1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast d A and Paranormal 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, tell your friends and 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: share us with everyone. This is an exciting new network 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: that will feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: out employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. You are 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am 15 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week 16 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: this is the place you go to when you want 17 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: to learn what it's like to be a researcher of 18 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: the paranormal, from Bigfoot to shadow people. I mean anything 19 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: and everything out of the ordinary. People just like you 20 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: or I are coming here to share their personal encounters, 21 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: their research, their curiosities, and I'm sharing them here on 22 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: the show, so you get to see what it's like 23 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: to interview people or hear their stories first hand about 24 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: what is going on in their lives. This is the 25 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: way that we figured this stuff out, piecing it together 26 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: and taking in the signs and noting the patterns, and 27 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: hopefully you're enjoying it as much as I am in 28 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: being able to actually come up with solutions to help 29 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: people get along better in their lives if they have 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: something that is more on the horrific side, and also 31 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: to give people hope if it is something on the 32 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: positive side. So you go to my main website, which 33 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com 34 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: and tell me about what it is that's on your mind, 35 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: what you want to hear on this program, ask your questions, 36 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: give your insight, and we'll go from there and don't forget. 37 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: The more details, the better. And you guys are in 38 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: for quite the treat today because I have Drew Banky 39 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: who's going to be joining us discussing his practices and 40 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: medicinal medicine of the spiritual kind and also of his 41 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: near death experiences and connections to the aliens out there 42 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: in our universe, you know, speaking of some of the 43 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: dark Parker things, it seems to be heavily this program 44 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: lanes in that direction, about the dark, the mysterious, and 45 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've even complained a few good times about 46 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: how I prefer to talk about the positive. I prefer 47 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: to talk about the lighter stuff, because my goodness, it 48 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: is uh. It's nicer to give hope instead of the 49 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: doom and gloom stories. But I am always appreciative that 50 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: people send in their doom and gloom stories because we've 51 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: got to, of course remedy those things as well. But 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I think it's appropriate to shed light on these 53 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: more enlightening stories and to let people know that the 54 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: good stuff it's happening in clusters and clumps all over 55 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the globe. Now I've shared that I have a book 56 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: called Jesus as No Joke, and um, I was quite 57 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: a skeptic when I had my own encounters with Jesus. 58 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I know what it sounds like, I mean what, 59 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: And I honestly was like, how and why could this 60 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: happen to myself? But after meeting him, it was like, well, 61 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: of course it could happen to anybody, and I kept 62 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: getting these raised eyebrow I was like, no, I don't know. 63 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: But then when I actually started getting out and talking 64 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: about this stuff, I would have the interesting stories on 65 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: the side of people letting me know that they experienced 66 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Jesus too. And then I started seeing more stories online 67 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, look, it's happening everywhere. Jesus is a 68 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: huge presence in the world today, just as much as 69 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: there are negative things going on in the world too. 70 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: In all honesty, I believe this is the battle of 71 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: all battles, happening in the privacy of people's own homes 72 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: and their lives and their dreams, and just letting us 73 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: know that these things are active and Jesus is highly 74 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: active as well. So I want to get into some 75 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: of the stories that I've come across in that regard, 76 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: especially being that we just celebrated Easter. I think it's 77 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: a great timing to do this and uh speaking a 78 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: little hope out there, all right. So these stories I 79 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: gathered from a website called Trusting in Jesus dot Com. 80 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: And it's no secret that I'm quite Christian, yes, and 81 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: uh I have to be to battle the darkness. I mean, 82 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna give more credit to the darkness 83 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: versus the good side. I mean, there's no way I'd 84 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: be able to stand here and be able to do 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: what I do without having such a huge positive force 86 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: on my side to smack shadow people in hat Man down. 87 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: Um So, anyways, all right, I want to get some 88 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: of these stories here. And this first one is from 89 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Dawn in the United States, and it says I used 90 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: to consider myself an atheist. Eventually I grew more spiritual 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: to personal experiences after months of considering Christianity. I had 92 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: this dream in April of two, so this just happened. 93 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: I was in my yard among hundreds of other people 94 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: who were partying and drinking out of the typical red 95 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: solo cups. The music was loud, and I felt like 96 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: it was building up towards something, as if an anticipation. 97 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: I went from person to person, attempting to tell them 98 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: something I felt was very important. Some listened, others mocked 99 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: or made fun of my words. I don't remember everything 100 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: I said, but the last thing I said to someone 101 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: was they're trying to control you. At that moment, the 102 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: music built to its climax. Everyone including myself, turned towards 103 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: the music, and over the tree line, an image of 104 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ rose alongside a bright orb of light. The 105 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: image of the orb, which seemed to be both one 106 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: yet separate, gently made their way into the back door 107 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: of my house. I followed behind, but there was nobody 108 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: else left by the time I made it inside, only 109 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: the littering of red solo cups on the ground. That's different, 110 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: I think on this website what I'm seeing here. Some 111 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: of these are visions and some of them are dreams. 112 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: So the next one comes from Harold in the United States. 113 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: I love these types of stories. I don't know about 114 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: you guys, but I love it. Uh it said. I 115 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: had been to Houston and was returning home to Fort 116 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: Worth between nine and ten am when I looked to 117 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: the east and there was Jesus in a cloud so 118 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: vivid and detailed it was not to be denied. He 119 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: had his right hand outstretched in it was the sun. 120 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I asked my cousin from the other side of the 121 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: family to stop, as I wish for him to share 122 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: it with me, but he kept driving. Jesus did not 123 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 1: look at me or the sun, but directly straight ahead. 124 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: It was New Year's Day, and throughout my life the 125 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: vision has meant various things to me as i've grown older. Cool. 126 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: I've told many about it, but they don't have an 127 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: explanation as to why I experienced the vision. All I 128 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: know is Jesus is with us and he is omnipotent. 129 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: That's beautiful, all right. So this one comes from Lucille 130 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: and the Philippines. Cool. I'm talking to some neighbors I 131 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: didn't get along well with because I am the type 132 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: of girl who locks herself in the house all day. 133 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Then we went to take a picture at our house. 134 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: I saw a group of girls talking in a tree 135 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: to help erase black spots. I helped my mother clean 136 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: some houses and saw that the owner was being a 137 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: bully to her, and my mom cried and I almost 138 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. Then a guy found me when I 139 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: left my room. He's a handsome guy that flashes white teeth. 140 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: He shows me a paper with names on it, including 141 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: my mother and me, something like a religious group. Then 142 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: he smiled and started talking to me. I saw that 143 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: he was somewhat transparent, like a ghost walking. He's emitting 144 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: sunrays and glowing. That's not irritating the eyes, and I 145 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: concluded he must be a priest, and he just smiled 146 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: at me. Then I found myself in a large room 147 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: where speaker gave medals and took pictures, so I assumed 148 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: it was somewhat of a recognition day. There's a girl 149 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: asking the crowd, and a guy came in for a 150 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: statement about Jesus and his message actually was similar to mine. 151 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: The speaker said it was Jesus who approached me. I 152 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: was so shocked and happy, delighted. Rather, I kept talking 153 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: to people, making them write their names on the cell 154 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: group for them to see Jesus and I have a 155 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: deeper relationship with him. Wow, that's amazing. All right? Uh 156 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: here was another story. At least give me goose bumps. 157 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I love it. This comes from Wesley out of Brazil. 158 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: I was in the middle of thousands and thousands of people. 159 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: They were running away from something, and some heavy storm 160 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: was happening in the background. When the storm stopped, I 161 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: looked to the sky and I saw Jesus levitating above 162 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: the roof of my home. I could only see his feet, 163 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: but I could tell for sure that it was Jesus. 164 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: I started to think things like, oh, my God, Jesus 165 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and Nazareth is in my home, and I began to 166 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: feel an inner peace. I also began to worry if 167 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: God would punish me or take me to heaven. And 168 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: then I woke up. I love this, love love, love 169 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: love love. This isn't this more? It's iiring than some 170 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: of the darker stuff. But hey, all right, we have 171 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: a balance. We have a balance here, all right. And 172 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: this one comes from Demi in the United States, and 173 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: she says, my dream was in a time when my 174 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: brother was going through a tough time with drugs. In 175 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: my dream, I was on a roller coaster. I somehow 176 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: knew that we were going to die. All of a sudden, 177 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: the coaster failed and we fell to our deaths. Huh. Immediately, 178 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: my spirit left my body and I was a flying 179 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: over marshy swamp water, and I flew straight to Jesus. 180 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: He was magnificent and glowing white. I said, I feel 181 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: like you don't hear my prayers and you're not with me. 182 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: He assured me that everything with my brother would be okay. 183 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: I hugged him and still remember that feeling of his 184 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: belt I told him he was a good friend. I 185 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: probably should have said a lot more. L O L. 186 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: He then sent me back. I woke up and felt 187 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: such joy real life. After a hard fight with heroin 188 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: and alcohol. My brother was living in Swampy, Florida. He 189 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: had been doing really good but got caught up in 190 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: drugs again. Oh no, this is terrible. He died suddenly 191 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: in a car accident on December. In retrospect, I feel 192 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: like this was given to me to remember that Jesus 193 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: said it was going to be okay. I believe he 194 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: is talking about my brother's soul and he is safe 195 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: now with Jesus. I missed my brother after he died, 196 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: and I turned to alcohol and was angry with God. However, 197 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: I am back in my walk and look forward to 198 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: seeing my brother again. You know, we need these stories. 199 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: We do because hope and God and Jesus and whatever 200 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: is positive in your life. We need that balance. I 201 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: wanted to share that today. Don't forget go to Heidi 202 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: house dot com and send me your stories and things 203 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: that you like, you know, highlight and hey, if you 204 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: want me to dig more into miracle stories or visions, 205 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: I am all about it, all right, we are going 206 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: to get to Drew Banky. You are listening to Dark 207 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 208 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll 209 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark 210 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 211 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I 212 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: want to remind everybody to go to my main website, 213 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com and tell me what's 214 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: on your mind out there and suggest what topics you'd 215 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: like me to address here on this program. As promised, 216 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: I have a fabulous guest. I have Drew Banky, or 217 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: better known as Blue thunder Man. He is not only 218 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: an Iraqi Freedom War veteran and medicine man, but holds 219 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: such Native American distinctions as Sun Dancer and Sacred Pipe Carrier, 220 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: also carrying the South American name of Aguila Cosmica or 221 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Cosmic Eagle. He's widely considered a master of plant medicine, 222 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: and Drew is the co founder of Sacred Journeys within 223 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: a nonprofit plant medicine church. Now having had near death 224 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: experiences and several ET contexts and being a caretaker of 225 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: the Crystal and Star Altar. This has fostered a relationship 226 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: with off planet intelligence. He is also the author of 227 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm Perfect and So Are You and Find Your Inner Guru. 228 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: You can find his information at Sacred Journeys within dot com. 229 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: And I'd like to give a war welcome to our 230 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: guest here, Drew Banky. How are you doing there, Drew, 231 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Heidi, thanks for having me on. Yeah, 232 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: So you've got a fascinating background. I mean, first off, 233 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, thank you for your service as a veteran 234 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: and uh and you've had some rather unique experiences that 235 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: kind of run the gamut from near death experiences to 236 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: ET contact. But I always like to get to, you know, 237 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: how did somebody get involved in something like these topics 238 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: to begin with? Well, it was you know, through my 239 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: own healing Heidi Um through the PTSD from two tours 240 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: in Iraq UM led me with severe PTSD culminated with 241 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: a suicide attempt in two thousand fourteen, and from two 242 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen two thousand and sixteen, I went through the 243 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: v A health care system, which really didn't pan out 244 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: very well for me. And eventually led me to ayahuasca, 245 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: and UM just kind of stumbled onto my path. I think. 246 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the story with a lot of us, 247 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, is I think that if you find your 248 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: true path, it's it's something that you kind of stumble upon. 249 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: It's nothing that you really set out to do. UM. 250 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: And this was nothing that I never You know, if 251 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: you would have met me in two thousand fifteen or 252 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: fourteen or something like that, you would have never guessed 253 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: that you would be talking to this person that you 254 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: talked to now. Is too, totally different lifetimes, you know. Wow, amazing. 255 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: So you were looking to heal yourself. I've had a 256 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: lot of patients that go through the process of UM 257 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: exploring ayahuasca among other things, and and them coming out 258 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: the other end totally changed. And this sounds like what 259 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: it was that you experienced as well. Yeah, for sure, 260 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just was looking for a relief. I 261 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know how I was going to come. 262 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I knew there's a spiritual side diawatsica going into my 263 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: first couple of ceremonies, but man, just had no idea, 264 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, how how deep it went and how literal 265 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: UM it all was when you can pretty much if 266 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: you ask for something in these medicines, and if you 267 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: do pure heart intention, you know, these ceremonies will show 268 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: you whatever you asked for, if if it's in line 269 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: with the what the universe wants. And you know I 270 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: asked for I asked for the raw truth pretty early 271 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: on in these ceremonies and was hit with a lot 272 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: of raw truth over the you know, unknowingly full unfolded 273 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: over years. I thought it was going to becoming a 274 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: vision or something like that, and or just one ceremony 275 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: while knowingly that that one intention and one of my 276 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: early on ceremonies just culminated in a whole lot of 277 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: raw truth and understanding coming to me in a very 278 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: extreme way. So before all of this and exploring the 279 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: other side of things, you had not experienced anything out 280 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: of the ord, Marry not. I mean, I've got to 281 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: asked that so many times for different interviews, not that 282 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I can really think of hiding. I mean, when I 283 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: was a kid, I remember growing up on a farm 284 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: and being outside and like shooting at a cloud that 285 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: was coming with my BB gun and the cloud turning 286 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: the other way, and you know, so I could stay 287 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: outside so I didn't have to go inside it, so 288 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: it didn't get rained on. But you know, things like that. Um, 289 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: you know, I had a reoccurring dream where I was 290 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: falling through the darkness and landed on a big like 291 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: net that was made out of galactic fiber. I remember 292 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: having that as a young kid over and over again. UM, 293 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: but sleepwalking. But I never, as I guess as a 294 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: kid wore off. You know, I got into sports, and 295 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: I started to go into the matrix, you know, of 296 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: where where the society steers us, most of us, and 297 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, kind of got away from that, I guess, 298 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: and when you know, strongly into the three D. Obviously 299 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: I was you know, I was a UH in the military. 300 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: I was a police officer for a while and really 301 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: believed in all that, um, the matrix three D propaganda. 302 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: So you went from a police officer to go in 303 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: quite the opposite, that's uh going within instead of without. 304 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: So that's quite a switch. But you know, I'm curious 305 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, of course, they questioned, well, 306 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: how do you know this is any anything real? When 307 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: it was induced by UH an outside element? And UH, 308 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what what what do you respond? To people 309 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: when they say that type of thing, Well, I've had 310 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: experiences UM and native ceremonies without medicine UM through fasting, 311 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: like for instance, the Sundance, which is a four days ceremony. 312 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: You're fast from sun up, Well you fast, uh, you 313 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: fast the whole four days from sun up to sundown. 314 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: You're dancing UM out out in the sun. It's done. 315 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: It's normally done in the in the middle of the summer, 316 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: so it's normally done in July or August, so it's 317 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: very hot that ceremony. You can have visions that are 318 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: very similar and you go to places. Once you start 319 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: exploring uh the spirit the spirit world, you can start 320 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: to go to places where with or without plant medicines, 321 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: and you can start to recognize and talking with other people, 322 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: you can start to really see that there's actual places 323 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: that exist out in the universe that UM are outside 324 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: of the five senses of touch and feel and sense 325 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: with your eyes and everything. But there's another sense where 326 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: you can get there because there's the places that are 327 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: described the same way by multiple people, and I've been 328 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: I've seen the same space through near death, through ceremonies 329 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: with and without medicine, and um, you know, just spontaneously. Okay, 330 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: you touched on a subject that I'd definitely like to 331 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: dive into further, probably in the next segment, because there's 332 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: so much to say about near death experiences. But okay, 333 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: So a lot of cultures have, uh, these ceremonies, and 334 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: there must be something to them that they they're very spiritual, 335 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: they're very sacred, and they're so widely used. And I've 336 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: heard across the centuries that these methods were used to 337 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: connect with the spiritual side or to have an understanding 338 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: on the other side. How would you explain and express 339 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: what it is that people generally experience when they do 340 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: join in some of these sacred ceremonies. The easiest way 341 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: to answer this question is to share a vision that 342 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: I had at sundance, um, when I was dancing. So 343 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: this is the sundance, a very old Native Native American 344 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: ceremony dance Sun up sundown. You faster the whole four days, 345 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: and there's also a piercing involved, so you have like 346 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: piercing in your chest ropes attached to your chest and 347 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: goes to a sundance tree where all the sun dancers 348 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: are dancing around. I had a vision here in the 349 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: ceremony one time, and you can read more about it. Um, 350 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: you knowing my books and all, I talked more in 351 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: depth about it. But um, the vision I had in 352 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: one of the ceremonies, I asked, I asked the spirits 353 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: of this sundance like there was like the spirits were 354 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: I was in this space, had a vision and ask 355 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: them what is the medicine? Like what is the power? 356 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: What is the energy behind the sundance? And they showed 357 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: me it was the heart. It was the heart of 358 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: each of the people beating at the same beat. That 359 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: was participate sundance, viewing the sundance, and it originated. So 360 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: another centerpiece for this the sundance is a large drum. 361 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: It's called normally referred to as either grandfather or grandmother drum. 362 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: If you've been to a pow wow or know what 363 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: a pow wow is, the drums out of pow wow, 364 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: um is it looks the same at a sundance, but 365 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: it's it's it's more sacred than it would be at 366 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: a pow wow. So you would never take a pow 367 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: wow drum to a sundance. The sundance drum would be 368 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: its own drum that's only dedicated to that, to the 369 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: whatever ceremony is doing at that time. There's a people 370 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: singing around that, and there's you know, ten twenty people 371 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: singing around it. Sometimes there's more than one drum. Let's 372 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: all singing in the same song, and it's all beating 373 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: at the same beat. And that technology, um a frequency 374 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: and vibration, actually gets the heartbeats of all everybody that's 375 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: in earshot of it into sink. Like if I was 376 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: a tap on table right now, within two minutes, me 377 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: and your heartbeat would match up to that beat whatever 378 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: was tapping. It's just a natural occurrence. But the medicine 379 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: to the sundance is having a hundred people around a tree, 380 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: having someone giving a blood you know what basically turns 381 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: out to be a blood sacrifice, and then tensions of 382 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: feeling the healing the planet, and um, all their heart 383 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: all beating at the same beat. As explained to me 384 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: by the spirits, that is the period that is the 385 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: real power and energy of the sundance. So, but when 386 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: a person goes into this trance to look at the 387 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: other side, tell us what that is like, Like, what 388 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: do people generally experience when they're experiencing that. You go 389 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: through every emotion that you can think of. It's a lot. 390 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: You go through a lot of gratitude, you go through humbleness, 391 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: you go through you're scared obviously, and then you get 392 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: to a point of uh, you know, surrender, I guess, 393 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: and it's the surrender to whatever happens. You know, people 394 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: that Sundance really agree to give up their lives really 395 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: for this prayer. If if it comes to that far, 396 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, they will gladly give up their life for 397 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: that prayer. Because the prayer each sundanswer is really to 398 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: create a miracle in this in this life through their pain. 399 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: So they so they give up four days of Uh, 400 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: A sundancer gives up four days of his comfort and 401 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: in return, the universe creates a miracle somewhere, and that 402 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: that sundancer is never gonna know where it happens or 403 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: how it happens, or he's never gonna get a recognition 404 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: for it, but he knows that it does happen somewhere. Extreme. Wow. Okay, 405 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: that's a that's very extreme stuff. Wow. Okay, So we're 406 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: gonna get to our next break. You are listening to 407 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: dark becomes light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 408 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network. 409 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are 410 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: listening to Ark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 411 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM their 412 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: normal podcast network. And I have my guest here, Drew Banky. 413 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: We are speaking of sacred, ritualistic, interesting journeys that people have. 414 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: And uh, one of the experiences that you mentioned briefly, Drew, 415 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: was about your personal near death experience, and I am 416 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: very curious to hear what your experience was about. I've 417 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: had a few near deaths, really, UM. I had a 418 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: few early on in my life that I really can't 419 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: remember that well. One was UM during my suicide attempt 420 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand fourteen. I don't care really call a 421 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of that one. Just the last one that I 422 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: can really recall is I passed in the Sundance. So 423 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: the Sundance I was speaking of UM the last year 424 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine team my second day of dancing, UM, 425 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: I just just really lost all energy and everything and 426 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: had to stop. Long story short, I went into shock, UM, 427 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: and my heart stopped, and the first thirty seconds to 428 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: minute of it was very confusing. Um, I didn't really 429 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: know what was happening. I heard someone say that, uh, 430 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: he has no heartbeat, he's not breathing, and at that 431 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: point I realized that they Well I in my mind 432 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: at that moment, I thought, I was like, they think 433 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: I'm dead. I need to I need to let him 434 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: know I'm still alive. Like that, I'm making a lot 435 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: of people worry. They're calling for you know, they're calling 436 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: for a minute to come. Someone's talking about calling nine 437 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: on one all this other stuff. People are crying. I 438 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: was like, I need I need to set up and 439 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: let them know that I'm alive. And when I set up, 440 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: I sat out of my body and it happened really 441 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: really fast, like the realization that I was dead and 442 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: then the acceptance happened really fast. I was like, Okay, 443 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: well I'm dead. It's just what's happening, you know. But um, 444 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: I stayed around my body for a moment. I couldn't 445 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: there was no h vision, but I could hear and 446 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: I could sense everything just like me and you were 447 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: talking right now. So just like there's no video that uh, 448 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: we were doing this interview with no video is just 449 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: just as much as I'm here right now, I was 450 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: just as much there. Man. I just heard people working 451 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: on my body. I could sense more people coming around 452 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and Um, after after almost seven minutes, I come back 453 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: into my body, and UM recounted everything that people said 454 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: about me, what they were doing around me, and while 455 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: I was out, while I was in that space, while 456 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: during that seven minutes, while I was in that timeless space. UM, 457 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: and it's that's the best, the best way I could 458 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: describe a timeless space. But I started drifting away from 459 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: my body the only way I knew that I could 460 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: the voices around my body, the site where I died, 461 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: UM was getting smaller, and I started drifting away. So 462 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: I knew I was going to quote unquote heaven or 463 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: wherever you know. I. I knew I was going somewhere else. 464 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: The feeling that I was getting where I was going 465 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: was I felt like I was going home. I felt 466 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: like I was going to see Mike, my mom. I 467 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: felt like I was going to see my grandma. Like 468 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: that feeling like that I can remember as a kid, 469 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: like getting in the car going to see your grandma 470 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: or something like that. That's the feeling I was getting. 471 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: This is where I was heading what I was getting. 472 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: On the opposite end, I was getting to review. Um, 473 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, I have a new baby. I have a 474 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: new baby, Nile Hawkeey was born um in January. But 475 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I have two other children, uh for a previous marriage, 476 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: my wife and everything. And I started going into each 477 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: of them and I was able to see what would 478 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: happen if I were to go back to my body 479 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: or if I was to continue on and this death 480 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: process and my death was to become an actual death. 481 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: And I basically was given a choice and uh to 482 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: either come back or go and I decided, Um, given 483 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: seeing seeing their response to my death, my family's response 484 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: to my death, I was going to go back, but 485 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: I asked to be able to retain everything that I 486 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: saw when I went back into my body so I 487 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: could share it like I'm doing now. Um, So I 488 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: come back into my body and can I stopped you 489 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: right there? So you said that you had a life 490 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: review essentially, who were you conversing with, Well, ultimately myself, 491 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: but like source of universe and just just kind of 492 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: seeing if I got everything done I needed to get done, 493 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: and really ultimately, what was how how my wife was 494 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: going to react and my children was going to react. 495 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: So you your higher self essentially and reviewed your life. 496 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: That's interesting. So what did all of this help in 497 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: your lifetime? When you came back into your body and 498 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you you realized, wow, you know this is what happened, 499 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: and you said that it reminded you of a similar 500 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: space and time as when you are on a sacred journey. 501 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: What have you learned from being in this space so much? 502 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: Heidi um, The list goes on. I guess the biggest 503 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: lesson was I was granted my true sovereignty and I 504 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: was able to release the fear of death, which I 505 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: I believe that through through my journey. Um. My truth 506 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: is that all fears are some type of a different 507 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: flavor of the fear of death. So once you really 508 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: the fear of death, it releases all fears and you're 509 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: able to live a much freer life and you're able 510 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: to experience, uh a life like you're you're meant to 511 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: your your you know, once you once you release that 512 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: fear of death, and that's I believe that's the confines 513 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: of the three D manifestation, and you can start exploring 514 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: outside that manifestation. I think that's I think that's one 515 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: of the biggest guests from a near death. It really 516 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: breaks the paradigm of existence. And I hear a lot 517 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: of people that speak of, you know, lessons of love 518 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: and forgiveness and things of that nature. Was any of 519 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: that admitted your way? All that all that UM? But 520 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: I believe, I really believe that to really fully digest that, 521 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: the fear of death is always overshadowing. So even even 522 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: if you do experience love, you still have that fear 523 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: of death that's overshadowing. So yeah, that's for me. There's, 524 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: like I said, there's infinite amount of UM lessons I 525 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: have learned through this experience. And I've took thousands of 526 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: people on journeys UM, doctors, lawyers, politicians, UH, celebrities and 527 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: veterans and all the way down to people that couldn't 528 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: afford ceremony. You know, I've never turned anyone away from ceremony. 529 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: And because I believe that, UM, it's our guy given 530 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: right for it all to be here for all of us, 531 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, and this the truth and light that that 532 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: fills your being when when you start to receive these 533 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: understandings is UH is priceless. So it's an awakening experience. 534 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are becoming U diversified and 535 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: unique and different. I have people got back to you 536 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: about what it did for their lives. Can you share 537 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: a story about one of them? Oh, I mean we 538 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: have we have so many. I'm not going to mention 539 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: anyone by name, but we've had so many people, UM, 540 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: lives just turned around for the better. Um. We have 541 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: a doctor um and I can't I can't share share 542 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: his name, Dr Brian Thornberg from Florida. He's done a 543 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: couple of ceremonies with us when we when we were 544 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: in in Florida doing ceremonies with ayahuasca and combo and 545 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: the understandings that it's really awesome for It's a really 546 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: honor for for me and my wife to hold ceremony 547 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: for the doctors and these people in the medical profession 548 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: that come to us and they want to understand like 549 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: their work on a deeper level. You know, they want 550 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: to understand the medical field that, but they want to 551 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: understand the energetic side too. You know, they want to 552 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: understand the full implications of what's going on. And these 553 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: medicines and these these ways. Uh. You know, ayahuasca is 554 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: eight thousand years old, uh ceremony and that carries a 555 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: lot of information along with it, and it's been done 556 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: um by so many and it's help so many veterans 557 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: and just people heal in general, you know, for PTSD, 558 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: traumas um and just letting people release what's weighing them down, 559 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote some people call it karmic debt 560 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: or whatever. People can release a lot of karmic debta 561 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: And I wash a ceremony and I think it's if 562 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: it's doing good. I don't know if it's answer or not, 563 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: but I know it's doing good. I hear you. Uh yeah. 564 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: A lot of people uh definitely rant and rave about it, 565 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: And of course there's a naysayers are like, well, of 566 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: course you're you're having an experience because it is uh 567 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: something that's not generally accepted in uh Western society. You know, 568 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: it's off the maps, it's off the charts, and you know, 569 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: of course, so it's hard to um imagine if you 570 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: have not used something like that. I personally have not. 571 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: So it's like I hear these stories I've I've read, 572 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: Uh you know ancient ceremonies about why things like this 573 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: were done, and it and it was what I call 574 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: kind of a spiritual cheat sheet, because you do kind 575 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: of sneak ahead and get to see something and bring 576 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: it back to you in this lifetime and you have 577 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: better and more open understanding. So it's, uh, it's a 578 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: fascinating arena. I surely have not explored, but I've certainly 579 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: heard a lot about. You know, I've uh, yeah, it's 580 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's not it's a doorway. It's one of 581 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: the ways. There's many ways to get there. Um. Plant 582 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: medicines are not the only way. There's plenty other ways. 583 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: You can get there through breath, you can get there 584 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: through whim hoff. You know, the list goes on and on. 585 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: But I get the question a lot about what it 586 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: drew is a placebo? Do you think? And my my 587 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: answer to that, Heidi, if you understand frequency and vibration, 588 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: is there anything but placebo? I wouldn't know. You know, 589 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: if if it's all if it's all about intention, it's 590 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: all about the power of our word. Uh, and we're 591 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: the real power that contained in us. Isn't the paceived 592 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: of the real medicine? Yeah? I guess the question is 593 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: out there. Just as I've experienced some things that a 594 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of people can't relate to, there are always mysteries 595 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: needing to be unraveled and to be experienced by individuals 596 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: better to judge. So I am never wanted to try 597 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: to push something on somebody. You know, if there's a 598 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: desire to explore, go for it. Um. But it's never 599 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: something that I personally push is to try any kind 600 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: of a hallucinogenic type of element. But again, this is 601 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: something that the ancients like to explore. Who's to say 602 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: that it's should be off limits or not. It's a 603 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: natural thing here in the world, unlike a lot of medicines. Well, 604 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get to our next break. You guys, 605 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 606 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 607 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. 608 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 609 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 610 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. And I have Drew 611 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: Banky who is sharing about some of his adventures in 612 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: uh sacred journeys and UH. You know something that I 613 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: find fascinating to Again, we're talking about people who have 614 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: had these experiences, uh through different rituals and UH, you 615 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: have had alien contacts. And I'm curious if these are 616 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: contacts that were inspired during one of your sake a 617 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: journeys or how this transpired. I've had I've had experiences 618 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: during ceremony one of my and I've had a several experience. 619 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: I've had more experiences outside the ceremony, and I have 620 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: in UM. One in particular, UM, and I write about 621 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: this uh in the books is the face to face 622 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: encounter I had near Chaco Canyon. UM. This was. This 623 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: happened during an anniversary celebration me and my wife are having. 624 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: I offered some prayer songs, some Native American prayer songs 625 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: to the canyon. UH. In the evening when we were 626 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: leaving and went back to our BnB, had dinner, UM, 627 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: went to went to bed and woke up in the 628 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: middle of night, about two or three o'clock in the morning, UM, 629 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: buzzing in the ear. I could really strong, you know, 630 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: hair standing up on the back of my neck. Really 631 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: my into those senses were just going off the roof 632 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: when to the back yard of this airbnb to have 633 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: some tobacco and met a shadow. What I perceived was 634 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: a shadow at first, I turned around. There was no 635 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: street light behind me, There was no lights shining to 636 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: make a shadow. I turned around to look at this 637 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: what I I thought a shadow of myself. When I 638 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: turned around looked at it, the eyes opened up and 639 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: inside the eyes were stars and galaxies, and my my consciousness, 640 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: I guess, like went out of my body and dove 641 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: into his eyes and started traveling through these galaxies. Just 642 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: these massive downloads and of information that was too much 643 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: for me to unfold then. But um, I later, you know, 644 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: over the years, I would have dreams and stuff unfolding 645 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 1: this this vision, and it was like visions of how 646 00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: the universe started and how energy is connected, and how 647 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: the Shocker systems are the basis for all of all 648 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: of existence, Like everything in existence has these Chaker systems. Um, 649 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: just show me all these downloads. And this experience lasted 650 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: like three seconds. As soon as like my physical self 651 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: like kicked in. I I discontinued contact and ran scared 652 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: and ran aside tound locked the door, just freaking out, 653 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: just went into full panic mode, just not of scared 654 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: of what it was, more startled. UM really wasn't prepared 655 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: for that experience to just come up on me, you know. Um. 656 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: That turned out to be one of the pinnacle points 657 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: of my journey. I had a dream about a week 658 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: or two after this experience. UM, I didn't speak for 659 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: a few days. I told my wife and everything right 660 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: after it happened, but just really took a few days 661 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: right after this happened to really collect my thoughts, didn't 662 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: didn't talk about it a lot, and just really um 663 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: pondered it a lot, you know, and it eventually, you know, 664 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: the shock eventually were off and kind of slid to 665 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: the background of my thoughts. You know, it wasn't at 666 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: the forefront. And just as soon as it did, I 667 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: had a dream. It was like a week or two 668 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: after where in the dream, at night, you know, I 669 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: was I was just sleeping regular and I had this 670 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: experience where I was the other being. I was standing 671 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: in the backyard on the deck, and I watched my 672 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: physical self drew the physical manifestation and drew walk out 673 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: lightus tobacco and everything, and and turn and look at 674 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: me and That's when I got the really the deep 675 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: lesson of by location understanding that we're multidimensional beings operating 676 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: in several different fields at the same time. So I 677 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: really understood in a very deep way, uh, in that 678 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: moment that multidimensionality and that that was That was probably 679 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: the biggest lesson of that experience. So how do you 680 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: explain that? So a lot of people, I've heard this 681 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: conversation where people are like, I'm here, but I'm there 682 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: as well, how do you explain what what it is 683 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: that you're experienced. We're literally living multiple lives at the 684 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: same time. How how does that go? Well, our our 685 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: conscious has an if an amount of fragments, you know, 686 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: and it can it can be in multiple place, it 687 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: can be an infant amount of places at the same time. 688 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: And when we start to become more spiritual, we start 689 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: to tap in, we start to get peaks into these 690 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: other spaces, and over over our journey we start to 691 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: we start to understand them. It's more in just a peak, 692 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: we start to understand it more. We start to go 693 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: in and we start to we actually started to understand 694 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: where we're at and how how we're operating here. For 695 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: me to articulate it um in the time that we 696 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: have left to be very difficult, But all I can 697 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: say it's it's a it's a knowing that or as 698 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: a remembering really that that comes over you. You know 699 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: this information and understandings. You realize And I'm sure a 700 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: lot of your listeners are gonna are gonna sympathize with 701 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: this that it's really not a relearning of anything, that's 702 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: remembering that we go through. Yeah, that's actually something that 703 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,959 Speaker 1: I write about my books. Uh, there's not enough time 704 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: to learn everything. It's a recalling that's something in our 705 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: souls to pull forward. So in all the work that 706 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: you do, obviously it's something you're super passionate about. What 707 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: is it that you're hoping to get across, Like, what's 708 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: the what's the ultimate message? If you could put it 709 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: in a nutshell for all that you're doing, we're here 710 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: going through evolutionary shift. We're going through upgrade in our 711 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: human body and existence through consciousness us that has it's 712 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: if it has ever happened, it's been a very long 713 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: time ago. And it's so this is a very extreme 714 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: experience and a very um profound experience. We're going through 715 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: right now. We're going through upgrade in our lifetimes. UM. 716 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: So we're starting off in one dimensional field and we're 717 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of us are gonna upgrade and 718 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: go into another dimensional field during our lifetimes. So it's 719 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: an evolutionary shifting consciousness that's going to affect our physical bodies. Um. 720 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: Already has started. Um, we're in the middle of it now. 721 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a question of when it's happening. 722 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: It's a it's a question of realizing it. It's actually 723 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: happening right now. How are we Are we getting hints 724 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: right now? Like what where are you seeing these changes? 725 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: If you everywhere around the world Ukraine, Uh, there's fires 726 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: right now in Colorado that just started over the past 727 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: few days. If you were to look at the Earth 728 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: as a being and what happens to a human one, 729 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: It has the flu we we we get hot, we puke, 730 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: we go through a purging process, we sweat, we sleep. Um, 731 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: what would that look like if if the planet was 732 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: a being like us and it was going through a change, 733 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: and it was releasing a bunch of things. This is 734 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: exactly what looked like The universe is is going through 735 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: a purge and if you if you can't see, you 736 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: need to open your eyes. Really, it's it's it's happening 737 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: all around us. The universe is is showing signs all 738 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: around us. Mankind joining in the war, and fires happening. 739 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: These are signs of inspired changes in humankind and the planet. 740 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: I believe it could be. It could be the end times, 741 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: or it could be the beginning times. I guess it's 742 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: up to your perception of what what you believe or 743 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: what you what you subscribe to. I subscribe to that 744 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: this is this is the greatest change. This is the 745 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: beginning of the Golden Age, the crystal Age, sifting from 746 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: three D to five D um dimensional fields. I think 747 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: we're I think we're our vibrations as a species, as 748 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: a collective is rising along with the earth and everything 749 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: around us. Yeah, it's a very common theme. I'm hearing 750 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: up from a lot of different people. Uh, those who 751 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: are practicing meditation and other things, and or a psychic mediums, 752 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: and or they're just so happened to read a person 753 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: and it comes across there's something in their path that 754 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: seems to be this shift going on. So it's coming 755 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: from a lot of different arenas and it's fascinating to hear. 756 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: But how can people get ahold of you if they 757 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: want to learn more about your work or your book? Uh. 758 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: My first book is I'm Perfect and So Are You? Uh, 759 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: the story of one man's journey to one nous and 760 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: the second book is Find Your Inner Guru. Um. They're 761 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: both a co author by my co author, Dr Colleen Drawn, 762 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: and she's a retired nerves psychologist and she's she's does 763 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: amazing work. Our website is the best way to contact 764 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: me or find out about any of the past interviews 765 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: I've done or where I'm going to be at conferences 766 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: coming up. Our website, Sacred Journeys within dot com. Journeys 767 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: is spelled with I E s uh, not a why 768 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: because why was already taken so I know it's the 769 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: pronunciation is not right, But that is our website and 770 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: that's the best way to get in contact with us 771 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: with me and my wife Ella. Wonderful. Well, I want 772 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: to thank you so much for coming on the show 773 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: to day, Drew. This is fascinating. I appreciate Heidi, I 774 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: appreciate your friendship and it was it was a great time. Well, 775 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: we have come to the bottom of another fabulous program. 776 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: Remember you, guys, if there is something that you've experienced 777 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary, go to my main website, which 778 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot com 779 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: and literally as soon as you click on there, you 780 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: will see where you can fill in experiences, things that 781 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: are on your mind or your research, or if you 782 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: just want to comment about something that's been brought up 783 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: on the show, feel free to put it right there. 784 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, the more details the better. I'm 785 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: always saying that because it really helps to paint a picture. 786 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I have to tell you, guys, I 787 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: got an email from someone saying I'm so sorry I 788 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: did send you a repeat email and it's okay. You know. 789 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: It happens, and sometimes I catch it. Most times I 790 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: do not, because again, I like to just read these 791 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: things like freestyle without having read them prior, unless there's 792 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,959 Speaker 1: something on the front line that says, hey, look out 793 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: for this, or don't mention me or don't share this. 794 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you guys, I will totally honor your anonymity. 795 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: Or if you don't want it shared as well and 796 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: you just want some advice, I am here for all 797 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: of that, and uh, you know, I really hope that 798 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: you guys are learning as I am learning through the 799 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: process of this program, because that is what it's about. 800 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: This is where it's like to be a researcher in 801 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: the paranormal. You interview people, you talk to them, you 802 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: try to find out what's going on. You take the 803 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: personal stories, and for me, I keep my sense of humor. 804 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: All right, and also go to my comic that is 805 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: a paranormal comic strip, the Outlanders Comic dot com. You 806 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: can follow me on Instagram at the Outlanders Comic as well. 807 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: All Right, you guys, you have been listening to Dark 808 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 809 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll 810 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well, if 811 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait till 812 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: you hear the next one. You've been listening to the 813 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.