1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is John, This is Sam, your og Okay storytime 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: And we have some spectacular stories coming up. 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 3: But real quick, we got a two minute break from 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: our lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: My ex's father called me a man or. 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 4: Hey, krats okay, So I'm going to. 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Try to keep the main essentials. I twenty one mile, 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: met Meghan Meghan nineteen female last summer and we began dating. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: We were both inexperienced at intimacies at time. I messed 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: around with other girls before, but never had actually gone 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: all the way before She basically saw it and I 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: already lost my V card though she has really conservative 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: parents as I do, so who believed that you should 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: hold off until marriage to have spicy sleep, et cetera. 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Ross Raiders and if 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: you want to spit your old stories, go to the 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: rsash okay stories. I'm Subreddit, I'm Riley, I'm Dakota, and 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm Keon. So long story short. After dating for a while, 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: we began having spy Oh. 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: But they specifically told you not to. 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: But we always had protection and we're careful. 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 4: Ah, not in the eyes of the lord. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: I just want to stress the fact that she was 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: eighteen at the time we started dating, and she turned 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: nineteen while we dated, although because she was held back 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: a year, she was still a senior in high school 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: while I was already in college. While we dated. Her 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: dad once asked me if I ever had spicy sleep before, 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: and I lied and told him no. What's that? She 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: had told me to lie for us, so I did. 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: And he knew where my parents work, so I guess 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: call me paranoid, but they have history for doing rash decisions, 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: so I didn't want there to be a chance where 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: they would reach out to my parents and tell them 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: what I had done. Your parents work at the church. 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 5: Probably this is where you make a power move and 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: you go yes and it was your daughter, And then 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 5: they go. 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 4: And they he's. 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Kicked out of the house if he does that. 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: Ah man, bummer, But that would. 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Be a fantastic power move. We broke up in February 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: because the relationship wasn't working. There was a lot of fighting, 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: and we saw the split ways wasn't exactly amicable. But 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: we have talked a handful of times since and have 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: been civil. I've tried to push that whole relationship out 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: of my life since hand moved on. So to the 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: problem at hand. She texts me today out of the blue, 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: randomly telling me if anyone from her family contacts me, 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: to not tell them anything or answer the phone. I 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: asked her why. She told me she told her sister 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: that she doesn't have her V card anymore and that 54 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: she had spicy sleep with me and one other guy 55 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: after we broke up. Her sister told her parents, so 56 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: she wanted to warn me before they reached out to me. 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: I didn't really think anyone would bother contacting me, so 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I shrugged it off and told her whatever and left 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: it at that. Now, our dad just sent me a 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: message on Facebook telling me he needs to speak with 61 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: me when I have a chance. I haven't opened up 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: the message as to not show the red part, but 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: I saw the little notification on my phone. Yes, I 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: do realize that I'm twenty one, and if he tells 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: my parents, it shouldn't matter because I'm on my own 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: and I don't really have a say in my life anymore, 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: which they don't. But they believe about waiting till marriage 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: for spicy sleep for religious reasons, and if they found 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: out I had spicy sleep. It would really hurt them 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: and most definitely make a rift an our relationship have 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: already had a rocky relationship with them, and I don't 72 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: want to make things worse. I have a funny story. 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: About this, Oh yeah, oh yeah, because I was this guy. 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: Oh, you're like, I can't let them know that I'm 75 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: dainted meat. 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you guys in on some family stuff. 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Whenever I moved out of my apartment in Tennessee, my 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: mom was vacuuming. She found a little the edge of 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: a rapper. You guys can come up to that. 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Which rapper jay z J Cole? 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: Which rapper were you edging? 82 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: And she found that and then she was she had 83 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: to like leave the room because I think she was disappointed. 84 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: And everyone was like my dad was like, yeah, your 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: mom found this. She's pretty upset. 86 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: She'd be like, no, it's for Pokemon car. 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: She's pretty upset. She doesn't know who's with and I 88 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: just want to give your heads up. And I was like, 89 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: my mom was just coming to the realization that I'm 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: not a baby boy anymore and a man with needs. 91 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: I'm not a baby boy no more. I'm making babies. 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Boy. That was embarrassing. 93 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: Excuse where you're like, I was just practicing. 94 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 5: Like I took a class in college and I was curious. 95 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: You see that pillow in the corner. You need to 96 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: throw that away too, because I was practicing. 97 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, don't touch the fruits and orbits. 98 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, So I see where this is coming 99 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: from because my parents also say to wait till marriage. 100 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: But I am a sin filment creature that can be. 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: God still loves me, though, and I've figured that out. 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: But anyways, enough of me. Yeah, I know where this 103 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: guy's coming from, and it is tough, it is, sir. 104 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 5: I just imagine anyways, enough of me and then like 105 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: a puff of smoke, and you just disappear. 106 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: Enough of me. 107 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: That was what I wanted to happen. So Opie's question, 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: what should I do? Should I ignore the dad? What 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: if he contacts my parents and tells them? Should I 110 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: tell him anything? I don't want to argue whether I 111 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: should care if my parents find out, or about religious morals, 112 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: just about the situation with my experience. I really appreciate 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: and advice and support you guys can offer. Boys, do 114 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: do we talk to the dad? 115 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 4: I mean to your dad? 116 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: No? No, No, her dad, her dad, ex's dad. 117 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm going that's just me. Though this guy, I'm sure 118 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: would not do that. He'd probably be like. 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: Well, sir, I apologize that I had to let you 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: know now that I have spoiled the sanctity of your 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 5: child outside of the laws of the Lord. And I 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 5: think that's dumb and you should go. But that was 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 5: that's boy. 124 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: If I was at this point, I would probably message 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: and be like, I'm sorry, I understand, I'm sorry, I 126 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, corrupted your daughter. 127 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 6: But it's just like, dude, ask and you shall receive 128 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 6: my job. No, you're asking if you're asking about it 129 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 6: and we broke up. By the way you hit him 130 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: with the yeah we did. 131 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: The oug ref right now is a little like jaw 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: to the floor. 133 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 5: But like you gotta get a soundboard with a bunch 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: of timy jaloppy noises. 135 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: That's what you. 136 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: Know. 137 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: You're ignoring it. 138 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: I'll just respond back and be like, you can't handle 139 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: the truth skill issue. 140 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: Sorry, I mean, like the real answer is like what 141 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 5: don't answer? 142 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Like block, But if you block him, I feel like 143 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: it's gonna be He's one of those dads who will 144 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: literally shove to your house and it's just the scary one. Yeah. 145 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: So update. So I've been reading all of your comments 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: and I appreciate everyone it's been saying. I decided not 147 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: to answer him and just wait it out, because if 148 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: you ignore your pro percent down the roadway. 149 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: This isn't even your problem, it's their problem. 150 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: She texted me again, telling me that she was sorry 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: and she had come clean to her dad and hope 152 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: everything works out and he doesn't take measures for measurements. 153 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Frankly, I don't care. 154 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I agree this is between him and her. We've been 155 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: broken up for a while now, so there's no reason 156 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: why he should be looking to me for an explanation 157 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: to text me, and told me not to ignore her 158 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: dad because he has my parents' phone number and will 159 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: call them if he has to. I talked to my 160 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: roommate and a few of my friends that live near 161 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: my apartment. They advise me to message him back, but 162 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: fill out the conversation, not to omit anything, and just 163 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: not justify anything. It is what it is, it happened, 164 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: and honestly don't see what he gets out of talking 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: to me, or lecturing me or whatever. He wants to do. 166 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: I do hope he doesn't call my parents because that 167 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: would be a real wianer thing to do with him. 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: For literally no reason at all, this whole thing has 169 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: been come has been such a head that I thought 170 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to be over with. I appreciate all the 171 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: unput and we'll update once I can, and we'll have 172 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: something update with here we. 173 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: Go, uh huh. 174 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: We have the conversation. We go to the dad, We 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: sit down with him. He says, hey, I heard that 176 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: you had intimate relations with my daughter, and you say, no, sir, 177 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: I did not. The actual reason that we broke up 178 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: is because she had intimate relations with someone else. 179 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you don't. 180 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: Don't you just tell them. 181 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: To stop talking to you know, I'm gonna start spreading rumors. 182 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: No, because they just that it just goes around, what 183 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: comes around. You don't want to do that. 184 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Well, well it's she's been going around and now it's 185 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: coming to me and I'm gonna be coming back. 186 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: You go, sir. It was strictly over the genes, sir. 187 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 5: We observed the laws of God and man, and we 188 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: kept it strictly over the genes. Not even really that good, 189 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 5: pretty unpleasant, unpleasant, over the genes. 190 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: We did the we did the loophole, and actually she 191 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: still has a reco if you know what I mean. 192 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 4: But she lost her gene card. She cannot return those 193 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: levis anymore. 194 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: That what Bill Clinton did. 195 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I said, all right, Bill Clinton, he 196 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: was like, I did not have spicy relations with that woman. 197 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: I did not have. 198 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: He made a public address to saying I did not 199 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: have spicy relations with that woman. Went in doubt. We 200 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: all know he did. 201 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 7: I did not have spicy relations with that woman. Good job, 202 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 7: but I did have a little fun. It doesn't count 203 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 7: if it's over the genes. It doesn't count if it's 204 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 7: over the pain. 205 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: What did Sam used to quote this acronym all the time? 206 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Oh tp J oh T p HJ over the pants 207 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: and drum. 208 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: You didn't need to say it didn't he didn't. We 209 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: all knew what. 210 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: We all saw it. 211 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, on a real level, these people, these kind 212 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 5: of people are so annoying to me. I would like 213 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: go out of my way to try. 214 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: To make him as uncomfortable as possible. 215 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 5: If you've got to want to come around and ask 216 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: him about stuff you don't want to hear get ready 217 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 5: to hear it in the worst possible way. 218 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: Okay, have fun with that, all. 219 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Right, we're getting back to the story. Update two. Wow, 220 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: this is really blown up. Blah blah blah blah blah. 221 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and my dad called me. 222 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: I feared the worst, but he only needed like basic 223 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: tech support for his computer, and that's all he wanted. 224 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I felt relieved and went through my day. A little 225 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: while ago, my sister calls me and asks me what 226 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: my ex's dad's name is. I tell her. She tells 227 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: me that he called my dad left the voicemail saying 228 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: he was going to try and call again today. Most 229 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,239 Speaker 1: of my family was there and I was on speakerphone, 230 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: so they asked if I knew anything. Told them I 231 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't know why my exes family would try to contact 232 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: them after us being broken up for such a long time. 233 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: My dad said it was odd and he would wait 234 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: for the phone call and see what's up. He figures 235 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: her dad just wants advice on something, so he would 236 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: let me know what it was about. I called my 237 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: sister shortly after and told her why he was calling, 238 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: and her response was literally bursting out and laughter. She 239 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: thinks it's really weird for him to do this because 240 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: he gains no thing from calling us. My exes obviously 241 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: not prego, and we both don't think he would try 242 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: to pull the consent card, so we figured he just 243 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: wants to tell on me. Basically, that would just be it. 244 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: My sister and my dad are hanging out all day today. 245 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: She told me not to worry about it and it'll 246 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: be okay. She will be texting me and let me 247 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: know or give me a heads up if anything happens. 248 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: As soon as I get a response, I will let 249 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: you guys know. Update one month later, This sister is 250 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: the best sister ever. Oh my gosh, which is a 251 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: real one. Update three one month later. 252 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: Okay, the baby's here. 253 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: So wow. That last post pretty much blew up again. 254 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blahlah. You're so popular, We love you. 255 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: So I wanted to wait until after the weekend post 256 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: the update because a lot happened, and oh man, it's 257 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good update that most of you will enjoy. 258 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: So her dad called my dad and was very emotional 259 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: and pretty pissed off that I lined to him in 260 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: the sense that I told him that I had it 261 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: slept with his daughter, but didn't plan on it on 262 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: telling him, what else are you supposed to say? Yes, 263 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I plan on going hard in the paint. What the 264 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: f Sir? Might I have your permission to go in 265 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: that koduci? 266 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: Sir? 267 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Can I have permission to just slime in it? Sir? 268 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: May I have your permission to slay the pounani? 269 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: It's when she asked, you know, at the dinner table, Daddy, 270 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: can you pass the salt? And both of you reach 271 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: for the salt. 272 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great one day that will happen. I'm 273 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: so glad you guys are back. O. Man, My dad 274 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: was pretty taken back and didn't really know what to say. 275 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: Her dad continued on saying how he wanted to let 276 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: my parents know what a man which I was, and 277 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: how I took his daughter's virginity and that I needed 278 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: to be fixed. 279 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 4: You can't really fix that. 280 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: I have a theory of how to fix it. What 281 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: if I reverse what I did? 282 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: You time travel and then you but then you have 283 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 5: to execute the pastor if you take their place? So 284 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 5: I think I think that's even worse. Right, Yeah, I 285 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: don't know. 286 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: My dad just told him he was sorry. He was 287 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: disappointed in me, and he would handle it. 288 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: Oh, Dad's gonna handle it. 289 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: Dad, He's gonna handle it. 290 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: Dad's gonna fix this. 291 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 5: Dad's gonna talk to the other dad and be like, look, 292 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:11,359 Speaker 5: my boy bangs, and regardless of how not in accordance 293 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: with the laws of the Lord, it is, my son bangs. 294 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: Dude, how do you fix you can't fix this? 295 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: Then those two dads are gonna awkward conversation. 296 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: Appearing to Dad on the other the phone like I'll 297 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: fix this. 298 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: An emotions going through my brain and probably his brain 299 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: is Oh wow. 300 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: This is how they're gonna fix it. He's like, I'm 301 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: gonna take care of this. 302 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: The two dads are gonna meet up for a boxing match, 303 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: and whoever wins their kids still gets to be a virgin. 304 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: That's I think that's what they're gonna rock with here. 305 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, okay. He talked to him some more and 306 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: calmed him down, and then hung up and locked his number. 307 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh man, it's it's the man. Your son bang my daughter. 308 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: I guess I have to bang you. 309 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: It's like, oh, oh, he's gonna do the what was 310 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: that America? He's doing the American beauty real quick. 311 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: Just imagine your dad in this conversation. What did you 312 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: just say the American duty. 313 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 5: No, the American's a movie, so it's a yeah, I know, 314 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: I don't spoiler alert. 315 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: Sorry that movie's been out for almost thirty years now. 316 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, Sorry, I American pied your daughter. I'm sorry, 317 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: I need to My dad called me and told me 318 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: what happened. I did not give him the heads up. 319 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: He's pretty calm about it. For a bit, he thought 320 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: the guy won money or something, but when he realized 321 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: he was basically wanted the tattle, he just left it 322 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: at that. My mom, on the other hand, called me 323 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: shortly after and flipped out on me about how I 324 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: could have gotten her prego. And I didn't even think 325 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: about what would have happened if she got prego, or 326 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: if I got an STD and had a whole bunch 327 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: of other things. Basically a fun time for me. 328 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: Put an asterix down there beneath him, or it's like, 329 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 5: this is not actual medical advice. 330 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: I am a medical claimed doctor. I am a doctor. 331 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: Emphasis right under it. He's lying. He's lying. 332 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Yes, gonorrhea, skirts aria and scurrits aria. 333 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: I don't want that one. 334 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Diarrhea skirts Aria. 335 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: Sounds like that sounds like someone's last. 336 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: Name GONERIEA and herbies and my name's Tony Skurtz Area. 337 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Anyways, we got a little bit left here of this 338 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: cursed episode with all the boys back the guys thoughts 339 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: real quick before we just got. 340 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: Them on a real level. 341 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: If the parents are like you didn't even think about 342 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: if she could get pregnant, It's like, that's on. 343 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: You, stupid. 344 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: You should have taught your your son about the dangers 345 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 5: and the risks. Instead you're just like, we'll never talk 346 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 5: about it. Probably it probably knowing how. 347 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: This person was raised and his parents are religious, the 348 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: only way to talk about it was don't do it 349 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: or you're gonna go to hell. And then they that's 350 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: all you get school education right there, that's that's that 351 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: sounds accurate. 352 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: And look, I remember that was my biggest fear because 353 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: it had been hammered home to me. 354 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: It's like, if you have a baby, your life is over. 355 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: And I was like, so it was. It was scary, 356 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: But that's why you used this things. You used the protection. 357 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a thing for a really 358 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: long time. 359 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: You gotta know how to by the way you gotta 360 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: know how to use it right. You can't. It's there's 361 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: a way to do out in that in there's a 362 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: way to do it. 363 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna explain it because I don't want to. 364 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: I went home this past weekend to pick up something 365 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: from my parents house I needed from my apartment, something 366 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: that was mine. Just couldn't take it with me the 367 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: first time because it didn't fit the car. So it 368 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: was a pretty awkward weekend. I didn see my sister 369 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: and she made so many jokes about how one would 370 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: go fixing a situation like this, how my ex wanted to. 371 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the update. All this well, for now, 372 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: many awkward conversations were had. Relationships with parents is pretty 373 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: much strained. Smiley face comment number one, I'm a little 374 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: disappointed to Nope, he's dad apologizing to the ex girlfriend's 375 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: dad and saying he's disappointed in his son. Dude needs 376 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: to grow some balls. Should have replied, Okay, why are 377 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: you telling me all this? 378 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: Uh huh uh huh. 379 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Well, I try to concern myself with the personal intimate 380 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: choices of other consentic adults, whether they are related to 381 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: me or not. It's pretty weird not only that you 382 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: are this upset, but also that you're calling me about 383 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: it when it's really neither of our businesses. If ex 384 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: girlfriend or rope have any concerns about how they handle things, 385 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: they can discuss it with each other, don't call me 386 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: and reply. I mean concerning Opie's parents also share the 387 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: same religious beliefs of waiting till marriage. He handled it 388 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: pretty well. Not everything needs to be a confrontation. His mom, 389 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: on the other hand, do TOK. Yeah, that's that's how 390 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: I imagine like to like people the same religion having 391 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: a conversation like still supporting another brother or sister in 392 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: Christ or whatever, and they're just like, huh huh. But 393 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: the dad did the most best thing by blocking the number. Yeah, 394 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: that's how he fixed it. 395 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, just this is I don't know, this is a thing. 396 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: It's said, happened and will never speak again. 397 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: Bye forever. A good deal with that? In how whatever 398 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: way do you. 399 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Want to yup, Guys, we got another story. 400 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: I caught my boyfriend in bed with my best friend and. 401 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: Sister A lot of people in one room. 402 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: Hi. 403 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 5: I'm twenty one female from the Philippines, currently finishing my 404 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 5: final requirements to graduate this September with a degree in 405 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: civil engineering. My boyfriend River twenty three. Mail and I 406 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 5: had been together for two years. We met back in 407 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: junior year of high school and were friends for years 408 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: before we started dating on July nineteenth, twenty twenty three. 409 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 5: I genuinely thought that our long history and deep friendship 410 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 5: meant we had built a solid foundation for our relationship. 411 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 5: I was clearly wrong, and that realization would shatter everything I. 412 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: Believed about love and trust. 413 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from a deleted user on 414 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: the Charlotte Doobray YouTube subreddit, and if you want to 415 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 5: submit your own stories, come on over to the Archlange 416 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 5: Olgange story name jump ready. 417 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Dakota, I'm Riley, I'm key On Yay. He's 418 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: the story. 419 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: So last week was our second anniversary. The night before, 420 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: he texted saying he was sick and couldn't celebrate. I 421 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: was worried sick about him, so I spent the evening 422 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: cooking his favorite warm porridge from scratch, carefully cutting up 423 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 5: fresh fruits and putting everything in containers to bring to 424 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: his place. 425 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: No, she's pulling a sophia. 426 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: She's cooking porridge. 427 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: She's putting the you know containers, she's using ice cream containers. 428 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: Ice cream containers. 429 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's Filipino. 430 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 5: I wanted to surprise him and take care of him, 431 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 5: because that's what you do for someone you love. Right, 432 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: Using the spare key he'd given me months ago, a 433 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: key that once symbolized the trust in our future together, 434 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 5: I quietly entered his house. What I walked into was 435 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 5: the most devastating, soul crushing scene of my entire life. 436 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 5: He was in bed with my best friend Camilla twenty 437 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: two female, and my oldest sister Bianca twenty five female, together, 438 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: all three of them. Oh my gosh, he never trusted Camilla. 439 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: Threesome, Oh my gosh. 440 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: Hmmmm mmmm, in the very bedroom where we used to 441 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 5: spend lazy afternoons watching movies and talking about our dreams. 442 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 5: I froze completely, feeling my entire chest cave in like 443 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 5: someone had physically. 444 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: Given me the old one. 445 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: Two. 446 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: The containers of food slipped from my hands. I couldn't 447 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 5: process what I was seeing in my mind went blank. 448 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 5: Without making a single sound, I turned around and walked 449 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: out like a ghost. I sat in my car in 450 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 5: the driveway, crying until I couldn't breathe properly, gasping for 451 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 5: air between sobs. Eventually, when I could see clearly enough 452 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: to drive, I went to a close friend's house let 453 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: me stay the night without asking too many questions. The 454 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: betrayal cut deeper because I'm still a virgin by a 455 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: personal choice. Early in our relationship, I was completely honest 456 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 5: with River about wanting to wait until after college and marriage. 457 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: This wasn't about religion or conservative values. It was about 458 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: wanting to finish my education, prove myself professionally, and be 459 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 5: with someone who truly valued me and saw a. 460 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: Real future together. 461 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 5: I wanted my first time to be meaningful with someone 462 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: who loved and respected me completely. 463 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: And River said, I don't care about all that. 464 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: Riverside, Yeah, said do that. 465 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: Why is your older sister's name. 466 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: River said, that's really unfair for your boyfriend. 467 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: Oh that's me. 468 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 5: He said, oh yeah, your boyfriend probably not like that 469 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 5: for rit This is just River. This is not for 470 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: all men, and this is just how. 471 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: River was talking. Would have talked, maybe. 472 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Oh his name is River? Oh I thought I thought 473 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: her best friend was No, he's River. Oh okay, okay. 474 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: He said, Oh, that's really unfair for me. That's what 475 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: I say. 476 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 477 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 5: River would occasionally try to be subtle about it. He'd 478 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 5: say things like you love me when I so, why 479 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 5: can't we boy, or we've been together so long, don't 480 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 5: you trust me? 481 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 4: Or other couples our age are doing it. 482 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: Each time, I'd patiently explain my reasons again, and he 483 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: would nod and say he respected my decision. He'd even 484 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: say things like I love you for who you are, 485 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 5: not what you can give me. Looking back, now, maybe 486 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 5: those were all lies. Maybe he never really respected my 487 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 5: boundaries at all. Bianca has always harbored resentment towards me, 488 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 5: though I never fully understood why until now. She's four 489 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 5: years older and was an only child for a long 490 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: time before I came along. 491 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: No, four years Well. 492 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 5: I guess that actually is a pretty crucial formative age 493 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: for a sibling to come along. 494 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: Huh. I wouldn't know. 495 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. Sam and Sophia, myself and my sister. 496 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. 497 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: They don't seem like they just hate each other, because 498 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: it's like girl, I had it. 499 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: Made only child, only child, I had it made you did. 500 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Sorry. 501 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: She's four years older and was an only child for 502 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: a long time before I came along. Growing up, she 503 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: would make cutting comments that made me feel unwanted and unloved, 504 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 5: saying things like I had stolen our parents' attention from her, 505 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 5: or that our family was happier. 506 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: Before I was born. 507 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: How would she know? 508 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: She's a baby. 509 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: That's weird, but you're a baby. 510 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: You're both babies in this situation. Mm mm hmm. 511 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 5: She's never missed an opportunity to remind me that I 512 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 5: was the accidental child, even though our parents never made 513 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: me feel that way. Despite all her coldness and cruelty, 514 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 5: over the years, I kept trying to bridge the gap 515 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 5: between us. I would buy her thoughtful gifts, include her 516 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: in my plans, and defend her when friends criticized her behavior. 517 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 5: I genuinely wanted a sisterly relationship, but she never let 518 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: me in. Camilla was different, like the sister. I never 519 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 5: had best friends since kindergarten. I trusted her with everything, 520 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 5: including my suspicions about my boyfriend possibly cheating. She acted 521 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 5: shocked and angry when I mentioned it. Now I wonder 522 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 5: if that was all fake, if she was part of 523 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 5: the betrayal all along. 524 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: That is so wild. I hate that, dude. I'm so sorry, 525 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: Opie getting portrayed by three people two and a half, 526 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: two and a half. The sister not. 527 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 5: Give her the one yeah yeah, getting it from all sides. 528 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: He was getting it from all sides. 529 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 5: Oh ah. I'm caught between wanting to find this funny 530 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: and understanding that this is probably the worst thing that 531 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: has ever ever happened to this person, Like, I want 532 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: to make this funny so bad, but this is just 533 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: straight up the worst thing that has ever happened to 534 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 5: op Yeah. 535 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, ever you can, this is what we think making 536 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: light of it is helpful. 537 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 5: So I haven't told my family yet, and the thought 538 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 5: terrifies me. We come from a wealthy but deeply conservative 539 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: household where appearances matter immensely. My father built a successful 540 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 5: business from nothing and we live very comfortably. 541 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: But with that comfort comes expectations. 542 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: I've always felt enormous pressure to behave perfectly and stay 543 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 5: quiet about problems and never cause drama or bring shame 544 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 5: to our family name. Here in the Philippines, cultural norms 545 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: are different. Most of us live with family until marriage 546 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: or finishing school. 547 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 4: Moving out at. 548 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 5: Eighteen and starting over isn't realistic or socially acceptable like. 549 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 4: It might be in other countries. 550 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: I'm essentially trapped in this situation until i can figure 551 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: out how to navigate it properly. 552 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's triggy that the family name thing is 553 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: a hard part of this because you can definitely out 554 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: your sister to your parents and say, hey, this is 555 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: what happened. Being the people pleaser you are, it's a tricky, 556 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: uh puzzle to solve. 557 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the family name thing is very uh. 558 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: It happens all over the place. You know. It's just 559 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: like a if i'd some friends like that where it's 560 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: like you cannot you cannot bring shame upon. 561 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: Actually it'd be more like you cannot bring shameful family night. 562 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 5: It's really like Georgia, small town Georgia, small town Georgia, 563 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 5: big big, big, old, big breeches, big bitches in small 564 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: town Georgia. 565 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. 566 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: Shoey dog hunters can't have no problems in the family. Yeah, 567 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 5: your big riches down there and. 568 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: You just gotta let it happen. Oh boy. 569 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. I told a few trusted friends who urged me 570 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 5: to confront all three of them, But I'm not confrontational. 571 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 5: I hate arguments and freeze up when emotions run high. 572 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: If I tried confronting them, I'd just break down while 573 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 5: they denied everything. It made me feel small. What could 574 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 5: they deny you were you saw them? 575 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: OPI has been won by the sister, made feel very small, 576 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: like a small person, and never like respected by her sister. 577 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: Her best friend was the one that portrayed her and 578 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I can't believe your boyfriend. Whatever she 579 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: on you blah blah blahlah blah, and three she trusted 580 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: her boyfriend that I think they would all they know 581 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: what kind of person she is and they know how 582 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: they can take advantage of her people pleasing self, So 583 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: they would deny be like, you don't even know what 584 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: you have. You have no proof, I don't know what 585 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about. That's crazy that I would ever do that, 586 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: while the sister would be his sister would be making 587 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: face like this. I would never do anything like that 588 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: all the time. 589 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: Be be you know what you're talking about? 590 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Bet exactly. 591 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: So instead of confronting then I blocked them with no 592 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 5: warning and no final words, I just left. Now I 593 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 5: keep wondering was I wrong for cutting them off without 594 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 5: saying anything? Should I have confronted them first, or did 595 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 5: they not deserve even that. I'm not seeking revenge. I 596 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 5: just wanted to protect my piece and hold on to 597 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: what little dignity I have left. But part of me 598 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 5: still wonders if I'm handling this right. I'm heartbroken and angry, 599 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 5: missing school for almost a week because I could not 600 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: face the Yet and there is an update. 601 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have the possibility of moving away too, 602 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: or can you. 603 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Just block them and studying? Yeah? 604 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Can you just block them and just not talk to 605 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: your sister about you're at home? You still have to 606 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: see your sister. This is a very tough thing. 607 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: Will be another threesome with another set of people. Find 608 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 5: Rivers brother and also his best friend. 609 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: But she doesn't want to do that. She was the way. 610 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: It's not about revenge. It's about principle. 611 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: It's not about revenge. It's about finding Joe. It's about 612 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: finding Vinlin. 613 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: I'm just joking. 614 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: That would be a power movie. No, no, no, no, not 615 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: Rivers brothers Dad. Gross? 616 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: Uh? 617 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: How's that gross? 618 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, this story is. I don't know 619 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 5: what to say about any of this other than just 620 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 5: like arch Nemesis, it's really unfair that this is now 621 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 5: somehow your burden to bear when it should just be 622 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: like your family should be coming to. 623 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: Terms with your your aid and banish. 624 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. And it's just really unfortunate that it's kind 625 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 4: of thing and shaming her. That sucks. That big sucks. 626 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: So like, yeah, what does SO do? 627 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, get yeah, get out of there 628 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: if you if your life is gonna be like miserable 629 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 5: in the Philippines, get out of Philippines. 630 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: Finish your school, and then get out of the Philippines. 631 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll trade spots with you. Op. 632 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Really, you don't want to hang out with us anymore? 633 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: Key on, No, you guys can come visit me in 634 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: the Philippines. 635 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to hang out with us anymore. 636 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: Check and he'll take over the family business and then 637 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 4: we'll be rolling in it. 638 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: Wait, you have family business in Philippines. 639 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some I got some farms and stuff. 640 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. You never told me that. 641 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 5: I was talking about the story, But this is news 642 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 5: to me. You have farms in the Philippines. Family Okay, 643 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 5: all right, Farmville. 644 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: Let's go. I got a tree farm back, throw it back. 645 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have mango trees. And stuff throw it back. 646 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I love that for you. 647 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to the update. 648 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 5: My parents and I went to a quiet before I 649 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 5: told them everything. I was shaking, unable to eat despite 650 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 5: their insistence. Once we finished, I finally shared what happened. Initially, 651 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: they didn't believe me, which is understandable when it involves 652 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 5: their own daughter. 653 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: You know, you're their own daughter as well. 654 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 5: They've always emphasized how we sisters should stick together, saying 655 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: you're supposed to be each other's best friend. But then 656 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: I showed them the photo I'd taken and I broke down, 657 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: completely ugly, crying, where your whole body aches in a 658 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 5: way I had lost someone. We went straight home afterward, 659 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 5: so they just didn't acknowledge that you just had a 660 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: complete breakdown, and they just like sat there in silence 661 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: and did nothing. 662 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: Your parents suck and I hate. 663 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Them, and you brought shame to the family. 664 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, they should be ashamed. 665 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 5: They should be ashamed that they're completely inept parents who 666 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 5: can't emotionally be there for their daughter when she's just 667 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: literally had like the worst thing that could ever happen. 668 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: You know, you know it happened to her. So they suck. 669 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: I don't have anything else to say. 670 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yike's Bianca was casually popcorn and watching a movie 671 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 5: when we arrived, acting like nothing happened. Hold on chance 672 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: to redeem right here. When my dad saw her, he 673 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: snapped at her. 674 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 4: Okay. 675 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: Bianca cried and tried defending herself, even blaming me for 676 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 5: ruining everything. 677 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: But this time our parents didn't take her side. They 678 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: told her to leave. Okay, we're redeeming. We're redeeming. 679 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: Go to River's house. 680 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 5: Dad cut off her credit cards, Mom packed her things, 681 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: and she was removed from the premises that night. No yelling, 682 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 5: no long goodbye, just silence and disappointment. 683 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: Holy cown. 684 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: I know my parents are hurting. She is still their daughter. 685 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 5: But they told me they had to draw the line 686 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 5: and were proud of me for speaking up. 687 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: They protected me. 688 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: When I felt so small, and I'm grateful. I take 689 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: back everything I said earlier. 690 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: I take it back. 691 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't. 692 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: I was wrong. 693 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: I handle that though, right, William, Although. 694 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 5: I would have liked to hear some kind of like oh, 695 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: and then they gave me a big hug. 696 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 697 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: They just hey that this is a thing and just 698 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: removed the bad thing. From and now they're not gonna 699 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: talk about it. 700 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: I have I think you're right. 701 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 5: Actually, they they literally just did this like a logical 702 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 5: like this was a business decision. They've weighed the scales 703 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 5: and they're like, the worst person here is Bianca, So 704 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 5: then we'll we'll be mad at her, but we're not 705 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 5: going to be the be emotional about this. 706 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: This is a this is just a logic decision. 707 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Two daughters, No, we only have one. We only have 708 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: one daughter. We've always had one daughter. 709 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: We only had one, only ever had one. 710 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. 711 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 5: So as for River, I saw him at school Monday. 712 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: He looked happy to see me, like nothing had happened, 713 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 5: which is insane. When he called my name and approached, 714 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 5: I looked him straight in the eyes and said. 715 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 4: We're done. We are done, and then I walked away 716 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 4: without crying or flinching. I was just done. 717 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: It still hurts, and I have nightmares every night and 718 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: moments we're remembering makes me sick. But I won't let 719 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 5: this destroy me. As Judge Lauren Lake once set, the 720 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: best revenge is success. Shout out, shouts out skis to 721 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 5: that lady. 722 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I love that mid story. Never have you ever gotten 723 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: that before. Just like Judge Larson once said. 724 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: Judge Lincoln Lawyer once said, all right, all right, all right, 725 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 5: I fully intend to live by that mantra. Two months 726 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 5: from now, I'll officially be a civil engineering graduate. That's 727 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 5: where my energy will go, rebuilding myself, proving that betrayal 728 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 5: doesn't break me and it redirects me. As for Camilla, 729 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 5: I haven't seen her again. I heard she dropped out 730 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: after her parents found out and disowned her. I didn't 731 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: expect that, and while I didn't contact them directly, the 732 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: truth found its way. Actions have consequences. I'm healing slowly, painfully, 733 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 5: but getting there. Thank you to everyone who reached out. 734 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 5: You reminded me I'm not alone. And there's a final update. 735 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: Hey, John og Host, We're gonna get back to the stories, 736 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: but a quick freemanute break of ads from our sponsors. 737 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: Godly, dude, golly. 738 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: I think the parents could have gone about this better 739 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: and not abandoned their child, and I think everything else. 740 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: You're not gonna talk to your best friend anymore. I 741 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: know that for a fact, and telling you're done, I'm surprised. 742 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: And when Beyonger got kicked out, she didn't hit up 743 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: River's phone said hey, this is what happened. 744 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 4: You know what? The boy? 745 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, why did the bionca not hit up the 746 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: river and be like hey, can I state your place? 747 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: Or I got caught or yaha ya YadA. 748 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 749 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 5: It seems like they were literally acting like it didn't happen, 750 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: Like it's like a little hey, so that that was crazy? 751 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Right now, when you saw those ghosts, I'm thinking like, 752 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: did it happen? 753 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: Did you took too many benadryls? Babe? You tried to 754 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: hog you down, not the hog you day? 755 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 5: And if you don't know what the heck I'm talking about, 756 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 5: you need to watch our stream from yesterday, August twelfth, 757 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six. 758 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: A great day. Yeah, final update. 759 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: I saw Camilla's post and replies last Wednesday, the day 760 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: I had planned to update you, but I lost courage 761 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 5: reading it broke me in ways I didn't think I 762 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 5: could still break. 763 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: Let's just finish this story. Do I deserve this? 764 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 7: No? 765 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 4: Depending on the karmic you know, retribution of your previous lives, 766 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: you didn't. Maybe, but I would say no, yeah. 767 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: You did not deserve this. Sister didn't deserve this. 768 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: Either, Was I really that naive and easy to betray? 769 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 5: I gave him everything except my body, my time, my 770 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 5: unwavering love, my emotional support, my care and attention. I 771 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 5: was the one helping him with his toughest assignments when 772 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 5: he was struggling, working on his projects until three am, 773 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 5: supporting him through his demanding internship, and listening to all 774 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 5: of his family problems for hours when he needed someone 775 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: to vent to, to lean on. 776 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 4: To celebrate with. 777 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 5: I was always there, without question always Why did she 778 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 5: pretend to care about my feelings and offer advice about 779 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 5: my relationship while she was actively destroying it from the inside. 780 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 5: Why does it feel like everyone around me knew what 781 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 5: was happening except me? Should I look for answers or 782 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 5: will finding the truth hurt more than help. I don't 783 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 5: know how to move on yet, but I'm trying. This 784 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 5: isn't for pity. It's for me to breathe and release 785 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 5: and remind myself I'm still here even though I'm broken. 786 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: To anyone going through something similar, you are not alone. 787 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 5: Maybe someday we'll look back and be proud of the 788 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 5: strength it took just to survive. For now, it day 789 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 5: by day, Please be kind. I think that is the 790 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: end of that story. 791 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I think to find closure is the main goal, so 792 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: do you If you need to find more evidence, not 793 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: more evidence, but more information and figure out what happened 794 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: to achieve closure, that's what you have to do. But 795 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is just close that chapter 796 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: in your life and to move on. However you do, 797 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: that is what you gotta do. Girl, New life. 798 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so close new life. You literally said it yourself. 799 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: You're so close to what being a civil engineer? 800 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, new life. 801 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: Focus on your schoolwork now you have less distractions, Focus 802 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: on yourself, focus on a support group that's good for you, 803 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: your friends, your family, and get out of there. Go 804 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: to somewhere and you start new and. 805 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: Start a new world. 806 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: I agree, get out. 807 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: I can't believe that's the end of that story. Can 808 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: you see there's an update? 809 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: I will check. I found it. 810 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: No, yeah, you found it found on his post? Okay, 811 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: are you gonna put it in? How long is it? 812 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: It's not that long actually, But it also just seems 813 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: like rage bait. The title is literally, am I the 814 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 2: a hole for something? Sleeping with my best friend's boyfriend 815 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: and joining a treesome with him and her sister. 816 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 4: Like, yes, stupid, of course you are. 817 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: I don't think we need to read that. 818 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: Yes, dumb, dumb, Oh that's not her sister, that's the friend. 819 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: That's the friend. It's it's it's not the sister's post, 820 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: it's a friend's post. 821 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, if yeah, we don't need to read that. Of course. 822 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 4: Of course you're the a hole for that. Stupid. 823 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense because again, like op deleted 824 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: this post deleted, that just sounds like rage bait to me. 825 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 4: Who knows, dude, it's it's certainly. 826 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: Like apparently Okay, so I'm reading it. Yeah, karma ming ming, 827 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: rage bait, karma farming. Yeah, they apparently they were doing 828 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: this little thing. I guess the river was cheating for 829 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 2: six months oka. 830 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just yet they suck. He sucks. Move on, 831 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: I'm reading that was funny. 832 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm reading this. This is such rage bait. It's like 833 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: you're reading it. 834 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 4: I thought you were being like, no, I'm gonna read it. 835 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: The snippets that I was reading it is like it 836 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: just type, it's typed out. 837 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 5: It's gonna be like yeah, It's like I didn't really 838 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 5: want to but it's like then like, I don't know. 839 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 4: He looked at me. 840 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 5: He said I was cute, and I was like, I 841 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 5: mean I have to sleep with you. 842 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: Now. 843 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: The title alone, guys, the title alone is just like, 844 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: am I the hate a hole for doing that to 845 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: my best friend? Yeah? The answer is yes, a little 846 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: different sentences throw away account because yeah, things got messy 847 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: and apparently people are posting private drama here now, yeah. 848 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 4: People are posting private drama on the internet. 849 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: Do fast, I'll do a poll, but I really people 850 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: when I found the friend's post, but it's so rage 851 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: rage bait. It's just rage bait. The title of it, 852 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 2: Riley is. 853 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: Am my friend friend? 854 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 2: What's the It's literally like, am I the a hole 855 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: for sleeping with my best friend's boyfriend and joining a 856 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 2: threesome with my with him and her sister? 857 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: Yes? 858 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: Do you okay, do you guys really want to read it? 859 00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: Yes? 860 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: I I don't think I will put in the story, 861 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: but I'm just. 862 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: Why not it's not relevant? But do you mean it's 863 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: not relevant? 864 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,959 Speaker 5: She's just being like, yeah, I stup with this guy 865 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 5: and okay whatever, everyone wants to hear it, Okay, go 866 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 5: ahead and read it. 867 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm going to just go ahead and have 868 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: you guys read it? Who I want? Who wants to 869 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: read it? 870 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: No, you don't want to read it? 871 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: Want me to read it. I I'm looking away from 872 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: the camera. 873 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: That's why we're gonna put on the chat one. So 874 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: you look at the camera. 875 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let me wait this one 876 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 2: short wait. Yeah, because the original post was on there too. 877 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: But the original post is this just. 878 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: Feels like someone trying to get on that. I don't know. 879 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hold read it. 880 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 5: I want to rage, stop it. Why would you want that? 881 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 5: Why would you want to rage? That's not cool. 882 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: I found we found out that that he was cheating 883 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: for six months. 884 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: I think this is fake. Yeah, this is fake. 885 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: I never meant to hurt anyone. I just followed my heart. 886 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: Her and I were happy. He chose me, not her. 887 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: He was even planning to break things up with her 888 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: and be with me instead. I was loyal. I just 889 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: in my own way. So read it? Am I they able? 890 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 891 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: No, no, no, this is Scott zero up vote. 892 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was your best friend. Yeah, I slept 893 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: with her boyfriend. Yeah, I joined to treat him with 894 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: him and her sister, But am I they a whole 895 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: It's like, come on. 896 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: Guys, yeah you are. 897 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 5: It's we're not gonna just raise our blood pressure for 898 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 5: absolutely no reason. 899 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah it's fake because one, that's not kind of the 900 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: character that Opie described her friend having. In two, there's 901 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: zero up votes, and three no one really commented on this. 902 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 1: This isn't real, and it's from deleted. 903 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're deleted from both op and the friend. Yeah yeah, 904 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: someone did say off the chance, on. 905 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 4: The off chance this is real? 906 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah real? 907 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: Nobody is this dumb? 908 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: Right, I'm moderately reiterated. This is what it did. It 909 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: reiterated what happened in the story, added a few fault 910 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: like things to it, and then basically confirmed what happened. 911 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: It didn't say, but it didn't give us new information 912 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: of hey, I try to reach out to Ope and 913 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: try to get things to work out. It doesn't mention 914 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: anything like that ago. 915 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 5: It's because it's and it's also like throwaway account because 916 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 5: things got messy. And then it says I'm Camilla. It's like, 917 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 5: what are you talking about? Why you need you are? 918 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 2: You're putting the names of literally the same characters. I'm Camilla. Bianca, 919 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: the sister's name River. 920 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not actually given the real names. Yep, weird 921 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 1: all right. Anyways, we're gonna get to the next story. 922 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: I can't trust my boyfriend after he lied for his 923 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: best friend deception. My boyfriend, Chris twenty eight mal and 924 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: I twenty six female, have been dating for three years. 925 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: We're both teachers and met at work. For this incident, 926 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: I would have gone on about how I found the 927 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: most perfect man, that he was the one. Chris was 928 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: at school for the four years before I joined. About 929 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: seven years ago, the school was taking on quite a 930 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: few trainees. Ten other training teachers joined alongside him and 931 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: created a tight knit friend group. By the way, this 932 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: comes from deleted and if you want to spit your 933 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: own stories, go to the r slash Showkase stories. I'm Suburdt, 934 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm Riley. 935 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, and I'm Keon. 936 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: So the holiday together best man slash made of honor 937 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: at each other's weddings type of friends. Since Chris and 938 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: I have started dating, I've been adopted into this new group. 939 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: I have no issues with any of them, but it's 940 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: been implied that I'm being tolerated by some of them 941 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: for his sake. I really don't care. I keep to 942 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: myself and only feel comfortable around select people. There's been 943 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: some drama in group recently that it's caused me to 944 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: re evaluate my relationship. Two teachers joined the group, Bethany 945 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: and John joined the same time as Chris did and 946 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: started dating within the first year. John proposed to her 947 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: about two years ago, but as far as I know, 948 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: they haven't thought of wedding planning at all. Chris said 949 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: John proposed to Bethany because he felt he had to 950 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: after so many years. About a month ago, we had 951 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 1: a week off and the group went on a night out. 952 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: I joined them after Chris insisted, and only stayed until 953 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: about eleven since I wasn't feeling very well. I asked 954 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: Chris the next morning if anything of note happened, and 955 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: he just shrugged and said he couldn't remember since he 956 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: got so pissed and wasted, and that they were just 957 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: being idiots. I didn't think anything of it and we 958 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: enjoyed her holiday. This Monday, I went into the secondary 959 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: staff room for lunch and saw Bethany sitting by herself 960 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: from there. The staff room is situated on the second floor, 961 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 1: of the school, and apart from myself and one other teacher, 962 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: no one comes here unless they need to hide something 963 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: when our rooms get inspected. I asked why she was 964 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: in here today instead of eating lunch with John. She 965 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: glared at me and left, slamming the door on her 966 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: way out. I told Chris what happened, and he told 967 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: me just to ignore it and not to get involved, 968 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: that John and her were going through a rough time. 969 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: I saw both of them at school a couple of 970 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: times this week, and she either looked on the verge 971 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: of tears or furious, and he seemed absolutely normal. At 972 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day. Yesterday, I was packing up 973 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: and getting ready to leave for the day when Bethany 974 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: knocked on my door and asked to speak with me 975 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: real quick. Any theories. 976 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: Somebody kissed someone they shouldn't have. 977 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, Chris kiss Bethany. 978 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 4: It's just like a It's. 979 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: A rock and a hard bit started out with a kiss. 980 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: How did it end up like this? Yes, it was 981 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 2: only a kiss. It was only a kiss, like a pet. 982 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: Rock hates it when I say that. 983 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 4: This guy's crazy. 984 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 5: I feel like we all know what's going on. It's 985 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 5: gotta be like an ultimatum type situation. 986 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: You go, look, dude, you either. 987 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 5: Tell her what happened, or like, I'm gonna have to 988 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 5: say something or black men, but like you should say 989 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 5: what happened, cause it's like you did something. Chris, whoever's 990 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 5: the offending party needs to you know, if you're actually 991 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 5: like you know, if you're friends with everyone here, like 992 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 5: this has happened me once before a friend reached out 993 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 5: and was like, I did this thing. I don't know 994 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 5: what to do, and I'm like, you have two I'm like, 995 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 5: I don't know this other person. I have no skin 996 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 5: in the game. You have two options. I've known you 997 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 5: for a decade more, I've known you forever. You your 998 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 5: option is either tell them immediately or never ever say 999 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 5: anything and deal with it for the rest of your life. 1000 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 5: Those your two options. I guess you're gonna have to 1001 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,479 Speaker 5: pick one. I think I know which one I'd pick. 1002 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 5: Not the one that would torment me for the rest 1003 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 5: of my life. 1004 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: M yeah. So at the end of the day yesterday 1005 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: I was packing up and getting ready to leave when 1006 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: Beth and He knocked on my door and asked to 1007 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: speak to me. I didn't want to have a conversation 1008 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: with her after her reaction on Monday and the way 1009 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: she was snapping all week, But she looked so angry 1010 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't say no. Bethy and I had never really 1011 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: gotten along when I first joined. She would purposely do 1012 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: stuff for leave me out, like turn her back towards 1013 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: me when I tried to talk to her in the 1014 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: friend group, or talk about plans in front of me 1015 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 1: that I was not invited to. She made some comments 1016 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: when Chris and I started dating, like he was settling 1017 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: for me. Really drew an all mean girl stuff. She 1018 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: came in fully stormed towards me and said I was 1019 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: a fake witch for not telling her the truth. I 1020 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: had no clue what she was talking about and told 1021 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: her she needed to step back or I report her 1022 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: a HR that seemed to snap her out of it. 1023 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: She started snobbing suddenly and literally sat on the floor. 1024 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: I felt like I was dealing with an unruly student. 1025 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: I had no clue what to do. I tried to 1026 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: calm her down and asked her what happened. She told 1027 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: me John had slept with someone the night everyone went 1028 00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: out and I left early. Hmmm, apparently all the guys 1029 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: left the pub. We were initially at to go to 1030 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: a club and there was a teacher assistants who also 1031 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: works at the school. Jess joined them and her and 1032 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: John had spicy sleep in the bathroom. So the ta 1033 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: and John had spicy sleep in the bathroom. 1034 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 4: Okay, how'd we find that out? How do we know 1035 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 4: about that? 1036 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: She was just assisting him in the bathroom? 1037 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: And is there Johnson? I was about to come out 1038 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: of this. 1039 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 2: John's John john Son Son, John John, Yeah from Mars. 1040 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: Just keep your Johnson and your pants. John. Hey, it's 1041 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: John here. 1042 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick 1043 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: three minute break with aswerm Our sponsors. 1044 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: I asked how she found out. She told me she 1045 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: saw some text between Jess and John that night they 1046 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: had slept together, and they slept together three more times. 1047 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: She told me she also saw texts between Chris and John, 1048 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 1: and that Chris knew about what had happened that night 1049 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: and that he had covered for John that night. I 1050 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: told her I needed a proof and that I wasn't 1051 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: going to believe her over my boyfriend and Chris got 1052 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: home yesterday after the gym, I decided to talk to 1053 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: him about it. I told him straight out what Bethany 1054 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: said to me, and that she accused him of hiding it. 1055 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: He was quiet for a moment, but I already knew 1056 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: the truth. He looked too guilty. I felt sick in 1057 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: that moment. Bethany had been his friend for years and 1058 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: he let her get betrayed in such a big way 1059 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: and hid it as well. He tried defending himself and 1060 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: said he told John to tell her the truth and 1061 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't his place to expose him. I said, I 1062 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: wanted to see it. I wanted to see the evidence 1063 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: of him telling John to come clean. We're not the 1064 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: type of couple that checks each other's phones and stuff. 1065 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: I've never not trusted Chris, even before we started dating. 1066 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: He was my closest friend, and I've always felt like 1067 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: my heart was safe with him. I've always believed him 1068 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: if he told me something, but finding this out shook 1069 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: my confidence in him. He handed over his phone and 1070 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: I looked through the messages between him and John. The 1071 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: first one regarding this incident was the following morning, where 1072 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: John was kind of laughing off that what he had 1073 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: done as a little oopsie, and Chris just wrote back, 1074 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: you aft up just make sure you drink enough over 1075 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: the half term to forget about. Great advice from a 1076 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: good old friend. 1077 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 5: Not really the advice I was hoping to see. 1078 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: I just become a little alcoholic. They don't have to 1079 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: remember it. 1080 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 4: Well, if you binge drink, you might forget you did it. 1081 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 4: Ah bad, That not a great not a great look. 1082 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: There was nothing there about owning up to his mistake 1083 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 1: and telling about the need of the truth. I look 1084 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: through the messages and every time they reference that night, 1085 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: it was with such cavalier, nonchalant attitude, like John had 1086 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: it committed the ultimate betrayal. Chris insisted he had told 1087 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: John to come clean, but that they had talked about 1088 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: it face to face. But I don't know if I 1089 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: believe him. I do sincerely believe you are the company 1090 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: you keep. And while I really didn't enjoy how lad 1091 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: Chris would get when he was around John and the 1092 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: rest of the group, I really did think they were 1093 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: good people and albeit a bit immature. But John is 1094 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: basically quite vile person, and seeing Chris laugh off his 1095 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: transgressions has made me cautious. 1096 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 4: Mm So's saying, it's like he becomes like a little 1097 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 4: lads lads, lads, boys, Boys, Boys for the Boys. 1098 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: For the boys, for the boys. 1099 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 5: I mean, like you can do that, but like if somebody, dude, like, 1100 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 5: if anyone in this room like cheated on any one 1101 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 5: of their partners and I witnessed it, I'd be like, 1102 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 5: that's literally like you literally ultimately have to tell them, 1103 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 5: because why should I have to tell them? 1104 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 4: That's messed up? Well, I don't want to have to 1105 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 4: do that. 1106 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: If I saw anyone's room cheating, I would ultimate them 1107 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: and be like, you either tell them or I'm telling 1108 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: them at the end of the week. 1109 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 5: You have X amount of time to come clean about 1110 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 5: this or I'm gonna have to And that's so dumb. 1111 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: Mm hm ah yeah ah. I don't want to break 1112 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: up over this. How do I tell him that his 1113 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: reaction has caused me to lose some trust in him 1114 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: and that it's made me think that he is also 1115 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: capable of doing the same thing to me. I talked 1116 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: to my sister about this. She thinks this is a 1117 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 1: break up offense. But I've had a couple of people 1118 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: say I'm overreacting. Am I overreacting? You sleep with the dogs, 1119 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: you get the fleas. 1120 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 2: Damn. 1121 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 4: Dang you sleep with the dogs, you get the fleas. 1122 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: Dang yep, dang. 1123 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean accurate, accurate, accurate. 1124 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: Good job. I've ever heard that actually, really yeah. 1125 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: I've heard that so many dolls much all of them 1126 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: thought everybody. 1127 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 4: Dogs you get to flee. I mean, like, is this 1128 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 4: a breakupa offense like it could be? It just depends 1129 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 4: on like. 1130 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 5: Where you're It depends on where you're at, you know, 1131 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 5: like beyond his like reaction to it, I think if 1132 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 5: he would have just been honest about it and been like, yeah, 1133 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 5: like I don't know. I just like made a joke 1134 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 5: about it because I was like super uncomfortable. 1135 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to say. That's one thing. 1136 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 5: But the fact that he was like, no, I totally 1137 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 5: told him he had to, you know, he's like I 1138 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 5: told him. 1139 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1140 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 5: The fact that he lied about what he said makes 1141 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 5: me feel like it's that's what's more breakup worthy than 1142 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 5: the fact that he Because not everyone's gonna be like, 1143 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 5: oh you have to tell her, I will. 1144 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 4: It's like, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad. 1145 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 5: It's just some people mind their own business and that's 1146 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 5: the code that they live by. 1147 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't want to get caught in the crossfire, 1148 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 2: you know, like it's your drama, not mine kind of things. 1149 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's minds, weak mindset. Honestly, Well, you don't 1150 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: care about your friends enough to keep him accountable. Weak minds. 1151 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean some people are just not strong. 1152 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 4: There's a spectrum of friends. 1153 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 5: But if these guys are best best friends, then yeah, 1154 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 5: it should definitely be more like a you know, it 1155 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 5: just depends like there, there's definitely a spectrum on like 1156 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 5: how much I would have to know somebody before I'm like, 1157 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna stick my neck out and like insert myself 1158 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 5: into this situation. 1159 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: Read yeah, you have an update. I like to think 1160 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: of myself someone with strong morals, and after reading the comments, 1161 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: I felt like I had been my beliefs because I 1162 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: loved my boyfriend and in turn had some kind of 1163 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: betrayal myself. So I had a good, long decision with 1164 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: Chris the day after I posted, and told him how 1165 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: disappointing his behavior was and if he could hide such 1166 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: a big seat for John, then he was capable of 1167 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: hiding something like this for himself as well. I couldn't 1168 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: be with someone who not only was fine with cheating, 1169 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: but actively lie to a friend about it, since Chris 1170 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: and Beth and he were friends as well. He looked 1171 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: awfully ashamed as I vented out my feelings, and the 1172 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: only time he was defensive was when I said he 1173 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: was capable of cheating on me. He said he loved me, 1174 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: that he would never touch another woman and risk losing me. 1175 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: I believe he hasn't cheated on me, but after this incident, 1176 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: the unshakable trust I had in him wavered slightly, and 1177 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: I let him know. 1178 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 4: That I mean it is. 1179 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 5: It is pretty crazy to probably read like, ah, if 1180 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 5: you just like drinking, if you'll forget about it. 1181 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 4: It's like, have you done that? Yeah? 1182 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: Have you? 1183 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 4: Have you done that? 1184 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: You have been drinking a lot recently. Does that mean? 1185 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, what are you trying to forget? 1186 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? It's just a bad It's bad. It's bad. 1187 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: It's really bad. I told him I expected better that 1188 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: if a friend of his behaved in such a bad way, 1189 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: then he would take the time to correct them, or 1190 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: at the very least cut contact with people like that. 1191 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: That kind of mindset where cheating becomes acceptable, it's almost contagious. 1192 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: He said, he completely understood where I was coming from, 1193 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: and that he was disappointed in himself for letting us 1194 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: both down, and that he got caught up and being 1195 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: a wiener head with the guys. I said, if hanging 1196 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: out with those guys makes you a wiener head and 1197 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: stop effing being around them, it's not that hard. He 1198 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: fully acknowledges that real quick before the end the story. Boys, 1199 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 1: any other thoughts. 1200 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be how it's not. How he responds is 1201 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 2: how you know his actions Like, Okay, you acknowledge that, great, 1202 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: and you're listening to Op now, but where do you 1203 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 2: go from here? Is he really gonna do that? Do 1204 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 2: you really think he's going to separate himself from the boys? 1205 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1206 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 1207 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is one of those like the company you 1208 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 5: keep type things. 1209 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: You know, at some point, show me your five friends 1210 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: and I'll show you who you are. 1211 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 1212 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 5: It's funny when I lived in New Mexico, when my 1213 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 5: neighbors would always say weird he was married, and he 1214 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 5: would always say weird comments about other women and like 1215 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 5: women in general, and you know, even though he's married, 1216 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 5: and I'd always. 1217 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,919 Speaker 4: Be like, dude, you're married, why are you, Like, what. 1218 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 3: Do you do? 1219 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 4: I'd be like, ha, like what are you doing? You're married? 1220 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 4: But it's like I don't know well enough. 1221 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 5: To like try to like put like put like the 1222 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 5: screws into him. I'm like, you know whatever, Yeah, And 1223 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 5: it's not like I'm no authority over this guy that 1224 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 5: I'm like an acquaintance with. But guess what found out 1225 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 5: recently no longer with his wife and. 1226 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 4: It's probably with some girl that he cheated on her with. 1227 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 5: So it's like when people talk like that, it's like, yeah, 1228 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 5: they're not people's you listen, listen to people the way 1229 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 5: that they are. 1230 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: It's like people's talks lead to their actions. 1231 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then people, you know that, they're just like 1232 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 5: they could just justify it or whatever. 1233 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's people. 1234 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: Justifying things is scary. I used to justify buying camera 1235 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: women all the time. That was a scary time. A 1236 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 1: little bit left here, I said, I wanted to see 1237 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: more than words, to stay with my sister for a 1238 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 1: couple of days while he fixes his mistakes. He says 1239 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: he would proved to me that he could be better. 1240 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: So far in the past week, I know he had 1241 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: apologized to Bethany by hiding John's cheating since she came 1242 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: and told me. She said she wasn't ready to put 1243 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: everything behind them just yet, but appreciated Chris actually apologizing 1244 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: for hurting her. Since John hasn't bothered at work, Chris 1245 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,439 Speaker 1: and I have been cordial and no one knows we're 1246 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: not living together currently. He comes and he eats lunch 1247 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 1: with me instead of going to smoke with the guys 1248 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: like he used to do when we had just began dating, 1249 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: and even put up some shelves in my room for 1250 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: me since the site team was taking too long. He 1251 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: hasn't asked me to come back home yet, but says 1252 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: that he misses me and wants to give me my time. 1253 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: Him and John are still friends, and I can't imagine 1254 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: Chris will ever fully cut him off, no matter how 1255 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: big a prick he can be. But I can see 1256 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: that Chris is trying to make amends, and while I 1257 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: still feel upset and disappointed in his behavior, my heart 1258 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: softened towards him again, especially when I see him trying 1259 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: so hard. A part of me is worried that if 1260 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: we get back to normal, he'll eventually go back to 1261 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,919 Speaker 1: being a lad again. I do miss him a lot, 1262 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: but just need some objective advice. I like it. It's 1263 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: giving little love bomby, but it's good steps. 1264 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean like you just got to go your gut, dude. 1265 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, like if you feel like it's like this thing 1266 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 5: that's gonna be like an irreversible thing because. 1267 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 4: He did lie. 1268 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 5: He lied, He lied right to your face, because he 1269 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 5: knew that what he did was going to be bad. Yeah, 1270 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 5: and he lied any lied until it was like he 1271 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 5: couldn't maintain the lie anymore and he had to be like, Okay, well, 1272 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 5: I guess I well, and then he lied again, and 1273 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 5: he said I talked to him in person, and that's 1274 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 5: what I said. 1275 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: He finally saw the consequences of his lying, and now 1276 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: he's trying to make up for it. Which it sucks 1277 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: that you had to have your girlfriend talk to you 1278 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: about it instead of being a man and taking accountability 1279 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: for your actions and keeping accountability for your freaking friends. 1280 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. True, there's like, yeah, just keep drinking 1281 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: so you forget about it. 1282 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's' And I think I saw some comments 1283 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 5: about the my story about my neighbor. I feel like 1284 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 5: there's that's the difference between like a friend and an acquaintance. Yeah, 1285 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 5: it's like, I'm not going to go out of my 1286 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 5: way for someone I like barely know and be like 1287 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 5: this is what you I'm like, I'm just gonna be like, Okay, 1288 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 5: well I feel bad for that guy's wife, like and 1289 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna move on because trually, I only have so 1290 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 5: much I can everyone only has so much of a 1291 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 5: battery to like do that kind of stuff or like 1292 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 5: how much there's like the buckets or the cups or 1293 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it. It's like, if you're 1294 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 5: gonna get involved in someone's business, it better be somebody. 1295 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,439 Speaker 4: That you actually care about. And it's like that there's 1296 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 4: like some level of weight there wait or. 1297 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: Influence you can have on them. Yeah, I agree. Well 1298 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: that is the end of that story. That is a 1299 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: cursed episode all the way. 1300 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 4: Around, a cussing episode. 1301 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: But guys, end of that episode. If you love us, 1302 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe, We love you and see you tomorrow.