Speaker 1: Well, well, well, the day has come and I've been waiting.
Speaker 1: We've been waiting, You've been waiting, We've all been waiting.
Speaker 1: Even my mother has been waiting. Because NBA Action has
Speaker 1: returneth and the regular season hath kick off. We're going
Speaker 1: to react to opening night and over tonight it was
Speaker 1: for me and my fellow Lakers fans, and we're also
Speaker 1: gonna get into some of the latest news and notes
Speaker 1: from around the league. And we're gonna do that all
Speaker 1: with podcaster and Spurs analyst Tom Patrini on today's episode.
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray and I'm producer Bori in for Jack
Speaker 1: and this is Miles. Miles got man, Man, we got
Speaker 1: the back, DoD Sorry, got it? Look a doit, hitch.
Speaker 1: Ok there you go, be driving spinning Fat number eighteen
Speaker 1: that's been secured the Suffix or NBA Champions over the
Speaker 1: double Ta. Okay, So Top Petrini, you're back after a
Speaker 1: little over a year. It's great to have your reporter
Speaker 1: for the Silver and Black Coffee Hour. And as you admitted,
Speaker 1: I remember before he said, Wow, I'm so glad. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if you guys going to have you back
Speaker 1: because I was bullish on the Spurs. Last time we
Speaker 1: were talking about the Southwest preview. I remember that, and
Speaker 1: that's fine because I didn't remember that. Most of us
Speaker 1: didn't remember that. But we all got to see Wemby
Speaker 1: and that's all that matters because his performance has erased
Speaker 1: any sort of predictions anyone may have had, because he
Speaker 1: delivered on the promise of being an alien. So and
Speaker 1: that's all we wanted to see.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad my takes are so forgettable, Miles, geez, but.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding you know what.
Speaker 2: I I think that the Wemby outperformed any reasonable expectations
Speaker 2: set for him and the and the expectation seems pretty unreasonable,
Speaker 2: and he cleared those two.
Speaker 1: You could have had some more blocks, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: a few more.
Speaker 2: He would have, except for guys kept doing this thing
Speaker 2: where they would drive and they wouldn't even be able
Speaker 2: to see him. They would just like know he was
Speaker 2: there right behind him somewhere, and they were like.
Speaker 3: Right, yes, that's a better idea.
Speaker 1: That should be a data point is the fear, the
Speaker 1: fear of the alien abduction. Basically what we call that
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in an open field at
Speaker 1: night with a white light hovering above you because that
Speaker 1: could be a block coming your way.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: It's also like when you were playing in a driveway
Speaker 4: against like an older sibling or like you're dad or
Speaker 4: somebody and you know they're coming, but you're.
Speaker 1: Still gonna Yeah. Yeah, you feel the shadow come over
Speaker 1: you in the street light because you're playing at night.
Speaker 1: I've already played this game before, but anyway, it's great
Speaker 1: to have you back. There's so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: I mean, just with the two opening night game first up,
Speaker 1: Celtics versus Knicks. I had the pleasure of being in
Speaker 1: New York City for about eleven hours yesterday for a
Speaker 1: work meeting. But the energy was I walked by Madison
Speaker 1: Square Garden on my way to Penn Station. The energy
Speaker 1: was great. There was like a lot of excited Knicks fans.
Speaker 1: There were like a ton of did you see that
Speaker 1: meme of the guy who wrote his wife a letter
Speaker 1: about watching the Knicks And he's like, dear wife, I
Speaker 1: know we have been together for twelve years, but I
Speaker 1: must confess something to you. And then you're like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? He's like, tonight is opening night for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: I will cease to be a husband. Or a father
Speaker 1: as I revel in the basketball opening night.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I didn't see that, And I gotta say,
Speaker 2: just like, as a man who's been in a relationship
Speaker 2: for a while and as somebody who has spent you know,
Speaker 2: I grew up in New York, I know what Knicks
Speaker 2: culture is. If you spend any time as a Knicks
Speaker 2: fan or a man in a relationship, you know how
Speaker 2: dumb an idea that letter is. Yeah, yeah, right, like yeah,
Speaker 2: don't is that any familiarity with either one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? That was a straight Twitter play and you
Speaker 1: may have played yourself into a divorce or at least
Speaker 1: being the doghouse. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I saw tweets after, like I wonder how he felt
Speaker 2: like going into halftime, like should I call it? Like yeah, actually,
Speaker 2: you know what, babe, I thought about it, and it's
Speaker 2: like I'm a Giants fan, right okay? And Week one
Speaker 2: this year like like they gave me that little glimmer
Speaker 2: of hope right out of date and then like immediately
Speaker 2: smashed it to pieces in Week one And I was like, babe,
Speaker 2: you know what, if you want to do apple picking
Speaker 2: on Sundays, we can doday. There's a wonderful, clear, nice
Speaker 2: Sundays for the rest of fall. I don't give a
Speaker 2: damn Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah Tom. As a Raiders fan, trust saow and.
Speaker 4: It's always week one, I'm feeling like, hey, you know what,
Speaker 4: this might be our year.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we talk ourselves into it.
Speaker 1: So Celtics, it's ringing. As a Lakers fan, I don't
Speaker 1: like to see the number be better than the one
Speaker 1: on the back of my jerseys, okay, and that is
Speaker 1: what has happened. And yes, Boston fans sip my tears
Speaker 1: because they are running down my face as I have
Speaker 1: to admit this. But yeah, I was like, let's see
Speaker 1: what happens, because I think going into this I was
Speaker 1: I think most people very excited about this new Knicks
Speaker 1: team and you know, the added pieces there. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, this Celtics team does not
Speaker 1: look weaker at any point going into the season. And
Speaker 1: my fears were confirmed rather aggressively from the get I
Speaker 1: mean it was close to maybe the first ten minutes,
Speaker 1: I would say, and then slowly the three pointers did
Speaker 1: not stop, and I was absolutely I was texting Jabari.
Speaker 1: I was like, these guys are monsters and I don't know,
Speaker 1: how how do we stop them? Jack was saying, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing as last year. It's the Celtics versus
Speaker 1: the field, and that's what it looked like. How did
Speaker 1: you how did you take that in? Tom?
Speaker 3: I mean shout out to Wick grosspec Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, if if I ever had just a ton
Speaker 2: of money and it was like, oh we we you know,
Speaker 2: luxury tax, it'll be scary, Like I don't know, just like.
Speaker 3: Do it do it whatever?
Speaker 1: Dad?
Speaker 3: Yo?
Speaker 2: Like yoloa the hell out of this roster construction. And
Speaker 2: that's why there's such a unit. That's why they're they're
Speaker 2: just an absolute juggernaut. Like I mean sports guy here,
Speaker 2: Derek White, very you know, key addition, but like get
Speaker 2: to see Al Horford get his ring right, a guy
Speaker 2: who was like like a gigantic piece of that team
Speaker 2: that was I think super underrated.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 2: They are one of the best teams I have ever seen,
Speaker 2: one through eight, one through nine, like ever ever And yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how you stop that. You
Speaker 2: hope they miss. But they they.
Speaker 3: Also played beautiful basketball.
Speaker 2: They moved the ball well, they play for each other,
Speaker 2: they defend, Yeah, Tatum, I think statement game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, chip in the form of a ring on
Speaker 1: your finger and chip on your shoulder as well. He
Speaker 1: came into that one.
Speaker 3: At the same time, he has nothing to prove to
Speaker 3: anybody and also so much to prove.
Speaker 1: I think, like like crazy, but it's like no, we
Speaker 1: get it, no, we get it.
Speaker 2: Well, he's coming off a ring, like genuinely, the case
Speaker 2: against him for MVP is you've got an amazing team
Speaker 2: one through nine, right right, And so then he goes
Speaker 2: out and drops thirty I think he had thirty. He
Speaker 2: had thirty two like two minutes into the second half, right,
Speaker 2: you know, right, like and yeah, he he's fantastic. The
Speaker 2: Celtics in general are fantastic. And somebody's gonna have to
Speaker 2: pay the piper at some point, yeah, like yeah, just
Speaker 2: with money, but like you know right now, that's how
Speaker 2: stuff gets done.
Speaker 1: So let's be present, let's be president, because right.
Speaker 2: Now we're we're witnessing a machine, a basketball in the machine.
Speaker 1: To watch, Even for me as a hater, I'm like
Speaker 1: I have to sit there again with tears streaming down
Speaker 1: my face because I'm like this is unsd I don't
Speaker 1: know how you how do you compete with this? Twenty
Speaker 1: nine from sixty one to three point attempts twenty nine three.
Speaker 1: But are they like eighteen in the first half?
Speaker 2: None of those are chucking like they generate so many
Speaker 2: good shots. Yes, as an offense, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: like pretty much every team that goes to face them
Speaker 2: this season is going to go on to the floor
Speaker 2: and feel like, oh, we're not the better team.
Speaker 4: I was talking to Miles about this before the show,
Speaker 4: and the reality is, and let me say officially, I
Speaker 4: am the biggest hater. I hate the way that they walk,
Speaker 4: I hate the way that they talk, I hate the
Speaker 4: way that they dress. And I will acknowledge everything you
Speaker 4: said is one hundred percent accurate. They are going to
Speaker 4: be the best team on the floor regardless. If ever
Speaker 4: there were a time where a team would come off
Speaker 4: sluggish or could you know, you could you could excuse it,
Speaker 4: you know, like no pusingis you know they had the
Speaker 4: long summer.
Speaker 1: No, they came out.
Speaker 4: And this is the part that I was, you know,
Speaker 4: discussed with Mouse just ahead of the show, is they
Speaker 4: have embraced like the city of Boston's attitude and that
Speaker 4: should be very scary to the rest of us.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that's terrible.
Speaker 2: I went to school up there, I lived there for
Speaker 2: five years, and Boston's a lovely place. Lovely people in Boston,
Speaker 2: a lot of them, but it is very much a
Speaker 2: like like and dude, we got to talk about Missoula. Man,
Speaker 2: that guy somebody did the like, uh true, detective, I
Speaker 2: just want you to keep saying odd stuff like he
Speaker 2: says the weirdest stuff and it's amazing, like there, you know,
Speaker 2: he was asked like is there pressure, like you know,
Speaker 2: do you guys feel feel pressure? And he was like,
Speaker 2: we're all going to be dead soon and none of
Speaker 2: you are invited into my funeral.
Speaker 1: To my funeral. That's what do you say to that? Yeah, transcendence, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you talked about it.
Speaker 2: He talking about us meniscus and the surgery being fun.
Speaker 1: He's an animal. He's an animal, like he.
Speaker 2: Might be the guy who was wearing the saw mask,
Speaker 2: like right, that's who.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a.
Speaker 2: Little unhinged, and this whole team is a little unhinged,
Speaker 2: and like there there always is sort of a Boston
Speaker 2: against the world mentality and that that mass whole vibe.
Speaker 2: And now they can talk all their talk, right because
Speaker 2: they got that.
Speaker 3: Ring with all of those.
Speaker 2: I always love seeing that when they get the ring
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, this is eighteen diamonds here because
Speaker 2: it's more than the Lakers, right, yeah, and that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 1: What do you mean right, you're just rubbing that in
Speaker 1: Tom right, Well you've got.
Speaker 3: That first you brought. I actually hadn't thought of it.
Speaker 1: Part of me almost fired off.
Speaker 4: You're seventeen to six, but I know he probably would
Speaker 4: have come back with twenty seven to seven because yeah, yeah, sport,
Speaker 4: our baseball teams are square enough.
Speaker 1: Bring bro right here Lake Dodgers versus Yankees fans. That's
Speaker 1: again this this is a great time to be a
Speaker 1: sports fan.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1: So is there do we see any any version of
Speaker 1: reality and the multi verse of madness where this team
Speaker 1: is not straight to the finals again? Because I'm I'm like,
Speaker 1: that has to be one of the worst bets in
Speaker 1: sports right now. It's like betting on the Celtics to win.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, man, what do you want
Speaker 1: your money back?
Speaker 2: They're just so deep, so deep, there's so deep. There's
Speaker 2: so deep that like I wouldn't I wouldn't touch that. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: think about this. Both of our teams could use a
Speaker 2: Lonnie Walker.
Speaker 4: They made it the day before the season, were like, hey,
Speaker 4: you know what, thanks, thanks for your services. Like they're
Speaker 4: they're waving actual rotation contributed because they're that deep in.
Speaker 3: That strong Lottie's.
Speaker 2: Lottie is one of my absolute favorite guys that I've
Speaker 2: gotten to know in covering the Spurs. And you know,
Speaker 2: like also awesome story, awesome dude, and really rooting for
Speaker 2: him to find a place where you can contribute because
Speaker 2: like he's and and he was he was what an
Speaker 2: interesting career, right, You play for Greg Pavovich, you play
Speaker 2: with the Lakers and Lebron yea and and like and
Speaker 2: you're you're a microwave score you got you got the
Speaker 2: size and length to be like disruptive on the wing
Speaker 2: when you're locked in and can't find a spot in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 3: Is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So wishing the best for Lonnie Walker. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's an embarrassment of riches for the Celtics.
Speaker 2: Like I said, they're gonna have to pay for it,
Speaker 2: but like I'm not gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 3: I just get to watch, you know, It's not my
Speaker 3: money rightly.
Speaker 1: And what of the Knicks now? And I get it
Speaker 1: my expectations. I think we're through the roof. Also because
Speaker 1: like I'll entertain any possibility. We're like, yeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: the Celtics lose on Ring Night and then the Knicks
Speaker 1: can do it. Also taking out the fact that you
Speaker 1: know there they still need time to gel. This is
Speaker 1: not like the finished product coming at you day one one,
Speaker 1: game one. But what were you seeing? What I was looking?
Speaker 1: First of all, I was really it was really nice
Speaker 1: see Miles McBride like, really kind of step up. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, okay, sir, not only do you
Speaker 1: have a fantastic name, but what do you have? Like
Speaker 1: twenty two points? I think he was like the I
Speaker 1: think tied for points with Jalen Brunson. He was keeping
Speaker 1: him in it for a while. Yeah, yeah, he really was.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, this is like, okay,
Speaker 1: the pieces are there, but are you Do you feel
Speaker 1: any less or more excited after that? Obviously given the
Speaker 1: fact that this was the very first game and this
Speaker 1: is they're getting used to this new team, how'd you
Speaker 1: come away with that? Thinking about the Knicks, I've.
Speaker 2: Got kind of more questions about the Knicks, Uh, not
Speaker 2: really necessarily after that first game, but really after the
Speaker 2: trade to bring Karl Anthony Towns in, right, because the
Speaker 2: reason the Knicks were fun last year was because it
Speaker 2: looked like just five dudes and Tim's like stomping on
Speaker 2: whoever was in their way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Defensively, it was like a rock fight. Yeah, and they
Speaker 2: were you know, very physical, very aggressive in that way.
Speaker 2: And it's you know, starting on defense, right, classic Tips
Speaker 2: coach team. And now you have Karl Anthony Towns, who,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the great big men shooters of
Speaker 2: all time, surely is going to provide them a boost
Speaker 2: in that area. But now, like, especially as the center
Speaker 2: in a defensive scheme, like, you know, he did not
Speaker 2: look great and drop coverage last night. They were having
Speaker 2: a tough time when when he was getting put in actions.
Speaker 2: And granted it's the first game and you're going against
Speaker 2: the absolute gauntlet that is the Celtics roster. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I am interested to see how the grittiest team of
Speaker 2: last year adapts to having a guy who's viewed as
Speaker 2: like one of the softer like.
Speaker 1: Stars in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Right, right, And he looked like he belongs in a
Speaker 2: Knicks uniform, so it looks like he's been wearing that
Speaker 2: for a while for some reason.
Speaker 1: And he's a man being a Knicks fan too.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, Like there's there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: here where it's like this should be good and this
Speaker 2: should be fun and this should work better. But also
Speaker 2: like I'm curious to see how how it all plays out,
Speaker 2: and like they sort of yoled a little bit trying
Speaker 2: to get that power of friendship next team together and
Speaker 2: then like, you know, make this move right. And obviously
Speaker 2: Dante DiVincenzo is not the like center of that, but
Speaker 2: like what was a part of that? And like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna miss Hartenstein a lot more than
Speaker 2: people expect in terms of shorten that metal. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think I have more questions than answers
Speaker 2: about the Knicks, but like I hope they answer those
Speaker 2: questions in a distinctly New York way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that last you know, that last beat like
Speaker 4: just nails it on the head. They missed the dirty
Speaker 4: work guy. They missed the guy who's gonna get in
Speaker 4: there and rough it up. And I'm not even I'm
Speaker 4: not even gonna take this as an opportunity to you know,
Speaker 4: pile on cat, you know, Bodega cat.
Speaker 1: He is what he is at this stage.
Speaker 4: Like you, I was intrigued by, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: by that move specifically because it's like, okay, well what's
Speaker 4: round what's round two? With Tim's gonna look like for him?
Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't necessarily the greatest fit, and I
Speaker 4: think I mentioned this on last week's episode. It wasn't
Speaker 4: necessarily the greatest fit when he was young, but maybe
Speaker 4: at this stage in his career could be something different.
Speaker 4: But to that original point, you know, a guy is
Speaker 4: gonna be what he is, and they're probably going to
Speaker 4: need to address that and need to get you know,
Speaker 4: a dirty work big or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh man and Bridges, Poor poor macaude, the
Speaker 1: shooting macau McCaw. That was really Chris. What wasn't he
Speaker 1: like one of the best corner three point shooter last
Speaker 1: season or something like that or a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: You don't normally see jump shots get rebuilt when they work. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is confusing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm ignorant as to the inner workings of
Speaker 1: the professional basketball player's mind, but statistically, on paper, you
Speaker 1: are looking at a player like him, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm having that. This is a great weapon to add.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, hold on, this isn't broke, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and fix it. I don't understand what
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: A batting stance, Like, you know, you could refine everybody's
Speaker 2: batting stance to be the most like efficient and you know,
Speaker 2: mathematically perfect. You can take out the hitch and you
Speaker 2: can what it. But if if if you got something
Speaker 2: that you're comfortable with and you're hitting the ball, just
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly were people coming at Andris Galaraga for
Speaker 1: being so open, you know what I mean? I remember
Speaker 1: that bat like this is he looking off to the side.
Speaker 2: But the weirdest batting stance you can think of. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm a Yankee fan, but uclus always jumps to mind.
Speaker 1: Yo, Yeah the way the bat was Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just very But again, that's like one of
Speaker 1: those things where each person knows their body and that's
Speaker 1: just how they've played the game their whole life, and
Speaker 1: that's how they've worked it out to be proficient at
Speaker 1: a professional level.
Speaker 2: There's always at the why some like fifty year old
Speaker 2: man whose shot looks like like it comes all the
Speaker 2: way back here, right yep, and you're like, there's no
Speaker 2: there's no way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and somebody way, but you're yeah. It's like again,
Speaker 1: I understand, like with sprinters or like racing where you're
Speaker 1: you're you have to shave off milliseconds and that's like
Speaker 1: the difference between gold and silver or whatever. But again
Speaker 1: I am ignorant. I do not understand. It was just
Speaker 1: very difficult to watch considering how like he was really
Speaker 1: struggling with his shooting, and it wasn't Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: easy on the eyes. It was not easy on the eyes.
Speaker 1: You shot twenty eight percent a little over twenty eight percent,
Speaker 1: yea from three last night. That's tough.
Speaker 3: That's tough.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back to talk about the other side of the coin,
Speaker 1: the team with no ring and the team that nearly
Speaker 1: got close to losing to the Celtics. Uh. And that's
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Timberwolves. And we'll do that right
Speaker 1: after this. And we're back, and I mean that literally, Jabbari.
Speaker 1: We're back, okay, for the for the.
Speaker 4: For the non Lakers fans, out there. Let us have
Speaker 4: this one game to be happy about. Can we have this?
Speaker 1: We want an opening night game that's a chip And
Speaker 1: I know the bar is low, and you say that's
Speaker 1: pathetic from a team who's trying to compete with the Celtics,
Speaker 1: But look, I saw the Celtics. We're not getting close
Speaker 1: to that right now. I can't. I'm let me live
Speaker 1: in my little bubble sphere right now where that was
Speaker 1: a great up. But it was a really fantastic night.
Speaker 1: A d looked fantastic. What did he put up against Gobert?
Speaker 1: Like thirty six three blocks? Bro woke up looking for
Speaker 1: the brunckn I know, got that horn on him, that
Speaker 1: kama see hey you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like it was it? I mean I again,
Speaker 1: I was. This is my question to start off, because
Speaker 1: we did look really good. We looked different. Is the
Speaker 1: bar just so low because of Darvin Ham's tenure or
Speaker 1: is JJ by just merely being more flexible, you know
Speaker 1: with the plays and the lineups? That was that merely?
Speaker 1: It would like if because I feel like the whole
Speaker 1: time we're like I wish Darvin, like, can you call
Speaker 1: a time out? Because if you don't this run is
Speaker 1: going to you have to stop the bleeding. And he's like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna let them work it out again again, where
Speaker 1: it's like I again, tears streamed down my face for
Speaker 1: two games last night. One is because I could not
Speaker 1: believe how good the Celtics were. The second was because
Speaker 1: JJ Read called a time out when the Timberwolves were
Speaker 1: on a run that was about to just upside down
Speaker 1: our lead, and I was like, I had not seen
Speaker 1: anything like that in a few years, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is this real?
Speaker 4: He was even sharing coherent messages in the time out.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, like.
Speaker 1: People looked at the board real quick.
Speaker 4: Tom, We'll come to you for this. But I just
Speaker 4: have to say this because it's in relation to that.
Speaker 4: For two years, I was a Darvin Ham apologist. I
Speaker 4: wanted to believe I did, and you know, like I'm
Speaker 4: always good. I'm never happy, like when someone lose their gig,
Speaker 4: man like so like when he got fired. While yes
Speaker 4: it was time for them to move on, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't celebrating that. But after I saw last night's game,
Speaker 4: and that was all just to set this up. After
Speaker 4: I saw last night's game, I said, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm glad your butts out of here, because quite frankly,
Speaker 4: in one night they looked more in line and more
Speaker 4: cohesive and more bought in than they ever looked at
Speaker 4: any point last season. And you know what, maybe it's
Speaker 4: simply the right maybe it's the right fit at the
Speaker 4: right time.
Speaker 1: But honeymoon could be honeymooney. But I'm a lot more
Speaker 1: optimistic than I was saying last year. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: look and I'm not quite ready to sign my JJ
Speaker 1: I'm sorry card and send that in yet, but because
Speaker 1: I'm not not gonna lie. I was like, I was
Speaker 1: looking kind of funny at this this hiring. But this
Speaker 1: guy is such a you know, basketball freak that I
Speaker 1: do love that part about his coaching. And for me,
Speaker 1: I love seeing my fellow Black and these brother Rui
Speaker 1: Hachimura out there looking like renewed in a way that
Speaker 1: we only saw in flashes. And I just feel like
Speaker 1: everybody looked kind of they're like they're finding like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: he just needed some instruction, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we just needed to know what time it was,
Speaker 1: because I remember really saiding like I think it was
Speaker 1: like maybe media day or one of the like one
Speaker 1: of the he had a moment right in the off
Speaker 1: season where he was like, yeah, the thirty to forty
Speaker 1: games under him, we were just kind of like doing whatever,
Speaker 1: and and it looked like that. And the fact that
Speaker 1: like it was articulated, I'm like, oh, well, all it
Speaker 1: takes is a bit of structure, and now we have
Speaker 1: something that looks a lot different. Jackson Hayes looked fantastic.
Speaker 1: Dalton connect in a gang in a gang being being banged. Bang.
Speaker 1: What that was? I don't know. Again, my hopes are high,
Speaker 1: by my eyeballs are just streaming tears. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: really loved just kind of I'm I'm reserving it. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go I'm not gonna go over, but we're back. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: hang number eighteen up.
Speaker 2: I think you are right to be optimistic. Yes, I
Speaker 2: saw last night because, like you said, the togetherness of
Speaker 2: the team, the direction of the team, it felt, uh
Speaker 2: you know, felt coherent and cohesive in a way that
Speaker 2: Lakers games haven't felt in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stop the bleeding time out, like you said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fairly basic coaching stuff.
Speaker 3: No d something on the board, and guys like that
Speaker 3: fairly bag.
Speaker 1: You know. That's like, this is the bar that I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's where I felt like, am I just I have
Speaker 1: no perspective anymore because of what happened last season or
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: But so so, I think there were a couple of
Speaker 2: things that jumped out to me watching that game and
Speaker 2: after it as well, about Reddick, who's really not far
Speaker 2: at all from his playing days, Like it's really not
Speaker 2: long ago that he was on those floors competing against
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. Yeah, and there was a
Speaker 2: moment in this game where and Edwards was near him
Speaker 2: and J. J. Redick was like talking smack to him
Speaker 2: a little bit. I think it was about like like
Speaker 2: he was like it was it was late in the game,
Speaker 2: and he was like he carried and and A gets
Speaker 2: back at him and he's like, yeah, okay, yeah, but
Speaker 2: he carried.
Speaker 3: And like it was just like that.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, you don't really see coaches like smack
Speaker 2: talk the opposing teams star player who's also like one
Speaker 2: of the most prolific smack buckers in the league, a
Speaker 2: guy who like takes things personal and puts a chip
Speaker 2: on his shoulder. But then I was I was watching
Speaker 2: ants after that, and he was like he was playing
Speaker 2: a little angrier.
Speaker 1: But not necessarily better a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was a little like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna show you a little bit. And then that didn't
Speaker 2: work and he had to adjust because he started drawing
Speaker 2: doubles and then he was passing out of it, and
Speaker 2: then that was working. But like he kind of got
Speaker 2: in the head I think of one of the like
Speaker 2: true like rising star future faces, current faces of the league,
Speaker 2: and and that was really cool to see. And then
Speaker 2: after the game he had a comment about like, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're playing with like fresh balls
Speaker 2: that aren't worn in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's like, can we tell the league I'm
Speaker 1: fine with worn in basketballs. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they feel weird in your hand.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize until like I got one later
Speaker 2: in the game because it bounced to me and it
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it's just like I think that
Speaker 2: that locker room definitely could use the perspective and the
Speaker 2: the all the accumulated knowledge of somebody who was in
Speaker 2: the league very recently right understands how the modern game
Speaker 2: of basketball has played, and like you can just tell
Speaker 2: that he's been one of the smarter basketball people in
Speaker 2: most most of the teams that he's been at, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, just just by virtue of how much of
Speaker 2: a basketball freak he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: kind of like you know what Wemby said, where like
Speaker 2: kind of like I used to respect some of these people,
Speaker 2: but now I see the kind of work they put in,
Speaker 2: and I think it's bs. Yeah, Like like I can
Speaker 2: imagine him sitting on the end of the bench like
Speaker 2: watching you know, Van Gundi or whoever, like not call
Speaker 2: a timeout and be like is he doing Yeah, like
Speaker 2: fifteen plus years of that, yeah, build dub into Like Okay,
Speaker 2: if I ever was in charge, how would I do it?
Speaker 1: Would yeah? Yeah yeah, And he's been thinking about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Funny enough, when he was talking to aunt, I was
Speaker 1: yelling at the TV like.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, hey, that's very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: But but it seems like he did it in just
Speaker 2: the right way, right, it seemed to work out.
Speaker 1: He knew it was. It was just so matter of fact.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, okay, whatever you carried, and he's right,
Speaker 1: he was energy, yeah, because if he was matching that,
Speaker 1: then he would have been like, yeah, yeah, okay, but
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I logically just I'm ending the conversation.
Speaker 1: Carry carry yeah, and that's it and whatever you can say,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but anyway.
Speaker 2: I'll show you carry bro and got he got a
Speaker 2: little bit like, you know, a little bit io ball.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Jabari. What about you? I mean we've talked, we
Speaker 1: texted throughout, We've shared many thoughts. Where do where do
Speaker 1: you where you shaken out after this? And are we also?
Speaker 1: Are you also kind of looking at the Wolves a
Speaker 1: little some kind of way too, because let's not fully
Speaker 1: even to fully be here and be like we have
Speaker 1: need to look did that that was the best defense
Speaker 1: in the league? And look at us?
Speaker 4: That's exactly where I'm at with it. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: temper my you know, superants, not my exuberant but no, look,
Speaker 4: the Lakers look. The Lakers look better than I anticipated,
Speaker 4: and the and the Wolves look worse than I anticipated.
Speaker 4: But I think there's something to that. The Wolves, you know,
Speaker 4: we're missing it with the Knicks. The Wolves just made
Speaker 4: a big trade right before the season. It's going to
Speaker 4: take them some time to adjust. It did not look
Speaker 4: like they had the same connectivity, you know, defensively, and
Speaker 4: that's understandable. You know, they got new personnel in there
Speaker 4: and probably going to take some time if they're able
Speaker 4: to find that. But I'm going to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: and you know last week we were talking about proved players. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when I say this, take it with a grain of salt,
Speaker 4: but Ant is a proved player to me this season.
Speaker 4: And the reason is is because we were wondering are
Speaker 4: they going to go all in with him or is
Speaker 4: it going to be his team? Well, they have definitively
Speaker 4: said this is your team moving forward. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to be one of those people that says, like, oh,
Speaker 4: he has to deal. He made it so far last year,
Speaker 4: so he has to make What I'm looking for is
Speaker 4: more maturity, more leadership along the way, heightened level of
Speaker 4: understanding how to interact with the guys to get them
Speaker 4: to you know, to put them in the best you know,
Speaker 4: you know, the best places in your positions to win.
Speaker 1: Now, obviously coaching, you know that coaching goes into that.
Speaker 4: But in my estimation, if you're going to be the
Speaker 4: guy on a team, especially in the NBA, and it's
Speaker 4: not there's nothing to do with like today, It's always
Speaker 4: been a case you have to have that sort of influence.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I'm looking for this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a little bit of it from Ant
Speaker 2: in this game, where you know, on the bench and
Speaker 2: on the floor, you know, trying to fire the guys
Speaker 2: up a little bit, especially especially in those places where
Speaker 2: the Lakers were building and extending the lead when there
Speaker 2: were those lapses. He was the clapping his hands angrily,
Speaker 2: come on, man like type of guy. And like he
Speaker 2: definitely has the skill and the the hutspa to to
Speaker 2: be like doing that as a young player in this league,
Speaker 2: but that type of leadership is sometimesfficult for other people
Speaker 2: to take, right. Yeah, and then I've sort of got
Speaker 2: a question here largely do we think that Rudy Gobert
Speaker 2: wins another Defensive Player of the Year award in his
Speaker 2: career given his his countryman's descendants and voter fatigue and
Speaker 2: people kind of seeing how he gets exploited all the time.
Speaker 1: Right especially I mean it's like Ad just has his number, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is like dominates this dude. Yeah, what was that
Speaker 1: stat you posted like the last five games or something.
Speaker 1: He's always put up at least like a thirty piece
Speaker 1: on like.
Speaker 4: Last five games are in order, thirty eight on sixty
Speaker 4: three percent true shooting, thirty eight on sixty five percent
Speaker 4: true shooting, thirty one on sixty five, thirty three on
Speaker 4: seventy seven, and in thirty six last night on sixty
Speaker 4: one percent trew shooting. Yeah, catching things in the vacuum,
Speaker 4: you know, like folks will get in trouble sometimes. So
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say, like, oh, simply because Anthony
Speaker 4: Davis does tour him yeah's you know he's not.
Speaker 1: But I will say there is no chance in hell
Speaker 1: he's ever winning another one.
Speaker 4: And it's specifically because it's because Wemben Yama exists. It's
Speaker 4: specifically because if they give anybody a sympathy one down
Speaker 4: the line, it's gonna be Anthony Davis because he should
Speaker 4: have won one by now to begin with. But that's
Speaker 4: neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: But it's with that Academy Awards. Yeah, I mean where
Speaker 1: he might get his Revenant, he might get that, but
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Can you can you guys believe that Defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year never went to Timmy Like isn't that like
Speaker 2: a well, yeah, like absolutely nuts. But like I really
Speaker 2: do think because you look at Wemby and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's seven to five and flips his hips like a
Speaker 2: slot corner, Like.
Speaker 1: What right do? Yeah? Yeah, you can't compete with that? Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: there's it's just a new evolution.
Speaker 2: Is it's the perimeter game that exposes Gobert every time,
Speaker 2: and in Wemby you see a taller and more mobile
Speaker 2: version of that. He can still be like a wrecking
Speaker 2: ball inside exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man.
Speaker 2: And when he straight up said like after after Gobert
Speaker 2: one of this year, I'm barely paraphrasing here, he was like,
Speaker 2: congratulations to Rudy, good job, and after this it's not
Speaker 2: his turn anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's almost a direct quote.
Speaker 1: And he was right.
Speaker 3: He said, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 3: was along those lines.
Speaker 1: True. And we're gonna get to Wendy in a second,
Speaker 1: but before we do that, actually, I do want to mention, obviously,
Speaker 1: Bronny and lebron shared the court. I'm not nearly as
Speaker 1: mad as other Laker fans about this. I think I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this as like a you know, just a
Speaker 1: fan and someone who's like a newly became a parent,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is this was really cool to see.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the fact that they were able to.
Speaker 1: I think right after he came out the court, Lebron
Speaker 1: had such a like you know, trademark Lebron just like
Speaker 1: driving to the hoop and just slamming it. And I
Speaker 1: was just thinking of like, if my dad, if my
Speaker 1: like just pictures like that's my dad and we're on
Speaker 1: the same car right now. He did that, Like just
Speaker 1: the situation was blowing my mind in a way I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting. I was like, hey, kid, that's your dad
Speaker 1: and you're playing on the court with him. Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's something. It was just nice to see the whole
Speaker 1: family sort of get that moment out of it. Now,
Speaker 1: whether or not this is something that is sustained, I
Speaker 1: think is obviously a much larger question. But I don't
Speaker 1: I don't agree with a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: just directing a lot of this anger at him, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: he's a kid. This is just how the chips fell.
Speaker 1: But I do think there's still some time for him
Speaker 1: to develop, and I think he'll do that, and I
Speaker 1: think he'll become something somewhat of a contributor down the line.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a nice moment to see it was.
Speaker 2: It was super cool. I've become much less curmudgeonly as
Speaker 2: I've grown. Sure, I feel like there's so much in
Speaker 2: this screwed up world for us to be angry about, right,
Speaker 2: and basketball shouldn't be one of those things.
Speaker 3: You know, This this is a.
Speaker 1: This is a to forget the bad stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, you know, I just can't imagine working myself
Speaker 2: up to get annoyed. It's like the thinking cap. This
Speaker 2: actually sucks. Like, actually, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's cool.
Speaker 2: I think it's very cool that one of the greatest
Speaker 2: athletes of all time gets to have this moment with
Speaker 2: his son do something nobody's ever done before. And that's
Speaker 2: something that even if like when I when I was
Speaker 2: my first sports gig was writing like high school sports
Speaker 2: features for the Boston Globe, and my mom is not
Speaker 2: a sports person at all, if I started telling her
Speaker 2: a story and an involved an athlete, brain shut off. Right,
Speaker 2: this is one that passes the mom test. This is
Speaker 2: one that everybody and look at and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's neat. And we've got a whole bunch of people
Speaker 2: who were like Actually I want to dump on this teenager.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, people were just waiting for the opportunity. We
Speaker 1: know what this is. So the reality is this. It
Speaker 1: can be two things. Is it a little bit exploitative?
Speaker 4: Is it a little bit you know, are there question
Speaker 4: marks about like is it really in Bronni's best interest
Speaker 4: to continue stay at this level and not be able
Speaker 4: to develop?
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are fair questions. But you don't have to
Speaker 1: crap on the moment. It was a dope moment as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact. That's humanstery. My human side loved it.
Speaker 4: Now you will say, I will say, my degenerate, ridiculous
Speaker 4: Lakers fan side internally said, Okay, I'm glad we had
Speaker 4: this moment, but Lebron, keep the family away, go ahead
Speaker 4: and send him, go ahead and send him to South Bay.
Speaker 4: Let him continue to develop, and you can have this
Speaker 4: moment again down the road, especially if he starts he
Speaker 4: starts to pop out and show and yet like and
Speaker 4: that's completely fine. But for now, there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 4: having a great moment on opening night.
Speaker 2: I have not crunched the numbers on this, but I
Speaker 2: can't imagine there are many second round picks who got
Speaker 2: first half minutes in the first game of the season,
Speaker 2: like ever, right, no, so, but this is I understand
Speaker 2: all of that part of it, right, but.
Speaker 3: Also who cares exactly one.
Speaker 2: It's nice, good for them, it didn't matter, and the
Speaker 2: course of the game.
Speaker 1: No, And we also knew it was going to happen,
Speaker 1: like every everyone was prepared. They're like, if it makes
Speaker 1: sense and the games moving in the right direction, we
Speaker 1: will see this happen. And also didn't Anthony vers he
Speaker 1: didn't have to talk smack to him and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: didn't he says like, bro, you don't even need a
Speaker 1: shower bor you brought up.
Speaker 3: Like is it in Bronnie's best interest?
Speaker 2: Like there were some guys on the Timberwolves who were
Speaker 2: like as soon as he got in, they were like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going at him. Oh yeah, give me that
Speaker 3: sitting around.
Speaker 2: Pick welcome to the league, right yeah, And you know what,
Speaker 2: all of that is compelling and interesting to watch fast
Speaker 2: the crowd pop, the buzz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just enjoy it. Yeah, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: So wemby okay, uh kicking things off against Dallas right Thursday.
Speaker 1: So by the time you're hearing this, this game may
Speaker 1: be happening in progress. But again, just the photos, the videos,
Speaker 1: the quotes coming out of Wemby. I'm so excited for
Speaker 1: this second year for him. I like how people like
Speaker 1: when there was that one viral photo where they're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he looking He's looking like Dwight Howard
Speaker 1: with those shoulders. What's just going on? But then he
Speaker 1: also clarified, He's like, no, I'm not putting on a tunnel.
Speaker 1: Did he say? He's like, I can't do something more
Speaker 1: than five percent of my bodyweight a year. Oh so
Speaker 1: I'm going to injure myself, which I'm also like, See,
Speaker 1: this is why I like you. He knows this is
Speaker 1: we have such good, such a good mindset around this
Speaker 1: career from the beginning. It's about longevity. It's about developing correctly,
Speaker 1: knowing you have the tools and and just letting that
Speaker 1: blossom in the way that it needs to. But with
Speaker 1: Chris Paul there you know, and Castle, I'm just Tom,
Speaker 1: You're the Spurs guy. Tell me, why, tell me why
Speaker 1: I should be so so much more excited than I
Speaker 1: am because every look, like I said, Wenby's playing, I'm
Speaker 1: so excited, but give me even more, give me more fuel.
Speaker 1: For my dreams and my delusions.
Speaker 2: Well, at the beginning of last year, you know Pop
Speaker 2: experiment with Jeremy So and a point guard, right, and
Speaker 2: that was a second year power forward playing at point
Speaker 2: guard for twenty games, right, good for the long term
Speaker 2: development of Jeremy So. Bad for the immediate winning of
Speaker 2: basketball games and crunch time play, and overall floored generalliness
Speaker 2: of the San Antonio Spurs during that time period. And
Speaker 2: then now this season you've added not just Chris Paul,
Speaker 2: who is you know, one of the most technically skilled
Speaker 2: point guards to ever play the game in basketball and
Speaker 2: one of the best floor generals ever, also had Harrison Barnes.
Speaker 3: Who want to gold medal with Pop.
Speaker 2: Who listen, every single guy who comes through San Antonio
Speaker 2: in the next ten plus years is not going to
Speaker 2: be the best guy on the team, right, And he
Speaker 2: is a perfect mentor in that regard of how can
Speaker 2: you do the other things? How can you carve out
Speaker 2: a career, how can you be useful in pursuit of
Speaker 2: the ultimate goal?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So, with those sort of training wheels, this Spurs team
Speaker 2: left a lot of meat on the bone in terms
Speaker 2: of results last year. Oh, in that sports illustrated cover
Speaker 2: story on wemby. I think it was thirty five games
Speaker 2: where they had a double digit lead and they lost
Speaker 2: twenty of them, and they played a lot of forty
Speaker 2: five minute games.
Speaker 3: They last forty eight.
Speaker 2: And you can see already the Chris Paul effect where
Speaker 2: it's not just spam pick and rolls like I would
Speaker 2: in two K. Right, yeah, but the way that he
Speaker 2: gets everybody in the right spots, it's quite something to watch.
Speaker 2: It's it's really and in between timeouts, right, watch him
Speaker 2: during the breaks. If you get a chance to go
Speaker 2: to a game, right, watch what he is doing when
Speaker 2: the ball is dead.
Speaker 3: He's always in somebody's ear.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And Castle, I mean who like he looks right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he looks correct. He looks like the no brainer picked
Speaker 2: for them to make there. He looks confident. He looks
Speaker 2: like he can guard anybody one through three just needs SI.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm interested in seeing like you know, like, yeah, how
Speaker 4: CP three impacts all these guys. But there's a guy
Speaker 4: and I mentioned him on last week's show, and and
Speaker 4: and actually last summer we saw him in Summer.
Speaker 1: League City's so yeah, yeah, how far away already from
Speaker 1: seeing him in regular action up with you know, with
Speaker 1: the with the main squad.
Speaker 3: So City is a really interesting one.
Speaker 2: You said you didn't want to get in the weeds
Speaker 2: before this, This is pretty in the weeds.
Speaker 1: It was only by chance because we were there watching
Speaker 1: the Summer League and I was like, well, who is
Speaker 1: this a socle cat? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is so he played G League season before he got drafted, right,
Speaker 2: Not many nineteen year olds have like an NBA ready body.
Speaker 3: He did. And yeah, French.
Speaker 2: Player with a really interesting combination of size and athleticism
Speaker 2: and passing ability and playmaking. But still with that pro
Speaker 2: experience and with a lot of last year in the
Speaker 2: G League, his skills are still pretty raw, right, and
Speaker 2: he doesn't really have a reliable outside jumper to sort
Speaker 2: of compensate for that. So it becomes a question of
Speaker 2: where does he slot into the rotation?
Speaker 3: What position?
Speaker 2: Right, I've been really impressed by Blake Wesley in the preseason,
Speaker 2: and he's probably the third point guard behind Chris Paul
Speaker 2: and Trey Jones. Castle probably won't even like he'll probably
Speaker 2: come off the benches too, right. Yeah, so suddenly the
Speaker 2: spurs are deeper, uh than maybe they seem. But CEDI
Speaker 2: is a guy who could take a leap this year.
Speaker 2: So he's definitely a really fascinating prospect. He kind of
Speaker 2: gives me like young boristil a little bit.
Speaker 1: Mmmm that that was the comparison I was making last year.
Speaker 1: I was like you Skinny Dio.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, exactly, the one that cleared the whole VerTech machine.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting siska questions. That's great.
Speaker 4: Hey, well look I actually watched a lot of Spurs
Speaker 4: basketball year. I watched a lot of basketball last year,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to do it again this year.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be more fun this year.
Speaker 1: What do we think in is it?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do we do we turn up the heat on the
Speaker 1: expectations stove? Or yeah, we still need to we still
Speaker 1: need to be like let's let's let's let's let it
Speaker 1: cook a little bit more. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, just seeing just hearing you talk
Speaker 1: about that, seeing the wisdom and the potential that is
Speaker 1: being put together, I think I'm not that I'm saying
Speaker 1: this is something we're like, yo, this this is this
Speaker 1: some some wild is about to have. But I feel
Speaker 1: like there is going to be a markid improvement all last.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's you know, shoot for the moon, aim
Speaker 2: for the stars.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever on the moon. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: And in fairness is it's a it doesn't make any
Speaker 2: sense because the stars are way further away, but whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you landed on the moon and you were shooting.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, like you got you
Speaker 3: gotta be You.
Speaker 1: Couldn't even go one par sec. Man couldn't even get
Speaker 1: to Alpha Centauri baby the moon. Anyway, from my astronomy
Speaker 1: fans out there.
Speaker 2: They need to be aiming for the play and I
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to hit a guaranteed playoff spot,
Speaker 2: but like I'm really interested to see here. And Jabari
Speaker 2: kind of asked me this earlier about how active they're
Speaker 2: going to be on the trade market.
Speaker 3: They've been stacking chips.
Speaker 2: Wisely frugally for years now, started with the Kawhi trade,
Speaker 2: but they have acquired literally dozens of draft picks, like
Speaker 2: like it's an embarrassment they you know, they use their
Speaker 2: cap space helps scilitate to move pick up a second
Speaker 2: round pick. Brian Wright has just done a million of
Speaker 2: those trades and some bigger ones, and one bigger trade
Speaker 2: in particular that really set in motion not just where
Speaker 2: the Spurs roster is now, but where it could be.
Speaker 2: Is de Jontay Murray trade right? Traded this guy right
Speaker 2: after an all Star season peak of his value for
Speaker 2: essentially three first round picks twenty five a swap in
Speaker 2: twenty six and twenty seven. Twenty five draft is coming up.
Speaker 2: What are the Hawks doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Who could the Hawks trade Tray Young two?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And is there any way for them to get their
Speaker 2: own picks if they stink this year? If they say,
Speaker 2: you know what we want, Cooper Flag, the Spurs are like,
Speaker 2: that's our pick.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, sorry about that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's a situation that I'm eyeing with extreme interest because, like,
Speaker 2: the Hawks are basically at the bottom of a hole
Speaker 2: with a shovel, and the guy who gave them the
Speaker 2: shovel and told him to start digging is the one
Speaker 2: standing up there like with his hand out.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the only one who can really help you
Speaker 2: out of this one, right, you just got to give
Speaker 2: me Trey Young. Yeah, and it doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: Tray Young, right, But like Chris Paul, they didn't bring
Speaker 2: him in thinking this is going to be the point
Speaker 2: guard that you know starts next to Wemby when they
Speaker 2: when we went our first championship with him, right, he's more.
Speaker 1: Of a bridge, right, Yeah, absolutely, But.
Speaker 2: Now you start asking a bridge to what. And that
Speaker 2: Chris Paul contract, he took a gignormous pay cut, not
Speaker 2: just to make it work in San Antonio, so that
Speaker 2: it's a tradable number at the deadline if his stock
Speaker 2: goes way up, because he throws a ton of lobs
Speaker 2: to Victor women out right, right. So I think the
Speaker 2: Spurs have positioned themselves. They have a ridiculous war chest
Speaker 2: to work with, similar to what the Thunder we're able
Speaker 2: to assemble and you know, a few years behind on that.
Speaker 3: Trajectory is sort of where I see it.
Speaker 2: But obviously with a extraterrestrial superstar who you know.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was wild seeing Barack Obama talk about Wemby man,
Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know, and and just say, like the
Speaker 2: thing that we all think, which is that when he's
Speaker 2: on the floor, you can't look away, no, because you've
Speaker 2: just never seen anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, And that's I missed that. It's that feeling and
Speaker 1: it's coming back all right, well, let's take another break
Speaker 1: and when we come back, Tom Petrini, you are about
Speaker 1: to enter the fourth quarter rapid fire round of questioning.
Speaker 1: Your seat has become magma levels of hot. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, Tom a treaty. We've really
Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation up until this moment, but I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to change gears on you so quick,
Speaker 1: but it is time for the fourth quarter rapid fire round.
Speaker 1: Question This is the hottest, fastest, most aggressive question answer
Speaker 1: segment in all of NBA pod not vodka podcasting history.
Speaker 2: Is this where you screw up all the report we've
Speaker 2: been building you just.
Speaker 1: Maybe or maybe you mess it up by not answering
Speaker 1: questions as quickly as humanly possible and using your mind
Speaker 1: to create level headed answers. We're not here for that.
Speaker 3: I'm a little slow, but we'll we'll try.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that's good as long as you're read, because
Speaker 1: I hope you're ready. Brian Sir Jabari, Why don't you
Speaker 1: Why don't you go ahead first? You know? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: guest host first today. Yes, I believe you should go first.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go. Tom answer what's your
Speaker 1: favorite color?
Speaker 4: No, does CP three wind up on that Spurs staff
Speaker 4: as a coach down the line.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's his first staff, but it
Speaker 2: will be. He will be a head coach in this league.
Speaker 2: I think if you, if you look around at this
Speaker 2: at the NBA players who are in it now, who
Speaker 2: could most follow that JJ Reddick career path, probably skip
Speaker 2: the podcasting and go right onto somebody's bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the Popovitch coaching tree grows evermore.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, Okay, next question, We're gonna play pick up
Speaker 1: hoops of musicians and we're just looking around. These are
Speaker 1: all musicians in the court, and we just got the
Speaker 1: first pick and I took my favorite rapper, Shack Diesel. Okay,
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we had to create a role just right away
Speaker 1: that nobody else is allowed to draft anybody who has
Speaker 1: ever played professional basketball. So who are you taking next? Musicians?
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can hoop, but what I
Speaker 2: saw Hosier this year and he's like six seven, He's
Speaker 2: tall as hell, so he.
Speaker 1: Take me to chat. Yeah, that guy is six seven,
Speaker 1: that's coming from six to seven?
Speaker 2: Yes, bro, Wow, gorgeous, gorgeous, gigantic irishman.
Speaker 1: Uh six seven.
Speaker 3: I could I could work with that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I did pick Shack Diesels just so you know,
Speaker 1: so if that's your thing, and then.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean check given anybody the business in
Speaker 2: the paint, right, I'm hoping that Hosier's got like a
Speaker 2: decent outside game, not a musician.
Speaker 3: Well actually yes, loophole. Yes, Oh so baby, give me Adam, say.
Speaker 1: Don't figure out that Adam Sandlers.
Speaker 2: Give me give me Adam Sandler at point guard, throwing
Speaker 2: behind the back passes.
Speaker 1: Uh, Hawaiian shirt one shorts.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be my low effort Halloween costume this year.
Speaker 2: I feel free to steal it.
Speaker 3: Fellas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get some, get some and one shorts and literally.
Speaker 3: Anything that doesn't match it.
Speaker 2: Dress dress as ridiculous as possible. Go to the park,
Speaker 2: drop dimes.
Speaker 1: Yes, orange, you bought it like a FedEx polo. Yes,
Speaker 1: for some reason, Yes, like your name on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like can hoop a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from what I've seen, he can play. Last last week,
Speaker 1: just so you guys know, the answer was prince.
Speaker 5: And to play college ball. He played profess. Yeah, Percy
Speaker 5: Miller to master Pe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, technically he played.
Speaker 2: Pre season and Prince like had a basketball hoop on
Speaker 2: the side of his stage during constant TV to watch
Speaker 2: my yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah. And also when I saw that video of
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett talking about actually watching Prince play, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's high praise, that's hype because he's
Speaker 1: not giving it to you if you if you don't
Speaker 1: deserve right looks. And Tom, Man, we got to keep
Speaker 1: this all these details you brought up stuff man, The
Speaker 1: rules were just one man.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Jam please write this ship all right, Tom.
Speaker 4: You can see court sided any arena of your choosing
Speaker 4: which arena and what's your matchup?
Speaker 2: I think it would actually be this year Christmas. The
Speaker 2: Almo Dome game was sick when they did that this
Speaker 2: past year. But I'm a New York kid. I've seen
Speaker 2: a lot of beautiful things happen in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3: It's the mecca, man uh. And that's the Christmas Day
Speaker 3: game this year, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think it's Spurs Spurs at Knicks.
Speaker 2: After the New York Faithful chant that overrated at Wemby.
Speaker 2: I want to be sitting next to Walclyde Frasier in
Speaker 2: one of them suits, right, and I want to see
Speaker 2: Wemby chant overrated back at them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: The Garden.
Speaker 1: Those Christmas games are great because that's what you got.
Speaker 1: Spurs at Nick's Sixers in Boston, Lakers, and Golden at
Speaker 1: Golden State, although those who knows where both of those
Speaker 1: teams are going to be, and then the Nuggets at
Speaker 1: the Sun. So we'll we'll see, we shall see. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about this, Tom, If the NBA scheduled the finals
Speaker 1: location similar to how the NFL or even college basketball
Speaker 1: or even the UEFA Champions League does, where would your
Speaker 1: next three finals be taking place?
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Seattle in Vegas? One more and
Speaker 2: then yes, screw it. Alamo Dome why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, back.
Speaker 2: Very day when they did the fiftieth anniversary game, when
Speaker 2: the Alamo Dome was the Spurs home, it was like
Speaker 2: the Carrier Dome and they had a curtain.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, exactly right, Yeah, I remember they still.
Speaker 3: Had like forty k for Spurs games.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The Dome game that set the record for attendance was
Speaker 2: sixty eight thousand for a basketball game in a football stadium, right,
Speaker 2: Because they they reoriented the court and did the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Vibe was tremendous. So that's my three.
Speaker 4: The Googles is saying that you can actually get up
Speaker 4: to seventy three thousand in there, and that's wild boy.
Speaker 1: What that hell? That is kind of the atmosphere. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, that's actually that's a go to answer the thing.
Speaker 2: The thing is like, and I talked to some of
Speaker 2: the guys about this, because you're in a gym that
Speaker 2: open a lot of time, your visual references for jump
Speaker 2: shots are like closer to you, right right, it's more
Speaker 2: flat there, and so I was screwing some guys up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, I digress. Sorry, Tom, I'm I'm sorry. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You told me.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious if you if you recalled what I
Speaker 1: said the segment, and then I told you as an aside,
Speaker 1: you got it all this other stuff about perspective shift. Okay,
Speaker 1: what like.
Speaker 4: This is our actual announce this last one for you,
Speaker 4: and it comes courtesy of our Discord, all right. I
Speaker 4: put it out there on Twitter, but then you know,
Speaker 4: the Discord folk would shout out to all of them,
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Speaker 4: our boosters, all of our boosters out there. Shout out
Speaker 4: to our guy Johnny Davis, our guy Big and Scary
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Speaker 1: Let's see who else. Let's make sure I get everybody.
Speaker 4: Max r Donnie Baseball noise complaint. Shout out to all
Speaker 4: you guys. We definitely appreciate you keeping the conversation going.
Speaker 4: Let me get your predictions.
Speaker 2: M V p uh.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Jason, Jason Kidd he get it together, all right?
Speaker 4: Okay, Jason, I think I know this one defensive player
Speaker 4: of the year, most improved somehow.
Speaker 3: Also Wemby, that's unfair, Rookie of the year.
Speaker 1: Chat fir.
Speaker 3: Is this is this the being.
Speaker 1: No matter what? Yeah, all right, I'm gonna accept that
Speaker 1: as the answer.
Speaker 3: First time All Star uh wenby.
Speaker 1: Sleepers in each conference, one team teach M.
Speaker 2: I genuinely do think the Spurs are gonna sneak up
Speaker 2: on somebody. But I think the Magic are going to
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 3: In the East.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and yeah, Pallo Pallo, I think I think
Speaker 2: this is his year. The West is tough man, the
Speaker 2: West is like there's there's two bad teams like so
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna it's gonna be a bloodbath over there,
Speaker 2: and there's one team that's went in the East. But uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a fun NBA season. Thank you
Speaker 2: guys so much for.
Speaker 1: For oh yeah, final win.
Speaker 2: Celtics will play. I think it's Celtics Nuggets until somebody
Speaker 2: knocks off the Nuggets for me. Actually, no, Thunder, Thunder,
Speaker 2: Thunder get to the finals this year. Thunder get to
Speaker 2: the finals this year, get ripped apart by the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Celtics. Okay, good well, Tom, those were the right answers.
Speaker 1: You somehow get it. I don't know I did. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if you could do it, but you did it.
Speaker 1: And thank you Tom Patrini so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on OUs and Jabbari got mad boosis. Where do the
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you, support your work, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I am on Twitter at real Tom Petrini. The show
Speaker 2: is called Silver and Black Coffee Hour, and we are
Speaker 2: on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3: And it's a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We going deep on Spurs stuff and you know, I
Speaker 2: just like to have a fun time with it. Like
Speaker 2: we did a mailbag episode and one of the questions
Speaker 2: was who are all of the spurs as like Ninja
Speaker 2: Turtles if Chris Paul is a message splinter, right, I
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of negativity out there, man,
Speaker 2: and you got super duper positive. So yeah, on the
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Speaker 1: that was another flawless episode in the books for us
Speaker 1: this week. I'm not surprised the Lakers off to I
Speaker 1: think we have one of the best records in the league. So,
Speaker 1: you know, defeated undefeated. Baby. I didn't want to say that,
Speaker 1: but stop to count. That's what it says. That's what
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Speaker 1: We'll see you then. Bye bye,