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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt. Mike Clay soon after the

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Speaker 2: draft put out his projections for each team's stats for

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's kind of like well known.

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Speaker 2: For it, right, and he does this from a fantasy

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Speaker 2: football perspective. That's what he does largely. Uh So I

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Speaker 2: wanted to take a look here today he is put

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Speaker 2: together what his projections are for the top five rookies

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Speaker 3: Okay, interject super quick cause I mentioned I was on

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Speaker 3: that Dynasty podcast today. My co host mentioned we were

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Speaker 3: talking about Tush push if it, if it got if

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Speaker 3: it became illegal. Mike Clay was already put out he

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Speaker 3: found that crazy, like one rule change would be that

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Speaker 2: Guess it would, you know, So it's right. Yeah, at

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position, he's top five. He has Cam Ward

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Speaker 3: Would you take that if you're the Titans. They don't

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Speaker 3: mention the interceptions on there. They don't, but I yes,

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Speaker 2: The second quarterback on here is Tyler Shuck. He has

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Speaker 2: him with thirteen starts, three and twenty yards, thirteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I bet he throws more touchdowns at thirteen.

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Speaker 3: That he's pretty Goodah So, I mean it's not the great,

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart has him making nine starts this year.

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Speaker 3: I'n'm leaning that way too. I mean, as difficult as

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Speaker 3: Back to our conversation with Bob being a distant fourth

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Speaker 3: Things went bad. I means you ever got in there

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Speaker 3: they followed him did much better. Yeah. In a typical

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Speaker 3: like in our league, I don't think any rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: I mean he's a bi week or something.

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Speaker 2: I think he's looking at opportunity.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think their projections would be vastly different

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Speaker 3: Who rookie of the year quarterback? Yeah, I mean Baker

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Speaker 2: Omari and Hampton is second. Nine hundred and sixty one yards,

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Speaker 3: Wow, I would have went with Harvey nine.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Johnson gets to the two hundred and

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Speaker 3: Going to get a bigger time share than Johnson in

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be happy with that if I was the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: It's still better than what their lead back did last year.

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Speaker 2: Harvey's not gonna I highly doubt Harvey plays any third downs.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he can pass block at all.

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Speaker 3: This isn't what Clayed doing here, but I do think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad player, No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm doing a fantasy draft today, Johnson's my

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Speaker 3: Subject to change, but I mean, nause he's a problem.

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Speaker 3: Including Hampton there not Okay, Yeah, I guess probably people

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Speaker 2: Oh you're talking Johnson Judkins, right right?

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Speaker 3: No, I think Judkins is clear path to He's like Harvey.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: He's going a score of all the players that we're

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Speaker 2: are we paying this guy ten million dollars?

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Speaker 3: I know he fumbled something last year, but he didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's here's a little stat for you. The clay

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Speaker 2: four running backs selecting him rounds two and three. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of running backs have reached eight hundred rushing

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Speaker 3: That's day two picks a fifth rounders, that's.

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Speaker 2: When you're projecting three of those guys to go over

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Speaker 3: I could see it again. I would take it if

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Speaker 3: Like That's one thing I like about Henderson is I

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Speaker 3: I've always been a Stevenson fan. I think he's very talented. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Who how many those be through the air? Welcome according

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Speaker 2: Right, none of the receivers, None of the.

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Speaker 2: Hunter might explode though tackles, oh wow. Malachi Starks leads

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Speaker 3: The safety. I would guess it's like Sweastionnger.

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Speaker 2: Nick Martin with San Francisco fifty eight.

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Speaker 3: Browns thirty third pick, right, yeah, I mean there's no competition.

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Speaker 2: Sacks Okay, Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 3: Six would you be happy about that as a giant well,

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Speaker 3: I'll take the under on Williams.

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Speaker 2: Tied for fourth place and the finishing off this uh

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think vote both.

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Speaker 2: They're like a seventeen sec team every se I mean,

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Speaker 3: neither one is very big. Like, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Somebody's gotta be right.

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Speaker 3: But it won't be the pair of them.

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Speaker 2: The last one on here tied with Pierce. But tell

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Speaker 2: me you're not going to laugh about this one. Shamar

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Speaker 2: Stewart with the Bengals with five, that would be more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's currently not like even participating.

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Speaker 3: And what if Hendrickson's not out there to eat up

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Speaker 2: I would take the under on that as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, five, that's that's a half second more than he

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the rookie sack record is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it largely what what was Reggie

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Speaker 2: It was a big number, right, right right, and he's

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Speaker 3: We're splitting hairs two interceptions versus one. But I might

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking here. Who else would fall into that category?

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Speaker 2: I mean you always favor the safeties over there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's gets more of a bump there. But Wats has been.

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Speaker 3: A guy he takes the ball away. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If he's the starting free safety for the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Amy Worry.

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Speaker 3: I would think he plays right away.

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Speaker 2: Trey Amos would be. Guys that absolutely that you look

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much he plays on default skills.

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Speaker 3: Are great, Yeah, I fifty to fifty stuff. He's going

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Speaker 3: don't know how you do that from perspective the yardage

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Speaker 2: If that's the case in Malachi or uh. If Malachi

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they always be clear path.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus is put together their wide receiver rankings

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty five season, and I wanted to go

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Speaker 2: through these. They've tiered these much like they did the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and so we've got six tiers of the top.

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Speaker 3: Thirty two thirty two. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Tier six guys are Deebo, Samuel Courtland, Sutton, Jamison Williams. Hmmm,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I could put Debo in that list.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could see I've already I've

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Speaker 2: already looked at this one. I haven't, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to talk out of both sides of my mouth

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Speaker 2: on this one. George Pickens should be on this list somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Oh he's not. That's I put him over all three

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Speaker 3: without a doubt, easily. Yeah, I'm a Williams fan, but

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Speaker 3: there's he's a.

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Speaker 2: Good player, but he's also missed a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Time because of stuff. I think the ebo's declining rapidly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sutton's a good He's in great race now.

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Speaker 3: I think he'd be a great two. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tier five.

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Speaker 3: Surprise Pickens doesn't make Top thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Zay Flowers okay, Marvin Harrison Junior, that might be a bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure if his last name

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Speaker 3: was Williamson would be on there.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba okay, Rashid Rice, Josh Downs.

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Speaker 3: They're all about the same age. I can kind of

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Speaker 3: Downs fan. I don't know this production will match his

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Speaker 3: talents considering his situation, I can't really fight any of

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Speaker 2: I might I might have put Pickens ahead of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at least with them.

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Speaker 2: At the very least. He's in that group, right right, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The next group this is a bigger one, Tier four.

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith solid, Chris Godwin.

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Speaker 3: Really really good year last year too. I like Godwin's game.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, Yes, last year wasn't kind to him even pre.

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. But if it was a year going

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Speaker 3: R's a problem, right? Uh?

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Speaker 2: DJ Moore at twenty.

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Speaker 3: Last year wasn't kind of him either.

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Speaker 2: Jaylem Wattle at twenty one, that's fine. Ladd mconkie at

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Speaker 2: twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Glad he's in that neighborhood. Maybe I think he'll even

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf at twenty three, okay, Chris Olave at twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty good tier. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would have put Pickens in

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Speaker 2: People arguing that Metcalf is better than Pickens. He is

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Speaker 3: I would have him in a tier above like they did.

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Speaker 3: Well if we've had Pickens in the flowers here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tier three it's a big one as well. Mike

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Speaker 3: Yes, situation hasn't been wonderful.

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Speaker 3: T Higgins versus DK metcalf is a conversation. It's conversations, right.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen Brian Thomas, he k would do pretty well, Jamar

441
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Speaker 3: Chasing Sure what Yes, Thomas belongs in that neighborhood to

442
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 3: those rookies are strong. Sixteen is DeVante Adams. He still

443
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Speaker 3: has still Yeah, yeah, I got no problem with that.

444
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: Now he could drop off of that, no question. At

445
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: some point he's still gonna go up. Yeah, he's thirty two,

446
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 3: he's only going down. Yeah, his game age is slow though.

447
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Speaker 2: Tier two not as many guys here. A Monross Ain't

448
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Speaker 2: Brown at four, production's crazy. Puka Nakua at five.

449
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: His production's crazy too. He's got to stay on the

450
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Speaker 3: field too.

451
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb at six out of Lamb.

452
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Speaker 3: Ahead of those two if you're just ranking them straight out,

453
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Speaker 3: but they're in the same tier.

454
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: Nico Collins at seven's that's where he belongs. Tyreek Kill

455
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Speaker 2: at eight.

456
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Speaker 3: Ooh, he had a rough year.

457
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Speaker 2: Man, he hit a rough year, but there were some

458
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Speaker 2: injury factors.

459
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Speaker 3: There, there was a hand. Yeah. I don't know where i'd

460
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: rank him. Would you put him in? He's still Tier

461
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Speaker 3: two I mean a year ago, he's Tier one.

462
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Speaker 2: He still scares the hell out of you.

463
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Speaker 3: Yes, even if he's slightly slower explosive, he's still the

464
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Speaker 3: most explosive guy in the field. And I'll leave my two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the tier one guys, there's only three. Their number

466
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Speaker 2: one guy is AJ Brown.

467
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Speaker 3: He would be three for me, but his situation really

468
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: hurts his numbers. I think Jefferson and Chase are like

469
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Speaker 3: all time grades.

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Speaker 2: They have Jefferson at two, Chase at three.

471
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Speaker 3: I would go Jefferson, Chase Brown. You have Brown over

472
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Speaker 3: like Ceedee Lamb.

473
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Speaker 2: And now we're in that situation. This is the thing

474
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Speaker 2: with receivers. All wide receivers.

475
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: Are not.

476
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: They don't all all situations aren't the same.

477
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Speaker 3: Note close, They're dependent.

478
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and Ceedee Lamb plays in the slot a

479
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: lot more than he like if you put AJ Brown

480
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Speaker 2: in the slot.

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Speaker 3: Right on the passing for on the Bengals, right. Yeah.

482
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Speaker 3: I mean the way I'm looking at it is, I

483
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Speaker 3: don't care what's on the back of your football card

484
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Speaker 3: as much as what'm I just see. And I think

485
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Speaker 3: that's why Brown is won because he's phenomenal, But the

486
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Speaker 3: stats aren't going to be close. I mean more, Chase

487
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: is won the triple crowd.

488
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: The scary thing about it is is an AJ Brown

489
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: and DK Metcalf are on the same college team.

490
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 3: Oh it's nuts, right, right, it's nuts.

491
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean they're both these massive, monster wide receivers and.

492
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Speaker 3: They're humongous whatever all miss was doing right, Actually so

493
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: was Waddle and Smith and you know, right, Jefferson and

494
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Speaker 3: Chase is the craziest. I mean getting Burrow throwing to him. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 3: but who would be your one? Mine's Jefferson buying hair.

496
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Speaker 2: I would probably have Jefferson one.

497
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Speaker 3: I think he is the most receiving yards per game

498
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Speaker 3: in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's done it even when they've

500
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Speaker 2: had bad.

501
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Speaker 3: Course, it didn't say it doesn't matter at all. Yeah,

502
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter one bit.

503
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that. Yeah, he just goes out and

504
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: puts up his hundred yards and you can't stop.

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Speaker 3: It, and even contested balls all levels. I have no

506
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Speaker 3: negatives on Chase either.

507
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: No, they're both great players. Every guy on this list

508
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: is a very good football player.

509
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Speaker 3: The fact that Pickens didn't make it like we think

510
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: he should, but we could probably come up with five

511
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: or six other names that position. We're saying something nice

512
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: about a guy who's not here anymore or who ever

513
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Speaker 3: do that? Right? No, right, that's not the way. There's

514
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: a lot of good receivers not on the list. Yeah, yeah,

515
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: that's it's such a commit, such a competitive like.

516
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Speaker 2: If the Steelers made it, if they acquire another wide receiver, well,

517
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: he's not a top thirty two receiver, fine, right, right, right,

518
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Speaker 2: If he's a top fifty receiver, you're still an impact player,

519
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: really good, right, like the good players not on I'm

520
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: just thinking about who's not on this list.

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Speaker 3: I was just scanning my brain. I mean, like just

522
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Speaker 3: in the AFC, I always start with my division, and

523
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: it's like Shakir Digs, I mean, just in that division,

524
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: right off the bat, they're like, these guys are pretty good,

525
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Speaker 3: you know, and you're still not on the list. Again,

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Speaker 3: I'm going, Judy had a Judy was a pro bowler

527
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Speaker 3: last year. Not on the list, right right, right, Ridley again,

528
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Speaker 3: division by division, Pittman, you know, any kind of a

529
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: down year, downs made it, you know. I mean that's

530
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: three divisions off the top of my head that are

531
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Speaker 3: all really good players don't make the list, you know.

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00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just and there again, this is thirty two.

533
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: There are thirty two teams in the league. A lot

534
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: of these guys are on the same team.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Eagles have two, Bucks have two, Miami

536
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: is two be great to have too, It's fantastic right too,

537
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: And the Steelers almost did for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If I'm questioning some of the guys who are

539
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: on the list, like, is this too early for Marvin Harrison?

540
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Speaker 3: Maybe I thought his season was good, not great, but

541
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: expectations were too high. Crazy, but I'd have him over Debo.

542
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 3: Deebo's the name that Deebo.

543
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Speaker 2: I don't think Deebo belongs on there anymore.

544
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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, It's not too early for like Smith

545
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: n Jigba for me though, but he was a target monster.

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rashi Rice to me is a good player, but

547
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: he hasn't done it for a complete see I see

548
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: him on the field more, right, I'd like to see

549
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: a full season of doing that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Like I'm glad like Cooper Cup isn't on

551
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 3: there anymore. Again, I'm just scanning the teams in my head.

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00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: How about a Jayden Reid? Probably not, but he's a

553
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: really good player. Yeah, I mean that's a tough list

554
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Speaker 3: to make. I mentioned a couple in the AFC I

555
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: think are close. I don't who won't be on their

556
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Speaker 3: next year. I don't think Debo will be on their

557
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Speaker 3: next year. I hope like Evans and McLaurin don't fall

558
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: off and Adams and some of those old Tyreek.

559
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Speaker 2: I just want to call up the receptions leaders here

560
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: from last year and see who.

561
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Speaker 3: Are the top guys that didn't make it that were

562
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: most productive?

563
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking here? Uh, when Jakobe Myers had eighty seven

564
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: catch up, I almost mentioned him. I was in a

565
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards last year, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should make the list.

567
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: But still their quarterback situation was not great and he

568
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: had the fight with Brock Bauers for receptions. Like when

569
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Speaker 2: we bring him up, I think he's vastly underrated.

570
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Right right, I mean he had a move thrown his

571
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: name out as a Steeler trade target and it'd be very,

572
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: very useful.

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00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: He had a more productive year than who's on that list,

574
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Speaker 2: Jamison Williams. Williams had fifty eight catches for one thousand

575
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Speaker 2: and one yards. He had a more productive season the

576
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: T Higgins now Higgins missed time. DJ Moore seventeen games,

577
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: ninety eight catches for nine hundred and sixty six yards,

578
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: didn't have year, didn't have a great year. Yeah, I

579
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Speaker 2: mean you could argue that Darnell Mooney had a better year.

580
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mooney a big year. Should Jordan Addison be on

581
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Speaker 3: that list?

582
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison is a rookie. Sixty two catches for eight

583
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five yards and eight touchdowns. That's why

584
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't know that he belongs on that

585
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: list over some of these other guys that have done

586
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: it year in and year.

587
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: I think Pickens is a better player than Harrison right now. Yeah,

588
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and he's better than five or six

589
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: on that list. How about you one, Jennings, I can't

590
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: get there. But he had a monster year and monster year.

591
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly better than Deebo Samuel's year.

592
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: It was. I would have Ayuk over both of them

593
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: for sure.

594
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: Who else was on that list? That was DeVante Smith

595
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: on there?

596
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: Yes, both Eagles were, Yeah, but their their production is

597
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: always gonna be low.

598
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even at that, I mean he only he

599
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: missed four games. He miss four games, Yeah, sixty eight

600
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Speaker 2: catches in thirteen games. I mean he he had nine

601
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: more yards, nine more total yards than Alec Pierce last year.

602
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pierce had a couple of long touchdowns and that

603
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

604
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Josh Downs had eight hundred and three yards on seventy

605
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Speaker 2: two catches.

606
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Speaker 3: Did he miss time?

607
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: He played in fourteen games?

608
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Speaker 3: Fourteen Okay, Yeah, like Davante Smith might not even be

609
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: like a fantasy starter as good as football player as

610
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Speaker 3: he is. Yah see in the top thirty six in

611
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: terms of production week the week.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's really I mean, there aren't that

613
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Speaker 2: many guys last year that had you're talking twenty four

614
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: total players had one thousand receiving.

615
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Speaker 3: Yards, including like Bowers and some of those were tight ends. Yeah,

616
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: so the idea, you know, you gotta it's it's not

617
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Speaker 3: as easy to get to as you think. No, because

618
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: in health obviously fact health health, health is a huge factor.

619
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Speaker 3: Like Mike Evans, if you remember, barely got there and

620
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: they had a force today. They kind of forced it

621
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Speaker 3: a little bit, right because he missed three games. So anyways, listen,

622
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Speaker 3: it's on a bad list. Yeah, let's get to a

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Speaker 3: break here. He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lalli,

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Speaker 3: and you're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson, and we are joined on the Justin

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Speaker 2: Miller Hotline by new Steelers cornerback Darius Slay. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: call you mister Sligh. I feel I know you like

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Speaker 2: to be called Slagh, but I don't. I haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: the chance to meet you at Darius, and I don't

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Speaker 2: feel right calling you just by your last name. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna call you mister Sligh. Is that okay?

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Speaker 3: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Anyway? So we welcome you to Pittsburgh. We're really excited

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Speaker 2: to have you on the show today, and we appreciate

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Speaker 2: you dropping by and taking some time here with us

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking here at your numbers over your career,

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Speaker 2: and some of the these things are just astounding. Your

648
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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen season, you led the NFL in interceptions with eight.

649
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: You also had twenty six pass defenses that year, twenty six.

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Speaker 2: They're guys who have entire careers and they don't get

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Speaker 2: their hands on twenty six footballs. What was that season

652
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Speaker 2: like for your first team All Pro that year? What

653
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Speaker 2: was that season like? Were you just in the zone

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Speaker 2: that year and like everything that was throwing your way

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Speaker 2: was like slow motion?

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Speaker 3: Did you follow the number one receivers quite a bit

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: that year too?

658
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been following number one receiver since like probably

659
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: like fifteen. Okay, So as I got acclimated with doing that, man,

660
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: it got easy and comfortable. My studying wasn't got a

661
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: lot better because I really had to just focus on

662
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: one guy and just take away everything that he likes

663
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: to do. And I was just you know, I got

664
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: better at you know, catching the rock too for a

665
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: little bit too as hard to catch them picks. So

666
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: I got a little better with that. But yeah, I'll

667
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: really lot in that year, real good year for me,

668
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: real real solid shuret Also, I wish I had. I

669
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: wish they like I will probably have this as a

670
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: player of the year, you know, with the with the

671
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: cornerback stuff that went in the DP or why now,

672
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: I would have probably wanted then, but back then they

673
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: ain't look at it like that.

674
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those are defensive player of the Year

675
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: type numbers. I mean, that's that is legit.

676
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: A strong case.

677
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: And over the course of your career, if you look

678
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: at it, you've had double digit pass defenses every season

679
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: except your rookie year and then in twenty twenty and

680
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. The last three seasons you've had double

681
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: digit pass defenses. You're just a guy that get that

682
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: makes plays on the football.

683
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's what you know, that's my job

684
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: to do, make plays on the football. I got great instincts.

685
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm a guy that's really competitive, man. And that's the

686
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: one thing that tells you about me as a you know,

687
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: as a cornerback that I'm always you know, close to

688
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: my defender. A lot of guys I feel like that,

689
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: you know, that's not close to the Finland don't have

690
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: a lot of PVU, so you know, and I play

691
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: against a lot of great quarterbacks, and I'm always used

692
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: to be the more traveling, so you know, I get

693
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: I gets the best route runnings. I go against some

694
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: of the best quarterbacks, and it'll be hard to pick

695
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: these guys. Also, at least you know that the fact

696
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: that I'm close and close enough to him and make

697
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: affection on the ball. So that's that's the good thing

698
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: about me, that I stay close by a defender and

699
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: give me a chance to make a play on the ball.

700
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: Go ahead and say, the Steelers talked about you, about

701
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: you defending number one receivers. That's something they've done with

702
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: Joey quite a bit. So I wonder how that might

703
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: work out. Or is it too early to have those conversations.

704
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 4: Well, it's probably too early, you know. I don't know

705
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: what they what they plan is technically about me if

706
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: I'm traveling now. But you know, I'm thirty four years old,

707
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: even though I think I can still do it at

708
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: a very very lage level. But I think Joey is

709
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 4: a great guy man, a great player. I've been watching

710
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: this film a long time. I think it's really time

711
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: for him to, you know, to shine, And you know,

712
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: I'm just here to help him make sure he's the

713
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 4: best player he could possibly be. Give him all the

714
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: tools that I had learned from a lot of my

715
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: older guys and OG's I have played within the league.

716
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: So I think it's really his time.

717
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: Man.

718
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 4: I think I'm here to help him, you know, bloss

719
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: him up. And you know he's already a great player

720
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: as it is. Uh, just help him continue to keep

721
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: climbing his ceiling.

722
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: How much does it help you that that you're being

723
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: reunited with Terrell Austin here in Pittsburgh.

724
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: All been great, man. We stayed having a great relationships

725
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 4: since twenty fourteen, since the first time he he stepped

726
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 4: the foot in Detroit. And you know, he had love.

727
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: He loved me as a corner when I was coming out.

728
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: He wanted to draft me in and so we got

729
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: a great opportunity to work with each other for like

730
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: what four years, five maybe, and uh, you know he

731
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: became a real good friend of mine, a real good

732
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: mentor for me. Uh, like he said, you know, he

733
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 4: loved the corner room. You know, that's one of his specialties.

734
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: That's his uh, you know, before he's a d C

735
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: that we he coaches the corner. So we had a

736
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: lot of great stuff in common, and we got a

737
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: great you know, he understands the position and you know,

738
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, you don't win everyone, but he know he

739
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: had to put you in a position to help to see.

740
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: So I just learned from the defense on him, just

741
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 4: watching him and meeting up with him in the morning

742
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: for a long time when I was young. So uh, yeah,

743
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: he did a lot of justice into my in my

744
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: career at a young age.

745
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Have you matched up much against DK Metcalf over the years,

746
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: and if so, tell our listeners what the Steelers are

747
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: getting in in that guy.

748
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 4: Oh man, I did a lot of him, had a

749
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: lot of great competitions. Yeah, played against each other one

750
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: time before. But just watching him from afar, he's amazing, man,

751
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: great d ball threat. Guy's going to tack the ball.

752
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: Guy's paid with plat with a lot of passion and

753
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: he worked so uh you know, still got a great

754
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: hands with definitely with him being this guy to stand

755
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: it too with an extra five in five years. Uh,

756
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: they got a great receiver in hands Man, So I

757
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: know he gon do some great things here and you

758
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: know he's gonna be one of the best in the business.

759
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: Pretty good size too, Oh yeah, yeah, Oh yeah, man,

760
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: he's a he's a freaking nature man. He's he's a

761
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: guy that's a six sixty three running like that and

762
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: just and yeah he see with them shirt with his.

763
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: Shirt off, he was like an android Camps.

764
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Uh, Darius, you you've you've been around the league, You've

765
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: you've you've played your entire career. However, in the NFC,

766
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: are you looking forward to seeing what the what the

767
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: AFC has to offer here? I mean, Cincinnati has two

768
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: really good receivers, and you look around some of these

769
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: other guys at this point. I mean, Matt and I

770
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: just went over the top a list of the top

771
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: thirty two receivers in the league, and there were a

772
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: bunch of guys that weren't even on that list. I mean,

773
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: it just seems like everybody has that dude now, regardless

774
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: of how good you are or how bad you are,

775
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: everybody has a receiver now that is really dangerous.

776
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's what the game is involvement to man,

777
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: the quarterback playing the receiver. Play back, when I was

778
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: coming in a game, it was usually just one dominant

779
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: receiver then everybody else kind of like feeling and getting

780
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: what you fit in. But now teams need to you know,

781
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: dominant guys because I think the corner position and the

782
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 4: defense is a no no is taking away that dominant guy.

783
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: Now you got to worry about two of them. So, uh,

784
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: the games just involvement and you know, become more of

785
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: a passing lead and you know, not really running and

786
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 4: run heavy. You know, some some some teams still run

787
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: the ball heavy, but a lot of teams just don't

788
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: do that. The more they think about, you know, the

789
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: quarterback position getting fifty sixty million dollars and I'm sure

790
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: a lot of folks don't want to see them handing

791
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: the ball off a lot, but it be like it'd

792
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: be like that. So but there's a lot of teams, man,

793
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: I just need you know, two dominant guys to you know,

794
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: to win games. And and that's what the lead is

795
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: going to.

796
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: Are you are you looking forward to these OTA sessions

797
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: next week? The first opportunity. I know there's been guys

798
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: in and out of the building, and you know, guys

799
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: have done stuff, but this first opportunity to kind of

800
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: get to see everybody all at once in more of

801
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: a group fashion.

802
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: Here.

803
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, we look up Dane Shore looking

804
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: forward to that, man, because you know, getting back to

805
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: the competitive spirit of just grinding, competing and learning to

806
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: play books and you know, going out here trying to

807
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: get each other better. So you know we're looking forward

808
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: to I know everybody you know, trying to like, you know,

809
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: get themselves great to go for the season, you know.

810
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: But it's a good time time for good learning and

811
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: good exercising and I just understanding your players and understanding

812
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: your teammates.

813
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: So last year you were an integral part on a

814
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: super Bowl winning team. Congratulations by the way, that had

815
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: to be incredible and thank you, yeah all yeah, And

816
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: what lessons did you learn? And you know how amazing

817
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: was the experience overall? And you know, how can you

818
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: take that to the new team, you know, teaching these

819
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: guys to maybe get to those levels.

820
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: Man, Just just I learned a lot from just you know,

821
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: my years in Philly, you know, being uh that went

822
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 4: to Super Bowl twice, just knowing what it like takes.

823
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. My first time getting past

824
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 4: the first round in the playoffs was shoot was two

825
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: three years ago in twenty twenty two. You know, every

826
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: other time first knocked out, So I ain't never had

827
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: that experience, I ain't know what what to expect. Uh So,

828
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: you know, going into my first time making it, I

829
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: learned that, you know, make sure your body is good

830
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 4: to go for the for the whole long run. And

831
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: you know, but it all started with like great leadership

832
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: and great great guys that's been willing to work. You know,

833
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: I think is a great thing that this team I'm

834
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: going through right now with the Pittsburgh I think he

835
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: got a great mixture of younger guys that's very very

836
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 4: talented and god, that's you know, older that's still very

837
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: very talented. So and I think that's what it tastes

838
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: because both of my teams that I played on with

839
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: any Philly that made it got that kind of you

840
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: know that look, you know, an older team with younger

841
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 4: guys that's ready to go. Like so that's all it is.

842
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: And then everybody just have to buy in, so you know,

843
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: and that's hard for a lot of guys to do

844
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 4: with the money involved because everybody, you know, job is

845
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: mostly they want to win games. But some guys you know,

846
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: play the game, they take care of their family and

847
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: that's just the honest troop about it. But when everybody

848
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: buys in and everybody got one gold in mine. I

849
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: think that's the main key of winning.

850
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: Well.

851
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: Our guest has been Darius Big play slay or mister

852
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: slay or just slays. He likes to be called it

853
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: all plays. Well, that's uh either, Darius. We we appreciate

854
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: you drop him by and spending some time with us.

855
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you next week at Ota Sessions

856
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: and down the road here. Looking forward to that and

857
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: good luck this season. Wish you all the luckier. Happy

858
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: to have you in Pittsburgh and you should be a

859
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: great addition to this franchise.

860
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: All right, thank you.

861
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: That was Darius Leigh, Steelers new cornerback.

862
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: And really some of those numbers you pulled.

863
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: Out, numbers are crazy. Yeah, you know again, getting eight

864
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: interceptions in a season really difficult in this league. His

865
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: twenty eight in his career.

866
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but isn't the seventies where chucking it up? No, right,

867
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: I mean all the quick hitters and the precise passing games.

868
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: And in twenty six pass defense and if you look

869
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 2: at his number, I mean he's got even the last

870
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: three seasons in Philadelphia, thirteen pass breakups last year, fourteen

871
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: year before that, fourteen year before that. I mean, that's

872
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: a lot, and you're a guy that has that reputation.

873
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Speaker 2: Like typically if you have an eight interception season, you

874
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: break up twenty six passes. Nobody's throwing your way, sure,

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Speaker 2: and even if you're traveling with the numbers.

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Speaker 3: He's often the best receiver though too.

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Speaker 2: But you're making plays on the football and that will

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00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: get the attention. But he had He's had two seasons

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Speaker 2: of seventeen pass defenses, the twenty six one and every

880
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: other season except for the three where he didn't get

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Speaker 2: to didn't quite get to the double digits, he's had

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Speaker 2: at least thirteen pass breakups.

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Speaker 3: Wow. The one thing that's stuck with me too, just

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Speaker 3: chatting with him was he talked about how long it

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Speaker 3: is when you win the Super Bowl and taking care

886
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Speaker 3: of your body and all that. And we know he's

887
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: not a young player. He played his best football, not

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00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: that it was bad during the regular season, but his

889
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: postseason stuff was really high end. You know, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think that's really important. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at his his playoff stats over

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Speaker 2: the years, even and he's played in eleven playoff games.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, Lions teams weren't great for a while.

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Speaker 2: No, they weren't. He had the interception last year in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. H had five pass breakups in the playoffs

896
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Speaker 2: last year. That was the most of any buddy.

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Speaker 3: He had a really good playoff front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, you know, he just knows get it,

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Speaker 2: get his and there's a skill to that. There are

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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of defensive backs out there. Well,

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00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 2: he was right in position to make the play. Terrell

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Speaker 2: Edmonds comes and comes to mind when I think about that,

903
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: that you're in position to make it play on the ball,

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Speaker 2: but you can't find the football.

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Speaker 3: You can't find the football too, And I think he

906
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 3: mentioned that earlier. Even working on your hands and ball

907
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: skills and eyes, you know what. I mean, a lot

908
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: of that stuff too. The fact that you got what

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Speaker 3: eight in that one year is pretty hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Pretty hard.

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty tight company.

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Speaker 2: And I think to your point, I think Joey Porter

913
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Speaker 2: can learn a lot from from Yeah, like Darius Slay.

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Speaker 3: I think, no question about it. Yeah, And they all

915
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: can be.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody in that room can learn some things

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Speaker 2: from him.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention him and Kenny Gainwell won a Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl last year. You bring those guys in the town

920
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: that that rubs off. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so appreciate that. Darius Big play Slay, big player

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Speaker 2: Slay as.

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Speaker 3: He likes to be, know that part right, Yeah, when

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00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: he called it and he's like, hey, it's Slay all right.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's a cool name though, I mean my name

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Speaker 2: was Slay. I think maybe i'd go Lolly doesn't sign.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't love that. Williamson.

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Speaker 3: That was great.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely appreciate him dropping by. Good a chance to talk

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Speaker 2: to some of these guys. More of these guys as

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Speaker 2: we get into ota sessions and things of that nature

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Speaker 2: next week. Uh, but that's going to do it for

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Speaker 2: our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller hotline

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Speaker 2: and the soundboard, and for Tyler viitt Meyer making sure

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Speaker 2: our video gets out there on the YouTube gives a

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Speaker 2: thumbs up there. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening to this edition of the Drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.