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Speaker 1: Is this the gag?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Who is this?

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Speaker 3: Uh we'll just we'll just we'll just call.

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Speaker 2: Me tea Tea. How old are you, Tea?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen?

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Speaker 2: Well, what's up, Tea?

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Speaker 3: Not much. I was just about, uh, just about a

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Speaker 3: load of bowl.

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Speaker 2: How can I get you today, sir?

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Speaker 3: Uh, I kind of got this. Uh, I kind of

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Speaker 3: got a really weird story. So fuck it's weird. I've

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Speaker 3: never told anybody this before. So when I was uh,

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Speaker 3: when I was fifteen, I went to this hotsprings with

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Speaker 3: my dad and like right as my parents were getting divorced,

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Speaker 3: to this hotsprings with my with my cousins and uh, right,

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Speaker 3: my female cousin that we have, she's like she like

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Speaker 3: we went with them or whatever. We were like fucking

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Speaker 3: We're like, you know, it was like a hot sping

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Speaker 3: was like a pool and like a hot from next

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Speaker 3: the fucking pool. And I was so kind of you know, young,

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Speaker 3: and she was fucking she told me I looked hot,

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Speaker 3: and I was so like brought off by that, and

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Speaker 3: back up to me and like told me she wanted to,

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Speaker 3: you know, do the deed, and uh basically short story,

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Speaker 2: All right now, Well it's her tea t Yeah yeah, look,

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Speaker 2: look he's I'm more than happy to have this conversation

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Speaker 2: with you, but I just like human being the human being. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: I just really really need to ask you if you're messing

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Speaker 2: with her right now, because it's like the number one

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Speaker 2: their cousin. It's like, I don't know why that's like

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Speaker 2: the time, it's like the boy who cried cousin fucking like,

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Speaker 2: it's the number one thing that people call in to

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Speaker 2: like make up. But I'm sure there are and I

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Speaker 2: actually did fuck their cousins that want to talk about

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Speaker 2: it because of all the people who make who like

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Speaker 2: make up stories about fucking their cousins. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you're which of those two people you are,

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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna trust you whichever of those two people

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Speaker 2: you say you are.

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Speaker 3: Well, like I'm I definitely did not make the story

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Speaker 3: of it. I feel like I've regretted it my whole

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Speaker 3: fucking life. Like there's like like I feel like I

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Speaker 3: just like suck my whole Like I feel like I

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily fuck my life though, but like kind of

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Speaker 3: fucked my sexual life because a little bit, because like

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Speaker 3: it's just you know, that's like what I especially like

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Speaker 3: when I listen to uh, this is kind of weird,

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Speaker 3: but like every time I listen to that one fucking

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Speaker 3: not jo is it a cool?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: That one song where he you know, he loses virginity

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Speaker 3: and they like passed the note through school and like

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Speaker 3: that every fucking time that song comes up on my playlist,

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Speaker 3: that like that instant just fucking pops in my head

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Speaker 3: that my first time was fucking my cousin. I just

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Speaker 2: I don't don't what what don't? First of all, I

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Speaker 2: don't like the chat. Second about so tea A couple

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Speaker 2: of questions mm hmm, first cousin or second cousin.

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Speaker 3: Uh. So she's my my dad's first cousin's kids. I

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Speaker 3: think that makes for my seconds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she's not like your dad's brother's daughter. No, no, no, no, no, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, So she was your dad's cousin's daughter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and this was three years ago, yeah.

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Speaker 1: About four.

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Speaker 3: Well it happened. I think it happened. Well, my parents

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Speaker 3: got divorced in twenty late twenty twenty, at the end

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean, look, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's good. I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: sign off. Yeah, look, I look, well I don't look. Ideally,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna have sex with someone, they would not

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Speaker 2: be your cousin. But if but second cousin, at the least,

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Speaker 2: it's at least it is better. It is better than

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Speaker 2: first cousin. It could be worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, I did. I wouldn't. I did wrap

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Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't direct skin contact. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it was there. Can I how I see

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Speaker 2: you were what you were fourteen and fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how old?

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Speaker 3: Well we're the same age. She's born like a couple

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Speaker 3: of months before.

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Speaker 2: I am okay, you're yeah. Do you ever like, do

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Speaker 2: you ever see her like at like stuffy?

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Speaker 3: So she's on my dad's side, so and my parents

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Speaker 3: got divorced, and I don't. I don't see my dad anymore.

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Speaker 3: So I don't see her at all, Like I haven't

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Speaker 3: and even everyone time I did seear, I just fucking

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Speaker 3: turned the hallway. I would have voiter as well as

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Speaker 2: Just you're being one hundred percent serious, right, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: swear to God. Okay, I believe you. I really do.

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Speaker 2: I I I try not to have this sounds real

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Speaker 2: like you. I feel like i've anyway whatever you're telling

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Speaker 2: the Chews, I believe you. Have you ever told anyone

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Speaker 2: else about this?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I feel so like I'm so shaky right now, like

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Speaker 3: I I've never told anybody this, And I like even

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Speaker 3: when people ask me what my first time was, I

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Speaker 3: just told him I met some girl at Hotspring, like

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Speaker 3: I told him. I just met some girl at Hosprings

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Speaker 3: and it was random girl I met at Hot Springs.

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Speaker 3: We just hooked up, and that is that the first time?

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Speaker 2: Was that the first time you ever met her?

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Speaker 3: No, we known each other for a little while before that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you ever you ever go to a therapy

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Speaker 2: to talk about this or you've literally this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're the first kind of therapy. I've brought

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Speaker 3: this the first time I've ever gotten it off my chairs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well let's I mean, I have a few questions,

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Speaker 2: But how does it feel to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 1: Better?

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Speaker 3: I think I feel a little little more.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I mean, look, you're not the

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Speaker 2: first guy to have sex with uh, their second cousin.

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Speaker 2: They do that. These that there was a time in

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Speaker 2: in America. This is I'm making this up, but I

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Speaker 2: also I'm making this up, but it comes from a

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Speaker 2: place that is is there's a kernel of truth. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a period of time in human society

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Speaker 2: where more people's sexual partners were their second cousins than not.

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Speaker 3: Right, I got to keep it in the bloodline.

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Speaker 2: I think. I don't know if that's true, and don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. It see. It sounds

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Speaker 2: like it makes sense though, because people didn't used to,

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Speaker 2: you know when back when people like you know, and

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Speaker 2: they lived in like tribes and stuff. Like when people

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Speaker 2: their cousins all the time, you know, right, So you're

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Speaker 2: not the first guy to do that, so you know,

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Speaker 2: don't you don't have to feel that weird?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not the first guy in history, I guess. And

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Speaker 3: maybe I mean, like the you know, royals used to

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Speaker 3: me and I maybe my ancestors are proud of me

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Speaker 3: or something.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're making this up. Are you making

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Speaker 2: this up? No? Okay, right, I believe I believe you.

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Speaker 2: I believe you. No, no, no, you don't be sorry.

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Speaker 5: I believe you.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. It's just I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's fucking I feel like I just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I fucked up my first time, Like

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Speaker 3: I like now, looking back at it, I wish I

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Speaker 3: just never I mean I wish I didn't do a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff in my life. You can't really be

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Speaker 3: regretful about it, but I didn't.

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Speaker 2: You're you're you're only eighteen, man, You're it's too young

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Speaker 2: to have so many crazy regrets.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's because weird, you know, talking to somebody

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Speaker 2: Tell me why, you let's get into this real quick,

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Speaker 2: I mean what, so tell me why this seats awagh

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Speaker 2: at you? Like obviously you know it's not a socially

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Speaker 2: into it. I mean why, let's get into your feelings

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Speaker 2: like what, tell me more about your feelings about this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I came up from like

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Speaker 3: my high school years, I lived in like this smaller town,

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Speaker 3: and you know, like anything like uh drama related like that,

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Speaker 3: especially if the cot wind just the slides, everybody would know,

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Speaker 3: like everybody in the whole fucking town would know what

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Speaker 5: Mm hm.

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Speaker 3: So it could be some of that, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Look, man, you know, first of all, I mean you

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Speaker 2: were four. First of all, I don't I kind of

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Speaker 2: think anything that you did with your life before, anything

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Speaker 2: you did with your life before you I mean you

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Speaker 2: were fourteen when this happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, unless if you like killed somebody, kind of anything

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Speaker 2: you did with your life before you were eighteen, you're fine,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: M hm.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I think you can. You can, you can,

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Speaker 2: you can get you can get it, you can get it.

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Speaker 2: I think you can have a clean slate with this one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's kind of not been eating me

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Speaker 3: as much, especially because I moved out of the state

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Speaker 3: that where she lives at and stuff like that, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like six hundred miles away from her now,

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Speaker 3: and it's not like it's kind of in the back

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Speaker 3: of my mind. But just like like I said, like

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Speaker 3: some times, like especially when I'm at like work, I

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Speaker 3: have my music in like that, I'm pretty sure it's

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Speaker 3: that Jake Cole. I'm kind of nervous right now, so

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Speaker 3: I'm just kind of my mind is kind of racing

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Speaker 3: a little bit. But I fuck, I forget what it's called.

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Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm talking Like that one song

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Speaker 3: where he's like passing notes with his fucking chick or whatever,

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Speaker 3: and he's talking about his first time. Like every single

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Speaker 3: their first time having sex, it always just like pops

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Speaker 1: I have literally, oh honestly, you know what, I have

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Speaker 1: You know, But you show pretty much anybody you can

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Speaker 1: and yeah about it.

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00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: Thanks for being so nice to me. Nothing about me.

440
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm curious about you. So you're you're you're you turn

441
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: just turned fifty.

442
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm turning fifty.

443
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: This name? Man, what's it? So it's interesting because I

444
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 2: mean mostly I talked to I feel like I'd like

445
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: to think like like anecdotally, you know, it seems as

446
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: though we have a wide age range of people you know,

447
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: coming in on this on this, on this thing. But

448
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, when I go when I look at like

449
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: my analytics and stuff, it is it's mainly like eighteen

450
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: to thirty, you know, So what what's.

451
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm an outlife?

452
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: What's going on at fifty. What's happening, how you're feeling,

453
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: how you're thinking, how's life, what's what's what can you

454
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 2: tell us?

455
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, you know it's it's fun, you know. I mean,

456
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm on multi you know, many depressant medications and you know, kids, divorced,

457
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: all the fun stuff. But but you know, I manage

458
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: my life. I go with therapy. You know it's good.

459
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: You know, people should go to their therapy. They should,

460
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think that.

461
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: So now, actually you go ahead, go ahead and finish.

462
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: I'll say I'll say my questions to the end.

463
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I was just gonna say that.

464
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think everybody should, you know, uh, find

465
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: their own path. But don't you know ever stop working

466
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: on yourself. You know that's what I do.

467
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you something. It's a little crazy,

468
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: but uh, I feel like it's good for I'm just

469
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: going to say it because I think it's only fair

470
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: to like let people know where I'm at. Sometimes I

471
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: I've been like fair, like I've been in kind of

472
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: like a crazy depression for a bit and I have.

473
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: So have you like been depressed for like your whole life?

474
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: Would you consider yourself like have depression.

475
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah, I'll diagnosed for sure. Oh yeah, diagnosed

476
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah.

477
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: So, like I've been in a crazy depression and I

478
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: kind of like, bruh, this is kind of dark. But

479
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: I thought to myself kind of recently, like, dude, you know,

480
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: if every day is gonna feel like this for the

481
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: rest of my life, like I don't know if it's

482
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: like worth it, you know what I mean. And because like,

483
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: because like I'm twenty I'm twenty six, and I used

484
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: to have this idea in my mind that like when

485
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: I turned the thirty I would like explode like that

486
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: actually wouldn't even be like like that that like the

487
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: reality of me getting older doesn't even exist. I'm not

488
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: I'm not saying like I'm just gonna tell myself. I'm saying, like,

489
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: it doesn't. It's not I don't think about.

490
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't like past a certain time. Yeah, and

491
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: you oh, dude.

492
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious what your perspective is because your fifty,

493
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: so you've been dealing with depression for you know, twice

494
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: as long as I have. What's what's up? What's your take,

495
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: What's what's your thoughts, what's your feelings? Had you overcome it?

496
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean it's just basically keep it a

497
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: positive attitude. That's all I've done.

498
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: Dude.

499
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: I finally went on Okay, so you know, I did

500
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: go on the meds because it was getting kind of

501
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: like a little bad where you know, when you feel

502
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: those depressive thoughts where you know, self harm or any

503
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Dude, you got to see a doctor

504
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: or a psychologist and get on some meds, you know, quickly,

505
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: because that'll help you turn things around. And that's why

506
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: I did, you know, And I'm still learning, you know.

507
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: Every day I just try to stay positive, you know,

508
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: take care of my self. How much balance do you

509
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: have between the computer and like touching.

510
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: Graph I'm trying. I mean it's hard because I, like,

511
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, what I do is on the computer, but

512
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: also a lot of what I a lot of what

513
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: I do is not on the computer, you know, like

514
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: the show in fucking Syracuse. I I am easily easily

515
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: happiest when I'm uh in front of you know, actual

516
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: human being.

517
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

518
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: I get so here. I'm curious about this because this

519
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: is something I've been talking to a friend a lot

520
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: about this because the whole like meds and therapy thing

521
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: like I've been so like when I get really depressed,

522
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: I kind of think to myself, like, Okay, I'm pretty

523
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: sure that all of this is due to external like life,

524
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like there's something fixed

525
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: like either like whatever, like uh, you know, interpersonal relationships

526
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 2: are fucked up, or like career stuff is like fucked up,

527
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: or like like you can actually peg it to something

528
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: external in your life. And and I've tried to like

529
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: figure this out, like is it is happiness and not

530
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: being depressed like a symptom of like your literal brain

531
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: chemistry that like medication can fix or that you know

532
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 2: have meditation and perspective can fix. Or is it literally

533
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: like nah, dude, you got to like unfuck your actual

534
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: like life and make actual different changes to your life.

535
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: And I go very back and forth on it because

536
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: I've I've had a lot of you know, I have

537
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: a lot of things in my life right now that

538
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: I think would you know, I I at one point

539
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: really wanted and so if I just shifted my perspective

540
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: to be more grateful for the things I have, I

541
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: think I'd be happier. But then on another point. I

542
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: do look at a lot of aspects of my external life,

543
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, that looks like I'm looking at

544
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: my fucking room right now, and it looks hilarious like this,

545
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: there's gecko suits straddled and upon this underwear in my sink. Bro, Like,

546
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: there's you know, stuff to be well. I mean, you're here.

547
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: Let's say you gotta roll it back, though, dude, you

548
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: gotta roll it back.

549
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Let's roll it back here, be realistic. You are a

550
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: twenty something year old single dude, right, It's true. No

551
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: one's expecting you not to have your underwear strewn about

552
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: the house. Okay. When I was twenty seven, dude, the

553
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: underwear was everywhere. So you're good. You're good there. Don't

554
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: worry about being slaw Yeah.

555
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's just me that I meant that to say.

556
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: And and the the underwear in my sink is is

557
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: a is a microcosm of the underwear of my sink.

558
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: Is is like a metaphor for just like external things

559
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: being like fucked up. And so basically what I'm getting

560
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: at is like I'm trying to Basically what I'm getting

561
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: at is simply how I'm trying to determine how much

562
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: of my unhappiness is based upon things wrong in my

563
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: external life or things wrong in my internal brain chemistry

564
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: and perspective. And I'm curious what your death take is

565
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: on that.

566
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: I honestly think it's like a mix, right, Yeah, I

567
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: think I've been using both. I've been using the CP

568
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: what they call the CPT, the cognitive behavioral therapy and medication,

569
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: and they and they both worked. You know, I got

570
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: through a divorce. I also, you know, I do things

571
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: outside like you. I do things outside of my regular

572
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: work too, you know, like I'll do I take I

573
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: have a specific thing that I do for exercise that

574
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: I'll do or you know, I don't know, I just

575
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: set up a routine, you know, people and kids, Like

576
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: maybe kids were the one thing that kind of helped

577
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: me through some of this too, dude. Yeah, It's like

578
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: when I had kids and you know, relate, you know,

579
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: regular relationships. Finally, you know, it took a while, but

580
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, when I finally got there, I was able to,

581
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, uh, find some more balance in my life

582
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: by exerting different you know, taking the energy off me

583
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: a little bit and putting it up on you know,

584
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: my family and the people who are close to me.

585
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well how old are you?

586
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Used to take a more Buddhist approach to life, and

587
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: now I'm taking like a more Buddhist approach to life.

588
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very I try to make a giving

589
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: thing every day. You know. I try to be kind

590
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: to people.

591
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 5: You know.

592
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: I know the Internet is a shits pool of of

593
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: of fun, you know, but it's you know, I try

594
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: to be I try to be nice as possible, but

595
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm also kind of sarcastic. So you know, the Internet

596
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: is perfect for me.

597
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: So how old were you when you started your family.

598
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: I was in my thirties. Yeah, like my thirties something.

599
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: So what were you doing? So in your twenties, what

600
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: were you doing? Were you just like bumming around? What

601
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: are you doing?

602
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was going to Yeah, I was going to college.

603
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: You know. I lived in a bunch of places. I

604
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: lived in Baltimore, I lived in Philly. I lived Yeah,

605
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: I lived a bunch of places, you know, just traveling around.

606
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: I like to travel, you know, go go places. So

607
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: I just with the you know, follow girlfriends here and

608
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: there too. You know. That's the other thing that I

609
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: haven't been great at is relationships. So but now like

610
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I finally at me in my fifty

611
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: and finally like at that point where I can be

612
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: good at relationships.

613
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: Why why do you think you weren't good at relationships?

614
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's a good question. Just

615
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: like early life stuff happened, I don't, you know, like

616
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: everybody has got life stories, you know. So I think

617
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: that probably my early lifehood stuff when I was growing

618
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: up as a teenager or a young one kind of

619
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: impacted my adulthood, you know. But I kind of like

620
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: late loomed in college in the finished until it was

621
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: like twenty five or whatever. Hell man, I just paid

622
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: off my student loans.

623
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh congratulations, gee, I meant, yeah, gratulations.

624
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: We took me twenty five years.

625
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, crazy, what did you major in?

626
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: I have a two year degree at radio and television

627
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: and a business degree.

628
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's crazy that it that it it

629
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: takes that long.

630
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 5: Yep.

631
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I was just you know, I was

632
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: kind of doing it on my own two you know.

633
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: So, how do you feel as though you've gotten better

634
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: at relationships?

635
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, the I mean, honestly, the therapy you know,

636
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: like talking through things. You know, my therapist has kind

637
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: of guided me through things as its kind of like

638
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: a life coach, you know what I mean. So been

639
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: guiding me through you know, when I'm being an asshole

640
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: or when I'm you know, doing the right thing or

641
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: the wrong thing. You know, that's been helpful.

642
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 5: M hm.

643
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: So having some guidance you.

644
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: Know, Well are you are you? Are you happy now? Oh?

645
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

646
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm I'm much happier now.

647
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

648
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm my own boss and uh, you know, I

649
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: love it.

650
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: Do you think has your life gotten better every year?

651
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: Or is it has it kind of been like a

652
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: like an up and down chart or like has it

653
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: kind of been like.

654
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's enough. Yeah it's not. It's not like

655
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: even for me.

656
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: No, man, But does it But does it trend upwards

657
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: over over time?

658
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

659
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

660
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Sure?

661
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: Sure?

662
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Sure. I mean listen, you're talking to a bit of

663
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: a niolist too, so does it really? I mean, I

664
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you understand nelism or not a nihilism.

665
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Maybe that's annis you're an nihilist. Nihilist yeah, one cheerful

666
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: lass nihilist.

667
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, well, no, but like, yeah, you

668
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: have to be happy. But you know, the long and

669
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: short of it is, does this all really matter?

670
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 5: You know?

671
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: And that's why I think. I think it's kind of funny,

672
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's the funny part about life, is

673
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: like does this all matter?

674
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: No?

675
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: So that's why it's great to be what you want

676
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: to do and do what you want to do, like

677
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: like you ghek man.

678
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: Well, there's this two there's this two panel comic that

679
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: I see all the time, and it's a guy who's uh,

680
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: face down, shrouded in a cloud of rain, and the

681
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: caption says, nothing matters. And then next to it is

682
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: another guy and he's smiling and his hands are up

683
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: in the air and he's he's cheerful, and he goes

684
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: nothing matters, and you're you're the second guy.

685
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the second guy, exactly exactly.

686
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, it was a really good, great pleasure talking

687
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: to you, man, geez, I, Uh, was there anything It's

688
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: okay if not. This was a fun conversation. But was

689
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: there anything in particular that you wanted to get off

690
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: your chest or talk about before we go?

691
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know, I mean, I just you know,

692
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you want me to tell you

693
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: about like a little bit about my life. I could,

694
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to extend my call. I

695
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: want to give other people a chance, So I'm gonna

696
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: just say, uh, you know, people be kind to each

697
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: other or find a balance in life, and you know,

698
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: keep watching you know Wild because he's awesome. And by

699
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the way, the Doja cat thing was awesome, dude, that

700
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: was then ethic, Like, you get these great guests.

701
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: You know what, Mike, what's that?

702
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: You're my fucking hero?

703
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: All right, no, you're my hero.

704
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: He I'm hanging up.

705
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: You take care of Mike, Thank you very much.

706
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: What a nice guy? What a what a nice fucking guy.

707
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: What a nice fucking guy? I liked Mike. What else

708
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: do I have to say about Mike in this post

709
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: post call recap comments, I'm trying to say more about

710
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: about the calls after they end. I'm trying to say

711
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: more about the calls after they end. But it's because

712
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: I've started putting these post call thoughts in the podcast.

713
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: But it's kind of it always feels like, you know,

714
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: when you're trying to leave a voicemail and you like

715
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: the thing beeps and you panic and you're like, I

716
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: don't know what to say. That's how I feel every

717
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: time a phone call ends and I'm supposed to like

718
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: give post call thoughts on it is like, I don't

719
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: know what to say. I didn't prepare for this. I

720
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: only prepared to talk to another person. I wasn't prepared

721
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: to just rant and have it forever be on someone

722
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: else's phone, let alone you know, thousands of people's phones

723
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: on this podcast. See, I've gone so far that I

724
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: don't even this post call thought isn't even about Mike anymore.

725
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: His name was Mike, right, thank god? Okay, I looked

726
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: at the chat. His name was Mike. Mike was a

727
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 2: cool guy. That's all I have to say. That's another

728
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: thing with these post call thoughts. I'm on a roll.

729
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep going. I had a lot of coffee

730
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: before this, which is I don't know there's a correlation

731
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: between the amount of coffee that I have and how

732
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: alert I feel on these podcasts. But whatever this is,

733
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: we're still going. We're putting all this in that, we're

734
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: keeping all of this in. All these post call thoughts

735
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: are going in. That's another thing about post call thoughts

736
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: is here's all I really have to say about that

737
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 2: call is that Mike was a nice guy. I liked Mike.

738
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't have a further right now. Actually, okay, we

739
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: don't want to do that. Why don't I give it

740
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: an analysis of why I liked I liked Mike because

741
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: he was a great Here's why I liked Mike. We're

742
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: gonna analyze it. I liked Mike because he was a

743
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: gracious conversationalist. He allowed me to talk and responded in

744
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: a way that really proved that he was listening and

745
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: paying attention. He was optimistic, positive person. That's the kind

746
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: of people we want to be around. Is that's that's

747
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: who you want in the life is a fucking war,

748
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: and on your army, you want positive, optimistic people who

749
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: are ready to go into battle, such as Mike. He

750
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: was a positive, optimistic guy. He was a good conversationalist.

751
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: What's the third final thing reason I liked Mike. Oh,

752
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: Mike gave me hope. That's why I liked Mike. He

753
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: gave me hope, you know, because I meant what I

754
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: said back there. I think, you know, my life also

755
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: feels like a very big trend up trend down, you know,

756
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: ups and downs things. But here's Mike fifty years old,

757
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: going through life, still kicking. I don't know. I imagine

758
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: I'm just like living life year after year after year

759
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: after year. I imagine it tires on some you know,

760
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: and so there is something or like I imagine that it'll

761
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: like like, by the time I reach fifty, I'll just

762
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: be like so tired.

763
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: You know.

764
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: And so when I talk to Mike, I'm like, I'm inspired.

765
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, maybe I won't be maybe I'll

766
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: still be able to do to you know, enjoy life

767
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: and be kicking and doing stuff. So I liked Mike.

768
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: And if this was a voicemail, it'd be a very

769
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: long voicemail. I'm done. I got to take another call

770
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: or else. This post call thought is going to keep

771
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: going forever. But we're putting all this in the podcast

772
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: and scene.

773
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: How from James?

774
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, what is your name?

775
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 5: You can call me James?

776
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: James? What's up, James? How's life? How can I get

777
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: you today? Oh?

778
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Not much?

779
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: I'm actually it's funny. I actually was going to go

780
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: into see your podcast right now, actually, but I'm like, hey,

781
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 5: you're streaming, might as well try.

782
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: Calling TFW you listen to the podcast, but then you

783
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: are the podcast.

784
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: That's basically it. Man, that's pretty what it is.

785
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: Well anyway, shit, uh what's swear?

786
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: Do you?

787
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: Uh? Tell me? Tell me something anything at all about life,

788
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: about you?

789
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: About honest me. It's funny because whenever I have the

790
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: idea of calling you and having idea of like talking

791
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 5: to you, I always have all these ideas we have

792
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 5: to talk about, but never a precise life idea. I'd say,

793
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: I'd say one issue I'm having. I guess it is

794
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: more like nostalgia. I don't know if you ever have that,

795
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: like an issue with nostalgia.

796
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: You have an issue with nostalgia? Yes, tell me more?

797
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

798
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 5: So it's like I would say that, like I let

799
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: nostalgia kind of like dictate some actions. That's been over

800
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 5: my life and it kind of ruined some friendships over

801
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 5: the years.

802
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting, tell me if you want to talk about it.

803
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: What's the get Let's get an example in here. What's

804
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: what's a time where you made a decision based off

805
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: of nostalgia?

806
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 5: Well, I would say, like to put it shortly, back

807
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 5: in eighth grade, I had a girl that I was

808
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 5: in love with who was my best friend, and I

809
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: just never told her about it. And so over the years,

810
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: as like time progress, we became a little distant but

811
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 5: also together in a way, so like long, this is

812
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: a friendship, but not also being too close to being

813
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 5: best friends anymore, okay. And so like over the years,

814
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: me and this girl, we've had mutual friends, we had

815
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 5: mutual like people we knew together. And so what ended

816
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: up happening was that as time progress, we just it's

817
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: it apart. And so around i'd say twenty twenty, we

818
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 5: met back up. We had a mutual friend who said, hey,

819
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 5: let's hang out, you know, let's catch you back up

820
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 5: to speed. And so to me that was just like amazing,

821
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, let's hang out. Long story short. The energy

822
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 5: was just like very I would say, not, it's more

823
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 5: like intoxicating, like there's down. The whole feeling was just like, hey,

824
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: everyone consents that there's something between us around us.

825
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: You get okay, So here, okay, so here's this you

826
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: why why is this bad?

827
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: So let me get to that. So my issue was

828
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 5: that because of that, like I didn't realize like how

829
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: much I was putting myself into this situation. More like

830
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: me and this person, were like, oh, we're good friends,

831
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 5: and we kind of wanted to keep it that way.

832
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 5: But like for me, my nostalgia of just knowing this

833
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 5: person for all this years kind of came into the idea, Hey,

834
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 5: I'm in love with you, but I never told her

835
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: about it, and that was the problem.

836
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: So what's your name again, James? James? So you were okay?

837
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: And how old are you now?

838
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 5: I'm twenty six? Guy from twenty six?

839
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: Twenty six? Okay? And so you met you met a

840
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: lady in eighth grade that you were in love with,

841
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: and then you meet up with her years later as

842
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: a young adult, and when you meet her again, you're

843
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: you're still the feelings, the passion that you had at

844
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: that age bubbles back up again. Am I correct?

845
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

846
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: And you design and is this this? And you decline

847
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: to tell her that you have these feelings for her.

848
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. And it gets more complicated than that, Actually, how.

849
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 2: So how does it get more complicated? Because a lot

850
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: of the times things that apparently because I'll tell you something, James,

851
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something. A lot of times things that

852
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: you think are complicated are kind of not. But what

853
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: the fuck do I know? Tell me why I gets

854
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: more component.

855
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 5: So basically, between the time of like eighth grade to

856
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: like twenty twenty, me and her sister actually became really

857
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: good friends and so like, even though me and the

858
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: main person weren't I'm talking as much, me and her

859
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: sister were becoming really good close friends. And that became

860
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 5: complicated because at some point the main friend was jealous

861
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 5: of our friendship and assuming things will happen between us.

862
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: I said, no, I don't really see her that same way,

863
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 5: and I didn't really want to enforce any like kind

864
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: of relationship kind of stuff like that. So for me,

865
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 5: it was like, I don't want to focus on that,

866
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 5: like I'm cold just being friends. But then in twenty twenty,

867
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 5: when we all met up together, as out of all

868
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: these years, I didn't realize her sister was also in

869
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: love with me. Okay, so it was a weird like

870
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: triangle here without me having to really get involved with

871
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: that triangle as much, because even I told her sister, Hey,

872
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 5: I'm in love with you, it was like my main friend,

873
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: you know, and I haven't.

874
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: Very funny to me. It's very funny to me that

875
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: this girl you met in middle school you are still

876
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: now as a man in his mid twenties, courting her

877
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: as you would a middle schooler.

878
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yes and no. So to put it lightly, like,

879
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: as time progressed in twenty twenty, I was dealing with

880
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: my own emotion and stuff. I had a stocker at

881
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: the time, so like I was getting over that. And

882
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 5: when me and this person became friends again and like

883
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: re established our friendship, what ended up happening was that

884
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 5: we got really close. But the only issue was that

885
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 5: she was dating other people freely on a non monogamous way,

886
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: and so I was like, okay, you know, and for me,

887
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: I was just like, I don't want to intervene with that,

888
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: because I shouldn't really intervene with someone else's happiness like that, okay,

889
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 5: And I was more like a martyr of myself. I

890
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: was saying, hey, well, I'd rather keep it quiet and

891
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 5: just not ruin our friendship even though I am in

892
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 5: love with you. But that did cause its own.

893
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: So you did tell her you were and so you

894
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: did tell her you were in love with her.

895
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: No, what ended up happening was that as time progressed,

896
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: we got really close and we did have like one

897
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: or two like flings, but the minute we.

898
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: Wait, so you so you did you guys fucked up?

899
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, But it wasn't like we want It wasn't like

900
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 5: a like, oh, let's do this. It was like a

901
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 5: heat of the moment. We're just like we're hanging out

902
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 5: and you know, you know, let's just like mess around.

903
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 5: But that wasn't more like for me when I did that,

904
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 5: I felt like, oh, my nostalgia fils just fucking left.

905
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: That whole thing just fucking dipped out, and I was like, oh,

906
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: I see the issue here, and it was like, oh,

907
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 5: my nostalgia was just like oh, here's my filter and

908
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 5: felt like oh this is Yeah.

909
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Look I'm I'm I'm only telling you this, and I

910
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: might be wrong and I might not have any nuance.

911
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm only telling you this, as you know, with the

912
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: information you've provided me as a completely outsider perspective who's

913
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: thought about your issue for a good you know, five

914
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: minutes that you've been telling it to me. But why

915
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: is this I still don't understand why this is so complicated.

916
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: So it's complicated because long story short, as we got

917
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 5: further along, like I said, you know what, let's not

918
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 5: have sex anymore. I don't want to do this anymore

919
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: I've done, and I just didn't feel comfortable. However, I

920
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: still felt like I was in love with her, but

921
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 5: that just made more issues towards it along line with

922
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: the whole kind of like her sister was like jealous

923
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: of that.

924
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask

925
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: you a few questions to decomplicate things. Okay, James, does

926
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: this woman live in the same location as you?

927
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: Well, same city, Yeah.

928
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: That would be the same location. Yes, Okay, is she?

929
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: Is she in a relationship.

930
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 5: As of right now? I don't know?

931
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: Okay, are you in a relationship?

932
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 5: I'm not.

933
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: Do you like her?

934
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: I do, but we're no longer.

935
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: Would you, and would you? Would it make you happy

936
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: to be in a relationship with her?

937
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: It would? Honestly?

938
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: Have you told her that?

939
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 5: I haven't? And it's hard to do so because so.

940
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: Why is it hard to do so?

941
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 5: So basically, when I cut things off of her, she

942
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 5: started dating someone and she told the guy that me

943
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 5: and her had a flings here and then, and he

944
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 5: became very jussed about that and kind of cut her

945
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 5: off from hanging out with me or being friends with

946
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 5: me in general. And so that caused a whole rift

947
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 5: of our friendship and kind of broke things off between us.

948
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 5: I haven't talked to her for over a year at

949
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: this point.

950
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: Oh, you haven't talked to her for over a year.

951
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

952
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so your relationship with her has sort of do

953
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: you I do you believe that you are both on

954
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: Do you believe that you are on bad terms with

955
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: this woman?

956
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: I do?

957
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: Do you believe she would be reciprocal to you reaching

958
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: out and attempting to talk to her?

959
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 5: It's funny because for her birthday, I don't know what

960
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 5: came over me, but it gave her like a happy

961
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 5: birthday and like in a bit of an apology for

962
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 5: how things went off between me and her, okay, And

963
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 5: she just never replied back, and I was like, oh.

964
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, So it sounds as though you

965
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: you reached, you know, out, and your reach out was

966
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: was was not reciprocated.

967
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I said, you know what, I think I

968
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: should just move on from that. And I kind of

969
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 5: just again, like it's not like I'm hung up over it.

970
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 5: It's more like it's just one of those things that

971
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: comes back to my back of my mind. Okay, and

972
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: kind of bothers me a little bit on how things

973
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: went off with that. Okay, but I was, but it's

974
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 5: more like, you know what, it's better to move on

975
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 5: than having to.

976
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: Just like James, you are severe. But I and I

977
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: don't know if I know what I'm talking about here,

978
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: and maybe I don't, but you're severely over complicating this.

979
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 5: I am sorry.

980
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: So no, I don't. You don't have to apologize. No, no,

981
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to apologize. I really do you do?

982
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: Really you don't. Sometimes I think just talking stuff out

983
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: makes you realize you overcomplicated the To me, the point

984
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: is you reached out to this girl, uh uh, you know,

985
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: to try to kind of it sounds to try to

986
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: kind of rekindle a relationship, and she was not reciprocal

987
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: to that. And at that point, you know, you you

988
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: take it, You take it, and you you move on.

989
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, it's easy, so much easier said than done.

990
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: Dear lord, Yeah, of course, so much easier second done.

991
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to pretend like it's that easy. It's

992
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: fucking not. It's not at all. And you know what

993
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I've been being a dick to you this

994
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: whole call it's things are do get complicated things, hold on,

995
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: hold on, because things do here. And I'm saying this

996
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: because like I you know, things do get complicated, right,

997
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: but they all they also kind of aren't when you

998
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: zoom out, you know, yeah, of course, so you know, anyway,

999
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: what are you doing now? Are you? Are you tindering?

1000
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: Are you what are you doing? Are you going out

1001
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: on the town?

1002
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: Ah?

1003
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 5: Well right now I'm trying to like go out there

1004
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 5: more and like kind of date around. But like I'm

1005
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 5: kind of also like, hey, I'm cool with just being single.

1006
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 5: Well wonderfully, I'm just cool just being thankful. Yeah, because

1007
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 5: it's like, after all this shit I went through with

1008
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 5: all that, I was like, I'm kind of cool being single,

1009
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: but you know, the back of your mind just like

1010
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 5: eat sat to you at what you did or what

1011
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: you went through, and it's like, fuck, I kind of

1012
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 5: want to move on from that, but it still kind

1013
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: of comes back and hits you a little bit.

1014
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, well, now we're just see now this isn't complicated

1015
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: at all.

1016
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 5: This is just.

1017
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: The question of how do you move how do you

1018
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: get over someone?

1019
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 5: Which well is normally you always ask the people who

1020
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 5: out on the phone. They have therapy, and I had

1021
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 5: taken therapy over it, and at some point me it

1022
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 5: might think. Well, she was like, well, it's better to

1023
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 5: just move on from it, and I have, And honestly

1024
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: it's been again since like I texted her a while ago,

1025
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 5: like I got a year ago. I just kind of

1026
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 5: moved on from it a little more. But it's still again.

1027
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: Little things will come up and I'm like, oh, well

1028
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 5: I kind of missed that person, but also like, well,

1029
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 5: it's better to be moved on than having to like

1030
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 5: had the nostalgia of this friendship in general. Kind of

1031
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 5: stay with you.

1032
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: Life's fucking crazy, James, Life fucking crazy, And ideally everything

1033
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: would work out right and you'd be like one of

1034
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: those uh, you know couples on the Instagram who you know,

1035
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: they found each other and they got married and everything

1036
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: was beautiful. Right. That's sick, That's what that would be. Sick.

1037
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: But life's fucking crazy.

1038
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 5: Man.

1039
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. It really is,

1040
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: it really is.

1041
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 5: It's funny question.

1042
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: You can ask me a question.

1043
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 5: I know this is a little personal, but go ahead.

1044
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: Have you ever like fully fell in love? Oh? Man,

1045
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 5: you could say no, you say whatever. Dude, that's fine,

1046
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 5: it's cool, man.

1047
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. I I you know,

1048
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: here's the thing. I was like, I like to be

1049
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: I really do. I like to be open been about

1050
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: uh my like life and stuff. But I don't. I

1051
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: don't like doing it if in ways that like involve

1052
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: other people. So I'm not going to answer that question.

1053
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 5: Of course. Yeah, it's fine. No, it's cool, dude, it's fine.

1054
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 5: I don't want to push your buttons on that when

1055
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I.

1056
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. But life's fucking life's fucking

1057
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: crazy and some things, you know, So it'd be great

1058
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: if everything worked out amazingly forever all the time. And

1059
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: I think when it doesn't, you have this like idea

1060
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: that for everyone else's working out amazingly beautiful forever all

1061
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: the time, and for you it's not. But that's not true.

1062
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I wish

1063
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: I had anything better to tell you than keep on

1064
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: keeping on, But that's really the sauce.

1065
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 5: M No. Of course, one last question for you, guy.

1066
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: I had this in mind for a while about if

1067
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 5: you can time travel, where will you go too?

1068
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 2: If I could time travel? Yeah, i'd stay right the fuck. Actually,

1069
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: i'd probably actually what, I would probably just use it

1070
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: to make money. I would just go into the future

1071
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: and like see how much bitcoin's worth or whatever and

1072
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: do that.

1073
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 5: What do you even be like worth anything?

1074
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: By then?

1075
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 5: I feel like crypto will like die off by then.

1076
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I would go in there. I would

1077
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: figure out I would use I would go into you

1078
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: know how people did go into the future, like predict

1079
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: the lottery numbers and stuff. I would do something like that.

1080
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: I don't care about, Like, I don't want to know.

1081
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to know stuff

1082
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: about the future, you know, other than that. Yeah, and

1083
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back in time because what

1084
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: am I gonna do there, you know, except fuck everything

1085
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: up by killing a butterfly or an ant.

1086
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 5: I mean, they're not wrong. I would say, like as

1087
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 5: hard as to think about going in the future, about

1088
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 5: fucking things up too, but also the past as well.

1089
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: Well. James, it's awesome. Take solace in this. No matter

1090
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: what happens to you and your love life, you can

1091
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: always sit in a dark room and jack off. That's

1092
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: something that nobody will ever be able to take away

1093
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: from you, and I hope he takes solace.

1094
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: On that they're not wrong. Man, I'll do one for you, bro,

1095
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 5: I got.

1096
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: It, don't I mean you can do I was gonna say,

1097
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: don't do one for me, but if you really want,

1098
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: if you, I mean, I can't stop. I cannot legally

1099
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: stop you from thinking about me, uh while you jerk off.

1100
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't want that power because your thoughts are

1101
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: a sacred place that no person or government or entity

1102
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: should you know, be able to interfere with. So you

1103
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: know it is your god given rights to think about

1104
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: whatever and whoever when you jack off. So go do that, James,

1105
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: God bless you, and I'll see you around the universe.

1106
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 5: No problem, Jack, I have a good one.

1107
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: Take care. He said he's gonna do it for me.

1108
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: Just he just comes and he's like for the gcko.

1109
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 5: There, repeat get goes on the line taking your phone

1110
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 5: calls every night.

1111
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: The repeat cat goes doing his eye.

1112
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: Who's teaching you to.

1113
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 5: A house to live your life?

1114
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: But he's not really an expert.