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Speaker 2: Drove down Field Open Touchdown Hawks broadcasting live from Bellevue

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Speaker 3: Here's your host's Michael Buffers.

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Speaker 5: No Paul Moyer today, but we got the next best thing.

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Speaker 5: You know it, Big Ray. Robberts joined it. Let's give

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Speaker 5: it up a big Ray.

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Speaker 4: We got a special treat for you guys for about

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Speaker 4: three to five minutes away.

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Speaker 5: You got Elijah Arroyal who's gonna join us today.

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Speaker 4: Had a big, big cash during this game, our last

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Speaker 4: week's game of thirty two yard catch, Big Ray.

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Speaker 5: What's stood out to you from last game?

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Speaker 6: You know what?

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Speaker 7: I really liked the pass protection that the offensive line

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Speaker 7: had for Sam who tho he dropped a couple of

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Speaker 7: dimes with a lot of space around him. And I

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Speaker 7: just like the intensity that at the offensive line. And

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Speaker 7: then on the other side of the ball, the defensive

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Speaker 7: front has to be one of the top five defensive

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Speaker 7: fronts in the league, they get lots of pressure. Thing

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Speaker 7: to have what six sacs or something like that, and

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Speaker 7: Big Big Cat and Murphy are looking like a nice

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Speaker 7: little one two combo and the guys on the edge

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Speaker 7: of really getting out to the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love I love that the Hearts are able

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Speaker 4: to get pressure just rushing four yeah, and sometimes sending five,

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Speaker 4: but nothing overwhelming. And uh and when you're able to

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Speaker 4: do that, you're able to drop more guys in the converse.

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Speaker 4: That should help the past game as well. Your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on on Sam Darnold man, I might you know that

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Speaker 4: was the biggest question easy for real?

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Speaker 5: Can he do this? I think four games in, I'm

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Speaker 5: drinking a kool aid.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I think I'm drinking a kool aid. But

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Speaker 7: I mentioned earlier or sometime last week. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: I was a little bit hesitant, like you know when

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Speaker 7: they first signed him, and it wasn't really you know,

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Speaker 7: sold on it. But I'm buying into him more. And

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Speaker 7: like the way I explained it is, you know, if

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Speaker 7: I was dating Sam, I'm not quite ready to move

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Speaker 7: in yet, okay, but I may stay over at the

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Speaker 7: crib for like a couple of nights over there. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you're like, you know, I might leave a tooth brush

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Speaker 7: over there, so but I haven't quite moved in yet.

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Speaker 7: But I'm but uh, but the dude has been playing

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Speaker 7: really good football, super composed, you know, dropping dimes. He's

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Speaker 7: putting the ball where only his guys can catch him

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Speaker 7: in some really tight spots. Hasn't looked panicked at all.

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Speaker 7: Seems like he has command of the offense. And from

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Speaker 7: everything you hear, he's a really cool dude, you know,

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Speaker 7: as it you know, in the locker room, off the field,

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Speaker 7: that kind of stuff. Yeah, one hundred percent. And I

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Speaker 7: always go to you when it comes to this conversation.

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Speaker 7: We probably we had this conversation already other today on

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Speaker 7: the Buff and Stacey Show. But just talk about this

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Speaker 7: run game. What you like, which you don't like what

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Speaker 7: they're committed to it, you know. And uh and the

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Speaker 7: other part is it looks like the offensive line is

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Speaker 7: And so that means something. So you know there was

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Speaker 7: thirty carries or something where they were either zero to

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Speaker 7: nuance in it for offensive line and to learn how

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Speaker 7: to do it. But if you look at some of

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Speaker 7: And then, like we talked about in the pregame last week,

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Speaker 7: the offensive line may not have I mean, the run

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Speaker 7: impacting the passing game. That's how they're able to push

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Speaker 7: One of the great plays last week was Sam Donald's

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Speaker 7: And so the running game isn't having the raw numbers

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Speaker 7: super consistent, but it's having an impact on the offense.

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Speaker 7: On the offense in general, and to me.

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Speaker 4: In the passing game is having an impact because backers

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Speaker 4: aren't just dropping their respecting the run. You're still running

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Speaker 4: the football, making them have to read their cues or whatnot.

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Speaker 4: What does that do for an offensive lineman when the

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Speaker 7: Well, the thing that helps is that I've said this forever,

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Speaker 7: is that the play call and play design is also

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Speaker 7: a part of offensive line development and pass protection. So

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Speaker 7: for the last two or three years leading up to now,

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Speaker 7: especially the tackles, they were just dropping back to the

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Speaker 7: same spot every time in pass protection. And so then

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Speaker 7: if you're a defensive lineman, you can plan your pass rush.

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Speaker 7: You know on your third step where they're going to be,

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Speaker 7: so you can go inside white pants, do all the

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Speaker 7: things that you want to do. But when you're able

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Speaker 7: to then run the ball, show play action pass, you know,

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Speaker 7: the run and the pass look the same. Sometimes those

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Speaker 7: are other weapons in your toolbox that you can do

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Speaker 5: Offensive lineman for pass protection.

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Speaker 7: And so that's the reason why the impact of just

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Speaker 7: making them They're making it pay off in the passing

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Speaker 5: Pass protection.

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Speaker 7: The defensive line is thinking more and not just being

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Speaker 7: So that is a way that you can develop an

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Speaker 7: offensive line without having every You're not going to have

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Speaker 7: five Pro Bowlers. You may have one. You know, even

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Speaker 7: the best offensive lines maybe have two. So you have

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Speaker 7: to be able to develop everyone else with play design

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Pro Bowls, man, I think offensive line the

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Speaker 4: fans should not vote on offs, right because most no

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Speaker 4: disrespect to the fans, but most people just don't really

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Speaker 4: watch hours of film and I still hit you up

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Speaker 4: and ask in your opinion or whatnot, and everyone doesn't

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, sometimes people just aren't comfortable knowing what

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Speaker 7: they don't know. You know, and every with everyone, with

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Speaker 7: all the podcasts and things and all the information, everybody

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Speaker 7: wants to think they know, but offensive line, to me

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Speaker 7: is probably one of the most misunderstood positions in any

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Speaker 7: sport because people think it's just big guys and the

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Speaker 7: strongest person wins. But they don't understand the footwork, the leverage,

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Speaker 7: the athleticism that it takes. The pad level. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's only you're playing against some of the best athletes

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Speaker 7: you're going backwards, right, Like, that's a different skill than

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Speaker 7: just being able to run the four three forty that

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Speaker 5: I encourage people, man, learn the offensive lineman game. It

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Speaker 5: will change the way you.

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Speaker 4: Look at football. Offensive line the defense line. They control

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Speaker 4: the game. Right, let's talk about the team we have here.

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Speaker 4: This defense is pretty dang good, right, They ran six

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Speaker 4: against the run and tied for second in points allowed

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Speaker 5: What do you like about the Seahawks defense?

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Speaker 7: The thing I like is that you know, about this

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Speaker 7: time last year, the big conversation was the people weren't

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Speaker 7: fitting where they're supposed to fit. Maybe you're trying to

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Speaker 7: play the A and the B gap when you're supposed

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Speaker 7: to be in the A gap. But remember Big Kat

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Speaker 7: kind of explained it and was saying that he was

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Speaker 7: probably one of the violators of you know, trying to play,

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Speaker 7: trying to do too much. We haven't heard any of

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Speaker 7: last year, and it's carried over to this year. That

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Speaker 7: means that people have really internalized the defense. They know

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Speaker 7: where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there,

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Speaker 7: so then you can play fast. And that's how they're

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Speaker 7: playing there, the rally to the ball, they're making sure tackles.

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Speaker 7: The secondary, I mean, you have backups to the backups

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Speaker 7: and making plays, and so that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 7: If you if you understand what you're supposed to be

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Speaker 7: can play at a tempo and a speed that's different

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Speaker 7: like we had Cliff April and Michael Bennett on last

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Speaker 7: week at the pregame made a twelve man flag razer

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Speaker 7: and he was saying, you got to sacrifice yourself for

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Speaker 7: another guy to make a play.

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Speaker 5: This defense is all of that. Defense is all of that.

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Speaker 4: And right now we are joined by a young man

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Speaker 4: who was a four star prospect.

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Speaker 5: It was a number four ranked tight end nationally.

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Speaker 4: He chose Miami over am Asu, Auburn, Georgia, Illinois all

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Speaker 4: of that. He took his talents to to Miami, started

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Speaker 4: all thirteen games and earned second team All A c C.

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Speaker 4: He ranked fifth in the team and catches with thirty five.

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Speaker 4: You guys, give it up for tight end, Elijah or Royal?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 7: We're doing?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 5: That's to meet you many man. You're you're a fascinating story.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: If people dig long enough or deep enough, they'll they'll

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Speaker 4: find out that you moved to Mexico when you were

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Speaker 4: a kid and you learned football like via Spanish. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what was that transition, like like learning football and Spanish

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Speaker 4: and then and then kind of using your talents learning

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really crazy seeing how like you know, it's

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Speaker 8: just football, Like it's the same sport. Coming back to

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Speaker 8: the States, and you know, relearning everything in English and

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Speaker 8: like it wasn't really hard to pick up.

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Speaker 5: My kids.

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Speaker 4: So my kids are half Mexican and they played soccer.

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Speaker 4: I know, they tried to get you on the soccer

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Speaker 4: field at some point.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 8: I played a little bit of goalie growing up because

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Speaker 8: all my friends played soccer. But yeah, just I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: just say I was a better football player.

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Speaker 6: I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 7: So, what what was your transition to the tight end spot? Like,

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Speaker 7: And you know, it seems like everybody starts somewhere and

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Speaker 7: they end up in a spot differently. I started out

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Speaker 7: on the defensive line, ended up on the offensive line.

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Speaker 7: What was your journey to the tight end spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: You know, the tight end spot.

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Speaker 7: Especially in the last few years with George Kittle and

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Speaker 7: But it's also like the guys that kind of you know,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would like to say I'm my own player.

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Speaker 8: But there's definitely a lot of guys that I watched.

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Speaker 5: All right, so two part question. He had a big

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Speaker 4: Nothing was there, so you kind of drift a little

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Speaker 5: One. That's your biggest pay of your career so far.

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Speaker 7: What was that like?

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Speaker 5: And too, what what was the celebration If y'all don't

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Speaker 8: Hey, if you know, you know, I'm about to do

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Speaker 5: I was hyped up when it happened. Yeah, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: How do you how do you feel like this offense

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Speaker 4: Because obviously the first week didn't have the most success,

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Speaker 5: What are you seeing?

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Speaker 8: Same thing? Just improvement every week. That's just the mentality

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Speaker 7: So you you know when you're getting drafted there there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of video of you, like spreading out wide,

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Speaker 5: You could be like this big wide receiver.

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Speaker 7: Where where is it on the field that you like

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Speaker 8: Like where do you feel like anywhere anywhere? I feel comfortable?

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Speaker 8: Anywhere on the field, put me in the backfield, put

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Speaker 5: I feel you.

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Speaker 4: So you got to play with cam Ward? He went

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Speaker 5: What's he like? Man?

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Speaker 4: Because everything you hear about him is that he was

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Speaker 8: What was the like playing with cam That's exactly what

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Speaker 8: he is, just the ultimate leader, elite competitor. He just

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Speaker 7: If you're I know, coming here, I didn't know this

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Speaker 7: thing about you learning football in Spanish. So that's a

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Speaker 7: find interesting? You don't have to, like, you know, put

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Speaker 7: your little celebration secrets out of Oh, I don't know

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Speaker 7: you have a favorite food, favorite music? Oh I am

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Speaker 7: I'm a big foodie. Okay, I'm into foods. So if

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Speaker 7: You've been to.

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Speaker 5: A tariarchy spot out here yet, Tariokee, I mean it

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Speaker 4: I think they're closed on Sundays, right, Sundays. They're closed

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Speaker 5: Something like that.

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Speaker 4: You'll get something nice, some nice. So what are you

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Speaker 4: looking forward this week? You got the Bucks coming into town.

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Speaker 4: They're they're three and one. You guys are three one.

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Speaker 5: What do you see?

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Speaker 8: Uh, you know that's it's a great team that we're

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Speaker 5: Well, what do you think about You said you like

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Speaker 5: I mean you and aj Or a heck of a

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Speaker 8: I feel like, uh, you know, in the future we

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Speaker 7: So what is the tight end room like though? Who's

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So, you know, most tight ends we're pretty laid back guys.

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Speaker 4: As you you probably know, right the three states we

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Speaker 4: I'm from Cali, but I ain't on front like Texas

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Speaker 5: What was it like playing high school ball out there?

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Speaker 5: It was different.

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Speaker 8: First of all, I don't even think Cali football.

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Speaker 5: Who's a number one team in the country right now?

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Speaker 5: Who number one? Talk to me?

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Speaker 8: Y'all probably got about three powerhouses and there are private

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Speaker 4: Now we got a public got a public in there too. Man,

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Speaker 4: Sorry anyway, man, look back to Texas football. Man, don't

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Speaker 4: that's all right, we'll take it. Y'all got the powerhouses.

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Speaker 5: But other than that, he he spoken like a real

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Speaker 5: Texans man. It can't get no love to call. I'm

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 8: It was kind of weird going from Mexico and being

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Speaker 7: Well, the Miami Florida State rivalry is kicking off again.

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Speaker 7: Yea this weekend we did we I played at Virginia,

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Speaker 5: What was what were those games like?

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Speaker 7: It's it's really hard. I mean back in the day,

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Speaker 5: What is that rivalry like in in Miami or in Florida.

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Speaker 8: Man, it's like no other just the whole week leading

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Speaker 6: That's what.

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Speaker 8: If we're playing away, you know they're gonna be playing

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Speaker 5: But you know, it's it's a really fun week. Especially

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Speaker 5: Like it's a different culture, man. So you know, get

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, for sure, I'm ready. He throw me anywhere

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I feel you well.

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Speaker 7: I mean, since you've been here in Seattle, what are

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Speaker 8: Where else did I go? I'll be hitting the food spots,

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Speaker 5: You feel me. Yeah, what do you like about Pike Place?

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Speaker 7: What I mean all the new waterfront part of it

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Speaker 5: Did you like anything about that? The vibe? Did you

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 8: Nah, I didn't do all that, but the vibe was

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Speaker 5: You know, my first month out here.

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Speaker 7: Have you gone on a ferry ride yet?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 8: I haven't got to do that. Yeah, I'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Has your family been up here to visit?

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 5: What do they think of it?

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Speaker 8: They love it out here. It's just it's kind of

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Speaker 8: far from them, but they make it happen, and you

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Speaker 8: know when they're here, they love it.

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Speaker 5: It's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate your time. Man, it was a Thursday. It's

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Speaker 5: not convenient.

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Speaker 4: You're getting ready for the game this weekend, so as always, man,

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Speaker 4: give it a one more time or Eliza Royal All right,

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Speaker 4: when we get back, we got more to do here

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Speaker 4: on Hawkslive, You Guys Don't.

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Speaker 4: for Bevy Square Center Courts. We got a nice quick

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Speaker 4: segment for you because our conversation with Elijah was so good.

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Speaker 5: What'd you take from that combo.

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Speaker 6: Big Ray?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 7: He was the epitome of what Mike McDonald said that

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Speaker 7: they were looking for before the draft.

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Speaker 5: They were looking for guys that love to play football.

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Speaker 7: And if you listen to most of his answers, they

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Speaker 7: were pretty much focused on his love of football, even

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Speaker 7: to where he said he would play tight end, receiver,

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Speaker 7: full back, left guard. So when he threw in the

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Speaker 7: left guard, I'm like, this is a dude that loves

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Speaker 7: to play football.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir.

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Speaker 4: He seemed like a guy who was calmly intents. At

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Speaker 4: the same time, right, I could see him turning up

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Speaker 4: on a football field and in talking talking. I think

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Speaker 4: I saw him talking to him and Josh schwetz Sweat

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Speaker 4: going back and forth at some point on how important

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Speaker 4: our tight ends, said to this football team.

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Speaker 7: Well, to me, they're the glue to the to the offense.

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Speaker 7: I think the more they start to incorporate the tight end,

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Speaker 7: the more that the offense will open up, because some

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Speaker 7: of those short passes are like running plays. You can

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Speaker 7: get those four or five yard passes. Now you're working

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Speaker 7: at second and medium versus you know, for you know,

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Speaker 7: second and eight to ten or something like that. So

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Speaker 7: I think they are gonna be a big part of

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Speaker 7: the offense. And as the running game is coming along,

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Speaker 7: I think you have to use those short intermediate crossing

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Speaker 7: routes to the tight end to kind of accommodate for

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Speaker 7: the lack of yaders in the run game.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, as promise we had a quick segment, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 4: that's it right there, Big Ray. All right, when we

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Speaker 4: come back, we'll be joined by Jenna Lane from ESPN

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Speaker 4: dot com.

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Speaker 5: That's next right here on Hawk's lot.

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Speaker 1: Back to more of Hawks Live. Appreciate I did by

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Speaker 1: the Dining District. That's a Bellevue Collection broadcasting live from

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Michael Bumpish.

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Speaker 5: Along with Big Ray Roberts.

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Speaker 4: This is Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District at

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Speaker 4: the Bellvy Collection, every Thursday at seven right here in

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Speaker 4: Sattle Sports seven to ten, broadcasting live from Belvy Square

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Speaker 4: Center Court. We are joined now by ESPN dot Com.

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Speaker 4: Jenna Lane, Jenna, how are you doing?

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Speaker 10: Doing great? Always awesome with these two teams square off.

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Speaker 10: I think back to my first trip to Seattle in

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Speaker 10: twenty nineteen and what an awesome game that was, and

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Speaker 10: then that game in Germany and Munich, just both times

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Speaker 10: it's just been so awesome, So definitely looking forward to

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Speaker 10: this one. How are you guys doing today?

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Speaker 5: We're good, It's been great.

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Speaker 4: I was doing a Seahawks podcast earlier and both teams

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Speaker 4: entered the league the same year, and on the fiftieth

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Speaker 4: year of their existence, they're coming back together and wearing

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Speaker 4: these awesome uniforms that I think are the best in

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Speaker 4: the game right now. But my first question is injuries. Man,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot going on with the Bucks Jenna, what

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Speaker 4: can you tell me?

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Speaker 10: Gosh, you aren't kidding. I mean, I'm even among the injured.

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Speaker 10: But we won't worry about that though. But yes, Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 10: I think is the big one that everybody's been asking about.

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Speaker 10: He didn't even participate in yesterday's walkthrough because not only

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Speaker 10: is he dealing with a bicep injury to his right

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Speaker 10: throwing arm, but now he's got a knee injury. So

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Speaker 10: he didn't participate in yesterday's walk through, which the whole

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Speaker 10: reason coach Todd Bowles even had to walk through is because,

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Speaker 10: as he put it, there were more guys that were

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Speaker 10: injured there were that could actually practice. So for Mayfield,

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Speaker 10: he was able to return to today's practice. That was

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Speaker 10: certainly a positive. But you know, I mean, Bucky Irving

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Speaker 10: still hasn't been able to practice. He's one of the

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Speaker 10: toughest players I've honestly ever seen. He maybe just a

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Speaker 10: few inches taller than me, but that guy's as tough

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Speaker 10: as can be. But you know, I really think, and

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Speaker 10: this is certainly something that the Seahawks know well. When

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Speaker 10: you have injuries and then you combine that with cross

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Speaker 10: country flights, that really changes the game. Completely, and so

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Speaker 10: that's something i'd really look I'd really look out for.

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Speaker 10: You know, they did have some positive news along the

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Speaker 10: defensive line, and that Greg Gaines, the guy who you

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Speaker 10: guys are familiar with in your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 10: Lots of you players on this team, by the way,

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Speaker 10: there's there's four of them, and that's not even including

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Speaker 10: Jalen McMillan, who's on ir most in the NFL of

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Speaker 10: any team. You know, he was able to practice. That's

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Speaker 10: that was encouraging because already, you know, they've they've lost

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Speaker 10: guys to their defensive line, which is such a big

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Speaker 10: part of what Todd Bowles does with them. They already

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Speaker 10: lost Elijah Cansey for the season with a torn pactoral muscle.

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Speaker 10: But the cornerbacks, that's another concern. And two out of

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Speaker 10: their three starters they've got a rotation going there. Jamelan

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Speaker 10: and Benjamin Morrison both still haven't been practicing. And anytime

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Speaker 10: you got soft tissue injuries at corner that that's usually not.

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Speaker 6: A good Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to talk a little bit about Tristan Worth

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Speaker 7: last he came into the league and played right tackle,

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Speaker 7: and then it was kind of like a blurb on

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Speaker 7: but when they moved into left tackle, he said that

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Speaker 7: he had like some anxiety around that, and I think

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Speaker 7: he went spoke with like a sports psychologist and this

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Speaker 7: me as a really interesting story. And obviously he's a

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Speaker 7: great football player and he's back on the field last week,

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Speaker 7: but how is he, you know, dealing in that role,

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Speaker 7: like how he's been playing, And then has he spoken

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Speaker 5: Right to left?

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Speaker 10: You know, I thought that that was huge for him

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Speaker 10: to do that because I still think that there's a

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Speaker 10: stigma associated with with men seeking mental health treatment, but

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Speaker 10: also professional athletes. And when you look at Tristan works,

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Speaker 10: he is such a imposing players. He's one of the

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Speaker 10: most physically imposing players I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 10: I mean, his squads are bigger than my torso and

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Speaker 10: you know, he's a guy that had immediate success. I

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Speaker 10: mean went to the Super Bowl as a rookie, made

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Speaker 10: it to the Pro Bowl his second year, first player

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Speaker 10: in NFL history to be an All Pro at a

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Speaker 10: first team All Pro at right tackle and then at

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Speaker 10: left tackle. For him to open up about having these struggles,

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Speaker 10: that means that virtually anybody could have these types of challenges.

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Speaker 10: This needs to be out in the open, obviously. You know,

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Speaker 10: if players want to keep it private, that's fine, but

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Speaker 10: there's no shame in it. And he's very open about that.

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Speaker 10: He's still, i think, talked with the team psychologist once

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Speaker 10: a week. I think that's a big part of his game.

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Speaker 10: And you know, I'll go back to Russell Wilson, and

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Speaker 10: like he was one of the first guys in the

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Speaker 10: league to really talk about that. He talks all the

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Speaker 10: time about his mental coach, Trevor Malady, he rest in Peace,

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Speaker 10: and just how much that was a part of his game,

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Speaker 10: and not just the physical part of it, but how

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Speaker 10: important that was to have a mental coach, a dedicated

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Speaker 10: mental coach for him. But you know, I think Tristan

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Speaker 10: is doing really, really well. I think he's got a

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Speaker 10: great sense of balance in his life right now.

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Speaker 5: Too.

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Speaker 10: He has a son that's a year and a half old,

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Speaker 10: and you know, I Buddy was a really good spirit

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Speaker 10: despite the fact that you know, he couldn't be out

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Speaker 10: there with his team to start the season. He had

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Speaker 10: a knee injury that you know, all off season he

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Speaker 10: was dealing with pain and he continued to kind of

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Speaker 10: work out the same way he would and he would

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Speaker 10: go and get MRIs. They couldn't find anything. Well, finally

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Speaker 10: they did, but he had to undergo surgery in July,

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Speaker 10: so it meant he couldn't participate in all of training camp.

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Speaker 10: And you know, it was just so big for him

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Speaker 10: to get back there this past week. Both he and

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Speaker 10: Chris Godwin we're able to make their season debuts this

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Speaker 5: I love that you're.

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Speaker 4: Talking about just men health or whatnot and what some

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Speaker 5: I mean, this dude has been through it a lot.

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Speaker 4: Right, number one overall pick goes to the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 4: shipped over to the Rams. Now he's with this squad

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Speaker 4: right here. How do you think he's been able to

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Speaker 4: put together the season that he put together last year

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Speaker 4: along with this year? And how has he shown some

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Speaker 4: mental toughness well and Baker's.

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Speaker 10: Talked about it too, that, you know, between being traded

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Speaker 10: by the Browns and having that experience in Carolina and

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Speaker 10: then he was able to have some degree of success

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Speaker 10: with the Rams. He actually said that the Rams helped

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Speaker 10: them fall in love with football again. And so I

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Speaker 10: think we really got a credit to Rams for helping

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Speaker 10: his comeback story. And since were I'm the subject of

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Speaker 10: mental health, you know, I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge.

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Speaker 10: Of course, I think the role that you know, Smith's

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Speaker 10: I know, of course he's with the Raiders now, but

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Speaker 10: I think that that did a lot as far as

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Speaker 10: kind of inspiring hope and guys like Saker Mayfield and

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Speaker 10: Sham Darnald and the fact that because I mean, this

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Speaker 10: so much mental toughness as a quarterback, and I mean,

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Speaker 10: this stuff can eat you alive. I mean, I think

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Speaker 10: I saw on social media when people would joke about

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Speaker 10: Sam Donald's being ghosts, and I just like, really, man,

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Speaker 10: And I know from a reporter standpoint, I've had to

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Speaker 10: hold myself in check, and I've had to learn to

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Speaker 10: be better, even as far as, you know, recognizing my

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Speaker 10: interactions player role in shaping how these guys feel about

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Speaker 10: themselves and I should be better there, and I really,

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Speaker 10: I know I'm not perfect, but I've tried to be better.

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Speaker 10: But as far as the way Baker has handled himself,

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Speaker 10: you know, I think Tampa was the perfect place for

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Speaker 10: him to go because it was a locker room that

659
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Speaker 10: just you know, they had just seen Tom Brady's retirement,

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Speaker 10: and you know, they have a lot of those winning habits,

661
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Speaker 10: and it wasn't like they were asking him to be Tom,

662
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Speaker 10: and that was such the most important thing Baker would

663
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Speaker 10: tell you as far as his recipe for success here

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Speaker 10: is that they said, don't try to be anything but yourself,

665
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Speaker 10: and the guys really encouraged that. And also, I think

666
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Speaker 10: Pampa's just a place where you know the people. I

667
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 10: think the same reason they embrace Shiloh's anders And I

668
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 10: know Shiloh ultimately didn't make the squad, but there's just

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Speaker 10: something about the guys that have been counted out or

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Speaker 10: maybe even that have been treated as outcasts, that this

671
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Speaker 10: market really seems to like and feel kind of protective of.

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Speaker 10: And maybe it's because of the way they came into

673
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Speaker 10: the league and they were so used to being a

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Speaker 10: laughing stock. And then also I think it's a matter

675
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Speaker 10: of like this is the market that you know, Mike

676
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Speaker 10: Golstop is a folk pereau here and Baker is a

677
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Speaker 10: blue collar every man's hype quarterback. It's not always real pretty.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes you've got to roll up his sleeves and he's

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Speaker 10: got to get you know, the first down with his legs,

681
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Speaker 10: and I'm curious to see how much that knee injury

682
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Speaker 10: kind of prevents him from doing that, especially against this

683
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Speaker 10: great defense. But you know, I just think people really

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Speaker 10: appreciate that. And that's the thing too, Like I just

685
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Speaker 10: think Baker is one of those one of those people where,

686
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Speaker 10: you know, I think a lot of us in life,

687
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Speaker 10: we get to a point where we're told we can't

688
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Speaker 10: do this or we can't be this. We can't you know,

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Speaker 10: we have to change we are. And you know, the

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Speaker 10: only thing I've ever seen from Baker has has you know,

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Speaker 10: it's certainly been a lot of growth. He'll tell you

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Speaker 10: that he's grown a lot, but with who he is

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Speaker 10: at his core, I think has always remained the same.

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Speaker 4: She is ESPN dot Com Jenna Lane, Genna, we appreciate

695
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Speaker 4: you us staying up for us.

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Speaker 5: You're back east, thanks for staying up for us. We

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Speaker 5: appreciate you.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely a pleasure to join you, guys. I'm going to

699
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Speaker 10: miss this game. I'm super jealous. Seattle is my most

700
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Speaker 10: favorite city to travel too. But you know, unlike the

701
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Speaker 10: guys that are playing on Sunday, I'm just not tough

702
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Speaker 10: enough to travel. I'm not tough enough to travel right now.

703
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Speaker 10: I am injured. So hopefully you guys enjoy this great game.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully it'll be a good one.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, well, we will you hill up, We hill up.

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Speaker 4: That as ESPN's Jenna and Okay, we'll we come back.

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Speaker 4: We'll be joined by or on the phone, not in person.

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Speaker 4: I'll get too excited, okay, but we will be drawn

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Speaker 4: by defensive lineman Mike Morris.

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Speaker 5: That's next.

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Speaker 1: Right here on Hawkslot, broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center Court,

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Speaker 1: you are listening to Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District.

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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports on seven ten, and the Seattle Sports Ad.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District

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Speaker 4: at the Bellvy Collection every Thursday at seven right here

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Speaker 4: in Seattle Sports seven to ten broadcasting live from Belvy

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Speaker 4: Squares Center Court. We are joined now by defensive lineman

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Speaker 4: Mike Morris.

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Speaker 5: Mike, how we doing?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, I'm doing great. How are y'all doing?

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Speaker 5: We're doing good? Man.

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Speaker 4: I remember we had you on this show your rookie year,

724
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Speaker 4: and we see continue to grow and blossom. So I

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Speaker 4: want you to I want you to listen to this

726
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Speaker 4: this clip. Your man AD has some good words about

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Speaker 4: you with Mike Morris.

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Speaker 5: What do you think is kind of going right with him? Right?

729
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Speaker 7: Obviously to play a couple of diferent spots.

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Speaker 5: He's competing aule of years.

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Speaker 4: That's why I see like he wants to play and

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Speaker 4: he's competing, and I feel like it's showing on the

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Speaker 4: field he's competing.

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Speaker 5: What does that mean for you to hear your your

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Speaker 5: DC have kind words for you?

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Speaker 6: You know, It's funny he almost cussed me out just

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Speaker 6: to say something nice to me. It was like, Mike,

738
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Speaker 6: I said something nice to you.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you if you don't go out here and ball.

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Speaker 6: Out, I'm going to destroy you. And I was just

741
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Speaker 6: like I was like, all right, bro, So that's my

742
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Speaker 6: that's my that's my dog man. That's one of my

743
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Speaker 6: favorite coaches, like probably ever, you know, just someone who's

744
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Speaker 6: just staying on, just staying only making sure I'm dialed

745
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Speaker 6: even when I'm not involved, you know. Uh, And it

746
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Speaker 6: means a lot because I have been. You know, I

747
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 6: did a lot over last year. Like if we're being

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Speaker 6: totally honest, like last year was my rookie season because

749
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Speaker 6: I missed the whole length of the season of my

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Speaker 6: rookie year. So last year being my rookie year and

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Speaker 6: then now having year two with these coaches, you know,

752
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Speaker 6: it's it's been nothing but competition that I've been putting

753
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Speaker 6: out on film. So I just I'm just trying to play,

754
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Speaker 6: you know, That's all I want to do.

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Speaker 7: So big, Mike, you and Leonard Williams are built you

756
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 7: know similarly, like tall, big, dominant defensive linemen. Uh what

757
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 7: have you learned from him? And then like if are

758
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Speaker 7: you in his ear trying to you know, get little

759
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Speaker 7: tips and things like that because you guys could be

760
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Speaker 7: similar players.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I watch everything Leo does you know.

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Speaker 6: I'm actually at his house right now. We're actually watching

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Speaker 6: the Thursday night game, so that's just just a coincidence.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, no, I just I just listened to everything

765
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Speaker 6: he says. You know, obviously I'm really close with him

766
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Speaker 6: and and like off the field, our wives are really close,

767
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Speaker 6: so it just makes it our bond even greater. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I listen to everything he says and always just picked

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Speaker 6: his ear about what to do on the field and

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Speaker 6: too young off the field as well, So he's definitely

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Speaker 6: been been a great mentor to me and to all

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Speaker 6: the younger guys as well.

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Speaker 7: Well. You know, the coach was just talking about your

774
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Speaker 7: desire to compete, and you're saying that, you know, this

775
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Speaker 7: is like kind of like your second year.

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Speaker 5: Last year was your rookie year.

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Speaker 7: What are some of the things that you think that

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Speaker 7: you're doing well, and then what are maybe one or

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Speaker 7: two things where you feel like there's still some growth there.

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Speaker 6: I feel like what I'm doing well right now that

781
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Speaker 6: I didn't do last year was just have confidence in

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Speaker 6: my level of play. I say, last year, like they

783
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Speaker 6: have me all over the place, so like there's a

784
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Speaker 6: lot of uncertainty there with me in my own head

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Speaker 6: about playing certain ways and playing a certain style and

786
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Speaker 6: playing a certain position and just switching that mindset on

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Speaker 6: and off and to go into those avenues that I

788
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Speaker 6: had to navigate. It just left me in a place

789
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Speaker 6: where I had the second guests everything I was doing

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Speaker 6: when I steppt on the field, which led to me

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Speaker 6: not playing a lot. And so this year I'm just

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Speaker 6: like fully fully just confident in myself, fully confident in

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Speaker 6: my playing style, and it's showing. You know, I'm showing

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Speaker 6: up on film and popping up on film. You know,

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Speaker 6: I'm meeting after after with the coaches and taking care

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Speaker 6: of my body. So it's it's only right that my

797
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Speaker 6: hard work is paying off.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know, from the outside, we look at this

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Speaker 4: defensive line and we just marvel, man, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of talent there. We think that that unit is one

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Speaker 4: of the best in the NFL. Do you guys feel

802
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: how special that that you are and that you can be?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's not a feeling. It's just annoying.

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Speaker 6: You know. I feel like we feltered in o t

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Speaker 6: as we feltered last year. We feltered in camp. But

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Speaker 6: now it's like we know, so it's like there's none

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00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 6: anyone can tell us, nothing that anyone can. Like people

808
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Speaker 6: really can't get us too hype and get us too

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Speaker 6: you know, riled up about who we are. Someone praises us, well,

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Speaker 6: they're so good, they're so good. It's like, yeah, we know.

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Speaker 6: Like if I don't want, I don't want to sound

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Speaker 6: cocky or anything like that, but like I feel like

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Speaker 6: if people think it's cocky, I mean we we I

814
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 6: feel like we work way too hard. Like you can

815
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Speaker 6: come to our practices, watch us and ok, watchingson camp.

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Speaker 6: We practiciate too hard to not be the best. So

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Speaker 6: I feel like you saying that it's cool and thank

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Speaker 6: you for saying that, but like we know it, we

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Speaker 6: don't really feel it no more.

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Speaker 7: I love that. Hey, what do you guys see what

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Speaker 7: this Tampa Bay team they can be. They kind of

822
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Speaker 7: have that same kind of resilience, kind of toughness the

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Speaker 7: way they play. You can't always count them out, you know,

824
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Speaker 7: the type of ball, the way you guys play. And

825
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 7: then Baker Mayfield is a little nicked up, but he's

826
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Speaker 7: a tough, hard news quarterback. So what do you what

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Speaker 7: do you guys see and what do you think is

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Speaker 7: uh the top priority going into that game?

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Speaker 6: I mean, we see just a really resilient team. I mean,

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Speaker 6: even in that silly game, you know, they just never

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Speaker 6: count themselves out. So I mean, I love to play

832
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Speaker 6: teams like that because it's kind of I want I

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00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 6: don't want to say blue, but it's kind of like frustrating,

834
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Speaker 6: Like we play a team and like you just be

835
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 6: on them, beating on them, beating on them, and they

836
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Speaker 6: just don't fight back, you know, So I want to

837
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 6: get team like this. It's like you punch State punch,

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00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: you punch State punched, and it's like all right, like

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Speaker 6: let's let's go. Let's let's let's go out to beat

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Speaker 6: Water and see who survives. You know. It's it's really nice.

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00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 6: So and one thing that we watched on somem that

842
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 6: we really have to focus on is just tackling. So

843
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 6: they make a lot of their plays off of mistackles

844
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Speaker 6: yards after contact. So if we tackle up, we wrap up,

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Speaker 6: and we tackle tackle tackle Baker Mayfield as if he's

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Speaker 6: a running back in the in the pocket, I feel

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Speaker 6: like we will do our job.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you're one of the guys who had a relationship

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Speaker 4: with Mike McDonald before he uh he was the head

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Speaker 4: coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: How have you seen him grow as a coach.

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Speaker 6: He's a lot more relaxed and he tells us that

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: all the time. It's it's it's so easy to look

854
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 6: at him and be like, oh, he knows what he's doing,

855
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 6: and it's like, he'll just keep it one hundred with

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Speaker 6: us twenty four to seven. And that's how that's how

857
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: you that's what you wanted to coach, you know. And

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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 6: he'll just be like, man like, I'm so much more

859
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 6: confident in my ability, so much more confident and everything

860
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Speaker 6: I'm doing now, and compared to when he's at Baltimore

861
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Speaker 6: and when I know my Michigan, you know, and it

862
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 6: just feels like he's just one hundred percent trust himself,

863
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 6: touch his instincts and just he just feels a lot

864
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Speaker 6: more relaxed. And he always says, loosen focus. It's probably

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Speaker 6: the most loosing focus I've ever seen him.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's interesting because he seems like a pretty pretty

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Speaker 7: intense dude.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: But you also played under Jim Harbaugh at Michigan and I, uh, Jim,

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Speaker 7: I think Jim's last year in the league a block

871
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Speaker 7: from in Detroit. Uh, what what did what do you

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Speaker 7: think of Jim Harbaugh. Like what I mean, like, not

873
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 7: just as a coach, but just as a dude. He

874
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 7: has a weird, quirky personality and all that kind of stuff.

875
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 7: What what was your your idea of him?

876
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 6: Uh? I mean as a person, I feel like he's

877
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 6: probably one of the most genuine people. Like if you

878
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 6: don't like people being themselves and you wanting to be

879
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: like you, like, you're not gonna like Jim Harball. It's

880
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 6: a it's just a just a just just a unique individual.

881
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 6: That's would I can put it. And I love that

882
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 6: man to death. That's one of the one of the

883
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 6: greatest coaches that I've ever been coached by. Here talking

884
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 6: about the guys who loves football, loves the game, and

885
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: it is just prepared to like he says like we're

886
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 6: gonna go out of deep waters and we're gonna be

887
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 6: the big fish and like to say that and also

888
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 6: do it with the do with the team, like you

889
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 6: see him. He's in, he's in, he's doing sprints with

890
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 6: the team, he's doing listing with the team, doing squats

891
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 6: and his kakis like he showed up to my fish

892
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 6: visit in Jordan cleats and I'm like, bro, what are

893
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 6: you doing. He's like, bro, I just can't. Like he

894
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 6: just hopped on the plane and came to see me

895
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 6: off the practice and I'm like, bro, you're insane, and

896
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 6: like that that's him. That's that's completely.

897
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 7: Did he do any like impersonations? Like he used to

898
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 7: come in the huddle and he could impersonate like all

899
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 7: the other quarterbacks in the NFL. So sometimes he'd be

900
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 7: John l Way. The next time he'd be like Joe

901
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: Montana like it.

902
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, his goofy. But he gets it from his dad. Now,

903
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 6: his dad is a great storyteller. I'm talking about like

904
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: it's an amazing story each other. When they when they

905
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 6: used to let him come to our games, like the

906
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 6: night before the game he see it looks like the

907
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 6: speech at the end of the night and like bruh,

908
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 6: Like the whole woman is just silent listening on this man,

909
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 6: and it's just like it's amazing, it's amazing. But now, yeah,

910
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 6: the whole family is the same way. Whole family's amazing.

911
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: Hey, you mentioned that your wife and and Lennard's wife

912
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: are close. Me haven't been married. You got to run

913
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: things with the wife. Did you run through cutting your

914
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: hair with the wifey.

915
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 6: It was hard idea, manun.

916
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: You don't want to do it.

917
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 6: I'm going to say this. It was like you know

918
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 6: how you joke around like a man, I'm gonna cut

919
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 6: my hair. And I've been saying that for years. I've

920
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: been saying that since I was in college. We were

921
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 6: dating in college, So I'm gonna cut my hair. And

922
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 6: then like it came to a point where like I

923
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: was just like, man, I'm sick of it. Like it's

924
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 6: just like it's like it's like, oh, that's annoying. And

925
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 6: she's like, cut it, cut it, cut it. And I'm like,

926
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 6: all right, I'll cut it, and she's like, but after

927
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 6: the wedding. I don't want you to look ugly. So

928
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: I had to wait to after the wedding and then

929
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 6: I cut it.

930
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: Well, you're you're a heck of a player and even

931
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 5: smarter man, Mike. We we appreciate you taking time out

932
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Speaker 5: of your Thursday man.

933
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: No, oh, thank you so much. I'll be good man.

934
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Speaker 5: Take care.

935
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,960
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Speaker 4: You're Al West champions the Mariners man, it's about to

955
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: go down this weekend. This young man wasn't even born

956
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Speaker 7: I want to give him a shout out to CAYL Rowley.

960
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 7: We're from the same area of North Carolina. So Western

961
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: North Carolina I played against since he's younger than I am,

962
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,279
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963
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Speaker 7: football growing up. So shout out to Western North Carolina.

964
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Speaker 5: Big ups, Big ups.

965
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Speaker 4: Sorry, let's talk about some football man right now, Thursday

966
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: Night football. The Niners, who doesn't have Rock Purdy, don't

967
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: have Born and like three or four other guys are

968
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: up twenty three to twenty against the Rams. If I

969
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: were betman, if I could bet on the NFL, I

970
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: can't bet on the NFL. But if I were too

971
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: bet before this game, I would not think the Niners will.

972
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 5: Be up right now.

973
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 6: You know.

974
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 7: The only thing that I would look at is it's

975
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 7: so early in the season that they could give themselves

976
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 7: a chance like this. But like you said, with all

977
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 7: the injuries, uh you know that that they have on

978
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 7: our team, it's interesting that they've been able to stay

979
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 7: in these games and still and still win these football games.

980
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 7: It says a lot to their coaching, I guess I

981
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 7: would say, or you know, haven't made to see the game.

982
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 5: The Rams may not be playing so well.

983
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so right now you got Matthew Stafford is twenty

984
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: two of thirty four two and three touchdowns, has not

985
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: turned the football over once running the ball.

986
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 5: Here's the difference.

987
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: The Rams have fifty three total yards and Puka Nikoup

988
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: has nine for seventy six. Kendrick Bourne for the Niners

989
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: has ten receptions for one hundred and forty two of

990
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: them things, and then McCaffrey has over one hundred yards

991
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 4: of total offense.

992
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: That's just what he does. So there's an update. Now.

993
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: The Rams have the ball right now with about a

994
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: little over two minutes left, drivings either time or win

995
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 4: this football game. Since I think like the last ten years,

996
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford has the most game winning drive in the NFL,

997
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: so you know what, history says, he might get it done.

998
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 7: Well, the way the kickers are these days, when you

999
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 7: cross the fifty yard line, you have a chance to

1000
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 7: get back in the game. And so they're already on

1001
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 7: like close to the opposing team's forty yard line. So

1002
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 7: there's a chance that they could tie this up in

1003
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 7: the next a couple of minutes before the top every

1004
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 7: time game. Hopefully it's not another forty to forty tie game.

1005
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 7: Those are kind of ugly and nasty, but but but

1006
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 7: it looks like they're gonna have a chance to at

1007
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 7: least tie it up.

1008
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: See Moyer and I last week off air, we're talking

1009
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 4: about how to make it tougher on the kickers. We said,

1010
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: raise the goal post and bring it in just a

1011
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 4: little bit, right, make it higher and then bring it in.

1012
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: Because a fifty something yard is automatic. Right back back

1013
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: when I was growing up, I used to be praying

1014
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: on my hands and knees that a field goal kicker

1015
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: would make a fifty something yard?

1016
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 7: So would you would you just do that for the

1017
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 7: long field goals or for all of all of them all?

1018
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 5: Just just raise it up. You know, it's like raising

1019
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: a rim in the NBA, you know, just raise it up. Yeah,

1020
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 5: I guess, I guess how it worked.

1021
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: I'm just thinking, like if I thought you were thinking, like,

1022
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 7: if it's over like fifty yards, just some mechanism that then,

1023
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 7: I mean, we already have so many, like all this

1024
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 7: technology in the game as it is, I don't.

1025
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: I'm a bit more basically, Okay, I got just permanently permanent.

1026
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is what it is.

1027
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 6: It.

1028
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 5: Did you see Sanders? I did mind his answers today

1029
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 5: or yesterday? What did you think of that. Well.

1030
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 7: First of all, I thought, I really thought my volume.

1031
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 6: Me to.

1032
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 7: I'm just like, why can't I hear everything else? But

1033
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 7: this I didn't even read the captions and things. And

1034
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 7: then when I read it, I thought, like, my first

1035
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 7: thought was like, God, that's pretty funny, but I didn't

1036
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 7: know what it was he was even really responding to.

1037
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 7: But then I started thinking, you know, with one, he's

1038
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 7: listening to too much stuff. You know, he like for

1039
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 7: Rex Ryan to be running his mouth, and like, why

1040
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 7: give that any credits? You know what I'm saying? Yeah,

1041
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 7: And then uh, and then the second thing I thought

1042
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: was like doing it, doing that gives a voice like

1043
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: Rex Ryan legs right because you're just it keeps the

1044
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 7: conversation going and makes him relevant some kind of way.

1045
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 7: And so then I didn't I didn't seem so funny,

1046
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 7: you know, because now you gotta you know, Dylan Gabriel

1047
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: is gonna have his first start, and all the conversation

1048
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 7: is around a guy that didn't say anything basically.

1049
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: So that's kind of how I that was my journey

1050
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 5: through what I saw. Yeah, mine was the same way.

1051
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, he's tripping I always doing that's funny.

1052
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: But then I'm like, you're a quarterback in the NFL.

1053
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: And even if these journalists and reporters are fishing for

1054
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 5: a story, just don't give them.

1055
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 4: Don't give them the generic answer. I'm happy for Dylan Gabriel.

1056
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 4: He's gonna go out and do his thing. I'll be

1057
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: ready to play the fact that you said like like

1058
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: like you said, give Rex, Ryan's comming some legs now,

1059
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: we're talking about it on Hawk's Live at Square cent

1060
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: Card right. If he were to just be a profession

1061
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 4: I think that's the one thing that's missing from Shador

1062
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: is just learning.

1063
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 5: How just be boring sometimes.

1064
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, the thing is is that you know, obviously

1065
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 7: the Sanders family, they're big and bold and they go

1066
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 7: against the Green and all that kind of stuff. And

1067
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 7: sometimes I think people feel like they want to stay

1068
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 7: authentic to themselves, so that means that they can't be

1069
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 7: this other thing. But to me, it's like learning the

1070
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 7: foreign language. You got to know when to use it,

1071
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like, if I know Spanish

1072
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 7: and I'm in Spain, then i know I'm good to go.

1073
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 7: I'm not going to try to speak French, you know

1074
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So like he has these different languages

1075
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 7: to speak and he has to kind of figure out

1076
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 7: when to do it. And it's not the same as

1077
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 7: like a code switching thing, but it's more of a

1078
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 7: like when when should I be this fun, outgoing, you know, confident,

1079
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 7: right dude, and when do I need to just read

1080
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 7: the room and go like, all right, I'm just gonna

1081
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 7: give you this because I'm not going to give that

1082
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 7: guy legs to keep to keep this thing going.

1083
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: You know, would have been appropriate if initially he minded

1084
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: it and then he started talking I'm just playing, yeah,

1085
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: and then started answering question like you get your point across, right,

1086
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: be a little petty, but then you answer the questions

1087
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: like a professional exactly.

1088
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 5: So he's he's got some learning to do.

1089
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Speaking of the Browns man since nineteen ninety nine, this

1090
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 4: will be their forty first starting quarterback, geez, that is wild.

1091
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 7: That is crazy. Like, I mean, the thing is you

1092
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 7: start to think about their teams and I guess they've

1093
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 7: changed so many I can't even tested verty I can

1094
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 7: remember because of the name, uh huh, other than that

1095
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson.

1096
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 5: Watson.

1097
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 7: That's a fast forward through time, you know what I'm

1098
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 7: saying like, how do you remember all those different quarterbacks? Yeah?

1099
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 7: That's uh was that what Johnny Manziel went.

1100
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: Johnny Minzel went there? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, safe to say

1101
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 5: they had a quarterback problem over there in Cleveland. And

1102
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 5: I hope Dylan Gabriel is a guy, if not a

1103
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 5: whole sha Door is a guy. If not, then they'll

1104
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 5: be drafting another quarterback here.

1105
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 7: I feel like between those two dudes, Gabriel and Shador,

1106
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 7: I think both of them are different skilled, but both

1107
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 7: of them have what it takes to be a start

1108
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 7: quarterback in this league. And so they could have themselves

1109
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 7: set up right now for the near future for you know,

1110
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 7: injuries or what have. You have two really good young

1111
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 7: quarterbacks competing against each other. Hopefully, you know, the the

1112
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 7: best will rise to the top kind of a thing.

1113
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: So we saw a nasty injury, uh this past week

1114
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: in Tyreek Hill knuckle Wood. I'm so glad I got

1115
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: out of the NFL without that. You serf had a

1116
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: nasty injury yourself.

1117
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that? What's that gonna be like for him mentally?

1118
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: You know to kind of push through this?

1119
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, uh so I I broke in

1120
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 7: one game I broke my leg and dislocated my foot,

1121
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 7: so my foot was turned all the way backwards. In

1122
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 7: a different game, Uh, someone got thrown on my leg

1123
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 7: and I tore my ACL and MCL and the whole nine.

1124
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: And the hardest thing coming back is just the mental part,

1125
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 7: like especially when you're around pals or like he's a

1126
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 7: receiver when he's gonna get hit, you know, those types

1127
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 7: of things, and a lot of times you're you're just

1128
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 7: your straight ahead mobility comes back obviously way before the

1129
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 7: lateral stuff, so then you're a little bit uneasy, like

1130
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 7: you know, going side to side. But you know, I

1131
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 7: think today's technology and the way they get guys back,

1132
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 7: you know, and rehab, I think he can make a comeback.

1133
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 7: I don't know if he'll be the super fast dude

1134
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 7: the first year back, but I think he can make

1135
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 7: a comeback. And then it's just a matter of just

1136
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 7: a mental partic going. Like man, I can remember it

1137
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 7: wasn't as much my ankle as it was my knee.

1138
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 7: When I would fill a power around me, I would

1139
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 7: lift my leg out of the way just because I'm

1140
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 7: just like man, I don't want it to happen again.

1141
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 7: And it took me probably half a season to stop

1142
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 7: doing that, like stop pulling my leg away from piles

1143
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 7: when I saw him coming.

1144
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 5: All right, well, here's an update.

1145
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 4: Rams got it within the five Carvin Williams rushing to take.

1146
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 5: The lead, fumble, Niners recovery.

1147
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: They win this ball game, they will be the biggest

1148
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: surprise in the NFC West. So there is a minute

1149
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: five seconds left. The Rams don't have rams of all

1150
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: three timeouts, so obviously they're going to use them.

1151
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 5: They might get the football back.

1152
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: Doesn't look like the forty nine is gonna do anything crazy,

1153
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: but yeah, that is that is wild, and it gets

1154
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: real when the producer puts the headset on what you

1155
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 4: got for is now.

1156
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 7: I was sitting over there with our intern Hudson.

1157
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 11: He's doing a great job for us this year, and

1158
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 11: he echoed a phrase that we all feel with the

1159
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 11: forty nine ers. For those who've seen Breaking Bad, you

1160
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 11: all know the character Jesse. They cannot keep getting away

1161
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 11: with this, and they are they are.

1162
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: It looks like they're probably going to improve the four

1163
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 5: and one. Like I said, if I could battle NFL games,

1164
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 5: I would have bet on this one and I would

1165
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: have lost some money.

1166
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, the forty nine ers are doing that thing,

1167
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 7: man like where they're just winning until they can get

1168
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 7: all their things, like the survive and advance. And I

1169
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 7: remember a few years ago I heard that from Babbitto

1170
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 7: as he was talking about the Seahawks early in the season.

1171
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 7: They had some injuries and new coaches and things, and

1172
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 7: he was like, man, if you can win when you're

1173
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 7: in the surviving advance mode, then when you get healthy,

1174
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 7: then the sky's the limit. So the forty nine ers

1175
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 7: are working that formula like crazy.

1176
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: Tonight was third down, rams are gonna call time out,

1177
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: they might get the ball back. So it's not like

1178
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: you guys don't all have smartphones. You can probably look

1179
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: at the score yourself. But we'll keep you we'll keep

1180
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: you all updated, all right, all right, more to do.

1181
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna break down some film.

1182
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: We'll go inside the film room. That's next right here

1183
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: on Hawk's Live.

1184
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: Back to more of Hawks Live presented by the Dining District.

1185
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: That's a Bellevue collection broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center Court.

1186
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: Here's your host, Michael Bumpus.

1187
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: You're listening to Hawks Live presented by the Dining Just

1188
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: you got the Bellvy collection along with big ray of

1189
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: Michael Bumpus. The show is every Thursday at seven right

1190
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 4: here in Seattle, Sport seven ten, broadcasting live from Bellvy

1191
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: Squares Center Court. Listen, the Rams are moving the football

1192
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 4: right now. They're probably gonna kick a field goal. Somebody

1193
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: keep me updated because we need our phones now for

1194
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 4: this next segment. So now y'all got to keep me

1195
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 4: in the loop. Okay, somebody let me know. Someone just

1196
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: throw the two hands up. They make a field goal. Okay,

1197
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: all right, but it's time for our film breakdown. This

1198
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: is where we we do what we do. I love

1199
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 4: watching film. I watched hours and hours and hours of

1200
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 4: film when it comes to these Seahawks and other teams

1201
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 4: as well. All right, so this first play we're gonna

1202
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: break down is AJ Barner sixteen yard touchdown.

1203
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 7: Sharvion a in the backfield. Donald.

1204
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 9: Look, he's just gonna throw from the corner of the endzone.

1205
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 5: He's got a man touchdown, Seahawks. It's ay J Barner.

1206
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 3: The tight end just literally.

1207
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 9: Ran away from a Keen Davis Gay through the linebacker

1208
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 9: to the far side of the end zone. And as

1209
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 9: Sam Darnold has done so often this season already and

1210
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 9: absolutely perfect throw sixteen yards.

1211
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 5: The Seahawks are on the board. So the best fans

1212
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 5: in the world just told me that is a tie

1213
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 5: ball game.

1214
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 4: Now in the Rams game. All right, let's get back

1215
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: to this. So right here, big Ray, this is when

1216
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 4: I see you got a Royo in a wing position.

1217
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 4: You got Cooper cuple of on top of them. It's

1218
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: clearly man. So what's gonna happen is you get a

1219
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: nice little switch route.

1220
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 5: Right here.

1221
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 4: You got Arroyo who's gonna on his route off a linebacker.

1222
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: You have Cooper cup on to the left of him.

1223
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: He's gonna run a post, occupy his guy and take

1224
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: the single high safety with him, which allows AJ to

1225
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: run what I call like a spray release.

1226
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 5: Right It's like when you're in the slot and you

1227
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 5: get wide and you run a fade. He's one on one.

1228
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: What I love about his route is that he's not

1229
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 4: running full speedis tempo.

1230
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get on the defender's toes.

1231
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to give him a little heavy then I

1232
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: accelerate and Sam Donalds just drops a dime.

1233
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 7: I would have run the route the same way. I

1234
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 7: don't know if I'd have gotten open, but I'd have

1235
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 7: gone really slow, and then i would have been a

1236
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 7: little bit slower because I'd have been further down the field.

1237
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 5: I can't run that fast.

1238
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 7: But the thing I like about this is actually the

1239
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 7: right defensive tackle for the Cardinals did the Seahawks of

1240
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 7: favor because he going over grave Zabel. He rushed to

1241
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 7: Graysabel's inside and then Zabel washed him down to the

1242
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 7: right side, and it just created this huge window with

1243
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 7: no distractions or anything in the front of Sam Darnold

1244
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 7: was a clear window the for him to throw the pass.

1245
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 7: You can't throw it or have that much space around

1246
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 7: you in practice. So the way he's been dropping dives

1247
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 7: with some pressure, this one, he didn't have anybody within

1248
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 7: about four or five feet around him, and he was

1249
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 7: able to drop the ball right in the bread.

1250
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 4: Basket for the touchdown and just a friendly football. Throw

1251
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: it nice and high at the receiver's eyes or top

1252
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 4: of his helmet. Let him go and catch that football.

1253
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: I think aj Barner has one of the best celebrations

1254
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: in football right now.

1255
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 5: You guys watching him.

1256
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: He scores a touchdown, does his little wall slams the ball.

1257
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 4: I spoke to him earlier today and asked him about it.

1258
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: He said he was just a practice one time, messing around.

1259
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 5: And it felt right, so he kept a rollers.

1260
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 7: I love it, man. It's something about it that has

1261
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 7: like some cockiness, some intensity, some toughness. It's I don't

1262
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 7: know how to explain it.

1263
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: But this is really it's simple, but it's cool, simple

1264
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 5: but effective.

1265
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 4: All right, This next play, we got Sam Darnald finds

1266
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 4: who we spoke to today, Elijah Royal.

1267
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 5: For a thirty two yard game.

1268
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 7: Donald drops back on first down.

1269
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: Now he's gotta scramble out.

1270
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 9: To the right side looking for somebody who's gonna throw

1271
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 9: over the top, reaching.

1272
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 5: Up making the catch. Want to catch by the rookie.

1273
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 9: Elijah Royal makes the catch out across.

1274
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 7: The forty yard line.

1275
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 9: Donald scrambling throws big reception down to the sideline.

1276
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 5: So we got a little twelve person nail.

1277
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: So that's one running back, two tight ends, and you

1278
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: got both your tight ends attached to the line of scrimmage.

1279
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 5: To the bottom of the left of Sam Donald. You

1280
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: have I believe that is as Cooper cup into the top.

1281
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 5: You have JSM.

1282
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 4: So what's gonna happen is it's just a simple curl concept.

1283
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: So whenever you run a curl, typically you run an

1284
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: arrow or something underneath. It's kind of pull the fenders

1285
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: with you and open up that window for the curl.

1286
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 5: So that's what happens.

1287
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 4: You have the outside receivers w gonna curl your tight

1288
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 4: ends running a flap. So now what happens is a

1289
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: royal seas that the quarterback is in trouble, right, Sam

1290
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 4: Donald has a little pressure. He's got to escape a

1291
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: little bit. So now he makes that arrow and turns

1292
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 4: of a field to a go and it throws his

1293
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 4: hands up and this is like a trust fall right here.

1294
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: He tosses it up because the defender who was playing

1295
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: the flat rotates up with a royal and is right

1296
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 4: through on his hip and Sam Donald's throws the full

1297
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: ball up and a Royal comes down with it and

1298
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: does the celebration that he doesn't want to tell me about.

1299
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: But it all worked out for these guys.

1300
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 4: Again, Sam Donald just being elusive, getting outside the pocket

1301
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 4: and making a good throw.

1302
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1303
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 7: And the cool thing about the pass protection here this

1304
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 7: is it seems like an old school Pittsburgh Stealers zone blitzed.

1305
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 7: So two of the pass rushers. The defensive ends stand

1306
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 7: up outside linebacker type guys looks like look like they're

1307
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 7: gonna rush the passion, but when the ball snaps, they've

1308
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 7: dropped to the flat and then they blitz an inside backer.

1309
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 7: And this is what's really cool. We talked about this

1310
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 7: on your show today about when you're freed up as

1311
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 7: an offensive lineman, it's important to find work. So you

1312
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 7: go find someone that's not being blocked or another guy

1313
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 7: that's being blocked, and you put your helme into your farm.

1314
00:57:59,720 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 6: Right.

1315
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 5: The ribs slow them down a little bit.

1316
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 7: On this play, Gray Zabel was able to adjust to

1317
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 7: the second level defender who was blitzing and probably saved

1318
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 7: the sack because I think the Sharbone would have gotten there,

1319
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 7: but with the momentum, I think the guy may have

1320
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 7: pushed through him to get to the quarterback. But it

1321
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 7: ended up being a two on one with Grabel. I

1322
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 7: mean with Zabel and Sharbone been able to stop the blitzer,

1323
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 7: which gave Sam time to kind of scramble.

1324
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 5: To the to the right and be able to make

1325
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 5: that throw Ray.

1326
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: What I do like about Graysabel is that he gives

1327
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: that three tag enough attention I'm with you.

1328
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm with you, and now I'm going to pass you off.

1329
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: And like you said, go find some work. And it

1330
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: happens so quick, like we're slowing it down and looking

1331
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: at it in real time.

1332
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 7: That is happening fairly quickly. So what it is, they're

1333
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 7: looking good. The other thing right here too, is like

1334
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 7: look at his lateral movement. This is what we talked about.

1335
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 7: When there's a lot of guys they have this RAS

1336
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 7: score whatever they give people for the combines. Now, and

1337
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 7: he graded really high. And there's a lot of dudes

1338
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 7: that grade really high. So your athletic ability and strength

1339
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 7: and all this other kind of stuff formula, but that

1340
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 7: doesn't mean anything if you can't play football. And this

1341
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 7: dude has that and he can play football. And so

1342
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 7: just his lateral movement on this play was pretty impressive.

1343
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 7: That he got himself from going to the left back

1344
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 7: to the right and a way to pick up a

1345
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 7: blitzer going through the a gap.

1346
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 5: So good stuff on his part, all right. This next play,

1347
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 5: Zach Sharbone with a win yard touchdown.

1348
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 9: Donald under center sharmon a handoff, he goes left side,

1349
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 9: he gets hit at the goal line, he gets pushed

1350
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 9: into the end zone touchdown Seahawks. A great effort by

1351
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 9: Charboney with an assist from Charles Cross. Charbon Ay was

1352
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 9: hit just on this side of the goal line and

1353
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 9: he got a great push from Charles Cross into the

1354
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 9: end zone the one yard touchdown run, and that makes

1355
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 9: it the thirteen to three score that.

1356
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 5: The Seahawks won.

1357
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 9: And now I'm going to try to tack on the

1358
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 9: fourteenth point with Jason Myers in the PA.

1359
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 5: All right, be Ray, this is what you call. It's

1360
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 5: not bubble football. So I'm gonna go ahead and let

1361
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 5: you take this one.

1362
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 7: Yeah. Now, the thing I like about this is that

1363
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 7: it looks like just a kind of a zone play

1364
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 7: to your left or just kind of straight run play

1365
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 7: to your left. And Charles Cross actually didn't have the

1366
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 7: best block on this play, but because we talked about earlier,

1367
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 7: just their different intensity and how they're running to the

1368
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 7: ball and bend around the ball carry trying to get

1369
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 7: those extra yards. He does a very good form tackle

1370
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 7: on the on the running back, lowers his shoulder, gets

1371
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 7: his head to the side, pins his shoulder into his gut,

1372
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 7: and then drives the running back into the end zone

1373
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 7: for the touchdown. So I'd love that, and I love

1374
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 7: that they have enough confidence in their running game down

1375
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 7: here to run the ball for touchdowns. I mean, last

1376
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 7: year we struggled in the red zone. There's turnovers and

1377
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 7: those types of things. There's a couple times we couldn't

1378
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 7: pick up a fourth and one, a third and one,

1379
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 7: and this year they've done a better job with that.

1380
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 7: I think it was the last game K nine or

1381
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 7: the game before this, Kine had two touchdowns in the

1382
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 7: red zone.

1383
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: And so here you go now with Charbon Day.

1384
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 7: But I love this hustle by Big Charles. Charles has

1385
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 7: the skill set and the ability and the smartness and

1386
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 7: the toughness to be an all pro tackle.

1387
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 5: And this is one of those things you have to

1388
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 5: do if you're gonna be that.

1389
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: Guy all right down there inside the five, you got

1390
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 4: to get a push and score touchdowns. That's exactly what

1391
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 4: happened a right that was inside the film room. When

1392
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: we come back, it's time to talk that tall. We're

1393
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 4: gonna pick them by some topics. See who's right?

1394
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 5: So who's wrong with debathm That is next right here

1395
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 5: on Hawk's line.

1396
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 11: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Buppis and

1397
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 11: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

1398
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: Welcome back to Hawks and Live.

1399
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: We are all here distracted because Thursday Night football is

1400
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: going down. Twenty six to twenty three. Niners are up,

1401
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 4: but the Rams have the ball. I know time, four

1402
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: minutes and fifty seconds left. They're driving. Ball is about

1403
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: on the twenty yard line. It is second and ten.

1404
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford has fifty game winning drives, that's like top

1405
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: five in NFL history, and just completed the pass.

1406
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 5: This is gonna be tough to get through this segment.

1407
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 5: We're gonna do this big record. We go all right,

1408
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 5: talk that talk first, and I got for you big

1409
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 5: ray true false.

1410
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: Maybe you tell me, give me the Seahawks will run

1411
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 4: for more than one hundred and fifty yards on Sunday. Now,

1412
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 4: mind you, the Bucks have a top five defensive or

1413
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: top five defensively against the run, So you know, you

1414
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 4: take that for what it is.

1415
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 7: What you think, Yeah, you know. I think they're gonna

1416
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 7: start out slow like they have been, but they'll make

1417
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 7: up some yards in the second half. I don't I

1418
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 7: don't see them rushing for one hundred and fifty. They

1419
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 7: may get with a couple of Sam Darnell scrambles. I

1420
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 7: think they'll get maybe like around right at one hundred

1421
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 7: maybe one hundred and five. But I think just from

1422
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 7: the running back group, probably around like eighty five eighty.

1423
01:02:59,040 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 5: Three to eighty five yard.

1424
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: They went for a buck fifty five last week, but

1425
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 4: that was with like a what twenty something yards from

1426
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: Sam Donald from JSN, so they had some help update

1427
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 4: fourth and one for the rams they are going forward.

1428
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 4: Sean McVay says, we ain't messing around. I'm not gonna

1429
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: say anything. Well, I have to say something. This raded

1430
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 4: on that TV. Okay, all right, moving on, so me, No,

1431
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 4: they're not gonna go for a buck fifty.

1432
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 5: They'll go for a buck twenty and but they're gonna

1433
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 5: go for two rushing touchdowns. That's where they're gonna I'm

1434
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 5: gonna keep it out for me. Up.

1435
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 7: They've done a really good job in the red zone

1436
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 7: rushing to the ball for touchdowns, especially inside the five.

1437
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I say, I said buck twenty, Cay and

1438
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 4: I is gonna go for about seventy five and then

1439
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 4: Charvet Ay and Sam.

1440
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 5: Donald will split the rest of it.

1441
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 7: I can see that, all right.

1442
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 5: Next one, all right, we got Baker Mayfield He's only thrown.

1443
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 4: One interception this year, and it was a silly interception.

1444
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, Baker, what are you doing? You're too good

1445
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: for this. He's rolling to the right side his first

1446
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: and ten. They're inside the twenty yard line trying to score.

1447
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: He throws in a interception. So my question to you,

1448
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 4: Big Red, is Baker Mayfield will throw two picks on Sunday.

1449
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 7: I think he will because one, he's kind of nicked

1450
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 7: up and so he can't run. He probably won't be

1451
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 7: able to run as much as he normally does, so

1452
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 7: that he's gonna try to make some plays, some tough

1453
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 7: plays with his arm. And I think they're gonna be

1454
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 7: playing from behind. He's gonna be in kind of desperation mode,

1455
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 7: trying to do his hero ball kind of thing happening.

1456
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 7: So he's gonna give the ball an opportunity to be

1457
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 7: intercepted at least twice.

1458
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 4: Up Big, the Rams didn't go for it. They tried

1459
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: to draw the forty nine ers off size. It looks

1460
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: like they're going to the sideline and possibly kick the

1461
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: field goal. And let me give you guys a little secret,

1462
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 4: So I do a podcast with our guy Nasa Shobe

1463
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 4: two times a week. You guys should check it out

1464
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: on seas dot com. And today he said that these

1465
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 4: guys were gonna tie. I don't think you think he

1466
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: believed it, but he said they were gonna tie because

1467
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: he didn't want neither of these guys to win.

1468
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 7: If this happens, nas, I got a beer for you,

1469
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 7: all right, I got a beer for you. No, I'm

1470
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 7: taking him to the next lottery station. Make a millions, all.

1471
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 5: Right, Baker minf it will throw uh two picks on Sunday.

1472
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna go throw too. I think

1473
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 4: i'll throw one. I think I'll throw one.

1474
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 7: He always gives you a chance to get one. Yeah,

1475
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 7: And then I think out of his like like he

1476
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 7: is a tough, gritty type of a guy and he's

1477
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 7: playing a little bit hurt.

1478
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 8: Oh.

1479
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 5: They they rams go back on the field. They go

1480
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 5: for it on four down. They do not get it.

1481
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 4: It looks like the forty nine ers are gonna walk

1482
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: away with this one. With a third string quarterback, a

1483
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: couple third string receivers out there.

1484
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 5: This is all Kyle Shanahan right here. Yeah, that was

1485
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: weird right there. I just just kicked the dang field goal.

1486
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's still it's.

1487
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 5: Still got time.

1488
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: You got three minutes left of the game or three

1489
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 4: minutes you have you have the the two minute timeout

1490
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 4: as well, two minute warning.

1491
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 5: Mac Jones. Who Mac Jones?

1492
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 7: Get getting it done, man, while so that makes up

1493
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 7: for that Outfitty warred into the game.

1494
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 5: He wasn't feeling it.

1495
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 7: No, it was nasty.

1496
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 5: It was nasty.

1497
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, I know.

1498
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 4: I say, Baker mafl throws one pick and it's trekueling.

1499
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 5: You're wrong. So y'all get off of him. Okay, nah,

1500
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 5: get on him because he needs to three going four.

1501
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 5: We got a Bama hat up here.

1502
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 4: Okay, well Mac Jones, all right, all right, you from Bama,

1503
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 4: you're from Mobile, all right.

1504
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 5: I have to test.

1505
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: You have to test the games because sometimes people just

1506
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 4: be wearing stuff. Man, I don't know where they're from.

1507
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 4: All right, last one, big ray. We got a couple

1508
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 4: of minutes left, all right. By season's end, the Seahawks

1509
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 4: run game will be just as good as the passing attacks.

1510
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 9: Man.

1511
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 7: It's interesting because the passing game is efficient. Now, I

1512
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 7: can't say that it is explosive, even though they have

1513
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 7: some explosive plays. But I think they're gonna maybe struggle

1514
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 7: to find their way with that, with that outside zone,

1515
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 7: with that zone. So I think it's still going to

1516
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 7: be kind of a work in progress. So I think

1517
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 7: for me, off the running game will become efficient. Right

1518
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 7: now is kind of inconsistent. Then to get to some efficiency,

1519
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 7: and I think that'll be enough to carry the team,

1520
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 7: you know, but before it's not going to be thriving.

1521
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 7: I think by the end of the season, I think

1522
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 7: it'd be efficient.

1523
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1524
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 4: I saw them against the Steelers. They went inside zone

1525
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 4: and it started hitting. Yeah, right, because you get that

1526
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 4: double team right now, And like you say all the time,

1527
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 4: the run game is about angles, and the inside zone

1528
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 4: gives you.

1529
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 6: Well.

1530
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 7: The other thing too is the first step, the first

1531
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 7: move with the with the running back and the quarterback

1532
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 7: looks like outside zone, right, So it helps you because

1533
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 7: the guys fly to the outside, but you're running it tighter,

1534
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 7: so the holes are a lot more available. And then

1535
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 7: also with the pinning pool stuff at worked because if

1536
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 7: you're trying to run the zone, play to the right

1537
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 7: and they're shifted all to the to your right, and

1538
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 7: you then pin them over there and run the ball

1539
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 7: back to the left. There's less people over there, and

1540
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 7: you have the numbers in the angles advantage. So that's

1541
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 7: how you can make yardage running pinn and pool counter

1542
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 7: versus the outside zone.

1543
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 4: Give me the inside zone all day, and I think

1544
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: the outside zone is a good like mix up.

1545
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 7: You know what I like to start the game with

1546
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 7: is if you're gonna have a fullback, just start the

1547
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 7: game with a straight up full back dive. I want

1548
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 7: my full back on the middle. I want I want

1549
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 7: the full back on the middle. Linebacker me like a lead,

1550
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 7: look a lead. Yeah, And I want to every game

1551
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 7: when I know we weren't great at Lake Washington and

1552
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 7: at Interlay, but every single game I turned to the

1553
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 7: coach and said, we're starting to every game with that

1554
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 7: because we want them to know. This is how we're

1555
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 7: gonna play football all day. Even if you beat us,

1556
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 7: we're playing like this.

1557
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 5: I feel it. I started all of our games with

1558
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 5: inside zone.

1559
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 7: Every game inside to the left side. Though you give

1560
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,520
Speaker 7: us a love to the left tackle.

1561
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,560
Speaker 4: No, my right side was come on, I went to

1562
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 4: the right side. I ain't gotta go personnel. I feel

1563
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 4: you gotta go person that all right. No, the run

1564
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 4: game will not be as goods the pass game, because

1565
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 4: the pass game is going to be even better because

1566
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: of the run game. Yep, you feel me, so it'll.

1567
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 5: Be married all right.

1568
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: When we go back, we'll give you our show recap

1569
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 4: and final thoughts. I cannot believe the Niners got away

1570
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 4: with us. That's next on Hawk's line.

1571
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: Back to more of Hawks Live presented by the Dining

1572
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: District at the Bellevue Collection, broadcasting live from Bellevue Square

1573
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: Center Court.

1574
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: Here's your host, Michael Buffis.

1575
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 5: Along with Big Ray Roberts.

1576
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 4: This is Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District every

1577
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 4: Thursday right here w squar Center Court. Will be doing

1578
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: what we do, Big Ray Yo. The forty nine ers,

1579
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 4: how sway? How do they keep doing this? The injuries

1580
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 4: that they had today. You had a I don't know

1581
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 4: who this is, but Kalia Davis was out, George Kittle's out,

1582
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: Jordan James, Jordan Watkins, Rock Purty, Ricky Piarsoll, Jwan Jennings, Robert.

1583
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 7: Bell like they they they're coached up. Yeah, that's the

1584
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 7: only way you win that game. Yeah, that's the only

1585
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 7: way you win it. And then like the whole next

1586
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 7: man up thing. I hate using that phrase. But I

1587
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 7: mean that says that the guys that are playing behind

1588
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 7: them are paying attention, working hard, being prepared, ready to

1589
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 7: play football. And then sometimes you know, when a team

1590
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 7: is injured like that and they're and they're you're, the

1591
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 7: opposing team kind of lets down a little bit. Like

1592
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 7: it's hard sometimes to mentally stay focused like that and

1593
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 7: think like, oh, man, they don't have this guy and

1594
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 7: they don't have this because you talk about in locker room.

1595
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 7: So sometimes it's good just not even be part of

1596
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 7: the conversation because it kind of jacks up your psyche.

1597
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 7: So that could be a little bit of it too.

1598
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 7: But you know, they're playing good football and finding ways

1599
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 7: to win. That's what it's all about.

1600
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 4: Four and one these dudes, man, all right, let's let's

1601
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 4: focus on the matchup this weekend. We've been talking about

1602
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 4: them for the majority of the show. The Bucks there

1603
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 4: are a good football team, top five against the run.

1604
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 4: They don't give up a lot of points. They are

1605
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 4: injured as well, though Mike Evans is banged up, and

1606
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: they got a young guy who's from this area of

1607
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: Mecha Abuka, who is from Stillicome High School, was a

1608
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen state player of the Year. Went to Ohio State.

1609
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 4: Looks like the favorites. Right now, did you go to Huston,

1610
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: You went to Ohio State?

1611
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 7: Huh?

1612
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 5: You just wrapping, You just wrap all. You're from Ohio. Okay.

1613
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 5: I was wondering. I was wondering.

1614
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 4: I know he's repping it over there. Our intern is

1615
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: repping Ohio. But wide receiver you Ohio status. But when

1616
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 4: you look at the Tampa Bay bucks Man, what challenges

1617
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 4: do you see?

1618
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 7: I think offensively, when you look across the line at

1619
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 7: their defense, you're kind of looking at the dudes your

1620
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 7: practice against. They may not be playing at the same

1621
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 7: exact level, but they have. You know, Vita Veda is

1622
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 7: a Veda is a big dude and a big athletic guy.

1623
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 7: So I've seen him play on the on the end,

1624
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 7: I've seen him play over the nose, I've seen him

1625
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 7: play over the guard. A very good and he's a

1626
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 7: UF dude. It's a very tough, physical athletic football player

1627
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 7: that those interior three guys are going to have to

1628
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 7: deal with him. So this can't be a game for

1629
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 7: Bradford to kind of take some time off. It can't

1630
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 7: be a game for whichever center is in there to

1631
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 7: not snap the ball over to send the quarterback's head,

1632
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 7: and then Zabel has to play like a big boy.

1633
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 7: He can't play like a rookie in this game because

1634
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 7: he's going to be playing against some grown men. So

1635
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be important for them to

1636
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 7: find some consistency in the running game. Like I said,

1637
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 7: I don't see them rushing for one hundred and fifty yards,

1638
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 7: but they have to make them respect the run enough

1639
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 7: so that they can use it play action pass, push

1640
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 7: the ball down the field, and then the defensively, you

1641
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 7: just have to keep doing what you do. You have

1642
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 7: to keep You have to make Baker Mayfield feel as

1643
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 7: if he has to make all the plays. If you

1644
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 7: give him too much time to drop back and pack

1645
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 7: the ball and find people to throw it to, more

1646
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 7: than likely he's going to do that. But you have

1647
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,480
Speaker 7: to have him running around, breaking tackles, doing three sixties

1648
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 7: and then throwing the ball fifty yards down the field

1649
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 7: to try to make a completion. That's the Baker Mayfield

1650
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 7: you want to have show up. Because this is a

1651
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 7: team that is built mentally like the Seahawks, so you

1652
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 7: can't count them out of out of any games. They

1653
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 7: have a lot of grit and resilience and toughness. Their

1654
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 7: quarterback plays that way, their defense plays that way, so

1655
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 7: you're gonna have This is one of those when you

1656
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 7: don't want it to be a one score game headed

1657
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 7: down the stretch or a tie football game. You want

1658
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 7: to be able to have a good two score lead

1659
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 7: heading into the fourth quarter.

1660
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 4: Speaking of that defense, there are they are fourth overall,

1661
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 4: allowing two hundred and seventy two yards. They're fifth against

1662
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 4: the run, allowing eighty five yards. There are eleventh against

1663
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 4: the pass, allowing eight hundred and eighty seven yards. There

1664
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 4: are twentieth when it comes to giving up points. So

1665
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 4: they'll give them some points, but it's gonna be tough.

1666
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 7: It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be important too for

1667
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 7: the twelves to make some noise to kind of throw

1668
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 7: some time in on the offense. Obviously, all the teams

1669
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 7: practice a silent count and all that kind of stuff,

1670
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 7: but this stadium used to have a track of the

1671
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 7: false starts that they've created. We haven't seen those that

1672
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 7: stat up there in a while, Like not the way

1673
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 7: it used to be. So having some noise disrupting their

1674
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 7: rhythm that's gonna be important to Good.

1675
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 5: News for the Seahawks.

1676
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 4: Bad news for the Bucks is that they're probably gonna

1677
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 4: be without a Bucky Bucky over the running back seventy

1678
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,919
Speaker 4: one carries two hundred and thirty seven yards, nineteen receptions

1679
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: for one ninety three.

1680
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 5: And two touchdowns.

1681
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 6: Uh.

1682
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 5: He has the top five when it comes to total

1683
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 5: touches in the NFL. H. So you're gonna have to

1684
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 5: deal with with're shot White.

1685
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 4: Shot White on the year twenty three carries one hundred

1686
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 4: and eight yards and one touchdown.

1687
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 5: So you gotta take advantage of a situation there.

1688
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 4: They're not gonna have your number one running back, but

1689
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 4: with shot White has put together some good games.

1690
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1691
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 7: To me, I feel like the Seahawks have been in

1692
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 7: kind of like the same situation for like the last

1693
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 7: three games, winnable games. Uh that if you kind of

1694
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 7: relax just a little bit, it turns into the Buffalo

1695
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 7: game from last year. And so I think that's what

1696
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 7: they're gonna have to fight against, you know, looking at

1697
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 7: the injuries, looking at a banged up you know quarterback

1698
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 7: and Baker Mayfield. Uh, but then that defense has a

1699
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 7: chance to shut your offense down, and so there's gonna

1700
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 7: the complimentary football thing is gonna have to be real.

1701
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 7: Punting the ball, if you have to punt it, pin

1702
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 7: them back, make them have to drive long fills. Maybe

1703
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 7: the defense has to create some turnovers for our offense

1704
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 7: and make the feel shorter so you can you can't

1705
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 7: miss those opportunities to be able to take advantage of

1706
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 7: them to.

1707
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 4: Get more points, and you'll need your quarterback to continue

1708
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 4: doing what he's doing. Donald is tied with Lamar Jackson

1709
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 4: for the league league when it comes to yards perpacitive

1710
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 4: with nine point one. He's also number one in the

1711
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: NFL when it comes to yards per completion with twelve

1712
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 4: point nine. So far this year, he's seventy four to

1713
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 4: one hundred, nine hundred and five yards, five touchdowns and

1714
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 4: two interceptions.

1715
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 5: He's been really responsible with the football. I know you

1716
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 5: got those two interceptions both against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but

1717
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 5: you need Donald to continue to be who he's been.

1718
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this could be a game where, if

1719
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 7: you want to call it a breakout game, he could

1720
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 7: have a breakout because now it seems like they have

1721
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 7: a system to get everybody involved. Right, We've seen the

1722
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 7: tight ends score touchdowns. We've seen Cooper Cup make some

1723
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 7: catches JS and is doing his thing. The rookie got

1724
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 7: his first touchdown, So now they have a system to

1725
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 7: incorporate every everybody. It could be an opportunity for Sam

1726
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 7: Darnold to not just focus on one or he hasn't

1727
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 7: been focused on one person, but to just get more

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 7: people involved and then really have a big day throwing

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 7: the football, because it's gonna be tough running the football,

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 7: but I think they can have a little better success

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01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 7: with pass protection and pushing the ball down the field.

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 4: Like we mentioned last week, the Hawks rush FO one

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five yards and four point four per

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Speaker 4: per carry.

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 5: That was their best yards per carry this season. Obviously

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01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 5: that numbers inflated a bit because you have a couple

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01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 5: of big runs by K nine or whatnot. What's the

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01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 5: key to getting this run.

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Speaker 7: Game going well, I think the key is going to

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01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 7: be sticking with it. Like it's hard to see the

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 7: no gains in the negative yardage, but like we said,

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,839
Speaker 7: those wide zone and toss plays are having an impact

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01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 7: in a positive way on the play action pass, so

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01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 7: you have to keep doing them. But so they're gonna

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01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 7: have to find some efficiency in it so you're not

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 7: stuck in these second and long situations. I think the

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 7: running backs K nine, you know, the first first game,

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01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 7: he was pretty decisive in how he was running. Then

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01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 7: he kind of got back to some of his kind

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 7: of wanting to cut things back. If he gets back

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01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 7: to just stand to the front side, putting his foot

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 7: in the ground, you know, attacking the line of scrimmage,

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 7: I think they'll be great that way. But I think

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 7: they're gonna have to do a little bit more of

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 7: the you know, there's the nuance between the wide zone

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01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 7: and just outside zone, and then some of that Penn

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01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 7: and Poll stuff.

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 5: I think they can do some damage with that.

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01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, if they could disestablish and keep running it, like

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01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 4: you said, be stubborn with that thing, everything else is

1761
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 4: going to open up. This is a big game for

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01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: these guys. The Bucks are three to one. They're a

1763
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 4: good football team. They came back.

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 5: Against Philadelphia last week and show that they can compete.

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,839
Speaker 4: I don't know what to think right now. The Niners

1766
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: just beat the Rams. The Rams barely lost to Philly.

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 4: The Bucks came back and almost be Philly. There's just

1768
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 4: so much going on in the NFL. But that's why

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01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 4: I love it. It's not college football to where you're

1770
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,879
Speaker 4: gonna have these thirty point blowouts.

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01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's the first quarter of the season. Like

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 7: you know, people tend to become people, Teams tend to

1773
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 7: become who they are after about six or eight weeks,

1774
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 7: so that you're pretty much who you're gonna be, unless

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 7: there's just you know, you get fortunate and win a

1776
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 7: few games in a row of what have you, some momentum,

1777
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 7: but you're still in that first quarter. It coming from

1778
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 7: a preseason where a lot of starters don't play. Everyone's

1779
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 7: still trying to find their rhythm, trying to find their connectedness.

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01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 5: So you can see some games like that.

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 7: That's why I think probably the forty nine ers in

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01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 7: the had a chance to win tonight with all the injuries.

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:23,839
Speaker 5: Crazy.

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01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 4: I have a big great appreciate you, sir, for Paul

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 4: Moore do all the fans. We appreciate you, guys man

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: special thanks to Jennelane, Mike Morris, and Elijah or Royal

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 4: for joining the show. Our board operator Ian Douglas on

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01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 4: site engineer is a lovely Brendan Rodgers production assistant. It's

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01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 4: Hudson friends and our executive producer is National Shoba. The

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01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: Seahawks pre game show is live this Sunday, ten am.

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 4: Go to the game and then go watch your Mariners

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: get a w as well. All Right, until next time,

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01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,040
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