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Speaker 2: For a date.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather be silently ghosted or blatantly canceled on?

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Speaker 4: Yikes? And at least you would know if you're blatantly

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but wondering I can make up my own excuse

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: When you're ghosted, there's still that like glimmer of hope

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Speaker 3: that maybe they got the wrong bar, or maybe they got.

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Speaker 4: A rested their phone broke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they fell down a man hole and they

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Speaker 3: can't get out. Did you can invent a story for

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Speaker 3: yourself there that makes you feel good? But today one

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Speaker 3: of our listeners, Jillian, thought she had a second date

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Speaker 3: locked down until she got one very strange last minute

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Speaker 3: needs our help.

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Speaker 2: Jillian, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, thank you.

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Speaker 4: My interest is so Pete. Don't want to know what

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Speaker 4: that text message says that.

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Speaker 2: Someone was confused.

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Speaker 3: So let's start at the beginning of your story. How

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Speaker 3: did you meet this guy? What's his name?

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Speaker 1: His names Zach?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Where did you and Zach meet?

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Speaker 1: So we met at a bar?

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Speaker 4: Oh in real life?

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Speaker 1: In real life? Yeah? I know, right, so it was

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Speaker 1: like last Friday night, I have been planning on staying in,

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Speaker 4: That's what it always happens, right, I know, right, which

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Speaker 4: means that you weren't looking your best. You're probably kind

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Speaker 4: of a mess. But yes, okay, no, I don't mean

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Speaker 4: that in a mean way. I was looking kid, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then I had this like feeling after I got

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Speaker 1: I actually don't want to have a cozy night and

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Speaker 3: I always have a feeling to gore feeling to go

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Speaker 4: You're bringing the good energy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so where do you go?

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Speaker 1: So I called my girlfriend. We go to a bar

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Speaker 1: don't usually make the first move, like ever, but I

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Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say, but I was kind

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Speaker 2: I did it.

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Speaker 1: Right there. They were talking about the movie Wicked.

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Speaker 4: Oh, and I had just.

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Speaker 1: Seen it and their opinions were like totally wrong. So

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Speaker 1: but also just like to flirt with him, and.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right off the back, don't argue about a man

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Speaker 1: I just know that there's two guys arguing over wicked together.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I already know why he's not calling

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Speaker 1: But no, she was, come on, yeah, if you like

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we ended up talking for a while. We

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Speaker 1: well she was kind of done. She was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we had plans for a second date. We were

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Speaker 1: going to go to this bar that has ski ball

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. So you guys even talked about where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of it. And so then shere's the crazy part.

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Speaker 1: That morning that we're supposed to go out, I get

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Speaker 1: a text from him that says, I'm onto you, dates

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I texted him back and I was like,

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Speaker 4: Does he think that you're in a relationship or something.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing that I think, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: We should have asked, are you currently with somebody?

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Speaker 1: No? No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, d yeah, what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 4: And that's so strange too, because you don't have any

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Speaker 4: like it's not like you can ask his friends. You

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Speaker 4: don't know anybody that he knows, you know, right exactly

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Speaker 4: if you google search your name, is there like a

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he knows my last name

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Speaker 2: She's like, my last name is Dahmer. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I swear I paid to have all those articles to

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Speaker 3: lead it. Y.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My best guess is that maybe one of his

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Speaker 1: you know, like dark bar. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what that's happened to my friend group before?

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Speaker 2: She was some other girl bro. Never mind, it could be.

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Speaker 4: That like a girl from the dating apps. Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: was just so bold, I know, and you don't follow

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Speaker 4: what I've been accused of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so frustrating. Like I've texted him a

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Speaker 1: few times being like, hey, I don't even need to

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Speaker 4: Well need to know for future dates because what if

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Speaker 1: You're.

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Speaker 4: Purposely using him for something.

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Speaker 3: Just tell us at least mass texting him makes you

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Speaker 4: Will we ask him what the hell that text message meant?

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Speaker 3: Jeff, Let really pile on and tell him everything is

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Speaker 4: Life, his opinions that wicked suck.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good, we.

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Speaker 3: Will beat him into a pulp and second date update

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Speaker 3: coming up right after.

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Speaker 2: This second date update.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe we never caught the nursery rhyme connection

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Speaker 3: because our listener, Jillian I met a guy named Zacha

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Speaker 2: Zack and Jill.

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Speaker 4: You mean Jack and Jill, But it sounds it sounds

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Speaker 4: pretty close. Okay, someone someone flugged priests school in this

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to rhyme, Jill.

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Speaker 3: Sorry for trying to draw a connection. I thought it

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Speaker 3: was a cute story. They met at a bar. They

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Speaker 4: How the nursery rhyme goes?

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Speaker 3: Jill said, great, to another date, and Zach canceled last second.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, and that's.

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Speaker 2: Where we are today. Like a total jerk.

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Speaker 3: Zach reached out to Jillian the day of their second

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Speaker 2: Date canceled.

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Speaker 4: So Zach is fetching a.

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Speaker 2: Pail of water right now.

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Speaker 4: No, he's rolling down a hill. I think I thought

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Speaker 2: I got the nursery right now.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing is confusing, especially to Jillian, because there

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Speaker 4: It's so accusatory. I mean, the thing is is that

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Speaker 4: although Jeff you're calling him a jerk, he thinks She's

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Speaker 4: a jerk, is what it sounds like. Yeah, but we

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Speaker 4: don't know why exactly.

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Speaker 1: I'm on to you.

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Speaker 2: We'll raise an eyebrow to anybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, walk up to me and say that right now,

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Speaker 4: I'd be like, what you feel guilty? Yeah, no matter what. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: if he answers it like I'm onto you Hello? You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably don't want to end up with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready?

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Speaker 2: So that was a question just to myself.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready when he's talking to jeff Okay.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey is this Zach?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Interesting? Hey, Zach, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Uh what is this?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 3: Sorry for that she was so flirty with that question.

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Speaker 3: This is there a radio show. We're We're called Brook

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Speaker 3: and Jeffrey in the Morning. This is a segment called

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Speaker 3: second Date Update. Okay, you could help us because we

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Speaker 3: have a listener who you met up with the other night.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Jillian.

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Speaker 4: You guys met at a bar.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, are you joking?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, she keeps texting me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, I can hear your confused. Can I tell

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Speaker 3: you what we know from what Gillian told us? Because

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Speaker 3: she said, you guys met at the bar the other night,

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Speaker 3: you hit it off, ended up separating from your friend

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Speaker 3: arranged a second meetup. Had it all planned out until

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Speaker 3: the day of she got this cryptic text from you

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Speaker 3: saying I'm on to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Okay, so she'd told.

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Speaker 1: You a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean, honestly, she has no idea what

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Speaker 5: Well, I can explain that.

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Speaker 3: That would be great because she just does not understand

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Speaker 3: what happened, if she did something wrong. We're just trying

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Speaker 2: We asked, are you in the middle of some awful dealings?

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Speaker 3: And she's like, I Am not in the midst of evil,

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Speaker 3: So you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So she has no idea what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So the day of the next date, I went

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Speaker 5: back to the bar that we had met at and

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Speaker 5: this bartender recognizes me and he says, hey, are you

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Speaker 5: hanging out with Jillian again?

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Speaker 1: Anytime soon?

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Speaker 4: Oh? They know her at the bar, like she's a

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Speaker 5: Okay, well that's what I was thinking. So I say,

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Speaker 5: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: How do you know her?

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Speaker 5: And he says that she calls the bar like every night,

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Speaker 4: Oh. Really, this world just opened up? Are you serious?

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Speaker 4: She calls it ahead of time just to see if

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not just that place. Apparently she does that all

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Speaker 4: How do you know all over town?

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's what the bartender said.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: So are you upset that you were the cute guy

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Speaker 3: Or the fact that she calls the bar every single

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Speaker 4: There, Like she doesn't go to the bar every night.

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Speaker 3: Though, unless there's cute guys radio enough, that's why she

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Speaker 4: Out for that's a compliment.

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Speaker 5: She said that to you.

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Speaker 3: She mentioned that the night that she was going out

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Speaker 3: Turns out that something was a phone call to the

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Speaker 2: But we didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: Why does that make you so upset?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm just another cute guy at a bar to her,

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Speaker 4: So it feels like you were deceived a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's nice to be the cute guy, but now it's

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Speaker 4: Just feel like it's weird.

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Speaker 1: Someone pretends they just met you randomly when they did

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. I didn't feel special at all and pretty

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Speaker 4: Now you should feel, specially you're on a radio show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he calls us every day, though she does,

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Speaker 3: Actually she specifically reached out so that we could get

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Speaker 2: That should mean something, right.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 5: I mean, now you have your reason.

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Speaker 2: It does soe like she's like always on the other line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my, this is the only one actually making

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Speaker 2: Jillian, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, and I have quite a bit to say.

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Speaker 4: In response, not I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I'm not sorry. What did make you wrong?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I do not call them every night,

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys there, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And but but I would not mind you guys when

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Speaker 3: Oh, she did mention Zach.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, are you still there, Zach.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what to believe anymore. I mean, she's

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Speaker 5: saying one thing to you guys, the bytender says a

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Speaker 1: Kind of shady, dude.

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Speaker 4: It would have been such a good pickup line to

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Speaker 1: Yea that I would Yeah, you're right, Maybe I'll just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I asked for hot guys and they delivered you.

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Speaker 4: So tell us how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Not as romantic to a guy's ear as you probably think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's give a romance at a bar, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: More clearly, someone who is looking for romance is Zach,

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Speaker 3: and he feels like he's not special, that he's just

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely not accurate. I can see why he

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Speaker 3: And look, we do appreciate you coming forward, Jillian and

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Speaker 4: Which Alexis is definitely picking up. I think every bar

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Speaker 1: That you should feel special. The bartender said, there were

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Speaker 4: Look at that stand out. You're a standout, qutie, Zach.

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Speaker 5: It's the strange to pretend like it wasn't all set up.

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Speaker 3: Well, now that all the information is out there, can

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Speaker 4: I mean, if anything, Zach, it shows what a on

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Speaker 2: And if you guys start dating, she'll call the bar

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Speaker 4: That's a good point since I met you.

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Speaker 5: Oh all right, I mean I'm willing to try again.

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Speaker 3: Okay, really, wow, that was so heartfelt, Zach, I really

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Speaker 2: I know, I wonder if this is like setting her

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Speaker 3: Up now, because Zach, if you actually agree to meet

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, again, it just feels.

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Speaker 2: Like very like you're brushing us off in the room.

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Speaker 4: I don't expect reactions men anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yah, Zach, be honest. Doesn't sound like you're actually gonna

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Speaker 3: I mean, look now they're both ghosting each other for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two ghosts make a right, it's not it. I

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Speaker 4: Tale is brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I swear, sometimes you can just tell when somebody isn't

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Speaker 4: I wanted him to be into it, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But there was something in his voice. I was like, yeah, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was still the hottest guy in the bar.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's why he doesn't carry as options.

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Speaker 3: But if someone's not into it, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: Fine?

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: So many questions for the bartender's telling her type? Does

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Speaker 2: What does she get out of it?

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Speaker 4: She could Kip More's a guy. It was a guide bar.

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Speaker 2: It still is he making money?

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Speaker 4: He just gets somebody else to come to the bar.

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Speaker 4: Bars are always looking for more women.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all the bartenders out there, make sure you text

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Speaker 2: Go, even if it's nine am. Yeah, she'll be means

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 3: If you need help with your dating life, email the show.

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