1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to book a f Daily 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody once again recording from 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, Happy Wednesday, Happy hump Day, Happy 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: week and a half into twenty twenty two. You know, 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot for the past couple of days. 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm you know, talking to friends and catching up with 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: folks and just you know, making sure that in the 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: midst of this entire surge right that is happening right now, 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: where the death ticker is back and we are once again, 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, uncertain and unstable in how we are dealing 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: with this pandemic, checking them with friends to see, you know, 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: how people are doing, how spirits are holding up, you know, 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: and also to know whether or not folks are testing positive, 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: if they're having symptoms, you know, all of those things. 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: And I was on the fun with one of my 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: friends and she was just like, you know, Danielle, what's 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: happening in New York right now? Like I'm seeing other 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: friends on Instagram and like going out and hanging out 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: and doing the most, and like, yet the numbers don't 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: relate to that. And I said, you know, I no 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: longer can concern myself with what other people are doing. 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that we have a communicable disease 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: right a community spread right now, would have you think 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: otherwise we should be thinking about other people. But for me, 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I have reached a part a point 26 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: in this pandemic. And somebody tweeted and said, who knows 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: if we're at the middle, the beginning, the end. No 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: one has any idea. But what I've recognized over the 29 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: past two years is that all you can control is yourself. 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Is yourself, your immediate surroundings, who you decide to come 31 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: into contact with, where you decide to go, and how 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: you engage with the world around you. Given the numbers 33 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: that we are seeing, the New York Times reported this 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: week that COVID hospitalizations have surpassed twenty twenty two, have 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: surpassed what we had seen in twenty twenty. That the 36 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: rate of positivity those people testing positive right has surpassed 37 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: one point three million Americans in one day. You don't 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: need to rewind as if you did not hear that, right, 39 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: let me say it again. We have surpassed broken records 40 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: that no one wants to break. One point three million 41 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: positive COVID nineteen cases in one day in these United States. 42 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Now what I find funny and not funny, ha ha, 43 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: but funny. Let me bring it to your attention so 44 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: that you too can feel the same rage that I do. 45 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: If the other country, right had the rate, the positivity rate, 46 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: the political climate, the lack of vaccinations. Right, our vaccinations 47 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: have stunted at sixty two point six. I look at 48 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: it every single day, and during the entire you know 49 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: surge that we're in right now, we hear doctors repetitively 50 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: on cable news, on you know, writing op eds saying 51 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: those that are vaccinated, those that are fully vaccinated, meaning 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: two shots and boosted, so a total of three shots. Right. 53 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: We're not seeing inside of hospitals, we're not seeing severe symptoms, 54 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: but those that are unvaccinated still continue to pose a 55 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: threat not just to the communities that they exist in, 56 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: but also to our health system, to our hospital system, 57 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: which everyone is saying is on the fucking brink, including 58 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: doctors and nurse that are on the front lines. I 59 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: tweet it the other day. It still boggles the mind, 60 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: right that we have people willingly, willingly choosing to drink 61 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: their own fucking urine. Instead of taking a vaccine that 62 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: is free, they are willing to pay pay good money 63 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: for fake vaccination cards for a card that is free 64 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: with your vaccination. I don't know what you do with 65 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: these people. But the other thing that pisses me off 66 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: and continues to piss me off, as I know it 67 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: does many of you. If you are refusing to listen 68 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: to healthcare professionals, to listen to epidemiologists, to listen to 69 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: the people right who have studied, who have done reports, 70 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: who are analyzing and investigating this crisis, if you're refusing 71 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: to listen to them because you think that this is 72 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: all a hoax, that you think that it's just mass hysteria, 73 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: then why the fuck are you going to the hospital? 74 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: You know, I maybe I'm an evil person because in 75 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: my world, right, like, if I were in charge of everything, 76 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: do you know what I would be doing, I would 77 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: be as these people are rolling up into the ar, 78 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm pulling up their chart. I'm asking you to show 79 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: me your vaccination cards. I'm at show me your original card, 80 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: show me a photo, right, because we can't proceed with 81 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: what it is that we're doing unless we know what 82 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: kind of medications you have taken what kind of vaccines 83 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: you have had? Now, if then the person that is 84 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: sitting in the ar gasping, fever, coughing, dizzy, you know, migraine, 85 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: all of these things, and I look and they test positive, 86 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: and then on top of which they are not vaccinated. 87 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: You go to the back of the fucking line. Right, 88 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to send you home with a bunch of 89 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: K ninety five masks and say go with fucking God. Right. 90 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: I will say to you, yes, you, here's the mask. 91 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: You should wear it. You are symptomatic. But frankly, at 92 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: this stage in time, we can do nothing for you. 93 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: We have people that need cancer screenings and heart transplants, 94 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: and I need to assist this, people with broken limbs 95 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and what have you. And since you have decided right 96 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: that you are above science, right, you are above reality, 97 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: then this is now above me. Go with God. Right. 98 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: That is the kind of world that I wish that 99 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: we lived in right now. And I would love for 100 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: these same people to turn around and cry foul that 101 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: they're not being treated fairly. Well, I'm confused about why 102 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: we should be treating you with kindness and fairness, right, 103 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: because these doctors, these healthcare professionals take an oath right, 104 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: much in the same way that our fucking politicians have 105 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: taken an oath to protect you, to represent your voice, 106 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: and they aren't doing it. So, if I'm a medical 107 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: professional and I know that I am now having to 108 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: make a decision because of the amount the volume of 109 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: people showing up in our hospital system, if I'm now 110 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: having to pick and choose who I have to give 111 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: care to because I can't be in all places at 112 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: one time, then guess what unvaccinated, stupid person you get 113 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: to go to the back of the fucking line. Why 114 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: why are we rushing to save these people that have 115 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: told us that they know better. Why not instead of 116 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: going into the hospital, why not DM Joe Rogan? Right, 117 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: why not contact Ran Paul's office and ask them what 118 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you should do now that you are experiencing COVID like 119 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: symptoms for this hoax? Right? Don't go to the medical 120 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: professionals who you refuse to listen to for years now, 121 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Because it's not months, it's twenty two fucking months. It's 122 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: almost two goddamn years. We've been having the same conversation 123 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: over and over again, which is why so many of 124 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: us feel fucking crazy. So I'm like, why go to 125 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: the hospital, Why call your doctor? What the fuck do 126 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: they know? Clearly you know? More so, why don't you 127 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: stay home? Drink your bleach, drink drink your urine, make 128 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: a fucking cocktail, shake it up, pour it over ice. 129 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, but don't waste bed space, 130 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: don't waste the energy and the capacity of our medical 131 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: workers with your bullshit. If it is a hoax, then 132 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: stay home and deal with your imaginary symptoms. That's what 133 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I want to roll out to these people. I want 134 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: to close hospitals to them, right in the same way 135 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: that in poorer neighborhoods. Right, they'll turn you a fucking 136 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: away from the emergency room. Oh you don't have this insurance, 137 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: you don't have this, you don't have that. Well, we're 138 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: not going to give you care. If we have no 139 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: problem dictating who gets coverage based on their economic an 140 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: insurance status, then based on your fucking intelligence level, you 141 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: should get the same medical treatment that is on par 142 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: with that you are unvaccinated, because that is your fucking choice. 143 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Then it should be the hospital's choice and the medical 144 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: professional's choice not to tend to your needs. They will 145 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: get to you in due time. And I feel, you know, 146 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: and I know that people will say, oh, Danielle, they 147 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: can't do that. They took an oath, blah blah blah blah. Yes, 148 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I understand that. I'm saying that if I ran the 149 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: world right now, if I was the one that it 150 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: was in charge, you motherfuckers would not be being seen. 151 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: You just wouldn't because you're undeserving. Switching gears to another lot. 152 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: You know, there are so many things in this country 153 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: that are just so glaringly wrong right now, one of 154 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: which is the FBI's recent decision, recent decision to create 155 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: a department that is specifically going to be looking at 156 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: what they are coining extreme domestic terrorism. That's what they 157 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: have named it. And the FBI sat and presided over 158 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: a what I can only think is a committee hearing 159 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: where they laid out that there is what we all 160 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: fucking know, a rise in domestic extremism, right, and they 161 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: listed out what this definition is, what this new definition is, right, 162 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: that they have never put power behind actually looking for 163 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: these cells. Right. Here's the thing that is fucking getting 164 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: me about this. How is it that you are going 165 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: to be able to suss out a threat that you 166 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: don't name. This isn't just domestic terrorism, this isn't just extremism. 167 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: This is actually what America has been founded on, which 168 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: is white domestic terrorism that is racially motivated, you know. 169 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: And I asked on Twitter, why is it so fucking 170 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: difficult for these quote unquote intelligence agencies to be able 171 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: to name the fucking truth? And do you know why? 172 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Because there are probably way too many that are within 173 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: the walls of this agency, that are within the walls 174 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: at the FBI and the CIA, that subscribe to white 175 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: domestic extremism. Right, they just dress it up in a suit, right, 176 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: they just smooth out the language. But we are essentially 177 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: doing what we do with the police after police shootings. 178 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm asking you to investigate yourself. You can't even name 179 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: what the causes. But what's funny is that when the 180 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: report came out twelve somebody years ago, right about the 181 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: rise of white domestic terrorism, about the rise right of 182 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: white supremacist terror groups, it was shelved and instead they 183 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: decided to do what investigate black extremism. See when it 184 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: is other people, when the people have a different melanin 185 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: a different pigment, level, then they're totally okay with naming 186 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: it black extremism. But when it is white people that 187 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: are causing the rage, the damage, the mobs, the threats, 188 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: the death, the destruction. Oh, we're gonna use a blanket term, 189 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: and you will see right in the coming years how 190 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: those that are protest against atrocities of injustice and the 191 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: unjust criminal system and what have you. You're going to 192 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: see how they're going to contort these laws to throw 193 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: the book at those people and then call it equal. Right, Oh, 194 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: we created this and that's why this person is getting 195 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: seventy five years. But again, the people that invaded the 196 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Capitol building, they were just maga tourists. I'm tired of lying. 197 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm tired of being lied to and being told that 198 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: this isn't about race, being told that there are steps 199 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: that are being taken to protect us when they are not. 200 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: All of it is a fucking show. This is theater 201 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: right now. Because if you actually wanted to get to 202 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: the core problem that is happening here, then you would 203 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: need look no further then white supremacy. You would need 204 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: look no further then these quote unquote aggrieved white citizens 205 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: and what happens when white people feel aggrieved, right, they 206 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: tend to, I don't know, blow up churches, blow up schools, 207 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: blow up buildings, murder people, lynch them in the streets, 208 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: beat them to death, suffocate them. Tell me the Barragian 209 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: list of other groups, other communities of people that have 210 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: the rap sheet that White America does, because that's what 211 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: it is. White America has a rap sheet as long 212 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: as the history of this fucking country. But we don't 213 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: call it what it is. So we're never going to 214 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: do any proper investigation. We're never going to hold these 215 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: people accountable. We're just going to continue to allow white 216 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: people to make excuses for other white people about bad behavior. 217 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: And it's not bad behavior, because let me not say that, 218 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: because stringing people up, suffocating them to death, shooting them 219 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: while they're on a jog or sitting in their car 220 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: or playing on a playground or walking home, right, that's 221 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: not bad behavior. It's sociopathic. Right. But we don't have 222 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: the same deep analysis and talk about the pathology right 223 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: of white rage. No, we don't. We take each and 224 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: every incident as if it is singular, Each and every 225 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: incident is a person is a lone wolf. It is 226 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: about the individual, not about the collective. And yet maybe 227 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: they'll probably don't even still exist in history books. But 228 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, there was a time when you would see 229 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: picture after picture in that little thin chapter about the 230 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: civil rights movement, you would see the collection of the 231 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: white community dressed up looking up at a dangling ravage, beaten, 232 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: shredded black body. This is not individual behavior, it's group think. 233 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: But you see, you can't ask the community that has 234 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: been in charge of pathologizing everyone else right with their reports, 235 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: their Monahan report over here, right? Oh, what's wrong with 236 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: Native Americans over here? Without any real interrogation of themselves 237 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: because they don't see themselves as a collection. And that's 238 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: the fucking problem because all of the machinations of our 239 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: society are run by white people. So again, I say, 240 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I call out the mainstream media all the time. I 241 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: think the mainstream media is gonna put up headlines right 242 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: that are about half of their fucking daytime lineup, more 243 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: than half, No, because then they would have to ask 244 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: questions that they don't want the answers to. Instead, what 245 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: they do is that they create podcasts or docuseries to 246 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: get inside of their minds because you know, that we 247 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: need to feel empathy. Something must have gone wrong, But 248 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: we don't think about how systemic racism and community violence 249 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: and police violence right at targeted black communities and other 250 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: communities of color, have led to skyrocketing crime rates rates. Right. No, 251 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: we don't look at those people as individuals. They are 252 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: a product of their environment. But we don't look at 253 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: who the architects of those environments are, do we No, 254 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: we put that blame on those communities. Right, Well, why 255 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: don't you clean up your parks, Why don't you pick 256 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: up your trash? Because we don't have sanitation workers that 257 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: are rolling out in the same way that they do 258 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: in the white neighborhoods. We don't have public park maintenance, right, 259 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: that is planting fresh flowers every spring, cleaning off sidewalks. 260 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: We don't have a bevy of growth stores, right, and 261 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: banks and institutions. You saw that with the freeze that 262 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: happened in Texas. Right, Remember that the Texas fucking grid 263 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: that they Republicans decided not to invest in and to 264 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: begin to defund in the early aughts. Right, you saw 265 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: exactly what communities were lit back up immediately. It were 266 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: those that were wealthy and white because that's where all 267 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: of the banks and the institutions and the companies are 268 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: because you never created equity across the fucking train tracks. 269 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: So then you can say to yourself and justifiably so, well, 270 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: we got to get business back running. Fuck the communities. 271 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: It's a vicious cycle. It's a vicious cycle that these 272 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: people refuse to name. So how am I to feel 273 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: like you are actually going to do your jobs? You're not. 274 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: It's all window dressing. You know. People are really pissed 275 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: off right at a handful of civil rights leaders in 276 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta who yesterday decided not to show up for the 277 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: president and the vice president who touchdown in Atlanta to 278 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: talk now right a year fucking later about the importance 279 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: of voting rights, and these leaders they're getting on cable 280 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: news and they're saying, we don't need another fucking speech. 281 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: We don't need you to come to Atlanta to tell 282 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: us what it is that we already know. How about 283 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: you stay your ass in Washington, DC and deal with 284 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: the obstruction as motherfucker's in your own party. How about 285 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: you sit down with your teams of lawyers and figure 286 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: out how to push and pull Joe Manchin and Kursen 287 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: cinema in the direction that they need to go in 288 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: order to save our democracy. How about you save the 289 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: side show and your fucking niceties in your speeches for 290 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: people that give a fuck. Because the people in Georgia 291 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: been on the ground fighting against the Brian Kemp's of 292 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: the world. They've come face to face multiple times over 293 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: which standing in line for seven eight nine hours. They 294 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: don't need you to come down to tell them what 295 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: the fuck they already know and then say, oh, we're 296 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: gonna come back. Voter suppression right, and the push towards 297 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: authoritarianism with what registering more people to vote just so 298 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp can take them up and throw them in 299 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: the fucking trash. Give me a break, you know, I 300 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: continue to say over and over again, I don't need 301 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: a comforter in chief. I need a fucking warrior. I 302 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: need somebody that is going to go to the match. 303 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: I need somebody that recognizes that the time for niceties 304 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: is done. I need somebody that wants to put out 305 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: a full fucking campaign hit on Joe Mansion. Kursten Sima, 306 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: the way that the GOP just dropped a million dollars 307 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: in West Virginia to do in order to keep the filibuster. 308 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell was on the floor of the Senate reading 309 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema's op ed, saying, this is why we can't 310 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: remove the filibuster. When Mitch McConnell is reading your op 311 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: ed on the Senate floor and congratulating you for it, bitch, 312 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: you've gone too far. These people are not our friends, 313 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: and I'm tired of treating them as such. I'm tired 314 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: of the media globbing on and following around Joe Mansion 315 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: like he's one of the fucking Beatles or Michael Jackson 316 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: like I'm tired of it. Stop making this menace to 317 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: society into a rock star. He is not what I 318 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: would want. Instead, instead of the press scuttling behind Joe Mansion, 319 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: watching his every move and giving him all the spotlight, 320 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: all the airtime in the world, is that, I want 321 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: a fucking Heckler circle following that motherfucker around so he 322 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: is uncomfortable in every place that he goes, the same 323 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: way that black and brown people and other marginalized people 324 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: will be once their voting rights are snatched away. I 325 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: want him to feel as uncomfortable and as scared and 326 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: as threatened as the rest of us do. Don't invite 327 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: him over for a beer in a conversation. Oh, he's 328 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: having dinner at the White House and anointing him with 329 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: all of this prestige. He loves it. He's gobbling it up. 330 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: So does Cinema. She wants to go fundraise last year 331 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: in fucking Europe. What do Europeans have to do with 332 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: her state of Arizona. Nothing. These people are self serving 333 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: and they don't give a fuck. And I'm so goddamn 334 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: tired of other Democrats, including the President and the Vice President, 335 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: referring to these people as their friends. If these are 336 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: your friends, then I hate to see who your enemies are. 337 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: It's time for a change. It's time for a pivot. 338 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: It's time to go for the jugular. And we friends 339 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: are running out of time. We have but a handful 340 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: of months. And the way that things are looking right 341 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: now is Kevin McCarthy is bragging to bright bart about 342 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: who he's going to deny committee seats to, who he's 343 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: going to deny access to their constituency and to democracy to. 344 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: He is telling you what they are planning, and we're 345 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: all sitting around. I wonder what Republicans are going to 346 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: be up to. They are telling you it's time that 347 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: we stop acting right in response to their fuckery, including 348 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: Mansion in cinema, and it's time that we devise a 349 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: plan of action to take them out, folks. Coming up 350 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: next is my conversation with our in house doctor Jonathan 351 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: Metzel to tell us the latest as it pertains to 352 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen omicron, flew rona delta cron, and every other 353 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: fucking thing that is floating around in our air. Folks. 354 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: You know that when it is Wednesday, we have our 355 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: trustee in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, the author of 356 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: Dying of Whiteness, with us on woke a f as 357 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: we continue to traverse the COVID climate and try and 358 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: make sense of what the CDC can't help us make 359 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: sense of. Jonathan, last week, I want to start off 360 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: with this. Last week we were mentioning flu rona delta cron, 361 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: these mutations, adaptations, hybrids of the current COVID nineteen omicron 362 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: virus that we that is ravaging the world, ravaging this country. 363 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: It was said that twenty five people or there were 364 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: twenty five cases in Cyprus an island in Greece with 365 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: this delta cron. Now experts are saying that there must 366 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: have been a lab make a mix up because there 367 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: is no such thing as this like variant mix Can 368 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: you help us make sense or of what you have 369 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: heard with regard to this and is this not the case? 370 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: So something we don't need to be paying attention to 371 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: or be alarmed by. Well, I think the main thing 372 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: for people to worry about is what's called covie pooh. 373 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: Somebody is mating COVID with a poodle and this is 374 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: totally unethical. Poodles have done quite enough already, and it's 375 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: just the yuppie market has gotten out of control so crazy. Yeah, 376 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: So first of all, now, I you know, I think 377 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: it's funny because like you and I were tweeting about 378 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: this issue. Now I think it totally makes sense. Right, 379 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: we have a virus that's mutating every five seconds, and 380 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: and it keeps getting worse in different ways, and all 381 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: these other kinds of things are happening, and so it's 382 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: just the sense the anxiety about what's the next mutation 383 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: is incredibly high. And we also are having a spike 384 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: in flu cases because people are back out in the world, 385 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: and because the flu vaccine doesn't work this year because 386 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: they picked the wrong stream, which happens quite often. It 387 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal before, I mean, but now it's 388 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: a big deal. And so there's all this kind of 389 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: mashup happening. Now what happens in Cyprus sounds like a 390 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: lab er, honestly, and so I think there was a 391 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: mix up. But I guess the bigger story is they 392 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: are going to be these kind of weird mutations happening 393 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: all the time. And it's kind of like the mutations 394 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: we know about and actually get Greek letters are like 395 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: one one millionth of the number of variations that are 396 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: out there. And so the virus is just going to 397 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: keep playing mosh pit with itself and with our bodies, 398 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: and that's what happens. And so maybe, as I said 399 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: on Twitter in response to your tweet, it will end 400 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: up mating with Brad Pitt or string cheese or something 401 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: like that and creating some kind of mashup um. But 402 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: I say that the bigger issue is, at least so far, 403 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: the issues are the same, which is that you want 404 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: to be vaccinated. You want to I mean, the importance 405 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: of masks has really never been higher, like get get 406 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: an ninety five mask. You know, my mom even now, 407 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: or me harassing her for a year, we'll wear an 408 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: N ninety five mask. But really there's there's no there's 409 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: no version of this that has that has gotten through 410 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: the N ninety five mask yet. UM. And so I 411 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: think that the take home is the same. I mean, 412 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: I think there are issues with the pandemic right now, 413 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: and certainly there will be more variants coming down the pike. UM, 414 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: But I think the basic calculus is the same. And 415 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: when we hear these stories of different variants, certainly it's 416 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: important to pay attention to UM. I mean that there 417 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: is a variant out there that is more contagious than 418 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: the big Oh, and I don't even know how that happens, 419 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: Like it gets you through your phone when you text 420 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: message or you know, something like that. So we're going 421 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: to hear that. But but I think it's a very 422 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: high bar for a virus to outcompete the current the 423 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: current viruses. So really when we're going to be at 424 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: the most risk is when this wave goes down and 425 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: there's lower infection ratio and we're back to normal and 426 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: things like that. We know about three to four, because 427 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: then then there's not tons of virus in the air, 428 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: and that's when we're more risk because then these more 429 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: contagious variants, won't you know, they have kind of an 430 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: open playing field in front of them. So so there's 431 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: an article that is in The Atlantic, uh that is 432 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: that is entitled amicron is forcing Us to rethink mild 433 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: COVID And it's written by Sarah Zang, And I thought 434 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: that it was really interesting because you know, in all 435 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: of this conversation that we are having and now I 436 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: and you know, forgive me, because I want to say 437 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I also want to talk to you about um the 438 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: path to being in em right, the path Tom Deems City. 439 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: But we are not in a large mainstream new space 440 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: talking about long COVID and the you know, the effects 441 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: of it. It's just like we keep saying that omicron 442 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: is violent, is mild? Doctor Fauci is not paying attention 443 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: to infection rates anymore because they're just wildly out of 444 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: control and is looking at hospitalizations to basically I'm assuming 445 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: to infer you know, where we are headed, right, But 446 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, if six hundred thousand Americans this 447 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: is our number six hundred thousand Americans are infected every 448 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: day since Omicron touched down in the US. Every day, 449 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: the numbers have been rising out of control. I mean 450 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: New York right now, the infection rate over the last 451 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: two weeks is over a million. Right, So talk to 452 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: me about our understanding of MILD and this and the 453 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: connection to long COVID and how you think this is 454 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: potentially going to impact health insurance, health insurance moving forward, 455 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: a paid sickly right with people having to leave work, 456 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: and our understanding of MILD. Well, first of all, Sarah 457 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Zang is doing amazing work, right, I mean, and so 458 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: I just want to say first of all that I 459 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: think she's one of the better sources of information out there, 460 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: and I'm so glad she wrote that piece, a very 461 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: important piece. I was reading about Finland the other day 462 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: and they're classifying COVID as the number one chronic illness 463 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: going forward, and they're building infrastructure for long term care 464 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: based on long COVID. So Scandinavia, places with more functioning 465 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: healthcare systems than we have, are really changing their healthcare 466 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: system based on the assumption that so many people who 467 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: are getting COVID are going to have long term effects. 468 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's really the main issue right now 469 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: is if this was a mild illness that didn't cross 470 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: the blood brain barrier, heck, you know, I'll be out 471 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: there licking the subway poll right now. I really would. Um. 472 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: But um, but okay, maybe not. That was a funny 473 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: I think in my mouth a little bit. I mean, 474 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, but I think the issue is this thing 475 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: crosses the blood brain barrier, right, and it also crosses 476 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: the pair of the pericardium, right, so it gets in 477 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: your this version the big O doesn't get in your lungs, 478 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: which is a big deal, but it still gets in 479 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: your heart, and it still gets in your brain. And 480 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: so think of all the other virus as we know 481 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: from viruses that that do that. Right herpies you can 482 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: get herpies and stuphalitis and can get in your inner ear, 483 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: which is a big issue, and you will have dizziness 484 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. If it gets into 485 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: your pericardial space, you could have um. You know, your 486 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: won't work for the for the rest of your life. 487 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: And so in a way, the issue is um. I mean, 488 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: it's really the caveat to this question of what mild 489 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: means I mean, certainly people aren't dying. Although as you 490 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: probably saw, we set the hospitalization record for the entire 491 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: pandemic yesterday in the United States, So there is a 492 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: lot of hospitalization happening. But it really is what are 493 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: the implications? Wait, is this higher than twenty twenty? Look 494 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: at look at New York Times yesterday? Were we shattered 495 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: the hospitalization restored for the for the company, for the country. 496 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Because there are lots of hospitalizations happening in places that 497 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: weren't having them having them before. And so um, we're 498 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: we're at hospital max or we're very close to it 499 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: right now across the country, just because so many people 500 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: are infected. But the other issue is you're exactly right 501 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: that when when a virus like this, um would a 502 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: virus like this? And you know, let's be honest, right, 503 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: it's this is a hard calculus, right because there are 504 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: people like me and you who are basically we're like 505 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: radio free Europe at this point, like we're living in 506 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: a bunker, you know, like we don't have COVID right now, 507 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's crazy, John, I'll just interrupt you for 508 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: a second because it's crazy because you know, I was 509 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: passing my neighbor yesterday and you know, we're chatting. We 510 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: all have our masks on. We're back to wearing masks 511 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: like in our you know, in our building. It's a small, 512 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: small apartment building with just a handful of apartments, but 513 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking masks on and she's just like, Danielle, 514 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: you still haven't caught COVID yet, have you? And I said, no, 515 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: I haven't. And I'm like becoming an anomaly. I'm like, 516 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: like everyone that I know has has had covid um 517 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: and and it's crazy, Like the more time goes on 518 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: and the fact that I haven't caught it makes me scared. Well, 519 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a. And by the way, 520 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: I'll be speaking to you guys next week from Tennessee. 521 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm flying right Tennessee Tuesday, um, and so I'll be 522 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: I'll be living amongst the virus particles starting next week, 523 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: and it'll be different. It'll be interesting again to compare 524 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: Tennessee to New York. But I will say, on one hand, 525 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, for my friends who have had it in another, okay, 526 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: I am On one hand, if you're in our position, 527 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: you have a little bit of como like COVID missing 528 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: out syndrome or something like that, because it's like, oh, man, 529 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: you must have all these great antibodies. On the other hand, 530 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure you do, and I do have plenty of 531 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: friends who three months after having gotten the infection can't 532 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: walk more than can't walk up the stairs, and have 533 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: dizziness and all these kind of things. And so it's 534 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of a crapshoot. But if you get long COVID, 535 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: you know you're dealing with a virus that's in your 536 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: body for as long as you are the inhabitant of 537 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: your body pretty much, and so and so it's really 538 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the issue is what are the long 539 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: term care effects going to be. We're going to deal 540 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: with this seasonally, it's going to come in waves. But 541 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: I do think that, and this is just my feeling, 542 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: we have to look to Scandinavia right now because what 543 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: they're doing is even though they're doing all the same 544 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: things we're doing, the issue is we need to first 545 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: of all, build infrastructure, right, we need to build better care, 546 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: better treatment centers, better you know, rehab, all these kind 547 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: of things. So number one way need to change that. 548 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: I just think that's going to be so important. Airflow 549 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: is going to be important. And also, if you remember 550 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: anything from my ramblings this morning, it's if you haven't 551 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: had COVID, do your best to not get it, and 552 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: for the next couple of months if you can. It's 553 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: going to be hard to avoid for a lot of people. 554 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: But if you can avoid getting code for the next 555 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: couple of months, the picture is going to be actually 556 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: quite a bit better a couple of months from now, 557 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: both because of the infection rates and also because all 558 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: these new treatments are going to be coming up online 559 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: for symptomatic treatment. But again, the long COVID question is 560 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: going to be the money question I think going forward. 561 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: So a couple of within Sarah Zang's Peace in the Atlantic, 562 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: she links to three former Biden administration officials who, through 563 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: the JAMA Network or JAMA Network, I'm not quite sure 564 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: how to pronounce it, put together what they believe a 565 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: national strategy for COVID nineteen should be, and says testing, surveillance, 566 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: and mitigation strategies. And they go through right listing like 567 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: how testing should happen, how surveillance should happen, how mitigation 568 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: strategies should work. That we need to stop looking at 569 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: we need to stop reacting to each variant in the moment, 570 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: right and start now to look out and strategize right 571 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: for the fact that this is going to be a 572 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: part of our lives, much in the same way that 573 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: you just said that that is happening in Finland, happening 574 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: in Scandinavia. And so but when I read through these, Jonathan, 575 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that I was just like, Oh, 576 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: this is not happening in the It States, Like they 577 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: they are not going to put together this national strategy. 578 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: There is way too much red tape. There is way 579 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: too much this this uh false sense of liberty, right um. 580 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: And so I wonder when you were did did you 581 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: get a chance to see their recommendations? And if we 582 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: can't even get the CDC to tell us things in 583 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: real time, how how are we going to create a 584 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: national strategy that is going to be embraced. We're not. 585 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, you know, it's not gonna happen. I mean, 586 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: and and really what I think about when I think 587 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: about this are the unintended consequences, right. In other words, 588 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: it's all about like, oh, mask mandates and liberty and 589 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: blah blah blah um. And I was looking at our 590 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: policy at Vanderbilt. You actually have to wear pants, for example, 591 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: to work. There's a man, there's a mandate, Like we 592 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: have all kinds of mandates you know too, for public 593 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: safety and public decency and things like that. So but 594 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever. But I think the thing is, I think, 595 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: as you were suggesting before, think about how much more 596 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: expensive it's going to be to get old, for example, 597 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: Think about how much more expensive it's going to be 598 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: to stay alive when you're seventy five. Think about how 599 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: much more expensive health insurance is going to be. And 600 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: so I think the financial implications of this are considerable. 601 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: And I just think we're going it's something we're going 602 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: to be dealing with, but it's going to create all 603 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: kinds of inequities that are ones we can't even imagine 604 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I just you know, I got to 605 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: tell you that when I look at these measures of 606 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: sensical options for us to have to roll out, to 607 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: think like we've been in this for two years and 608 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: yet we have no cohesive strategy Like we thought that 609 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: with the election of Biden and Harrison then and having 610 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: adults at the wheel that we were going to have, 611 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: you know, a better plan, and I don't see that, 612 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: and I see this being so marred now just shit 613 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: on by politics and politicians and misinformation and lies, and 614 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: the fact that the CDC has no idea how to 615 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: roll out messaging that when I look at this national plan, 616 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: which other countries because they are smaller or because like 617 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: China they don't care about personal liberty can roll out, 618 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is an opportunity. I believe that there 619 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: are opportunities and obstacles right that like every obstacle presents 620 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: us with a better way that we can do things. 621 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: What do you think should be the major learnings that 622 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: this administration and our healthcare system as a whole is 623 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: taking from this experience, because you know, and now I 624 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: want to move in also to the you know, to 625 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: the endemic piece, because this isn't going anywhere well you know, 626 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: I actually it's it's so hard because the answer right 627 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 1: now is a national unified strategy. I don't I don't 628 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: think that there. And the reason I want to push 629 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: back on that a little bit is because, of course 630 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: the virus mutates, right, but if it had just been 631 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: a delta wave, which of course it wasn't and it's 632 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: not up to us as up to the virus. But 633 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: if it had just been a delta wave, we actually 634 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: had the perfect strategy. Like the vaccines were working for 635 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: delta very clearly. They were lowering every kind of indicator. 636 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: So it made sense to mandate the vaccine for example, 637 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: during delta, it made sense to do all the kind 638 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: of things. And so it's kind of like we just 639 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: our system. It's it's not so much Biden failed. I 640 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: don't agree with that narrative. I think it's also that 641 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: the virus mutates much faster than human governance, and certainly 642 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: American governance can adapt. And so if we were still 643 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: in the middle of the delta wave, which again we're not, 644 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: we actually had the perfect strategy, right, vaccines, We're gonna 645 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: just obliterate the pandemic, right, And so we created all 646 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: these policies with tremendous political capital. And then the virus 647 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: changed and the ground rules changed, and we and our 648 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: system all of a sudden, And so that the fact 649 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: that like then people tried to change the ground rules 650 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: in response to the virus and all of a sudden, 651 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: it's a conspiracy. But no, we're actually what we're doing 652 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: is we're responding to the virus mutating. And so part 653 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: of the story is the ground rules keep changing and 654 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: how fluid or flexible is our political system And I 655 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I think that's the issue, 656 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: is like our our political system is polarized and entrenched. 657 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: It's actually not geared toward any kind of solution, let 658 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: alone one you need to make in response to a 659 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: changing external threat. And I think the CDC, you know, 660 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: the gold standard for public health information for you know, 661 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: half a century, is an example of that. It's it's 662 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: been incredibly politicized over the last four years and before that. 663 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: And so part of the story is we have to 664 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: change the narrative in response to the virus and we 665 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: and we can't do it. You know, we can't do it. 666 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's really the frustration is the minute 667 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: the ground will start changing all of a sudden, everybody's like, 668 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: well you saw this, and then how you do this 669 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: and blah blah bla blah. So that's the issue. I mean, 670 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: I think we should just admit the virus is in 671 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: control and we're going to create like a fluid system, 672 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're not the APEX predator. Right now. Our 673 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: system is responsive to changes. And that's why early detection 674 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: in Scandinavia makes sense because then they can change their 675 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: system in response to the virus. But we we we 676 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: can't do it, like we can't we can't do it. 677 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: And so I don't know, like in Tennessee the health 678 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: department is stopped taking any kind of COVID data. You 679 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: actually don't know how many hospitalizations are deaths there are. 680 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: And so we're flying by the seat of our ignorance 681 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: right now in a lot of places. And I think 682 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: I think that's the issue, is the changes you would 683 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: need to make a reflective of a functioning political system. 684 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to go on a die tribe here, 685 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: but it really is kind of how I feel that 686 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: in a way, making those changes make sense if you're 687 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: part of a functioning political system that actually can adapt 688 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: to those changes. So I know that's not the question 689 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: you ask me, but it is. It is my sense 690 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: of what needs to happen is we need a better 691 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: functioning political system that can that can adapt more quickly. Yeah, 692 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: And I would say, you know, as we as we 693 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: close out this morning, that this superpower that was America 694 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: is obviously on the decline, right anyone with eyes and 695 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: ears it can see that that's happening. And I think 696 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: that what will emerge in its place, not even in 697 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: our political system, but how other countries will emerge will 698 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: be about their nimbleness, their ability to actually keep their 699 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: citizens safe, their ability to adapt with the times. And 700 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: I think that in a lot of ways, America is 701 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: a dinosaur and we, you know, we want to hold 702 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: tight to law and policies and the way that things 703 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: have always been, and we are very slow to adapt. 704 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: We are very behind the rest of the world. And 705 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: I think that right now you're seeing that more than ever. 706 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: And it's one of those where cross road moments in 707 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: so many ways that America is having right now, and 708 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't see us choosing the right path. Yeah, I 709 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: mean health matters to productivity, and other countries are figuring 710 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: out that better better than we are right now. I 711 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: agree with you, Jonathan, as always, thank you for making 712 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: the time to join us and walk us through the 713 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: maze that is COVID nineteen. We'll be excited to talk 714 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: to you next week, but are praying for your safety 715 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: while you return to the toxicity of Tennessee. Take everybody 716 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: talk to you. That is it for me today. Folks 717 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: on wok f as always power to the people and 718 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: to all the people. Power, Get woke and stay woke 719 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: as fuck.