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Speaker 1: let's get to some questions. Mail bag. As always, you

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Speaker 1: guys are great, you guys send it in. A ton

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Speaker 1: of questions. The Cubs are playing good baseball. You know

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Speaker 1: we're about to start the second half. A lot of questions,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are interested in what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with you know, we're gonna start with trade

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Speaker 1: trade talk right away. Patrick, If the Cubs wanted to

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Speaker 1: so this is a Diamondbacks question, that's meyro. If the

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Speaker 1: Cubs wanted to acquire Merrill, Kelly and au Au henny

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Speaker 1: O Suarez, wouldn't it be more likely or a jump

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Speaker 1: to the front of the line if they took back

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Speaker 1: Jordan Montgomery. Jordan Montgomery out for the season with Tommy

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Speaker 1: John there is you know, there are people in the

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Speaker 1: Cubs organization that like Jordan Montgomery. He is you know what,

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Speaker 1: his deal was only two years forty seven.

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Speaker 2: He's done after this year.

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Speaker 1: So he is done after this year. When I originally

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Speaker 1: read this, I thought, you know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a talk to be had about there's a

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Speaker 1: discussion to be had Patrick about how willing are the

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Speaker 1: Cubs to take big money after twenty six The books

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Speaker 1: are clear, So that's one reason why it could be okay.

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Speaker 1: But we've also talked a lot about do they the

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Speaker 1: CBA is expiring, they don't know what the money situation

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Speaker 1: a cap? I don't know. You know, these are discussions

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to happen. But how

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Speaker 1: money is and what restrictions are placed on spending, salary cap,

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Speaker 1: that that could change the way teams want to spend.

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Speaker 1: So what do they want to put big money on

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Speaker 1: the books, especially if it's for someone that isn't playing.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Montgomery free agent at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's actually like it is interesting,

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Speaker 1: twenty something twenty three point seventy five divided by you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I think Greg is asking the right question

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Speaker 2: about the wrong player, if that makes sense, that you know,

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Speaker 2: not not taking on a guy who's about to become

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Speaker 2: But when the Cubs we were kind of working on

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Speaker 2: heading into this season, that was kind of one organizational

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know how all that's gonna shake out.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really fine line between what we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the value, Like you could

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's some reason that it could make sense, but

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Speaker 1: this season, it would make more sense as far as

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Speaker 1: be difficult. But those are the right players like those

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Speaker 1: love that. And Suarez is a difference maker right now.

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Speaker 1: The way he's playing, he change the dynamic of this team.

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Speaker 1: It would be amazing to see him in this lineup.

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Speaker 1: I think such a deep lineup, such a talented lineup,

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Speaker 1: it would be game changing that that would be a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge addition. Injury question, Patrick, what is Javier Asad's injury status?

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Speaker 1: If fully healthy, he would be a nice second half

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Speaker 2: still looking at an August return. I believe throwing live

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Speaker 2: Obviously see All Star breaks, so we're not getting injury

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Speaker 2: want to short change that possibility. He's obviously been an

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Speaker 2: haven't gone too far down this road because he still has,

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Speaker 2: for a legit starter, maybe a depth starter swingman, and

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Speaker 2: it makes the most sense to deploy a SOD for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jet's been pretty clear about this. You know,

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Speaker 1: once August first hits, there's just not many moves to

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Speaker 1: So that's that's it. I think that matters, and what

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Speaker 1: him and he's there, and that's important. You need more guys,

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Speaker 1: losing depth in a sense right likely you're getting a

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, the Cubs are well above five hundred.

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Speaker 1: What's their record right now? It is fifty seven and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine. Okay, this question, I think directly to their record.

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, this is actually the last question of

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Speaker 1: the episode. There were a couple other questions. I think

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Speaker 1: we'll touch on some like one of the other questions

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Speaker 1: kind of in our next episode. So if you didn't

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Speaker 1: the lack of hitting off the bench with the Cubs,

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Speaker 1: consider rostering three catchers once Miguel Ami comes back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Reese MacGuire has has played well. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: the top of my head that they're pretty damn good.

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Speaker 1: They're not great, They're not like a leap, but he's

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Speaker 1: been league average essentially overall. But I feel like he's

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Speaker 1: come he's come through and some big moments and hit

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Speaker 1: some big home runs. You've gotten some big hits here

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Speaker 1: because the numbers for Vidal Bruhan, for John Birdie, they're

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Speaker 1: just like, offensively, they're certainly not good enough. John Birdie

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Speaker 1: is about fifty two percent below league average. If you're

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Speaker 1: I believe is worse than that. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 1: have you heard there? Patrick?

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Speaker 2: First, I'm curious, like Minneapolis Polar Bear Club, is Dan

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Speaker 2: the Athletic, I think they would consider this. I think

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Speaker 2: they are with like what could go wrong? In recent

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Speaker 2: that sort of like a lull there, you know, between

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Speaker 2: All Star break he was like really really good, and

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, offensively, it kind of came and

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Speaker 2: the miners. It seemed like he had made a significant

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Speaker 2: definitely would think this is under consideration. It's a very

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Speaker 2: good question. We'll have to see.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 2: Sounded like a Maya was probably going to need sometime

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Speaker 2: a series is you know, it's not just like three games.

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Speaker 2: He would need more than three. Knowing how the Cubs operate,

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Speaker 2: they probably would ease him in a bit. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's not like he would just play like six games

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Speaker 2: in a row, particularly as a catcher. So again, this

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Speaker 2: of the All Star break, what they do at the deadline,

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Speaker 2: and also like you know, we can't assume all these

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Speaker 2: and the deadline. I think that'll be interesting on Friday

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Speaker 2: we get to Wrigley to see, you know, if there

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Speaker 2: are any moves or if there's any Oh we didn't

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Speaker 2: mention this, but you know, in Minneapolis or New York,

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Speaker 2: this sort of happened on that last road trip there.

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Speaker 2: You just sort of never know.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, no, that's a good point, and I Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're absolutely adding depth there. They're going to be moves made.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what this team will look like in

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Speaker 1: two weeks. It's going to look a little different, you know,

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Speaker 1: likely decently improved, is the hope that for Cubs fans.

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Speaker 1: I assume and that that's what they're gonna try and

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Speaker 1: pull off over these next couple of weeks. All right, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back with another episode, previewing some of talking

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Speaker 1: about what happened with Kyle Tucker and then some other

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Speaker 1: stuff going on, and then previewing this weekend against Boston.

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap this one up. Thanks so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to everyone. This is Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast.

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