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Speaker 1: Good, good start to the season, did you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one and oh and we played playing Alabama on

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Speaker 2: Saturday and they did a number one tempo team. They

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Speaker 2: corn I put it out. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: They're the opposite of the New York Knicks. Last year,

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Speaker 3: Percentage the last five seconds was like abnormally high for

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Speaker 1: It was kind of high. But it was just the

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Speaker 1: fact that I was in the top ten in the

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Speaker 1: league of shots with like four or less, and it

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Speaker 1: was like it was like Jalen, James, Harden, Katie Shay,

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Speaker 1: all these like scoreres ice O players and then me

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Speaker 1: like number seven. I'm just like, I'm not supposed to

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Speaker 1: be in this list. But you know, we got a

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Speaker 1: fast paced team this year. So things are good. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: good starts of the year. Obviously, expectations are are high.

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Speaker 1: How do you taper that?

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Speaker 2: Obviously with you know, we've got a really good team.

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Speaker 2: We have an older team. I've got about four or

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Speaker 2: five guys that are twenty three years of age, so

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Speaker 2: they're experienced. They've they've played they've one guy's been at Kansas,

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Speaker 2: the other guy's been at Arizona State. Another person's been

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Speaker 2: older players. Ian Jackson was at North Carolina. Got a

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Speaker 2: couple of young guys that are really good. But we're

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Speaker 2: playing a great schedule. We play Alabama on Saturday, then

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Speaker 2: we're going to play Kentucky and in the CBS Classic

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta, we go out to Las Vegas and play

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Speaker 2: at Iowa State, bailing possibly Houston. We play Ole Miss

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Speaker 2: Big East. So it's a it's a tough schedule, but

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Speaker 2: that's a crazy non conference. Yeah, that's good, but we

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Speaker 2: need to sell. You know, for US Madison Square Garden,

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Speaker 2: we have to get twelve thousand fans to break even

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Speaker 2: and after that we make money. So for years, even

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Speaker 2: when you guys were playing, you know, they were drawing

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Speaker 2: six seven, eight thousand people, they were hemorrhaging every they

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Speaker 2: were losing two hundred thousand a game. So now we

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Speaker 2: sold out the last six to seven games and we're

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Speaker 2: finally starting to make some good money.

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Speaker 4: Is that that go straight to an il stuff?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: It goes, it goes to the school, and our nil

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Speaker 2: is a little different.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, when you're recruiting and you're potentially

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Speaker 5: recruiting against guys or against schools with bigger budgets, Like

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Speaker 5: do you feel that on a day to day basis?

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Speaker 5: Like how does that manifest?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not going to have a bigger budget. There's

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Speaker 2: different structure. I yeah, there's nobody. If we want a

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Speaker 2: player will get them. We'll get only maybe Kentucky probably

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Speaker 2: could spend more than anybody in the business. But outside

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Speaker 2: of that, if we really want a player, we'll go

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing you talk about how you're not recruiting

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Speaker 3: like incoming freshmen. I don't know about it all, but

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Speaker 3: you just your it's not your priority, right Can you

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Speaker 3: explain that to us?

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Speaker 2: Well, we take freshmen each year, but I want older players.

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Speaker 2: I want veteran players, no different than the NBA rookies.

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Speaker 2: Unless they're really really special. I'm not going to play

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Speaker 2: players who have been through it. I know how to

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Speaker 2: play the game, no understand to play that type of schedule,

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Speaker 2: and I don't deal financially I'm one of the few

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Speaker 2: coaches that enjoys the players being paid. It hasn't bothered

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Speaker 2: me at all. The transfer portal doesn't bother me because

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Speaker 2: I'm at Saint John's. Saint John's without the NIL would

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Speaker 2: struggle basketball wise because we don't have football, we don't

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Speaker 2: have a campus where a lot of students live. On

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Speaker 2: campus is not an active social life too much. It's

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Speaker 2: about Madison Square Garden, the Big East, and we have

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Speaker 2: our strengths and we have our weaknesses. So the NIL

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Speaker 2: for us in the transfer portal is a great thing.

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Speaker 2: So we have a general manager that goes out there

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Speaker 2: I'll ask him at the end, what are you thinking

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Speaker 1: I'm curious because I you know, you just touched on

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Speaker 1: was your initial thoughts, because you know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Of the year or right before to see Tony.

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Speaker 1: Bennette, Tony Bennett, I'll see coach right is gone or

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Speaker 2: I look at it a little bit differently. You know, I've

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Speaker 2: made a lot of money. I'm a wealthy man today

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Speaker 2: at seventy three because of my players. You know, I

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited that they can get some wealth. And

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Speaker 2: how to do to write things with their wealth. And

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. The more they make, the happier

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Speaker 4: Have you had a player like after the season just

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Speaker 3: I don't know you guys did well and all of

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Speaker 3: being here, whatever, whatever, But I'm going to answer the

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Speaker 3: chance to Portal. Like is it like is it like

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Speaker 3: a great year. We have a chance to just on

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Speaker 2: I haven't had had it happen yet. I'm sure it will.

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Speaker 2: Generally speaking. If if they said to me, I'd like

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Speaker 2: to get a better contract and you'll work, I said,

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Speaker 2: I had a couple of players I told to go

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Speaker 2: One with Brady Dunlap, he wound up going to Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: It was a much better situation for him. He wasn't

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Speaker 3: Hearing like, how upfront you are, I feel like it

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Speaker 3: So I think you should go like, no, there's gonna

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Speaker 2: Like how did you get to that? How'd you be

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's very tough, especially in this day

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Speaker 2: Well, my background is, you know, I was the Nick

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Speaker 2: two years, Celtics for four years, Punett and Nikos in

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Speaker 2: I said, they've only played one game. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 2: The other thing I don't like about it the agents

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Speaker 2: are taking ten and fifteen percent of the player's money.

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Speaker 2: How much ten and fifteen percent of the NIL money.

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Speaker 5: Which for people that don't know, is three to four

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Speaker 4: Be taken in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: They tell you're kind of like a marketing deal. Yes, basically,

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Speaker 1: I think for us, the max the NBA agent can

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you get four percent of like the MBA

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Speaker 1: That's basically what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can negotiate it, but it's I've had

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What I what I tell the kids they asked

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Speaker 2: I tell them that I said, but don't don't give

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Speaker 1: I would say, obviously, No. JB on like how upfront

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Speaker 1: you are. There was the video last year, that one

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Speaker 4: Obviously.

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't play against you, obviously, you know

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Speaker 1: your coaching style hasn't changed. It seems like it's still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're a halftime and you're you're getting on

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't take the open shots because they do have

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Speaker 2: a lot of freedom off. I expect them to play

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Speaker 2: But I can get on my guys hard as a unit.

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Speaker 2: too easily. But collectively, like today, in practice, I'm getting

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Speaker 2: get on somebody individually, I just call them in. We

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