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Speaker 1: I am all in, kiss you more, I am all

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Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Everybody

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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. We're here with

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Speaker 1: Majin Amck. One of the great, one of the great

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Speaker 1: talents that this town has ever produced. She's obviously know

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Speaker 1: on Riverdale as Alice, and that's been since two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: She directs, she writes, she produces, she does everything. She's

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Speaker 1: got a wonderful organization um dealing with mental illness that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to a little bit later. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: I give you the one only makes your naming. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. How are you? Thank you? I'm good

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Speaker 1: and I have so applaud to you for saying my

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Speaker 1: name correctly. I always knew your name. I always knew

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Speaker 1: how to say it correctly, and before you came on,

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Speaker 1: our team coached me on it. They kept sending me

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Speaker 1: like it's a long a it's here. I said, like, guys,

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Speaker 1: So even back in back in the day, did it

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Speaker 1: give you trouble? Ear no German and you knew that

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Speaker 1: this is the way it's pronounced. Yeah, I'm well, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm part German, so I know I know this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know these things. Yeah. And it's just such a

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Speaker 1: beautiful name. It's it's so fun to say. It makes

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Speaker 1: your name. I just love that name. I have a

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Speaker 1: story about my name. Do you do? Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: lay it on us. So my husband and I went

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Speaker 1: I would we would come and go and as you passed,

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Speaker 1: they were always very gracious, Hello, David, have a great day.

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Speaker 1: And they would say hello, mrs have a good day. Untry, like,

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Speaker 1: can't call you that. Okay, Well, hey, at least they

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Speaker 1: were honest. I want to just jump right in um

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