WEBVTT - Go Getters for Sit Downers 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Gettie

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<v Speaker 1>and he Armstrong and Jetty.

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<v Speaker 2>So, last week in Los Angeles, a federal judge issued

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<v Speaker 2>an order blocking the Trump administration from carrying out controversial

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<v Speaker 2>immigration sweeps in seven southern California counties. Well, that order

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<v Speaker 2>has no effect up here in Northern California, where we

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<v Speaker 2>joined a Border Patrol strike team today here in the

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<v Speaker 2>state Capitol as they went out and enforced immigration law.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right to that video. Take a look.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as those border patrol agents pulled up to

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<v Speaker 2>a local home depot, suspected illegal immigrants took off running

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<v Speaker 2>in all directions. That then led to several foot pursuits

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<v Speaker 2>and we saw about ten people arrested in this one

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<v Speaker 2>single location.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's the home depot and Flora. The only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I ever go over to Flora is because I go

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<v Speaker 1>to PCP Motorsports a lot to get my motorcycles worked

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<v Speaker 1>on and that sort of thing. But I'm over in

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<v Speaker 1>that area and it is pretty uh Spanish speaking, heavily

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<v Speaker 1>heavy over there, so it's not shocking and home depots

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<v Speaker 1>have seemed to be a target really all across the

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<v Speaker 1>country for so I've never actually done this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of surprised I haven't, because we've needed lots of

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<v Speaker 1>workers out at the farm for a variety of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you can just show up to the home

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<v Speaker 1>depot and there's a bunch of Spanish speaking gentlemen hanging

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<v Speaker 1>around the parking lot who are willing to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Who you say, I need two guys for eight hours ex.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty dollars an hour whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And they probably aren't citizens of this land, uh, nor

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<v Speaker 1>properly registered as visitors.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I've heard, Jack, But the governor of cal Unicornia,

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<v Speaker 3>the man with more lust for the oval office than

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<v Speaker 3>a teenage boy has for the touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a female l presuming they're straight. We love everyone here.

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<v Speaker 3>Gavy blasts away, trying to escape a court order stopping

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<v Speaker 3>their reprehensible and illegal racial profiling and illegal rests in

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<v Speaker 3>La Border Patrol came to Sacramento to spread more of

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<v Speaker 3>their chaos and fear they should go do their jobs

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<v Speaker 3>at the border. Interestingly, he posted that online and the

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<v Speaker 3>comments were almost entirely Yeah, that's what we voted for.

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<v Speaker 1>For them to do what they're doing. Another eighty twenty issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, and of course some of the local media, including

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<v Speaker 3>the reprehensible Sacramento will be reported that one of the

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<v Speaker 3>individuals captured by ICE is actually a citizen of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bill Malugin explains why they did that.

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<v Speaker 2>In the next clip, Border Patrol went on to tell

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<v Speaker 2>us that record checks came back already on one one

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<v Speaker 2>of those men, showing he's a felon with a prior

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<v Speaker 2>conviction for fentanyl trafficking. Now, agents also chased down this man,

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<v Speaker 2>a US citizen. This is after Border Patrol said he

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<v Speaker 2>slashed the tire on one of their vehicles. Agents eventually

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<v Speaker 2>took him to the ground where he appeared to lunch

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<v Speaker 2>at one of the agents, causing him to get mace

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<v Speaker 2>in the face and placed under arrest. As he was arrested,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife was shouting that he's a US citizen. Agents responded, well,

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<v Speaker 2>too bad, because he slashed our.

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<v Speaker 1>Tire, mased in the fast. That's not the way you

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend your weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>You get to face mace in place under arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want them to do? Well, so we

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<v Speaker 1>got this text. This is kind of where I am

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<v Speaker 1>on this. Somebody said, I don't believe the polls. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into the latest poll that just came out a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hours ago where people are getting less happy

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<v Speaker 1>with this. But this person texted, if we let in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million people, there's gonna be some pain getting them out,

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<v Speaker 1>the country will be better for it. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>heard this from Sarahzger on the Dispatch. She's lizes polls

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<v Speaker 1>and issues and the different sort of stuff and then

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<v Speaker 1>the actual long term effect versus just the polling at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I think ultimately the Republican Party and Trump

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<v Speaker 1>will be benefit from dealing with this, even if the

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<v Speaker 1>polling at the time doesn't look very good. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, the latest Raids IPSOS poll out fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people disagreed with the statement immigration arrests at

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<v Speaker 1>places of work are good for the country. Fifty four disagreed,

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<v Speaker 1>only twenty eight in support. That's a pretty big gap.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, at the end of the day, I think

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to reward the party that finally does

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<v Speaker 1>something about illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a really interesting point because you do

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<v Speaker 3>tend to forget about some of the rough patches that

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<v Speaker 3>took place as you're accomplishing an important goal. Once that

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<v Speaker 3>goes accomplished, what I had another thought is important. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish the Republicans were any good at messaging. It

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<v Speaker 3>must be because Conservatives, generally speak, are individualists and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't particularly like being told what to say. But why

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<v Speaker 3>not have everybody respond with some version of the Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>let twelve million. But whatever the good accurate number is

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<v Speaker 3>during the Biden years or Biden plus abom or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats let twelve million people into the country. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be easy to fix that. Bear with us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good line, That's a great line. They should

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<v Speaker 1>all be repeating that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, yeah, yeah, And I actually do believe that

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<v Speaker 3>poll because I think so many of us interact and

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<v Speaker 3>all over the country with folks who maybe don't have

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<v Speaker 3>their paperwork in order, but they're doing jobs and seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be law abiding in the rest of it. The

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<v Speaker 3>further you get down the road toward law abiding and

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<v Speaker 3>tax paying, the less support you're going to have. But

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<v Speaker 3>where the critical point is where you have so little

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<v Speaker 3>support you have to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know or how difficult it would be to

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<v Speaker 1>separate those out that wouldn't take either way too long

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<v Speaker 1>or costs way too much.

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<v Speaker 3>One other talking point I wish the Republicans to your

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<v Speaker 3>point I wish they would settle on, is if these

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<v Speaker 3>so called sanctuary states would turn over the criminal illegal

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<v Speaker 3>aliens to ICE, we wouldn't have to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent point. That would be a winning message. Excellent point.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a breakdown on the so only twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of Americans are in support of going into these

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<v Speaker 1>workplaces like the home depot down the street here, only

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight percent. But it's a pretty big divide. Only

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent of Democrats while fifty six percent of Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think only fifty six percent of Republicans is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty striking, given the fact that I saw a different poll.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's approval among Republicans just overall is it ninety percent,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent, but on this issue it drops down quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Overall, Trump's immigration approval rating is down to

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<v Speaker 1>forty one in this poll. He was as eye as

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven just a month ago. It's down to forty one.

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<v Speaker 1>He could be in the thirties very soon. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to use a very tired sort of phrase, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make an omelet you got to break some eggs. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you deal with this mess without having

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty unfortunate stories out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe force the hand of the electorate and or

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<v Speaker 3>the Congress to say, all right, all right, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, you've made your point. We need to enforce

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<v Speaker 3>the law. But the laws are a little broad. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have support. Let's let's refine this, let's have better laws.

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<v Speaker 3>To my point about sanctuary jurisdictions, though, I like this

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<v Speaker 3>next clip, now heedy too.

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<v Speaker 2>The Border Patrol chief in charge of this entire operation

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<v Speaker 2>tells us the federal government can and will go wherever

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<v Speaker 2>they want, even in this sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there is no sanctuary city. Sacramento is not a

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<v Speaker 4>sanctuary city. The state of California is not a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no sanctuary anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be here.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll probably see us in many of the locations as well.

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<v Speaker 4>We're here to stay. We're not going anywhere. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to affect this mission, scare the homeland. So did the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court decide to take that up? Nor did I

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<v Speaker 4>dream that were you gonna finally deal with that? Is

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<v Speaker 4>there such thing that guy's basically saying there's no such

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<v Speaker 4>thing as a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state, and

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<v Speaker 4>there is there shouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to say next session, it's on the docket.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I dreamt it too. That'd be weird if we're

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<v Speaker 3>dreaming the same dreams. I'm quitting the show's gone too far. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm disturbed, but mostly I don't watch. You see, in

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<v Speaker 3>my dreams, some of them can get very well, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just say not for air.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like briefly when we were getting each other's notes

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<v Speaker 1>in our note portion of our iPhones. Remember that, What

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<v Speaker 1>the hell was that? Yeah? I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Highly troubling, Yeah, no kidding. Anyway, moving along, let's see

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<v Speaker 3>what else do we have. Oh, this is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>foun how come.

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<v Speaker 1>That hasn't been set out loud more strongly by more people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing as a sanctuary, So you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a sanctuary from the current federal law. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, or you could, or or red states would

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<v Speaker 1>start having sanctuary gun law, we allow people to get

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<v Speaker 1>open carry here just anywhere they want, all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can have as many rounds as you want.

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<v Speaker 1>That because we're a sanctuary gun in town.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right again. The Republicans are so terrible with their messaging.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to me a pretty compelling sales pitch to say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just going to deal with the criminals. We need

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement everywhere to hand over the criminals and see

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<v Speaker 3>what percentage of Americans are in favor of that. This

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be like everybody and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>and trust me, well, anybody who's been listening to this

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<v Speaker 3>show for a long time knows tim as hardcore border

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<v Speaker 3>security serious immigration laws as anybody out there. But on

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<v Speaker 3>the conservative side of the aisle, there is undeniably sympathy

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<v Speaker 3>for the hard working go getter who disrupts their whole life,

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<v Speaker 3>busts their ass, shows up every single day, follows the law,

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<v Speaker 3>pays their taxes, loves their family, just happens to be

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<v Speaker 3>from a fur in land. If they want to come

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<v Speaker 3>correct and pay a fine or whatever and have a

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<v Speaker 3>pathway to whatever. There's a lot of sympathy for those

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<v Speaker 3>people on the right, and there should be. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>can enact a law wherefore every person like that who

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<v Speaker 3>we permit to stay in the country, we kick out

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<v Speaker 3>some free loading scumbags who are American citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what they are. You're born in Omaha,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're living off the taxpayer. Yeah, get out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're's the third generation sucking off the government's teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, no, you're out.

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<v Speaker 5>Go to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a citizen. Well, go be a citizen somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a leech. Go to that El Salvador prison where

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<v Speaker 1>they make you bend over and walk around. Well no,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, there are other alternatives, but call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Call it what would it be?

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<v Speaker 3>The the go getters for sit downers act.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not good. I gotta keep working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get the point. I have a list of

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<v Speaker 1>some people you can grab. I gotta hear you. I

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<v Speaker 1>hear you. Put me in charge. I'll be fair. You

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<v Speaker 1>probably are on the story of the Chris Martin of

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<v Speaker 1>Coldplay does the kiss cam and the guy kisses the

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<v Speaker 1>girl but they're having an affair and they get caught

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes a problem. He is a CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>a big company, and he put out a big statement

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that I thought was interesting. Well, you know, put

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<v Speaker 1>that in our groupings of apologies that we we like

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<v Speaker 1>to read.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting, is one word for his statement, among other things,

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<v Speaker 3>on the way stay.

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<v Speaker 6>Here, the Steve Miller Band has canceled all of its

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<v Speaker 6>tour dates because of global warming. Oh god, yeah, organizers

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<v Speaker 6>admit it's a waste of fuel to go from Phoenix, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 6>all the way to Tacoma, Philadelphia, Atlanta, LA.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you clapping for that? What he is? The

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<v Speaker 1>A plus policeman, different concert. I can't believe cold Play

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Martin because he's a very u progressive musician.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's married to Gwyneth Paltrow. They named their

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<v Speaker 1>kid Apple. They believed in what was that conscious uncoupling

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the whole package. That's right, But he's still

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<v Speaker 1>touring despite climate change. And I can't believe how much

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<v Speaker 1>attention the story is getting. The whole you've probably heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>are you're seeing it? If you watched any news yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>It included the story of the they do a kiss

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<v Speaker 1>cam at their concerts like they do it baseball games,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, and uh, they put they put the camera

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple who like immediately gets wide eyed and

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<v Speaker 1>like disappear, and Chris Marcus.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually couples see themselves and say, oh, let's kiss. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the kiss cam and everybody yy. But this couple's like,

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<v Speaker 3>holy crap, and everybody's yay. So here's what it sounded like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, all right, come on, Ruthie. What either an

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<v Speaker 1>affair or they're just very shut Yeah, you're right. They're

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<v Speaker 1>either having an affair. They're very shy. The CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>this corporation with the HR chief of his company. They're

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<v Speaker 1>both married to other people, and uh, pretty bold in

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<v Speaker 1>their affair. I would say to go out to this

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<v Speaker 1>concert anyway. He felt the need because this blew up

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<v Speaker 1>all day yesterday and social media. A statement from CEO

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Byron, New York, New York, July seventeen. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to acknowledge the moment that's been circulating online and the

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<v Speaker 1>disappointment it's caused what was supposed to be a night

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<v Speaker 1>of music and joy. Oh wow, I couldn't even when

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<v Speaker 1>I read that, I thought, I can't believe this is

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<v Speaker 1>where you're starting. What was supposed to be a night

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<v Speaker 1>of music and joy turned into a deeply personal mistake

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<v Speaker 1>playing out on a very public stage. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>sincerely apologize to my wife, my family, and the team

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<v Speaker 1>at Astronomery that's the company he runs. You deserve better

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<v Speaker 1>for me as a partner, as a father, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a leader. Wow, that's he's right. It has caused some disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that word.

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<v Speaker 3>His wife must be thinking, oh, he's having an affair

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<v Speaker 3>and actually going out with her on the town.

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<v Speaker 1>That's disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>And his children are thinking, oh, Papa has another wife

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<v Speaker 3>across town.

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<v Speaker 1>I too, am disappointed or our family is going to

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<v Speaker 1>split up and having been through that, this will be

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<v Speaker 1>the most devastating thing that's ever happened in my entire

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<v Speaker 1>life as a child, and I'll never ever be the

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<v Speaker 1>same afterwards. But how disappointing, how fun for everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>see it happen on the Cold Play stage. This is

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<v Speaker 1>ironic that it was supposed to be a night of

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<v Speaker 1>music and joy. That's a weird way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not who I want to be or how

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<v Speaker 1>I want to represent the company I helped build. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about the company. I'm taking time to reflect, to take accountability,

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<v Speaker 1>and to figure out the next steps personally and professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for privacy as I navigate that process. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably was thinking lawyers and hr and all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff immediately, in addition to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he may have blown up his family.

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<v Speaker 3>Having already issued a fairly mediocre apology, he decides to

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<v Speaker 3>write a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the part's amazing. I also want to express

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<v Speaker 1>how troubling it is that what should have been a

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<v Speaker 1>private moment became public without my consent. Oohoo, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of angry at someone else for the way this

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<v Speaker 1>has turned out interesting. I respect artists and entertainers, but

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we can all think more deeply about the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of turning someone else's life into a spectacle. You

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<v Speaker 1>were literally in an effing stadium full of people. In

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<v Speaker 1>what sense is that a private moment? That is hilarious? Sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that with a little bit like rereading it,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought, he didn't think. You know, I probably shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>blame anybody for this, because I have created this situation

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<v Speaker 1>completely on my own, acting like it's someone else's fault

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<v Speaker 1>somehow at the end of the letters, probably not a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea, but I don't know. Maybe that helped him

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<v Speaker 1>sleep last night, probably in a hotel. It's a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of how we can come up with self justifying

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<v Speaker 1>arguments that are just completely ridiculous, because I mean, for

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<v Speaker 1>him to claim that was a private moment, that's hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>but he believed it enough to write it and issue it,

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<v Speaker 1>or that that's the real or that that's worth even

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<v Speaker 1>bringing up at all. So if Chris Martin hadn't put

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<v Speaker 1>the camera on you, you'd been able to have your

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<v Speaker 1>affair and go to the concert with your lover and

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<v Speaker 1>continue both of you lie to your families. And wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>that have been grand? I mean, what, wow, what a dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, coming up, they call them the monster trucks of

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<v Speaker 3>the Lake. They're banned in many places, and a brilliant

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<v Speaker 3>young economist explains the economics of doing it yourself or

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<v Speaker 3>not doing it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Intriguing stuff. I like all this. Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty,

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, today Uber announced a partnership to deploy more

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty thousand robotaxis over the next six years.

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<v Speaker 6>Lyft also has a robotaxi, but it's just a regular

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<v Speaker 6>car where the driver's covered by a blanket.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting that he makes it seem Likelyft is a

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<v Speaker 1>poor man's Uber where I was told a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and I struggled with Uber that somebody told

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<v Speaker 1>me no, no, no, you got to dot Lift is Target,

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<v Speaker 1>Uber is Walmart. But then other people have told me

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<v Speaker 1>it varies from town to town, which might be true

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's all, but it's certainly not clear that

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<v Speaker 1>Lift is like clearly lesser than Uber. I have looked

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<v Speaker 1>for patterns and not to find them. No, I can't either,

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<v Speaker 1>although the price office sure varies a lot sometimes so

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<v Speaker 1>I do check both. If one comes back high, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely true. But that's another pattern I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out. If it's just if it just happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be a day where there's a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 3>Lift drivers out. Yeah, but a lot of guys are

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<v Speaker 3>both anyway. Sure there's somebody who has a grasp on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps you can email us mail bag at armstrong e

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<v Speaker 3>Giddy dot com. But speaking of working and paying the

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<v Speaker 3>people to do things to work for you, I came

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<v Speaker 3>across this essay that I thought was so great by

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<v Speaker 3>Roland Friar. Roland is a fascinating guy. He's an absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>brilliant Youngish economist. He happens to be on the faculty

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<v Speaker 3>of Harvard. Among other things, he's won many awards. He

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<v Speaker 3>first came to fame as a young black man because

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<v Speaker 3>he published an extremely compelling analysis in twenty nineteen that

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about at length arguing that black and Hispanic

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<v Speaker 3>Americans were no more likely than white Americans to be

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<v Speaker 3>shot by police in a given interaction with police.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it was somewhat less likely.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was extremely controversial, and he was called all

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<v Speaker 3>of the things black folks are called when they dare go.

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<v Speaker 1>Against the progressive consensus.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's a really compelling guy and what he's writing

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<v Speaker 3>it do you have a comment on that, Jack before

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<v Speaker 3>before you head or Okay, he's talking about the economics

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<v Speaker 3>of d IY do it yourself? Should you hire someone

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<v Speaker 3>to mow your lawn or clean your house? And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought this is great and we'll close the CENTERIC. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and it's trust me, it pays off. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>post this at Armstrong and getty dot com. You might

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<v Speaker 3>get paywalled, but we'll see what we can do. He

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<v Speaker 3>mentions that Americans are real di wires. We clean our

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<v Speaker 3>own houses a large extent, assemble our own furniture a grill,

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<v Speaker 3>even when we'd be better off hiring someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>He says they are better off is a phrase that

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<v Speaker 1>should be put in quotes, because he can argue that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, still I mow my lawn and cook most nights

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<v Speaker 3>for my family, even though I work eighty to ninety

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<v Speaker 3>hours a week, not counting my side hustle as an

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<v Speaker 3>unpaid driver in sideline soccer coach for my two daughters.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an economist able to think through these decision decisions rationally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>When a friend invited me to play golf and I

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<v Speaker 3>declined because the yard needed mowing, he couldn't hide his disbelief. Quote,

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<v Speaker 3>you can pay someone to cut your lawn, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>pay someone to have fun for you. He meant it

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<v Speaker 3>as a joke. I took it as an indictment. He

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<v Speaker 3>was calling me out on one of the most basic

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<v Speaker 3>principles in economics, opportunity cost, meaning the things you give

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<v Speaker 3>up when you spend your resources, including time and money,

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<v Speaker 3>on something else. If I choose to be an astronaut,

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<v Speaker 3>I have given up my chance to be an interpretive dancer,

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<v Speaker 3>at least.

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<v Speaker 1>For a while. I think that was a good choice.

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<v Speaker 3>If I if I have limited money, explored space as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to world around in random ways and claimed it

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<v Speaker 3>meant something so opportunity costs meaning the things you give

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<v Speaker 3>up when you spend your resources, including time and money,

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<v Speaker 3>on something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he right?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, But a truly economics informed approach to dy is

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<v Speaker 3>more nuanced than it seems. It gets really interesting. It's

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<v Speaker 3>tempting to treat decisions like this as simple arithmetic. Add

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<v Speaker 3>up the cost of hiring help, compare it with your

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<v Speaker 3>hourly wage, voila. In that light, it does seem crazy

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<v Speaker 3>for a tenured professor to mow his lawn. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>talked about this a year or so ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Linskim, who does the financial stuff economic stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>the Dispatch, wrote a Colosscott long piece about that opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>cost that really kind of convinced me toward hiring more people.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I don't know that I have which I have

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling this is where we're going, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the rest of this. I bet you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see. It's it's tempting to.

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<v Speaker 3>Treat decisions like this simple arithmetic, as he says, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems even crazier to do what I did as a

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<v Speaker 3>broke grad student when I hired a daily housekeeper so

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<v Speaker 3>I could stay focused on what mattered most research, writing, teaching,

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<v Speaker 3>in the occasional video game, when I wasn't consumed with

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<v Speaker 3>the first three. But that isn't really thinking like an economist.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's one of the leaders in economics moving from

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<v Speaker 3>this single minded idea that human beings are purely logical

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<v Speaker 3>and purely you know, economic in terms of dollars and

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<v Speaker 3>cents numbers, and that's the only thing that matters. It

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<v Speaker 3>seems laughable in retrospect that that's the way economics thought

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. You know, if you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>go with that logic, no one would ever have kids

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<v Speaker 1>because economically it does make sense. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Decision making is about considering the full set of options

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<v Speaker 3>and how much you value each one. Sometimes you may

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<v Speaker 3>find yourself mowing the lawn when you can afford not to,

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<v Speaker 3>or paying more than your hourly wage to hire help.

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<v Speaker 3>Other economic concepts can illustrate why one diminishing marginal returns.

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<v Speaker 3>The value of an extra hour isn't fixed. It depends

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<v Speaker 3>on what came before it. If you've been working all

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<v Speaker 3>weekend and finally carve out a free hour mowing the

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<v Speaker 3>lawn might feel like a punishment, and avoiding that punishment

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<v Speaker 3>would be especially valuable. But if you spent the weekend

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<v Speaker 3>relaxing or playing with your kids, that same hour might

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<v Speaker 3>feel restorative. The activity hasn't changed you have. He's mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>speaking of uber and left as we were. When I've

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<v Speaker 3>been traveling too much and I haven't seen my daughters,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll sometimes take an uber with them instead of driving,

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<v Speaker 3>just so we can sit in the back and catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh to me, that's money well spent. That's cute. That's sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that brings me to a third economic layer, to

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<v Speaker 3>consider American beliefs about identity and morality.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is maybe what you were hinting at, Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>We attach pride to doing things ourselfs, and pride has

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<v Speaker 3>value too. For some of us, mowing the lawn isn't

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<v Speaker 3>only about the grass, time or money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about what it says about us.

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<v Speaker 3>It signals I take care of my things, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>rely on others, I'm not above the work. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if I'm pushing that more out of principle or

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<v Speaker 3>because I want others to see me pushing it. I

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<v Speaker 3>resisted hiring anybody to help with lawng cair, landscaping, plants, trees, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>For a very long time for precisely that reason, and

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<v Speaker 3>I had to admit it. And I had some fairly

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<v Speaker 3>complicated yards that took so much time and energy it

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<v Speaker 3>was indefensible.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was doing it out of pride. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he also got a factor in what it

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<v Speaker 1>signals to your kids. And I don't know which side

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<v Speaker 1>of this a person would be on. You might feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you should signal to your kids, don't waste your

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<v Speaker 1>time on the lawn, or you might I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm closer to this need to signal to my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I mowed the freaking lawn right and that noscle you

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<v Speaker 1>on the lawn.

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<v Speaker 3>I do what has to be done, whether I like

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<v Speaker 3>it or not. Maybe the most important muscle any human

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<v Speaker 3>being ever develops. In fact, I know it is beneath

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<v Speaker 3>our pride lurks. The opportunity cost. My friend chided me

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<v Speaker 3>about a cost that too few people consider seriously. According

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Americans spend two hours

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<v Speaker 3>a day on household activities like cooking, cleaning, laundry and

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<v Speaker 3>yard work. That's more time than we spend exercising or socializing.

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<v Speaker 3>We should probably buy more of that time back, even

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<v Speaker 3>if it means swallowing a little pride. Not everyone can

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<v Speaker 3>or should outsources DIY activities, of course, but a great

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<v Speaker 3>many people perform these tasks out of habit, inertia, or

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<v Speaker 3>guilt and would be better off spending the money to

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<v Speaker 3>get help.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just one. I enjoy mowing the lawn. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't think I couldn't. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lawn currently. I don't own a how so, but if

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<v Speaker 1>I did own the house I have, I would mold

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<v Speaker 1>al on myself. But there's other stuff, like our agent's

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<v Speaker 1>always on me because every time I'm talking to them

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<v Speaker 1>about personal life Stuff's just the amount of paperwork that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do is the loane. I'm the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the household, and the household I'm the only person.

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<v Speaker 1>I should hire somebody for that. I should not be

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<v Speaker 1>spending my time hours trying to log into a website

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<v Speaker 1>pay a stupid bill crap. Somebody should be doing that

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<v Speaker 1>for me. That's just a waste of my life. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the sentence about many people perform these tasks

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<v Speaker 3>out of habit, inertia or guilt, and would be better

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<v Speaker 3>off spending the money to get help.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That reminds me of one of the great divides I

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<v Speaker 3>think that you can observe in society. The left generally

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<v Speaker 3>is big on trust your feelings, and the right is

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<v Speaker 3>more on, you know, observe your feelings, but think about them.

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<v Speaker 3>Your feelings are irrational and unhelpful, at least as often

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<v Speaker 3>as they are you know, or you know, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>sixty forty or forty sixty, it doesn't matter. But the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that your feelings are always right and you should

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<v Speaker 3>always trust them. Yeah, yeah, my husband kind of pissed

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<v Speaker 3>me off. I'm gonna blast him and tell him exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what I think of him. No, don't trust that feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be gone in like ten seconds anyway. Here are

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<v Speaker 3>some examples Roland writes of how to think through this

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<v Speaker 3>decision these decisions Like an economist. Jane is a corporate

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<v Speaker 3>lawyer and workaholic. Not enough hours in her day. Her

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<v Speaker 3>rare moments are free time or precious She's got cash

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<v Speaker 3>to burn for her paying someone to clean the house

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<v Speaker 3>or prepared dinner isn't indulgence, it's common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an easy one.

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<v Speaker 3>Heather is short on both time and money, and hiring

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<v Speaker 3>a cleaner would cost more than she makes it work.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually she hates cleaning or needs that time for something urgent,

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<v Speaker 3>she's probably better off doing it herself. That isn't a failure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most rational choice given her circumstances. Yeah, unless

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<v Speaker 3>she really hates cleaning or needs that time, she's better

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<v Speaker 3>off doing it herself.

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to throw this in because we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole bunch of texts about this, because the

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>last time we wrote it up about you know you

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<v Speaker 1>and your effing yachts or whatever, about people who this

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<v Speaker 1>is an option for Yeah, for a big giant chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. I didn't worry about these conversations because

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't an option to hire anybody to do anything. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to be in a situation where it's

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<v Speaker 1>an option. So he gave you a pretty easy one

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<v Speaker 1>on both ends. John is a middle class dad with

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<v Speaker 1>modest savings and limited flexibility at work. If he wants

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<v Speaker 1>extra time at home, he can't simply clock out early.

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<v Speaker 1>He pays the cleaner more than he makes per hours,

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<v Speaker 1>so on paper, it doesn't seem to add up. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>it buys him time to read to his kids, or

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<v Speaker 1>help with homework, or simply be less stressed after a

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<v Speaker 1>long shift. It might be the smartest money he spends

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<v Speaker 1>all week. He isn't maximizing his present disposable income, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's boosting his lifetime utility. Yeah, that's where I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a person to clean the house, which I

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<v Speaker 1>still rubs me the wrong way. It just it's not

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<v Speaker 1>in my DNA. But it became clear to me that

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<v Speaker 1>it was cutting into time with the kids to do

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<v Speaker 1>various things. And I can't justify that. If I were

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<v Speaker 1>on my own, no freaking way, I would be higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I was cleaner to do this, I would do

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<v Speaker 1>it myself. But I just I couldn't. I couldn't justify

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm sorry, I can't go for a bike ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to finish this laundry. I just I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't justify that. But it does bother me. My

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<v Speaker 1>kids sometimes have a bit of an attitude about the

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<v Speaker 1>house cleaner didn't do something right or whatever, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't that I totally hear you. You are absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>justified in hiring a housekeeper. Are your kids absolutely justified

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<v Speaker 3>in having one?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I know what a quandary.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even like to admit that Judy and I

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<v Speaker 3>have a house cleaner, especially because she does not get

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<v Speaker 3>along with our butler at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of them. They have a thing going way back.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no solving it.

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<v Speaker 3>And and Sleeve Boy, my servant who merely buttons the

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<v Speaker 3>little button that's like mid arm that's so difficult to button.

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<v Speaker 3>He hears them bickering and he can't concentrate on his work,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I have to punish him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, just cite a long running joke on

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<v Speaker 1>the Armstrong a Gedddy show. I have known people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's none of my business. I have known people

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<v Speaker 1>that complain to me about their financial situation and have

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>people that do this stuff. And I think, Okay, your

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>paycheck to paycheck, you're barely making it. Don't have someone

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<v Speaker 1>clean your house. Maybe do it yourself. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>wh he's they're on Michael. I just remember Joe has

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<v Speaker 1>that guy who's a footstool as well. Oh yeah, remember

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<v Speaker 1>the human footstools, right, he's part time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just during, you know, the latter part of the

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<v Speaker 3>week when I'm getting tired and really need a footstool

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<v Speaker 3>and the adjustable kind of mechanical kind aren't good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to be able to say footstool boy, footstool

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<v Speaker 3>boy when it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>With you, backup slightly higher, please, thank you, comes with you,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever room you go into, it's very Yeah, footstool boy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're moving to the den now. Oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst any thoughts in any of this text

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<v Speaker 1>line four one, five two nine KFTC. We are thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>to have you here.

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<v Speaker 5>Alcatraz Prison the Rock an infamous symbol of law and

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<v Speaker 5>order in American history, and President Trump wants it reopened.

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<v Speaker 1>It could hold anything. This is a terrific facility needs

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 5>Fox News joined Attorney General Pam Bondi and Interior Secretary

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<v Speaker 5>Doug Bergham for an exclusive tour of the rock, now

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<v Speaker 5>part of a national park.

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<v Speaker 7>Alcatraz Is is the brand known around the world uh

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<v Speaker 7>for being a effective at housing people that are in incarceration.

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<v Speaker 3>Pam Bondy and Doug Bergham are both very bright people,

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<v Speaker 3>and to hear them struggling to come up with any

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<v Speaker 3>explanation whatsoever of what they're doing is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm just keeping it real.

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<v Speaker 3>As the kids say, actually traveled Alcatraz is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It could hold anything. She says, actually traveled clear across

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<v Speaker 1>the country, then had to take the boat out Talcatraz

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco to vis just a key aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>the question before us.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 1>Then act like this is gonna happen. Okay, any who

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<v Speaker 1>just came across this story.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the truth is very briefly, Alcatraz is much

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<v Speaker 3>much more significant as a tourist location than as a prison.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a prison for relatively short amount of time,

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<v Speaker 3>and it captures the imagination because it's remote and you

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<v Speaker 3>take a boat ride out there and it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about CBS firing Colbert. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one if it was financial and not political. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the timing shirt certainly doesn't work in your favor for

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<v Speaker 1>that narrative. But I want to talk about this at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. Australia is the first major country clearing the

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<v Speaker 1>path for a social media age checks, or really age

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<v Speaker 1>checks of any kind online that they think will work,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously you could apply to social media and porn

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<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of different things. Maybe we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit later. I came across this thread

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was really good. I was actually actually from

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Tybee, who we really liked, the journalist Matt Tybee.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said, post your favorite NPR ridiculousness. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>On the day that the taxpayer funding for NPR and

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<v Speaker 1>PBS got ya, and the mainstream and left is claiming

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<v Speaker 1>like it's some sort of attack on free speech or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Good lord. Actually, Tom Cotton, Senator Tom Cotton, Republican, said

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<v Speaker 1>this would be like yanking the funding if there was

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer funding from bright Bart News and it got yanked.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for Bred, he said, except for Breitbart's closer to

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream than NPR is. I haven't read breit Bart regularly

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time, but NPR is so far out

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<v Speaker 1>there it's unbelievable. Anyway, here's just some examples, people bringing

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<v Speaker 1>up old tweets or whatever. This is probably the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 1>From a couple of years back. The NPR Public editor

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted out, why haven't you seen any stories from NPR

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<v Speaker 1>about the New York Post? Hunter Biden story read more

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's newsletter, in which he said, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to waste our time on stories that are not

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<v Speaker 1>really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>and readers time on stories that are just pureist actions

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<v Speaker 1>about the Hunter Biden laptop. Nice job, NPR. Here's one

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<v Speaker 1>from NPR. A new pole finds forty percent of respondents

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<v Speaker 1>believe in a baseless conspiracy theory that the coronavirus was

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<v Speaker 1>created in a lab in China. There's zero evidence for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Scientists say the virus was transmitted to humans from another species.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that one, NPR. Oh, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good one that held up well about emojis a while back.

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<v Speaker 1>Some white people may choose to use the yellow thumbs

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<v Speaker 1>up emoji because it feels neutral, but academics argue it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually racist and is trying to get away from your

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<v Speaker 1>white privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>Hows an NPR story. People have no idea how hilarious

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<v Speaker 3>you are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the network that says LATINX Armstrong and Getty