WEBVTT - Chapter 6 – The Red Line

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Trim and this is Saigon, the story

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<v Speaker 1>of my family and of the country that shaped us.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States will not stand by and allow any.

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<v Speaker 3>Power, however, break take over another time.

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<v Speaker 4>Orange has brought only confusion and.

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<v Speaker 5>Bewill money'll break it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Rand a bad very baby sounded. There can be no

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<v Speaker 4>peace without justice, and that can be no justice without peace.

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<v Speaker 6>Chapter six.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably be a whole out of commencing descent over target.

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<v Speaker 1>In two minutes in nineteen sixty four, two American Navy

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<v Speaker 1>ships in the Gulf of Tonkin were apparently attacked by

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<v Speaker 1>Communist missiles. Whether they actually were or not has been

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<v Speaker 1>debated ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>Calling me down to five thousand feet.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was all that President Johnson needed to declare

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<v Speaker 1>open war on North Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait for God.

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<v Speaker 6>Very Christmas handling Operation Rolling Thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>The relentless bombing of the North would continue for years. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>life carried on in Saigon much as before. The true

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<v Speaker 1>horrors of war had yet to reach the southern capital.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, yes, I'm looking for Colonel Michael Tench Joseph Sherman.

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<v Speaker 3>I have an appointment.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, it's not colonel anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, General, No, we don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Have ranks in CIA.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, we don't even acknowledge me our CIA.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh but I'm told you.

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<v Speaker 4>To go way back.

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<v Speaker 3>We do.

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<v Speaker 4>We do through there, mister Sherman. He's expecting you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Mike, Joseph, come in, come in. Hey, so

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<v Speaker 3>good to see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael tench had been one of the military advisors America

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<v Speaker 1>had sent to Vietnam in nineteen forty five. He and

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph had spent three months together training Ho Chiman's soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>to fight the Japanese.

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<v Speaker 4>What have you been up to.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still working for Associated Press.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I'm with the Joint Public Affairs Office now.

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<v Speaker 3>They needed a press secretary and I needed to change

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<v Speaker 3>the pace. So here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope they're taking good care of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't complain. I have a colonial residence and a housekeeper,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, per diems, the whole deal yourself. When I

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<v Speaker 3>heard you were back in Saigon, I thought, well, he's

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<v Speaker 3>keeping a low profile.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to I'm afraid that's the nature of my.

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<v Speaker 3>New job CIA Chief of Stations. Oh so yeah, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well it might become a poison chalice, but we'll

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<v Speaker 7>see how we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink loved one. It's no surprise someone like you guessed

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<v Speaker 2>the truth, but I'd rather not advertise it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I understand if asked. You're an embassy attache.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How's a family your boy, Gary, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Gary, he's here, in fact, on his third tour

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<v Speaker 3>of duty with the eleventh Infantry Brigade.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the wife's okay, yeah, yeah, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 7>Here you go, oh good health cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Mike, of course there's my daughter, the one I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote to.

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<v Speaker 2>You about trying to land too yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I'm sorry if it sounded pushy, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just all no, no.

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<v Speaker 7>If old friends can't ask each other for help, the

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<v Speaker 7>world's become a very sad place.

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<v Speaker 2>I get the frustration.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>When did Gary see her?

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen sixty three? I'm patrolling the Mekong Delta.

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<v Speaker 7>And the last time you saw was nineteen fifty six.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 7>Then, your son saw fleeting Lee in sixty three, and

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<v Speaker 7>now five years later, you've still got no idea where

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<v Speaker 7>she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not a clue, which is why I wondered if

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<v Speaker 3>the CIA knew anything.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, what we do know is She's one of the

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<v Speaker 7>Viet Cong's most effective fighters, responsible for planning dozens of attacks,

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<v Speaker 7>and she's good and highly regarded. We've never been able

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<v Speaker 7>to infiltrate any of her teams. They come out of

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<v Speaker 7>nowhere and then vanish before we have time to respond.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what we know. And now for the last few months,

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<v Speaker 7>nothing feels like someone heard that we really wanted to

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<v Speaker 7>find her and told.

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<v Speaker 2>Her to keep her head down.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a move.

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<v Speaker 7>Not in the office here, there's been no breach of

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<v Speaker 7>operational security, but we've got assets all over the place

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<v Speaker 7>in Saigon, and well, frankly, i'd be surprised if at

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<v Speaker 7>least one or two of them aren't double agents for

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<v Speaker 7>the viet Cong. We arrest all the ones we find,

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<v Speaker 7>but you arrest one and two more take their place. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 7>we both want to find her, Joseph, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you know if we get a tip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The Ted holiday next week.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know goes home right.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly, so nothing will happen till after that at the earliest.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, thanks, Mike, I appreciate the favor.

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<v Speaker 2>No problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually know, as it happens, I have a favor to

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<v Speaker 7>ask in return.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Go for a drive. I'll tell you on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Where are we going?

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<v Speaker 7>Secret detention facility inside the US military prison Okay, not

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<v Speaker 7>far right, actually away from prying years. There is something

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<v Speaker 7>else you should know about your daughter. What she got married.

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<v Speaker 7>It's another Viet Con fighter. Oh, they had a daughter

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<v Speaker 7>in fifty eight. She'd be about nine or ten now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh h he.

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<v Speaker 7>Got killed on the Cambodian border a few years back.

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<v Speaker 7>The daughter is still alive though somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, what what's her name?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, just between us.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, yeah, yeah, of course, General.

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<v Speaker 2>Id Michael Tench.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, mister Tan.

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<v Speaker 7>There's one prisoner here who hasn't said a word since

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<v Speaker 7>he was captured a couple of years back.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was high up.

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<v Speaker 7>In the pecking order with Ho Chi Minh, so he

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<v Speaker 7>knows a lot about the whole via cong structure and strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to get him to tell us.

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<v Speaker 7>Physical pain was never going to make him talk, though,

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<v Speaker 7>so we started trying psychological pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>He kept in a white.

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<v Speaker 7>Room alone, isolated the continual light.

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<v Speaker 2>It's here this way.

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<v Speaker 7>I only set eyes on him A couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 7>ago when I first started this job, and when I

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<v Speaker 7>looked at it, I was sure I'd seen him somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I remembered when we were in the jungle

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<v Speaker 7>together training Ho Chi Min's soldiers. A patrol came back

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<v Speaker 7>on the last day, and you knew the leader. It'd

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<v Speaker 7>been someone you'd known in Saigon years earlier. No, and

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<v Speaker 7>weird detail. He doesn't have any balls cut them off

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<v Speaker 7>years ago, apparently, so nothing could distract him from the cause.

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<v Speaker 3>Transvend Kim, that's him.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's him, and if it is, we have

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<v Speaker 7>to see if.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll talk to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Corporal Sir, can you let mister Sherman in?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Sir, mister Sherman, when I open the door, just

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<v Speaker 4>take one step forward and stay behind the red line

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<v Speaker 4>at all times.

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<v Speaker 9>Ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Joseph stepped inside. The thin red line was at

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<v Speaker 1>his feet, but the rest of the walls, ceiling, floor

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<v Speaker 1>were all bright white, and sitting motionless on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>was a thin figure with a long, wispy beard.

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<v Speaker 3>Kim, Kim, it's me Joseph, your old friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been twelve long years since Land's funeral procession,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was no mistaking the piercing eyes and familiar

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<v Speaker 1>face in front of him.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you, my friend? The last time we met,

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about betrayal and loyalty, and given your

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<v Speaker 3>contempt for those who betray their friends and comrades, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing I've got no chance of getting you to

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<v Speaker 3>betray yours. But yeah, you know, Kimble, one thing you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't give me a chance to say. Back then. I

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<v Speaker 3>did talk to Paul about your sister land and me,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was glad that I made her happy because

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<v Speaker 3>he knew he hadn't and couldn't. So what you saw

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<v Speaker 3>is betrayal. He respected his honesty. Yeah, being open about

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<v Speaker 3>our passions and not denying them is not betrayal, Kim. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a betrayal. Can we talk about your passions, Kim?

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<v Speaker 3>My passion.

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<v Speaker 4>Is to see Vietnam free a fall foreign occupation.

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph, Yes, yes, But all Ho Chi Minh has to

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<v Speaker 3>do is agree to elections a democratic government, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'd go.

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<v Speaker 4>He would be gone one day anyway, without us having

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<v Speaker 4>to agree to anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure that you speak for Ho Chi Minh

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<v Speaker 3>on this? Could we ask him together?

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<v Speaker 8>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Before I go, though, Kim, do you know where

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<v Speaker 3>I could find two yet? Is there anyone I could ask?

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<v Speaker 3>Or somewhere I could go? Okay, okay, something Kim, please

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<v Speaker 3>a hint, a clue please? She's my daughter, my daughter

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<v Speaker 3>two yet? Please? Just somewhere I can go something, Just

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<v Speaker 3>someone I can talk Kim, A clue, a hint.

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<v Speaker 6>Please, Kim said nothing more.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael t Op to Joseph ar outside his villa.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks, Mike. Sorry, I couldn't get any more for you,

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<v Speaker 3>so worth a try.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, buddy, look after yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph hesitated at his front door. He could have an

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<v Speaker 1>early night alone, or the Continental Hotel bar was only

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<v Speaker 1>a block away.

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<v Speaker 2>Another?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why not? Hey, buddy, got a life?

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks jam join us if you like?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no thanks?

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<v Speaker 4>Would you like any foods?

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<v Speaker 5>Trim Kraka, rice ball?

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<v Speaker 9>What?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No thanks? Sir?

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<v Speaker 5>The gentleman at that table over there, I believe he

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<v Speaker 5>has a message for you. What you'll go, missus?

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<v Speaker 9>Salmon?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 4>You want a girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? No, no, no, I don't want a girl.

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<v Speaker 4>No a special girl. You're special girl. You've been looking

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<v Speaker 4>for her?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you have you been tailing me?

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't matter you want girl? You mean too yet name?

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever you tell no one? I give you a place

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<v Speaker 4>you tell no one, yes, especially not c I a

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<v Speaker 4>man you with today?

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<v Speaker 3>No no one?

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<v Speaker 2>Where Where is she? You read?

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<v Speaker 3>Go here? That's all I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I go Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph looked down at the torn slip of paper. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a street address.

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<v Speaker 6>In a city called way Quay, was in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Center of Vietnam, one thousand kilometers north of Saigon. Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>had wondered if he could trust this cloak and dagger stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether he should tell Mike Tench, But he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>entirely trust what the CIA might do if they found

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<v Speaker 1>two yet either. So he had gone with his instincts

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<v Speaker 1>and flown up on his own. The well dressed Vietnamese

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<v Speaker 1>man beside him picked up on his tension.

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<v Speaker 10>This is your first time in huey, sir, Oh, yes, military?

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<v Speaker 8>No, No, No civilian.

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<v Speaker 10>He's rare to see an American civilian.

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<v Speaker 3>This far north. Well, uh, I'm a journalist, ah doing

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<v Speaker 3>a story on how things are going outside Saigon.

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<v Speaker 10>Well you will fire. Things are going very well in

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<v Speaker 10>Hue Everything is opened, hotels, restaurant shops. It is a

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<v Speaker 10>good place for business. And I do business everywhere. War

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<v Speaker 10>or no war, everyone is still in your trade.

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<v Speaker 3>But whoay is home?

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<v Speaker 8>Where is home?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm coming home for that, you know that? Is it

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<v Speaker 10>like you America? And it's like Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know it will be a good week.

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<v Speaker 10>To visit where everyone is on holiday?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you staying? I'm not sure yet. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 3>to catch up with a friend who I think is

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<v Speaker 3>there here this place.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph handed over the address he'd been given for two yet,

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<v Speaker 1>a street in the family law quarter of Way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 10>I wouldn't stay in this area, sir, A bad part

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<v Speaker 10>of the town, full of thieves and prostitute. Be very

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<v Speaker 10>careful here, miss.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the warning, Joseph took a cab straight to the

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<v Speaker 1>address he'd been given, a block of rum down apartments

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<v Speaker 1>with the bar on the kromme how.

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<v Speaker 9>One tonight one?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, hello, mister American dream whiskey.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks midcom or Jake Daniel me Cock, Thanks and excuse me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for a woman.

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<v Speaker 6>What sort of woman?

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<v Speaker 3>Her name's Tran t Lant. I was told I might

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<v Speaker 3>find her here. Take a shit, I'll bring your drink

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<v Speaker 3>over and ask a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Joseph sat at a table and waited a

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<v Speaker 1>French movie played on a TV in the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>Want me called, Yeah, thank you to ya?

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<v Speaker 6>What are you doing here, Joseph?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, at last. You don't know how hard

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to find you.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you want you?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it. It's been twelve years. Oh it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>No one knows I'm here. I don't even know who

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<v Speaker 3>gave me the address. Someone connected with the Viet Cong.

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose are are you still with the Viet Cong?

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 11>Come in. You can't stay long. If anyone's eesy here,

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<v Speaker 11>I'll be accused of being an American spy.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're in danger, I can help.

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<v Speaker 11>We're both in danger, Joseph. In fact, you're in more

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<v Speaker 11>danger than me, especially if you're really.

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<v Speaker 3>On your line I am.

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<v Speaker 11>Then get back to the airport and get out of here.

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<v Speaker 11>An unarmed American in this part of town won't survive

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<v Speaker 11>the night.

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<v Speaker 9>Yet.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not in Hanoi. This is a way. The Americans

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<v Speaker 3>are in charge here and I can take you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We can go, Joseph.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, I shouldn't be saying this, but if you're really

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<v Speaker 11>here on your own. Something's going to happen tonight. They've

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<v Speaker 11>been waiting for the tut holiday when everyone's off guard.

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<v Speaker 11>If you don't leave now, what's going to happen? I

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<v Speaker 11>can't say anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>What surprised Joseph most was the concern in her voice,

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<v Speaker 1>the concern for him. After all her contempt and vitriol,

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<v Speaker 1>they were still family.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's your daughter?

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<v Speaker 11>How do you know about her?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a whole file on you too. Yet you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>by the Americans, the CIA. They know so much what

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<v Speaker 3>it started.

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<v Speaker 11>Come on, we've got to get you out down here quick.

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<v Speaker 6>Stay close to the wall.

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<v Speaker 9>Come on.

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<v Speaker 6>Down that way.

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<v Speaker 11>The river's at the end of the alley. There's a sampan,

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<v Speaker 11>a black and yellow one. Hide there, now go go.

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<v Speaker 8>What about you.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got a.

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<v Speaker 10>Job to do.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm still a soldier. You were right now?

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<v Speaker 8>Go Oh.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, Joseph, Juliet, Juliet jeh yeh.

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<v Speaker 6>Lad, dear, Shall we are your sapa?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 6>I am?

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<v Speaker 8>If you are.

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<v Speaker 6>Hold me again to.

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<v Speaker 9>H are you going to die? Where are you going

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<v Speaker 9>to die?

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<v Speaker 3>Where am I?

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<v Speaker 9>You've been asleep a long time?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, my name's Tree? Does it hurt? Very bad? Mamma said.

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<v Speaker 9>The bullet went right through Tren. Yes, are you my

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<v Speaker 9>mama's father?

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<v Speaker 3>Is your mother's name too yet?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Then yes, I'm your mamma's father.

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<v Speaker 9>So you're my grandfather.

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<v Speaker 3>I am? I am and well it's good to meet you, Trin.

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<v Speaker 9>Good to meet you grandfather.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was ten and it was the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>met my grandfather.

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<v Speaker 3>Has she told you much about me?

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<v Speaker 9>Not so much. She said, you were in America.

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<v Speaker 3>I came back. Why to find your mother? Then? See you?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you go to school?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like it?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm very good at it. Everyone says that I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Very clever and shy obviously.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I'm not shy. Just don't laugh if it hurts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, wise advice. Thank you, Trin.

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<v Speaker 9>It's okay. He's awake. Mamma.

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<v Speaker 11>I've brought you some rice balls.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, and we've been having a lovely chat.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, that's good you've met each other. We have to

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<v Speaker 11>go what we have to leave you here. The night

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<v Speaker 11>didn't go as well as we'd hoped. Me and Tren

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<v Speaker 11>have to go north. We'll be fine, but we have

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<v Speaker 11>to leave you here. Your marines will come in two

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<v Speaker 11>three hours. No, no, ye, don't argue, Joseph. That's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Two minutes. Hear me out. I can take Tren away

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<v Speaker 3>from this nightmare, and you all of us saw out

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<v Speaker 3>of danger. We can wait for the Marines. I have

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<v Speaker 3>good contacts, I'm known. I can make it happen.

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<v Speaker 11>Joseph. Nothing has changed. We will fight until Vietnam is free.

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<v Speaker 11>I'd rather cut my throat then go to America. I

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<v Speaker 11>don't know what part of this you cannot understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, but let me at least in my wallet.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you? Can you get out the photo? Where in

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<v Speaker 3>the back? Yeah? Right here? Can Twin keep this?

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<v Speaker 9>Is that you in the middle?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, well done. And on the left that's your

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<v Speaker 3>grandmother when we were very young at a tennis match.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's uncle Kim. Yes, he was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 11>What you and Kim?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Well we thought he No, he's alive.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh God, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Is he okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said nothing. He's like you too, yet strong.

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<v Speaker 3>I admire that is that them?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, they're coming, Trin. We've got to go now. Goodbye

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<v Speaker 11>to Yet, goodbye, Joseph.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll see you trin keep that photo safe.

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<v Speaker 9>Goodbye grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Three days later we were in Hanoi. My mother never

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Joseph again, but she did let me keep the

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<v Speaker 1>photo for years.

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<v Speaker 6>I looked at it every night. I still have it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Hi, look you and Stephan Jackie Sampans.

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<v Speaker 5>See an idiot?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, guys, in here? Where'd that come from?

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<v Speaker 9>In here? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Hound's above your head? Oh hi, sergeant, who the hell

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<v Speaker 3>are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph was taken back to Saigon in a medical chopper.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he was transferred straight to an army hospital, where

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<v Speaker 1>his first visitor was CIA boss Mike tent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all right, you a side for so I?

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<v Speaker 9>How do he? Mike?

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<v Speaker 2>What were you doing in Whay?

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<v Speaker 9>Joseph?

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<v Speaker 3>Looking for my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Figured as much. What made you think? Why did someone

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<v Speaker 2>tell you something?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I just remembered back in the thirties, or family

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<v Speaker 3>had a house up there and they used to all

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<v Speaker 3>get together for the holidays. Yes, so yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe some of them still might.

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<v Speaker 9>And do they.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you find her?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, nothing, Drew Blank got shot? Not the best holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I bet.

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<v Speaker 7>You got treatment, though your wound was already dressed when

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<v Speaker 7>they found you. How'd that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Money speaks all languages, Mike. I had to throw in

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<v Speaker 3>my role X too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank god you're alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know the time, by ann and I'm alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn looky.

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<v Speaker 1>The tet offensive brought home to the American public the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of the war in lives, and public opinion turned

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<v Speaker 1>against US involvement in Vietnam. President Lyndon Johnson pulled back

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<v Speaker 1>on the bombing raids over Hanoi. They never stopped entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>but with far fewer raids, everyone ventured back into the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Shops and parks reopened. It was summertime. There was talk

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<v Speaker 1>of a possible truce, and on one Saturday morning, Mama

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<v Speaker 1>took me out to the Dong Shwuan clothes market to

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<v Speaker 1>buy me a new pair of shoes. At long last,

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<v Speaker 1>life was starting to feel normal again.

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<v Speaker 6>But then one B fifty two dropped forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Bombs right over the marketplace. I was dug out four

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<v Speaker 1>hours later and woke up the next day in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when they told me my mama was dead.

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