WEBVTT - Bachelor Countdown Day 2: Lorenzo Borghese 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.600 This is that Ben and Nashley I Almost Famous Podcast 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.279 Bachelor Countdown. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.280 Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today we 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.880 are continuing our series leading up to Grand Season in 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.720 which we are interviewing a ton of former bachelors. This 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:24.479 is episode two with the Prince Lorenzo Burghesy. Welcome to 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.000 the show. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.680 Thank you, Happy New Year, and thanks for having me on. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.920 Thank you. Okay, so Lorenzo, please tell us all how 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.760 your prince and like you come across to me very American. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.600 I look at your Instagram, You're very entrenched in American culture. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:41.640 Yeah. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.960 Well, are you an American citizen and are you still 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:45.400 a prince? 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.239 Yeah? Well, I'm an American and Italian citizen. I was 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.320 born in Italy most United States when I was five, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.639 so I am pretty much an American now because I'm 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.240 fifty two, so I've been here for forty seven years. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:06.959 The prince title came back in the well. It started 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.399 in the sixteen hundreds. My relative was Camillo Borghesi. It 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.760 was Pope Paul the fifth. He was Pope from sixteen 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.640 oh five to sixteen twenty one, and back in the 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.040 sixteen hundreds, the pope was like a king he had 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:25.360 his own army. At that time, my family controlled about 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.280 let's say, a third of the land of Italy. And 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.560 because he had power, he also had the power to 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:38.080 bestow titles on different family members and heads of the family, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.679 and my side of the family received five different titles, 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.600 everything from duke to prince. So it's trickled down from 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.840 generation to generation. I've said this and means absolutely nothing 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.520 regarding power. It's just sort of like the Colosseum is 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.520 there to you know, you go to the Coloseum in 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.680 Rome and there's history there, and it's just states that 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.880 I'm part of a family that helped to, you know, 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.600 build Italy and create Rome. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:11.000 Without those that know Italian history, the obviously that your 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:17.760 family's name does carry so much influence and historical significance. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.440 Do you have an issue with the Medicis. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.200 I haven't met him. The only issue I have was 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:28.400 with one of my great uncles who was playing cards 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.320 and how to Medici castle and lost in a card games. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.840 That's the only story I have my father. I go 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.040 back with my family occasionally into Rome and he gives 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.440 me a little history and I learned a little bit 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.680 more and more, and we were in Tuscany one day 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.760 and driving around and he stops and he showed me 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.280 this castle and he said, yeah, that used to be 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.679 it was his uncle's castle and he was and he said, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.239 I used to go there and we lost it in 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:56.680 a card game. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:01.560 So no, wait for real, that's that was so good, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.799 my gosh. Okay, So if you're a prince, you come 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.160 from this very well known Italian family, why did your 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.040 family come to America when you're five? 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.799 I asked my father the same question because every time 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.240 I go to Rome, I mean, I love Italy and 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:20.320 Rome's my favorite international city. And when my father was 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.680 growing up, he tells me a story. How you know, 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.200 he grew up during World War two when he was 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.360 a little kid, and he said, at that time he 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.800 didn't realize anything about our background. But the family was 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.160 taken to Florence and he stayed in He and his 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.560 brother stayed in the penthouse in one of the five 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.680 star hotels in Florence while the war was going on. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.720 So he said to him, you know, everything was great 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.200 because they played soccer with the soldiers up on the 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.880 penthouse there and he had a great time. And then 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.480 they started bombing Lawrence and taking out the bridges and 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.000 they would drop flyers telling everybody to get out of Florence. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:05.320 And then he moved to another hotel, which was I 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.000 think a one star hotel and into the basement. And 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.360 at that point he realized that war wasn't so great. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.200 And when the war ended, a lot of our property 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.400 had been damaged, a lot of the family property had 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.520 been damaged, and my grandfather at the time realized that 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:24.040 he had to. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:24.520 Go to work. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.240 That everything, as you know from the sixteen hundreds on 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:33.640 with the family accumulated, was ending quickly. And for example, 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:38.640 nineteen oh one, the Roman government took over the gallery 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.880 of the Villa Borghese, which is Gallery of Borghese now 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.520 and all the property. And the way they did that 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.480 actually was nineteen oh two, was that they nationalized it. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.840 And they were able to nationalize it by taxing the 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:54.240 family an amount that we couldn't pay, so we had 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:58.000 to hand it over to the Roman municipality. So it 0:04:58.040 --> 0:04:59.960 started in the early nineteen hundreds. But after the war 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:06.920 we lost a lot of property and my grandfather realized 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.480 he had to go to work. And what he did 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.520 before this, which is what my father told me, it 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.599 tells me is that he was a hunter and what 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.120 they would do is go hunting almost every other day. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.080 And the hobby. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.159 What's that like a hobby? 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.480 Yeah, well, but that's what they did, go horseback riding 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.920 and hunting for pheasants, and it was a big thing. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.040 It's like, you know men that play golf now and 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.240 they talk about their golf game. This is what my 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.520 grandfather grew up doing and that's all he knew. And 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.920 then when everything was essentially taken away after the war, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.760 he's like, I need to go to work, and he 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:45.479 became head of Ford Motor Cars then. And then my 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.320 grandmother also realized that maybe it's a good thing that 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.800 she goes to work, and she had the idea of 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:57.440 creating lipsticks that match your wardrobe. At the time, I 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.680 think there were only three lipstick colors and she's like, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.839 you know what, I would like different lipstick shades to 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.520 match everything. I'm worrying. So she met with Charles Revson, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.200 who was the head of Revlan at the time, and 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.320 they decided to create a cosmetic line called Princess Marchella Borghese, 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.400 which she launched, and in order to do so, she 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.600 had to get permission from the pope at the time 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.520 in order to start a business, and it was really 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.840 frowned upon from what my father tells me from other 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.960 members of the family, because it was the first time 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.680 that Borgheses actually had to go to work. When my 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.599 father was twenty one, his first job was working for 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.760 his mother. He was working at Princess Marchella Borghese Cosmetics. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.479 He got married shortly after that to my mother. He 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.279 met her at a wedding in Florence and they spoke. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.520 They had maybe three sentences in three months they were married. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.159 So now he had a family. My mom was living 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.280 in the United States. She moved to Rome with him, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:59.200 and he realized that if he kept working with my grandmother, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.480 his mother at the time, that he was sort of stuck. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.960 He was, you know, the son of the founder and 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.240 he didn't want that. And at that time, believe it 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.560 or not, it was difficult as Borgesy to get a job. Okay, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.240 you just and I don't understand the real background why, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.120 but he said, listen, you know, you just can't go 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.920 into a company and ask for a job. There was 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.200 it was sort of frowned upon. So he knew that 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.240 there was another thing. At times at the time, didn't 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.119 really work very hard, and he knew that he wanted 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.600 to bring us up with a good work ethic, and 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.960 he realized that it wasn't going to happen in Italy 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.240 and to get away from Italy, and at that time 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.160 we decided to move the family to Paris and we 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.280 lived there for two years. And he said, you know, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.000 the real place to live is the United States, because 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.920 that's the real place of opportunity and it sort of 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.320 leaves the family history behind and we can start from scratch. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.120 So my father really moved us here with nothing. I mean, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.640 he didn't have a job. He did have he did 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.680 go to Oxford for his underground and then he went 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.960 to UPenn for grad school. So obviously he was fluent 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.320 in English and had an American education, least in business school. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.720 And he just my father's an incredible work ethic. And 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.240 he also doesn't like to talk about the past very often. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.200 And I don't know why either. It's just he just 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.760 grew up in a different time than I did. But 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.560 I learned more and more about our history every time 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:26.680 I talked to him, and every time we go to 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.400 Italy together. But it's you know, some people love to 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.920 talk about everything, and he doesn't. He's more passionate about 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:42.120 having a family that has you know, that's that understands 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.840 what it is to be a family. Priority is his family, work, ethic, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.120 and friends. And he realized that wasn't gonna happen in Italy. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.280 And that's sort of a short story of why we 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:54.800 moved here. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.719 It's so interesting to me picking up on some of 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.200 that stuff you said, you're your grandfather realized he had 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.880 to go back to work, so he took over Ford 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.160 Motor Company. What a wild decision to go back to 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.360 work and say, hey, you know what I'm gonna do. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.840 I'm gonna take over one of the largest automobile manufacturers 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.280 in the country or in the world. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.080 And it was our first job. Yeah, it was. It 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:23.240 wasn't them. And then my grandparents and I don't know 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:27.320 the whole story either, but they I think got exhausted 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.760 being in Rome, and my grandma would tell me, you know, 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.959 every night they had to go out, they had to entertain. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.320 It was really tiring, and so they decided to leave 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.040 and they moved to Switzerland and they ever since I 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.079 was a kid, I visit them in Switzerland, not Italy. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.840 I would go with them in the Summertimes Italy, but 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.719 they live primarily in Switzerland and they just said they 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.080 just wanted to get away from Italy. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.880 Well, not to make a massive turn here, but your 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.440 background now leads me to this question. You have the 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:03.120 prince title, as you mentioned, based on your family history. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.200 But I'm assuming, and tell me if I'm wrong. But 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.560 I'm assuming now in your work and in your personal life, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:17.040 you don't interest in You don't introduce yourself as Prince Lorenzo. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.880 I don't I feel you know. I I think if 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:28.520 you do, you're doing it for the wrong reasons, right, sure, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.400 and it's not really genuine. But I also have to 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.040 look back. You know, there's there's blessings to it too, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.440 because I know there's no way that I would have 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.520 gotten chosen for the Bachelor if I didn't have the history. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.720 And one of the first things they asked me when 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.080 they interviewed me is like, why why don't we know 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.640 anything about you? Do you have any head shots? Et cetera. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.360 I was like, head shots, I'm not a model. Like, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.480 if you guys looking for a model, I'm not your guy. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.600 I'm just a regular guy living in New York City. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.560 That happened to have an interesting background. And when I 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.120 met with them, I remember, you know, we looked at 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.000 it at a map of Rome and obviously Billi Borgiaes 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.920 is a huge part of it. It's like Central Park 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.640 of Rome, and they started looking at the history and 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.560 that's when it really became exciting for them. So, you know, 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.280 I used it in that sense because I knew that 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:24.520 they wanted to do it, and I figure, obviously not 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.160 a lot of people have the background, and if I 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.360 can get an edge, and you know, because life is 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.720 very hard, I will take it. But I don't like 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.520 to do it when I'm around, you know, friends and 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.520 just meeting people, because it's just I don't feel it's 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.880 necessary and I think it's a sign of weakness when 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.240 you have to introduce yourself that way. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.720 But it's an incredible like you said, it's an incredible 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:47.920 history and it's an incredible gift, and it is a 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.560 title that is true to you. I'm wondering, though, is 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:55.440 there any I mean resentment on your end that the 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.240 show did use it, because now when people you know 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.160 that are fans of the show here your name, they 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.720 immediately associate it with Prince. Are you is that something 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.040 that you're proud of or are you kind of like 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.400 I wish that wasn't the case because I'd prefer not 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:12.880 to have people know me in that way. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.880 You know, I'm realistic about it. And again, if it 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.280 wasn't for the title and the and the family history, 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.280 I wouldn't have been picked for the show, especially because 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:27.320 of the family history. And you know, I'm not upset 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.240 that they did it. I think they had to do it, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.800 and I think it's it helps ratings. I think that 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.160 if it was just Lorenzo Borghese hanging out in New 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.520 York City as a bachelor, I don't think the ratings 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.360 would have been, you know, up there as they were. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.439 I understand it's a business and they use the show 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:45.960 as a business, and I said, you know what, why 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.600 don't I use this as a business too, And as 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.320 I said, you know, if I can, I will use 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.160 it when I think it's necessary, when there's there's an 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.160 opportunity that I don't think I can get without it. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.080 That's a gift that was given to me just because 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.440 of my family history. But as a person, I don't 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.280 use it and I'm not upset when they When they 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.079 do use it because I realize it's opened a lot 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.400 of doors for me, Like you know, I have an 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.920 animal charity and I was able to start it and 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.640 really grow it because of the of the Bachelor, and 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.680 the Bachelor's opened a lot of doors for me. And again, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.680 I won't have opened up those doors for me if 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:33.200 there wasn't that family history. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:40.160 Were the casting producers on the hunt for a prince 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.640 because this was back in the day where the bachelor 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.840 wasn't necessarily from the previous season, but often just a 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:52.520 very wealthy uh you know, I don't know how to 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:58.280 else describe it, like desirable desire, like yeah, Desira, there 0:13:58.280 --> 0:13:59.800 you go, Yeah, thank you man. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.040 So this was two thousand and six, and I think 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.599 a couple of years before they almost canceled it. The 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.920 ratings had dropped and then they picked up again. And 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.160 I believe the season before mine was in Paris, and 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.160 I think it was the first and I could be wrong, 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.720 but I think it was the first time they filmed abroad, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:19.560 like a season outside of the US, and I believe 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.240 the ratings were pretty good for that season, and so 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.360 they were trying to, I think, look for something different, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.960 and they were trying to find an angle, and I'm 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.360 sure they had a lot of people that they were 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.280 looking at too that had a different sort of story 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.560 to tell. And I think that they love the fact that, hey, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.560 maybe we can get you know, like this fairy tale 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:46.200 prince princess wedding at the end, and you know, if 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.120 I had been from a different country, that wasn't as 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.200 pretty to film as you know, and like being in 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.120 Rome is a beautiful place to film, and it's obviously 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.360 very scenic, but also extremely expensive. And I think that 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.720 they told me they would never film in Italy again 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.280 because it was so expensive and every time you turn 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.360 on a light switch there you need ten ten crew 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:10.400 members from Italy to do it, like basically, like it 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.360 was like unionized everywhere. I believe they really ripped off 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.200 ABC and Warner Brothers because they knew it was it 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:22.400 was a TV show, but it was extremely expensive, and 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.680 you know, I don't really know what they were looking for, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.200 but I think they were looking for something different and 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.640 that whole you know, history of the family and being 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.760 able to film at Villa Borgaze and being able to 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.440 film all over the Borghesy properties in Rome was something 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:40.880 that they were excited about. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:42.320 I was excited. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.800 I'm excited about it just because I love Italy. My 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.520 wife is Italian and we just went and I'm like, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.720 this is this has to be one of the coolest 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.920 moments for everybody on the crew and cast. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.680 Did you go to Rome or where'd you go? 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.600 We went to Rome and we went to Florence. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.960 That's why when we were prepping for this, I was 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.760 very familiar with the brig acy name and the influence, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.480 and it was very exciting for me now to speak 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.840 with you because I think this is such an iconic 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.000 season of The Bachelor, and we've talked so much now 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.040 about your family history that I think so many people 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.640 are going to be intrigued by because I think, yes, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.680 you had the prince title, but I think people have 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.080 forgotten exactly how. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.600 What that means to you and what that means. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.240 To your family, and that you're still here in the 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.000 United States and that you don't live in a castle 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.760 in Rome. I think this is going to be really helpful, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.920 But I want to transition because you have a huge 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.040 thing happening in your life. You just got engaged, and 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.440 this engagement is something that we want to celebrate because 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.760 that's why The Bachelor exists is to help people find love. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.920 You're fifty two years old, though, and so my question 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.920 before we transition into the engagement is, with everything that 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.400 we've talked about so far, and now that you're fifty 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.160 two and you just got engaged, how much of The 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.680 Bachelor is still a part of your life? Do people 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.160 still bring it up? Does it still help you get 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.919 doors open? Is it still something that you talk about, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.880 you know, in once a week, once a day, once 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.879 a year. How much of The Bachelor still is a 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.320 part of your life experience right now. 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:21.160 I would say maybe one percent at best. I don't 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:26.040 talk about it. My fiance obviously despised, not obviously, but 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.720 despises the fact that I was on the show. You know, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.359 it was very hard for her to tell her parents 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.200 that she was, first of all, dating an older guy 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.560 and secondly that he was on the Bachelor. And I 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.240 can understand, you know, one day I'll be a father, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.840 and I think I'd be pretty upsetset about it too 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.199 in a way. It but you know, for I can 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.320 always defend myself and saying, hey, listen, you know, people 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.040 don't get these opportunities often, and if you get an opportunity, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.280 I never want to be the person that thinks of 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.920 what if, you know, I like to if I gets 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.800 something unique, I like to try, and if it didn't 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.199 work out, it didn't work out. But I was I 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.320 was given an opportunity that most people, the ninety nine 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.280 point nine nine percent of the population, will never get, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.760 and so I don't regret doing it. But as part 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.680 of my life now it's it's really non existing. People 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.119 don't recognize me anymore. I remember it lasted for about 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.840 five years and then it started slowing down. And now 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.879 with you know, with how media has changed too. You know, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:36.760 everyone's preoccupied with with their social media there through the TikTok, Netflix, 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.880 everything else is going on, and so you know, talking 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.399 about a show those in two thousand and six, you know, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.239 it makes me sound ancient almost at this time. So 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.679 it's not really brought up. If I'm doing I do 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.080 a lot of charity work, and when I'm introduced, they 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.960 will they will get my history, like and they'll say 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.720 that I was the Bacheter and things like that. But 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.119 day to day it's it's not brought up. And I know, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:18:59.840 you know, I work with a lot of people that 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.800 all of a sudden I'm known for ten years and 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.000 they'll call me like, wait a second, I know you 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.440 were the Bachelor. That's like, yeah, Like why don't you 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.320 tell me? I was like, why would I bring that up? 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:11.880 You know, it's just nothing that I would just. 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.760 Have Prince Lorenzo former Bachelor's. 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:21.880 It just doesn't come up. But what's interesting though, sort 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.960 of going back to the Bachelor and to realize that 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.399 it did have an influence on me, is that we 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.040 filmed the show primarily in a town called for Scotty 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:33.560 and I and you probably didn't get to see it 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.240 from you probab didn't go there from Rome, but it's 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.080 about an hour outside of Rome's. It's up on the 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:42.760 hilltop and it overlooks the city. On a bright beautiful day, 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.080 you could actually see you could see Rome in the distance. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.240 In for Scotti, they found a billity that used to 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.639 be owned by buy my relatives, And I wrote a 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.760 book on one relative that actually lost her son there, 0:19:55.640 --> 0:20:02.760 and that was Paulinea Bonaparte Borghese, who was Napoleon's sibling. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.680 It was his sister and she was only sibling that 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.080 went to Elbow with him when he was exiled. She 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:12.040 married at Borghese. She married Camillo Borghese, and it wasn't 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.160 a marriage out of love, but it was a forced marriage, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.760 an alliance with the Vatican and in Italy. And one 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.000 of the reasons why there's a Borghese area in the 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:26.840 Louver Museum is because Napoleon forced Camillo to ship paintings 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:32.280 from Rome to Paris. Okay, so there's he gave. He 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.959 gave Napoleon a lot of paintings. But going back from Frascatti, 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.359 it used to be called Villa Borghese, there where Paulina 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.800 Bonaparte Borghese lived for a while and her son died 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.600 there and that's where The Bachelor was filmed in this 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:50.680 in this villa, and there are frescoes of my family 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.000 painted on the wall. And I didn't even know this 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.720 villa existed until I was on The Bachelor, and it's 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.800 my whole family history is right there. And in the 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:02.000 same town it was ann or miss villa called Villa 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.159 Aldo Aldo Brondini. My tie is terrible, but the Aldo 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:11.000 Brondini family was another huge family in Italy. The pope 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:16.480 prior to Camillo Borghese was an Aldo Brundini. He is 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:22.480 buried in the Borghese crypt in Rome, and he's related 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.200 to us because the family had no more males left. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:31.359 So another Camillo Borghese married Olympia Aldro Bondini and changed 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:34.640 his name to Aldre Bondini, so that family is related 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.479 to the Borgheses now. And I said, the pope is 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.600 there's we have two popes in our crypt ones are 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.960 borghesian Ones and alder Berndini, but they're both affiliated with 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:48.960 the family. And that gigantic villa is where my fiancee, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.000 Dosh and I are getting married in June, so in 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:56.320 the same town that The Bachelor was filmed in and 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.520 in that and I used to see that villa every 0:21:58.600 --> 0:21:59.920