1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Breaking right now. The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation confirms the 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: signing a fifteen year old Elizabeth Thomas and Tach Cummings. 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Tb I says Cummins use cash to purchase food items, 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: but did not buy anything else of significance. Elizabeth Thomas 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: was brand new to the Coloca School in Murray County. 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: She started as a freshman this year, entering the public 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: school system for the very first time. She's fifteen. He's fifty. 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace to the Austins. 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: The Cummins was a teacher. A student reported seeing Cummins 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: kissing Elizabeth in his classroom in late January. Police arrested 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Elizabeth's mom, Kimberly Thomas, last year. They charged her with 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: five counts of child abuse and neglect. Cummins told two 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: students he's a father figure to Elizabeth. He stole my 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: daughter from me. As sheriff's deputies race to Mitchell International 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Airport in the search for Elizabeth Thomas, a schoolgirl abducted 16 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: by her pervy teacher, Tad Cummins. Bob Shell now in 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: brand new court filings, send a strong message from Elizabeth's 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: father claiming the pervy teach Tad Cummins threatened Elizabeth she 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: did not want to go with him, and more more 20 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: facts coming out in the search for Elizabeth Thomas. I 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories, thank you for being 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: with us. Anthony Thomas, Elizabeth Thomas's father, has gone to 23 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: court to depose witnesses who claim they have knowledge about 24 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Tad cummins inappropriate relationship with his daughter. This as Milwaukee 25 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: deputies race to the International airport on a tip that 26 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Elizabeth was en route on a flight with Tad Cummins. 27 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: An early morning tip came from a passenger on a 28 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: Delta flight from Minneapolis who reported that Tad Cummins and 29 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: the girl kidnapped girl Elizabeth Thomas, were on the plane. 30 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Officers raised to the airport to find out the latest 31 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: on Deputies and t s A agents were on the case. 32 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Media showed up. According to a passenger from Louisville, Cassandra Miller, 33 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: as we all know, fifteen year old Elizabeth Thomas has 34 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: been taken by her teacher, Tad Cummins. I'll get back 35 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: to you on what's going on at that airport and 36 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: what went down. But Alan Duc is with us. Let's 37 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: talk about what the father is saying this morning, Alan, 38 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: what do you know about these court documents. It's a 39 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: real bombshell what he's claiming. What this does is it 40 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: sets the stage for Jason watt Lay, the lawyer that 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: we've been talking to for the father, to do some questioning. 42 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Repeatedly when we've talked to him, he's made a comments 43 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: and well, they're now not talking to me. There they've 44 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: shut down. I can't talk to these witnesses to find out. 45 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: So this is his way of getting a subpoena for 46 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: witnesses to force them to disclose details that might help 47 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: find Elizabeth Thomas. What I'm learning in this filing is incredible, 48 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: including the fact that catch this, Alan, Now this is 49 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: after after the school is put on alert that pervy 50 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: teacher Tad Cummings is kissing a student on the lips 51 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: in class. Commins was a chaperone, possibly the only chaperone 52 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: on a student field trip that Thomas was on in 53 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: late January. Remember Peoplessing incident was January twenty three. I 54 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: saw the patriots, but I didn't know that Elizabeth is 55 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: they Tim was on the trip. Not only that he 56 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: went repeatedly to the girls home without the parents knowledge, 57 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: and pressured her to go out on dates with him, 58 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: threatening quote repercussions at school if the girl didn't go 59 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: along with him. That Elizabeth told her friends, even her siblings, 60 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: she felt overwhelmed and quote over her head with the teacher, 61 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that she was afraid of him, but was afraid of 62 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: what would happen if she said no. That he would 63 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: repeatedly show up where she worked at Chick fil A, 64 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: sometimes against the girl's wishes, and many times she asked 65 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: coworkers to lie when he would pull in and say 66 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: she wasn't there. That he told Elizabeth that her future 67 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: college and work career was ruined because of the kissing 68 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: incident and tried to make her feel guilty about basically 69 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: his suspension from the school. That you know her, the 70 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: whole feature was down the crapper. Another student found Elizabeth 71 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: sleeping alone on a hospital bed in Cummins classroom early 72 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: early one morning before classes began, indicating they had been 73 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: spending time alone before the school was open to students. 74 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: That repeatedly she told the friend who dropped her off 75 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: at that Showne's that morning that she did not want 76 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: to go and that she didn't even want to spend 77 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: the whole day with him, and she told the friends 78 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: she was meeting someone other than Tad. Comings I mean, 79 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: it goes on and on. I'm just touching. I'm just 80 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: hitting the tip of the iceberg. Allen, What do you think? 81 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: What are we going to find out next? That's what 82 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, and that's what this is all about. As 83 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I said, some of these people are hesitant now to 84 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: talk to Elizabeth's father's attorney. In fact, here's a quote 85 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: from the statement that the family put out. Perhaps the 86 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: most concerning element has been the hesitancy of some persons 87 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: to fully cooperate in sharing information that they know. What 88 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: we heard Jason tell us was that the father of 89 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: this student refused to allow him to talk to her. 90 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. But we keep every day another 91 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: shoe drops, and we still don't know where Tad Cummins 92 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: has taken this child. You know, I've got the documents 93 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: right here in my hand. First of all, I want 94 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: to thank Simply Safe, our sponsor today in our continued 95 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: efforts to find Elizabeth Thomas. We're not giving up on her. 96 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Other media may, other investigators may, but we are not 97 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: giving up the hunt for Elizabeth Thomas. Her life has 98 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: already been forever altered. 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Okay, she wouldn't 122 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: even divulge to her friend who was really meeting her, 123 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: but she did say she was having second thoughts and 124 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: that she wanted to go home. She made up a 125 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: name for that person, Thomas used the name Thomas. That 126 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: Tad Cummins, beknownst to the dad, had been showing up 127 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: over and over at his home, threatening the little girl 128 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: if she didn't go with him, she would flunk out 129 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: of his class at school. I mean, this girl had 130 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: never even been in public school before. She'd been homeschooled 131 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: her whole life. And then a teacher tells her that, heck, y'all, 132 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: I'll go out to lunch with you if you're gonna 133 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: throw me out of school if I don't. She didn't 134 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: even know any better. She told her sister and friends 135 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: she was scared of Tad Cummins and felt that she 136 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: couldn't say no to him. You know, this makes me sick, 137 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: And can you believe that according to this document, Tad 138 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Commins and they were on his Facebook. I saw the 139 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: pictures of him with all these other young girls taking 140 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: them on a quote field trip, and Elizabeth was on 141 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: the trip. And this is after he's been caught kissing 142 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: her on the mouth at school. What was the school thinking? 143 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: It defies my understanding. And I don't know. And I 144 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: hope that the fact that his wife, Jill Cummins, worked 145 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: at the Board of Education as an executive assistant. I 146 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: hope that had nothing to do with it. Well, let 147 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: me tell you something. My twins today went on their 148 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: very first away from school out of the city field trip. Okay, 149 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: and I'm about had a fit. Let me tell you something. 150 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: You know where mommy was this morning at six am 151 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: up in that school parking lot, smelling the breath of 152 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: the school bus driver. Oh yes, I did. I got 153 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: right up interface and said, oh, thank you so much, 154 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: smelling extra friendly? Why this Nancy? And then um, then 155 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: I walked all over that school bus. I mean it 156 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: was a charter bus, and because there's so many they 157 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't fitness school bus. It was all the third grade 158 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: stuff together, and um looked at the bathroom, looked at 159 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: every seat, walked up and down, you know, like I 160 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: was just going, oh hey, I was looking everywhere to 161 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: see if there were any adults in there that I 162 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: didn't know, checked out all the chaperonnes. Of course, if 163 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: parents had been invited out have been right up in there, Allen, 164 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: But sadly it was just the teachers. I checked them 165 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: all out, looked at them, saw who all was going, 166 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: where my children were sitting, and then I sadly and 167 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: irritably went and sat in my car until they left. 168 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: I started to follow them, but Lucy and John David 169 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: are onto me. I mean, I know they look out 170 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: the back window and see me. You know. So I 171 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: didn't do it, but I wanted to. Alan. But can 172 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: you imagine a teacher has kissed your girl in the 173 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: mouth and then they have him chaperoning a field trip 174 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: with her? Uh uh m? No, Alan in Oh, where 175 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: was the disconnect on this? Something disconnected someplace? Don't don't 176 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: throw your California phraseology on me. Disconnect that's just outright stupid. Okay, 177 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there. You've lived in l A 178 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: long enough, it's rapped out. I didn't go to some 179 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: middle Georgia School. I went to Carrollton, Georgia, Carrolton High School. 180 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: We learned that at West Georgia College. I learned those 181 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: big words disconnect. So it's just flat out s t 182 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: U P. I d to send this child on a 183 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: trip with him? Why is he taking anybody anywhere after 184 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: he's been caught kissing a girl in the mouth. If 185 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I were all the other two parents, I'd be mad 186 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: to not just Elizabeth's parents. Disconnect. That's the only word, 187 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: and that's that's that's the word that I learned my my, 188 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: my grammar teacher taught me that one putting perfume on 189 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: the pig. So tell me what is the latest that 190 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: law enforcement is saying. Check the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, 191 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: and they've not said anything about this case, at least 192 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: on social media or really publicly now for more than 193 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: a week. The last thing that we've heard from them 194 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: was the confirmed sighting in Oklahoma City that dates back 195 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: to March, and then the false alarm in Nebraska a 196 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: week ago, and then the other false alarm this week. 197 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: This brings up this question, what do you do if 198 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: you think you see Tad and Elizabeth? What do you do. 199 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Don't try to call the t B. I forget about it. Now, 200 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: hold on to the moment. I want to go back 201 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: to that woman who tried her best. The passenger aboard 202 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: a Delta flight from Indian Minneapolis who reported Cummins and 203 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: Thomas were on the plane. I mean, how could they 204 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: Let's just say they were They were not on the plane. 205 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: Let me just say that right now. They were not 206 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: on the plane. But thank you lady who called it 207 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: in for trying. But let's just say they try to 208 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: take a flight they have to. I don't know. I mean, 209 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if T. S A would catch it 210 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: or not. If they came in with his driver's license 211 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and his I D. If you have a minor, you 212 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: don't have to have I D for the Meyer. I 213 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: think it would have done all kinds of red flags. 214 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that they cannot get spotted and get 215 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: on a commercial flight in the USA. I don't think 216 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: that can happen. Well, they're living somewhere, and they're eating somewhere, 217 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: and nobody has spotted them since that signing in the 218 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: walmart in Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, and that was just two 219 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: days after they vanished. The other Nebraska McDonald's signing, which 220 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: looks so much like them. I don't think that was 221 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: not them. See I thought it did. The guy had 222 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: the sport chopped beard, and his belly was a little 223 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: bit bigger, believe it or not than tads. Well you're 224 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: paying a lot more to attention to his belly than 225 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: I am. I thought it looked like them with a 226 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: change of hair. But when you look, when you really look, 227 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: you see that it's not them. So that was a 228 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: false siding. This delta signing was a false sighting. So 229 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: are we just gonna lay down and accept that they're 230 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: gone and there's nothing we can do about it now. 231 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I think that the sidings, the even the false sightings 232 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: are a good sign because it means people are aware 233 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: all over the country and they have a general idea. 234 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: But please, people, look at the pictures that are posted 235 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: on crime line dot com. Look at those and get 236 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: a really get that in your head, because they could 237 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: be down the street, They could be in your backyard 238 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: in the woods camping. You may see them. Who knows. 239 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: I think that they're they're probably changing their appearance even more. Well, 240 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: another thing is I'm sure he's intimidating her in line 241 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: to her. You know that, because he's already lied to 242 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: everybody else, why not? Why would he stop now? I 243 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: think he's probably gone ahead and shaved his face completely. 244 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: There's some reason that he chose to color his goatee 245 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to cutting it off, and I wonder what 246 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: that is. Must have been one of those CIA tricks 247 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: he learned, Vanity, Vanity. That name is Tad Cummins. Cummins, white, male, 248 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: six ft tall, about two hundred pounds, brown hair, and 249 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: I think he more than two hunds. He does. He 250 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: looks like he's two ft. Believed to be armed with 251 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: two handguns tipline D T B I find or nine 252 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: one one. And if they're going to be sided, it's 253 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: going to base somewhere like Walmart, getting provisions. He loves Walmart, 254 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: a superstore, summer like Walmart. As the days pass, this 255 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: is going to be more and more under the radar, 256 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: But I for one, have not forgotten it. That is 257 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: the important thing. The reason the lawyers and the prosecutor 258 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: and the police talk to us and let us know 259 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: things is because we need information to keep you interested 260 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: in this case, because out of sight, out of mind, 261 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep following this. You may get tired of it, 262 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: but I don't think people are. We don't need to 263 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: let this guy go under the radar and be forgotten. 264 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: You know. I hope I never see him again, except 265 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: when he's handcuffed and looked. But for her, I mean, 266 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: she's got a chance that a real life. Not so 267 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: much for him, but it's amazing to me he can 268 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: just turn his back on his wife, his children, his grandchildren, 269 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: everything for what. We're not giving up on Elizabeth. Yes, 270 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: there are other cases that have bubbled up to the 271 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: surface since Elizabeth was kidnapped by her school teacher, but 272 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: we're not giving up as we also cover those cases. 273 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Please don't give up on finding Elizabeth Thomas and bringing 274 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: her home again. Simply say thank you so much for 275 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: making this podcast possible and being our partner and finding 276 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Thomas and so many others we are searching for, 277 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: finding missing people, solving unsolved Thomas sides, highlighting crimes and 278 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: social injustice. That's what Crime Stories is all about. I 279 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: want to thank you for being with us. Alan is 280 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: always Thank you. Friend. Nancy Grace Crime Stories signing off, 281 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,