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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.

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Speaker 2: I remember the first.

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Speaker 3: Time I took the twins to play school, as we

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Speaker 3: called it, because I couldn't bring myself to say daycare.

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Speaker 3: It was at a Lutheran church about half a mile

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Speaker 3: from our house, and I was so distraught. I would

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Speaker 3: sit in the parking lot and work in my car,

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Speaker 3: and occasionally would go up to the window and stare

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Speaker 3: in at the ladies taking care of the children.

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Speaker 2: Even when it would rain, I'd put a towel.

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Speaker 3: Over my head and look in at them so they

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Speaker 3: would know my eyes were on them. Luckily, it was

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Speaker 3: just two days a week, and they were there. Because

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Speaker 3: I was not only working two jobs, but trying to

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Speaker 3: finish your book.

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Speaker 2: I just couldn't do it all.

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about the mother and the father of

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Speaker 3: little Nikki, just one year old.

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Speaker 2: He's dead. He was taken to daycare. There were just

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Speaker 2: a few.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts in there so he would get practically undivided attention.

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Speaker 3: And now baby Niki Dominici is dead, wait for it,

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Speaker 3: because of an overdose a fentanel.

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Speaker 2: A baby goes to daycare so mom can work.

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Speaker 3: She didn't have the luxury of sitting in the car

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Speaker 3: in the mini van in the parking lot and looking

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Speaker 3: in whatever she felt like it. She'd have the luxury

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Speaker 3: of getting her children out after three hours like I did.

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Speaker 3: Her child had to be there all day so she

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Speaker 3: could work. And Oh, her baby is dead from a

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Speaker 3: fentanyl overdose, and what are we gonna do about it?

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation

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Speaker 3: and series x SEM one eleven.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at CBS.

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Speaker 4: Children's drawings and baby's blankets are all that's left inside

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Speaker 4: Divino Nino Daycare. This is where four babies were exposed

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Speaker 4: to fentanyl. One year old Nicholas Dominici died and three

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Speaker 4: other babies were hospitalized.

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Speaker 5: That little piece, that little coin about the less tunic

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Speaker 5: size of a fingerael a tenth of a size of

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Speaker 5: a finginael can kill an adult, so imagine what it

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Speaker 5: could do to a child.

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Speaker 6: Police allege one year old Nicholas Dominicici died after exposure

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Speaker 6: to drugs at Divigno Nino Daycare. Three other children were

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Speaker 6: also exposed, according to the NYPD. Police were called to

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Speaker 6: the daycare Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: The children.

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Speaker 6: According to detectives were unresponsive.

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Speaker 3: The children, some of them lying face up on top

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Speaker 3: of each other, completely passed out an overdose of fentanyl

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Speaker 3: at a daycare. And let me add a license to

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Speaker 3: daycare that had just been qualified, searched, revalidated a few

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Speaker 3: days before by the city. You were hearing the voice

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Speaker 3: of the mayor, Eric Adams. Just then our friends at

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Speaker 3: CBS two and Fox five who joining me an all

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Speaker 3: star panel to make sense of what we know right now.

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Speaker 3: But first I'm going to go to not only a colleague,

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Speaker 3: but a friend, an esteemed toxicologist, chief medical examiner, Bay County, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: author of American Narcan, thelac'sun and Heroin fenttyl associated Mortality.

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Speaker 3: You can find him a Recovery PATHWAYLLC dot com.

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Speaker 2: And this is a guy who has devoted.

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Speaker 3: Himself not only to his family and his faith, but

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Speaker 3: to helping people get past a fentyl addiction. He put

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Speaker 3: his money where his mouth is and actually has created

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Speaker 3: a mobile unit treating opioid addicts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what he's doing in his spare time. And

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Speaker 2: he literally wrote the book American Narcan.

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Speaker 3: So before I go to Dan Sarafin from News twelve,

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Speaker 3: Doctor William Roney.

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Speaker 2: Just explain to me what drug is.

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Speaker 3: So powerful that the amount of the tip of your fingernail,

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Speaker 3: a fingernail clipping, can kill you an adult, much less

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Speaker 7: We know that Sentinel is a synthetic opioid, and it

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Speaker 7: was manufactured original for high potency pain management like hospice

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Speaker 7: and cancer and end of life. But the fentanyl now

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Speaker 7: is crossing our borders and coming in from other countries

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Speaker 7: and it's replaced heroin the substance use disorder pipelines. People

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Speaker 7: have been exposed to different drugs over time, and right

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Speaker 7: now fentanyl is the drug that is sweeping across America

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Speaker 7: since about twenty fifteen or sixteen, so it's about eight

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Speaker 7: to San Francisco, Heroin's gone and they replaced it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, what is fentanyl.

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Speaker 3: I know you're saying an oprooid, but you said a

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Speaker 3: synthetic opioid.

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Speaker 2: That means what it's made in.

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Speaker 3: A lab and not out in a poppy field. What

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Speaker 7: Yes, the traditional heroin that we've seen for one hundred

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Speaker 7: years is distilled and extracted from poppy plants. It's a

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Speaker 7: natural substance. It's morphine, it's codeine, it's heroin, but Sentinel

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Speaker 7: is one hundred percent synthesized. But it sits in the

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Speaker 7: same part of the brain that heroin does and other

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Speaker 7: pain management pills. It tells the brain to stop breathing

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Speaker 7: at doses that cause overdose. These overdoses result because when

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Speaker 7: the concentration in the brain gets high enough, it shuts

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Speaker 7: off the drive to breathe, and that's where everybody dies.

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Speaker 7: And that's where you need to administer narcan.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know that you're a huge advocate of narcan.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, but who would think you would

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Speaker 3: need narcan at a daycare? Joining me right now in

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Speaker 3: addition to doctor Willilliam Moroney, Dan Saraphin anchor reporter News

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Speaker 3: twelve joining us. You can find him at News twelve

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Speaker 3: dot com. Dan, I just can't believe it because I

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Speaker 3: keep every time I'm looking at baby Nikki right now,

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Speaker 3: and every time I look at him, I put my

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Speaker 3: son or my daughter's face on top of his cute

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Speaker 3: little body and I think about them. And they were

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Speaker 3: eighteen months old when I had to finish that book.

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Speaker 2: I had a deadline and I had to have help.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't finish it and work the other two jobs,

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Speaker 3: and it killed me to be away from them. I

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Speaker 3: would actually cry in the parking lot, but I had

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Speaker 3: to do it. And here's a mom that has to

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Speaker 3: be away from her child all day long. Who would

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Speaker 3: a drug overdose as you mentioned.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and that daycare inspected just days before by the city,

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Speaker 8: and it was a surprise visit by the city to

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Speaker 8: looking good. We know Nicholas just started at that daycare.

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Speaker 8: It was just a few days in going to that

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Speaker 8: we are now kind of trying to piece things together

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Speaker 8: more yesterday though, obviously, Anthony.

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're talking about a little one year old boy,

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Speaker 3: baby Nikki Nicholas Dominici.

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Speaker 2: He's dead.

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Speaker 3: He had not even been at this new daycare for

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Speaker 3: even a week before this happened.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to this.

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Speaker 9: Three children were found unresponsive when police arrived Friday. A

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Speaker 9: fourth had already been picked up by their parents. Police

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Speaker 9: say the babies were playing, eating, and sleeping inside Divino

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Speaker 9: Ninho Daycare when they were exposed to ventanyl by akilo

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Speaker 9: stored right on their playmats. Pixe eleven News spoke with

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Speaker 9: the aunt of one of the children hurt. We also

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Speaker 9: the daycare at the time. She was very emotional, saying

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Speaker 9: that an agency referred her to the daycare so that

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Speaker 10: The children didn't wake up from naptime. First responders rushed

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Speaker 10: used to revive at least one of them. Doctors now

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Speaker 10: exposed to. Meanwhile, parents want answers from the daycare.

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Speaker 2: I guess they do now.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that three children found unresponsive when police arrived.

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Speaker 2: A fourth had already been picked up.

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Speaker 3: The babies were playing, eating, sleeping, when they were exposed

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Speaker 3: to fentanyl by a kilo stored on their playmat.

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Speaker 2: Well, you were just hearing our friends at Pigs eleven

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Speaker 11: In those critical moments, detectives say, the owner of this

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Speaker 11: daycare didn't call nine to one one right away. Instead,

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Speaker 11: she called other people first, and today detectives are still

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Speaker 11: trying to figure out where that husband is. Toddlers played

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Speaker 11: eight and slept inside the Divino Nino Daycare Friday while

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Speaker 11: around them a powerful substance under their mats and hidden

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Speaker 11: around the apartment based daycare and equipment used to produce drugs.

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Speaker 5: They dropped the babies off to a daycare cent too,

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Speaker 5: hoping that their children will be protected by the caregivers.

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Speaker 11: Three toddlers were found unresponsive after being exposed to what

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Speaker 11: detectives say was fentanyl, and in the critical moments after

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Speaker 11: the discovery, authority say Gray Mendes, the owner of the daycare,

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Speaker 11: called several others before nine to one one and caught

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Speaker 11: on video shortly after Mendez's husband and several others carrying

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy.

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Speaker 3: Did I hear that correctly? That the owner and operator

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Speaker 3: Gray it's a female, Gray Mendez, thirty six years old, did.

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Speaker 2: Not call nine one one.

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Speaker 3: Immediately, she calls several other people and neighbors observed people

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Speaker 2: A heroine press, a kilo a fentanyl? What happened?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, The federal complaint that was made public yesterday kind

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Speaker 8: of pointed to this timeline that starts at around two

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Speaker 8: thirty nine in the afternoon. That's when Mendes makes her first.

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Speaker 2: Call, hold on hold, on hold, on two thirty nine pm.

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Speaker 3: That would be waking up from nap time, because they

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Speaker 3: would have lunch whatever it was, and then of course

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Speaker 3: you get sleepy after lunch, so they would doze off, right,

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Speaker 3: So that would be about time for them to be

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Speaker 3: woken up from lunch, right.

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Speaker 8: You would imagine. So, yes, and that's when Mendes makes

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Speaker 8: the first call is to another employee whose identity we

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Speaker 8: brief phone call. Then after that first phone call, she

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Speaker 8: makes two more phone calls, neither of them to nine

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Speaker 8: the complaint, that's co Conspirator one, who we know is

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Speaker 8: Mendez's husband. That first call was unanswered, the second one

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Speaker 8: lasted just ten seconds, then finally the third, the fourth

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Speaker 8: phone call rather in this timeline is to nine one one.

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Speaker 8: That's at two forty pm, and then after that there's

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Speaker 8: several more calls to co Conspirator one. So it seems

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Speaker 8: like Mendes during this time when obviously these children are

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Speaker 8: in desperate need of help and attention medically, she's kind

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Speaker 8: these other phone calls she makes to co Conspirator one,

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Speaker 8: who then eventually would arrive at the daycare before medical personnel.

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Speaker 3: Joining me is a renowned trial lawyer, BANARDA Violona. She

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Speaker 3: worked in homicide. Now she is a veteran criminal defense attorney,

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Speaker 3: former prosecutor BERNARDA. Violona. You can find her at Violona

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Speaker 3: law dot com. Bernarda. They're all going down, every one

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Speaker 3: of them. This is textbook felony murder. Know this woman,

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Speaker 3: this thirty six year old Gray Mendez. I'm sure she

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Speaker 3: didn't mean to kill the children, but there's so many

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Speaker 3: theories to support a murder charge for instance, the abandoned

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Speaker 3: a malignant heart, which is, for instance, I get into

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Speaker 2: Then you've got a death.

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Speaker 3: Occurs in the commission of a felony, that being possession

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Speaker 12: Nancy, this is crazy. This case definitely shocks the conscious.

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Speaker 3: That's my language for abandoned and malignant heart, depraved indifference.

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Speaker 12: But aside from that, Nancy, guess what if you're talking

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Speaker 13: She's claiming she wasn't aware that there were narcotics inside

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Speaker 3: Well, hold on, Banana, I'm not saying anything that you're

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Speaker 3: But you know what to doctor William Moroney, when fit

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Speaker 3: So like if you even touch it, oh yeah, police

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Speaker 2: If you touch it. Correct, If you touch fentanyl.

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Speaker 7: Police on SCEEN have to double gloves. Everybody on scene

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Speaker 14: It's just reckless.

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Speaker 7: We had eight hundred and eighty four child in adolescent

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Before I can talk about policy, I have to understand

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Speaker 2: Okay. According to multiple sources.

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Speaker 3: Including The Evening Standard, a kilo a fentanyl was discovered

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Speaker 3: on top of playmats at this daycare center, where one

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Speaker 3: fentanyl overdose at twelve months old Okay, Bernarda the Alona

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Speaker 3: joining me veterans try a lawyer, sources say. Many sources

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Speaker 3: say the fentanyl was found on top of play mats

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Speaker 2: Other sources say the.

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Speaker 3: Pentanyl had been hidden in the closet that the children

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Speaker 3: a Heidi hole. How in the world are they going

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Speaker 12: Get out of this, Nancy, It doesn't matter where they

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Speaker 12: found it in that house and that daycare shouldn't have

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Speaker 13: They shouldn't have been their true in with and let's

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Speaker 13: not forget. So while she can claim I didn't know

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Speaker 13: more to this what we're in the shop and bats

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Speaker 13: these people are going down, whether it's under state law

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, there's one kind of fit at all the run.

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Speaker 3: She's exactly right. I want you to hear our cut

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Speaker 3: thirty four and thirty five from ABC seven at Picks eleven.

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Speaker 2: There's a cover up.

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Speaker 15: One baby died, three others were revived with the help

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Speaker 15: of NARCAN. Prosecutors ay Mendez deleted twenty thousand text messages

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Speaker 15: from her phone before her arrest, but they managed to

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Speaker 15: recover them. A manhunt continues for Mendez's husband and anyone

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Speaker 9: Prosecutors allege the defendants tried to cover up what happened

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Speaker 9: the owner of the daycare apparently called other people. The

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Speaker 2: The second two calls were to.

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Speaker 9: An individual who Mendez later identified as her husband. Also,

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Speaker 9: surveillance video shows Mendez's husband entered the daycare empty handed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she called them to come clean out the daycare

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Speaker 3: given it Narcan, which they carry with them on the ambulance.

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Speaker 2: That baby may have lived.

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Speaker 3: But know she called her husband and all of her

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Speaker 3: drug cohorts to come clean out the place before Cox

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 3: Think about your child at age twelve months Think about it.

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Speaker 3: Think about your grandchild, your niece, your nephew twelve months old,

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Speaker 3: overdose to Robert Crispin joining US a very well known

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Speaker 3: private investigator, former Federal Task Force officer for the United

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Speaker 3: and operator of Crispin Special Investigations. You can find them

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Speaker 3: online at Crispin Investigations dot com. Robert, how have they

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Speaker 3: managed to get back all of those texts?

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Speaker 2: Twenty thousand texts she deleted? And you can look on

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Speaker 14: So there's a program out there called Celbright, and Celbright's

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Speaker 14: a program. Now we can hook up a sell.

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Speaker 2: Wait am in it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Remember Robert, we talked about this during Alex Murdogg's double

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Speaker 2: And the FEDS came in and they used that.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the fanser, it may have been

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Speaker 2: They used exactly what you just actually know. I remember

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Speaker 3: They brought a guy that had been in the Secret

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Speaker 3: Service and he did all of these maneuvers on Alex

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Speaker 3: Murdogg's and the deceased Paul and Maggie's phones and recovered

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Speaker 3: all sorts of incriminating evidence, and they used exactly what

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Speaker 7: Could you spell it right?

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Speaker 2: I think I think it starts with ce L L

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Speaker 14: So that's that's a fantastic program for digital electronic devices,

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Speaker 14: and it allows the user who knows how to operate

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Speaker 14: will pull out all your deleted information kind of like

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Speaker 14: a computer. When you delete something, especially in your cell phone,

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Speaker 14: it's really not gone, Nancy. It's still there because there's

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Speaker 14: an actual hard drive that's inside your phone and it

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Speaker 14: going to fill up that disk. So when you plug

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Speaker 14: that into cell right, that's right there, right in front

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Speaker 3: Also found was a press that is a mechanical device.

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Speaker 2: So explain how that would have been used. You're the

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Speaker 14: So listen. So a kilo press makes a kilo cocaine,

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Speaker 14: which is two point two pounds or one thousand, one

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Speaker 14: that was going on there on two or three of

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Speaker 14: these presses. That is not small time. And I'm going

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Speaker 14: and it's getting distributed. So that's I think where your

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Speaker 14: federal nexus is coming in, because this is an organized

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Speaker 14: connected all the way backwards to probably China. And that's

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Speaker 14: probably why the FEDS are involved in. And you're going

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Speaker 14: down of the facts, You're going to find a lot

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Speaker 14: more people are getting indicted related to this death. You're

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Speaker 14: going to get the courier, You're going to get the

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Speaker 14: person who brought it across the border. It's just this

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Speaker 14: be part of something that was already going on.

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Speaker 2: You know, whether you're reminded me.

440
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Speaker 3: I remember my first triple homicide prosecution. I've talked about

441
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Speaker 3: it with you before, Jackie, because I remember the crime

442
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: scene photos.

443
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: There was literally blood running down the gutter.

444
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Speaker 3: Three young boys, teens were gunned down over drugged turf.

445
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Speaker 3: One of them was shot trying to jump over a

446
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Speaker 3: chain link fence and he hung there like a scarecrow

447
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: for I don't know how long, with his blood just

448
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 3: dripping down into that gutter, and I couldn't get the

449
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Speaker 3: Feds to help me to save my neck. You know

450
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Speaker 3: why I was prosecuting the murder of three young men.

451
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Speaker 2: They didn't care about the three young men. They wanted

452
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Speaker 2: the courier.

453
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: They wanted the supplier, and guess what about two years

454
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: later they got him and it was all tied into

455
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Speaker 3: your stomping grounds, Crispin, Miami and beyond. They didn't give

456
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Speaker 3: a flying fig about my little triple homicide case.

457
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: And that's all I cared about. And I went to

458
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Speaker 2: that federal courthouse and.

459
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Speaker 3: I got a hold of the guy that was allegedly

460
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Speaker 3: on the case, and I begged because they had info

461
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: about witnesses, and they would not give it to me.

462
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: Why because they thought it would jeopardize their drug investigation.

463
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: And no matter how much I jumped up and down

464
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Speaker 3: and cried and carried on, they wouldn't say a word.

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Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is that because.

466
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Speaker 3: Of this baby's death, they're going to get these purpse

467
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: Gray Mendez, her husband, whenever they can find him. The

468
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Speaker 3: other guys that were cleaning the place out and getting

469
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Speaker 3: rid of all the drugs, they're going to get them.

470
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Speaker 3: They're going to squeeze them until they give up the courier,

471
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Speaker 3: and the courier, hopefully if he's not killed, it's going

472
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Speaker 3: to give up who gave him the drugs, who gave

473
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Speaker 3: him the drugs, who gave him the drugs, until it

474
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Speaker 3: goes back probably to the cartel.

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Speaker 2: Right, is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 14: I'm telling you absolutely that's what's going to happen. And Nancy,

477
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 14: the government on so many different types of narcotic investigations

478
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 14: are up on a wire tap or a Title three

479
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 14: on so many different phones all over the country and

480
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Speaker 14: out of the country. There's so much more to all

481
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Speaker 14: of this that they may already have a recording talking

482
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Speaker 14: about a package that got delivered that went to these people.

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Speaker 7: It's my belief.

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Speaker 3: Man, Hey, you're having a sweet dream, because I've never

485
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Speaker 3: heard it being that easy, Which leads me to the

486
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Speaker 3: question if they did know that, How in the HG

487
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Speaker 3: double L did they let children go into a daycare

488
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Speaker 3: with fentanyl and drug presses around? Doctor Michelle Joy is

489
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Speaker 3: joining US forensic and clinical academic psychiatrist, author of Wait

490
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Speaker 3: for It and Illustrated History of the Insanity Defense and

491
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Speaker 3: See that's a good book. An Illustrated History of the

492
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Speaker 3: Insanity Defense.

493
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Speaker 2: I could go I could read that all night long.

494
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Speaker 3: And I Hint Hint for Christmas and Illustrated History of

495
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Speaker 3: the Insanity Defense. Wow, Doctor Michelle Joy, thank you for

496
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: being with us. How in the hay does a woman

497
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Speaker 3: I'm guessing she's probably a mother, I don't know that yet.

498
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Speaker 3: How do you have babies crawling around on your floor

499
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: and they're basically your props. You're using them as your

500
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Speaker 3: cover to cover up your drug operation. How do you

501
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: have babies crawling around on matts that are covered in fentanyl.

502
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Speaker 16: I'm so glad that you asked me uh to speak

503
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 16: because I was literally chomping at the bit to say

504
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Speaker 16: something right now. And that's because you know, just listening

505
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Speaker 16: to the extent of the network involved in this. I mean,

506
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Speaker 16: we're talking about weights, right, we're talking about number of

507
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Speaker 16: people involved, but then we're really talking about money, right,

508
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Speaker 16: So this isn't you know, this isn't Oh, there was

509
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Speaker 16: a little bit of fentanyl store there. Someone was trying

510
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Speaker 16: to make money, you know. Incidentally, her boyfriend was involved

511
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Speaker 16: in this thing. No, those children were intentionally there, used

512
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Speaker 16: placed as props, not as humans, not even as babies,

513
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Speaker 16: not as anything other than props. They didn't need money

514
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Speaker 16: from the daycare, right, This is not an operation that

515
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Speaker 16: she needed to survive. They were literally used to cover

516
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Speaker 16: up the drugs. This wasn't incidental, This wasn't coincidental. This

517
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Speaker 16: wasn't you know, even simultaneous. This was literally using babies

518
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Speaker 16: to protect a cash flow.

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Speaker 2: Who would do that? What kind of mind is that?

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Speaker 16: A sociopath? The psychopaths, the antisocial person. No matter how

521
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Speaker 16: we think about it, it is something as someone I'm

522
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 16: using similar language that is using a baby again, baby

523
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Speaker 16: as a tool rather than an infant, rather than a

524
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Speaker 16: human being, rather than someone that has a full future

525
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Speaker 16: ahead of them, right, there's no acknowledgment of the fact

526
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Speaker 16: that this is something other than a prop to be

527
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Speaker 16: used for furthering your own selfish.

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Speaker 1: Need crime stories. With me, it'sy Grace.

529
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about something, Anastasia. I'm coming right to you.

530
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Speaker 3: We've got a credible childcare professional with us. I'm just

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Speaker 3: thinking about something, doctor Michelle. Doctor Michelle Joy is joining us.

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Speaker 3: I remember on one case I prosecuted, I went into

533
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Speaker 3: I've been there many many times. On other cases, I

534
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Speaker 3: went into a woman's home and she was running a daycare.

535
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Speaker 2: And I went into her apartment. It was in a housing.

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Speaker 3: Project, and there were about eleven or twelve babies, little babies,

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Speaker 3: all just laying on the floor, directly on a piece

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Speaker 3: of carpet, and they were all quiet. And I was

539
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: amazed because John, David and Elsa were like all over everything.

540
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Speaker 3: Now this was before I had my children, so I didn't.

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Speaker 3: It just struck me as wrong. I didn't really know

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Speaker 3: any better. But a TV was going with some game

543
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Speaker 3: show or something on it, and I went into lady's kitchen.

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Speaker 3: She couldn't have been over twenty one. I went into

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Speaker 3: the lady's kitchen and sat down at the kitchen table

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Speaker 3: to talk to her.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I had to.

548
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Speaker 3: Sneak in, because nobody wants to be seen with the prosecutor.

549
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Speaker 2: I had to sneak in the back way.

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00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: I got in and got into the kitchen and I

551
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Speaker 3: was sitting there waiting for her, and I looked I

552
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Speaker 3: just felt movement.

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Speaker 2: I looked up.

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Speaker 3: There had to be eighty or ninety roaches, the little

555
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Speaker 3: bitty nasty ones going up and down the wall right

556
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Speaker 3: beside me. And I'm like, oh, and what can I do?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't scream, lady, you got roaches all over.

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Speaker 3: So I sit there and talked to her and finished

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Speaker 3: the interview and got up and left. I said, how

560
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Speaker 3: many babies are here? Are those all yours? And she said,

561
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Speaker 3: oh no, I run a daycare. I oh, okay, and left.

562
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I take care my rear end, which I

563
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Speaker 3: guess doctor Joyce she didn't think there was a problem

564
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Speaker 3: with roaches crawling all over the walls and those babies

565
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Speaker 3: laying right on the floor. I mean, I don't even

566
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Speaker 3: let my husband say curse word in front of the twins.

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Speaker 2: Or it's hell to pay h E double l he said.

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Speaker 3: One curse word when they were like three and I

569
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Speaker 3: had to make a big production of washing his mouth

570
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Speaker 3: out with soap, like putting a piece of soap on

571
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Speaker 3: his lips, and he's going, hey, gres grass crust, and.

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Speaker 2: Wait, what are people thinking? What kind of mind is that?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 16: It's It's like I said, it's not even just a

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Speaker 16: disregard in a censinnati. I don't mean legally rate. These

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Speaker 16: are just people that truly are not not having empathy,

577
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Speaker 16: not understanding another person, let alone. Again, I keep emphasizing

578
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Speaker 16: baby as something where they value of something where the future.

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Speaker 3: I guess, sees them as objects, not as little babies.

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Speaker 2: Guys with me right now.

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Speaker 3: Anastasia Germaine, President of Childcare Professional Services LLC, founder and

582
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Speaker 3: former operator of a licensed childcare center, and you can

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Speaker 3: find her at CHILDCAREPS dot com, Repeat CHILDCAREPS dot com. Anastasia,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for being with us. How in

585
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Speaker 3: the hey did this place just get in this right,

586
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Speaker 3: Dan Sarafin, They just got re licensed the week.

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Speaker 8: Before, inspected get by the city.

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Speaker 3: The one maybe dies and three others have ods.

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Speaker 17: This case is so disheartening. One thing that stands out

590
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Speaker 17: during the application process the daycare owner, would Miss Mendez

591
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Speaker 17: would have had to submit a diagram of all the

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Speaker 17: rooms of the house, including those especially those used for

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Speaker 17: daycare purposes. So the questions I would have is was

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Speaker 17: the Office of Children and Family Services made aware at

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Speaker 17: the time of licensing or thereafter that a room was

596
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Speaker 17: being rented? Was this individual renting the room mister Brido.

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Speaker 17: Was he subjected to the same background and reference checks

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Speaker 17: that the owner and childcare staff were subjected to? Was

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Speaker 17: he passing through rooms used for the daycare center? Whitters

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Speaker 17: that childcare centers have to sign in and out, they

601
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Speaker 17: have to put the date in time?

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Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, Hold on with me as Anna Station, Germaine. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the last thing I want with my chill ldren in

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Speaker 3: a daycare is to have some male who's no offense

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Speaker 3: men on the panel, but it's usually a man that

606
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Speaker 3: sexually molests children. The last thing I want is some

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Speaker 3: guy I don't even know about trumping through in and

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Speaker 3: out with my babies.

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Speaker 17: There no exactly and where the parents even aware that

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Speaker 17: there was a room being rented? Did mister Brito have

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Speaker 17: to adhere to any of these state regulations or center policies?

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Speaker 17: And I think It's also worth noting that the New

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Speaker 17: York Health Commissioner, doctor Ashwin Vossen, had said that at

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Speaker 17: the time of the incident, inspectors were not trained in

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Speaker 17: what to look for in terms of fentanyl, but that

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Speaker 17: maybe they should be. I don't think that's maybe. I

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Speaker 17: think that's a definite.

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Speaker 2: That is awful.

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Speaker 3: We sent out inspectors, but they didn't know what to

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Speaker 3: do really exactly.

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Speaker 17: If they saw the press, if they saw the fedanel,

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Speaker 17: what they know? What they're looking at.

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Speaker 3: Guys, I'm listening to Anastasia Germaine, President of Childcare Professional

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Speaker 3: Services LLC at childcareps dot com. I want you to

625
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Speaker 3: take a listen to our cut for our friends at

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Speaker 3: CBS two.

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Speaker 4: Through tears, Dominici's parents told us their youngest son had

628
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Speaker 4: only been at the daycare a week since his death.

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Speaker 4: The NYPD says they found three kilo presses used to

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Speaker 4: package narcotics in the daycare, as well as a kilo

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Speaker 4: of fentanyl.

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Speaker 18: It was laid underneath a matt when his children had

633
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Speaker 18: been sleeping early.

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Speaker 4: Over the weekend. Police arrested the daycare owner, Gray Mendez,

635
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Speaker 4: and her husband's cousin, Carlisto Savito, Brito, who was renting

636
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Speaker 4: a room inside the home based childcare center. Neither had

637
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Speaker 4: any priors. They're now facing murder and drug charges.

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Speaker 3: Doctor William Maroney joining me, renowned toat psychologist, Doctor Moroney.

639
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Speaker 3: Isn't it true that if the EMTs had arrived earlier

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Speaker 3: and this little baby even had a pulse, I mean,

641
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Speaker 3: apparently they immediately suspected fentnol. I don't know why what

642
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Speaker 3: there was that they saw that the inspectors didn't see.

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Speaker 3: They knew immediately that there was a fentyl od If

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Speaker 3: they had gotten there in time, Doctor Moroney, and the

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Speaker 3: child was still breathing, there's a very strong possibility that

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Speaker 3: baby could have been saved with narcnlight.

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Speaker 7: The other babies were unquestionably. When those people are trained

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Speaker 7: walk in, they look and they see, They sweep the mouth,

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Speaker 7: they check the pulse. They hear for breathing or no

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Speaker 7: breathing or shallow breathing, and sentinels at the top of

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Speaker 7: the list. If the mouth is clear and there's no choking,

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Speaker 7: if there's no food around, you see pin point pupils.

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Speaker 7: Pinpoint pupils in fentanyl exposure, possibly gurgling a limp body

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Speaker 7: and cold skin with blue lips and blue nails. You

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Speaker 7: see that. The first thing you say is narcotic overdose,

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Speaker 7: and you get that sentinel there right away. It comes

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Speaker 7: with the police, It comes with the fire, It comes

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Speaker 7: with the EMTs. Every person that would have been a

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Speaker 7: first responder would have had narcin every single one that

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Speaker 7: would have walked through that door. They just weren't called

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Speaker 7: soon enough.

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Speaker 3: You're never gonna believe who the first responders were.

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Speaker 2: Take a listener, our cut thirty Fox five.

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Speaker 19: Armed with a search warrant, NYPD detectives and DEA agents

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Speaker 19: made a startling discovery there.

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Speaker 18: We just called it a kilogram of fentanyl in an

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Speaker 18: area that was used to give the children naps. It

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Speaker 18: was laid underneath a matt where the children had been

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Speaker 18: sleeping earlier.

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Speaker 19: DEA agents were among the first responders to the Divino

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Speaker 19: Nino daycare Center, which was actually inside Mendez's apartment. Authority

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Speaker 19: say they also found three kilo presses in the place.

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Speaker 3: Back to Dan Sarafin joining us from News twelve, Dan

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Speaker 3: every saying that Robert Crispin said about how this place

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Speaker 3: had likely been under surveillance has to be true because

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Speaker 3: they are.

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Speaker 2: Among the first responders.

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Speaker 3: Was the DEA, right, And I mean when my mom fell,

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Speaker 3: when my mom fail in the shower not long ago

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Speaker 3: and we called nine one one, the DEA.

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Speaker 2: Didn't show up.

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Speaker 8: And in that criminal complaint that was released yesterday kind

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Speaker 8: kind of tells that story also of surveillance and even

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Speaker 8: mentioning surveillance footage. As you mentioned before, that co conspirator

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Speaker 8: one who we know is Gray Mendez, his husband. After

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Speaker 8: that phone call that she made, one of the first

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Speaker 8: phone calls she made before nine to one one to him,

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Speaker 8: he shows up at that daycare before first responders do,

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Speaker 8: empty handed, and that complaint said surveillance footage shows him

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Speaker 8: walking in the front door empty handed and then walking

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Speaker 8: out the back door just two minutes later with those

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Speaker 8: two huge bags that I think you mentioned earlier that

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Speaker 8: they said carrying two shopping bags waited with contents. We

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Speaker 8: can probably imagine what's inside of those bags. So video

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Speaker 8: obviously the law enforcement operation into the investigation, talking to

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Speaker 8: people around that area. Yeah, this was something that they

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Speaker 8: seem to be right on top of from the minute

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Speaker 8: that this happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're all going to hell, but I want them

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Speaker 3: to have a nice long life. Without parole, behind bars,

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Speaker 3: as a little pit stop to a burning eternity, we

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Speaker 3: wait as justice unfolds.

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Speaker 2: Good las night,