WEBVTT - “I HOOKED UP WITH MY COUSIN”

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the gag?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Who is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh we'll just we'll just we'll just call.

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<v Speaker 2>Me tea Tea. How old are you, Tea?

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's up, Tea?

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<v Speaker 3>Not much. I was just about, uh, just about a

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<v Speaker 3>load of bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I get you today, sir?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I kind of got this. Uh, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got a really weird story. So fuck it's weird. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never told anybody this before. So when I was uh,

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<v Speaker 3>when I was fifteen, I went to this hotsprings with

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<v Speaker 3>my dad and like right as my parents were getting divorced,

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<v Speaker 3>so he just kind of wanted to like take us

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<v Speaker 3>out and do stuff. And uh, like fucking we go

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<v Speaker 3>to this hotsprings with my with my cousins and uh, right,

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<v Speaker 3>my female cousin that we have, she's like she like

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<v Speaker 3>we went with them or whatever. We were like fucking

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, you know, it was like a hot sping

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<v Speaker 3>was like a pool and like a hot from next

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<v Speaker 3>to you and all the kids was like going to

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking pool. And I was so kind of you know, young,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was fucking she told me I looked hot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was so like brought off by that, and

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<v Speaker 3>like it took me back a little bit, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just fucking like, I don't know, thought about it for

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<v Speaker 3>a minute, and fucking like twenty minutes later, she came

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<v Speaker 3>back up to me and like told me she wanted to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, do the deed, and uh basically short story,

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<v Speaker 3>short story, later that night, we uh, you know I

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<v Speaker 3>did the deed.

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<v Speaker 2>All right now, Well it's her tea t Yeah yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 2>look he's I'm more than happy to have this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with you, but I just like human being the human being. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just really really need to ask you if you're messing

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<v Speaker 2>with her right now, because it's like the number one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that people to talk about is having sex with

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<v Speaker 2>their cousin. It's like, I don't know why that's like

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<v Speaker 2>the time, it's like the boy who cried cousin fucking like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the number one thing that people call in to

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<v Speaker 2>like make up. But I'm sure there are and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel and if I feel bad for the people who

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<v Speaker 2>actually did fuck their cousins that want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it because of all the people who make who like

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<v Speaker 2>make up stories about fucking their cousins. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you're which of those two people you are,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna trust you whichever of those two people

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<v Speaker 2>you say you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like I'm I definitely did not make the story

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<v Speaker 3>of it. I feel like I've regretted it my whole

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<v Speaker 3>fucking life. Like there's like like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>just like suck my whole Like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily fuck my life though, but like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fucked my sexual life because a little bit, because like

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<v Speaker 3>it's just you know, that's like what I especially like

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<v Speaker 3>when I listen to uh, this is kind of weird,

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<v Speaker 3>but like every time I listen to that one fucking

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<v Speaker 3>not jo is it a cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>That one song where he you know, he loses virginity

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<v Speaker 3>and they like passed the note through school and like

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<v Speaker 3>that every fucking time that song comes up on my playlist,

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<v Speaker 3>that like that instant just fucking pops in my head

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<v Speaker 3>that my first time was fucking my cousin. I just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm so like just so fucked. I should

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<v Speaker 3>see the chap.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't don't what what don't? First of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the chat. Second about so tea A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of questions mm hmm, first cousin or second cousin.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. So she's my my dad's first cousin's kids. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that makes for my seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she's not like your dad's brother's daughter. No, no, no, no, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So she was your dad's cousin's daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and this was three years ago, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>About four.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it happened. I think it happened. Well, my parents

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<v Speaker 3>got divorced in twenty late twenty twenty, at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of summer twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I mean, look, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>a second cousin. I'm not gonna I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's good. I'm not I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sign off. Yeah, look, I look, well I don't look. Ideally,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna have sex with someone, they would not

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<v Speaker 2>be your cousin. But if but second cousin, at the least,

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<v Speaker 2>it's at least it is better. It is better than

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<v Speaker 2>first cousin. It could be worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did, I did. I wouldn't. I did wrap

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<v Speaker 3>it before I tapped it, you know, so there wasn't like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I wasn't direct skin contact. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but it was there. Can I how I see

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<v Speaker 2>you were what you were fourteen and fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how old?

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<v Speaker 3>Well we're the same age. She's born like a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of months before.

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<v Speaker 2>I am okay, you're yeah. Do you ever like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you ever see her like at like stuffy?

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<v Speaker 3>So she's on my dad's side, so and my parents

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<v Speaker 3>got divorced, and I don't. I don't see my dad anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't see her at all, Like I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen her. We used to go to the same high school,

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<v Speaker 3>and even everyone time I did seear, I just fucking

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<v Speaker 3>turned the hallway. I would have voiter as well as

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<v Speaker 3>like fast as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you're being one hundred percent serious, right, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>swear to God. Okay, I believe you. I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I try not to have this sounds real

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<v Speaker 2>like you. I feel like i've anyway whatever you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>the Chews, I believe you. Have you ever told anyone

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<v Speaker 2>else about this?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel so like I'm so shaky right now, like

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<v Speaker 3>I I've never told anybody this, And I like even

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<v Speaker 3>when people ask me what my first time was, I

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<v Speaker 3>just told him I met some girl at Hotspring, like

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<v Speaker 3>I told him. I just met some girl at Hosprings

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<v Speaker 3>and it was random girl I met at Hot Springs.

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<v Speaker 3>We just hooked up, and that is that the first time?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the first time you ever met her?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we known each other for a little while before that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you ever you ever go to a therapy

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this or you've literally this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, you're the first kind of therapy. I've brought

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<v Speaker 3>this the first time I've ever gotten it off my chairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well let's I mean, I have a few questions,

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<v Speaker 2>But how does it feel to get it off your chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Better?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I feel a little little more.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first of all, I mean, look, you're not the

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<v Speaker 2>first guy to have sex with uh, their second cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>They do that. These that there was a time in

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<v Speaker 2>in America. This is I'm making this up, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also I'm making this up, but it comes from a

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<v Speaker 2>place that is is there's a kernel of truth. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there was a period of time in human society

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<v Speaker 2>where more people's sexual partners were their second cousins than not.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I got to keep it in the bloodline.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I don't know if that's true, and don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's true. It see. It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like it makes sense though, because people didn't used to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know when back when people like you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>they lived in like tribes and stuff. Like when people

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<v Speaker 2>would hang out in tribes, everyone was having sex with

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<v Speaker 2>their cousins all the time, you know, right, So you're

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<v Speaker 2>not the first guy to do that, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you don't have to feel that weird?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not the first guy in history, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I mean, like the you know, royals used to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like trade off their cousins and shit. So

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<v Speaker 3>me and I maybe my ancestors are proud of me

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're making this up. Are you making

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<v Speaker 2>this up? No? Okay, right, I believe I believe you.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you. No, no, no, you don't be sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe you.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't know. It's just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fucking I feel like I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I fucked up my first time, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I like now, looking back at it, I wish I

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<v Speaker 3>just never I mean I wish I didn't do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff in my life. You can't really be

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<v Speaker 3>regretful about it, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're you're only eighteen, man, You're it's too young

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<v Speaker 2>to have so many crazy regrets.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's because weird, you know, talking to somebody

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me why, you let's get into this real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean what, so tell me why this seats awagh

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<v Speaker 2>at you? Like obviously you know it's not a socially

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<v Speaker 2>acceptable thing, like, but but let's let's let's really get

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<v Speaker 2>into it. I mean why, let's get into your feelings

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and maybe we can find something. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like what, tell me more about your feelings about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know. I came up from like

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<v Speaker 3>a more I mean, I moved around a lot when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid, but for the most of like

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<v Speaker 3>my high school years, I lived in like this smaller town,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, like anything like uh drama related like that,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if the cot wind just the slides, everybody would know,

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody in the whole fucking town would know what

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<v Speaker 3>you did.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 3>So it could be some of that, but I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, man, you know, first of all, I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>were four. First of all, I don't I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>think anything that you did with your life before, anything

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<v Speaker 2>you did with your life before you I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>were fourteen when this happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, unless if you like killed somebody, kind of anything

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<v Speaker 2>you did with your life before you were eighteen, you're fine,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I think you can. You can, you can,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get you can get it, you can get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can have a clean slate with this one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean it's kind of not been eating me

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<v Speaker 3>as much, especially because I moved out of the state

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<v Speaker 3>that where she lives at and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm like six hundred miles away from her now,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not like it's kind of in the back

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<v Speaker 3>of my mind. But just like like I said, like

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<v Speaker 3>some times, like especially when I'm at like work, I

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<v Speaker 3>have my music in like that, I'm pretty sure it's

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<v Speaker 3>that Jake Cole. I'm kind of nervous right now, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of my mind is kind of racing

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. But I fuck, I forget what it's called.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know what I'm talking Like that one song

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<v Speaker 3>where he's like passing notes with his fucking chick or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's talking about his first time. Like every single

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<v Speaker 3>time that song comes up, or like anybody talks about

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<v Speaker 3>their first time having sex, it always just like pops

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<v Speaker 3>in my head. It's like, damn, you fucked up for

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<v Speaker 3>your first time. Like you you know that you can

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<v Speaker 3>never tell anybody about your first time because they're just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna think, you know, you're a fucking cousin fucker or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. What Dreams, Yeah, that's the song I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, don't you don't have to listen to Jake Cole?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that I said?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to listen to j Cole?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's a good just block.

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<v Speaker 2>J Cole, just a good block. Jake Cole on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I should.

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<v Speaker 2>Well listen, man, I I don't don't. Don't let this

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<v Speaker 2>ruin your life. You know, go ahead and you will

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<v Speaker 2>have you will eventually have sex with people who are

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<v Speaker 2>not your cousin. You will eventually.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done other things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool, whether whether you did or your day, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're, you're you're gonna you're gonna be fine. T

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<v Speaker 2>all right. If if you haven't told anyone this and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the first person you've told let I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be fine. I'm telling you shouldn't forget about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling you to stop listening to J Cole.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I'm gonna pick that song off.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking off the playlift. Why is it still even on there?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're if it's making you, I'm just gonna say that. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say this. T if I had a

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<v Speaker 2>song that reminded me of fucking my cousin, I would

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have it on my playlist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Yeah, I probably I

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<v Speaker 3>should probably take that song.

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<v Speaker 5>Off off.

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<v Speaker 2>Tee. Is there any other way that I can help you?

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<v Speaker 2>This evening? Was this helpful?

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<v Speaker 3>I think this one was very helpful. Okay, honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>surprised because I literally saw your like live notification and

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<v Speaker 3>I texted you and I didn't think you were gonna

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<v Speaker 3>call me and I which is pretty surprising.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here we are, and just here we are, just

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<v Speaker 2>two guys who are gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else want to say to the people

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<v Speaker 2>in the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, just keep it real and Uh, don't suck your

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<v Speaker 3>cousin because.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll regret it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, take care of man.

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<v Speaker 3>You too. I love the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thanks brother, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>You too. I lost my virginity a two to my

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<v Speaker 2>first girlfriend when I was eighteen years old, and like

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<v Speaker 2>six years later, she sends me a text and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of her wearing a Therapy Gecko T shirt

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, my friends found out that I lost

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<v Speaker 2>my virginity to the Therapy Gecko, and so they bought

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<v Speaker 2>me this T shirt. I hope you're doing well. It

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<v Speaker 2>was actually very very kind. Hey, folks, this is Lyle.

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<v Speaker 2>I am very excited to announce that I am going

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<v Speaker 2>back on tour in twenty twenty four to do Therapy

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<v Speaker 2>Gecko Live all across the country. If you've never been

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<v Speaker 2>to one of my live shows before, they are extremely fun, unpredictable,

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<v Speaker 2>wild evenings that involve a mix of group Gecko therapy

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<v Speaker 2>sessions as well as some material and presentations from myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've been to the sh show before, I

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<v Speaker 2>have new presentations and will of course be interviewing new people.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a fan of the podcast, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a great time at the live show, so I hope

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<v Speaker 2>to see you guys there. Go to therapy geckotour dot

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<v Speaker 2>com or check the link in the episode description for

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<v Speaker 2>a full list of cities where tickets are available. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't see your city on the list of cities,

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<v Speaker 2>please still click the link and RSVP with your phone

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<v Speaker 2>number so I can contact you when tickets go on

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<v Speaker 2>sale for your city, because I'm going to announce a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch more dates very soon. Gek bless Hello. Hi, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your name, sir?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? This is Mike. Who's this? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Gecko guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, what's up Mike? How you doing, buddy? What's

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Not much, man, I'm just you know, chilling out calling

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<v Speaker 1>in the gek you know. Well, wow, I got nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize I was going to get nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny. I'll tell a story real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>So back I first, I used to do this show

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<v Speaker 2>on uh Reddit. That's how the show first started. As

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<v Speaker 2>there used to be this thing called the Reddit Public

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<v Speaker 2>Access Network where people would like live stream themselves to Reddit,

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<v Speaker 2>and if enough people were watching your stream, Reddit would

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<v Speaker 2>actually put your stream to the front page of Reddit.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's kind of how I got started doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>is like my streams kept getting to the front page

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<v Speaker 2>of Reddit, and I, you know, there'd be like forty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand concurrent viewers on my Reddit streams, and I, for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, I just never got nervous. I really, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I couldn't really like feel the

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<v Speaker 2>presence of those people, and it just my my central

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system never spiked or anything like that. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>what's Interestyle, Well, hold on me. Let me just restressing though,

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<v Speaker 2>is that there occasionally would be other streamers who would

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<v Speaker 2>do call in shows. And I remember there was this

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<v Speaker 2>other streamer. I don't remember what their name was, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was bored one night and I was watching this

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<v Speaker 2>other streamer who like had a call in show and

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<v Speaker 2>they maybe had like fifteen people watching their stream. But

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<v Speaker 2>I called in and they picked up, and for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>I got nervous when I was on the phone. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so weird to me. I was like, why am

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<v Speaker 2>I nervous calling in to somebody else's stream but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>totally fine on my own. It didn't make any sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me. It kind of made me like realize what

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<v Speaker 2>it was like to be on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, man, that is kind of funny. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>used to, like, you know, I've like done singing in

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<v Speaker 1>theater and stuff like that, and I should be used

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<v Speaker 1>to talking to people live. But you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, your hero's phone line is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. There's no way I'm your hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I have literally, oh honestly, you know what, I have

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<v Speaker 1>discovered a new like interesting path because not only of you,

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<v Speaker 1>because of other streamers too. Like I didn't even realize

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<v Speaker 1>it was a thing, you know, and I here, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>like this old dude hanging out on the internet, just

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<v Speaker 1>found lyle you know, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, so what what's this new path that you

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<v Speaker 2>found as a result of like streamers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was really tired of working for big

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<v Speaker 1>corporations and stuff like that, and I just like went

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<v Speaker 1>off and did my own business thing because I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people just kind of doing the the

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<v Speaker 1>their own thing, you know. And now the internet is

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<v Speaker 1>so cool you can pretty much do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could always do whatever you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>within reason, right, but now it seems like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit safer and more fun, you know, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna dig in your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what tell me, what's this? What's this thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing? What's this biz?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'm just I'm I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>on computers, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I help people with their uh with their computers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>recovering data, doing you know whatever, helping their website. Just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I do all the discourse. I'm a tech guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I spend a lot of time doing

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff, and just I don't know, decided one day

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<v Speaker 1>I was tired of do I'm tired of doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody else except for myself, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do a project for myself. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do a project for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. I like that, I think I I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is that like uh or I'm I'm not a future

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<v Speaker 2>ologist or an economist or anything, but that seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like a utopian world. Like everybody's a freelancer. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no like nine to five corporate shits kind of

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<v Speaker 2>work when there needs to be work done, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I kind of like that, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>we can all kind of be ourselves and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do our thing. By the way, I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>Syracuse Show, dude, and it was so much fun experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't, I really like and my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was like a little skeptical, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because with Nana fifty, you know, not not and you're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty young, right, you're like in your twenties, dude, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I get along with I get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff that you guys are doing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you actually the first time I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>was in an interview with the guy from AFN or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the av EN the AVN.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh who wait, somebody was interviewing me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who dude was interviewing you on YouTube on the ABN.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, who's this get go guy? And

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<v Speaker 1>who a rabbit hole? Some porns to meet some porn

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<v Speaker 1>star or wanna be porn guy?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I inspired you to create a computer repair business.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's repair business, but yeah, I mean yeah, yeah essentially, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you inspired me like you and actually a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of other streamers. Actually, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>watched you know, if you're on twitch at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a gamer streamer called Pirate Software. That guy, he's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a bunch of guys like you who

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<v Speaker 1>are out there just you know, you can cultivate your

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<v Speaker 1>own Internet experience at this point, it's kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it is cool. I was having this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with someone last night. It's like, uh, you can really

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, do you it's you. We live in

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 2>a universe where it's like easier than ever to do

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<v Speaker 2>your own thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, So I mean, so, did you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did your wife like the show?

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<v Speaker 5>Was?

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<v Speaker 2>She was? She not skeptical anymore? Afterwards?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Did you like the show Hunt the

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<v Speaker 1>Gecko Show? Did you like it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Liked it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's good. That's cool because that's my that's my

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<v Speaker 2>like barometer. And people are gonna, I've I've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>to so many people who happened to be at my

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<v Speaker 2>live shows on this podcast lately that people are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>think it's plants. But that's my real barometer to see

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<v Speaker 2>if if the show was any good or not, if

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<v Speaker 2>like some person who's like boyfriend or girlfriend just dragged

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<v Speaker 2>them there, had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she had a great time. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there were some weird The people who come out

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<v Speaker 1>stays are pretty interesting, and that's why I like the show, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like it's a unique formula. You know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested in streaming too, and like I've always been thinking

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of like what the hell can I do in streaming world?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, But you show pretty much anybody you can

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<v Speaker 1>do any fucking thing really well. You can go interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>people and that's fucking great. And I think you're hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being so nice to me. Nothing about me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious about you. So you're you're you're you turn

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<v Speaker 2>just turned fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm turning fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>This name? Man, what's it? So it's interesting because I

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<v Speaker 2>mean mostly I talked to I feel like I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to think like like anecdotally, you know, it seems as

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<v Speaker 2>though we have a wide age range of people you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coming in on this on this, on this thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I go when I look at like

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<v Speaker 2>my analytics and stuff, it is it's mainly like eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty, you know, So what what's.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an outlife?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on at fifty. What's happening, how you're feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>how you're thinking, how's life, what's what's what can you

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<v Speaker 2>tell us?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, dude, you know it's it's fun, you know. I mean,

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm on multi you know, many depressant medications and you know, kids, divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>all the fun stuff. But but you know, I manage

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I go with therapy. You know it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people should go to their therapy. They should,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, actually you go ahead, go ahead and finish.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say I'll say my questions to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, I was just gonna say that.

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think everybody should, you know, uh, find

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>their own path. But don't you know ever stop working

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>on yourself. You know that's what I do.

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to tell you something. It's a little crazy,

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 2>but uh, I feel like it's good for I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to say it because I think it's only fair

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.080
<v Speaker 2>to like let people know where I'm at. Sometimes I

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I've been like fair, like I've been in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a crazy depression for a bit and I have.

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So have you like been depressed for like your whole life?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you consider yourself like have depression.

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh yeah, I'll diagnosed for sure. Oh yeah, diagnosed

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and everything. Yeah.

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 2>So, like I've been in a crazy depression and I

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, bruh, this is kind of dark. But

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself kind of recently, like, dude, you know,

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>if every day is gonna feel like this for the

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>rest of my life, like I don't know if it's

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 2>like worth it, you know what I mean. And because like,

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>because like I'm twenty I'm twenty six, and I used

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>to have this idea in my mind that like when

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I turned the thirty I would like explode like that

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>actually wouldn't even be like like that that like the

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 2>reality of me getting older doesn't even exist. I'm not

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying like I'm just gonna tell myself. I'm saying, like,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't. It's not I don't think about.

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't like past a certain time. Yeah, and

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>you oh, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm curious what your perspective is because your fifty,

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>so you've been dealing with depression for you know, twice

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>as long as I have. What's what's up? What's your take,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 2>What's what's your thoughts, what's your feelings? Had you overcome it?

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I mean it's just basically keep it a

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>positive attitude. That's all I've done.

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Dude.

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I finally went on Okay, so you know, I did

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 1>go on the meds because it was getting kind of

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like a little bad where you know, when you feel

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>those depressive thoughts where you know, self harm or any

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. Dude, you got to see a doctor

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>or a psychologist and get on some meds, you know, quickly,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>because that'll help you turn things around. And that's why

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I did, you know, And I'm still learning, you know.

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Every day I just try to stay positive, you know,

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>take care of my self. How much balance do you

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>have between the computer and like touching.

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Graph I'm trying. I mean it's hard because I, like,

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, what I do is on the computer, but

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>also a lot of what I a lot of what

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I do is not on the computer, you know, like

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the show in fucking Syracuse. I I am easily easily

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 2>happiest when I'm uh in front of you know, actual

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>human being.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I get so here. I'm curious about this because this

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>is something I've been talking to a friend a lot

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>about this because the whole like meds and therapy thing

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>like I've been so like when I get really depressed,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I kind of think to myself, like, Okay, I'm pretty

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>sure that all of this is due to external like life,

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like like there's something fixed

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like either like whatever, like uh, you know, interpersonal relationships

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 2>are fucked up, or like career stuff is like fucked up,

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>or like like you can actually peg it to something

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 2>external in your life. And and I've tried to like

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 2>figure this out, like is it is happiness and not

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 2>being depressed like a symptom of like your literal brain

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 2>chemistry that like medication can fix or that you know

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.959
<v Speaker 2>have meditation and perspective can fix. Or is it literally

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>like nah, dude, you got to like unfuck your actual

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>like life and make actual different changes to your life.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>And I go very back and forth on it because

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I've I've had a lot of you know, I have

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things in my life right now that

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I think would you know, I I at one point

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>really wanted and so if I just shifted my perspective

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>to be more grateful for the things I have, I

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>think I'd be happier. But then on another point. I

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>do look at a lot of aspects of my external life,

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yeah, that looks like I'm looking at

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>my fucking room right now, and it looks hilarious like this,

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>there's gecko suits straddled and upon this underwear in my sink. Bro, Like,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, stuff to be well. I mean, you're here.

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Let's say you gotta roll it back, though, dude, you

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 4>gotta roll it back.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's roll it back here, be realistic. You are a

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty something year old single dude, right, It's true. No

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>one's expecting you not to have your underwear strewn about

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the house. Okay. When I was twenty seven, dude, the

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>underwear was everywhere. So you're good. You're good there. Don't

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>worry about being slaw Yeah.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's just me that I meant that to say.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>And and the the underwear in my sink is is

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a is a microcosm of the underwear of my sink.

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Is is like a metaphor for just like external things

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>being like fucked up. And so basically what I'm getting

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>at is like I'm trying to Basically what I'm getting

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>at is simply how I'm trying to determine how much

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>of my unhappiness is based upon things wrong in my

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>external life or things wrong in my internal brain chemistry

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and perspective. And I'm curious what your death take is

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>on that.

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I honestly think it's like a mix, right, Yeah, I

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>think I've been using both. I've been using the CP

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>what they call the CPT, the cognitive behavioral therapy and medication,

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and they and they both worked. You know, I got

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>through a divorce. I also, you know, I do things

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>outside like you. I do things outside of my regular

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>work too, you know, like I'll do I take I

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>have a specific thing that I do for exercise that

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll do or you know, I don't know, I just

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>set up a routine, you know, people and kids, Like

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe kids were the one thing that kind of helped

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>me through some of this too, dude. Yeah, It's like

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>when I had kids and you know, relate, you know,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>regular relationships. Finally, you know, it took a while, but

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I finally got there, I was able to,

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, find some more balance in my life

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>by exerting different you know, taking the energy off me

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and putting it up on you know,

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>my family and the people who are close to me.

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well how old are you?

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Used to take a more Buddhist approach to life, and

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>now I'm taking like a more Buddhist approach to life.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm very I try to make a giving

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>thing every day. You know. I try to be kind

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to people.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I know the Internet is a shits pool of of

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of fun, you know, but it's you know, I try

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to be I try to be nice as possible, but

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm also kind of sarcastic. So you know, the Internet

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is perfect for me.

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So how old were you when you started your family.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in my thirties. Yeah, like my thirties something.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So what were you doing? So in your twenties, what

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>were you doing? Were you just like bumming around? What

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I was going to Yeah, I was going to college.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You know. I lived in a bunch of places. I

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>lived in Baltimore, I lived in Philly. I lived Yeah,

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I lived a bunch of places, you know, just traveling around.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I like to travel, you know, go go places. So

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I just with the you know, follow girlfriends here and

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>there too. You know. That's the other thing that I

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't been great at is relationships. So but now like

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I finally at me in my fifty

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and finally like at that point where I can be

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>good at relationships.

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Why why do you think you weren't good at relationships?

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, it's a good question. Just

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like early life stuff happened, I don't, you know, like

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody has got life stories, you know. So I think

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that probably my early lifehood stuff when I was growing

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>up as a teenager or a young one kind of

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>impacted my adulthood, you know. But I kind of like

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>late loomed in college in the finished until it was

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like twenty five or whatever. Hell man, I just paid

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>off my student loans.

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh congratulations, gee, I meant, yeah, gratulations.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>We took me twenty five years.

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>But you know, you know, crazy, what did you major in?

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a two year degree at radio and television

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and a business degree.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's crazy that it that it it

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>takes that long.

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and I was just you know, I was

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of doing it on my own two you know.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>So, how do you feel as though you've gotten better

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>at relationships?

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Well, the I mean, honestly, the therapy you know,

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like talking through things. You know, my therapist has kind

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of guided me through things as its kind of like

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a life coach, you know what I mean. So been

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>guiding me through you know, when I'm being an asshole

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>or when I'm you know, doing the right thing or

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the wrong thing. You know, that's been helpful.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:02.719
<v Speaker 5>M hm.

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So having some guidance you.

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Know, Well are you are you? Are you happy now? Oh?

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I'm I'm much happier now.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm my own boss and uh, you know, I

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>love it.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you think has your life gotten better every year?

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Or is it has it kind of been like a

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>like an up and down chart or like has it

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of been like.

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's enough. Yeah it's not. It's not like

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>even for me.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 2>No, man, But does it But does it trend upwards

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 2>over over time?

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Sure. I mean listen, you're talking to a bit of

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a niolist too, so does it really? I mean, I

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you understand nelism or not a nihilism.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's annis you're an nihilist. Nihilist yeah, one cheerful

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>lass nihilist.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, well, no, but like, yeah, you

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>have to be happy. But you know, the long and

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>short of it is, does this all really matter?

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think. I think it's kind of funny,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that's the funny part about life, is

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like does this all matter?

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's great to be what you want

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 1>to do and do what you want to do, like

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like you ghek man.

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's this two there's this two panel comic that

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I see all the time, and it's a guy who's uh,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 2>face down, shrouded in a cloud of rain, and the

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>caption says, nothing matters. And then next to it is

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 2>another guy and he's smiling and his hands are up

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>in the air and he's he's cheerful, and he goes

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 2>nothing matters, and you're you're the second guy.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm the second guy, exactly exactly.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, Mike, it was a really good, great pleasure talking

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 2>to you, man, geez, I, Uh, was there anything It's

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 2>okay if not. This was a fun conversation. But was

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>there anything in particular that you wanted to get off

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 2>your chest or talk about before we go?

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I don't know, I mean, I just you know,

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like you want me to tell you

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>about like a little bit about my life. I could,

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to extend my call. I

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>want to give other people a chance, So I'm gonna

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>just say, uh, you know, people be kind to each

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>other or find a balance in life, and you know,

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>keep watching you know Wild because he's awesome. And by

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the way, the Doja cat thing was awesome, dude, that

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>was then ethic, Like, you get these great guests.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 5>You know what, Mike, what's that?

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 2>You're my fucking hero?

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, no, you're my hero.

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 2>He I'm hanging up.

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>You take care of Mike, Thank you very much.

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>What a nice guy? What a what a nice fucking guy.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 2>What a nice fucking guy? I liked Mike. What else

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>do I have to say about Mike in this post

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 2>post call recap comments, I'm trying to say more about

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 2>about the calls after they end. I'm trying to say

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 2>more about the calls after they end. But it's because

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I've started putting these post call thoughts in the podcast.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 2>But it's kind of it always feels like, you know,

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>when you're trying to leave a voicemail and you like

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the thing beeps and you panic and you're like, I

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to say. That's how I feel every

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>time a phone call ends and I'm supposed to like

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>give post call thoughts on it is like, I don't

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 2>know what to say. I didn't prepare for this. I

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 2>only prepared to talk to another person. I wasn't prepared

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to just rant and have it forever be on someone

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 2>else's phone, let alone you know, thousands of people's phones

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. See, I've gone so far that I

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>don't even this post call thought isn't even about Mike anymore.

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>His name was Mike, right, thank god? Okay, I looked

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>at the chat. His name was Mike. Mike was a

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 2>cool guy. That's all I have to say. That's another

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 2>thing with these post call thoughts. I'm on a roll.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep going. I had a lot of coffee

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>before this, which is I don't know there's a correlation

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>between the amount of coffee that I have and how

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>alert I feel on these podcasts. But whatever this is,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 2>we're still going. We're putting all this in that, we're

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 2>keeping all of this in. All these post call thoughts

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 2>are going in. That's another thing about post call thoughts

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>is here's all I really have to say about that

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 2>call is that Mike was a nice guy. I liked Mike.

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a further right now. Actually, okay, we

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that. Why don't I give it

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>an analysis of why I liked I liked Mike because

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 2>he was a great Here's why I liked Mike. We're

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna analyze it. I liked Mike because he was a

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>gracious conversationalist. He allowed me to talk and responded in

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a way that really proved that he was listening and

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>paying attention. He was optimistic, positive person. That's the kind

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>of people we want to be around. Is that's that's

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>who you want in the life is a fucking war,

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and on your army, you want positive, optimistic people who

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 2>are ready to go into battle, such as Mike. He

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 2>was a positive, optimistic guy. He was a good conversationalist.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>What's the third final thing reason I liked Mike. Oh,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Mike gave me hope. That's why I liked Mike. He

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>gave me hope, you know, because I meant what I

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>said back there. I think, you know, my life also

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 2>feels like a very big trend up trend down, you know,

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 2>ups and downs things. But here's Mike fifty years old,

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 2>going through life, still kicking. I don't know. I imagine

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like living life year after year after year

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>after year. I imagine it tires on some you know,

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and so there is something or like I imagine that it'll

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 2>like like, by the time I reach fifty, I'll just

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>be like so tired.

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 2>And so when I talk to Mike, I'm like, I'm inspired.

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, maybe I won't be maybe I'll

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>still be able to do to you know, enjoy life

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and be kicking and doing stuff. So I liked Mike.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And if this was a voicemail, it'd be a very

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 2>long voicemail. I'm done. I got to take another call

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>or else. This post call thought is going to keep

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>going forever. But we're putting all this in the podcast

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and scene.

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 5>How from James?

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, what is your name?

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 5>You can call me James?

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>James? What's up, James? How's life? How can I get

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 2>you today? Oh?

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Not much?

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm actually it's funny. I actually was going to go

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 5>into see your podcast right now, actually, but I'm like, hey,

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 5>you're streaming, might as well try.

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Calling TFW you listen to the podcast, but then you

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 2>are the podcast.

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 5>That's basically it. Man, that's pretty what it is.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Well anyway, shit, uh what's swear?

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 5>Do you?

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Tell me? Tell me something anything at all about life,

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 2>about you?

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 5>About honest me. It's funny because whenever I have the

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 5>idea of calling you and having idea of like talking

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 5>to you, I always have all these ideas we have

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 5>to talk about, but never a precise life idea. I'd say,

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 5>I'd say one issue I'm having. I guess it is

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 5>more like nostalgia. I don't know if you ever have that,

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 5>like an issue with nostalgia.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 2>You have an issue with nostalgia? Yes, tell me more?

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 5>So it's like I would say that, like I let

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 5>nostalgia kind of like dictate some actions. That's been over

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 5>my life and it kind of ruined some friendships over

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 5>the years.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, interesting, tell me if you want to talk about it.

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 2>What's the get Let's get an example in here. What's

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 2>what's a time where you made a decision based off

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>of nostalgia?

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 5>Well, I would say, like to put it shortly, back

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 5>in eighth grade, I had a girl that I was

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 5>in love with who was my best friend, and I

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 5>just never told her about it. And so over the years,

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 5>as like time progress, we became a little distant but

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 5>also together in a way, so like long, this is

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 5>a friendship, but not also being too close to being

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 5>best friends anymore, okay. And so like over the years,

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 5>me and this girl, we've had mutual friends, we had

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 5>mutual like people we knew together. And so what ended

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 5>up happening was that as time progress, we just it's

0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 5>it apart. And so around i'd say twenty twenty, we

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 5>met back up. We had a mutual friend who said, hey,

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 5>let's hang out, you know, let's catch you back up

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 5>to speed. And so to me that was just like amazing,

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, let's hang out. Long story short. The energy

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 5>was just like very I would say, not, it's more

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 5>like intoxicating, like there's down. The whole feeling was just like, hey,

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 5>everyone consents that there's something between us around us.

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 2>You get okay, So here, okay, so here's this you

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>why why is this bad?

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 5>So let me get to that. So my issue was

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 5>that because of that, like I didn't realize like how

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 5>much I was putting myself into this situation. More like

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 5>me and this person, were like, oh, we're good friends,

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:52.919
<v Speaker 5>and we kind of wanted to keep it that way.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 5>But like for me, my nostalgia of just knowing this

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 5>person for all this years kind of came into the idea, Hey,

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm in love with you, but I never told her

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 5>about it, and that was the problem.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>So what's your name again, James? James? So you were okay?

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 2>And how old are you now?

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm twenty six? Guy from twenty six?

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Twenty six? Okay? And so you met you met a

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 2>lady in eighth grade that you were in love with,

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you meet up with her years later as

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a young adult, and when you meet her again, you're

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you're still the feelings, the passion that you had at

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 2>that age bubbles back up again. Am I correct?

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>And you design and is this this? And you decline

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>to tell her that you have these feelings for her.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And it gets more complicated than that, Actually, how.

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.919
<v Speaker 2>So how does it get more complicated? Because a lot

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 2>of the times things that apparently because I'll tell you something, James,

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something. A lot of times things that

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.879
<v Speaker 2>you think are complicated are kind of not. But what

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 2>the fuck do I know? Tell me why I gets

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>more component.

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 5>So basically, between the time of like eighth grade to

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 5>like twenty twenty, me and her sister actually became really

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 5>good friends and so like, even though me and the

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 5>main person weren't I'm talking as much, me and her

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 5>sister were becoming really good close friends. And that became

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 5>complicated because at some point the main friend was jealous

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 5>of our friendship and assuming things will happen between us.

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 5>I said, no, I don't really see her that same way,

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 5>and I didn't really want to enforce any like kind

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 5>of relationship kind of stuff like that. So for me,

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 5>it was like, I don't want to focus on that,

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.280
<v Speaker 5>like I'm cold just being friends. But then in twenty twenty,

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 5>when we all met up together, as out of all

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 5>these years, I didn't realize her sister was also in

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 5>love with me. Okay, so it was a weird like

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 5>triangle here without me having to really get involved with

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 5>that triangle as much, because even I told her sister, Hey,

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm in love with you, it was like my main friend,

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, and I haven't.

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Very funny to me. It's very funny to me that

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 2>this girl you met in middle school you are still

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>now as a man in his mid twenties, courting her

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 2>as you would a middle schooler.

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so yes and no. So to put it lightly, like,

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 5>as time progressed in twenty twenty, I was dealing with

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 5>my own emotion and stuff. I had a stocker at

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 5>the time, so like I was getting over that. And

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 5>when me and this person became friends again and like

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 5>re established our friendship, what ended up happening was that

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 5>we got really close. But the only issue was that

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 5>she was dating other people freely on a non monogamous way,

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 5>and so I was like, okay, you know, and for me,

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I was just like, I don't want to intervene with that,

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 5>because I shouldn't really intervene with someone else's happiness like that, okay,

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 5>And I was more like a martyr of myself. I

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 5>was saying, hey, well, I'd rather keep it quiet and

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 5>just not ruin our friendship even though I am in

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.320
<v Speaker 5>love with you. But that did cause its own.

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 2>So you did tell her you were and so you

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>did tell her you were in love with her.

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 5>No, what ended up happening was that as time progressed,

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 5>we got really close and we did have like one

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 5>or two like flings, but the minute we.

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Wait, so you so you did you guys fucked up?

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But it wasn't like we want It wasn't like

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 5>a like, oh, let's do this. It was like a

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 5>heat of the moment. We're just like we're hanging out

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 5>and you know, you know, let's just like mess around.

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 5>But that wasn't more like for me when I did that,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 5>I felt like, oh, my nostalgia fils just fucking left.

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 5>That whole thing just fucking dipped out, and I was like, oh,

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 5>I see the issue here, and it was like, oh,

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 5>my nostalgia was just like oh, here's my filter and

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 5>felt like oh this is Yeah.

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Look I'm I'm I'm only telling you this, and I

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>might be wrong and I might not have any nuance.

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm only telling you this, as you know, with the

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>information you've provided me as a completely outsider perspective who's

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 2>thought about your issue for a good you know, five

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 2>minutes that you've been telling it to me. But why

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 2>is this I still don't understand why this is so complicated.

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 5>So it's complicated because long story short, as we got

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 5>further along, like I said, you know what, let's not

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 5>have sex anymore. I don't want to do this anymore

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 5>I've done, and I just didn't feel comfortable. However, I

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 5>still felt like I was in love with her, but

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 5>that just made more issues towards it along line with

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 5>the whole kind of like her sister was like jealous

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<v Speaker 5>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 2>you a few questions to decomplicate things. Okay, James, does

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<v Speaker 2>this woman live in the same location as you?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, same city, Yeah.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 2>That would be the same location. Yes, Okay, is she?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>As of right now? I don't know?

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you in a relationship?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you like her?

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 5>I do, but we're no longer.

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Would you, and would you? Would it make you happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a relationship with her?

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<v Speaker 5>It would? Honestly?

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Have you told her that?

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.919
<v Speaker 5>I haven't? And it's hard to do so because so.

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Why is it hard to do so?

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<v Speaker 5>So basically, when I cut things off of her, she

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 5>started dating someone and she told the guy that me

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 5>and her had a flings here and then, and he

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 5>became very jussed about that and kind of cut her

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<v Speaker 5>off from hanging out with me or being friends with

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:58.479
<v Speaker 5>me in general. And so that caused a whole rift

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 5>of our friendship and kind of broke things off between us.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't talked to her for over a year at

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<v Speaker 5>this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you haven't talked to her for over a year.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so your relationship with her has sort of do

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<v Speaker 2>you I do you believe that you are both on

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe that you are on bad terms with

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<v Speaker 2>this woman?

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 5>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe she would be reciprocal to you reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out and attempting to talk to her?

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<v Speaker 5>It's funny because for her birthday, I don't know what

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 5>came over me, but it gave her like a happy

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 5>birthday and like in a bit of an apology for

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 5>how things went off between me and her, okay, And

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.439
<v Speaker 5>she just never replied back, and I was like, oh.

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right, So it sounds as though you

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 2>you reached, you know, out, and your reach out was

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 2>was was not reciprocated.

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I said, you know what, I think I

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 5>should just move on from that. And I kind of

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 5>just again, like it's not like I'm hung up over it.

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 5>It's more like it's just one of those things that

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 5>comes back to my back of my mind. Okay, and

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of bothers me a little bit on how things

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 5>went off with that. Okay, but I was, but it's

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 5>more like, you know what, it's better to move on

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 5>than having to.

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Just like James, you are severe. But I and I

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I know what I'm talking about here,

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and maybe I don't, but you're severely over complicating this.

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<v Speaker 5>I am sorry.

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So no, I don't. You don't have to apologize. No, no,

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to apologize. I really do you do?

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Really you don't. Sometimes I think just talking stuff out

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:35.280
<v Speaker 2>makes you realize you overcomplicated the To me, the point

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 2>is you reached out to this girl, uh uh, you know,

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 2>to try to kind of it sounds to try to

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of rekindle a relationship, and she was not reciprocal

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 2>to that. And at that point, you know, you you

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>take it, You take it, and you you move on.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's easy, so much easier said than done.

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Dear lord, Yeah, of course, so much easier second done.

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to pretend like it's that easy. It's

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 2>fucking not. It's not at all. And you know what

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I've been being a dick to you this

0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 2>whole call it's things are do get complicated things, hold on,

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 2>hold on, because things do here. And I'm saying this

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 2>because like I you know, things do get complicated, right,

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 2>but they all they also kind of aren't when you

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 2>zoom out, you know, yeah, of course, so you know, anyway,

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing now? Are you? Are you tindering?

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you what are you doing? Are you going out

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 2>on the town?

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Ah?

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 5>Well right now I'm trying to like go out there

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 5>more and like kind of date around. But like I'm

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.240
<v Speaker 5>kind of also like, hey, I'm cool with just being single.

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 5>Well wonderfully, I'm just cool just being thankful. Yeah, because

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 5>it's like, after all this shit I went through with

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 5>all that, I was like, I'm kind of cool being single,

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 5>but you know, the back of your mind just like

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 5>eat sat to you at what you did or what

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 5>you went through, and it's like, fuck, I kind of

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 5>want to move on from that, but it still kind

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 5>of comes back and hits you a little bit.

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, now we're just see now this isn't complicated

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:22.399
<v Speaker 2>at all.

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 5>This is just.

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 2>The question of how do you move how do you

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 2>get over someone?

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 5>Which well is normally you always ask the people who

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 5>out on the phone. They have therapy, and I had

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 5>taken therapy over it, and at some point me it

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 5>might think. Well, she was like, well, it's better to

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.320
<v Speaker 5>just move on from it, and I have, And honestly

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 5>it's been again since like I texted her a while ago,

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 5>like I got a year ago. I just kind of

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 5>moved on from it a little more. But it's still again.

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Little things will come up and I'm like, oh, well

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 5>I kind of missed that person, but also like, well,

0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 5>it's better to be moved on than having to like

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 5>had the nostalgia of this friendship in general. Kind of

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 5>stay with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Life's fucking crazy, James, Life fucking crazy, And ideally everything

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 2>would work out right and you'd be like one of

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>those uh, you know couples on the Instagram who you know,

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 2>they found each other and they got married and everything

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:28.320
<v Speaker 2>was beautiful. Right. That's sick, That's what that would be. Sick.

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But life's fucking crazy.

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to tell you. It really is,

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it really is.

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:36.399
<v Speaker 5>It's funny question.

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 2>You can ask me a question.

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 5>I know this is a little personal, but go ahead.

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 5>Have you ever like fully fell in love? Oh? Man,

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:51.760
<v Speaker 5>you could say no, you say whatever. Dude, that's fine,

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:53.760
<v Speaker 5>it's cool, man.

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about it. I I you know,

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. I was like, I like to be

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I really do. I like to be open been about

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 2>uh my like life and stuff. But I don't. I

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.840
<v Speaker 2>don't like doing it if in ways that like involve

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>other people. So I'm not going to answer that question.

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 5>Of course. Yeah, it's fine. No, it's cool, dude, it's fine.

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:15.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to push your buttons on that when

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, I.

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Mean, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. But life's fucking life's fucking

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 2>crazy and some things, you know, So it'd be great

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>if everything worked out amazingly forever all the time. And

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I think when it doesn't, you have this like idea

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that for everyone else's working out amazingly beautiful forever all

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the time, and for you it's not. But that's not true.

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I wish

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I had anything better to tell you than keep on

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 2>keeping on, But that's really the sauce.

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:55.359
<v Speaker 5>M No. Of course, one last question for you, guy.

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 5>I had this in mind for a while about if

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 5>you can time travel, where will you go too?

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:05.479
<v Speaker 2>If I could time travel? Yeah, i'd stay right the fuck. Actually,

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 2>i'd probably actually what, I would probably just use it

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 2>to make money. I would just go into the future

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and like see how much bitcoin's worth or whatever and

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 5>What do you even be like worth anything?

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>By then?

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.239
<v Speaker 5>I feel like crypto will like die off by then.

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why I would go in there. I would

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.800
<v Speaker 2>figure out I would use I would go into you

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 2>know how people did go into the future, like predict

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the lottery numbers and stuff. I would do something like that.

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about, Like, I don't want to know.

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I don't want to know stuff

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 2>about the future, you know, other than that. Yeah, and

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go back in time because what

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 2>am I gonna do there, you know, except fuck everything

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 2>up by killing a butterfly or an ant.

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they're not wrong. I would say, like as

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.240
<v Speaker 5>hard as to think about going in the future, about

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 5>fucking things up too, but also the past as well.

0:56:55.800 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Well. James, it's awesome. Take solace in this. No matter

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>what happens to you and your love life, you can

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 2>always sit in a dark room and jack off. That's

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 2>something that nobody will ever be able to take away

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 2>from you, and I hope he takes solace.

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 5>On that they're not wrong. Man, I'll do one for you, bro,

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 5>I got.

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 2>It, don't I mean you can do I was gonna say,

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.360
<v Speaker 2>don't do one for me, but if you really want,

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 2>if you, I mean, I can't stop. I cannot legally

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 2>stop you from thinking about me, uh while you jerk off.

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And I wouldn't want that power because your thoughts are

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a sacred place that no person or government or entity

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 2>should you know, be able to interfere with. So you

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 2>know it is your god given rights to think about

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 2>whatever and whoever when you jack off. So go do that, James,

0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 2>God bless you, and I'll see you around the universe.

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 5>No problem, Jack, I have a good one.

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Take care. He said he's gonna do it for me.

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Just he just comes and he's like for the gcko.

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 5>There, repeat get goes on the line taking your phone

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 5>calls every night.

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 1>The repeat cat goes doing his eye.

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Who's teaching you to.

0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 5>A house to live your life?

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 2>But he's not really an expert.