WEBVTT - Season Reunion | The Conversations That Stayed With Us 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.600 Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:11.200 christ and this is the keeping positive guys. We did it. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.600 Season eleven is officially wrapped, crazy. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:18.480 And now we're. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.720 Sitting here trying to figure out how to recap it all, 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.639 which was harder than producing this season andself. 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.680 Actually, and you did a. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:39.640 Great job with that, Shelly, Yes, for you know, so good. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.680 Nobody was it was. I feel like it was really 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.040 tough because originally I wanted you like a reunion style recap, 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:46.880 and then I was like, no, we need to sit down, 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.519 we need to talk about It was so many clips 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.320 and I realized I just want to talk about our 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:51.960 favorite moments. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:53.440 Way. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.400 Yeah. But then when I watch everything back, I realized 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.360 that I was picking up new things from every conversation. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.840 Right, yeah, that's production though. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.880 You know we're present during the filming days and yeah, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.039 you know, we're just in a different mode. But then 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.280 a lot of times you get to thinking about patterns 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.240 of like, okay, what can we change, what can we do? 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.320 And then the guest conversation. Some people are coming in 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.720 for deeper conversations, some people are coming for hearings, some 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.240 people are coming for purpose. You know, it's just it's 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.120 a great space and I feel like, you know, you 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:28.959 embodied that the. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.640 Whole sees man. I appreciate that, Thank you, but you're 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.720 absolutely right. You know. Rewatching made me realize that people 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.640 come in for one thing, but then the conversation takes 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.960 a turn into something way bigger than I think any 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.559 of us could imagine. I always look behind the camera 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.880 and I'll see a Shina's hand like, and I was like, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.560 the church is saying amen, Shelley nodding. Yeah. So I 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.600 feel like to see it in real time, even though 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.600 we're present, to see the impact that the conversations are 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.320 having when they may just come in for a book, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.520 or come in to talk about the movie they're doing, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.320 or just their journey, to see how it resonates what 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.880 it's all in real time is really cool. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.680 Yeah, And I think that's why they resonate, because it's 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.440 a reminder that they are human just like us and 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.360 we all have similar experiences. And I think that's why 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.119 people come to keep a politicsty exactly. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:16.440 You know. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.720 I love that our guests they show up in more 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.640 ways than we expected them to, and looking back, I 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.880 realized that we're not just documenting conversations. We're literally documenting 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.680 people in the middle of their becoming, you know, and 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.720 I think that's what made the season so special, you know. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.560 So let's check out some clips. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.480 When it comes to knowing, like when God gives you 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.160 something and you know it even when people around you 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.480 don't get it. People you love, trust and respect. That's 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.960 why you got to cultivate that. Yes, because there's something 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.600 that God sees that he's revealing to you that if 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.200 you honor it against the naysayers, it's gonna set you 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:54.960 up for success. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.639 It will not always be easy, but it also will 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.040 not always be hard. That is what has been foundationally 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.560 true for me. Yeah, and I'm always so clear that 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.000 my heart has a timeline, but my good is for 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.760 like it is always her current is always running, and 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.920 so there are moments when those trying days feel louder 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:23.480 than the good days. But the good is omnipresent. If 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.799 we can shift our mindsets to believe that the goodness 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:28.640 is omnipresent. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:33.760 We've never given up on each other. At the same time, relationships, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:39.440 the best of relationships, aren't perfect relationships. Sometimes you're here 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.280 and sometimes you're here, and it may all be in 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.320 the same day, but that friendship. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.200 Sometimes the same hour. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.240 I was dating selfishly. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.440 I wasn't dating like I had a kid, Like I 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.480 was dating based off of how you made me feel. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.320 I wasn't even worried about, like whether they were good 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.680 with kids or not, whether they could have a discussion 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.840 with a kid, whether they could you know, get to 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.200 know my child or not. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.240 If you were. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.840 Doing something to make me feel good, you know, whether 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.440 that was sex, just conversation because I didn't like to 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.480 be alone. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.480 Whatever it was. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.520 If I felt like you were doing something for me, fine, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.080 you were good in my book, and. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:27.360 That's how I am. I'm like that too. It's just 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:32.240 like I do. It's people that I do genuinely miss Yeah, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.320 like I missed them. I missed the relationship we had. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:44.359 I missed them. But I'm so cool. So yo, I 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:50.240 am so, But I am so cool, And it's fine, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.840 Like yo, I wish you the best. I wish you 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.080 the best, but I am so. I am so. I'm 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.400 a thousand percent cool cool with you. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.880 Think about the stuff on you had your first Nokia 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.680 properly ye with the little snake, and think about the 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.760 iPhone you have probably right now. Imagine if you went 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.720 from that phone to the iPhone with nothing in between. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.120 Wow. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.679 Yeah, and that's what happens in marriage. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:14.440 Yeah. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.360 You gotta every phone, every update, you gotta learn this 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.120 new and just iPhone enough headphone jackal, dang, I ain't 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.400 got that. Now I gotta get air pods and now 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.479 I gotta charge this Now this thing used to not 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.080 be there from the Nokia Snake when we started dating 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.480 to the iPhone seventeen. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:29.240 Yeah. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.480 If I wasn't up to date on every and think 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.080 about how little the changes feel at the time, it's 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.000 just like, oh, dang, man, Yeah. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:36.840 I used to be with you. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.840 We used to take pictures. They used to be grainy 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.920 all that stuff. Now you can shoot. There's a new 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.240 app you can do a shot recording. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.039 I just saw that black on too, man. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.680 I saw that that didn't exist. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.520 Yeah, two weeks ago. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.159 That was so good. You guys. You know what's really funny. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.040 I don't remember the order in which these conversations happened, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.200 but I remember how they made me feel. Yeah. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.960 No, that's really like I don't remember like the day, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.320 the time, any of that, but I know. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.880 Like, oh boom, that was a back there. We'd be 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:06.240 back there. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:11.640 Like yeah, like all the Yeah, it's. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.480 Been several film of days when I'm like, oh man, okay, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.680 that was good. But then like days later it's like, 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.599 oh it hit me in my life or hit me somewhere, 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.719 and I'm like wow, yeah, yeah. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:24.160 I agree. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.880 And a lot of the conversations that we have or 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.919 the interviews that we have, they don't stop when we 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.239 all cut. They keep going and we keep talking and 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.279 it stays with us. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.320 No, for sure. I want to ask you guys something 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.760 out of all the conversations and interviews we had this season, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.600 what is the one moment that sticks out to you 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:43.720 the most? 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:44.159 I know? 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.760 For me, Tiffany willis with the on your narrative, which 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.960 she said like she's the window as her refrigerator, and 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:50.800 like it's her the window. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.280 Still it is her refrigerator. They keep her baby's bottle. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.599 Worn, and her whole conversation she was not a victim, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.240 which anyone in that situation could have just taken it 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.400 and made them like your parents get you out when 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.000 you was fourteen, pregnant all these things, but she just 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.520 like really showed so much gratitude throughout her whole story, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.880 So that really resonated with me, and that was one 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.800 of our earlier shows, so I like the tone that 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.640 it said. But even in my own life, it was 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.040 things can be worse, but things can also get better. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.040 It's your perspective exactly. I love that, and I love 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.520 that she wasn't asking anyone to feel sorry for her. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.560 She was honored where she came from and at a 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.960 very young age too, And to see who she's become 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.320 today is Yeah. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.440 I remember me and Shelley being on a production pre 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.080 production call with her and just listen to her story 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.840 and just listen to her like bio and just like 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.400 hold on, this is going to be something. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.160 And then we didn't get everything on a. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.000 Pre pro call. But I loved that episode too, But 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:52.760 my favorite was tore pt Listen said. He challenged the 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.320 conversation like we spent a lot of time, you know, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.600 thinking about what lane were supposed to stay in, and 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.440 he completely challenged that. Like he talked about the purpose 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:07.880 being something that follows you, you know, something that's not 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:09.440 something that's attached to a job. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.760 That really resonated with me as a man. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.360 I think it resonated with a lot of the Sweeties 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.920 and everyone who watches online because like you said purpose 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:24.080 isn't just career based, and I think he gave all 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:29.000 of us who have many career aspirations or many skill 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.320 sets the permission to chase them all and not stay 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.959 stuck in a box. And I know you shouldn't testify 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.800 on my street as. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.600 Past and Darius would say. I felt that personally because 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.400 with everything I have going on with acting, rs, the 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:50.520 merch producing everything, singing, singing, of the things that I've 0:08:50.600 --> 0:09:01.360 questioned myself, am I I've questioned myself if I'm doing 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.959 too much sometimes, you know, And I believe this conversation 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:09.400 definitely reminded me that purpose is not always linear. You know, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.520 It's gonna come layered and you just got to go 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.240 with the flow and go For me, I always go 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.760 with where I am and what really resonates with me 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.880 in that season. I don't try to force and I 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.600 love purpose follows you. I think a lot of people 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.560 get lost in chasing purpose, but like knowing that when 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.040 you are walking in it, it's what's following behind you 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:32.160 is what you're leaving, you know. Yeah, you know conversation 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.200 I felt that myself. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.959 I think the sweeties also really enjoyed Karrisha, Yes, there 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.520 was a lot of conversation going into Kresha and having 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.280 her on the show we had on the live show 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.599 at the Black Effec Podcast Festival, and there was a 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.680 lot of conversation about you know, what you guys would 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.040 talk about, and even she was a little concerned about 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.079 how she fit into the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:01.800 But I think one thing that you have coin is 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.000 that no one's too far from God. And even in 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.240 her conversation about her journey, her career journey as a 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:13.240 podcaster and a business owner, her life journey, she also 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:17.400 reflected on her relationship with God, and I think that 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.120 that is also a testament of you know, everyone has 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.080 their own faith walk and no one is too far 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.760 from God. And I think our sweeties took a lot 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.400 from from her conversation. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.360 Yeah, I love that. I really enjoyed our conversation. I 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.480 remember she walked up to me backstage and she was like, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.040 I am so nervous because one thing I know is 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.400 that the Sweeties are going to support whoever we're talking to, 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.600 and she felt that they were talking right back to her, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.920 you know, and it made her feel really good. Yeah. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.000 Yeah, I think people got to see a version of 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.120 her that you don't always see publicly, and I think 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.000 that's something that we all appreciate about this particular show 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.040 is like you get a version of of the guests 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.640 that you don't typically see in any other interview. It 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.400 feels like a safe space that feels like home. And 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.640 I think we got that with Karsia. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.040 Yeah, for sure, definitely. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.040 That's like just too. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.959 It just came in with one conversation playing somewhere along 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.040 the way, you know. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.600 Like she started feeling like I started tears. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.640 We was pulling out clean next or whatnot, but about 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.400 explaining why instead of like her parenting from fear, you know, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.840 like it's always uh. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.560 The rule of the issue or the root of somewhere. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.000 So you know, I think that her book really like 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.400 took it to a place, and I think you the 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.040 conversation sitting on that couch, you know, you kind of 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.040 brought her somewhere else, like she felt safer. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:40.840 Sure. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.000 Yeah, And these interviews they just like take a life 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.960 of their own. When people come in here, it's not 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.000 even where they think they're going to do. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.000 So I love that too. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.760 It's like you come in here talking about one thing 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.280 and then actually you unveil a whole bunch of other. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.640 Stuff that's real, like think about Toy and Red. When 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.160 they came on, I was like, Okay, this is gonna 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.880 be an hour long conversation about marriage. You know what 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.640 you deal with in that union. And I love thinking 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:04.600 about peace. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.240 And healing and connection. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.800 Yeah, like when when Rid said we were so quick 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.760 to correct instead of connect, it took me to listen. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.719 I took that with me, not just in relationship but 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.160 in business, you know. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.160 And read being super honest and transparent about his journey 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.880 and uh therapy. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:33.000 Yes, I was to hear and then how it got 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.680 her in the therapy, and I think it was good 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.040 to kind of hear her say how she would had 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.120 to step back even in this age, and stop trying 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.160 to please people. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.640 And do all these things for people. So it was 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:44.960 it was refreshing. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.640 Like you said, we thought we weld just hear about 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.960 their marriage, but we're also hearing about them still being 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.800 cultivated and still growing in their marriage. So we saw 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.720 them be a union but also not losing themselves contilue 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:55.480 to find themselves. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.520 So that was a chef's pie. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.240 I love that conversation exactly, and I think that's while 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.560 I love this season so much. They didn't give us 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.960 surface level of conversations. They really left us with pieces 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.440 of them, you know, and showed us themselves, and those 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.120 are the moments that stay with us for sure. Let's 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:12.760 take a look at that. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.040 The window seals refrigerator was because I didn't have a refrigerator. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.880 I couldn't afford one. I was just happy not to 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.480 be homeless anymore, and so being able to put my 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.280 son's milk on a window seal just to keep it 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.400 cold to me. Other people probably thought it was poverty. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.360 For me, it was actually progress. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:35.160 The challenging part about being in a cocoon is that 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:40.840 you don't know it. And sometimes I imagine, like the caterpillar. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.240 I don't know if caterpillars have caterpillar school right where 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.640 there's a nice little whiteboard in the background. I listen, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.800 you getting ready to go through something, right, It's gonna 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.520 be real dark, You're gonna be real disoriented. In fact, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:01.400 your whole sense of who you were, whole sense of identity, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.840 how you move about, how you navigate, how you get around, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.439 all of that is going to come to a complete 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.400 stop and you're going to be in darkness and then 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.880 you're actually going to turn into this little mush. But 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:19.400 when it's all over, when it's all over, you're going 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.400 to become something that you couldn't have even fathom becoming. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:24.479 You didn't have the capacity. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.240 So if the cocoon could talk, that's what the cocoon 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.400 could tell you. And we find ourselves in cocoons. It's 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.880 when God knows that we have to become something else, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:39.400 that the version of who we are right now does 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:45.040 not match the calling, the purpose, the environment, the destiny 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:46.680 that you're assigned to. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.280 Learning to come together and operate as one. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.760 It's work, but I think one of the biggest things 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.040 with us, and I think both of us had kind 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.800 of an issue with it that we all got better 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.920 with it was and it's crazy. I saw it today 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:09.160 when I was researching. We were so quick to correct 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:16.680 each other instead of focusing on connecting like it was 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:21.360 all like for me, I speak for me. I'm real 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.840 big on if I don't understand something, I debate with 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.800 you because I want you to show me where you're 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.200 coming from. You know what, I want you to show 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.520 me where you're coming from. But over the years, with 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.920 therapy and I get it from. I used to have 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.640 a group of very successful guys and we always talked 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:44.400 and it's always debates, debates, and we called the iron 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.200 sharpening on iron, like we're debating about this, we're debating 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.000 about this, but you're showing me. You're showing me where 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.440 you're coming from, and you're understanding and you're articulating it. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.680 And then over with therapy, I had to figure out 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.880 what my people, with my village and stuff like that. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.320 It's not necessarily always good because they they're not gonna 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:12.920 get it. And instead of debating and instead of trying 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.400 to correct, all right, you got it, how can we 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.800 connect and how can we do that? And I think 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.520 that was one of the things that we fought with 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.480 and got better over the years. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.560 Every time somebody tell me I can't do something, I 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.160 do it. I'm like one of God's favorite. Like when 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.720 they say no, he'd be like in another one, in 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.960 another one. Now you're in BMF. Now you're doing this. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.520 Now you're doing that. So I think that it's like 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.200 I don't even look at it no more. It's just 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.120 like my God got me. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.000 God, It's like watch this, yes, watch this. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.120 Even when I didn't know how to pray right, because 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.160 my mom has always done that for us, you know, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.800 her kids, is what I mean by us, Like, but 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.240 she she didn't teach just how to pray. I just 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.359 had to get that one day. Even when I didn't 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.920 know how to, always knew that I could talk to God. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.920 That's one thing that she did always tell us talk 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.040 to him. Your prayer does not have to be perfect. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:14.840 You don't have to. There's no script. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.040 You don't have to get it right. He's not looking 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.160 for you to come to him perfectly. If you stumble 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.399 over your words, it's okay. You know, you keep talking, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.080 he hears you. That's how. That's how I did. Or 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.840 I would go and I don't care where I was. 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.919 I would be in my car, I would go. And 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.360 if I was because even if I was at work 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.400 like McDonald's, I go in the bathroom and talk to God, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.399 I would. I would talk to him anywhere where I 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.080 would be alone and by myself, like off to a corner. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.239 That's honestly, really how I got through it. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.200 And you know, I feel like that's cliche because people 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:46.960 say it, but like, no, that's that's real. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:48.760 It's like I would really talk. 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.439 To him and then in talking to him and going 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.480 to him because there was nothing that I would never 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.720 take to him. Yeah, he showed me how to pray 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.840 God had told me, taught me how to talk to 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.960 him in a way where I can. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:02.679 Teach my children. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.600 I've been going to therapyt. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.080 Wow, that's amazing. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.960 He kind of got me into because at first, like 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.760 very cliche. I need a therapist, so I want to 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.080 see my whatever. But he's been doing it since I 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:15.399 met her. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.120 Yeah, I go because, like you just spoke on earlier, 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.960 I don't tell my friends and family stuff, especially about 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.879 my relationship, like I don't. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:24.480 I don't. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.840 I don't do that. Like my friends can't tell you. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.360 Not one of my friends can tell you our deepest 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.480 problem or anything like that surface level, like they know 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.159 what I'm going through a business, family or whatever. But 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.760 if it's dealing with me and my wife, they can't 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.760 tell They can't tell you what. They can't tell you that. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.000 So what I do. I go to therapy and I 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.080 have an unbiased voice that I can talk to and 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.720 unload and like some therapy sessions, I kid you not, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.720 some therapy sessions. My therapy is to say one say 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:09.760 two words, go and then the last word, stop and between, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.480 and all I do is talk. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.920 You know what gets me is that none of these 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.520 moments were for uced. Nobody came in trying to get 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.280 a viral moment. They were just honest. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.480 Yeah. I think that's why people connected with them so 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:27.440 much and love kept so much, because vulnerability recognize its vulnerability, 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.240 and people know when something is real, that's real. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:35.159 Keep that one, I want to. 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.480 But you know what's so funny how we laugh here. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:46.120 We laugh even when it gets deep. It's always those 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.680 laughing moments. And I just love that about to keep 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.159 it positive, sweetie. It's like, we get deep, but we 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.840 also gonna have us a good, good laugh, good church. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:55.680 We have church in here. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.800 We get everything when you come here. Ran around the road, 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.800 praise laps, Okay. You know people always tell us how 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.119 comfortable it feels to sit on this set, to be 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.080