1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian got in the truck and low and 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: behold the gas cages on him. And I said, well, 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: the gas cage must be broken, because nobody would really 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: drop off a vehicle for a running problem with no 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: gas in it, right, I mean, how can people bay 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. When I talked to the owner a 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: short time later, I said, by the way, I guess 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: the gas cages broken. He said no, it works one. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: I said, well, the gas cages on een that says 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: little fuel lights on. He goes, oh, yeah, it's out 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: of gas. You can stop the gas and informed right, yeah, 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: I can do that. I can wash it too if 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: you want. It's just gonna cost you. Welcome to the 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, since 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: in the garage to orders are open. But I am 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five, five, six 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: one nine hundred and now he running. Hey, come on in, 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: sit down, want at any in the car doctor here 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: at five zero nine nine zero zero, here to take 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: your calls, answer your questions, solve your automobile problems, and 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: just chat with you in general about that thing out 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: in the garage or the driveway that keeps you going 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: and gets you back and forth from wherever it is 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: you're traveling. To. Car Doctor phone number, as I said, 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: is eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero, 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: And let me point out that that is the seven 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: car doctor phone number. 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You'll also find some 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: information on our website car Doctor Show dot com and 47 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: you'll see some links there tune in dot com, I 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: heart and iTunes dot com and coming soon to a 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Google web page near you, Google patch dot com. I 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: guess it will be your Google Patches. We put podcasts 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: up there as well. We're just trying to make the 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Radio Show portable and go wherever it is 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: you want us to go, and take us however you 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: want to take us. I always enjoy these kind of repairs. 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: It's it's it's like getting in one with the machine. 56 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: I think about it like that. We had a two 57 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: thousand five gmc Ukon Denali come into the shop this 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: week alt Aria Automotive, and it was a simple enough issue. 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: It was the radiator was leaking. The side tank of 60 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: the radiator was spewing some coolant and it needed a radiator. 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: No big deal. That wrote it up, gave her a quote, 62 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, just hundred sixty thousand mile eleven year old truck, 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: and uh proceeded. She dropped it off the next day 64 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and proceeded to put a radiator in it for April 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and it was nothing outstanding. It was a typical radiator replacement, 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: and it was really kind of rolling along well, you know, 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: and in and out type of operation. Top shroud came off, 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: the engine oil cooler lines got disconnected, the trans oil 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: cooler lines got disconnected. I lifted the radiator out after 70 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: disconnecting the lower radiator hoses. Actually I chopped through them 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: because the hundred and sixty thousand mile truck had original 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: hoses on it, and I thought it would be a 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: good time. Let's put some hoses in there. Let's do 74 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: a thermostat the normal maintenance, the normal stuff. You would 75 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: do this this at this age and mileage. And it's 76 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: a testimony to how good cars have gotten in the 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: fact that it went eleven years with original cooling system 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: components like that. It really was kind of amazing. I 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: noticed it on the install and at first I blamed 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: the new radiator. I took the old one out, and 81 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the old one there were these 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: two rubber pucks or bushings that sit over these little digits. 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's like your fingers sticking down. It was 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: imagine like putting a giant rubber cushion on that and 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: that attaches to the bottom of the radiator and then 86 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: that locks it into the lower panel on the front 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: of the engine compartment to keep the radiator from swinging around. 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's sort of a pad of foot for 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: it to rest on. And I noticed that when I 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: put the new one in. When I put the new 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: one in the left side, you know, kind of clicked 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: in place and it it held steady. The right side 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: was rattling it just you know, thum, thum, thum. And 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's never gonna work. The car is gonna 95 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: go down the road at sixty miles an hour. This 96 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: thing will be vibrating, make a noise, eventually rattle itself 97 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: to death, and you know what's gonna happen here. I 98 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: took it out. I looked at it on the right 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: side of the engine apartment where there was no movement. 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: They were perfectly cylindrical hulls, nice machine, just right. The 101 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: bushing it in there nice and snugg. I took the 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: or bushing out, laid in there. It just fits great. 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and I'm thinking it's the radiator. 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking the radiator is not too not deep enough, 105 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: not something enough. Put the bushing in on the right side, 106 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: right rodd rod rod, raddle rod rattle. How do you 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: like that? I found an eleven year old hundred and 108 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: sixty six thousand mile design floor from General Motors when 109 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: the vehicle was made brand new. How can that be? 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: I looked around. It had the original friend. I'm thinking 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: maybe it was in an accident. Maybe the front floor pan, 112 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: the front floor, the front. Say that seven times fast. 113 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: The front floor pan, front floor pan, front floor pan, front, 114 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: that's enough of that. And but it wasn't. It was original, 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: original vintags on all the body parts, so it had 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: never been in a collision. What are you gonna do? Now? 117 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: I know why I changed the radiator hoses. As it 118 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: turns out, the outside diameter of the radiator hose fit 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: perfect lee and this can't be coincidence, I'm telling you, 120 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: fit perfectly into the hole. So I sliced off a 121 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: section like a quarter inch thick piece of bologny, which 122 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I think this is anyway of of the radiator hose 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the upper host to be exact, and it fit right 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: into the uneven oval slot in the pan. And then 125 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: I said, now I wonder if no, it can't be 126 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: pulled the hose out, put the rubber bushing right in 127 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the middle of it, laid the whole thing right in there, 128 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: put the radiator in no more rattle. You know, you 129 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: sit there and you look at it, and it's you 130 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: say to yourself, are they aware of the mistakes that 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: they make? And it made no sense be And I 132 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: should have taken a picture, but we were in a rush. 133 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: We're trying to get cars done. It was we were 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: very busy this day. It was Wednesday at the shop. 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. The holes on the right were 136 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: perfectly cylindrical. The holes on the left we're oblong. I 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: guess maybe a radiator can shift left or right, or 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: they're they're allowing your production tolerance to to match up 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: to other components. They're giving it some latitude, but the 140 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: dimension for how it sits in that in that hole, 141 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: in that in that with that rubber bushing around it. 142 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: But I have to tell you a General Motors upper 143 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: radiator host is the perfect bushing to wrap around the 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: rubber amount of the lower radiator and it just all 145 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: fit together and it just and it worked, and I 146 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with you. I thought that 147 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: would be interesting, tid. But sometimes some of the things 148 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: you'reun into as you run an order repair shop, as 149 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I have these past forty three years, that you sit 150 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: there and you say, you know, you think you've seen 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: it all. Someday I'm gonna write the book Why you 152 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Can't Get Your Car Fixed, And uh, We're just gonna 153 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: talk about some of these things. It's just another chapter 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: in the book. And sometimes I think I'm not really 155 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: fixing cars. I'm just collecting information to write about my 156 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: old age one of these days when I decided to retire, 157 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: not that I'm planning it anytime soon anyway. Hello and welcome. 158 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I am Ron Andy in the Car Doctor. The phone 159 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: number here is eight five five zero zero zero. The 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: full crew is on board today. I'm happy to say 161 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: everybody is here and they all look bright eyed and 162 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: bushy tailed and ready to go. So let me pull 163 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: over and take a pause, and when the Car Doctor returns, 164 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: we'll kick the garage doors wide open. Stay tuned. I 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: was rising in my state right now. Hey, welcome back. 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: We're on any of the Car Doctor here at eight 167 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. The Car Doctors twenty for seven 168 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: hotline phone number. Give us a call, we'll talk to 169 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: you about your car problem. Let me point out real 170 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: fast before we open the phones and get over there 171 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: and talk to everybody. Is like, get out to the 172 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: Facebook page posted a picture of a break pedal position center. 173 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that. I think next hour a 174 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: little bit, but I want to comment on it and 175 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: just say that we're gonna start to do this more. Uh, 176 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna look for if you're looking for more information, 177 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: if you get out to the Facebook page, we're gonna 178 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: talk about what's there on a regular basis. And I'm 179 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: actually gonna try and coordinate so we do it on YouTube. 180 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: So if you don't have Facebook, you get out to YouTube, 181 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: you can see it on YouTube or Facebook one or 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: the other same information basically, and to try and expand 183 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: and open up on our on our you know, social 184 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: media sites like that, so you guys get more information 185 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: and a clear understanding of what it is we're trying 186 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: to explain and talk about. And always your your comments 187 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: are welcome. Send an email Ron at Car Doctor show 188 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: dot com and we'll be glad to talk about the 189 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: things that you want to hear. Because this is your 190 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: radio show. I just get to talk about it, Harry, 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: how are you today? I'm good? Yeah. Do you have 192 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: a good week? Yeah? Yeah, good, glad to see you're 193 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: up and about in Chipper looking yeah. So, um, who 194 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: do you have for me on the phone? Uh Ron, 195 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: We have Bruce. He's up in Lisbon Falls Main and 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: he wants your opinion. He has a tacoma, but he 197 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: wants your opinion and maybe switching brands and going to 198 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: a RAM truck Blue Baby Baby Bruce. Hi, how are you? 199 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: You're out with the car doctor, sir? How are you today? Good? 200 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: My question is I've had I've had Toyota's for seventeen years. 201 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: I have a six or seven year old tacoma that's 202 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: never literally never been a problem. I like a bigger truck. 203 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I looked at the Rams, but I worry about switching brands. 204 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: And I looked through Consumer Report and it says worse 205 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: than liability, worse than average, and the Dodges with the 206 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Yota is a better Here's my problem. And I think 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: in this case, and I'm not a Consumer Report worts fan, 208 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I think some of their stuff is really cock eyed 209 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: when I read it. But I think I think I 210 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: gotta tell you here's where I think they hit the 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: nail on the head and part of this problem with 212 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Chrysler and I could just say, ah, they're drunk and 213 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: not come up with a reason, but let me try 214 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and explain it. I don't think they're junk. I think 215 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: they're decent vehicles. The problem is number one parts availability, 216 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: Number two, who's gonna fix it and how? And number three, Yes, 217 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: some of their reliability is not as good as it 218 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: once was. I think for anyone to understand Chrysler, and 219 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: by Chrystler, I mean Chrysler, Jeep and so on, you 220 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: have to look at their sales history. In Ford sold 221 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand plus cars. General Motors sold two hundred 222 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: thousand plus cars. Here in the United States, Chrysler sold 223 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: less than two hundred thousand cars. They sold a hundred 224 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: and ninety three thousand cars. You start to look at 225 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: that and you compare that to ten years ago. Ten 226 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: years ago, if I remember my numbers correctly, Christler sold 227 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: double that amount. And my point is Chrysler's numbers are 228 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: going down while everyone else's are. You know, they're gaining 229 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: more market share. Chrystler's losing market share. They're in a 230 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: tail spin. And I'm not saying it's a bad product. 231 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying something's wrong. The ship is being steered 232 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. And whether and I don't, I 233 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: don't want to make this about Chrysler in their history, 234 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: whether it's the Mercedes involvement or you know now the 235 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: Fiat involvement, that doesn't matter to me. My concern is 236 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: a is the company gonna be around long enough? Can 237 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: I get parts for it? I told this story a 238 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: couple of months back. I'll repeat it. I have a friend, 239 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: I have more than a few friends, but the one 240 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: fell I'm thinking of about seven months ago, relate a 241 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: story to me that cheap Grand Cherokee jeep Grand Cherokee 242 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: at the time needed front fenders, same fenders. They didn't 243 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: have any in stock anywhere. Chrysler had to go to 244 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: the factory where they were putting new fenders on fifteens 245 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: and take a bunch of fifteen fenders and put them 246 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: out into the parts distribution line in order for people 247 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: to get body pieces for cars and accidents. I still 248 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: have a customer with a two thousand five dodged Durango 249 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: shift cable. You've heard me talk about this. He's shifting 250 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: this He's shifting this poor vehicle using a pair of 251 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: vice scripts. He's holding the cable in one hand and 252 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: he uses vice scripts to pull the cable in and 253 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: out to find park, reverse drive and so on. This 254 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: part has been on national back order since March of 255 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: last year. How insane is this that we can't we 256 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: can't manufacture something like this? And and you know, it 257 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: always comes back to there's a lot of good vehicles 258 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: out there, Bruce, there really is. But if if, if, 259 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: if the company is going to be negligent in their approach, 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, you can tell me it's over seven years, 261 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: they don't need to make the part great, all right? Uh, 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care if it's over seven years 263 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: and they don't need to make the part. It's in 264 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: my mind they've got to look at the population of 265 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: the vehicle on the road. And I think it's a 266 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: self image thing, you know, it's they're gonna sell more 267 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: cars by fixing that the wrangle problem, because instead of 268 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: giving guys like me negatives to talk about, they could 269 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: give me positives to talk about and say, hey, they 270 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: had a ten year old vehicle, eleven year old vehicle. 271 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: They still make the part. Here's my third problem with Chrysler. 272 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: Chrysler is very very proprietary with their scan tool software, 273 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: meaning at some point it's gonna break and it has 274 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: to go into a repair shop to fix it. Who 275 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: works on your Toyota Bruce, a local guy or the dealer, 276 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: the dealership, Okay, mostly dealership except for maybe an oil chain. 277 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: I'll go to the local guy. Okay, who's gonna work 278 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: on the Dodge? Well Dodge? But you know, I, I 279 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: guess I read things too about the poor service, so 280 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: it's it might it might make you want to find 281 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, a local guy, right, Yeah, that local guy. 282 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: To have Chrysler factory level scan tool capability to have 283 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: that same tool as the dealer is thirty dollars for 284 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: the initial outlay, and I'm seeing conflicting reports. At one 285 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: point it was down to a year. Just yesterday I 286 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: read a report that said they're talking that it's a 287 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: year or thirty a year for the software, So it's 288 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: thirty to buy the tool, and it it seems like 289 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: it's around three thousand dollars a year to maintain the 290 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: software to continue, and all that tool does is work 291 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: on Chrysler jeep products. A repair shop would have to 292 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: work on an awful lot of Chrysler's. And my point 293 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: is that if Chrysler had any common sense about them, 294 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: they would realize that if they make me happy, I'll 295 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: make you happy, and you'll come back and buy another one. Yeah, 296 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: and and not not me as the radio guy, but 297 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: me as the repair shop the technician. All right, Okay, 298 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: I'd probably stay with the Toyota. You know, when I recommend, 299 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: when I recommend vehicles, and I have this conversation all 300 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: the time. I tell people there's five major food groups, Toyota, Honda, 301 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: for GM, Chrysler. I do include Chrysler in the mix, 302 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: all right. And when I say Toyota, I mean Lexus. 303 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: When I say Honda, I mean Accura, all right. You 304 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: know when I say Chrysler, I mean Jeep. Yeah, there's 305 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: something in those food groups. And the reason I say 306 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: that is because those those companies right now are the 307 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: easiest in terms of when it breaks, getting information and repair. 308 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: And there's some others. Hynda is pretty good about it, 309 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: but I don't seem to think of Hundai as much 310 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: as I should. I guess I'll have to expand my 311 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: thinking on that and Keya is okay, But to me, 312 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: Kia is still a five six throwaway car. Five six 313 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: year throwaway car, and you're done. But you know it's 314 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: it's it's just so important to think who's gonna fix 315 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: it versus whether or not it's a good vehicle. That's 316 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: important too. Well, I really appreciate it. Real quick question, 317 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: real quick answer, real quick Uh, what do you think 318 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: of extended warranties paying for him? It depends on price, 319 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: and it depends on you know what kind of coverage. 320 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: If we're talking about that Chrysler, you probably want it 321 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: for a mechanical draw train issue. But if we're talking 322 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: about let's say a Toyota, for example, you're probably more 323 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: interested in having electronics coverage because from what I've seen, 324 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: the Toyota drive trains are sturdier and built better in 325 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: that first hundred thousand miles. As long as it's proper 326 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: care and maintenance, you're not gonna have the issues. Whereas 327 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: the Chrysler, I see things that well, maybe not so much, 328 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: so I'd go for electronics covers. Probably the most important 329 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: takeaway who's gonna fix it? And what sort of deductor 330 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: bull applies? Let us know what you decide, Bruce, I'm 331 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: curious for the answer. I'm on on any in the 332 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'm back right after this coming by said right, 333 00:18:50,840 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: does that thing? Welcome back? Run in the car doctor 334 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: here eight zero nine zero the phone number. Give us 335 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: a call. That number is also seven. If we're not 336 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: on the ear, leave a message fast. Harry or executive 337 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: producer will call you back in line you up for 338 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: the next time we're here and we can have a 339 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: go around on radio. Let's go over and talk to Debbie, 340 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: who's calling in from Virginia with some comments about a 341 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: two thousand to a Susan rodeo. Debbie, I vaguely remember 342 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: this call from quite some time ago. Tell us what's 343 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: going on here? Yes, is something over around two years ago? Um, 344 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: I haven't two thousand two zoo rodeo getting like really 345 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: cold weather. I would started, it would cut off and started, 346 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and I could repeat this as many as twenty times. 347 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: It was finally run and run fine. And I tried 348 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: all the suggestions that you had given me at that 349 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: time with my mechanic, and none of those seemed to 350 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: tan out. Because last year did the same thing well 351 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: during the summer this year, Um, my vehicle. After that, 352 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was really done well, which it did, 353 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: and um, the ignition control module went out of it 354 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: and after that was replaced. During this uh, this path 355 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: the winner we're in now, the cold mornings, the first 356 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: start in the vehicles started fun. So apparently it was 357 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: this ignition control module somehow causing these issues. I would 358 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: have to think that it was affecting ignition as far 359 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: as spark output in creating a weaker spark when it 360 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: was cold then required and causing it to drop out. 361 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: That would be the first thought I'd have. But good, 362 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad it was fixed. Well. I just thought maybe 363 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: someone else out there might experience this problem and that 364 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: would be something you could get them to check into. 365 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: I'll keep it. I'll keep it in my bag of 366 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: tricks in the back of my head. Mike. Mike, question 367 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: to you is where do you ever find the part? 368 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: They found it? I don't know. Um, it was found 369 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: and they replaced it in the vehicle runs time. That 370 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: was several months ago, and it's got two and thirty 371 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: two thousand miles on it. And like I always say, 372 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: by something you like because when it breaks, you don't 373 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: mind fixing it. Right right, well, and it's been unfamiliar 374 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: with it. And in my job, I need to go 375 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: whenever we've got two or three feet of snow on 376 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the ground, and it's always been dependable for that, and 377 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: so I hang with it. Yep, I get it. I 378 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: get it. Well, listen to that. I appreciate all your suggestions, 379 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: but you know, it just wasn't the right thing in 380 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: this particular instance. Um, I just thought I would give 381 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: you that so that you could keep that in mind 382 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: for someone else that they have this problem. Well, and 383 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate that and for the you know, and and 384 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: as long as it worked out in the end, and 385 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: that's that's really what we're about here. So I thank you, Debbie, 386 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: and you go have yourself a good rest of the 387 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: day and keep us in mind should you need anything else. 388 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Let's get on over the line. One. Talk to David. David. 389 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: You're on with the car doctor, Sir. How can I help? Yeah? 390 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: How you doing? What's going on? Dave? I got a question? 391 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: We gotting warranties. I've got uh college age kids and 392 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: while one's going to college and they'll be driving on 393 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: the road for you know, two hours to get there, 394 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure they get a car 395 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: that's reliable. So I can't buy a new car, but 396 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe a car that is I'll be the second owner 397 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: would be something that we could buy. What kind of 398 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: warranties are still left on the vehicles if they have 399 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: low mileage and they're still within the time carrier. It 400 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: really depends on what it is you're buying, Dave and 401 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: how Sometimes the dealers will sell you know, certified used 402 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: cars for example. For example, Uh and I, we just 403 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: went through this in the last three weeks. Someone came 404 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: into the shop. They brought us a twenty ten and 405 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Ford Fusion sixty two miles on the car did not 406 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: have any warranty coverage. The warranty ran out at sixty 407 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: thousand miles, so they, at my suggestion, they ended up 408 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: purchasing the car. It was a good car. We checked 409 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: it out, we did a we did it, we we 410 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: scanned it for codes, we did a physical check, we 411 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: road tested it, we looked it over for recalls and 412 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: bulletins things like that. Gave it a physical and they 413 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: bought the car and for an additional fift dollars they 414 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: purchased a Ford warranty, meaning it can be worked on 415 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: at a Ford dealer. The the the owner is going 416 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: to school in California, a little sort of the same 417 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: thing a little further, you know, New Jersey to California. UM. 418 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I said, when you get out there, 419 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: I want you to be able to go wherever you can. 420 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: But there was no allowance for anyone outside of a 421 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: Ford dealership to work on it. But that was his choice. 422 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: And I get that we had somebody else. We had 423 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: somebody else purchase a twenty thirteen Ford Fusion with forty 424 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: four thousand miles on it just two days ago, and 425 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: that car still had roughly fifteen thousand miles worth of 426 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: power train coverage up to sixty and I believe for 427 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: twelve they purchased power train and electronics coverage up to 428 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand miles. Now, so you know, now was 429 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: a certified used car. The ten was not was not. 430 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: So you know, that certified car thing comes comes into 431 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: play here. And I what I what I typically find 432 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: is they have a time limit. I think it's and 433 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: again it will vary. Three or four years old has 434 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: a chance of being certified, whereas that is a little older, 435 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: and they're looking for you to put a warrant on it. Oh, 436 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: I see now it was I'm interested my GOALLEXTA, kiad 437 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: focus and then to three. But I know that the 438 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: KEYA they had that ten year, ten one hundred tho 439 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: miles warrantee. Is that transfer to another owner or do 440 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I get less coverage? I that I don't know. And 441 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: my concern with the key of the you know, these 442 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: these almighty all covering warranties, if you read the fine print, 443 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: my experience has been, and I'll say it like that, 444 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: my experience has been that if you read the fine print, 445 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: it's all about, yes, we'll give you a ten year, 446 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: one thousand mile warranty, but the onus is on you 447 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: to prove maintenance. Oh so yeah, you got your best 448 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: to bring it to the dealer right, and you know 449 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: what about whether or not you had the maintenance right? 450 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: Which part of this is And you know, let's face it, 451 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: it's marketing. Kia wants kid of dealers to work on 452 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: the cars. And I get that that's what makes America 453 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: what it is. We're all entrepreneurs. But you know, if 454 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: if you're a good bookkeeper and you keep tracking your 455 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: records and you keep your invoices, you can go anywhere 456 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: you want. Now as far as does that does that transfer, 457 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. So the next question would be, you know, 458 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: go out and find a three year old, four year 459 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: old Kia with sixty thousand miles on it, asked them, 460 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: is there any warranty coverage still left on this? Right? 461 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: That's what we'll probably do. And because we you know, 462 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: we've seen them as low as twenty five miles of 463 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: are you know it's got to be still under some 464 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: kind of warrant? Sure? Absolutely? And then I think I 465 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: think the new kind of warranty that I'm starting to 466 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: see used more and more in the last two years 467 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: is an electronics policy, and a lot of manufacturers are 468 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: putting you know, engines and transmissions with proper care and 469 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: maintenance will last a hundred thousand miles without even trying hard. 470 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: But the electronics are is where the money is now, 471 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're that expensive item on the ticket, 472 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: and you can purchase just an electronics coverage. So you 473 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: might have a warranty policy that covers the engine or 474 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: the trans up to a hundred thousand miles, but you 475 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: might be able to purchase for whatever the dollars are 476 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: depending upon the car and electronics coverage. If if the 477 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: the h you know, dave the amount of electronics on 478 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: these cars, the h v A C control head goes 479 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: out on some ours. It's eleven to fix the heart, 480 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, so it gets to be kind of expensive, 481 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: all right, sir, All right, well, thank you very much, 482 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: thank you, You're very welcome. You have a good rest 483 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: of the day, and thanks for tuning to sit down 484 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: there fort Worth, Texas way. I'm running any in the 485 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Guard Doctor. We are back right after this. Ru feel much. Hi, 486 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: it's turning through my soul. Welcome back ring of the 487 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: Guard Doctor. Here zero nine zero zero The Car Doctor 488 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: seven toll free hotline phone number. Give us a call, 489 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: leave a message if we're not on the air, as 490 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: that message services there all the time and fast. Harry 491 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: or executive producer will call you back and put you 492 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: in the lineup for the next time we are alive 493 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: on the air of the following week. Let's get over 494 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: and talk to Joe from Long Island, New York. Some 495 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: questions and comments about Camaro's Joe. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, 496 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: Hello Ron, how are you good? Joe? What's going on. 497 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: I was telling Harry that I um done to my 498 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: second childhood and back in the day, I had a 499 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Chevy Camaro. And now you know, I'm looking to purchase 500 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: another car, but my funds are limited. Um, and I 501 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about buying a third generation Camaro again, or 502 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: maybe a fourth generation because it's more, um, you know, 503 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: more recent and newer. Every day car Joe Row on 504 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: weekend car. Um just funny, Um, you know, sunny days 505 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: basically you know, Um, when I'm driving to work on 506 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: my own, is it is the car for you or 507 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: your kids? Oh? Um? I was thinking about the fix 508 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: ability factor, like I know the fourth gen cause are 509 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: more computerized, and that would be an increased expense in 510 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: fixing it. Yep. And um, you know you know, our 511 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: our second third gens the cheaper. Are your are your 512 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: kids of car driving age or they approaching that age? No, 513 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: they're young, they're little guys, have plenty of time. You know. 514 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I favor the third gen over over 515 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: the fourth only because the cost factor, They're going to 516 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: be cheaper. And if your funds are low, you're you know, 517 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: And again depends on what really comes up, you know, 518 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: the market changes every day. You know, I would favor 519 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: the third gen first because they were produced from eight 520 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: one through nine two or ninety three, I forget exactly, 521 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: but there's there's there's so many more of them out 522 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: there that you know, numbers alone are just going to 523 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: drive the price down. And you know, it's also a 524 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: personal preference. Those third gen's, the early third gens were 525 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: much more mechanical cars. Then later on when they you know, 526 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: the the advent of the computer made them more and 527 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: more electronic, um, you know, as comparison. So right, that's 528 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: what that was my fear, you know, because not that 529 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm a mechanic, but I wouldn't mind digging into you know, 530 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: older cars, but when the newer ones are more difficult, right, 531 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's maybe it's a project. Maybe 532 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: it's by a cheaper V six and replaced the V 533 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: six with an eight, And you know, build the car 534 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: your way, and you know, and it depends on what 535 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: your what your preferences. It's you've also got to be practical. 536 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: I've learned this the hard way too, as I'm sure 537 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: you have, Joe. It's how much spare time do you 538 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: have and how much time you're really gonna put in it. 539 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: And you know, if I had to build the fifty 540 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: five all over again, well, if I had to build 541 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: the fifty five all over again, I build it with 542 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: my check book. Probably i'd go out and look because 543 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, it's the problem is you 544 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: just can't find it built the way you want. So 545 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: that's what makes you want to build the car and 546 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: put it together on your own. But you know, as 547 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: nice as those nights were at the shop after hours, 548 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: it was, it was three years. It took an awful 549 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: lot to make it the way I wanted it to be. 550 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: And um, you've got away there. Yeah, you know. I 551 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: mean you've got young kids, right, there's nothing like that 552 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: being home from once of those kids grow up, right, 553 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: So it's better to get something that I can just 554 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: buy and drive than to have to mess around with Yeah, 555 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: I think so. And then and then you know what, 556 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: and the reason I asked about the age of your kids. 557 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: I think cars can be a real positive influence in 558 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: a young person's life. I really do. I think I 559 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: think cars fill a very big emotional need if they're 560 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: portrayed properly, and they helped teach people responsibility and and 561 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of other things. And you know, if you 562 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: get the car and you put it together, you can 563 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: teach your kids how to wash it clean and take 564 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: pride in ownership. And um, I can almost guarantee if 565 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: they if they catch on the bug, they'll turn out 566 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: to be better people overall, if you know what I'm saying. 567 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: And I think that's a big plus. So I think 568 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: that's a big place, all right. Joe, Hey, listen, send 569 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: us a picture when you buy something. Let us know 570 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: what you end up doing. Send me an email Ron 571 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: at Card Doctor show dot com, or send us a 572 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: message on our Facebook page. Run any in the Car Doctor. 573 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: We'd love to see what you end up with. All right, 574 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, good luck to you and happy hunting. I'm 575 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: running any in the car Doctor. We are back right 576 00:32:50,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. We're on the knee of the 577 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: Card Doctor. Let's real quick get over and talk to 578 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: Frank in Congress, New York. Some questions about basic maintenance. Frank, 579 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: welcome to the Card Doctor. Hey, how are you doing good? 580 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: I just I'll run and do jumped into the thro 581 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: the radio and quick and uh, just some basic things 582 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: that helps out that I find I got about five 583 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: cars between my son and my wife and a little lecture. 584 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: When we keep coquicly used for travel, I find a 585 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: change in the oil. Uh. Changing the air filter, cabin filter, 586 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: if you have one basic maintenance can go a long way. 587 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: But every time you know, you go to change the oil, 588 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: they talk about, you know, when should you change the oil? 589 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: Did every turnamount of mouth? Does it depend on the 590 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: year of the car? Uh? Does it? It's if the 591 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: car sits, does the you know? I I tell you, Frank, 592 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: this is how I've I've answered this question and I 593 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: don't mind answering it again at all. If you got 594 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: in the car in New Jersey, warmed it up and 595 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: drove to California fifty five and never shut it off 596 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: on a on a modern day car, something built in 597 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: the last five years and maybe even further back, that 598 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: oil would probably last eight to ten miles. It would 599 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: just stay that clean. It's it's a constant temperature, constant 600 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: load with no change. What what kills oil, and I'm 601 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: talking is synthetic. What kills oil is the stop and 602 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: go is the the the constant start and stop is 603 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: to shut it off. Cool down is the heat up 604 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: is the change and engine load, the change in how 605 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: that vehicle is used. So when I explained for an 606 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: oil drain interval, I'm talking general dynamics that are safe. 607 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Most synthetics on the market today five to six thousand 608 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: miles and you're well within the limits of the filter, 609 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: and most well, don't think about that. Oil filters unless 610 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: it's a special heavy duty filter a better place and 611 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: you should be using a better piece anyway. Uh. In 612 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: terms of an oil filter, we don't talk about that. 613 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: A lot um you know, I got a call that 614 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: I got covered, I got two would explore that I 615 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: use I haven't you know, I'll put the cover on 616 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: it and it will fit and I might take you 617 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: for I use it for long trip. Uh. I would 618 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: probably be using synthetic in that Frank, and I'd be 619 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: changing the oil every six months, regardless of how much 620 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: I drive it, because that synthetic is going to be 621 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: susceptible to condensation and it's gonna break down over time 622 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: and it becomes an issue. And the fact is that 623 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: two thousand one explore what are you better off changing 624 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: the oil or an engine or an engine component? Something 625 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: to think about. Always go for the pocket book. I'm 626 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: running any in the car. Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 627 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: they're priceless see U