Speaker 1: Probably only fitting that the vote to potentially ban THEUSH
Speaker 1: push has been pushed back to May. No vote taken
Speaker 1: at the NFL annual meeting, but some compelling reasons given
Speaker 1: for why they could consider it again.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones giving reasons you can.
Speaker 1: Debate how compelling for why the Michael Parson's contract is
Speaker 1: not done yet.
Speaker 2: Jerry says he's willing to pay more to get.
Speaker 1: More information, which sounds like Michael Parson's getting more money.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you where things stand.
Speaker 1: We also heard from Steeler's owner Art Rooney today, who
Speaker 1: says he's feeling the positive vibes about Aaron Rodgers becoming
Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh Steeler. No final word though yet, So where
Speaker 1: does it land?
Speaker 2: Aaron? Please give us an answer.
Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Mike Garriflo and Ian
Speaker 1: rappap I am Tom Peliicero. We got a jam packed
Speaker 1: show here in Palm Beach today. We got Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Chicago Bears. He's on
Speaker 1: the show, Dan Quinn, the Commander's head coach on the show.
Speaker 2: Arthur Blank, Jed York. They've got some interesting.
Speaker 1: Quarterback questions for the franchises that they own, well.
Speaker 2: Here for them too.
Speaker 1: But let's start out by getting to some of the
Speaker 1: rules that were and we're not approved. On the final
Speaker 1: day of the NFL Annual Media the Modified Kickoff, the
Speaker 1: latest version of the dynamic kickoff, did pass as expected,
Speaker 1: though not with adjustments to the on side kick. Those
Speaker 1: could be considered later, but the key up shot of
Speaker 1: today's vote the touchbacks now will come out to the
Speaker 1: thirty five instead of the thirty, which people involved believe
Speaker 1: is going to lead to a lot more returns and
Speaker 1: they hope the same low injury rate.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, NFL.
Speaker 1: Also approved a change to the overtime rules, applying the
Speaker 1: playoff overtime rules in which both teams have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to possess the football to the regular season, standardizing that
Speaker 1: across all games.
Speaker 2: However, they also tweaked it.
Speaker 1: It's now a ten minute overtime, not the fifteen minute
Speaker 1: overtime that had been proposed. Could that mean that people
Speaker 1: who run four minute drills e It'll have all.
Speaker 2: The analysis on that Momentarily.
Speaker 1: We also had a bylaw proposal by the Lions that
Speaker 1: got tabled involving the possibility of reseting the playoff field
Speaker 1: if in fact the division winners do not have the
Speaker 1: best records in their conference table. Is fascinating because this
Speaker 1: was a proposal that's come up several times in the past,
Speaker 1: really hasn't had any momentum this time around. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the Competition Committe is going to bring something that
Speaker 1: also could be at a vote in may Or. The
Speaker 1: NFL media that packed the tenth all week here in
Speaker 1: Palm Beach will be packing it in Minneapolis as well,
Speaker 1: because the push push debate is headed for another round.
Speaker 1: Strong opinions voice on both sides by coaches at their
Speaker 1: media availabilities this week on the possibility of banning that play,
Speaker 1: here's what NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell had to say.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think we're not looking at this as
Speaker 3: the context of one team. We're looking at is a
Speaker 3: particular play that may have an increased potential for injuries.
Speaker 3: As I said before, one of the things we're looking
Speaker 3: back is the rule we had prior to two thousand
Speaker 3: and four that didn't allow a lot of that poll
Speaker 3: or push anywhere on the field, and some of those
Speaker 3: hits happen outside of a tush push, and that's one
Speaker 3: of the things we want the committee to go back
Speaker 3: and look at with our health and safety teamort to
Speaker 3: look at those incidents and should our role be broader
Speaker 3: than just a tush push. And that's something they're going
Speaker 3: to bring back to the membership in May.
Speaker 1: So Rich McKay, the Competition Committee chairman, said, or the
Speaker 1: reason they got rid of that no pushing, no pulling
Speaker 1: rule twenty one years ago was it was really hard
Speaker 1: for officials to officiate it when you got down the field. However,
Speaker 1: there appears to be a real appetite ian for something
Speaker 1: to change here and by reinstating that language and will
Speaker 1: all of them say this is not about the touch push, This.
Speaker 2: Is about the broader safety issues.
Speaker 4: Something the Competition Committee and the NFL ownership doesn't want
Speaker 4: to do is take something that one or two teams do,
Speaker 4: change the rule based only on that. Now, it seems
Speaker 4: at its face, if the toushbush has changed, that's what
Speaker 4: it would be. It's the Eagles, it's the Bills, not
Speaker 4: a ton of other teams running, not a ton of
Speaker 4: other teams have success. It would really be those two.
Speaker 4: But as you mentioned, Tim, if they are going to
Speaker 4: go back to the twenty fourteen language. They would basically
Speaker 4: be opening up, broadening the rule and saying no pushing,
Speaker 4: not on the toush push, but at all, no pulling.
Speaker 4: It would basically be going back to what they had before.
Speaker 4: The momentum of this one has been really fascinating. It
Speaker 4: started with the conversation of health and safety. There's not
Speaker 4: enough data. We know that they've discussed that plenty of times,
Speaker 4: but in the event of a catastrophic injury, they don't
Speaker 4: want to be reacted. They want to be proactive. Say
Speaker 4: this is a play that looks dangerous, so therefore potentially
Speaker 4: discuss banning it. And then the conversation kind of changed
Speaker 4: a little bit. Mike say, you know what, maybe this
Speaker 4: doesn't look like a football play. Maybe this looks more
Speaker 4: like a rugby play. We'll pick this back up in May.
Speaker 4: But just reading the tea leaves now, it does appear
Speaker 4: change on some level is coming to the toush push.
Speaker 5: The Eagles would disagree and tell you that there is
Speaker 5: plenty of data because this play has been run for
Speaker 5: four years now.
Speaker 2: The question to thank you right on.
Speaker 5: Time, the can you translated and pushing a toush that's
Speaker 5: very easy.
Speaker 2: That's a timp peach.
Speaker 5: It's a peach, guys, not your first day on social media, right, fair,
Speaker 5: this is fair. We're gonna leave it there, all right.
Speaker 2: So they'll say there's plenty of data. Matter of fact, Jeffrey.
Speaker 5: Lourie said that and said, we have voted in the
Speaker 5: past for rules changes in the name of help and safety.
Speaker 5: They don't feel like this is really the case when
Speaker 5: you say there's not enough data. When will there be
Speaker 5: enough data when there's an injury, Because this is more
Speaker 5: about a proactive health and safety approach. So Jeffrey LORII
Speaker 5: and the Eagles obviously disappointed. Howie Roseman says, we had
Speaker 5: the data set it in the meeting. We have the
Speaker 5: data and it shows that it's not a dangerous play.
Speaker 5: We've run it more than everybody. We've never had an injury.
Speaker 5: Now you've had some of this that jumping over the pile.
Speaker 5: Chris Jones got hurt in the Super Bowl because he
Speaker 5: was trying to defend it by going sideways while everybody
Speaker 5: else was going forward. It's going to be an interesting
Speaker 5: discussion in may. I do think making it all encompassing, though,
Speaker 5: is going to help get a lot more support when
Speaker 5: they rewrite it in that regard and drive.
Speaker 6: Pitch in that way.
Speaker 1: A small sample size here, I think it's what they're
Speaker 1: referring to with the lack of data. In other words, yes,
Speaker 1: we'd run hundreds of times in the past several years,
Speaker 1: but not tens of thousands of times like other plays.
Speaker 7: They generally move.
Speaker 1: In cavelly the key phrase there for Roger Goodell's injury mechanism.
Speaker 1: They're saying that there is the evidence that it could
Speaker 1: become a dangerous play.
Speaker 2: You also, when the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Decide to drop back, the pass can just turn loose
Speaker 1: the pass rush. Let the Cowboys tend to do with
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, who is entering the final year of his
Speaker 1: rookie contract, will make twenty four million dollars in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five if he does not have a new deal
Speaker 1: in place, which remains the case because Jerry Jones, you'll
Speaker 1: be shocked to find out he's wanted to take a time.
Speaker 6: We are there.
Speaker 7: I don't view it as urgent at all.
Speaker 8: And you know, some say, well, using the basis that
Speaker 8: you get something done the cheaper, whether orly you get
Speaker 8: something done, A lot of times, the more mistakes you might,
Speaker 8: and you might want to see a few more cards playing,
Speaker 8: not just with that particular negotiation, but with the whole team.
Speaker 1: Time now for count on it presented by Toro Mike.
Speaker 1: We know we can count on. Jerry Jones wanted all
Speaker 1: those leaves to fall, more dominoes, more information. He is taking,
Speaker 1: as usual, a very deliberate approach two negotiations that also
Speaker 1: includes him talking directly to.
Speaker 5: The player involved, yes, and basically stating that he and
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons had an agreement on some of the overarching
Speaker 5: pieces of the deal and saying I don't even know
Speaker 5: his agent's name, basically suggesting he hasn't had negotiations with him. Well,
Speaker 5: it's two agents, David Mulligeta and Andre otom You've heard
Speaker 5: the name Mulligeda before. He represents a number of high
Speaker 5: profile clients. Deshaun Watson is one of them. I mentioned
Speaker 5: him because that's one of the great contracts from a
Speaker 5: player and an agent standpoint in recent memory. The fact
Speaker 5: that he got that fully guaranteed. And I know a
Speaker 5: lot of folks say, well, that's the wrong guy to
Speaker 5: really say that about, because David's a prideful guy in
Speaker 5: this case, and he's going to want to get the
Speaker 5: best deal possible.
Speaker 2: Well, now you added a little bit of fuel to
Speaker 2: that fire.
Speaker 5: I just know that Jerry Jones talking directly to clients
Speaker 5: is something that agents in the past have tried to
Speaker 5: stop from happening. Dak Prescott did it, but Deak Prescott's
Speaker 5: agents had faith that everything was going to be fine
Speaker 5: and they would still be allowed to do their job.
Speaker 5: But Jerry has done this in the past before, So
Speaker 5: this is add a little bit of drama. Michah Parsons
Speaker 5: tweeting that no, I trust David Willagetta to do the
Speaker 5: negotiation and he's gonna get me the best possible deal.
Speaker 2: It's never quiet down there. This is this is fun.
Speaker 4: It's never quiet. It's plenty of noise. Now, I don't
Speaker 4: know that this will actually affect negotiations. David will get
Speaker 4: is going to try to get the most money, the
Speaker 4: best deal for his client, no matter what, no doubt
Speaker 4: Michael Parson is going to be the highest paid non
Speaker 4: quarterback when he has done. But you know the fact
Speaker 4: that Jerry Jones said, I don't even know who his
Speaker 4: agent is. I don't even know the name. It's one
Speaker 4: of the most well known agents in the NFL. It
Speaker 4: was just an interesting tactic early on, especially since they
Speaker 4: haven't really dug in. What's fascinating to me is that
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones says he wants more information. Well, Michaeh. Parsons
Speaker 4: does too. Micah Parsons, to my understanding, would like to
Speaker 4: see some of the other edge rushers. Top edge rushers
Speaker 4: get paid. TJ. Watt, Aiden Hutchinson, Micah Parsons likely to
Speaker 4: come in last. Well, if Jerry Jones wants to wait
Speaker 4: and get more info, and if Micah Parsons wants to
Speaker 4: wait and get more info, then we're all going to
Speaker 4: wait and get more info until there's no more info
Speaker 4: to get right up against the start of the season,
Speaker 4: which Tom, this might seem familiar to you because the
Speaker 4: last two massive deals the Cowboys did were right up
Speaker 4: against it, including Dak Prescott Steel right before kickoff. I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's going to be that dramatic for
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons, but we are a ways away for this guy.
Speaker 1: Stee Lamb was a long holdout last year, Zach Martin
Speaker 1: was a long holdout the year before, and Jerry said.
Speaker 2: While he's confident in this deal, he also said.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that it's gonna be done before
Speaker 1: the started training camp, So tune in Knox Snart perhaps
Speaker 1: in late July. Also waiting for more information the Steelers
Speaker 1: because Aaron Rodgers on April first is still not made
Speaker 1: a firm and final decision or is not communicated at
Speaker 1: least to these Steelers about whether or not he's going
Speaker 1: to play in Pittsburgh. You see him throwing earlier this week.
Speaker 1: According to the fantastic photo stylings of Alex Amen right here,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much came that calf one.
Speaker 2: Of his potential. Didn't they lease this off of his
Speaker 2: it's back now, it's.
Speaker 1: But first before that, Art Rooney saw it apparently and said,
Speaker 1: it seems like everything is headed in a right directtion.
Speaker 1: He's pretty confident here, feels positive about the way things
Speaker 1: are going here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for our ruining to say what we have
Speaker 4: been talking about and thinking it was, there was a
Speaker 4: lot of positivity and optimism in the air. Yes, it
Speaker 4: does seem seem like Aaron Rodgers will eventually land with
Speaker 4: the Steelers. That seems like the direction that's going. The
Speaker 4: fact that he had a really positive throwing session with
Speaker 4: DK metcalf is good. The fact that we were able
Speaker 4: to see the video to see for ourselves is also good.
Speaker 4: This all seems like it is headed toward Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: being the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers eventually.
Speaker 2: However, Mike, we do not know what.
Speaker 4: Is in Aaron rodgers head until he comes out and
Speaker 4: says it in whatever form he says it, till he
Speaker 4: lets the Steelers know yes, I am coming, Yes, I
Speaker 4: will accept your offer. That sounds to me it's basically
Speaker 4: worked out. We will be in this sort of limbo.
Speaker 4: But this is as positive a sign as we have
Speaker 4: seen that this will all happen.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: The Steelers are doing what few teams did and few
Speaker 5: teams have done really in the recent years.
Speaker 2: Which is put pressure. It's a little bit of pressure.
Speaker 2: You think it's pressure, I think it is. I think
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 5: Art Rudy today saying this has taken longer than he expected,
Speaker 5: willing to wait, but not much longer. Right, Usually with
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, like nobody wants to spoo him, nobody wants
Speaker 5: to scare him.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a walk on eggshell.
Speaker 5: So the Steelers today, I think we're sending a message
Speaker 5: as suddenly as they could, saying like, let's go man,
Speaker 5: we're getting close to the draft here.
Speaker 2: We got to know what's going on here.
Speaker 5: We're getting close offseason workouts as well.
Speaker 2: So Rogers has gone through the process, visiting the team,
Speaker 2: working with DK Metcalf. I don't know what more could
Speaker 2: be left for him to explore.
Speaker 5: We talked about the financials, Tom you did saying that
Speaker 5: that was pretty much set and stone.
Speaker 2: There's really nothing left. His agent was here.
Speaker 4: We ran into him last night at the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Restaurant huh bar, but you know that has a we're different.
Speaker 2: We ran into but the bar. We don track. Parameters
Speaker 2: have been discussed. It's been that was settled a month ago.
Speaker 1: It'll be a one year contract whenever it gets done,
Speaker 1: following Aaron Rodgers to have.
Speaker 2: Control over his future.
Speaker 1: The one thing that remains here is Aaron Rodgers telling
Speaker 1: the Steelers I'm really comming and I'm really doing it.
Speaker 1: And until that happens, we continue to talk about it
Speaker 1: every night right here, bring on this very show. We
Speaker 1: did have a deal get done earlier on today with
Speaker 1: another high profile player who's been around for a very,
Speaker 1: very long time. As Ian reported, Kaleis Campbell, thirty eight
Speaker 1: years old, is headed back to the Cardinals. One year,
Speaker 1: five point five million dollar deal can earn up to
Speaker 1: seven point five million dollars with the incentives. So, Kalais
Speaker 1: Campbell name all those former teams Ian.
Speaker 4: Cardinals, Jaguars, Ravens, Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Is that it? Noo? Keep going? Is that it?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I think that's what goes bron No. No, you almost
Speaker 2: signed with the broadcos Pree.
Speaker 4: Agency when he was going from Arizona to the Jaguar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins would have liked to know some of those
Speaker 1: terms and conditions on the contract, including drafting.
Speaker 2: His replacement, like six weeks after he signed it.
Speaker 1: He got bench last season in favor of rookie Michael Pennix,
Speaker 1: who now heads into.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five as the starter.
Speaker 1: The Falcons at this point, though, have not moved on
Speaker 1: from Cousins, but could they do that sometime in the
Speaker 1: coming weeks.
Speaker 2: Are Steve Woitz caught up with their owner Arthur Blank.
Speaker 6: All right, mister Blank.
Speaker 9: Of course when it comes to your team, the topic
Speaker 9: is your backup quarterback. Kirk Cousins and I know you
Speaker 9: and he spoke about that conversation. What was conveyed in
Speaker 9: that conversation that relates to his future with the Falcons.
Speaker 10: Well, we spoke for about an hour. He asked to
Speaker 10: chat with man. I said, of course, and I told
Speaker 10: Kirk started the conversation. I said, look, I'm here to
Speaker 10: really listen. I took five pages of notes, literally five
Speaker 10: pages of notes. I think, you know, made some comments
Speaker 10: back to them, shared some thoughts that I had from
Speaker 10: a franchise standpoint. It It could not have been a
Speaker 10: more cordial and more respectful conversation. And I heard everything
Speaker 10: he said. I understand everything he said, and he also
Speaker 10: understood where we.
Speaker 6: Were as a team and as a franchise.
Speaker 10: So but I think it created, you know, clarity about
Speaker 10: what he hoped for and what his view of his
Speaker 10: views were and what happened and why it happened, et cetera.
Speaker 10: And uh so I think we're you know, I mean,
Speaker 10: we're in a good, good place and and uh we
Speaker 10: he ends up being up back of the quarterback. We
Speaker 10: are the best in the National Football League, which is
Speaker 10: always a good thing.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 10: If we end up making a different decision, uh, we'll
Speaker 10: move on. Uh, but you know we're I mean, he's
Speaker 10: I just wanna reinforce this.
Speaker 6: He's been. He's been.
Speaker 10: You know, he could not be more of a gentleman.
Speaker 10: I mean, sh thirteenth, fourteenth year going into the n
Speaker 10: NFL was coming year six and six with uh, you know,
Speaker 10: with the Commanders, and then with uh with Vikings and
Speaker 10: one year with us. But I mean he's got, you know,
Speaker 10: a great heart, a great spirit, he bleeds the NFL.
Speaker 10: He's great with teammates, great with fans, very spiritual guy,
Speaker 10: a great family guy. And so I mean, I mean
Speaker 10: we'll both end up doing the right things for the
Speaker 10: right reasons.
Speaker 6: It will be fine.
Speaker 9: Any point in that conversation did he express that he
Speaker 9: did not want to be with the Falcons.
Speaker 10: Well, I think he made it clear that, you know,
Speaker 10: in his best interests would be to have an opportunity
Speaker 10: to you know, test free agency.
Speaker 6: And I understood why.
Speaker 10: He also understands that we've we have a contract and
Speaker 10: we've paid him a great deal of money. He understands
Speaker 10: that because he's really smart and economically in football. Why certainly,
Speaker 10: so we understood our you know, our position as well.
Speaker 10: So it was I mean it was a very very cordial,
Speaker 10: good listening conversation. I did most of the listening, uh,
Speaker 10: he did some. Uh, and we ended up you know,
Speaker 10: being in a good place, I think, and we'll see great.
Speaker 9: So let's get to your young quarterback, Michael Pennix. You know,
Speaker 9: not too far from this time ago last year when
Speaker 9: you guys drafted and people like what are the Falcons do?
Speaker 9: And they designed Kirk Cousins. But now just you know,
Speaker 9: in hindsight kind of just how good of a decision
Speaker 9: that turned out being what about now him going into
Speaker 9: the season as your starter and your expectations of him.
Speaker 10: Well, we were, you know, we were in a situation
Speaker 10: last year and we had, you know, being really clear
Speaker 10: amongst the football folks and myself that we definitely didn't
Speaker 10: want to go into another ABYSS without franchise quarterback. We
Speaker 10: definitely felt Kirk could play for at least two years,
Speaker 10: maybe longer at a very high level, and no reason
Speaker 10: to think that would not be the case, That every
Speaker 10: reason to think that would be the case. But you know,
Speaker 10: we said, sometime in the next couple of years, this year,
Speaker 10: next year, this is last year, we need to draft
Speaker 10: the quarterback who we know we can transition to. And
Speaker 10: other teams have done asfully in the NFL, like the
Speaker 10: Packers is a good example, and we want to make
Speaker 10: sure we did. I'm a big believer in succession planning,
Speaker 10: both in business and in terms of football football football business.
Speaker 10: So I think our operations folks are personnel folks. Our
Speaker 10: coaching staff when they you know, went to old quarterbacks
Speaker 10: last year, they picked this guy out as having an
Speaker 10: incredible talent. I mean they loved the first two guys
Speaker 10: that would pick last year. We loved them too, Williams
Speaker 10: and Daniels, both extraordinarily talented players.
Speaker 6: But we had Pinics.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 10: It's not that we didn't have Drake May up there too,
Speaker 10: but we had Pinics, you know, as a armed talent,
Speaker 10: somebody very very high. And I think when he became,
Speaker 10: you know, became available, we didn't think he was gonna
Speaker 10: be available at eight. I think the franchise made a decision,
Speaker 10: let's let's you know, draft that.
Speaker 6: Quarterback and you know, and have him in the room.
Speaker 6: We'll learn from a.
Speaker 10: Great veteran over the next couple of years, and we'll
Speaker 10: transition to him that the you know, at the right time.
Speaker 6: Whatever that might be.
Speaker 10: Turned out to be much quicker than you know, any
Speaker 10: of us anticipated. But during the three game stretch, Michael
Speaker 10: performed well and so we have high helps for him.
Speaker 2: Right now, let's change gears a little bit.
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Speaker 9: huge passion of yours. What about though, being a top
Speaker 9: of the league to start this thing off.
Speaker 10: Well, just to clarify, I'm not the part owner.
Speaker 6: I am the owner.
Speaker 10: So yeah, you have information so that we have a
Speaker 10: few of the you know, limited partners, which are great
Speaker 10: and their involvement is really appreciated.
Speaker 6: I'm a huge.
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Speaker 6: Channel and NBC ET cetera.
Speaker 10: And because I think it brings a wider diversity, younger,
Speaker 10: younger audience into the game of golf sooner and attracts
Speaker 10: a different demographic than we currently have that'll be watching
Speaker 10: the Villero Open this week and then the Masters next week,
Speaker 10: et cetera. And it's done in a way and a
Speaker 10: simulated golf format inside of a building as about as
Speaker 10: big as a football field, with getting to know the
Speaker 10: players better. They're all miked up, so you hear the
Speaker 10: interaction between the teams and then between teams to teams
Speaker 10: you hear those interactions as well. I think it gives
Speaker 10: the players a chance to express themselves their personality much
Speaker 10: more fully. Resow a lot of that with rtgl landa
Speaker 10: Drive players this year, Build a Horselow.
Speaker 6: Patrick can't Ley, Justin Thomas.
Speaker 10: Lucas glover All did a fabulous job playing, but also
Speaker 10: did a defabulous job relating to the crowd that was
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Speaker 1: Some big changes at the NFL Annual Media, including another
Speaker 1: the dynamic kickoff, got any complaints about it, don't lodge
Speaker 1: with Mike. He can't fix it. We'll talk about some
Speaker 1: of these rule changes next on the Insiders.
Speaker 11: Out thinking about.
Speaker 1: A lot of discussion, but no vote on the banning
Speaker 1: of the tush push, which now a debate that's been
Speaker 1: push back to the next league meeting, which is in
Speaker 1: mid May in Minneapolis. Coaches a voice strong opinions on
Speaker 1: both sides of the debate. Roder Goodell referred in part
Speaker 1: to injury risk, specifically injury mechanisms that exists, even though
Speaker 1: there's no data the show injuries are occurring on the play.
Speaker 1: More discussion to come ahead. The NFL owners did vote
Speaker 1: in favor of another modification to the dynamic kickoff rule.
Speaker 1: The touchbacks now will come out to the thirty five
Speaker 1: instead of the thirty yard line, disincentivizing teams from kicking
Speaker 1: the ball through the zone. The optimism is that that
Speaker 1: will lead to more returns while continuing to keep the
Speaker 1: injury low thanks to the reduced space and speed on
Speaker 1: that play. NFL owners also voted to approve a playoff
Speaker 1: overtime then now will also apply to regular season overtime.
Speaker 1: Both teams having the opportunity to possess the ball. However,
Speaker 1: there's also a modification. Instead of a fifteen minute overtime,
Speaker 1: it will be a ten minute overtime, which does raise
Speaker 1: the specter of somebody just trying to eat the entire
Speaker 1: ten minute clock. Rich Packay was asked specifically about that
Speaker 1: scenario and said, if one team holds the ball all
Speaker 1: ten minutes, sorry that opportunity to possess it involved you
Speaker 1: playing a little bit of defense. Another proposal that was
Speaker 1: push involving the reseting of the playoff teams. This one
Speaker 1: proposed by the Lions solely by record and not giving
Speaker 1: the division winners all a home game was interesting. This
Speaker 1: was tabled not rejected, because it's come up many times
Speaker 1: in the past, and according to Roger Goodell, there was
Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation.
Speaker 3: There was some great data to show that we should
Speaker 3: really look at some form of this or some version
Speaker 3: of this, But there was also a really strong point
Speaker 3: of view that winning the division was the number one thing,
Speaker 3: that when you come into training camp, that's the goal.
Speaker 3: Win that division first, and should the reward for winning
Speaker 3: that division be you're in the playoffs and a home game.
Speaker 3: There was some discussion potentially about you know, if you
Speaker 3: were five hundred or less and you won that division,
Speaker 3: should you also get the home game. I think there
Speaker 3: was some interest in that also, but I think the
Speaker 3: reality is it was very healthy. I think there'll be
Speaker 3: more discussion of it as we look at our season structure.
Speaker 3: There will probably be a lot of discussion in that
Speaker 3: context also as we do that. But I do think,
Speaker 3: you know, it's that constant work to be more competitive
Speaker 3: and to find new ways to create interest in the game.
Speaker 3: So I was really pleased with the discussion this morning.
Speaker 1: There are some division purists, as Mike Tomlin described himself yesterday,
Speaker 1: and who think based upon especially all the schedule is
Speaker 1: set up now, which is heavily weighted toward not just
Speaker 1: division games, but teams within a division all playing the
Speaker 1: same teams throughout the course of the season. Here tre
Speaker 1: Rodrignello proposed some potential alternatives to that, including the teams
Speaker 1: below five hundred. It's obviously they're at least thinking through
Speaker 1: this debate that could now go to a vote in May.
Speaker 4: I would say, of all the developments, say, this is
Speaker 4: probably the most surprising saw this on the docket.
Speaker 2: I know we've discussed this.
Speaker 4: I know NFL owners have discussed it a couple of
Speaker 4: different times. It has never advanced to the point of, well,
Speaker 4: actually maybe it might pass. That's kind of where we are.
Speaker 4: They're going to table it, They're going to go over
Speaker 4: everything and rediscuss it. In May, when you're hosting a
Speaker 4: big party before the league meetings in Minneapolis, and the
Speaker 4: fact that you are in exists, you are, and the
Speaker 4: fact that the NFL owners are now considering this, to
Speaker 4: me is noworthy Mike, and you try to read the
Speaker 4: tea leaves on these things. You try to figure out
Speaker 4: where it's headed. Raise the possibility that maybe a division
Speaker 4: win under five hundred somehow doesn't get to host and
Speaker 4: if there's any justification to basically changing the seat, and
Speaker 4: that would be it as a team essentially won the
Speaker 4: division but doesn't earn it. But it really opens the
Speaker 4: door to the kind of seating or reseeding, or maybe
Speaker 4: you get through the wild card round and then you
Speaker 4: reseed after the kind of things that the NFL has
Speaker 4: never had and never embraced. But you know, if there
Speaker 4: is an eighteen game season, this is all going to
Speaker 4: be a topic for discussion.
Speaker 5: Again, Well, some five hundred teams that have hosted games
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. It could come up with a couple
Speaker 5: of the Seahawks. The Beast Quake game was against an
Speaker 5: eleven win Saints team. They wound up winning that in
Speaker 5: large part because of the home field advantage. The Panthers
Speaker 5: were seven eight one year they beat the Cardinals at
Speaker 5: home in the playoffs, and it's like, does that valid
Speaker 5: date that they should have had the home game or
Speaker 5: does that say, oh, well, they didn't really deserve it.
Speaker 2: And they got that advantage so that helped them win.
Speaker 2: They it must be with Roger Goodell means.
Speaker 5: This is the kind of stuff that they were talking about,
Speaker 5: and it might be weird that a nine to eight
Speaker 5: team would host, but yet an eight to nine team wouldn't.
Speaker 5: But the fact that this is still, as Tom mentioned,
Speaker 5: tabled and not rejected means that there's more support maybe
Speaker 5: than we've had in the past for this one. So
Speaker 5: it's going to be an interesting discussion come May, and
Speaker 5: it may not be for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 5: It may not be voted on, It may it may
Speaker 5: be just something that it just continues to be pushed
Speaker 5: forward and talked about and further honed, so they get
Speaker 5: to the point where everybody's comfortable.
Speaker 1: Whatever enough getting to an eighteen game schedule. Two, is
Speaker 1: that dog keeps parking over there? Don't we love an underdog?
Speaker 1: That's why they can get to those teams that's a
Speaker 1: regular dog. But yes, you're also talking about potentially needing
Speaker 1: to rethink the entire scheduling process here in terms of
Speaker 1: if you're going to go to a divisionless seeding format,
Speaker 1: do you also then strip out some of the way
Speaker 1: to division stuff, because right now almost all your games
Speaker 1: are based on it's the same teams that you play
Speaker 1: that the rest of your division plays, orts games within
Speaker 1: your division. There's a lot of different tentacles to this,
Speaker 1: but again, the fact that it's still alive suggests that
Speaker 1: maybe there are some people here who are in favor
Speaker 1: of thinking of something that doesn't have a fourteen win
Speaker 1: team going on the road for a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Like last year.
Speaker 1: There are also some interesting developments too from Roger Gell
Speaker 1: today involving some thoughts on flag football.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard directly from a lot of players who
Speaker 3: want to participate and represent their country, whether it's the
Speaker 3: United States or a country that they came from to
Speaker 3: have them participate in that, and I think that's something
Speaker 3: that we'll continue the discussions with, not just the union
Speaker 3: but also the clubs. I think both of those are
Speaker 3: things that will probably resolve sometime in the next sixty days.
Speaker 3: But I do think the Olympics is a critical moment
Speaker 3: for us in the flag development on a global basis. Listen,
Speaker 3: the Olympics are the pinnacle of international sport, and for
Speaker 3: us to be able to participate in that, to have
Speaker 3: both men and women's flag teams participating from around the
Speaker 3: world is a significant moment for us. So there is
Speaker 3: a lot of lead up to that in the qualifications
Speaker 3: and how that happens. So that is clearly inspiring some
Speaker 3: of the work, but I think what you're seeing on
Speaker 3: the state level is really unrelated to that. It's just
Speaker 3: a demand.
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Speaker 1: is just twenty three days away. All kicks off Thursday,
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Speaker 1: the Bears, who already had a pretty big off season
Speaker 1: in the works, first the hiring the Ben Johnson, then
Speaker 1: signing three fifths of a starting offensive line, adding a
Speaker 1: couple of big guys up front as well. Big piece
Speaker 1: of this, though, is going to be their new head
Speaker 1: coach who joined me earlier today, Ben, the first time
Speaker 1: as a head coach down here at the NFL Annual Meeting.
Speaker 7: What do you think of all this, man, I tell
Speaker 7: you what I think. It was the first day.
Speaker 11: That I was sitting in in one of those meetings,
Speaker 11: and it was a little bit surreal just seeing all
Speaker 11: the head coaches and the gms all in the same room.
Speaker 11: Very grateful for it, Grateful for the McCaskey family providing
Speaker 11: the resources for us to come down. And it's been
Speaker 11: a great week so far since.
Speaker 2: We talked at the combine.
Speaker 1: You added a whole lot of beef to your offensive line,
Speaker 1: two trades, a big free agency and just tell me
Speaker 1: about the philosophy of why you attacked the interior.
Speaker 2: The way you did well.
Speaker 11: The game's still won in the trench, as simple as that,
Speaker 11: and so we feel really good about the guys that
Speaker 11: we brought in. Gives us the flexibility to run the ball,
Speaker 11: pass protection needed to get a little bit better than
Speaker 11: what it was last year in Chicago, and so I
Speaker 11: feel strongly that we were able to augment that part
Speaker 11: of the game for us, and I think we'll see
Speaker 11: a better version of Caleb this year because of that.
Speaker 1: When you have perhaps hopefully less inside pressure. How much
Speaker 1: does that impact the way that Caleb is able to
Speaker 1: play in the park.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, certainly this day and age, you almost
Speaker 11: feel like those three techniques, the interior rush can have
Speaker 11: as much, if not more impact on a quarterback, particularly
Speaker 11: a young quarterback who's trying to see down the field
Speaker 11: then the edge guys, and so what we're trying to
Speaker 11: do is we're trying to keep that depth of the
Speaker 11: pocket sound for him so that he's able to get
Speaker 11: through his progression and extend the play if needed.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of analytics people who
Speaker 1: are excited to hear you talking about expected points added
Speaker 1: per play in there. How do you look at that
Speaker 1: and how does it apply to the way that you
Speaker 1: scheme on a week to week basis.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So I first got into that last year and
Speaker 11: we were just looking for ways to simply raise that
Speaker 11: number for us, and so it was how do we
Speaker 11: how do we get a higher completion percentage. I think
Speaker 11: he saw with Jared he had probably a career high
Speaker 11: in terms of completion percentage and also augmenting the run
Speaker 11: after catch with our pass catchers as well. So it's
Speaker 11: something we talked about as something we drilled, and I
Speaker 11: want to say that we were pretty good a year
Speaker 11: ago in that department in Detroit, and so something i'd
Speaker 11: love to carry over here to Chicago.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen that social media meme
Speaker 1: of you your introductory press conversations, like a month later,
Speaker 1: it's like bad lighting. Oh man, Ben, It's like this
Speaker 1: job is really taking a toll lot him already. You
Speaker 1: seem energetic. How are you feeling right now?
Speaker 7: I feel great.
Speaker 2: I feel great.
Speaker 7: It's just I don't sleep very much, but so goes life.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get the guys in the building for
Speaker 1: the first time in about a week here. What's going
Speaker 1: to be your message to them day one about what
Speaker 1: this version of the Bears is all about?
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, it's a completely different year.
Speaker 11: So I know last year didn't go the way that
Speaker 11: a lot of them wanted it to go. But we're
Speaker 11: going to start fresh. We're going to keep the standard
Speaker 11: very high for him. We're going to set that bar high.
Speaker 11: We're we're gonna push toward it each and every day.
Speaker 11: Have fun, Ben, Thanks, thank you Here.
Speaker 5: With Niner's owner Jed York.
Speaker 2: Happy April Fol's Day.
Speaker 12: But thanks man, you're looking really handsome today.
Speaker 5: Okay, I got Yeah, see I got the joke right there.
Speaker 5: Your off season, you've had to make some tough decisions
Speaker 5: because you're at the point now where you know that
Speaker 5: there's a quarterback extension.
Speaker 2: Coming for Brock Party. How did you approach this offseason?
Speaker 5: Did you kind of expect that it would kind of go
Speaker 5: the way that.
Speaker 2: It has so far?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we knew that we had to make
Speaker 12: sacrifices around the roster to make sure that you can
Speaker 12: pay quarterback.
Speaker 7: Right Like, it's just math.
Speaker 12: And I've been in situations where you have great roster
Speaker 12: and the quarterback isn't set and it's hard to have
Speaker 12: sustained success. We want to make sure that Brock is
Speaker 12: a long term partner. We want to make sure that
Speaker 12: he's a part of our team for a long time.
Speaker 12: And it's a decision. I don't know exactly when we
Speaker 12: made it. But it was somewhere in the middle of
Speaker 12: the season, knowing that you can start negotiating at the
Speaker 12: end of the third year and it's like, all right,
Speaker 12: he's our guy, and if he's our guy, you have
Speaker 12: to know that and make those decisions. And that's where
Speaker 12: we are right now.
Speaker 5: So it was in the middle of last season where
Speaker 5: you guys as a front office and an organization said,
Speaker 5: this is our guy, We're committing to him.
Speaker 7: What did you see at that point that led.
Speaker 6: You to have that conversation.
Speaker 12: I mean everything that he's done so far, right, Like,
Speaker 12: he's been great on the field, he's been great off
Speaker 12: the field. And it wasn't like just sit down in
Speaker 12: whatever it was November or I can't remember when our
Speaker 12: buy was. But that's genuinely when you we'll have those
Speaker 12: types of conversations but you're not getting deep into free agency.
Speaker 12: But it's like, look, is anybody opposed to doing Brock
Speaker 12: And it's like, no, like you have to. I mean
Speaker 12: last year, I think he was like the thirtieth highest
Speaker 12: paid college quarterback, right, So when guys with nil are
Speaker 12: making more than a third year NFL pro, like, there's
Speaker 12: something wrong with the system with not being able to
Speaker 12: extend guys earlier in the NFL, right, we change that
Speaker 12: in the CBA. I think it was a twenty eleven CBA,
Speaker 12: and we were a team that did it with Frank
Speaker 12: or Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, several others in a generation
Speaker 12: past forty nine ers, And we always want to extend
Speaker 12: our guys early that you know are going to be
Speaker 12: a part of it. I wish we could have done
Speaker 12: something earlier with Brock. That's just not how the rules work.
Speaker 5: I know you guys don't want to negotiate through the media,
Speaker 5: but you've made it clear that you expect something to
Speaker 5: get done. How productive have the conversations been to this.
Speaker 7: Point, And I think they've been good.
Speaker 12: Like it's not conversations that I'm having right, Like I've
Speaker 12: seen Brock a few times at the facility, like everything
Speaker 12: is great, everything is cordial, and again like he's got
Speaker 12: to make a decision of what he wants to do. Like, well,
Speaker 12: I don't think we're that far apart. I think we
Speaker 12: can sit down and get something done. But whenever he's ready,
Speaker 12: we're ready.
Speaker 5: And if it's something that we last through the off season,
Speaker 5: because sometimes these things drag out a little bit. You're
Speaker 5: confident that he'll be able to do what he needs
Speaker 5: to do this offseason without the D.
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't think anything is going to face
Speaker 12: Brock and that's what you love about him. And when
Speaker 12: he's ready to do something, when he's ready to be
Speaker 12: a long term partner with the Niners, then we're ready
Speaker 12: to have him.
Speaker 5: Last one for you, Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. You've
Speaker 5: professed your confidence in both of them as head coach
Speaker 5: and general manager.
Speaker 2: How do you assess.
Speaker 5: Where they are right now and what they're able to
Speaker 5: do with this roster to get you back to being
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 12: Okay, I mean there's no one I would rather work
Speaker 12: with the Kyle and John. They're the best in the
Speaker 12: league of what they do. I love working with him.
Speaker 12: I love going to work with them. And when you
Speaker 12: have challenging circumstances like we have this offseason or anything else,
Speaker 12: there's no one that you won the trenches with you
Speaker 12: more than those two guys.
Speaker 7: Appreciate Jed, Thanks man.
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Speaker 9: What are your thoughts on kind of where this should go?
Speaker 13: Yeah, My thoughts are like, I have to spend time
Speaker 13: how do we stop this? And it's as a coach,
Speaker 13: it's good because it pushes you into new spots and
Speaker 13: how do you look at things differently? And so whether
Speaker 13: that was our time in Dallas, you know, kind of
Speaker 13: when we're competing against Philadelphia now here. As a commander,
Speaker 13: so I spend way more time thinking about how to
Speaker 13: stop it, what unique things can you do?
Speaker 7: And so that's where you know, I land on that.
Speaker 9: Well, we did see the Frankie Louvu, the Louvu leap,
Speaker 9: we'll call.
Speaker 6: That right there.
Speaker 9: I mean, was that him being instinctive or was that
Speaker 9: something you guys kind of strategically planned.
Speaker 13: We plan that, okay, And Frankie's got unique skill set too,
Speaker 13: and so it takes timing to go over the top.
Speaker 13: And we knew at that part of the field it's
Speaker 13: worth you know, a penalty that may move you know
Speaker 13: less than yes, and so you go take your shot
Speaker 13: to take your timing. It wasn't something you know that
Speaker 13: we would have done, you know, backed up where you
Speaker 13: would concede a first down, but in that space like
Speaker 13: you want to go for it and scratch and fight
Speaker 13: and claw for like any moment to go make your stops.
Speaker 13: And it's also what Frankie's about, and so he's the
Speaker 13: ideal person you know, to implement into that technique.
Speaker 2: Let's let's kind of move forward a little bit.
Speaker 9: You guys make the trade for Laramie Tunsel to get
Speaker 9: him at left tackle when that presented itself, Yeah, how
Speaker 9: did you all factor how he would help your offense
Speaker 9: and how he would figure in it what Cliff likes
Speaker 9: to do.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was it was such an easy uh yes
Speaker 13: when Adam you know, approached me on it. Competing against
Speaker 13: Laramie for years, he's been one of the most difficult
Speaker 13: guys to rush against. He's got such patience and length
Speaker 13: that he's hard to you know, to work and get
Speaker 13: an edge on So to add that type of person
Speaker 13: at a cornerstone position, that's a really big deal for us.
Speaker 9: Think about that type of person, Deebo Samuel Right, we
Speaker 9: know how much of a.
Speaker 2: Threat he is.
Speaker 9: When you add a chess piece like him to this offense,
Speaker 9: how much do you think that alleviates some of the
Speaker 9: stuff on Jaden and puts pressure on opposing defenses?
Speaker 13: Say, as much as anything. I absolutely love that we're
Speaker 13: adding a dog ass competitor to our group, competing against him,
Speaker 13: tackling plans, alignments, you know, screen game, downfield shots.
Speaker 7: This is a real competitor.
Speaker 13: And so to be able to ligne him into different
Speaker 13: locations and feature him into that way with the crew
Speaker 13: that we already have, it's a big deal.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 9: Now, let's get to Jaden right year one, right, came in,
Speaker 9: did his thing.
Speaker 2: Year two.
Speaker 9: Everyone's just like, hey, there's film on him, there's this
Speaker 9: and that. We talk about two pieces you added to
Speaker 9: help him. But what have you seen maybe in his
Speaker 9: notorious grind as he prepares for the second season.
Speaker 13: I think that's the thing that people don't see, the
Speaker 13: unseen work. When I say that he puts it in
Speaker 13: like he really is committed to being excellent, and that's
Speaker 13: in every phase and all that he does. I've said
Speaker 13: before he had the right blend of confidence and humility.
Speaker 13: I think it's also those same two traits that allow
Speaker 13: him to continue to find the next spot and the
Speaker 13: next thing that he wants to get better at, and
Speaker 13: I have no doubt that.
Speaker 6: He will great appreciate it. You que Thanks guys.
Speaker 1: Have I mentioned the discussion about banning the tush push
Speaker 1: has been brotherly shoved back to the next league meeting.
Speaker 1: I'm wanna milk that one more time. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: these rule changes and have some fun with spelling. Stick
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Speaker 2: That's next. We're down here at the NFL annual meeting,
Speaker 2: where there was a.
Speaker 1: Lot of discussion but no vote on banning the tush push.
Speaker 1: That proposal by the packers has been tabled until May.
Speaker 1: Interesting comments both by coaches as well as Commissioner Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell about different variations, including perhaps reinstituting the language that
Speaker 1: was removed a couple decades ago.
Speaker 2: About any pushing or pulling. We'll pick that up in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: In mid May, owners did approve further changes to the
Speaker 1: dynamic kickoff rule, the most notable of which we'll have
Speaker 1: touchbacks coming out to the thirty five yard line instead
Speaker 1: of the thirty, a change that everyone involved anticipates is
Speaker 1: going to lead to a lot more returns, they hope,
Speaker 1: with the same reduced injury rate. Also approved was a
Speaker 1: proposal to apply the playoff overtime rules to the regular season,
Speaker 1: in which both teams would be guaranteed a chance to
Speaker 1: possess the football, unless, of course, since.
Speaker 2: It was modified from fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: To ten minutes, one team holds it for the entirety
Speaker 1: that ten minutes and scores, in which case you lose.
Speaker 2: Two bad day, sir, Welcome back to the insiders. Tom Pilla,
Speaker 2: Sero and Rappaport. Mike Garao.
Speaker 1: It's been a long day, and apparently in tonight that's
Speaker 1: said really uh down quickly here.
Speaker 2: It's almost like it was an hour in Palm Beach.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: We covered a lot of ground, obviously, rules changes, availabilities,
Speaker 1: talking to all the coaches throughout the course of the day,
Speaker 1: but really our day began with a little slice of
Speaker 1: humble pie.
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Speaker 7: but also in hellasero p e l.
Speaker 2: I s A r o.
Speaker 7: It's completely run.
Speaker 1: I and I did not get an answer when after
Speaker 1: we watched that entire thing live and I said to you,
Speaker 1: spell iSER Rochelle.
Speaker 2: He didn't attend to there you want right now. Here's
Speaker 2: what I don't understand. You had like ten hours I
Speaker 2: google it.
Speaker 1: He's all over TikTok here Isaac.
Speaker 4: Rochell Here's what I don't understand. My name is not
Speaker 4: very complicated, okay. And people say, oh, I know how
Speaker 4: to spell it. There's two p's and there are two p's,
Speaker 4: but what they mean is three piece.
Speaker 2: The wrong way that Jamie spelled it.
Speaker 4: They think it's r A P p A that's wrong.
Speaker 4: And for Jamie to know me for a long time,
Speaker 4: I see me on twin and many other places.
Speaker 2: He did not even know how to spell. My name
Speaker 2: is ridiculous? Is it not ridiculous? E r d a
Speaker 2: h L b r A.
Speaker 5: N d T s c h r O window Oh sorry, ESPN.
Speaker 5: I was gonna do Schrigger. Yeah, no, we get it,
Speaker 5: we get it. Yeah, well we get it. Your name
Speaker 5: is hard, but what's your name too? And they not
Speaker 5: follow us.
Speaker 1: I had a great hope there for I S A
Speaker 1: A c R O c e h e l L.
Speaker 1: He got through the first five letters and then it
Speaker 1: was just all downhill from there.
Speaker 4: So I was gonna be much more insulting if I
Speaker 4: had tried to spell it, so I kept my mouth.
Speaker 1: Should tag anybody directed to April fools, gag at him.
Speaker 2: That's your group, the four people you just saw, not
Speaker 2: the three of us. We got to even say un
Speaker 2: locked insiders. Back to borrow, stir upper back there fly
Speaker 2: see it