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Speaker 1: on my way after league. Got a bounced for other

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00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: the league three four years, never really got a chance

424
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: to play Bear. They're calling me up that pre summer. Yo,

425
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: we're whooping it. Uh, we're whooping uh. Down in the city.

426
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 1: I drove an hour and a half from Sack. Played well.

427
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: Nellie was watching long story. I get on the team.

428
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: So we're having a not a very good year, but

429
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm starting to play consistently and played good enough to

430
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 1: where they're ready to get rid of Mike Dunlevy and

431
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: Troy Murphy because I'm playing well. And we hear buzz

432
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: Who's coming, Who's coming this, Who's coming that? Mike dunne

433
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: what he wanted FUNDI dudes that want the best team.

434
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 1: Troy's cooler ship too, Mike Donald Milwaukee. So then uh

435
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 1: so I remember the day the trade went down, they

436
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 1: told us who was coming, and we're like, wow, funk

437
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: we get there. But we only had like seven dudes

438
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: that day. Maybe I want to say we played the Lakers,

439
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: the Clippers, we were in l A, got beat. But

440
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: then y'all came and just became an instant brotherhood, like

441
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: you guys had the connection already. I didn't know, really,

442
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: I just knew you guys from playing me and BT

443
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: had you had to nextion to b D. But it

444
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: was just like instant. So tell me what it was

445
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: like from Indiana to where you think a dream situation

446
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: is and then Jack gets you traded? Uh? What was that? Like?

447
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: That's fun? Up man under saying like it sucked because

448
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: I had Like I said, you know, I didn't finish

449
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 1: my point with the house, Like I spent all this

450
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: money in this house and Bro, I literally slepting it

451
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: three nights, Man, your house three nights. But that's how

452
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: fast it happened. It happened that fast. I gutted it, bro.

453
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: So I lived in a hotel for three months. Bro.

454
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: But whatever, but you know obviously coming there bro So.

455
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: The thing, the one thing I can't say about um

456
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Indiana and I think what I think what we bought

457
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: to that team was the brotherhood kind of vibe. You

458
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that was the same way

459
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 1: we we hung out in Indiana. You know what I'm saying.

460
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: I feel like the reason why we wasn't having the

461
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: success we sold to have on the court was because

462
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: we was enjoying nightlife a little too much. You know

463
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Remember because I can remember, you know too,

464
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: I could recall two trips, one in Toronto and one

465
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: in l A where like we get to the arena

466
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: for shooting around and like we bring it in and

467
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: like it smelt like nothing but like gray Goose and

468
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: Patron like it's just it's coming out of everybody pours

469
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: to the point where like Rick like, Yo, look, let's

470
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: just go back. Y'all gets to rest and come back

471
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: ready to play the play to night And you know

472
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, I think we was kind of

473
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: letting the lightlife kind of get to get the best

474
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: of us, just because you know, we felt like we

475
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: were so good we could kind of turn it on.

476
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: We wanted doing different things like that, but I think

477
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: we got traded. It kind of woke both of us up,

478
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: and I think that coming to the Golden State situation,

479
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: we knew that it was gonna be more of a challenge.

480
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: The team had been to the playoffs in thirteen years

481
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: and different things like that, so had gave us a

482
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: focus and gave us something to you know, to strive for,

483
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying, and then getting in the

484
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: locker room and realizing how many real dudes was in

485
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: the locker room. We was like, oh ship, we fell

486
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: on our we fell on our be nice you not

487
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: not me, not knowing you at all, and then realizing

488
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: you are the craziest motherfucker's I could ever meet. You

489
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Wow, inappropriate? You just a wild motherfucker.

490
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: That's just Matt. Then beat who is? I called him

491
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: the Walt Disney of who because he is just a

492
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: thousand people in the same day. One conversation, Monte was

493
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: a young killer, but but didn't know what was going on.

494
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: He was just waiting us and just teach you but

495
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: tell him just thing, just sick him on anything. Jay

496
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: Rich another dude ready to go ahead, and he was

497
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: coming back from injury, so he had a lot to prove.

498
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: I think we just came into a perfect situation. And

499
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: then we bought that family Vibe family dinners, and you know,

500
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: we connected our wives and our girls and different things

501
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: like that. And you know, in two months time, bro,

502
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: I felt like I had been with yall for obviously.

503
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: What really brought us together was, you know, down the

504
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: stretch when I we had to win like fourteen games,

505
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: even think about eighteen out of one, like that's crazy.

506
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: And we all looked at each other, and I think

507
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: it was because of those five six weeks beforehand of

508
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: building that we could look at each other and know, like,

509
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, we can actually do this ship but enough

510
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: the court too. Is what people don't understand is like

511
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: it's crazy that you said, you guys are kind of

512
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: murdered on both inso Indiana and you thought you could

513
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: turn We burned it and Golden State too, but we had,

514
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: like you said, we have more, We didn't have a

515
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: We didn't have as much cushion, so we had to Okay,

516
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out and get fun up. We still

517
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: got to come out of hoop tomorrow. We did that

518
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: every single day. And I think what was unique about

519
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: our team to which I think, um, you know, I

520
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 1: think it affects the game now, is like we had

521
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: a type of team. We can hold each other accountable anything.

522
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Anybody can say anything to anybody, whether it hurt your

523
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: feelings or not. You got over it. You got to

524
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: be close, you know, to like stories where like one

525
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: of us is not playing and you come out the game,

526
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: we could choke on you and not be personal. You

527
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because if you don't have that

528
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: level of communication, you know, the seeing, it's like that

529
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: could be miss for me. Like you know, that was

530
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: a blessing, you know what I'm saying, being able to

531
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: play with y'all, and you know that that feeling that

532
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: we had during that time, I'm not ben't gonna lie

533
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: like after I moved on from there, I never could

534
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: recreate that, you know what I'm saying. Nowhere, I don't

535
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: think none of them, you know what I'm saying. What

536
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: we what we had was specially bro that we did

537
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: everything together and then off the court we went. Off

538
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: the court, we did every People don't realize like you said,

539
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: you said that was it was. It was a three

540
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: months span where we went from the bottom of the

541
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: West to the A seed and we the last night,

542
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: remember the Clippers had the Clippers lost to someone in

543
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: that was in Portland. We had beat Portland. Don't needed

544
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the Clippers to lose, and the Clippers lost to a

545
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: team they shouldn't have lost to. And we knew as

546
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: we were winning that they had lost, that we lost

547
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: our minds. Well, I remember that because remember that game

548
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: in Portland, I got kicked out and Don there was

549
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: a cable to He's like, I don't care about just

550
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: getting kicked out, just don't get suspended. We're gonna make

551
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And he was walking me off the court.

552
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: I remember the video. I don't care about to get

553
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: kicked out suspended for the next game. We're gonna make

554
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: the playoff. But you guys, you guys brought such an

555
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: amazing energy to our team. You know, I mean, both

556
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: as skilled as can be from the wing position, from

557
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: the all over the floor, but down something someone that

558
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: could do a lot of stuff in a bigger player,

559
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: because people don't really like that's Nellie ball to y'all.

560
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You're guarding, y'ell. Mean you

561
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm playing the five, y'all Remember that?

562
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: Do y'all remember every time we played y'allmber The next day,

563
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: I couldn't practice it nothing because that was used to

564
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: we had. I had the front of them in front

565
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: of someone that's seven four meets and then he's gonna

566
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: be needing you all in your back. So I never

567
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: like every time we played them, the next day, I

568
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: could not remember for the game. He's like, different, I

569
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: ain't started the day. What you mean that you took

570
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: yourself out to start? They fun that they started to day. Man,

571
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I do that on purpose too. I'm like,

572
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: why can't goose from them? We laughed at you until

573
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: we had to go at boosted in the bod mil s.

574
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you pay. Then the ship was crazy

575
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: and then like I said that, I was a too

576
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: much span And then we talked about the trade that

577
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: happened with Jay Rich and then the beginning of the

578
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: next season, my mom died, so I'm kind of out

579
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: the mix. You kind of fall out with Nelly and

580
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: that was it. We were the team was going. They

581
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: didn't resign Baron. The following year, we traded Jay Rich first.

582
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: J Richards gone first. Yeah, then Bed he was the

583
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: next season Becau. Remember the next season we won forty

584
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: eight games, make the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, Denver. Then that

585
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: night Denver one, they beat the Clippers and they got

586
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: in and we and we lost. And that was the

587
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: first time I smoked. I smoked weed. Yeah lost. It

588
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: was after we lost in Utah, right, it was. I mean,

589
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying it was no no. It was the second

590
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: year after we figured we were in the playoffs no more.

591
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: That's the first time I smoked, wasn't that was remember smoked?

592
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: You had the drug test the next day in Phoenix.

593
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Diluted it because what happened was y'all told me because

594
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: the trainer called me on the way to the gym

595
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: and was like, yo, you gotta piss test. I'm like,

596
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. First ever, first time

597
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: I ever smoked. Everyone came to my room. Everyone, I

598
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: got off the bus, everybody was he told me. I

599
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: got off the bus and I went the Whole Foods

600
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: and I got that Sony number seven thing y'all told

601
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: me to get. I got that. I drank it that

602
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: she was disgusting, and I just started pissing all day,

603
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: pissing all day. So I got to the game and

604
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm nervous, so I don't piss. When I get there,

605
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: I tell him I can't pissa after the game. So

606
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: remember y'all was waiting on me and everything, and when

607
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: I pissed, it was just all water. So that's when

608
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I realized, you get a dilute test, you get one one.

609
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: So that was my one. That's how I passed. I

610
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: had right, it was all water. He put the thing in.

611
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: He was like, this is all water and I was like,

612
00:28:51,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: what you want, athlete? What you mean hydrated? Got me that?

613
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, that that was the first. But I remember

614
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: that night and I was paranoid in that room and

615
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: called liquid man. Y'all had me, y'all had me. I

616
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: was high because you smoked, smoked, but you would never smoked,

617
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: never smoked. But you wasn't really passing it up though.

618
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real, like you burned with used

619
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: to it. But I when I got to my room

620
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: and got weird, got weird. Ship when I got in

621
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: that room, bro, and we we always talked about the

622
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: game six after we won. That night was like all

623
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: the stuff we don't you remember what you remember from

624
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: the night, man, So you know I didn't. So if

625
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: you remember, you know I had my wife with me,

626
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: so I didn't get a chance to go with you boys.

627
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That night, But I remember

628
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: going to the city, um, that Italian restaurant we go

629
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: to all the time, and like literally we walked in.

630
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: Everybody like stood up cheering. You know what I'm saying.

631
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: We was rock so i' I really I really believe

632
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: that one of us could have got got away with

633
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: murder that year. Hot When I tell you when I

634
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: never see like my biggest world James, I've been in

635
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: winning markets, but I've been I've seen been a winner.

636
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. People the way they carried us

637
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: and go to the States, sat us down in the city.

638
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: I think they would have the body knocked somebody off

639
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: and there was some dudes walking down the street there

640
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: to help you get rid of it. I believe that

641
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: they loved us. Bro We had like you talk, you know,

642
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: like the real authentic culture of Oakland and all that

643
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: that we had the sun with us. That's why I

644
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: tell people when I went back to seventeen and got

645
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: a chance to win the ring, they talked about that

646
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: we believe team more than the current success they had,

647
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: And then blew my mind. I'm like, you've got Steph, Katie,

648
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: You've got these we believe is that's our heart, that's Oakland,

649
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: that's this, that's that. And then to see the other

650
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: players like Steph and Katie and them do show love

651
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: to our team too. Were in the jerseys and the

652
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: warm ups and all that show. I'm just like, like

653
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I still got my career about that.

654
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: So I go and show my face all in the supermarkets,

655
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: all look the open lines for me, discount the ship

656
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: out of my growth like it's crazy out there that

657
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: night man, and I remember obviously talking to y'all like

658
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: the next day and hearing some of the stories about

659
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: smoking with coaches and all that other stuff. So you

660
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: didn't go with us to Snoop Bow telling it had

661
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: to be buried with bed and probably would me it

662
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: had to be And when I talked about what you

663
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: said when he was like pop Ridle, you heard the story. Yeah,

664
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: that's it must have been baring now that one me

665
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I was with, I was I was the wife. He

666
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: did the right things. You did what you're supposed to

667
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: do because it wasn't up in trouble that night you

668
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: supposed to do had a blast blast. So now you've

669
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: been out of the NBA for six seven six years

670
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: season crazy right? It flies, yo, know what I'm saying that,

671
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: you know I'll be saying I'm out sixteen. So what

672
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: was it like? You know, you didn't go to Collie

673
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: so you went from high school to the NBA, made

674
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: good money. Now you're retired at what how are you?

675
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Thirty four? So I had I had knee surgery right

676
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: um and I think two thousand and twelve or whatever,

677
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: and got staff infection from the surgery. So um. You

678
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: know during that time, I thought I was going to

679
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: die the whole ship. I was sucked up two weeks.

680
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I lost like forty pounds, Like I was skinny, like

681
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: you bro, he was looking like on that one movie. Yeah,

682
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: so I know how to get skinny. I was gonna

683
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: get sick of something, you know. I'm all with all

684
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: the diets and all the other ship eat grass and

685
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: leaves and now you see anything. That's why I asked

686
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: them early in the interview with them dons. I know

687
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Al used to suck them. I could eat snack man.

688
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: And he always used to be in the locker room

689
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: with like three of them waste wraps on, always doing

690
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: crunches the whole time before anybody we played together. I

691
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: always was on the wait things. Yeah, he always because

692
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: news at any second. He was like you were fat Herington,

693
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: get on the scale. I'm like, you bitch, ask whatever.

694
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's why I was always working out over

695
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: everybody in the restaurant. He's done crunch everywhere. I always

696
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: have a six pack, but I got a six pack

697
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: after basketball, and I'll tell you how. But when I um,

698
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, so I had to start, had the staff

699
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: infection messed me up. Um. So the next season, I

700
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: pretty I went to play in Orlando, didn't play the

701
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: whole year. I played six games or whatever. So I

702
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: always avoid that year out of my mind, but I'll

703
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: acknowledge it now. I got in shape that next summer.

704
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: Um went to Washington played for the Wizards. Uh, got

705
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: hurt after like the six or seventh game or whatever

706
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: went down, came back the last twenty games of the season,

707
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: made the playoffs for the first time out there. Whatever

708
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: had some success, but you know, my nieces, I was

709
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: backing forth from my knee, and the team didn't know

710
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: if I could hold up a whole season, so they

711
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: wanted me to coach and then going to active roster

712
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: after all Star break, right, And I figured that was

713
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: a setup. Right. I'm like, they don't even make no sense,

714
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: thinking like you're gonna ed up coaching the whole year.

715
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, I'm cool on that.

716
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: Get a call from Stefan stuff was like what you're doing?

717
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: I was like chilling. He was like, you're in shape.

718
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I was like yeah. He's like you're in shape shape

719
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: and you know, like stuff is a weird though with

720
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: all this stuff. He's like you're in shape shape. I'm like, yeah,

721
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm in shape. He like, come playing China. So I'm

722
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: like China. He's like, yeah, I can get you like

723
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: two millions tax for you money, blah blah blah. Just

724
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: come playing China. So I'm like, I don't know about that.

725
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: So he called me a week later, he like, you

726
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: got a team yet? I was like nothing yet. He

727
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: was like, just come playing Chinese, like staying shape. And

728
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: he said you'll be done by all star breaking team

729
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: with people up because you went rhythm. So I'm like,

730
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: now that makes sense. I was like all right, cool.

731
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: So I go over there and I go to Fuji

732
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: and Um and I knew when I was landing that

733
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna make it. I'll tell you like, I

734
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: came so okay. When they sent me over there, I

735
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: had to go get my Chinese visa, so I had

736
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: to stop and hung calm so when you if you know,

737
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: when you get the asia, like if you don't, you know,

738
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: do the melotonin thing and get on the pattern, like

739
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: you would just pass out in the middle of the

740
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: day and be sleep until like three in the morning,

741
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I did that for

742
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: three days, like I could not stay up. So I

743
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: finally wake up and you know, it's my flight. So

744
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: I get to Fujian and as I'm coming out of

745
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: the clouds and show I look and it's just like

746
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: it's like crazy, it's like third world country, like as

747
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking out the window. So at that time, I

748
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: knew right when I got out the clouds, I was like, oh,

749
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it out here or whatever. So

750
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: I went there played there. Um they told me that

751
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: you know, my center was gonna be the next yeah,

752
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean or whatever. So I get there and the

753
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: kid he's good, not great. You know what I'm saying.

754
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: Our team sucks. You know, we're getting our ass smack

755
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: in preseason. So after like the fourth preseason game, I

756
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: went to the GM and it was a lady. Her

757
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: name was Ricky and she knew nothing about basketball, but

758
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: she's the GM. She makes all the decisions. So I

759
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: go to Ricky and I'm like, Ricky, look, you told

760
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: me this team was good. It's terrible. I was like,

761
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: I want you to find me a replacement. I want

762
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: to get out of here. So she's like, okay, okay,

763
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: she calls my agent. He calls me like, YO, just

764
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: tough and out blah blah blah blah blah. So I

765
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: played two games and then I call her back and

766
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, YO, give me out of here, like I'm

767
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: giving you till Thanksgiving. So long story short, she finds

768
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: somebody DJ White or whatever. He comes and replaces me.

769
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: So I come back home. So when I got back

770
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: after that, you know, no teams was calling. So that's

771
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: when I realized, like, it's over. You gotta start figuring

772
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: out what you're gonna do next, you know what I'm saying.

773
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: And at that time, I had already started working on

774
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: something you know what I'm saying, which was obviously the

775
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: cannabis space. So you know, I was able to transition

776
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: into something else, walk us through this cannabis journey because

777
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I tell people like, you're at the forefront of it.

778
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: And one thing I too, I definitely want to come

779
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: in you. I think because we're friends and were all type,

780
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: we really don't show how much we appreciation respect you

781
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: have we have for you for what you're doing in

782
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: this space. Man, you're doing some amazing ship across the board. Man.

783
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: So I just want to congratulate you. Man. It's good

784
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: to be to see you, you know. I mean I'm

785
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: looking up to you in this space because I'm in

786
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: the space as well, but just to see the moves

787
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: you're making and and how you're giving back and how

788
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: you're really you know, opening up other athletes eyes and

789
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: making them realize, Okay, this is something we can invest

790
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: and we missed. You know, this is our prohibition, this

791
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: is our this is our this is our goal rush.

792
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, this is cotton. Yeah yeah, I mean we

793
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: can eat off this. So I just want to start

794
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: with that we we appreciate what you're doing in the space, man.

795
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: So but tell us a little bit what you are

796
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: what exactly is explained viola to us? Yeah, man, So

797
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you know it all started, you know,

798
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: back when I was playing with the Denver Nuggets. Um.

799
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: You know, I was there right when you know that

800
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: medical program got started, and you know I'm a newspaper guy.

801
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I think probably because of our rookie year that they

802
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: can me get so many newspapers. I got the custom

803
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: to like just grabbing the newspaper all the time. So

804
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: while I was there, you know, I was always reading

805
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: the paper and you know, obviously the sports section a

806
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: lot of the times, but there was always stuff about

807
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: cannabis in there, telling stories about you know, kids that

808
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: have epilepsy and seizures and how cannabis oils was affecting

809
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: their life, or how people you know that HIV a cancer,

810
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, how cannabis was giving them a better quality

811
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: of life, you know, you know in their last days. Um,

812
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: even just the benefits of cannabis towards glaucoma and other

813
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, diseases or whatever. So when my grandmother, you know,

814
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I convinced her to come see me play out there.

815
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: Um you know, she got there and you know, we

816
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: started talking and she started taking all this medication, and

817
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm maximum, what's wrong with her? And she started telling

818
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: me these things, and you know, one of them was glaucoma.

819
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: So I was excited because literally like two days before that,

820
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: I was reading about reading something in the paper about

821
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: the benefits of you know, cannabis for glaucoma patients. So

822
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: I started telling her about it, and you know, I'm

823
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: calling it cannabis. And then finally she, you know, she

824
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: asked me, well, what is cannabis? And I was just like, uh,

825
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's marijuana weed. And she was like refa.

826
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: She's like, you're telling me, Reefa's gonna help me. Like,

827
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: no way, Reef, We're gonna help me, and she just

828
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: shuts it down. So the next day I come home

829
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: and you know, she's sitting in the kitchen and when

830
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: I walked and she's squinting the eyes and she's like,

831
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: is that your baby doll? And I'm like, what's up, grandma,

832
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: and she's like, my eyes are so bad today, I

833
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: can barely see. So I was like, you take all

834
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: that medication and it doesn't work. I'm like, why don't

835
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: we just try cannabis, and you know, we'll just keep it,

836
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, on the lower two between us, right. And

837
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: obviously now I'm told millions of people, right, which is cool,

838
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: but you know, she was just like, I'm in so

839
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: much pain to day I try anything. So I had

840
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: my boy go to the dispensary. He brought back Vietnam

841
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: cush we're vaporizing for in the volcano bag that you

842
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: could tell neither one experienced smokers, right. She hit the

843
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: bag three or four times. And why it was funny

844
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: because when she was smoking it, she was hitting it

845
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: and blowing it out her nose perfectly like before. Like

846
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: she's like, not smoked a cigarette one time when I

847
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: was sixteen whatever. So she hit it, take it downstairs,

848
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: I take a nap. Wake up from my nap. I'm like,

849
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: let me go check on her to make sure she

850
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: ain't done in climbing. The walls are going crazy, and

851
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: I go downstairs and the doors closed, so that I

852
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: was like, really what to expect, right, So I knocking

853
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: the door, and when I poked my head through the door,

854
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: her backs are doing She's looking down and I'm just like, Grandma,

855
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: how are you doing? And she turned around and she's

856
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: crying tears and she's like, I'm healed. I haven't been

857
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: able to see the words of my Bible and over

858
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: three years. So she was downstairs reading a Bible. And

859
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, if anybody know anything about Viola harringson bro,

860
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Like I mean, if she's not going to heaven. We're

861
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: all going to help sure we don't have a chance.

862
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: Like when my grandfather died and young, she never remarried.

863
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: She married the lord and she was the treasury at

864
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: the church. She ran all of the communion like she

865
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: the one for her ex first experience with cannabis and

866
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: for her to go read a Bible to me was

867
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: like guys talking to me, you know what I'm saying.

868
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: So it just inspired me to start learning you know

869
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And now I'm starting to take these

870
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: newspaper articles way more serious. Damn, this is this is

871
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: this is something that obviously we've been lied to for

872
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: a very long time, but this is something that can

873
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: really like help people. Like I said, I went through

874
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: the education process. That next year, I called, um, you know,

875
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: my co founder, you know, because he was the only

876
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: person that I knew that had some you know, experience

877
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: in growing cannabis, and we came to Colorado. We looked

878
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: around at all these different opportunities. I asked me, I said,

879
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: you think you can do this? He was like yes,

880
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: And we found our first building, a twelve thousand square

881
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: foot facility and Denver, Colorado. We became caregivers in the beginning,

882
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: so all of our patients either had HIV a cancer,

883
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: so we used to go strange that was heavy Indica,

884
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: and uh, that's how we started, bro. And you know,

885
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: we started there and you know, inten is when you know,

886
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: we got issued our first license, so we had to

887
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: name the business something. And you know, obviously you know,

888
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: we sat there and we decided we wanted to name

889
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: it after the person that inspired us to get to

890
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: this point, and you know, we named the Viola. So

891
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: that's how Viola got started. What are some of the stuff,

892
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: I know, what's important to you in this space. I mean,

893
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: you're not doing it for the financial game. You did

894
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: well for yourself and in sports and other investments, But

895
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: tell us why what drives you in this space and

896
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: be honest. Like when I first started, you know what

897
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it was about you know, being able to

898
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: have some extra cash in my pocket and help people. Right. Um.

899
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Once I started realizing how the you know, the candidates

900
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: that we was growing, how it really was medicine, how

901
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: it was really helping and affecting people, I was like, Yo,

902
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: we're doing God's work, Bro, We're doing something with something

903
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: that's very natural. You know what I'm saying. This is

904
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: something that is grown. It can be grown anywhere. All

905
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: you needed sunlight and water. That's not a drug Compared

906
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: to all this other stuff that they recommend that we use.

907
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: We take too many of them, we die. Um, you know,

908
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: most times whatever we're taking, the other side effects of

909
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: works and the thing that we're trying to cure, you

910
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's when I realized. I

911
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is God's work man, And you know,

912
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: it really just inspired me to, you know, leave basketball

913
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: alone for the most part completely. You know I did.

914
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: I played in the Big Three or whatever, and that

915
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: was more just to be able to hang out with

916
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: my guys kicking on the weekends and stuff like that.

917
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: But my day to day businesses has been cannabis. And

918
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: as I've been going through this journey, I realized, like,

919
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: obviously I'm having a lot of wins and a lot

920
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: of success, but when I go to these different events

921
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: and different things like that, I'm the only one in

922
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: the room that looks like me. And when I think about,

923
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: you know, how cannabis was used to pretty much tear

924
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: down you know, the black and Latino community now that

925
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: there's this billion dollar industry and we have no representation,

926
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: Like I have a huge issue with that. That's really bullshit.

927
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: And once I started to realize that, I was like, wow, Like,

928
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we're doing we're doing our part in

929
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: regards of you know, building a brand and you know,

930
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: helping people with the medicine, right, but what are we

931
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: doing to uplift our people? What opportunities are we providing

932
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: for them? And when I asked myself that at that time,

933
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: I didn't have any answers. At that point is when

934
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: I decided to, you know, pivot our company and you know,

935
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: our company now is a lifestyle cannabis brand with purpose,

936
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: and our purpose is about empowering and up lift in

937
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: the black community. All people. They always want to talk

938
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: about jobs and this and that, Like your jobs are cool,

939
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But like we want ownership,

940
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I said, when you

941
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: think about you know, eighty five per cent of all

942
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: drug arrests and the Black community all cannabis related, you

943
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and we only represent three percent

944
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 1: of diversity and cannabis. How does that even make sense.

945
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: I feel like what I'm doing is putting myself to

946
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: be have a seat at the table, and by me

947
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: having to seat at the table, I can now come

948
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: back and turn back and talk to my brothers about

949
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: it and tell them the opportunities the best ways to

950
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: come into this, because you know, to me, I think

951
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, like you know, for any players, you know,

952
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: moving forward, especially NBA players because of our brotherhood, right,

953
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: and you know you can get in touch with me anyway,

954
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: but to jump into the space without giving me a

955
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: call just makes no sense, you know what I'm saying,

956
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: because I know now, like you know, you know what's

957
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: gonna make money, what's really the longevity and cannabis. What's

958
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: amazing is that you know, to be honest, Like you know,

959
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I've been having conversation with y'all for a while, for years, right,

960
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: and every time I've talked to you all about it.

961
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like I'm an expert, right, But

962
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: what I know now compared to what I knew then,

963
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Ship you understand what I'm saying, but

964
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: now I'm like ten years in. One of the challenges

965
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna have is going to be capital, right, and

966
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: you know that's why, you know, I try to reach

967
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: out to many players and entertainers and you know, people

968
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: that look like me and that share, you know, share

969
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: the same interest in cannabis because we all smoke it,

970
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: we all love it, we enjoy it as part of

971
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: our lifestyle. And trying to get them to let's partner

972
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: up and do this together because you know, I feel like,

973
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: you know, just in sports, you know what I'm saying,

974
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Like Instagram, all these different things, all these things are

975
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: built off of us, right, and we don't get paid

976
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: for it. Right. So imagine if all the athletes from

977
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: all sports deciety, like we're gonna start our own Instagram,

978
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: would it would kill Instagram. It would be bigger than Instagram,

979
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's something. It's something

980
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: in our DNA. I don't know if it's a competitive

981
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: gene or something that doesn't allow us to come together.

982
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: It's just something and I guess it's from the four

983
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: hundred years of you know, what has been ingrained in us.

984
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: That's probably is what discycle that we can't break it

985
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: this time. But to your point, like what you said,

986
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: like this is generational wealth at risk, like these little

987
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contracts and ship like that. In the

988
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things of the world and real wealth,

989
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: that's nothing. That's not It's people that spend a hundred

990
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: million dollars in a day sometimes you understanding they can

991
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: do that, you know what I'm saying. So it puts

992
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: into things in perspective. And you know, my whole thing

993
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: is just like you know when you know one of

994
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: our new monic because is what is your purpose? My

995
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: purpose now is obviously you know number one is to

996
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: take care of my family, and obviously I have to

997
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: do that first, right um. The second thing is literally

998
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to empower and impact

999
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: other people lives. You know what I'm saying. I took

1000
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: you all the time I had to. I had to.

1001
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: That's time my lives already. I've done the boats, I've

1002
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: done the private planes, I've under crazy trips, I've had

1003
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: the craziest dinners and all that. You know, I say,

1004
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: what's next? What else can you do? That's what I'm

1005
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: trying to instill in my company's culture through everybody throughout it.

1006
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna build a brand, We're gonna scale a brand

1007
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: with purpose, and we're gonna do it with excellence, you

1008
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that's how we're gonna rock.

1009
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: And while we do that, we're gonna help a lot

1010
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: of people, you know what I'm saying. The gold of

1011
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: mine is to create a hundred millionaires in the next

1012
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: three years. We have another company that we go at

1013
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: the licenses or whatever. And you know, we just won

1014
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: two states. One states announced, the other states not announced

1015
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: that so I can't announce it. But between those three opportunities,

1016
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: those two those two licenses that we just won, I

1017
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: just made eight of my homeboys millionaires. Dudes that came

1018
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: from nothing, had nothing, you know what I'm saying. And

1019
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: I was able to, you know, provide opportunity that will

1020
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: allow them to you know, become millionaires. Bro, you know

1021
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like that's what I'm trying to

1022
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: do with Viola, you know what I'm saying. And I

1023
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: just hope and pray that one day I could get

1024
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: to support of my other brothers that's like me, so

1025
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: that we can really go out here and really impact

1026
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: the world, like people die for ship like this, what

1027
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: we're trying to do you know what I'm saying, Like,

1028
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: for real, you know what I'm saying, you try to

1029
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: uplift the whole, you know, generation of people. You know

1030
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And you know what we need to

1031
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: realize is like you know, I'm not racist by any means,

1032
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: but I'm woke. We live in the NBA and all

1033
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: that type of ship. We live in a different worlds,

1034
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: not the real world, right, but I've allowed myself to

1035
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: be vulnerable and be accessible to the real world. You

1036
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying in our generation and our race

1037
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: to our generation, but our race is last bro of course,

1038
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like everything has more rights than Black

1039
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 1: people when you really think about it, right, I feel

1040
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: like the only way that we can change this cycle

1041
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: is we're gonna have to do it through you know,

1042
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: economic growth and coming together, you know what I'm saying,

1043
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: and creating our own ship. That's hours that can nobody

1044
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: take from us. And I have so many ideas if

1045
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: us as black athletes came together and we can do

1046
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: stuff that you know, we talk about creating an environment

1047
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: where our families never have to work again. We can

1048
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: do it. We just got to do it together. Put

1049
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: our egos aside. We all get one percent, we all

1050
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: get half a percent of something that's gonna be worth

1051
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: trillions of dollars. You understand what I'm saying. Now, That's

1052
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: how we make sure our family never ever struggle again,

1053
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know that's what

1054
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: Viola is about. Bro. We're just getting started, you know.

1055
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like, you know, five ten

1056
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: years from now, you know, I think number one hundred

1057
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: millionaire hundred millionaires goal will be accomplished, and then after

1058
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: that I could turn into thousands that we're trying to

1059
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: change the narrative. Man, it's it's our time, man, It's

1060
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: just it's been too long. We're too talented. You know.

1061
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: There's too many industries before us that we pioneered that

1062
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: we don't have no ownership in. And I think that

1063
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: obviously because of those times, and I don't feel like

1064
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: we had the proper resources to be able to take

1065
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity. But this fucking time, if we

1066
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: don't and we end up customers again, we fucking played ourselves.

1067
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: And it's and that's and that's it, period. I like it.

1068
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: So you're big on the evolution of I mean, like

1069
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: you said, it's been going on for a long time,

1070
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: but really kind of bring it to the forefront. I

1071
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: take pride in this as well. It's kind of being

1072
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: the shield for guys that are playing right now. We

1073
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: can talk about it, we can educate, we can continue

1074
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: to spread our arms and empower people. But athletes are

1075
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: still stuck. We're still punished for it. Guys losing their career,

1076
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: they're losing money, painted as a bad person because of this,

1077
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: you know, so so talk about a little bit about

1078
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: how you feel cannabis and professional sports go hand in hand. Yeah. So,

1079
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: you know when I first started in the league, you know,

1080
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: I was one of the guys that when I was

1081
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: a square, I was like, what they're doing you know

1082
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They're not really doing nothing to help

1083
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: our calls being winners and all that. So I used

1084
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: to do the people like you always never helped. But

1085
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: I ain't know, bro, I ain't know, you know, you know,

1086
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: I grew up in that area where I was afraid.

1087
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: I was one taught that if I smoke weed, I

1088
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be a crackhead. Like who wanted to be

1089
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: a crackhead? I used to see crackheads in the corner

1090
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: of shake it and you know, no clothes on. I

1091
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: don't want it, wants that, so I'm not gonna smoke

1092
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: no weed to end up like that. You can forget

1093
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: about compare. But that's when. That's where I was from.

1094
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: That's how I was then. I've seen people getting locked

1095
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: up for it all the time, you know what I'm saying.

1096
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: So you know the other thing, I definitely Harrington does

1097
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: not want to go to jail. So cannabis was just

1098
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: wasn't on my radar. So you know, obviously, once I

1099
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: had my experience, and it took for me to have

1100
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: my experience because I've seen y'all use, I've seen y'all smoke,

1101
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: and I've seen y'all still be successful, right, But I

1102
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: still at that time, I felt like it wasn't for me.

1103
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: But once I got introduced to it, and then once

1104
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I educated myself on the medicinal benefits of it, it

1105
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: made me just go back and think about my career

1106
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: and what I put my body through. And you know,

1107
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: I was hurt a lot of the time I played.

1108
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: All the time I played hurt, I didn't miss a

1109
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: lot of games. I was you know, I've always had

1110
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: knee something by bothering my knee in my back whatever.

1111
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: And you know what the trainers did. They just gave

1112
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: me antime, matorious anything. It gave me muscle relaxes, you know,

1113
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: if it was really bad, they give me you know,

1114
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: the good stuff, the ox season or whatever. Right, just

1115
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: whatever it took for me to be comfortable enough for

1116
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: being back on the court, to get out there on

1117
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: the court and play. Once I educated myself, I realized

1118
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: all the side effects and all these different things because

1119
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: I took anti inflammatories for seven and a half straight years,

1120
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: bro two in the morning, one at night. And I

1121
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: needed that just to be able to get up and

1122
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: feel good enough to go out and work on my

1123
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: craft in the way I felt like I needed to.

1124
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: And you know, when you think about all the side effects,

1125
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: like I said, potentially, and you know, I'm still living right,

1126
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: so the effects may be coming. You don't have to

1127
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: happen right now that I made filio those effects when

1128
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: I turned fifty or something. But could you imagine if

1129
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I was educated enough to know, and I had accessible cannabis,

1130
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Why I could take a

1131
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: tincture under my under my tongue, or I could use

1132
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: a topical and rubbing on my my areas where I'm

1133
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: in pain. And you know, when I realized that, and

1134
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, talking to other athletes, and you know, once

1135
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I started becoming more of an advocate, more athletes coming

1136
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: to me like, Yo, we love what you're doing. This

1137
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. We should be able to be able to

1138
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: have access. That's when I started to speak on it,

1139
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: and it inspired me to you know, start aligne products

1140
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: that you know, professional athletes could have access to that

1141
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: had you know, zero percent T a C. Which is

1142
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: obviously the main concern with sports leagues is that one

1143
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: property or that one cannabinoid in the plant. It's T

1144
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: A C is what's really banned. So you know, I

1145
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: started my company, Herrington Wellness, and you know, my first

1146
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: line that I launched is replay you know, so as

1147
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: a replay him extract product um that you know I

1148
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: use for recovery, you know. And you know, one of

1149
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: the reasons why when I got done playing, or inspired

1150
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: me to push me out the league was my knee.

1151
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: Like I could not get swelling out of my knee.

1152
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: And because of the swelling, it always you know I

1153
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: was always in pain. That's the same that you went

1154
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: article across seas and had that surgy. I went to

1155
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: I went to right, I went to Germany. Me I

1156
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: had a procedure. I had every single procedure you could

1157
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: have here in the United States trying to figure out

1158
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: my knee and not until I've finished my formulation to

1159
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: replay and was able to use it and use it consistently,

1160
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: that all the information is out of my knee. And

1161
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: that's the only reason why I was able to play

1162
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: in the Big Three was because of this cream that

1163
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: I had made um and because nothing else was working.

1164
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: Now that you know I had these products, and you

1165
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: know it's not only my company's other companies that are

1166
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: doing you know that that have products and stuff like that.

1167
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like CBD is going to

1168
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: be the gateway into professional sports. And I think that

1169
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: people need to wrap their head around at all. Cannabis

1170
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: isn't bad and even the t A C side is

1171
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: not bad. You know what I'm saying, is it still

1172
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: that stigma on it that we are every day changing

1173
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the things that I prided

1174
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: myself on, and you know, having people like you know,

1175
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: stack being you know, very supportive when we played in

1176
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: the Big Three. You know what I'm saying, We we

1177
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: let everybody know about our cannabis because to me, once again,

1178
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: it was changing because me and him was the best

1179
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: two players in the league, right we both had all

1180
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: these other things going on. He's doing TV, I'm running

1181
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: my company, and we use cannabis every day. And look

1182
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: at the success, look at the winds that we're having

1183
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: while we're using it. And I thought that was very

1184
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: important that we did that and to let people know, like, look, man,

1185
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: like I'm a father for you know, I manage a business,

1186
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: I manage a household, I manage all my other investments,

1187
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: I managed family. I still hoop and I smoke weed

1188
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: every day. And that's not true that when you smoke,

1189
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be stuck on the couch, and especially when

1190
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: you have access to CBD, CVD is not going to

1191
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: do nothing. But actually, hell, I think that, you know, obviously,

1192
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: with Baseball made the huge announcement that they're no longer

1193
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: testing in the minor league. They never testing the big

1194
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: leagues anyway, but making that announcement now says that pretty

1195
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: much cannabis is legal man. I'm surprised that they did

1196
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: it first, you know what those what I was, I'm

1197
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: not because there was never testing for it, but was

1198
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: really what was really unique about it is that there

1199
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: was no backlash, zero like none zero. It was on

1200
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Sports Center one day. They might have touched on it

1201
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: the next day because it was having those meetings and

1202
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: that was it. Why do you think that is? I

1203
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: think because no one care. The fans do not care

1204
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: if players have access to cannabis. I don't think they

1205
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: care anymore because it doesn't affect the game. It does

1206
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: not affect what they do. And you gotta remember we're professionals, right,

1207
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: so possibility comes with we can drink to We can

1208
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: drink as much as we like to drink. On players

1209
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: like to drink. So you like to drink, you like

1210
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: to smoke, Right, you don't show up to the game's drunk.

1211
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: It's responsibility. How many teammates. I've had one teammate that

1212
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: showed up to a game drunk, but he was not playing.

1213
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: He was in the back, you know what I'm saying.

1214
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: He was sitting on the bench, he wasn't playing. I'm

1215
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: just not about to go and lace him up against

1216
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson or Matt Barnes and gonna go get high

1217
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: before I do that, play Katie or a game. I'm

1218
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: not blowing like I'm about to go like know you

1219
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: know what it right, bro. But what I'm saying is

1220
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: like we are with professionals, you know what I'm saying.

1221
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: And I think that fan bases understand that too. And

1222
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: you may have one or two guys, you know what

1223
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Every sport has that one guy that has,

1224
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, problems beyond you know what we can actually

1225
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: speak speak on. You know what I'm saying. And those

1226
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: are the guys that you have one bad apple. But

1227
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you live of players use cannabis, man,

1228
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: I just think it makes it for a better league,

1229
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: you know. I think you know, with players put themselves

1230
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: through to get themselves ready to play the game, go

1231
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: through all the emotions of the game, within the game,

1232
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: after the game, and what we do is we run

1233
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: the liquor and we tell, go get me a bottle

1234
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: of sarat Go give me a bottle of do say?

1235
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: And you know we're sitting there and we're drinking, and

1236
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: now we drink to the point where you know, if

1237
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: you know if we're going to the next city or whatever,

1238
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: like you know, you're dehydrated, for um, you offer your

1239
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: game obviously, And just imagine if and I know players

1240
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: would do this because we all we're all looking or

1241
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: advantage right to feeling better, you know what I'm saying,

1242
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: Like it was one thing I laughed about all times.

1243
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: Like me and Wilson Chandler, two players that I know

1244
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: that have tried every in any kind of workout, medicine, uh,

1245
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: supplement that would make you feel better. I have not

1246
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: found anything as good as cannabis. So, like I said,

1247
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: just imagine after a game, a trainer walks around with

1248
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: a gummy bear, you know what I'm saying, with the

1249
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: edible that's you know, a hundred milligrams CBD at five

1250
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: percent T a C and gives that to a player.

1251
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: He takes that and allows him to start to relax.

1252
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: And as we know, right and as we know, you

1253
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: know the cannabinois, you know, it's a it's a natural

1254
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: anti inflammatory and like you said, it helps you sleep.

1255
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: So it's just so much good that comes from it.

1256
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: So I think that NHL is gonna be next. I

1257
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: think NFL's definitely after that because they got their collective bargaining,

1258
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: so they may end up being before NHL. But I

1259
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised the NHL did it this season just

1260
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: from some people I know, and then the NBA is

1261
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to do it, and they're open to it,

1262
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: you know. Adam understands that, and you know, I think

1263
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: that if any player ever decided to take that step,

1264
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: as far as we're saying, it's his right to use cannabis,

1265
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: especially players that play in cities or states that it's legal.

1266
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: Because with the state that you live in says that

1267
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: it's medicinely legal for you to have access to it

1268
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: if a doctor prescribes you for it. So how can

1269
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: the league tell you that you can't get the medicine

1270
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: that you're and they don't want that, you know what

1271
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, it could be forced if

1272
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: it had to be, But I think that, you know,

1273
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: the Players Association, you know, they're very open to it.

1274
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I talked to Michelle Roberts and Chris

1275
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: Paul and them guys all the time. Uh, they're on board,

1276
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, they they they they're they're supportive of what

1277
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: we're doing. And you know, now they're just waiting for

1278
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: just you know, small things, you know, like some form

1279
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: of a stamp of approval or or stamp that can

1280
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: say that these products are t a C free and

1281
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: but outside of the cannabis. So they're looking forward from

1282
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: somewhere FDA, someone like FDA certified the different things like that,

1283
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: And those are the things that I'm working on, you

1284
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, trying to figure that out. But

1285
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, we're very close, and you know, I think

1286
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: that all of our work is about to come to

1287
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: a head, and I think the player is about to

1288
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: have access anything. I really, like I said before we

1289
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: started this conversation, I mean, you've we've all kind of

1290
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: done it, you know what I mean. Like my I

1291
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: didn't try to keep it a secret, but you know,

1292
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: I smoked, so I came out right out the gates,

1293
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Post career, we did that

1294
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: Bleach report ship and kind of started running with it,

1295
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, so it was really my goal.

1296
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like it was my responsibility because

1297
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: I got popped towards the end of my career. I

1298
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: was getting drug tested when I was in Memphis, when

1299
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: I played for Memphis. I was getting drugs testing once

1300
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: a week and still smoking, and still you didn't, you know.

1301
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I just made it work. But to me,

1302
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: there's no other alternative. Like you said, I'm someone who

1303
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: I take a peel, my my stomach hurts. I mean,

1304
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really a drinker. I'm a social drinker. I'm

1305
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: not a sit back and just drink my sorrows away.

1306
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: So I've just always smoked that. I just knew what

1307
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: it did for me, you know. So the fact that

1308
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: there's now medical research backing that up, you know what

1309
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean. And because we can talk about it, you know,

1310
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: we can talk about our stories who were blue in

1311
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: the face. But until we started getting this these research

1312
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: behind us, when people start listening, you know what I mean.

1313
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: So I just think our experiences, like you said at

1314
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: the top of the line, you know the one percent,

1315
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: and you know professional athletes are one percent. If we

1316
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: can be functional and professional athletes and fathers and business

1317
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: owners and doing all this productive ship like, there has

1318
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: to be something to it, you know. Like I said,

1319
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: I got popped, and he said, there's probably over two

1320
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: hundred dudes in the in the drug program for weed alone,

1321
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: and there's four D players in the NBA. And I

1322
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: always say, like, I think it's n of us to

1323
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: use cannabis in some shape, form and fashion. And obviously

1324
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: one thousand percent in the all season. You know what

1325
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I see I could see like a

1326
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, you know what I'm saying, like with his

1327
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: wife on vacation, Like let's take this at a brier. Yeah,

1328
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: like what's wrong with nothing? You shouldn't be penalized for that.

1329
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: But imagine and if someone like a Lebron or a

1330
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: k D or something like that and came out to yah, yeah,

1331
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: I medicated to help me with Lebron spent at one point,

1332
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: it would probably take off that one point five milli

1333
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: dollar a year Lebron is paying for his body if

1334
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: he would you know, I mean he was because imagine

1335
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: that he would take someone like that. Katie did take

1336
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: a big step down because they invested in that cannabis

1337
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: company Canada. I think I think cannabis investments. I mean,

1338
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: you know there's players that you know that are definitely

1339
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: investing in stuff. But you know, to our point, like

1340
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, they're using, they're using, they're using more and

1341
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: there's more in the open than it was when we

1342
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: was and we was doing it. You know what I'm saying,

1343
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: Like we never sat in the club. Who smoke? We

1344
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: did everything? No, not not in not did now y'all

1345
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: just smoked, like in the club in front of everybody, Like,

1346
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: who didn't you didn't you? It was not that you

1347
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: want to call somebody right now right every teammate was

1348
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: not sing this kid, I'm called, are you kidding? They've

1349
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: been out the game too long? It was not, it

1350
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: was not. It was not. We were sitting in our area.

1351
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: He used to be standing up smoking with his shot

1352
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: and that was when New Year's was one time who

1353
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: we got on the phone, tell her we feel it

1354
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: right now. We felt we feel it right out. Dude,

1355
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: he had to ask you something, but I got a

1356
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: serious question for you. Do tell her what Al said? First,

1357
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: Al said, I don't know where he was at the time. Unbelievable,

1358
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: But Al said, we didn't smoke in the club when

1359
01:03:51,240 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: we wasn't Golden State. He said, were rolling. It don't matter,

1360
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: we're rolling, it don't matter. We're smoking right now? Said

1361
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: he said, Al didn't. Al didn't. I'm about to argue

1362
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: with them, y'all got did, but you gotta think just

1363
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: like you said, you just smoked to the second year. Yeah,

1364
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: I told every club by this, What do you mean?

1365
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: We tipped each bouncer ahead of dollars? We was good.

1366
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: So anyway you're bad? Yeah, where were you? We forgive you?

1367
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: Where were you? But anyway, like I said, you're like, now,

1368
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: these I just don't feel like like these motherfuckers shit

1369
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of this because of what we did

1370
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: right we started. Yeah, these guys are using so you know,

1371
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: I think that the numbers is like staggering and like

1372
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: how many players actually use use cannabis now? So you know,

1373
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: it's time for a change, and it's coming. It's gonna

1374
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: happen soon and later. I think we haven't even sooner

1375
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: than I thought, because a year I think we did

1376
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: our bleached the report thing. I think we said three

1377
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: to five years or whatever I was a year ago,

1378
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: So it might be right, might be right the third year.

1379
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: I think next year there going it's gonna be some movement.

1380
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: I think so. But talk about you know, rest in peace.

1381
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: The conversation you have had with Stern kind of the

1382
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: entry way, you know what I mean, because he was

1383
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: someone that was Stern was his his reputation speak. He

1384
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: was mafia, you know what I mean. And to sit

1385
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: down with him after he had handed the reins off

1386
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: the Adam and in the in the open, real conversation

1387
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: you guys had that made real headwaves. Yeah, man, it

1388
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: was obviously you know I didn't. It wasn't in the

1389
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: game plan, right, you know what I'm saying. I never

1390
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: was in my mind thinking like I gotta eventually talk

1391
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: to David Stern about this happened organically, you know what

1392
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was in at this Milk and conference

1393
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: here in l A. He was on the panel. You know.

1394
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: I went to go see him speak and afterwards, you know,

1395
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: walked up to me and the first thing he said

1396
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: was how's your knee? And I was just like, it's like,

1397
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy as memory I'm saying them like I'm al

1398
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: Aaronson and whatever and all these players like for you

1399
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: to remember that was crazy. But he's like, how did

1400
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: you need doing? I was like it's all right, but

1401
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: a little blah, and you know, I start telling him,

1402
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: you know what I was. He was like, what are

1403
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: you doing on here? So I was just like I'm

1404
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: just trying to learn, and you know, I'm trying to

1405
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: figure out what I'm doing do next. But I was like,

1406
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: right now, I'm in the cannabis space and you know,

1407
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: and he was just like, yeah, I live in uh,

1408
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: I live in Aspen and it's all kind of dispensaries everywhere,

1409
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, I drive past them all the time. And

1410
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's what I'm doing now. And

1411
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: I was just like, uh, you know, also, I want

1412
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: to figure out the way, you know, for players to

1413
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: have access to cannabis like that. And he's like, oh, no,

1414
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: hell no, blah blah blah blah blah whatever whatever. And

1415
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: I was just like, no, I'm telling you you gotta

1416
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: look at I said, you should look at it. It's

1417
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: more information out there now. You should let me come

1418
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: talk to you about it. And he was like fine.

1419
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: So it took me like eight months to get on

1420
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: this schedule, like literally like eight months, bro. So eight

1421
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: months later, I'm in New York. He tells me to

1422
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 1: come by and you know, he's so busy or whatever.

1423
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: He gave me like a twenty minute time slot at

1424
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: twenty minutes to meet with him. And I get there

1425
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: and you know, we started talking, and you know, my

1426
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: grandmother's story breaks the ice for everybody, like humanizes the plant.

1427
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: You know. I feel like, you know what I'm saying,

1428
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: at least what people are willing to be open minded

1429
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: enough to have a conversation at that point. And when

1430
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: I told him that, you know, he was just like wow,

1431
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: and you know, he's like, that's an emotional story. And

1432
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: then I just start telling about the players. I was

1433
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: just like, you know, you know, and I started with

1434
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: the whole responsibility thing. I was just like, you know,

1435
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: players aren't gonna come high. And then you know, he

1436
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: mentioned like back when he first took over, like that

1437
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: was a real that they was on co He was

1438
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: just like, you'll be amazed, guys will come you know,

1439
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: the game. I was talking to Jerry West the other

1440
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: day about something like that. When he was coaching. He

1441
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: was telling me something. I'm like, what as the coach,

1442
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: and then he knew. I was just like, damn right,

1443
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: it was worse he's telling him. So we're talking. So

1444
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: then I just I walked him through the day of

1445
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: a player for the most part, was like my first

1446
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I just like, yo, you know, I said,

1447
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: you probably noticed, but I said, you know, we wake up,

1448
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: we showered last music, get ourselves riled up, get to

1449
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: the stadium, you know, go through film, get riled up, play,

1450
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: go through the most of the game, and you know

1451
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: how it is with officials and the coaches and the fans.

1452
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, we really trained our

1453
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: by these like we train our bodies for real to

1454
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: play for four hours, right, we played twenty minutes, you

1455
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So after the game were still

1456
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: on one. We need something, like, we need something something

1457
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: to bring us down. The thing that we've reached for

1458
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: is the most unhealthy thing ever alcohol alcohol. Then we

1459
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: have injuries and ship like that in the first for

1460
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: the opioids and that's the worst ship ever. So you know,

1461
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: I explained that to him and the flights and this,

1462
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: and I said, I imagine we get an edible, we

1463
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: get a tincture, and get to the point where we

1464
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: can ask for some specific strains that we know that

1465
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: we'll do whatever we need, you know what I'm saying

1466
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: for recovery. He was just like, I never thought about

1467
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: it like that. That's a very very interesting way to

1468
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: look at it. And you know, he was like you know,

1469
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: we should talk again with to New York again, and

1470
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: we chopped it up again, and this time I had

1471
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: more research and I had like some paperwork that I

1472
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: gave him and stuff. And then that's when I asked me.

1473
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: I was like, you mind going on camera let me

1474
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: interview about this, and he was just like, let me

1475
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: read up some about it or whatever. And then he

1476
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: called me back a week later and he was like,

1477
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: I'll do a enterview with you know problem. So we

1478
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: did the interview, um and you know, because he's an attorney,

1479
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna say anything he don't want

1480
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: to say or you don't mean. So here I go

1481
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: me and the producers or whatever, trying to craft questions

1482
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: to get him to say, like players to have access

1483
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: to cannabis. Put in a roundabout way. I had list

1484
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: of seventeen questions. And it's impressive, man, you asked me

1485
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: all these questions without having something. But I'm looking. I'm like,

1486
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: and I go through first question, second question, third question,

1487
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: and literally he says the ship like said it. Bro.

1488
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, players should have access to cannabis, and

1489
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, they should really look at this policy. It

1490
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense anymore. You know, it's it's it's

1491
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: it's it's now documented. You know, information that says that,

1492
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's beneficial. And I looked at the producer,

1493
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: like what else you want me to do? That's all

1494
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: I came for. Like you said, it came out and

1495
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: you know the pack that it had, you know what

1496
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, obviously, I think it definitely. You know,

1497
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: it was a hit amongst you know, the brotherhood and

1498
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: the players and all that, obviously, but I think you know,

1499
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: with the commissions of these leagues and stuff like that,

1500
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: they had to take a look. I was speaking for

1501
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: all of us, you know what I'm saying, every sport,

1502
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And he was speaking for

1503
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: all the sports. And I think that, you know, someone

1504
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: especially like him because you know, he was a tyrant.

1505
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't play, you know, it was his

1506
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: way of the you know what I mean. And for

1507
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: him to say that, I think because everyone knows how

1508
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: he is, they had to look at it. I think

1509
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: that that's why that you know, that video was so impactful.

1510
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 1: And it's crazy too, because you know, I've been meaning

1511
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: every time I go to New York I've been meaning

1512
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: to hit him up and then next year, you know,

1513
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, he dropped that, you know for the most part,

1514
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 1: so you know, it sucks. You know, a lot of

1515
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 1: people after that the interview, they just knew that he

1516
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: was like, uh on an investor, like everybody, that's a

1517
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: first question. He's an investor, He's investor room like No.

1518
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: But you know, one of the things I was gonna

1519
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: ask some was actually, like to be on the board

1520
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: of my company, because I would been amazing just to

1521
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 1: have in sight a building business and changing, you know,

1522
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: the way people because you know, people proceed the NBA

1523
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: a certain way as a drug league and it's too black,

1524
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: too drug. And he had a vision. We talked about

1525
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: this on the Jump the a couple of weeks ago

1526
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: with Rachel you know what I mean. He had his

1527
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: vision of but he his ideals and what he did

1528
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: and and branding individual player like he had this whole play.

1529
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: So I may only imagine him sitting on your board.

1530
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Would have guided you guys. So that's what I mean

1531
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: with you know, with with doing with excellence is having

1532
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: more access to people. That's how we're gonna win, bro,

1533
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna win in this industry. I don't know how that.

1534
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna go, but we're gonna win.

1535
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: The mess is gonna get out on this. This is

1536
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna be one of our you know what I mean.

1537
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: We've all we've had some dope shows, but this one

1538
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: is so educational. Like I said, this is you know

1539
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: how important this is to me. You know what I mean,

1540
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: and I know how important it is to you. And

1541
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: to just keep pushing the word, you know what I mean?

1542
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: And like you said, everybody can do ship individually and

1543
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: probably be successful, but together we would be unstoppable town.

1544
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: Like we could like have ownership talking about jobs and

1545
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: sillery jobs. Anybody, man, you see this, any athletes, pass

1546
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: it to your homeboys, you see it? Hit me up,

1547
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: hit al up, hit jack up. Come together, come join

1548
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: our team and let's take this ship over. Man. Let's

1549
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: get on the NBA bro home stretch, get on the NBA.

1550
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: Let you think about the NBA today, how do you

1551
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 1: feel about it? It's cool, Um, I don't really like

1552
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: to watch it, you know what I'm saying. Um, I

1553
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: just you know I'm not a fan of a hundred

1554
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: and thirty four hundred and games you know what I'm saying.

1555
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,560
Speaker 1: And I just feel like it should be more pride defensively,

1556
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That. I know they changed

1557
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: the game to the point where you can't touch, you

1558
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But I think that it just

1559
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: needs to be more pride defensively, man. And then the

1560
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: whole life just some sometimes it almost seems like they

1561
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: don't care as much because they don't play. That's just

1562
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: how the game is. That's not everybody, but that's just

1563
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: some people. Like it's so see out there. It's just

1564
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: like damn, like are you kidding me? Like and then

1565
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: the resting, and it's like then you rest, you don't

1566
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: play the games. It's like when we came up, the

1567
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: game was the show. We took pride and playing eighty

1568
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: two games, playing four games and five nights. That's less

1569
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: practice that we have to really used to have to practice,

1570
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we go to war

1571
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: like I remember with stan Van Gundy, we used to

1572
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: motherfucker have to have taped angles and kneepaths and shoot

1573
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: around bro. Like we got to it, you know what

1574
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, We got to it. So it's funny too

1575
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: because like we're not even now. I'm two years removed.

1576
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: So when you talk like this, you're a hater. You're

1577
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: this year that. It's not that at all. This the

1578
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: game has completely changed. To me, I don't have as

1579
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: much as I respect the fact because it's it's continued

1580
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: to evolve. This is the sterns playing, you know, a

1581
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: global game. So people want to see highlights. They want

1582
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: to see three pointers, dunks and high scores. They don't

1583
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: want to see a defensive battle. They don't want to

1584
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: see a Detroit, Indiana tie. They do, but if there's

1585
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: no fight, like, who wants to see game? You mean,

1586
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: so the game is involved, But I feel what you're saying.

1587
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: It's just like it just doesn't seem like that competition

1588
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, it's just threes. You just

1589
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 1: run around shoot threes. And I talked to an official yesterday,

1590
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: Um that's into space, and he said to me, he's like,

1591
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are just so it's changing. You

1592
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: guys have been going. He's like, oh, they do it,

1593
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: shoot threes and they drops the whole they touch when

1594
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: they want to free throw. You know what I'm saying.

1595
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: So it's just but the game is, but the skill

1596
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: level they got incredible. They would today's game. I think

1597
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: I'd be solid. You know, I could do it, you

1598
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it wouldn't have been no inside.

1599
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: I just have to do everything from the outside. I

1600
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: wish I'd have been cool with because I had handled

1601
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: and then I can shoot. I think I would have

1602
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: been able to make this transition for you, you know

1603
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean when I came in the

1604
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,879
Speaker 1: league and we came in, it was inside out ball shagged.

1605
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Had to touch the inside before you even But by

1606
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: the time we was on the end and it was

1607
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: like yeah, and after yeah, it was like kind of done.

1608
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Now you book at Like

1609
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: I went to go see uh Oklahoma City play um

1610
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: the paces in the big Kid Turner. You know, he

1611
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: didn't touch the paint one time on the offensive. Then

1612
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: like I watched the I was near the entire game

1613
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: on the floor, and he did not touch the paint

1614
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: on the offensive in one possession. Bro Crashing not just

1615
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, like, what is going on? He's seven,

1616
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: but he's skilled. I'm just like, then, but you're not

1617
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: gonna touch the paint one time. We're gonna get one

1618
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: offensive rebound, one switch, nothing. But that's how the game

1619
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: is played. But you know, like I said, you know

1620
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: it's not it's not what I like to watch. For now,

1621
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe when my kids get into it, I can get

1622
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: back in. So there's not no players you like to watch.

1623
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course I like I should play. I like,

1624
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: you know, I like to I like Katie obviously. You

1625
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: know Brian is you know, my my goat. He let's

1626
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: talk about that. So you got give me your top

1627
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: three Brian Mike uh uh probably like shock all of

1628
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: them buckets Cold gave you, and you're just not gonna

1629
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: disrespect him. I'm not disrespecting him, just saying you asked

1630
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: me who my top is, saying who gave you more buckets?

1631
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: The Cold Code for said who gave you more buckers?

1632
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: At all of them? Think right, gave me all of

1633
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: us together, you get a lot of Code bucks. Stop it.

1634
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: Gold was Cold. I mean, Cod was the guy. But

1635
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm asking Broad is the best player because I feel like,

1636
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: just because you talk about the best basketball player, not

1637
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: the best killer instinct, you understand what I'm saying, the

1638
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: fact that he can play all five positions, the fact

1639
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: that he's done this ship for seventeen years consistently, no

1640
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: drop off at any time, and we've been saying, well,

1641
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: we're not we're big teeth in right now, like you're

1642
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: really feeling this. But I'm saying he's the best all

1643
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: around player of all times. There's no question. Don't give

1644
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: him that. But if you ask me, do I gotta

1645
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: start with I gotta start an organization and I need

1646
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 1: a bad motherfucker could him. No, I'm going with Mike. Really,

1647
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm going with Mike. Yeah, going with Mike. But outside

1648
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: of that, it's him dog hands down, that over magic Bird,

1649
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, no matter that I'm not who

1650
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: don't win the Clippers leg us. The only thing that

1651
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: the Clippers that scared me is because they keep doing

1652
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: all these dudes not playing and all that kind of rest.

1653
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't know those too, but but you know it's

1654
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: something to be said about, you know, you like respected,

1655
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it because you gotta build that

1656
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: camaraderie and that feel for each other. They're like, they're

1657
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: not like that to me, Like you know, you know, PG,

1658
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: it's still like evolving, you know, it's not like he

1659
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 1: had like a killer playoffs series before, you know what

1660
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's not like he just proved improving

1661
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: where you're like, you knowing the playoffs, he's about to

1662
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: just turn it up to the contract. That's what he got. No,

1663
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: he got a game. But I'm not listen, I'm not

1664
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: saying you don't have game or none of that. I'm

1665
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: just saying it's not like you know PG to be

1666
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: like when the playoffs come taking That's all I'm saying.

1667
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is like I feel like, you know,

1668
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: Kauai was able to do that last year. You know

1669
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that, Like that's rare, Like it's not

1670
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: a lot of players that can go ending out the

1671
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: lineup and all that, getting that and go here, that's

1672
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: go o second time. Right, Okay, So he's done it twice,

1673
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: so that my point being is like he's known for that, right,

1674
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: PG is not known for that, you know what I'm

1675
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: saying that nobody else on their team. So all I'm

1676
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: saying is like I would like to see them play

1677
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: more games together and start and take the season serious.

1678
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: They're taking it like this, see they take the Lakers

1679
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: game serious. They take that, but that's what I'm saying.

1680
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: So my whole thing is like, I don't know how

1681
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: that's gonna end up. I will say that I feel

1682
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: like the Lakers are taking every game serious, so because

1683
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: of that, that might play into it. If they don't.

1684
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: You know, if they don't like serious, it's up. The

1685
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: Clippers have me doing fifty cushups. So what I'm saying

1686
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: real quick, with the injuries you had through at your career,

1687
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: if load management with the thing, you think that would

1688
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 1: have put some years on your career. Um, if you

1689
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: really just sat because like I said, I tell people,

1690
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 1: because we entervieed the markets too, I said, we have

1691
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 1: to be protected from ourselves. Like at the end of that,

1692
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: we want to get out there. But if they have

1693
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: this research now backing it up that if you rest

1694
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: here there and I feel what I feel both sides

1695
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: like fans want to come see you play. But at

1696
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if it's about winning championships

1697
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: is what we make everything about, why would you not

1698
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: want your players to be the absolute most rest that

1699
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: could be. Knowing the fucking were and tear our bodies take.

1700
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, we both all know how firsthand our bodies say,

1701
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: so we're strategically rest throughout the season and start revving

1702
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: up at the right time. To me, post playoffs is

1703
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: the right time and start getting on. That's how fast

1704
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: we have, man. I mean, I understand it's more of

1705
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: just as I just don't respect it because I think

1706
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: that the part of the reason why it's the eighty

1707
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: two games season and all that is because it's a

1708
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: it's the is the journey is the journey. But so

1709
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: it's like I want to be tired in the end.

1710
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: I want want you to. I want to I want

1711
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: to tired and see all that. But why why I

1712
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: say it's different with that too, is because these kids

1713
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: now are playing more games before they get to where

1714
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: we're at. You played a lot of games because you

1715
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: came straight from high school. Excuse me, but the AU system.

1716
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: Now these kids are playing so much games, their bodies

1717
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: are so worn down by the time they get to

1718
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,879
Speaker 1: where the one percent get that their knees when they're

1719
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: coming in at a team, their knees are twenty seven.

1720
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeard needs manage it down there, manage it when I'm

1721
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: paying I'm coming out to watch you play. Maybe maybe

1722
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: that's the real talk that ship manage you because is

1723
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: the journey, you know. And then I feel what you're saying.

1724
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: But to me, like having kids in the game, I

1725
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: understand it now, you know. I mean, so I'm looking

1726
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: at it like this next generation, like it's if it's

1727
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: strategically done, it's the right thing to do. Like I

1728
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: have no problem. And we talked to lou Will. Lou

1729
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: Will said us hurt management, like he look he liked, Yeah,

1730
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: he want to play. I know about it. You know

1731
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He loved a whop. So I figured

1732
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: that they just they didn't want the media. Like his

1733
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: knees messed up his back, so I figured he was

1734
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: something's bobbing us. I've been talking about. Yeah, I'm talking

1735
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: about even guys on teams that it's not playing for

1736
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: a championship, I mean and doing low men and telling

1737
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 1: him or god us in his second year still developed, developing.

1738
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: We're not gonna tell you the rest of the year,

1739
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: what is going on? Bro? I hear. That's to go

1740
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: back and touching. What I said was what this what's

1741
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: coming out now is it's not even a you. It's

1742
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: the middle school basketball because they're not even learning nothing.

1743
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: So it's making it's making them worse. And they're playing

1744
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: a middle school basketball the whole school year getting hurt

1745
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: in that time. He was fine because they traveling, they

1746
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 1: learned a lot middle school and not learning nothing. So

1747
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: that's waste of the time. And that's why a lot

1748
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: of them getting hurt in middle school. That's like said,

1749
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: the school balls for nothing. Now, like like, that's why

1750
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm culturing my kids, Like I'm not letting them get

1751
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: wrapped up in even if basketball is love what they

1752
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: do for this what they do, but just it's such

1753
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: a dirty ground. But I like what you said, Like, man,

1754
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: thats how to dribble, like you to shoot, run, jumped

1755
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: the driven to not teach them drill. Just make sure

1756
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: you don't teach yourself how to phone his face and

1757
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 1: bust his motherfucking face over to get a whole new

1758
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: grill and flattened his nose out. But you know you

1759
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: once we all got new parlies over here. I'm talking

1760
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: about him. Turn a lot of ship, anybody, Man, let's

1761
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: get back to this ship. We've got the final um

1762
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: one of the one of the l A team. You think,

1763
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: so the Battle of l A is gonna year finals winner.

1764
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: Whoever wins, that's gonna win the finals. This shouldn't be

1765
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be that horrified. No, out of the East. No,

1766
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm just periods. Yeah, it's uh so it's one of

1767
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: the teams out of l A because that's fair, and

1768
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Milwaukee. It should be Milwaukee. But

1769
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: I just feel like sunk could get shut down. So

1770
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: not Philly, Boston, just Boston, just because I think I

1771
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: think the Kimber factor, the Kimber factor should step in.

1772
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like with with Philly there's some leadership

1773
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: issues there and like somebody can't. I think it's somebody

1774
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: got to take charge and it's just like that out

1775
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: and then obviously they playing well too. But I don't

1776
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: know Away. Yeah, I don't know anybody on the team

1777
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: but him, but they are a good team. But yeah,

1778
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: I would say I would say Boston and one of

1779
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: the l A teams. So the rivalry back, that's another

1780
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: vision they had, right, they want those two teams to

1781
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: be viola, let's do it final party. So you got

1782
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: the Lakers, Boston, Lakers, Boston party of Viola, party of

1783
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: we're winning, like I got the Clippers winning. But to me,

1784
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: whoever wins about is gonna win the final No disrespect

1785
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: to the rest of leage. That's just what it is.

1786
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Last question. People you could sit, smoke and just be

1787
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: creative as funk with in my life are alive? Who's

1788
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: at your table? Not kind of me and Jack give

1789
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: some other people space, all right, So I gotta have

1790
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: Bead there, just like to you know, for everything, you

1791
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: gotta explain that and see the whole thing, make sure

1792
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: it all makes sense. Uh. I want to smoke with Obama? Yeah? Um,

1793
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: I want to smoke with like legends, and I want

1794
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Bob there just to hit the herb with him. Young

1795
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Marley Damn. Who else would I want to smoke with? Um?

1796
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: You know I'm on some history ship, so like you know,

1797
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: just better learn and do like so Marcus Garvey, I

1798
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: got a smoke with him. So that's what we're waiting

1799
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: for you to go that type of ship. Um, and

1800
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: then I'll probably just have another like entertainer. Uh. Who

1801
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: would I want to smoke? I don't know, somebody like

1802
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Lenny Kravis, none other Cravits, Jimmy Hendricks. When you said

1803
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: somebody finding it was funny because the way he had

1804
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy is he had somebody had Obama two? It

1805
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: is too beat beat my Eddie Murphy perfect every man,

1806
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: that's a rap. All the Smoke, legendary episode. Man, I

1807
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 1: think this episode is gonna make a lot of headways,

1808
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: hope of us. You know, we got to bring people together. Um.

1809
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: Athletes need to be able to smoke. We need to

1810
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: love each other. We're gonna smoke anyway regardless. Uh Man,

1811
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: hell of the show. I thank you for having man.

1812
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me wipe. What's going on with Chad?

1813
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Let me sla him moist? Don't want to feel it.

1814
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: You don't want to feel it? Has not more with

1815
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: two of us. You play with you. I forgot to

1816
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: hold through and sweatshirt. You want it to be changed.

1817
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 1: Don't don't do me like that is not get petty.

1818
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: It is nice and wet bron I thought she was

1819
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: playing with yourself down there. That's crazy on on camera too.

1820
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: The biggest hayter Man, catch you Thursday. All the smoke,

1821
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: the biggest what I got, Al Harrington, I'm too fresh

1822
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: to be still that's the rat man. All the smoke.

1823
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: Great episode with my brother Al. Uh. Check this out

1824
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: on Showtime Basketball YouTube are all platforms, streaming podcast. Everything

1825
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: she does is because she never loses sight of what's important.

1826
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Putting on a military transport tonight. Hell yes, No one's

1827
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: backing down on either side. We have a bona fide crisis.

1828
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: We'll follow it up together, get to the truth. I

1829
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: did what had to be done.