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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. M H.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke live on set. Jack, what's

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Speaker 1: good back in l A doing it our way? Trying

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Speaker 1: to man, Man, we gotta I say special a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I really feel like this dude right here is

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest. Uh. It's just an

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Speaker 1: honor all the way from Pensacola, Florida. Man. Welcome Roy Jones,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate, thank you, thank you. Got you got

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Speaker 1: some gifts. Yeah, I got some talk to us about

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Speaker 1: what's in these bags. You see the roots switch me

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Speaker 1: up to hook y'all, little too too. You want me

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Speaker 1: to make shine mean, so come and knock. Get y'all

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Speaker 1: doing that. It's all say, it's all the same boat back.

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Speaker 1: We're not. Just know, I just need to like we

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, and we appreciate that we're familiar with them.

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Speaker 1: Um all they do a lot of stuff with legends

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Speaker 1: and another legend that we've found with a class to

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Speaker 1: so appreciate you. Brother. We also got a gift for you.

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Speaker 1: You we can't take a gift for that. Give a

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Speaker 1: game than you my brother, all the smoke dots story,

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Speaker 1: all our new gears, you know what I'm saying, new

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Speaker 1: sweat suits, We got all kinds of stuff. Man, make

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Speaker 1: sure you'll pull up bombs. Yeah sir, Well let's look, man,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. Pencacol Florida. Um, tell us about

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Speaker 1: your bringing, man, It was, it was, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a pretty different type of on upbringing. You know.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on the farm, so I had the animals,

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Speaker 1: you know, game cocks. You know. I was just one

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Speaker 1: of those little kids that God kind of blessed dirt.

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Speaker 1: You know. People always tell you that God prepares you

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Speaker 1: for what, for what already got ahead, you know. And

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Speaker 1: for me going up, watching the animals have taught me

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Speaker 1: a lout of a box in my fighting, so I

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Speaker 1: would always take in everything because my thing. Man, I

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Speaker 1: ain't get nothing. Nobody really do, really do, but able

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Speaker 1: to have their own way of how they find their

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Speaker 1: way through life. One of my ways through nature. You know.

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Speaker 1: I had a I had a dope. My pension once

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Speaker 1: basically saved my life. You know, some wild was about

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Speaker 1: to follow me, and people don't believe the story. But

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Speaker 1: the world I was small shouldn't been messed with the

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Speaker 1: woodn't way about to fall back home. Man, the dog

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Speaker 1: the wood. Help get the word back from following me

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Speaker 1: more loyal. If it would have felt on me I've

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Speaker 1: like five o'clock in the afternoon, so nobody would have

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Speaker 1: found me. But anyway, you know, I always been loyal

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Speaker 1: to the animals because of what they do for me.

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Speaker 1: So people always like how you just no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: it's not about that's about caring for things. And where

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Speaker 1: you learn it from. God was teaching me from my

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Speaker 1: observation what those animals were doing. So that's how I

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Speaker 1: And so when you start taking what God teaches you

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Speaker 1: to my my upbringing. With that first, then when I

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Speaker 1: got my teens, I kind of got to well. I

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Speaker 1: on the seven. When you're on a kid seven, A

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Speaker 1: lot of fathers don't realize that you can't still on

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Speaker 1: up with a lion mentality. A lion of mentality is

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Speaker 1: once you leave in this, you don't go back the line,

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Speaker 1: on that and say that's how I was raised up.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate him for teaching me it that way.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think we had to be quite

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Speaker 1: you know how deeply rooted understand Yeah, you understand it,

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Speaker 1: So you can't really fault nobody for what they did.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really appreciative for what I was talking the

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Speaker 1: I was of my My father was my first hero,

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Speaker 1: but he not. My father played basketball, and my father

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Speaker 1: me that once I see I taught y'all all, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know what you did right back? But you played

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Speaker 1: you played it back then. It was the D League. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I played against him. I was North Carolina. What you

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Speaker 1: play for? I played for ah, the Bratonton Ducks there

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Speaker 1: so the two thousand two Ye yeah, I played the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was right before I gut went

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Speaker 1: up to the Clippers. But yeah, yeah, yeah, but an't

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Speaker 1: better play, mother fucking Roy Jones. I enjoyed basketball first

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Speaker 1: because that's what my father was playing. And my father

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Speaker 1: of course, but he was damn the averaging four without

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Speaker 1: three point line. You know, that's just how good shot

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Speaker 1: there watching the fight, and I realized what it was.

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Speaker 1: It was Audie and Joe Fraser. I think in nineteen

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Speaker 1: and I'm seeing Mohammed he beat you with his mind.

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Speaker 1: And at that age, already at five, I was a

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Speaker 1: hell of agitated. I can get on anybody nerves. You

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Speaker 1: never gonna get mad enough to you. I don't think

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Speaker 1: me because I'm I don't get mad. I just it's

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Speaker 1: it was the truth. If you hit me one time,

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Speaker 1: I would you six pack? Yeah. They that that's not

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Speaker 1: getting even, that's getting a hit. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: score boy, Yeah, that's where I came from. You were

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Speaker 1: inducted or vote excuse me, in the International Boxing Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame after you know one of the greatest careers ever.

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Speaker 1: What was that moment like to you? It was very different, man.

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Speaker 1: It was like something we all look forward to, both

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Speaker 1: that's kind of icing on the cake. Um, But if

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Speaker 1: been upset about it. Just it's just it's like I said,

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Speaker 1: cake is already there. Understand me, career you feel, so

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah we are. Judges are still up somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Who did you autolize besides your father growing up? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna sound kind of funny. My first idel was Tarzan,

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Speaker 1: King of the Jungle. Yeah, you got a white duty

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Speaker 1: you know, your white guy. He in Africa, he only

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Speaker 1: something like what he is. He had charged every damn thing.

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Speaker 1: That's what he was. He was speaking two languages for everybody.

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Speaker 1: You energy career one one and thirteen? What was the grind?

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Speaker 1: from your point of view, what do you feel like? Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what really happened. I know that they

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Speaker 1: So because of that, they decided they take it back

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Speaker 1: But the good thing about this is, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I had been well versed in how to react to it,

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Speaker 1: because what people didn't understand was my shirt didn't say Jones.

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Speaker 1: My shirts said U s A. I remempresent royal Jones

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Speaker 1: remempers us of the country. So if I asked the food,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna have been on us as a country. So

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Speaker 1: God put on the person who would have handled it

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that them teeing to that thirteen was

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Speaker 1: ready for. So when I got to that, I would like,

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Speaker 1: hang't it man? So what idea was after the decision,

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Speaker 1: when I went to the back, I had to interpret that.

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Speaker 1: I say, asked me if you think he won't, because

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Speaker 1: now I gotta get again, he said, no, I know

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Speaker 1: I didn't win, but it wasn't me with the church

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Speaker 1: wouldn't worry. I just didn't like the fact I don't

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Speaker 1: like to see. I don't like to see nobody get

426
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Speaker 1: beat up on your feeling like I don't. I don't

427
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 1: like I like box somebody don't like bottoms like with me,

428
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 1: Like I love the UFC, but when the guy get

429
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Speaker 1: knocked out and then get down and hit him while

430
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 1: y'all still that kind of bother. Yeah that last one. Yeah,

431
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 1: that's the only thing. I love it. But that's that's

432
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Speaker 1: on that bottom me. Why I don't hit the unconscious

433
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: personal conscious, you don't get you get me to me

434
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 1: that that's kinda So it's like I'm not that dude man,

435
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: and like people don't understand. But it's a lot of

436
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: things I don't stomach with. You fear me. So I'm

437
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: not the guy that can go out and just do

438
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: stupid stuff. But at the same time, I'm gonna get

439
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: you out. So when you can't have to fight him.

440
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: I knew that we might. I might have to to find

441
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: him before the fight. I might to find him doing

442
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: the fight. I might to find him after the fight.

443
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: But I'm ready to fight one that because I need

444
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: to be the boss, and he was the man. To

445
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: be the man, you gotta beat the men, and that's

446
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: where I came from. So when I got rid of

447
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: that's really part of why I mean and my father

448
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: fell out because I found out that they offered me

449
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 1: a fight with James Hunter before and my father said no, no,

450
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: I got to beat him, not you. You came telling

451
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: him no, you can make him scare him, and you're

452
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: gonna say no to you in it. Well, like I always,

453
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm keep going back to the point. I'm sorry y'all,

454
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: but God, I always prepare you for what he got

455
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: coming coming in the future. For you understand me. I

456
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: watched Howard David Jr. Senior. I mean, I watched Howard

457
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: David Senior whole Howard Davis Jr. A little too long

458
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: before we let him for for a time, Howard David Junior.

459
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: I think wont the Veil Blocker Cup, which is the

460
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: most standing boxing at the Olympics in seventy six. It

461
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: was seventy six, so I wanted Samething eighty eight, but

462
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: he wanted seven six, and he was the best boxing

463
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: at the Olympics in seventy six. Sugar let him want

464
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: to become CHAMPI Lee or Randolph's springing brothers. Everybody became

465
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: Champ except Howard. Why because his father was in control

466
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: of his career. Because father want to go to heat field.

467
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Speaker 1: Read where you can't let him fight when you read

468
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: it because you ain't fighting. He So I observed that,

469
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 1: and God was teaching me that. I didn't know it,

470
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: but God was showing me there from this. I didn't

471
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Speaker 1: meet a a day to time I got twenty seven

472
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: years old, but I understood his life told because God

473
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: was shortly to me and playing, if you, if you

474
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: go down that road, this what's gonna happen to you.

475
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: So when it came town once I realized my dadd

476
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: had tried to fight down one time. You can't be

477
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: speaking for me because I know in my mind I'm

478
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: a better fighting this dude. I need to beat this dude.

479
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: Why I know I'm a better fighting him. I don't

480
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: wait either way to you think I'm a better fighting him.

481
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: I know now, So the second time they asked me, yes,

482
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: you're fighting he the best. I want to be the best,

483
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: but you're middleweight. Don't pay that enough to new attention.

484
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I ain't on middleweight, I'm pound pound. Yes, I fighting,

485
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: And that's how that happened. James m was animal, still

486
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: is animal. He was how much heavier was he than you? Well,

487
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: one week a spot he was at sixty eight and

488
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: I was at sixty year But now, but what else?

489
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: People don't realize the politics of the game. He was

490
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: with top rank right, So when I beat Hopkins Um,

491
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: James torn had went up to one eight and beat

492
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: Iran Brock. I think for the title they gave. They

493
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: gave James Tony in days to decide whether you wanted

494
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: to keep the super Midway title or the Middleway title. Right,

495
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: he said, I keep super Midway types for me and

496
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: but no for the Middleway typle right. When I signed

497
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: to fight him for the Supermderways, just like he did

498
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: when he went with a fat box, I signed to

499
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: fight him for the Superway title. They stripped me at

500
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: the Middleway title. Once again, when you're on your own,

501
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: feel that's how they do you. So now all the

502
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: deals making worse for him because if I lose now,

503
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: I ain't got no Bill he lost the bark. He

504
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: still at the middleway. Bill, I lose, ain't got nothing nothing.

505
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm rock bottom, but I can't go rock bottom, so

506
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: I can't lose that. So it just they just made

507
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: it better for me. Nine nine, you became the undisputed

508
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: light heavyweight champion. You want to find a w B,

509
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: a w BC and ib F. What was that feeling like?

510
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: That was something I always wanted to do, but I

511
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: didn't think I'd ever get the opportunity to do it

512
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: because of the promotional situation. If you wouldn't with this promoter,

513
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: or you wouldn't did a depth promoter, you wouldn't get

514
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: the fight. Represented yourself, not a path sometime. But you

515
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: have talked about enough though, because that's that's that's serious.

516
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean back then they're doing it now. Back then, yeah,

517
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: back then they weren't doing it, and even now they

518
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: don't do it that much because the fact of the

519
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: matter is if they represented themselves now we get the fights.

520
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: We want to see a box but they don't do that.

521
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: Then if y'all remember, and y'all know because y'all was doing,

522
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 1: y'all thinking my time, so at the same time I

523
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: would so it was so bad with me that I

524
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: would get on TV after the fight and give you

525
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: my phone up if you want to fight, that's that's

526
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: how bad I wanted to wat you best. That's pre promotional.

527
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to prove out the busins. Ain't even

528
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: to kill them. I just want to get the best.

529
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: So if you thought you could so. It was a

530
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: guy in Germany, Darius Miklechki. The w BO was new,

531
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: he had BO built. If you're offered him, I mean

532
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: to come to you, not sit to fight me. He said, No,

533
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: I got someven dolts that want me to take myseven

534
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: dolts and go to Germany to fighting for his one

535
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: in his in general, he lived. You think what happened

536
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: to me? I just went to different and got robbed.

537
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna do that again? No, So if

538
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: you really want to smoke, come get it right here.

539
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: I got seven of them, I got the bills. Yeah,

540
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: what I'm coming to you from. So people always talk

541
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: about but they don't they don't tell the truth. I

542
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: ain't definitely done nothing. You know, even I find I

543
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: shouldn't have fault. I fought just once. I once I

544
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: put my name on there, you fight. Take us into

545
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: the walls with Antonio talking, well, the first one is like,

546
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: what happened? Was I beat when he was an ambsious

547
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: He went off on we never let that go? He

548
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: know that goes? Yeah, I know, honestly, I watched the

549
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: whole he went on around page. He got his life

550
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: back together because of me. He got a life back

551
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: together though, because he realized the dang I was saying him.

552
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: We used to have a good competition, and look what

553
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: he did, so I can make some of myself. So

554
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: I really was his hero for the longest time. So

555
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: because he atalized me, I just became his his own

556
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: is real talking, you fear me. And so the first

557
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: fight was tough because off I'd lose twenty five pounds

558
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: of muscle, but I still managed to beat it because

559
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: I had to do what I thought Bob it Simmons

560
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: had did, which was when the heavyweight title didn't go

561
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: back after that and recapture light every time. But I

562
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: think Bob Bob Simmon didn't win the light heay with

563
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: titles after he wanted Heayway title. He hadn't one livery

564
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: great title before he won the Heavway title. Then he

565
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: lost that, then he went down back and won the

566
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: light hea with title. He didn't win it, go and

567
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: win every time and go back and regain, so I

568
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: thought that was he did. So I wanted when the

569
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: light here with title, when don't here with title, didn't

570
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: recapture light every time, So that's why I had to

571
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: fight in the first time. The second time. I know

572
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: my body wouldn't real it back together, but like I said,

573
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: my my main flowers, I don't duck mat. So somebody said,

574
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: he give your hard time. What you want to see

575
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: what you mean when you say your body went back together.

576
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: My body lost twenty five pounds of muscle. That takes

577
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: a lot of He found out when he did the

578
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: creed moving and then he went to Fall for North

579
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: he had on and just beat the viper or because

580
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: he had lost the muscle day game making that creep

581
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: move don't move whatever before I think it was he

582
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: did rock at six something. Anyway, he found the hardway

583
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: that when you lose that weight, it takes a toy

584
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: feel so second one he won third one. It's cool.

585
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: I try to bring my father back to hopefully that

586
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: would have mended the relationship, but it didn't. So that

587
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: didn't work out either. But he's not a bad fighter.

588
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: Don't get it wrong. I don't take that from nobody.

589
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: But what y'all have to understand. What people to fail

590
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: to realize that that it's not about a team that

591
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: can beat you. Anybody like like a team that you'll

592
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: on championship teams. A team might beat you on any

593
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: given night, but who the champ of this deceason? Right?

594
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: So for me, anybody might beat a given night, but

595
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: who donated that? The ain't Twitter years conforts It's not

596
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: about that one given night. Who can If you did

597
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: to beat me then when it dominated for twelve years, Okay,

598
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: I gotta take my hat off. You might be better

599
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: with me. But if you can't go beat me and

600
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: go down there Twitter years like I did, keep the

601
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: people entertained and want to watch you fight like I did,

602
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: you understand then you ain't doing what I did. So

603
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: every championship team, I mean Tampa, they want the Super

604
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Bowl as they had losses in the team, the Lakers,

605
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: everybody when y'all win your Santorini wherever you was, when

606
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: you'll win the championship. You have a few games loss,

607
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: they can beat trying to given night, Yeah, but they're

608
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna beat in the seven game series because you're the

609
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: better team. You understand me, And that's what's gonna stand

610
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: up when you get to the end, the better team.

611
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna win that seven game series with that mentality,

612
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: and it kind of makes you easier to put that

613
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: behind you and go on to the next fight, like

614
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: with of course, yeah, of course, because I understand and

615
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: I know that the sacrifice I've made, I may have

616
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: had to take a hit full of because that was

617
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: a big sacrifice. Nobody had went from middleweight to have

618
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: weight in a hundred and six years, you understand. I

619
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: mean people say, oh, that's good, but sugar rops some

620
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: better robins. Some collapse trying to win the head Light

621
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Heavway title. He was a fourth seven pounder, but it

622
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: collapse trying to win the Light Heavway title. So old,

623
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, really, it's hard to find a person that

624
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: was able to dominate from as far as id I

625
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: went from one fifty four to heavy weight. Nobody ever

626
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: did that before. So I will tell you, Oh, there's

627
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: some pound pod pound, poud no, how many I'm covered

628
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: as much weight pound for pound as Roaldy, none of them.

629
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: Nobody never covered that much weight. So I won't say

630
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: the arguer for myself. But it's like, if the proof

631
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: is in the world, fact don't like and nobody covered

632
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: that much weight? What did you do to Felix to retire? Well,

633
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: fittish was He's a good dude. He's still a good friend.

634
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it real. You brought me, I don't

635
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: dislike nobody know what I mean. And I just knew

636
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: that he was too small for me. You know. It's

637
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: like you gotta you get a six or six forgot

638
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: in the post, and yeah, and that's what that was.

639
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: He's just a little smaller. He too small for me.

640
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: You come to one sevening, but you till you still

641
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: too small for me, so you know, And I kind

642
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: of knew that, and I just after that fact, I

643
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: tore it myself and this um a week in the

644
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: hand before the fight. But I still know here too

645
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: small for me. So I still if I can't beat

646
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: on one hand, something wrong with me because he's too

647
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: small for me. For the seven nock guys, which one

648
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: was your favorite? Um, it's a lot of knockouts. Well,

649
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: I hate this coup to dude get mad at me

650
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: every time I see it, But I have to say

651
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: it just with the truth. If he getting mad every time, man,

652
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: and I don't mean nothing, it's true, but not against it.

653
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: But he getting mad at me every time. But my

654
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: favorite knockout was the one against my tear Griffin. Yeah,

655
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: the second right, because because of a high all came together.

656
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a crazy situation. And to come

657
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: back and redeement in one round like that was pretty

658
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: spectacular and was different because I told him night before

659
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen next day? Yeah, I thought the

660
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: only thing what happened if to go reef around that.

661
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: They just qualified me around nine last time, as I'm

662
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: just gonna refight around now. Ain't gonna take y'all through

663
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: where I want through eight? This time? We're gonna straight

664
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: back around now. And that's really well. I mean, if

665
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: man take you that the day before to fight with

666
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: the take, you know, the pressures of chasing, not necessarily chasing,

667
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: but just having an undefeated record, you know, Floyd was

668
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: able to deal with what was You were there at

669
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: one point? Did you? You always obviously just looked at fighting,

670
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: but was there to keep the streak alive. Obviously was

671
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: important to you as well. Let me tell you different

672
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: about it that Florida did a great thing because Florida's

673
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: a marketing genius. He was that old to the max,

674
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: and he did better than anybody you ever gonna see

675
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: do as far as marketing himself, because he took a

676
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: different approach than I took. But everybody's in time to

677
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: take their on the probect And don't get y'all get

678
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: a Twitter Florida bead dude, fight it behind or not.

679
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: People don't. People don't understand. I ain't gonna say he's

680
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: the best ever, but he up there. Do you know

681
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: people understand? People don't understand that. They said with pack

682
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: almost yeah, but Peck, I felt them bees, Pack, I

683
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: ain't running on the bees, you know what I mean.

684
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm standing his almost hurt, but it ain't.

685
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: It ain't the same you got outside looking at as

686
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: his inside feel me. So I thought you should have

687
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: fought them earlier, Yes, because I thought pack hours that

688
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: are hot and I thought would have been a better fight.

689
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: Had to found the three years earlier because Peck was

690
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: on top of his game. But still when he fought him,

691
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: he still made Peck like you made Cannello do. Connello

692
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: felt that things kind of stayed onf for him for

693
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: a while, you feel me. So it's like you can't

694
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: take away from his boxing skills just because he don't

695
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: do it the way you think you're doing. The boy

696
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: can fight in the neck and fight, you know what

697
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm say, man so, but you don't get fifty and

698
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: know without knowing how to exactly exactly. But so for me,

699
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: what really pissed me off at that Monteil Griffin loss.

700
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: You just seen him robbed me and the Olympics, and

701
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna take my own on thiss qualification. Wait a minute, now,

702
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: I just seen been a passants a hit Danna Rose

703
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: in black and the referee after y'all stopped in the

704
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: same day, y'all just qualify him. Then I see just

705
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: a Ferguson hit. I mean not reading. He test Ferguson

706
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: twice while he was on his knee in the State

707
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: of Washington in d C. And you was over that

708
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: y'all didn't just qualify him, but he's gonna do that.

709
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Just got robbed up a gold medal. The Olympics qualify

710
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: him when the referee a referee to say stopped was

711
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: a bad back, the man nable five seven, the man

712
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: on the ground, I don't know what the man squid down?

713
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: What the man doing? I told my coat was left round,

714
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know what you mean to do one.

715
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: So I tapped them things gonna say stop. Refree said, okay,

716
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: I guess you must not be considering him down. So

717
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: and I still didn't him hard as I could. I

718
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: hit him again. So he went down, and they just qualified.

719
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: So that old man a lot to me because he

720
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: did not just qualified. My problem never would have lost.

721
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: He sold it though I'm putting in my mind. Of course,

722
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: of course they're not hit him, said the sacrifice, but

723
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: he did said and that was a hell of a

724
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: way to take away from a guy who represented this

725
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: country and got robbed one time. You feel it, really,

726
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna do to me. I just went

727
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: outn't represent our country. You saw robbing me over that,

728
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: and now you're gonna take my away from other pro

729
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: that's a hurt for fitting, bro, But that going to

730
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: show you that you gotta watching. You think they called

731
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: it only to kill all the team, so you know,

732
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: so it made me tighten up the second fight. What's

733
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: your mental approach? Obviously that was a different situation. But

734
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: after a loss, I mean, like, we could take losses

735
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: in our sport and still be okay because we played.

736
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: But a loss in your sport is a is a

737
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: much different how do you rebound for those? Mentally it's

738
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: really hard to rebound from our loss, and our sport

739
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: is very detrimental. That's why I tell people all the

740
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: time you find the undefeated fighter, you gotta first teaching

741
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: how to lose, because mentally he don't know how to loose.

742
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: Mentally heard of it broke as hard to break a

743
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: person ain't never been broke. Now once he gets paid

744
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the loss for me. EA's like ride a motorcycle. You

745
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: have a motorcycle, Rick, If you're gonna ride a motorcycle again,

746
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: as quick as you get able, people to get your

747
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: behind and get back on another because you'll get afraid

748
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: to wrap one. If you sit back and think about

749
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I hurt you and how bad it did you when

750
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: you're head. Now you're gonna be be skinny on it again.

751
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Now you may not never ride another back again. For me,

752
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: when when it happened to me, I was like, Okay,

753
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: that's cool. I gotta go again. Then they have him again. Okay,

754
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: well I still gotta go again. You understand me. So

755
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm the type of person. I feel like

756
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: I was supposed to fight to the end. So I'd

757
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: rather be knocked out than to lose a decision. Because

758
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I lost to hit the man, I still couldn't get more.

759
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: So not me cold. I know I shouldn't want and

760
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: that's how I want to go out. Yeah, I wish

761
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: moboxers had the attitude. You know, you see a lot

762
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: of fighters these days. Man, we didn't watch fight. They're

763
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: looking at the corner like I know you see this.

764
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: I know you've seen again with where the toil is.

765
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't want towel memorable ring walks. She once appeared

766
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: in the act the Radio City Auditorium and the text

767
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: drawn by Red meth Man, let me explain something to you,

768
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: HBO who also made me, helped make me help the

769
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: world get to know where John Drene was. But they

770
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: really messed me up. That particularly like because they showed

771
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: movies with Kerson and all kinds of stuff after Now

772
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: at the seven o'clock at night, this boxing. This is

773
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: the first time ever, not mard you this now, first

774
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: time ever that rap music was in the radio. See

775
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: the music hall, the first time ever. You see the

776
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: music hall. I've never had rapping it before. That was

777
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the first time ever. Also had Win in Houston, a

778
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: singing gobless America. So you got such a big night

779
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: and you're gonna mute the audio because of lyrical contact

780
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 1: of rap music, but all the who is you played

781
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: with all the bad rical continent once again, I'm gonna

782
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: get the short and the stick. And that was the

783
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: best ring interest that I have seen to this day.

784
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: Me met and red all dance and come over. You

785
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: don't get better the audio because y'all were about the

786
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: lyrical content. What more can they say that that the

787
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: movies y'all paying out from something, ain'tthing saying it's worse

788
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: on the movie you feeling. So they co complete there.

789
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: They completely wiped out the best ring interests of all times.

790
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: That if it would have been, if you could have

791
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: heard the lyrical Now people still loved them wrong, But

792
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you could have heard it and really felt what we

793
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: felt energy. You would have felt the whole energy of it.

794
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: You missed the energy because they wouldn't play the lyrics

795
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: the lyrical content over the TV screen. But and the

796
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: second my second favorite win though, was I didn't want

797
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: to put on the organ I think brand Jordan's and

798
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Nike head sponsored the fight for me important that I

799
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: came about the flow and I had the girls dancing.

800
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: I did one of my own on songs. That was

801
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: my second paper. You were a team Jordan, right, Yes,

802
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: what was that experience like being able to cross from

803
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: be recognized for your greatness and be a part of

804
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: that brand Jack's part of that brand? Yeah, I know,

805
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: I was great. It was great. Great job. Wait where

806
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: y'all made him tell you something? Both of y'all to understand.

807
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: I wiped both of y'all for a long time too.

808
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: That's that man. I enjoyed love both of y'all. Y'all

809
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: got to know that man up most respectful both of you. So,

810
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was for me. It was good because

811
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: for me, Mike was one of the better basketball, better

812
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: athletes visity over the live and for him to come

813
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: and represent and understand that I represented that to him

814
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: as a boxer, but it was a big thing, you

815
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: feel a minute. So that was really huge and I

816
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: really respected him for that because at that time, boxes

817
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: really weren't getting no deals. You couldn't get Nobody wanted

818
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: to deal with Boxes because of the promoters or because

819
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: of the bad name most of them have, and you

820
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: know it was it was different. So for them to

821
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: come get me and give me the opportunity was a

822
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. For just you were called the best crowd

823
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: you ever fought in front of and just a two

824
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: part question. Obviously you're so locked in. Do you play

825
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: off the energy of the crowd? Are you in your

826
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: own little zone? This crowd is probably I was gonna

827
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: be my hometown crowd because every single person is invested

828
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I win. We all in other crowds, you know some

829
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: place I had eight or some places now, but I

830
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: was a few that want the other guy to win

831
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: at home is natified. See IA say that hate thing

832
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: on tap so and it meant a lot to me

833
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: because I know what it means to those who want

834
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: me to wine. That's the big though. Are the ones

835
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: I fight for? Uh? The most. Most people be really

836
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: locked in. But when I found in Mississippi, I called

837
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Jeff Lacey in Mississippi and I was fighting. I was

838
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: living old. I think it was about forty. Yeah, but

839
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: you can't tell them and see levet hood caause I

840
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: got this levet hooking the game. I'm the best hooker

841
00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: I ever touched the game. Can't come to think that

842
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: that's what they So you can't tell you can't come

843
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: to me with that nick because I think I got

844
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: the best. So it made me really tune in on it,

845
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: you feel. Use. I was kind of tune in that night,

846
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: and I never forget I was fighting him and I

847
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: dude said something to him. I think I did something

848
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: to him and doing no wrong, don't don't trap him

849
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: in that corner, and he begged off. I said, you

850
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: told him right. So I was so into the crowd

851
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: that night. There honestly everything going on in the ring.

852
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: But I also can hear people outside. You did what

853
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: I would do was or placed a couple of my

854
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: guys coach to the ring. The guys I knew, they

855
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: knew what my playing was and we all I would

856
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: listen to them talk because if I ever got to

857
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: a situation where I need anything, They knew what to say.

858
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: They also kept me up in tune what the time was.

859
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: So if I had my two guys, three guys, and

860
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what was going on, that's all I

861
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: would really hear. But Lasy fight because everyone was a

862
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: little smaller, I kind of can't hear everybody. That's crazy.

863
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: I remember when you called Calza give me the breaks off.

864
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: It was I had no idea that if I was

865
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna be that bad dog. I can't did because Calzack

866
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: is not a power puncher. He's a volume puncher. And

867
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: time you go try to go out a guy as

868
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: a volume punch with power, you're gonna get beat because

869
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: he gonna that long. That's just what he was. Yeah,

870
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: and Jeff was at his height at at that time.

871
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 1: But that one power shopping the left hook a gonna

872
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: be enough and you ain't gonna hard to hit him

873
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: with it. You know the art of trash talking. All

874
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: the trash talk I learned from hummad Ali. But the

875
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: all the trash talking is like, you gotta know what

876
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: you're doing, whore, you're doing what you're doing with it?

877
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: Because I only gotta beat one time trash talking, and

878
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you who beat me trash talking. He

879
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: didn't beat me trash talking. But to me, the all

880
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: the trash talking, everything that takes place before the five happens.

881
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: So when I see you, if I know we're gonna fight,

882
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start missing on you, understand me from a traytop.

883
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: Start that right then. If I'm gonna start playing a

884
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: game with you, gonna start that right then. So when

885
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: I fought Joyese, he came to the press conference just

886
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: like a Pimp'll canna be a little bit y'all, like

887
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: he got me. Because I wouldn't prepare for that. I said, okay, okay,

888
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: how much he is? He was six pounds. Yeah, So

889
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: he he got in with that. But the next day

890
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: I prayed to get back at it. And next day

891
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: his coach came on the scale, came on the on

892
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: the podium what the skill was, and got right in

893
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: my coach face talking stuff. You know, he was spending

894
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: his face too. And my coach is a retired, uh

895
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: notary guy, coach Alter Merson. You're not gonna get in

896
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: his face and say nothing. So soon starting to get

897
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: in his face all the stage on the goals to

898
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: the hospital. He goes, hey, I needed something to turn

899
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: the thing back around. Yes, yeah, I snuck off the stage,

900
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: went around back, went back to what John rees was

901
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: because everybody was nervously But I went into a panic

902
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: because of the fight. I say, don't you worry about nothing,

903
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: and nobody gonna touch you because you're blown to me tomorrow.

904
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: But I had to get him back and he had

905
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: got me the press cover with the little pimp, so

906
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: I had to go see that tune to put me

907
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: back in charge again. So I was. But most people

908
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: I beat him talking to us, M Yeah, you can't

909
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: teach that. You gotta have that. Yeah, A lot of

910
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: people ain't that confident to talk ship. You know what

911
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You gotta be willing to back it up.

912
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: Preparation gets you confident to be able to talk, be prepared,

913
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: and you were to back it up. You know, I

914
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: can't back it up now. I already want to hear it.

915
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: When did you decide to get into music? Man A

916
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: big way? Back in the early nineties, I had a

917
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: group called pg Ready PGS. I love music so much

918
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: and music was so inspirational because for me I used

919
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: to go even after training. Sometimes I would go in

920
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: my room and turn my music on and work on

921
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: what I learned and training that particular days. So I

922
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: was able to put the two together in a sense

923
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: what it made sense for me because I love music

924
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: with boxing. This rhythm to me. But also when you

925
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: think about it, Mommed Ali said the bar high because

926
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: he talked, he rapped. He just didn't do it the

927
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: music that was afloat like butterflies. Think I could beat

928
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: there to come with muhaddie. He did the rapping, he

929
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: didn't added music too. So if you're gonna take what

930
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: he took, what he did and raise it more, then

931
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: you gotta do more. So take that rapping here doing

932
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: and put music behind, go all the way with That's

933
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: what I did. Remember, So men you did Suf made

934
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: millionail shout out the rung, but you were trashed on

935
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: that said, y'all go look it up. I think there

936
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: was an old five or old four around that time.

937
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: I was with the pacers around that time. Y'all must

938
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: have forgot. How did that come together? Me and Hodge

939
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: rapper Hodge wrappers rapping from the jo. Pretty pretty good, dude,

940
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: one of the guys I think should have been much

941
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: more us forever up in the year. But he has

942
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: a man unlike any other that I've seen when it

943
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: comes to writing. So we kind of sat down, put

944
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: together some of my facts. I figured out how we're

945
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: gonna make it work, and the concept came they must

946
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: have forgot, you know. Like we sat down and he

947
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: would better at the writing part to me. So I

948
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: would write the facts and write things I want to say,

949
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: and he would put in the cell fores and kind

950
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: of got to get and rooted and man came out hot.

951
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: So the second time me and put it, we wouldn't

952
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: did the second one, but this one I don't want

953
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: to leave by by myself because I feel like you

954
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: almost forgot. It's a big statement, but you can't put

955
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: it a lot of times where people make their mistaken

956
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: music if they think about themselves and stead think about

957
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: the consumers. Right, So like my ya almost forgot the

958
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: first one. It was more about me, But now when

959
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: I redid it and it's more about you almost forgot.

960
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: Anybody sitting second one and can mean it. So me

961
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: and something Marvin Baglet on the second you're on the

962
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: second one. He got a nice verse two years he

963
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: can go, but also the second I want to make

964
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: it with because it's such a good it's such a

965
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: good statement. Y'all must have forgot. You don't get a phrase.

966
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: You don't get much better than that, because even y'all,

967
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: y'all go back to your high school and you'll almost

968
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: forgot what I'm saying. So we go there. You didn't

969
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: be a career you you almost forgot what I used

970
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I'm saying. So it's a

971
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: statement that's gonna live forever. And when you make songs

972
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: out of statements that are everlasting, those songs don't really die. Right.

973
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: We got we got a guy we just partnered with

974
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Forgotten Seasons n v A and that that can be

975
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: his Uh So yeah, that's good. Off on me, Bro.

976
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: Final fight was back home in teen and August, your

977
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: last fight. You finished six, six wins and nine losses.

978
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: At the end of that night. What was the feeling

979
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: like knowing that was your last fight? It was a bay.

980
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: It was a very bad feeling because I thought I

981
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: was gonna fight forever. I don't wear at that time.

982
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Uh for the eight I think, damn the man. So

983
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: it was a bad feeling up because I just felt like,

984
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: no for the seven, for the seven, I just don't

985
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: want to give it up. I want to give it up.

986
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: But I knew that for me, it seemed like if

987
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: I have stopped, I was just gonna go sit on

988
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: the couch and get fat. And that's what I did

989
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: want to do. So I continue to go. Give me

990
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: a reason getting shape, the reason to stay and shape

991
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: and take better care of myself. So you see so

992
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: many guys they stopped it, being like y'all themselves go,

993
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: ye know, man, it's bad because y'all didn't killed somebody

994
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: right now, because y'all still don't shape you fear me,

995
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: y'all don't let what God gave you just go to waste.

996
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: Y'all did take advantage of it. But so many people

997
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: I see slipped themselves go down here, And that's what

998
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: I also didn't want to do. So I knew that

999
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: if I want to get in shape, just go find

1000
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: somebody I gotta getting shaped in because I ain't gon'

1001
00:48:54,040 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: not so yeah, of course probably can't everything so so

1002
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: but anyway, that's that's what that's what it was. And

1003
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: to watch these guys do it nowadays, like it's getting

1004
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: better now, But for a while there that the skill

1005
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: levels going down, and I didn't see guys that really

1006
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: were having skilled to really entertain and show people what

1007
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: boxing me was about. So and really want nobody really

1008
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: fight nobody know. It's like, right now, we've got a

1009
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: lightweight division that's full of fighters, a lot of really

1010
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: good fighters, but you're looking at each other. No, you

1011
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like fans haven't really

1012
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: got to look at so you mean, well, let him

1013
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: see you beat somebody up. That's what I was doing.

1014
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: Commentate now, I love commentations. The difference between that and

1015
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: the ring. Commentating a little different because you don't have

1016
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: to really be in shape. Let your mind work and

1017
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: tell your body. You know in your mind and your

1018
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: body gotta work. Now you buy your magic and work

1019
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: your body, worry about nothing. So commentating I can tell

1020
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: you what he's doing and what somebody should be doing

1021
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: to him, but they're not doing fighting. I ain't gonna

1022
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: tell you what You're gonna show you what he's doing

1023
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: and show you what's what I should be doing. Too

1024
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: many do, so it's one thing to show us differently

1025
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: and talk about you enjoy a conversation. I love it

1026
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: because it gives me an opportunity to tell people about

1027
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: what I did from my from a final standpoint, not

1028
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: for somebody who never did it before, but telling you

1029
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: all of it. We talked about that before. It's the

1030
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: experience is the best teacher. If you don't if you're

1031
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: not been in there, you don't know what the real

1032
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: deal is because you've never been hit for you know

1033
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: what I'm Saying's like, like Mike said, a lot of

1034
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: people got a lot of game take your hit in

1035
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: the mount, remember, because they forgot that point in that book.

1036
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: The book intended about that point. The book can't tell

1037
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: you that I have to hit you in the mouth,

1038
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: then what you need to do. That book gonna tell

1039
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: you that you take that punch in the mouth for

1040
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: you to learn it. And that's what people miss. In commentary,

1041
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking when we found out we were gonna

1042
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: have you as a guest, I was thinking, obviously very

1043
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: skilled tactician, but also that the style you fought, if

1044
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: how well that would translate to social media these days?

1045
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: What is the power of social media and what kind

1046
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: of You're already a monster, but could you imagine what

1047
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: he was doing. It was on social media. It would

1048
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: be insane knockouts, everything going viral. Nobody never seen people

1049
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: do the things. That's what I want your hand, how

1050
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: you beat? I mean, it was just what you did

1051
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: at the TAVA. He's gonna try to do it. They

1052
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: can't do it, better to me to knock them down

1053
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: Tony to. Yeah. So it's like people don't understand. And

1054
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: like I tell people this one. You know, one of

1055
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: my favorite point guards is Chris Paul. And reason I

1056
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: like Chris Paul because you see these guys do all

1057
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: this and one stuff on the court against these guys

1058
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: don't play basketball. You see Chris Paul do enter team

1059
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: get the best of the best. You fear me shout out.

1060
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: He's doing things that people get the best playing right now.

1061
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: He doing it bringing out in game cap in the payoffs.

1062
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: He don't kill so your family. So for a person

1063
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: to be that entertaining at that time, you don't do that. Then,

1064
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: like you see guys do stuff in the gym, but

1065
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do that in a real fight. They're

1066
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: afraid to try. This dude doing these things and gags

1067
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: and playoff games, you feel DA's what means something. If

1068
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: you can't do it, then then already killed you can

1069
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: do it because you can't do it when it counts

1070
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: to make these people be that whoa, they already killed you.

1071
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 1: This dude do it in the game. He's just playing

1072
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: what he do it in the game. And that means

1073
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: something me because for me, my goal was when I

1074
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: watched my Allie and Sugary Leonard. These guys entertained you.

1075
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: Whether with the foot speed or the hand speed or

1076
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: even the head movement, they entertained you. So I can't

1077
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: be an entertainer and take you further than they took you.

1078
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: Then why my boxing. I don't want to just be

1079
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: another boxer. I want to be a guy that they said,

1080
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: or we're fighting, everybody put everything that we gotta go

1081
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: see what fighting. Don't know what world might do tonight.

1082
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: That's how I was feeling. That's which is what I'm

1083
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: trying to tell you that those other guys they can't

1084
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: do that. They make it look and bet me one night,

1085
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: but they can't hold that crowd like I can't. I

1086
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: get it. They cried and care who I was fighting.

1087
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: They come to see because they know we're gonna do

1088
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: something that we're not gonna forgive. Right, We're gonna give

1089
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: us a moment somewhere. We're gonna be right. We know

1090
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna give us something that's just who who straight

1091
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: uh November, you step back in the ring, Luke bench

1092
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: and something. Nobody felt like it was his two uncles

1093
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: fight at the barbecue. But to me, it was seeming

1094
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: like my two favorite boxes in the world are about

1095
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: to fight. Like I'm excited about the idea, but I'm

1096
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: just like, I don't want to see these motherucker's hurt

1097
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: each other. Man. So thoughts on how that all came

1098
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: about and what made you get back in the ring

1099
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: before you start. Oh, let me just just let me

1100
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: say this. I was worried I will too. He was

1101
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna say, Hey, we was gonna say, dude, O, hell

1102
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: uh whip pounds here to me? Really hear it to

1103
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: that to me? But he twenty pounds here to me,

1104
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: he ain't screwed on type. You know what he might

1105
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: come here and do. Then they say, Yo, that's smoking weed.

1106
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: Before you come out there, Love, you don't know what

1107
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: you're about to do. You understand you're on the web.

1108
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: May happened. So when I heard about it, I said, listen, listen,

1109
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: y'all can't be out there trying to kill each other.

1110
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: What else do you know? That's all you know? What

1111
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: else do you know? If he tried to hit you

1112
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be trying to keep that's all he knows.

1113
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: So first time he'd been a chest, I feel like

1114
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I want to keep us. If if I had to go,

1115
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: like mom, you sud I should have did I did?

1116
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I ain't think he pushed that this Still you stole

1117
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: it down a nob bro, I ain't stole down the link.

1118
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: Then I get in front of him and I see

1119
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: him doing or to hear that I thought I thought

1120
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: he stepped all over in a minute before he still

1121
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: a fast, still slipping all my stuff, and I'm right

1122
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: now because I gotta be right just in case he

1123
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: gets wrong and we're gonna get wrong. Still fans all

1124
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: the way, man's here, any point that here? Then I

1125
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: think I hit the left hook or something. We got

1126
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: close and he took a glove en list up my face,

1127
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: I said, there is some of the I see you, Mike,

1128
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: I see still got game. I'm good, And is he

1129
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna do to get night. Ain't doing the more cause

1130
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: they get they're gonna get bad. You know what I'm saying,

1131
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: called this dude, this dude, he first of all, he's

1132
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: still too strong, he still got all his old tricks,

1133
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: and he much harder to hit. And now you ever

1134
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: thought he would have been what I mean, that's what

1135
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: was surprised to me. I thought for sure, he said.

1136
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: I listen, I teach guys, a man with his head

1137
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: just goes to the face. You're posted to kill him.

1138
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking he ain't gotta chick my hand too fast. Man,

1139
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Mike's stipping my stuff so quick. Ah okay, I see

1140
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: what you might test. I remember the interview afterwards. Are

1141
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: you looking at him like like, come on, bro, we

1142
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: ain't doing this a game my hip? So three days, bro,

1143
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing them days. They ain't got nod you go

1144
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: back and work out forward game or two. You'd be like, man,

1145
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm throwing them day do it? Ain't like this? No

1146
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: moment My reel is hurting them three and three and

1147
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: for every time. Then I gotta crap myself. No nothing,

1148
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: nothing that ain't him. Enough of that. Subscribe Mike in

1149
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: a few words, entertaining, crazy, funny, deceptive, because he's everything

1150
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: everything you think about Mike User the opposite everything you

1151
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: think about me, much more intelligent people, very intelligent, you know,

1152
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: a very very intelligent guys. So that ain't you're a

1153
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: good dude? May he really he's really deep downside, he's

1154
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: really good dude. We got a lot of bad reps.

1155
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: But you're good dude. You're way more gentle than people think.

1156
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: You know what, but you also but now he do

1157
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: have a switch your snap and he goes when he

1158
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: ran a good my damn face out, son of and

1159
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: always hand you're cheating. Anybody said, you gotta be chea

1160
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: wee what you're cheating for? The legend is you played

1161
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: the basketball with sweet Pea. Yeah we're be Sweetie team,

1162
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: but not sweet He could play and sweet people. All

1163
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: the vision one players on his team ain't had none.

1164
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I had to vision two players. You co players. He

1165
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: bought a whole stage. What was that great? Yeah? The

1166
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: late grates people now that was a bad dude to

1167
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: people don't give him enough credit. And he didn't care

1168
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: who he falls. He came from the same time I

1169
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: came I come from. We played King of the Hill.

1170
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: If you're the best, that's what it is. He didn't

1171
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: kill He tell him, don't tell me who is Tim,

1172
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: how much you're making what we don't need to be

1173
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, don't worry about who was on the side.

1174
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: That's how cool he will be. But anyway, he was

1175
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: a good basketball player. He always talked and always talking,

1176
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: always talk. So we set up a select to gain

1177
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: HPO article, the late great Article. One of my favorite

1178
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: people I've ever met. He made my HBO tenure way

1179
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: better than el could have been because he was an

1180
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: angel of HBO starters as a mayor, room dude and

1181
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: worked were all well twin executive black dude Artor Curry

1182
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: died probably ten twelve years ago, but he was one

1183
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: of my favorite people of all time. So anyway, Arty

1184
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: was in charge of relationships. In relationship between HPU and

1185
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: the fighters. He did the human relations part. So he

1186
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: set the game up between me and Sweep. Three people

1187
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: on this team the post of colasp All paid for

1188
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: the thing, and h we got Lon. So in the

1189
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: arena data they they he had like I said he

1190
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: had like he had pretty much a Division one team

1191
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: and I got a jew coal team. Know what I'm saying,

1192
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, my guys probably play Boy together because

1193
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: we played in the city league. So his guys they

1194
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: just all could play. But they play together as much

1195
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: as we did, I don't think. So. They led the

1196
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: game for like three quarters and last quarter got about

1197
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: three minute stuft to go, they were still they let

1198
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: us but like fifteen for the whole game because they

1199
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: complete and sweet people in bed either So, but the

1200
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: last quarter my team were known come back in the

1201
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Last quarter they left big Ail open and

1202
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: big people don't know big Al, but Bigail was a

1203
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: little short. But I thought, you know, big Ail was

1204
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of gott ahead of shot that he could have

1205
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: been head. He had the right guys, he could have

1206
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: made it to leave because the dude could shoot the

1207
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: ball better than not people see walking in the face

1208
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: of the earth today and we all know people at

1209
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: home like that kind of guys, you know. So he

1210
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: came down and left open. He hit one three they

1211
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: cannot miss. He came but down the left over here

1212
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: another three, they cannot miss. The came down again. I said,

1213
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: they left over third time. I gave to him here

1214
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: another three. That's nine points. And from now we just

1215
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: put both dog. So we came at the last three

1216
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: minutes of the game and we won the game. But

1217
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: it was a great game. He had a better team

1218
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: than I had, but my team had played together more.

1219
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah a game, mad game defth handed bright hands for

1220
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: people do it all. Yeah, as we be ever real game.

1221
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: We had Dion Sanders and he once told us about

1222
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: the day he played football and then flew that later

1223
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: night and played baseball. You played basketball during the day

1224
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: and far that night talk to us about that. Well.

1225
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: I was seeing Dan the Bowl Jackson do that. I

1226
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: was like, no, people not going to expect that a

1227
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: boxer can do two things and never thought a box

1228
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: can do that, but got number jack. Every day i'm training,

1229
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm sneading off playing basketball anywhere trained. So I'm like,

1230
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: I know I can do this because I do this

1231
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: every day. I grew up doing this, So how can

1232
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: I not do that? You feel me. It's gonna look

1233
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: strange to people, but this is what I do. If

1234
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: they if the gym boxing. I'm hoping and I hope

1235
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: every single day you feel min is that this is

1236
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: nothing my body or not you too, But to put

1237
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: on the stage they're gonna say, no, you don't do that. Well,

1238
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 1: since I'm not with big tample Motors and my own guy,

1239
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: I can do it. So I went in. Now, what

1240
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: was impressive, by the law was the guy fought Eric Lucas.

1241
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: After that he went on to become the WC Super

1242
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Theweight champion and he had a title for three years

1243
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: after that fight. So I ain't fighting on garbage, you

1244
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: understand me. So I'm just thinking, you know, even watching

1245
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: you know Darren Williams fight, how you gotta be in

1246
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: shape to be a boxer to go play basketball. I

1247
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: should beat your legs up all day and then box.

1248
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: And that just credits to what have what great shape?

1249
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: He was saying, how many rounds of that? I mean

1250
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: around level? I think they stopped in the level round.

1251
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: What I won't fight? He took a good punch to

1252
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: who you following these days? In the NBA, You've got

1253
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: players teams. I followed more players than I follow a team.

1254
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: One of my favorites is uh, DAMNONO. I like Damn

1255
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: a lot called Damn big time Dame show up. I

1256
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: tell you a little CP like carry like Yanna because

1257
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: Yann is a different dog. I like Katie Yan is

1258
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: definitely different. Animal, like John Morant now he's coming on

1259
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: the scene, you know, like Devin Booker. You know, I

1260
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys, know what. I like a

1261
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: lot of killers. I like guys killer the Metal. I mean,

1262
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: don't get it wrong. I like Lebron too. I mean,

1263
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: but I'll be looking more for the guys that reminded

1264
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: me at the old school guys going from I like

1265
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: them dogs, you know what I'm saying. I like people

1266
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna go out there and no matter what y'all

1267
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: putting from me, you're not stopping me. That's what I like,

1268
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So who you uh? The

1269
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: only prediction for the finals? Um, I don't know. Lek's

1270
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to beat them because if they can

1271
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: get Devil calls Westbrook when got in the right direction here, animal,

1272
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: he played hard of it, but out they just just

1273
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: gotta keep him under control. But when you're getting under control,

1274
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: he's something to deal with a lot of I'm a

1275
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: westro fan too because of how hard to play, saying

1276
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: some taking get off offside, off balance a live bit,

1277
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: but his intent is always good and I love his intent. Now,

1278
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: if you can take a Lebron who can help gut

1279
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: him and control them a little bit, and Ady can

1280
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: be healthy. They still don't be hard to be you know. So, um,

1281
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: Dallas is a team that always have to watch because

1282
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: Dallas has a pretty good team, I think, a better

1283
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: team and people give them credit for and their team

1284
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: is a little different with Luca and prosingles. I'm prosingles

1285
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: is an issue because he's so tall. But we can

1286
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: do it all, I'm saying, and so having them too,

1287
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: And I said, Jayden Bronson ain't bad. And we know

1288
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: how the way Dream ain't bad. They got they got

1289
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: a good team. Demon has a good team. Utah's an

1290
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: excellent team. There's a lot of good teams like that.

1291
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: So you know, I ain't give the Sunday can come

1292
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: from anywhere, but it's about who has the continuality. At

1293
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,959
Speaker 1: the end of the season, Matrix reloaded alongside Keiana Reeves

1294
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: and Lawrence Fishburn. What was that like? That was good, man.

1295
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: It was one of the best times I had. It

1296
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: was different for me because it was a whole movie.

1297
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, rich Adriana movie, you do everything that.

1298
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: God has been so good to me. Man, I just

1299
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: had to be thankful to God if everything's ever given me,

1300
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: because I never thought I would be a rap or

1301
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: basketball player, none of that in the movie. Guy just

1302
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: never thought of the commentary, never thought so many things

1303
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: that God added on to me. And I thought I

1304
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: got what I was going on because of my faith

1305
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: in my trust and God. He gave me so much

1306
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: that I mean, I never thought of being the Heavway

1307
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: Chamber the world. You know what I'm saying. When I

1308
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: won my first national tournament. My first national tournament was

1309
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: one of a hundred and eighteen pounds. How are you

1310
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna be Heavay Chimer world? You a hundred eighteen pounds

1311
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: for my first national tournament. I was a hundred of pounds.

1312
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: Do you think I had any thoughts could even look

1313
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: at the Heavway Wrong? No, and now who I am

1314
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: heit with Chamber the world. If you believe and have

1315
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: faith in God, there's no limits to what God can

1316
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: take you. You got a chance to work on Creek too.

1317
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: Thoughts about rebooting that starting Mic could be Jordan, that

1318
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: that was pretty good, might could be Jordan's a really

1319
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: good job in the movie. Actually I didn't know they

1320
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: had me. I said to go get in the next one.

1321
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: But because you ain't gotta fight coming up February fifth,

1322
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: so I gotta miss to the film dates. I'm trying

1323
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: to see now that they can redo it, but if not,

1324
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: then I might miss it. But the guy, I think

1325
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: they gotta create three coming up. And I was supposed

1326
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: to go be a commentating out and I love the movies.

1327
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: I love acting, although being a commentary doesn't require much

1328
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: acting because it's what I do for real, so but

1329
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: it still be good. You know you're back. I've seen

1330
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: the fight was the last fight. What you think you

1331
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: need to switch up? What? You just gotta quit being

1332
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: so much of a banger and use this a little

1333
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: bit more because this will takeular father needs will If

1334
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: you use this to control these, you can go a

1335
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: lot of further than you use this to control these.

1336
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: He'd been fighting me up this control needs, and I'm

1337
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: trying to get into use this to control these, not this.

1338
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't even put you on the spot. But do

1339
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: you think his father is kind of doing what? You

1340
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: know I'm and was father hindering him a little bit?

1341
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. His father is actually a lot of

1342
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: things out of his way. And he talked to him,

1343
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: but he stays out of his weight. I think for

1344
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: a while he may have been in a little bit more,

1345
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: but I think they realized that that's not the right

1346
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: way for them, so he got out. And I think

1347
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: that's why he employed me because he knows that I know.

1348
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: But like he said, some things, you're gonna be tearing

1349
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: my son better than I am because me being around

1350
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: me and his father, they're so long. It's different. The

1351
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: same with my son myself at basketball. But I can't

1352
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: tell you now. I need to call when y'all tell,

1353
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: because I can't tepe. I'm gonna put you on the

1354
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: spot again. Yeah, you would have stopped to fight if

1355
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: you was sean part of popson. No right, No, A

1356
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: lot of people say that I want to stop, you know,

1357
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: because that's why I said, just a fine line between

1358
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: that and he I can say, you know, you can

1359
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: say I'm worried about my son, but when it comes

1360
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: to that, you gotta let him be the man. You

1361
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: can't go out there and protect together and be a

1362
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: man because he go out like he want to go out,

1363
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: and no excuse, you got a little go like like

1364
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: you wanted to go out. It might not be what

1365
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: he chose to do. He made it look like he

1366
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: made it about himself. The Pole's that's why I chapped you,

1367
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: because if I had leave because but God showed me

1368
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: that some of those guys don't see it to this

1369
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: too late. That's why I asked that question of which

1370
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: fight the president that you see a lot of your

1371
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: stuff in bootsings. You've seen Boots fight Boots, Boots a

1372
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: bad boy. Boot shows a lot of my stuff. I

1373
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: see it quite a few guys. But Boots sing this,

1374
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: I still living in low machine cold because has the

1375
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: footwork down paded along with the angles and all I

1376
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: see it. I see myself on a lot of fighters

1377
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: because a lot of guys do a lot of things

1378
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: that they learned from watching me. Um. But you know,

1379
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: Carnello is a bad dude here. You might stop, but

1380
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,439
Speaker 1: you're a bad dude. You think you think he really

1381
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: that that? He that rows that us. A lot of

1382
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: people have got Cannello on the Is he really that?

1383
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: Is he that what you said? He that? I think

1384
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: he is that? But in my pain, he still got

1385
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: a little bit to prove because he's being some really

1386
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: good father beating triples. You was a big thing, but

1387
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: he still got a little bit more. He has a

1388
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: little bit more to go because he got to be

1389
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: the guy that has that has some of the qualities

1390
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: and credibilities that flow aheads. If Charlot No, it's gonna

1391
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: not gonna be gonna to beat Yallo, but that's not

1392
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: gonna do it because we're going to see him against

1393
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: a little bit stick a guy. Give me example, I

1394
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: gotta boo boo boo boo boooo, gonna be Himo, don't

1395
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: go and box traditional boobo fight with smarts because man

1396
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: Junior fight with the smarts a different cult for him.

1397
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: So people like that is who you want to see

1398
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: in fight because we know what we could do against

1399
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: guy the brawls and that that's gonna go out and

1400
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: go to the toe. He can handle that. But that's

1401
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: not how Floyd beat him. So like the la getting

1402
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: my hard time because he boxed him with this, So

1403
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: we gotta see him fight him by the boxes with

1404
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: this and seem dominate that person. Then he'd be what

1405
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: I want to see him be, which I'm not saying can't.

1406
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: So it's like people get so sensitive nowadays because stuff

1407
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: that you say. But like I was trying to tell people.

1408
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: When Errol Spans fought Sean Porter, I wasn't saying that

1409
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna guarantee that Erl Spence can be called can

1410
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: be Aerospences. No, I said, Sean Porter, what the first

1411
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: dude that's gonna show us what el Spences. They didn't

1412
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: say that Aerospence didn't have the goods. I never said that.

1413
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: I just said, Sean Porter's the first dude they're gonna

1414
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: show us if he really got the goods. And he

1415
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: did that knockdown, that fact was either or sure it

1416
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: might have been winning. But once he knocked, now he took.

1417
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: He took over. So it showed that he doesn't have

1418
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: the goods to make me even more now I want

1419
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: to see him and tears cough in the m But

1420
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: this did not get in that. But I didn't say

1421
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: who I thought when I still don't know who it's

1422
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: just because I think that I don't mean that either.

1423
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: But I did see him show against Sean Porter that

1424
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: he didn't have a dog in mean that he could

1425
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: put off put it off against a top nice guy

1426
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: called Seanport is one of the guys right there at

1427
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: the threshold of being great. You feel me. So you

1428
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: beat him? Now you get Now I got a little

1429
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: bit more comfortent than you and your efforts against Cofor

1430
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: that caff For beat Porter a little bit worse than

1431
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: you did. Just done it, Porter, Porter. But styles also

1432
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: make fights. That still don't mean that Corford can beat you.

1433
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: But right now Corfor has the edge because I've seen

1434
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: Cofford more so and I've seen against a few more different,

1435
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: different caliberns of opposition that I see you against. I

1436
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: was saying that you can't beat Confer. I'll just say

1437
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: that I've seen Corford more and against more different known

1438
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: competition than I see him against. They took out he

1439
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: don't like yours. Come on, man, you know how they do.

1440
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna do. You know what I'm saying

1441
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: that shot. I didn't say that. I see that this

1442
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: dude will be the first real opposition opposition that we

1443
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: see that we can judge them afoot. And it was

1444
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: because it was a hell of a fight until they

1445
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: when you dropped me, he took over. But it was

1446
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: a good damn fight. Your feeling so Davis, bad dude,

1447
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: Bad dude. See what I like about Tank is tain't

1448
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 1: bring something different? You know, back in the days, everybody

1449
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: has something. Homedy he was a move a box of

1450
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 1: George was a puncher. Earnest Stables was a puncher. Everybody

1451
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: has something about to take their Holmes had a jail Mike.

1452
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: We've had over here and right. You know what I'm saying,

1453
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: everybody has something. That division now is full and Tank

1454
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: having to be the knockout guy of the division, he

1455
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: didn't want it with the main knockout power. I see

1456
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: it has two, but tin't got the real knockout power.

1457
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: That like, if Tank hit when I'm cleaning you, they're

1458
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 1: gonna have a proper So it's like, I like Tank,

1459
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: uh every now then I think he just I think

1460
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: when he knows he can beat somebody, he probably don't

1461
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: take it, don't lock in his hard But I think

1462
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: when they bring challenges, he locks in calls competition and

1463
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: he got to be careful that he was really doing that.

1464
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: So you gotta be careful of that because if you

1465
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 1: come in and think somebody is not at your level,

1466
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 1: you and estimate him, it can get your beat. So

1467
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: I just don't think. I think you gotta be careful

1468
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: of Other than that, Tanks are really good fighter tanks

1469
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: are good fighter. Uh, it's a lot of guys that

1470
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: we class. For Garcia Lopez, do this, beat Lopez, Loma Um,

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,560
Speaker 1: young guy, Devin hanging Man. So many good guys that

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Speaker 1: we class. But we need to see him fight each

1473
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: other so we can figure out who to cream on

1474
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: the carp good, very good guy, very smart guy. Wins

1475
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: more with smartness than he does with skill. He uses

1476
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 1: his knowledge, his size, he takes advantage of his size.

1477
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: And I liked it about Tyson Fur and he's not

1478
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: afraid to fight nobody. The only thing I tell people,

1479
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't want to see him a

1480
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: music fight. Right now, we're going to heavy division is music.

1481
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: And Joshua was a great fight Fury, And while it

1482
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: wasn't even better fight for the fans, let's keep the

1483
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: fans into the heavway division right now. If you put

1484
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: us against against Fury, a lot of people think the

1485
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: big the better big big man beats the better small man,

1486
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: and so we leaned toward Fury. But either guy could

1487
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: win the fight. But neither guy's a real knockout puncher,

1488
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: and right now in headways, we want to see knockouts,

1489
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: or at least knockdowns, you know what I'm saying, or

1490
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: at least somebody get hurt somebody or know that somebody

1491
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: can knock somebody in any given tags Wilder, that's a

1492
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: good fight. We love that kind of fight. Somebody somebody

1493
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: that's that way to happen, that's not waiting to happen.

1494
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: Those kind of fights, those a kind of fight we

1495
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: want to see. If you don't come from you understand

1496
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: that that's what we want. We know that's like that

1497
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: waiting to happen. That's that's what we really want to

1498
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: see in the headweight division. That's what we want to see.

1499
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: Thoughts on Jake Paul me, you gotta get a man

1500
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: of credit. You know, he came out there some beautiful things.

1501
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 1: He showed what you can do with social media. He

1502
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: showed you the effects that social media can have on sport.

1503
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: And you know he tries hard. He works hard as

1504
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: a boxer. I mean for a guy that's not didn't

1505
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: start his career as a boxer. He given the hill

1506
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: because you're making more one of the most of them

1507
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: can the smart way. He's you. He's showing you what

1508
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: you can do if you calask two. The God has

1509
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: given you. Now, he's a perfect example every every boxer

1510
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: should market themselves. He's a perfect example. So if you

1511
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: hate on him some roles, you need to be learning

1512
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: from him. Don't hate the game he play. Learn from

1513
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: him because he's doing some good. Look how much money

1514
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: making any beating others? Two and he's not really he

1515
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: didn't start the thing as a boxer. Look what are

1516
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: you're doing? Show time? You know showtime? Better believe it? Man,

1517
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: this has been great. We appreciate you coming down to

1518
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: the home stretch right now. So the first thing to

1519
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: come to mind, let us know your mount rushmore boxing.

1520
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Mama egals at the top, Mama Da

1521
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: Mama Daly sugaring up, Save door Sanchez, brother Duran. It's

1522
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: a lot of one that there. But don't polo forma

1523
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: put up? Then stop a door Sanchez. I gotta go

1524
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 1: look him up on the best Mexican pilers of all time.

1525
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. Go look at all the

1526
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,879
Speaker 1: people fight fine, but in a fifteen round fight against

1527
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: stiff opposition. You look at him around one, between around one,

1528
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: around two, and go look at between around fourteen, around fifteen,

1529
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: he looks identic clar the same identical. He looks identical

1530
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 1: in between around oneted to and do between round fourteen

1531
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 1: and fifteen. I ain't never seen nobody to do that. Nobody.

1532
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: This dude looks identical between around one and two and

1533
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: round four and five and round eight and nine as

1534
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: you're doing around fourteen and fifteen. I've never seen nothing

1535
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: like in my life. That's who. I also got a

1536
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: lot of my game from them, but the best tricks

1537
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: to ever see. Everybody got their things sugar. Then I

1538
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: had the hand speed, and he had hand foot speed

1539
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: and entertainment with the mouth, had her head consistently time

1540
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: I had that thing with the right hand. The Hulk

1541
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: was just busy all the time. Duran had the trickery.

1542
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: Duran was the best tricks that I ever seen. Was

1543
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: just like condition wise, and he wasn't He wasn't flashing,

1544
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 1: He didn't have that acceleration that you want. But my gosh,

1545
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: for fifteen rounds standing with there a hunt a mint

1546
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: out fifteen, the dude could do it. I gotta look him.

1547
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: You just told us all the grades and what they had,

1548
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: and what would you say about yourself? I took all

1549
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: of that in packages. That's not taste so good. I

1550
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: took all that and all I took all that in package.

1551
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: You take twelve grades and you take what makes them great,

1552
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: and you put all that in one person cannot be great.

1553
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: You understand me. I mean, I probably shouldn't say that

1554
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: because y'all know it's better me too, though, But it

1555
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: takes depth current And you said, Reggie Miller with heimples,

1556
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: m hm, shoot the damn all and they just didn't

1557
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: have a hempn steff. But look at Stiff. He took

1558
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: what what what? What? What? What Reggie was missing and

1559
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: he added that. And because he's doing it so well now,

1560
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: he probably better shoot him because of the conference that

1561
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: goes with But he basically if you look at the

1562
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: basic route when he really is he really he really

1563
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 1: is a Miller type shooter who was a great shooter.

1564
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: But with him, you understand me, you gotta learn how

1565
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: to take what's happening now and how you elevate them.

1566
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: That's what makes you better, that's what makes you great.

1567
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: If you take a great I mean chocolate tito, he

1568
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: followed the great late grade at Alexes. Alexis a quail

1569
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: copy Alexe wale stuff and a powder A little bit

1570
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: more condition, a little more acrobatics with it, and look

1571
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: at him. He became quick a hundred six times twit

1572
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: pounder hundred six pounds became great because he followed what

1573
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: alexas Quil did and they got one of these names

1574
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: in boxing, chocolate chol. So it's like you have to

1575
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: take the greatness and figure out how you take that

1576
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 1: the great today, how you add your to make that

1577
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: the greetings of tomorrow. That's what I did. I had

1578
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: should warn Marvin had a time of hand and put

1579
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: the rain hom Natalie salth door since yes and listen.

1580
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: I had quite. I had about a dozen that used

1581
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: to watch, and I used to watch them to see

1582
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: what made them different, because whatever made them different, I

1583
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: gotta hear that. That's on the clock. I want what

1584
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: makes them different. Haggler was to consistency with the beneath

1585
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: with the defense, turn her her hand with the right

1586
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: hand and stop. Mohammad was left to the body level

1587
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: of shot. I got something from some of all of them,

1588
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: but I took what made them them. I sent all

1589
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: those characteristics and trying to put them in my came

1590
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: so that when you look at me, you see all

1591
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: the that's how it became pounder pound You understanding who

1592
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: else you know go through a thirty punch combedition? Roy

1593
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: Jones should writ none I could Roy Jones. Mahama that

1594
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: they could Roy Jones. You said a thirty punch. I

1595
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: get tired thinking about that. A lot of punches for you.

1596
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: But that's a But what the crowd I want to

1597
01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: see was we should We don't? Did it? Everybody doing crazy?

1598
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: They did it? They go crazy. So you gotta you

1599
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: have to give the people their money worthy. They gonna

1600
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: pay attention. If you're not, then you just another box

1601
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: What fights you want to see them? Lightweights get to

1602
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: get on a fight. Yeah, but I would like to

1603
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: see Whyden Wild and uh Joshua fight just because we

1604
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: always want to see it and they got bad blood exactly.

1605
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: I would definitely to see that fight. I want to

1606
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: see Charlot versus Canelo. I really want to see you

1607
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: Bank versus Carnelo. I want to see you your Bank

1608
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: versus Charlot. I want to see Charlotte versus Bubble. That's

1609
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: a lot of good fights out that that we want

1610
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: to see. But the reason UFC has gotten so much

1611
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: more entertaining in boxing because the people get the fight

1612
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 1: they want to say, they gotta go see boxing. We

1613
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: gotta get the fights that people want to see. Good point.

1614
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: If we don't do that, then we waste our time.

1615
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: If someone were to do a biopic of your life,

1616
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: what acting would play you hard to say, but I

1617
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: even big into actors. But I'm thinking Cuba, Cuba Good

1618
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: and Junior m somebody like that used regardless of anything,

1619
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: He's a great actor, is one of the best. I

1620
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: give him that. Top five artists all the time artists.

1621
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: My favorite gonna be scar Face. It's really hard to

1622
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: say because scar Face scar Face. You know, you gotta

1623
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: understand that a lot of people do their thing. You know,

1624
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 1: you could do a thing, Eminem do a thing DMX

1625
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: for one of my favorite, um Met the Man. The

1626
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: list goes on so many guys, Juvia. I mean, I

1627
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: just love I love everybody that just can come up

1628
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: and do hit records over and over and over again.

1629
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: The my guy. Everybody have different styles, you know what

1630
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, So like the're the ones I like, I'm

1631
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: gonna listen to somebody first it's gonna probably be scar Face,

1632
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 1: then X, then Meth, then Park, then probably Big. It

1633
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: mean that's even They'm gonna be in enough somewhere. It's

1634
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: just it's so many guys. I listened to all of

1635
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: them because every to have with the I just cute

1636
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: everybody because I just love music. So everybody hit one

1637
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: hand and there that I'm gonna like. You know what

1638
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So um morbe what new new new? Like today?

1639
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: Acts you listen to? Of course you like NBA, young boy,

1640
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: that's my man. Everybody like you boy? Yeah, you know

1641
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: I like your boy. So if you I like Jesus,

1642
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: that like, I mean, Jesus ain't new, but I like

1643
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: I like a lot of them. I like a lot

1644
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: of I don't like I list a lot of new music.

1645
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I ain't really be on the new

1646
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: music as I having the old music. Five dinner guests

1647
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: that are alive dinner guess yeah, five people at your

1648
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: table plus you that are alive. Barry Sender's mom, DaLie

1649
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, Michael Jordan's out of Bear, No sweetness, Barry,

1650
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: it's never a bad choice. I gotta give him something. Looking,

1651
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the only looking at me, look at me.

1652
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: They don't look too If you can have any guests

1653
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: on our show who would it be? But before you answer,

1654
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to help us get your answer on

1655
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: the show. About to have a guest on the show.

1656
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: You know a lot of heavy hitters too, and a

1657
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: lot of people. I'm trying to thank who I would like?

1658
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna trip out? Who I want you to say?

1659
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: I think everybody might trip out. Who Larry Merchant? That

1660
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: would be pretty big. I would love to interview him, bro.

1661
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: But now to come think about it, I think Jim

1662
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: Napply wouldn't be a band with two Yeah, yeah for sure, yes, yeah. Man.

1663
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Thank you, Thank you very much.

1664
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: That's a wrap all the Smoke Hall of Famer Roy Jones.

1665
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: You can catch us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube, and the

1666
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: Heart platform Black Effects. We'll see you all next week.

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01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,400
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