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Speaker 1: Previously on Queen of the con Con. Artist Daniel Miller

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Speaker 1: is arrested at the Mexican border in October of but

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Speaker 1: she publicly claims it's all just a big misunderstanding, saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: it was at the Mexican border. I was coming into

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Speaker 1: the States on my birthday. I was in a bathing suit,

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Speaker 1: and they said there was a warrant for me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because that sheriff back in Joshua Tree explicitly warned her

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Speaker 1: it's like, whatever you have going on, you need to

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Speaker 1: take care of because you have warrants out. After Daniel

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Speaker 1: Riker's Island to await trial for scamming the body factory

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Speaker 1: Skincare SPA out of thousands of dollars using a slew

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Speaker 1: Rikers and you made friends with people, which is not

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Speaker 1: and or like is she for real? But right before

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, trying to trick her business partner into

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Speaker 1: She said, you know, if we just get married, I'll

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Speaker 1: be able to get so many millions. And she's like,

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Speaker 1: then we could just like split it up, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I would never. And after Mackenzie Day rebuffs

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Speaker 1: daniel Miller's many romantic advances, he says, she retaliates and

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Speaker 1: your name? Yes? I'm Jonathan Walton and this is Queen

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Speaker 1: of the con The Rich Girl, Episode four. I Love Danielle.

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Speaker 1: That is such a cool room you're in. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a like a spaceship or something. What is that?

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Speaker 1: This is block Fusion. We're a bitcoin mining facility here

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Speaker 1: in Niagara Falls. Yeah, I'm the director of operations. But

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Speaker 1: before Mackenzie day had that job. Back in he's living

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Speaker 1: At this point though he hasn't connected all the dots yet.

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Speaker 1: He meets daniel Miller through a wealthy female friend he

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Speaker 1: refers to as Davy to disguise her idea entity. So

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Speaker 1: Davy was a really good friend. Her and Danny or

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Speaker 1: Danielle knew each other from childhood right, and according to Mackenzie,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Miller scams the hell out of Davy too. So

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Speaker 1: what had happened was our friend Davy and I we

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Speaker 1: and Danny like jumped into move with her immediately, and

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Speaker 1: she got right back on drugs and alcohol. So during

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Speaker 1: that time, that's how Danny got all of her information.

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Speaker 1: And then Danny stole her identity as well and got credit.

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Speaker 1: So that's how because her wealthy mother got a Silver

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Speaker 1: daniel Miller rents in West Hollywood, her luxury apartment, and

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Speaker 1: all the accouterments she uses to trick Mackenzie into believing

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Speaker 1: struggling with a drug addiction. And then so our friend

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Speaker 1: buying things or not, you know, so like she then

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Speaker 1: now manipulated her to be like you're high, Like what

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Speaker 1: Danielle from you know, childhood, knowing her history all this

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Speaker 1: other stuff. But they still had to spend like fort

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Speaker 1: so funny because Danny would position herself in between my

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Speaker 1: She was just trying to help, saying quote and like

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Speaker 1: Like I was just like, yeah, I never like find

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about your ex boyfriend, Mackenzie Day. He

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Speaker 1: and took out loans and credit cards. Now, so is

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Speaker 1: hard facts. But it was like getting her mind to understand,

426
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: like if there's a split in there just knowing if

427
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: she knew she did it and she's not admitting, or

428
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: if she has she has no clue and she has

429
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: no idea, and this is some schizophrenic situation where she

430
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: just has no idea. This is another person right trying

431
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 1: to break those boundaries are very because it's like, if

432
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: you're crazy, to be crazy, but don't pretend you are.

433
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: Those lines with barriers eventually got broken down by like

434
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: a cool so she answered that the guests they were me,

435
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, cry, cry cry, and I'm like, okay, cool

436
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: boom put a hunter bucks in her comrades. Thank you.

437
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you being honest. And what is oh sorry,

438
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: So that's like when if someone is in jail, they

439
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: have a fund and so like you would send them

440
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: money they can buy toothpaste, Dorito's special meals. You can

441
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: buy them like snacks and cookies and ship to trade

442
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: if they need to. I was like, okay, cool, Like

443
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: I will give you what you're asking if you like

444
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: work with me to like unfunk what you've been doing,

445
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: and like just looking for the admit us the jail

446
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: commissary as like leverage. You'd buy her things to eat

447
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: if she gave you answers and mind you, these are

448
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: like snacks, and you know this is things that she

449
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: was trading to make what you just put a piece

450
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: of the puzzle together from you because if you were

451
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: called from the episode three, journalists Suka Pressler said Daniel

452
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: Miller was the life of the party in jail. She

453
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: sort of came into rikers and made friends with people,

454
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: which is not really kind of how people behaved generally

455
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: when they come into Riker's hand. She would give them

456
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: things to make friends with everyone. But those things she

457
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: was giving them she got from you, her commissary. Yeah,

458
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: that is so funny. Yeah, because she went around making

459
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: friends with everyone, giving them foods, giving them snacks that

460
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: she was getting from you while you were getting information

461
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: from getting her hair braided, you know, finding God, doing yoga,

462
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: like you know, making a lesbian girlfriend quote unquote. You know,

463
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: it's like who who was her lesbian girlfriend? I don't know,

464
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, like that's I don't know that's true.

465
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: But she's like, oh, I think she likes me, Like

466
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: you know, she's like I got picked up you know,

467
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: like just like just like live, you know, just once

468
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: again just traveling through this like these scenes of a

469
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: movie in her life. And luckily that movie has a

470
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: happy ending for Mackenzie at least because the cat and

471
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: mouse game he's playing with Daniel Miller pays off. She

472
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: eventually gives him the password to the email account she

473
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: created in his name and linked to all his bank

474
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: and credit cards, and she admits to a lot of

475
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: her other Los Angeles scams in exchange for that jailhouse

476
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: commissary cash. Whatever happened to that Tesla? Oh yeah, I

477
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: shut that down so fast. I was like, whatever you have,

478
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: scrap it, Like I'm going through like an identity that situation,

479
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: like do not I do not need a Tesla. And

480
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: it was weird because like I was born in Detroit.

481
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: She like purposely went to a Tesla dealership in Detroit

482
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: to they and then they're calling me. It's like it's

483
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: like she's just doing things to just do this. Yeah,

484
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: And here's the most interesting thing about all those jailhouse

485
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: phone calls between Mackenzie Day and Daniel Miller. They're all

486
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: recorded it and they're all getting listened to by the

487
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: new York prosecutors in her case, and they're all admissible

488
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: in court as evidence against her. I mean, that's when

489
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: the New York prosecutors ended up calling me because they

490
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: heard the recorded conversations and I had it was so funny.

491
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: The first time I just really got her, she was

492
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: just stunned, like I just I felt like I broke

493
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: her brain. Finally was when I was like, she's like

494
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: this and that blah blah, and I finally got in

495
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: the past. I was like, hey, de, I was like,

496
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I was like, hey, do you

497
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: know these calls are recorded? Right? And she was like

498
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: and then finally just got it, like and I was like, okay,

499
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: Like I haven't heard from her since. Eventually, Mackenzie Day

500
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: moves out of Los Angeles and starts a whole new

501
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: career as the director of operations for block Fusion, a

502
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: bitcoin mining facility in Niagara Falls. But he still thinks

503
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: about Daniel Miller almost every day, and not in a

504
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: good way, because anytime I get like a random spam

505
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: call or like something comes up or someone tells you know,

506
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: I just like I'm like daddy, it always goes to it. Yeah,

507
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: it's PTSD Yeah, it's just trauma, man, It's it's literal trauma. Yeah,

508
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: it's early now. Daniel Miller has been in jail at

509
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: Rikers Island for months. She's being charged with five felonies,

510
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: including grand larceny, identity theft, and the unlawful possession of

511
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: people's ideas. A trial date is fast approaching. And while

512
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Miller is making a lot of friends at Rikers,

513
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: there's one friend she makes in particular who really stands

514
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: out from the pack. Anna Freakin Delvy, that German heiress

515
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: con artist who famously scams a bunch of banks and

516
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: hotels in New York City. They met at Rikers Island.

517
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: If you recall, it was journalist Jessica Pressler who actually

518
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: wrote the article that the Netflix series Inventing Anna is

519
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: based on what you wear it you look. Paul and

520
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Jessica talks to Anna Delvy frequently. Anna called me. I

521
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: think it was in early twenty nineteen, well after the

522
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: story that I wrote came out, when the Netflix show

523
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: was kind of in production. So I was in communication

524
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: with her about that and she called and said, this

525
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: woman came into Rikers. She says she's from the Upper

526
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: East Side that we know a lot of the same

527
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: people that her dad at the head of the New

528
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: York Bar Association. And it's really weird, like can you

529
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: check it out? Like can you see if she's for real?

530
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: Because there was a kind of a theory in Rikers

531
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: that she was maybe like a law enforcement plant or

532
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: somebody who had been put in there to get their confession.

533
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: So everyone's because she's very like friendly and bubbily, and

534
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: I think people were just like, what is this? This

535
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: is a real person. She has a professional sound like

536
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: she's confident, like like a businesswoman. Well she was a publicist. Yeah,

537
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: so Anna thought that beca as she looked and sounded

538
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: so professional, And I get other inmates share the same

539
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: view that maybe she's a mole trying to trying to

540
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: get a confession, trying to find out stuff. Yeah, yeah,

541
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: they thought that that was the possibility. They were just

542
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: it was very confusing. She sort of came into Rikers

543
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: and and made friends with people, and I sort of

544
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: looked up the arrest record and was like, Okay, she's

545
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: in for the SPA fraud and here's the clincher to

546
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: this story. As fearless as you might think, and Adelvi

547
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: is based on all the crazy scams she pulls in

548
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: New York City and then has to gall to say

549
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: she's not sorry. The one thing that does scare her, apparently,

550
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: is Daniel Miller. Anna told me she found Danielle to

551
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: be kind of frightening. She just felt that she was

552
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: a level above her, you know, in terms of giving

553
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: no fox basically, and you know, she just doesn't care

554
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: about anything. So that was a little bit like jarring

555
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: to have somebody that canna be like no, no, no,

556
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: that person's brain. At this point, Daniel Miller is in

557
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: jail at Riker's Island for nearly seven months, and the

558
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: evidence against her is stacking up. There's police body cam

559
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: footage of cops catching her red handed at the Body

560
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Factory Skincare Squaw with a purse full of dozens of

561
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: other people's credit cards and I das. There are several

562
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: eyewitness accounts of Daniel Miller using stolen credit cards to

563
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: purchase thousands of dollars in botox and cool sculpting treatments

564
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: at that spa. And then there were all those jailhouse

565
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: phone call recordings of Daniel Miller talking to Mackenzie Day

566
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: admitting to scams she pulled in Los Angeles. If she's

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00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: convicted at trial, she's looking at five years or more

568
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: in jail. So daniel Miller decides to play it safe

569
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: and cuts a deal with prosecutors a group ringing to

570
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: plead guilty to three of the five felony counts against

571
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: her in exchange for a lighter sentence. According to the

572
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: transcripts from that guilty plea court hearing on April eleven,

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00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: MS Miller, do you not withdraw and he previously entered,

574
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: please of not guilty and do not plead guilty to

575
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: count one grand larsen in the third degree, Count two

576
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: identity theft in the first degree, and count six unlawful

577
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: possession by ds in the third degree, And those please

578
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: will cover and satisfy all the charges penning against you

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00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: under the indictment number thirty four sixty four of twoeen.

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00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Are those your please, ma'am? Yes? But Danielle is publicly

581
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: grilled about that guilty plea by an interviewer who asks, quote,

582
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: so what happened with that charge? Though really quick? The

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00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: charge for the Elitts spending five thousand dollars at a

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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: salon and this is how she spends it, saying, quote,

585
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: I sent eight months. They're trying to fight it, and

586
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: they wanted, like me to fight it longer. But they

587
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: said if I took a guilt, keeply for it. And

588
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I was like, if I sign this paper right now,

589
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: I get to go, because like at that point, I'm like,

590
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: buck this. I don't care about right, I don't care

591
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: about being a lawyer. I don't care. I just want

592
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: to get out. I do not care. I will sign

593
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: this right now. And they're like, you have to say

594
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: you're guilty, and I was like, I'm not saying I'm

595
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: guilty out loud, like, but if this paper says it,

596
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll sign it. Fine, Like I'll sign it, like and

597
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: I get to leave right now. Okay, I got to

598
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: leave right fucking now. And that's when you got released. Yeah.

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00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Miller is actually sentenced to three years in jail

600
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: after her guilty plea, but since she's already been locked

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00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: up for nearly eight months, and since she's not considered

602
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: a violent offender, she gets released with time served in July.

603
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Miller is suddenly a free woman, but she's got

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00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: no one to call. I mean, she's gone through every

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00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: family member and friend she ever had at this point

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00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: except journalist Jessica Pressler. What's some point where she called

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00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: me and asked to borrow my credit card to rent

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: a car, and I think I just said no, of course,

609
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: not what bye? But daniel Miller does eventually get a

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00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: car without Jessica's help, and she gets the hell out

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: of New York City and starts laying the groundwork for

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00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: the biggest con of her career. All that time she

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00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: did at Rikers only made her an infinitely more sophisticated scammer.

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00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: It's a shame. I think, like Anna, she's embraced this

615
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: identity a little bit, even just calling herself a con artist,

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00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: and has seen it kind of like a career path.

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Speaker 1: And that is troubling. Next time on Queen of the Con.

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Speaker 1: Why does Danielle Miller contin to you to do as

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Speaker 1: she does and continue to do it successfully. It's because

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00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: humans are war driven. We do what gets us results.

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Speaker 1: She does this because it pays. It pays big. Daniel

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00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: Miller figures out a way to impersonate literally anyone and

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00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: bleed their bank accounts dry. After looking at her phone,

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00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: I could see some days she would most the fact

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00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: that she had taken forty day or some other days

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00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: would be. Portions of public statements made to the media

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Speaker 1: by Danielle Miller were dramatized verbatim in this episode, as

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Speaker 1: producer Jill pass Nick, Coordinator George farm Sound designed by

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Speaker 1: Tim Mulhern, Edited and mixed by Tim Mulhern, Supervising editor

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Speaker 1: Victoria Chang, Audio engineer Justin Longerbean studio engineer Matteo Barrigan.

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Speaker 1: Mastered by Victoria Chang. Legal counsel for A y R Media,

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Speaker 1: Gianni Douglas, executive producer for iHeart Media, Maya Howard voice

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Speaker 1: acting by Jorge Farragut and Melina Crawlski. Court records, police records,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, victim interviews, interviews with investigators,

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Speaker 1: the New York Post, New York Magazine, and spotifyes Forbidden

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Speaker 1: Fruits were the sources used for this season of Queen

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