1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: This is that Ben and Nashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Bachelor Countdown. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today we 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: are continuing our series leading up to Grand Season in 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: which we are interviewing a ton of former bachelors. This 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: is episode two with the Prince Lorenzo Burghesy. Welcome to 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: the show. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, Happy New Year, and thanks for having me on. 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, so Lorenzo, please tell us all how 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: your prince and like you come across to me very American. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: I look at your Instagram, You're very entrenched in American culture. 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Well, are you an American citizen and are you still 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: a prince? 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I'm an American and Italian citizen. I was 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: born in Italy most United States when I was five, 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: so I am pretty much an American now because I'm 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: fifty two, so I've been here for forty seven years. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: The prince title came back in the well. It started 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: in the sixteen hundreds. My relative was Camillo Borghesi. It 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: was Pope Paul the fifth. He was Pope from sixteen 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: oh five to sixteen twenty one, and back in the 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: sixteen hundreds, the pope was like a king he had 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: his own army. At that time, my family controlled about 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: let's say, a third of the land of Italy. And 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: because he had power, he also had the power to 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: bestow titles on different family members and heads of the family, 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: and my side of the family received five different titles, 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: everything from duke to prince. So it's trickled down from 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: generation to generation. I've said this and means absolutely nothing 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: regarding power. It's just sort of like the Colosseum is 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: there to you know, you go to the Coloseum in 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: Rome and there's history there, and it's just states that 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: I'm part of a family that helped to, you know, 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: build Italy and create Rome. 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Without those that know Italian history, the obviously that your 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: family's name does carry so much influence and historical significance. 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: Do you have an issue with the Medicis. 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: I haven't met him. The only issue I have was 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: with one of my great uncles who was playing cards 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: and how to Medici castle and lost in a card games. 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: That's the only story I have my father. I go 43 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: back with my family occasionally into Rome and he gives 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: me a little history and I learned a little bit 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: more and more, and we were in Tuscany one day 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: and driving around and he stops and he showed me 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: this castle and he said, yeah, that used to be 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 3: it was his uncle's castle and he was and he said, 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: I used to go there and we lost it in 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: a card game. 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: So no, wait for real, that's that was so good, 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: my gosh. Okay, So if you're a prince, you come 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: from this very well known Italian family, why did your 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: family come to America when you're five? 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: I asked my father the same question because every time 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: I go to Rome, I mean, I love Italy and 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: Rome's my favorite international city. And when my father was 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: growing up, he tells me a story. How you know, 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: he grew up during World War two when he was 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: a little kid, and he said, at that time he 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: didn't realize anything about our background. But the family was 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: taken to Florence and he stayed in He and his 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: brother stayed in the penthouse in one of the five 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: star hotels in Florence while the war was going on. 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: So he said to him, you know, everything was great 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: because they played soccer with the soldiers up on the 67 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: penthouse there and he had a great time. And then 68 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: they started bombing Lawrence and taking out the bridges and 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: they would drop flyers telling everybody to get out of Florence. 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: And then he moved to another hotel, which was I 71 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: think a one star hotel and into the basement. And 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: at that point he realized that war wasn't so great. 73 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: And when the war ended, a lot of our property 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: had been damaged, a lot of the family property had 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: been damaged, and my grandfather at the time realized that 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: he had to. 77 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: Go to work. 78 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: That everything, as you know from the sixteen hundreds on 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: with the family accumulated, was ending quickly. And for example, 80 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: nineteen oh one, the Roman government took over the gallery 81 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: of the Villa Borghese, which is Gallery of Borghese now 82 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: and all the property. And the way they did that 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: actually was nineteen oh two, was that they nationalized it. 84 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: And they were able to nationalize it by taxing the 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: family an amount that we couldn't pay, so we had 86 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: to hand it over to the Roman municipality. So it 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: started in the early nineteen hundreds. But after the war 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: we lost a lot of property and my grandfather realized 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: he had to go to work. And what he did 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: before this, which is what my father told me, it 91 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: tells me is that he was a hunter and what 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: they would do is go hunting almost every other day. 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: And the hobby. 94 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: What's that like a hobby? 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, but that's what they did, go horseback riding 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: and hunting for pheasants, and it was a big thing. 97 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: It's like, you know men that play golf now and 98 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: they talk about their golf game. This is what my 99 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: grandfather grew up doing and that's all he knew. And 100 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: then when everything was essentially taken away after the war, 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: he's like, I need to go to work, and he 102 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: became head of Ford Motor Cars then. And then my 103 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: grandmother also realized that maybe it's a good thing that 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: she goes to work, and she had the idea of 105 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: creating lipsticks that match your wardrobe. At the time, I 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: think there were only three lipstick colors and she's like, 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: you know what, I would like different lipstick shades to 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: match everything. I'm worrying. So she met with Charles Revson, 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: who was the head of Revlan at the time, and 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: they decided to create a cosmetic line called Princess Marchella Borghese, 111 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: which she launched, and in order to do so, she 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: had to get permission from the pope at the time 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: in order to start a business, and it was really 114 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: frowned upon from what my father tells me from other 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: members of the family, because it was the first time 116 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: that Borgheses actually had to go to work. When my 117 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: father was twenty one, his first job was working for 118 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: his mother. He was working at Princess Marchella Borghese Cosmetics. 119 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: He got married shortly after that to my mother. He 120 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: met her at a wedding in Florence and they spoke. 121 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: They had maybe three sentences in three months they were married. 122 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: So now he had a family. My mom was living 123 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: in the United States. She moved to Rome with him, 124 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: and he realized that if he kept working with my grandmother, 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: his mother at the time, that he was sort of stuck. 126 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: He was, you know, the son of the founder and 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: he didn't want that. And at that time, believe it 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: or not, it was difficult as Borgesy to get a job. Okay, 129 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: you just and I don't understand the real background why, 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: but he said, listen, you know, you just can't go 131 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: into a company and ask for a job. There was 132 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: it was sort of frowned upon. So he knew that 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: there was another thing. At times at the time, didn't 134 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 3: really work very hard, and he knew that he wanted 135 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: to bring us up with a good work ethic, and 136 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: he realized that it wasn't going to happen in Italy 137 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: and to get away from Italy, and at that time 138 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: we decided to move the family to Paris and we 139 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: lived there for two years. And he said, you know, 140 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: the real place to live is the United States, because 141 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: that's the real place of opportunity and it sort of 142 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: leaves the family history behind and we can start from scratch. 143 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: So my father really moved us here with nothing. I mean, 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: he didn't have a job. He did have he did 145 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: go to Oxford for his underground and then he went 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: to UPenn for grad school. So obviously he was fluent 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: in English and had an American education, least in business school. 148 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: And he just my father's an incredible work ethic. And 149 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: he also doesn't like to talk about the past very often. 150 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: And I don't know why either. It's just he just 151 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: grew up in a different time than I did. But 152 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: I learned more and more about our history every time 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: I talked to him, and every time we go to 154 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: Italy together. But it's you know, some people love to 155 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: talk about everything, and he doesn't. He's more passionate about 156 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: having a family that has you know, that's that understands 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: what it is to be a family. Priority is his family, work, ethic, 158 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: and friends. And he realized that wasn't gonna happen in Italy. 159 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: And that's sort of a short story of why we 160 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: moved here. 161 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: It's so interesting to me picking up on some of 162 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: that stuff you said, you're your grandfather realized he had 163 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: to go back to work, so he took over Ford 164 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Motor Company. What a wild decision to go back to 165 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: work and say, hey, you know what I'm gonna do. 166 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take over one of the largest automobile manufacturers 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: in the country or in the world. 168 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: And it was our first job. Yeah, it was. It 169 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: wasn't them. And then my grandparents and I don't know 170 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: the whole story either, but they I think got exhausted 171 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: being in Rome, and my grandma would tell me, you know, 172 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 3: every night they had to go out, they had to entertain. 173 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: It was really tiring, and so they decided to leave 174 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: and they moved to Switzerland and they ever since I 175 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 3: was a kid, I visit them in Switzerland, not Italy. 176 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: I would go with them in the Summertimes Italy, but 177 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: they live primarily in Switzerland and they just said they 178 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: just wanted to get away from Italy. 179 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Well, not to make a massive turn here, but your 180 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: background now leads me to this question. You have the 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: prince title, as you mentioned, based on your family history. 182 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: But I'm assuming, and tell me if I'm wrong. But 183 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm assuming now in your work and in your personal life, 184 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: you don't interest in You don't introduce yourself as Prince Lorenzo. 185 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: I don't I feel you know. I I think if 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: you do, you're doing it for the wrong reasons, right, sure, 187 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: and it's not really genuine. But I also have to 188 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: look back. You know, there's there's blessings to it too, 189 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: because I know there's no way that I would have 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: gotten chosen for the Bachelor if I didn't have the history. 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: And one of the first things they asked me when 192 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: they interviewed me is like, why why don't we know 193 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: anything about you? Do you have any head shots? Et cetera. 194 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: I was like, head shots, I'm not a model. Like, 195 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: if you guys looking for a model, I'm not your guy. 196 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm just a regular guy living in New York City. 197 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: That happened to have an interesting background. And when I 198 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: met with them, I remember, you know, we looked at 199 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: it at a map of Rome and obviously Billi Borgiaes 200 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: is a huge part of it. It's like Central Park 201 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: of Rome, and they started looking at the history and 202 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: that's when it really became exciting for them. So, you know, 203 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: I used it in that sense because I knew that 204 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: they wanted to do it, and I figure, obviously not 205 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people have the background, and if I 206 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: can get an edge, and you know, because life is 207 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: very hard, I will take it. But I don't like 208 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: to do it when I'm around, you know, friends and 209 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: just meeting people, because it's just I don't feel it's 210 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: necessary and I think it's a sign of weakness when 211 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: you have to introduce yourself that way. 212 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: But it's an incredible like you said, it's an incredible 213 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: history and it's an incredible gift, and it is a 214 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: title that is true to you. I'm wondering, though, is 215 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: there any I mean resentment on your end that the 216 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: show did use it, because now when people you know 217 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: that are fans of the show here your name, they 218 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: immediately associate it with Prince. Are you is that something 219 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: that you're proud of or are you kind of like 220 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: I wish that wasn't the case because I'd prefer not 221 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: to have people know me in that way. 222 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: You know, I'm realistic about it. And again, if it 223 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: wasn't for the title and the and the family history, 224 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been picked for the show, especially because 225 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: of the family history. And you know, I'm not upset 226 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: that they did it. I think they had to do it, 227 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: and I think it's it helps ratings. I think that 228 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: if it was just Lorenzo Borghese hanging out in New 229 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: York City as a bachelor, I don't think the ratings 230 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: would have been, you know, up there as they were. 231 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: I understand it's a business and they use the show 232 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: as a business, and I said, you know what, why 233 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: don't I use this as a business too, And as 234 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: I said, you know, if I can, I will use 235 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: it when I think it's necessary, when there's there's an 236 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: opportunity that I don't think I can get without it. 237 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: That's a gift that was given to me just because 238 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: of my family history. But as a person, I don't 239 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: use it and I'm not upset when they When they 240 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: do use it because I realize it's opened a lot 241 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: of doors for me, Like you know, I have an 242 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: animal charity and I was able to start it and 243 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: really grow it because of the of the Bachelor, and 244 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: the Bachelor's opened a lot of doors for me. And again, 245 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: I won't have opened up those doors for me if 246 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: there wasn't that family history. 247 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Were the casting producers on the hunt for a prince 248 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: because this was back in the day where the bachelor 249 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily from the previous season, but often just a 250 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: very wealthy uh you know, I don't know how to 251 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: else describe it, like desirable desire, like yeah, Desira, there 252 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: you go, Yeah, thank you man. 253 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: So this was two thousand and six, and I think 254 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 3: a couple of years before they almost canceled it. The 255 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: ratings had dropped and then they picked up again. And 256 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: I believe the season before mine was in Paris, and 257 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: I think it was the first and I could be wrong, 258 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: but I think it was the first time they filmed abroad, 259 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: like a season outside of the US, and I believe 260 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: the ratings were pretty good for that season, and so 261 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: they were trying to, I think, look for something different, 262 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: and they were trying to find an angle, and I'm 263 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: sure they had a lot of people that they were 264 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: looking at too that had a different sort of story 265 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: to tell. And I think that they love the fact that, hey, 266 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: maybe we can get you know, like this fairy tale 267 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: prince princess wedding at the end, and you know, if 268 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: I had been from a different country, that wasn't as 269 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: pretty to film as you know, and like being in 270 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: Rome is a beautiful place to film, and it's obviously 271 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: very scenic, but also extremely expensive. And I think that 272 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: they told me they would never film in Italy again 273 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: because it was so expensive and every time you turn 274 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: on a light switch there you need ten ten crew 275 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: members from Italy to do it, like basically, like it 276 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: was like unionized everywhere. I believe they really ripped off 277 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: ABC and Warner Brothers because they knew it was it 278 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: was a TV show, but it was extremely expensive, and 279 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: you know, I don't really know what they were looking for, 280 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: but I think they were looking for something different and 281 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: that whole you know, history of the family and being 282 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: able to film at Villa Borgaze and being able to 283 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: film all over the Borghesy properties in Rome was something 284 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: that they were excited about. 285 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: I was excited. 286 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it just because I love Italy. My 287 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: wife is Italian and we just went and I'm like, 288 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: this is this has to be one of the coolest 289 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: moments for everybody on the crew and cast. 290 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: Did you go to Rome or where'd you go? 291 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: We went to Rome and we went to Florence. 292 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: That's why when we were prepping for this, I was 293 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: very familiar with the brig acy name and the influence, 294 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: and it was very exciting for me now to speak 295 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: with you because I think this is such an iconic 296 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor, and we've talked so much now 297 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: about your family history that I think so many people 298 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: are going to be intrigued by because I think, yes, 299 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: you had the prince title, but I think people have 300 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: forgotten exactly how. 301 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: What that means to you and what that means. 302 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: To your family, and that you're still here in the 303 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: United States and that you don't live in a castle 304 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: in Rome. I think this is going to be really helpful, 305 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: But I want to transition because you have a huge 306 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: thing happening in your life. You just got engaged, and 307 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: this engagement is something that we want to celebrate because 308 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: that's why The Bachelor exists is to help people find love. 309 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: You're fifty two years old, though, and so my question 310 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: before we transition into the engagement is, with everything that 311 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: we've talked about so far, and now that you're fifty 312 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: two and you just got engaged, how much of The 313 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: Bachelor is still a part of your life? Do people 314 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: still bring it up? Does it still help you get 315 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: doors open? Is it still something that you talk about, 316 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, in once a week, once a day, once 317 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: a year. How much of The Bachelor still is a 318 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: part of your life experience right now. 319 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: I would say maybe one percent at best. I don't 320 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: talk about it. My fiance obviously despised, not obviously, but 321 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: despises the fact that I was on the show. You know, 322 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: it was very hard for her to tell her parents 323 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: that she was, first of all, dating an older guy 324 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: and secondly that he was on the Bachelor. And I 325 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: can understand, you know, one day I'll be a father, 326 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: and I think I'd be pretty upsetset about it too 327 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 3: in a way. It but you know, for I can 328 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: always defend myself and saying, hey, listen, you know, people 329 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: don't get these opportunities often, and if you get an opportunity, 330 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: I never want to be the person that thinks of 331 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: what if, you know, I like to if I gets 332 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: something unique, I like to try, and if it didn't 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: work out, it didn't work out. But I was I 334 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: was given an opportunity that most people, the ninety nine 335 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: point nine nine percent of the population, will never get, 336 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: and so I don't regret doing it. But as part 337 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: of my life now it's it's really non existing. People 338 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: don't recognize me anymore. I remember it lasted for about 339 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: five years and then it started slowing down. And now 340 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: with you know, with how media has changed too. You know, 341 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: everyone's preoccupied with with their social media there through the TikTok, Netflix, 342 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: everything else is going on, and so you know, talking 343 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: about a show those in two thousand and six, you know, 344 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 3: it makes me sound ancient almost at this time. So 345 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: it's not really brought up. If I'm doing I do 346 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: a lot of charity work, and when I'm introduced, they 347 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: will they will get my history, like and they'll say 348 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: that I was the Bacheter and things like that. But 349 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: day to day it's it's not brought up. And I know, 350 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: you know, I work with a lot of people that 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: all of a sudden I'm known for ten years and 352 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: they'll call me like, wait a second, I know you 353 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: were the Bachelor. That's like, yeah, Like why don't you 354 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: tell me? I was like, why would I bring that up? 355 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's just nothing that I would just. 356 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: Have Prince Lorenzo former Bachelor's. 357 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 3: It just doesn't come up. But what's interesting though, sort 358 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: of going back to the Bachelor and to realize that 359 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: it did have an influence on me, is that we 360 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: filmed the show primarily in a town called for Scotty 361 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: and I and you probably didn't get to see it 362 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: from you probab didn't go there from Rome, but it's 363 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: about an hour outside of Rome's. It's up on the 364 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: hilltop and it overlooks the city. On a bright beautiful day, 365 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: you could actually see you could see Rome in the distance. 366 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: In for Scotti, they found a billity that used to 367 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: be owned by buy my relatives, And I wrote a 368 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: book on one relative that actually lost her son there, 369 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: and that was Paulinea Bonaparte Borghese, who was Napoleon's sibling. 370 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: It was his sister and she was only sibling that 371 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: went to Elbow with him when he was exiled. She 372 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: married at Borghese. She married Camillo Borghese, and it wasn't 373 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: a marriage out of love, but it was a forced marriage, 374 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: an alliance with the Vatican and in Italy. And one 375 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: of the reasons why there's a Borghese area in the 376 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: Louver Museum is because Napoleon forced Camillo to ship paintings 377 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: from Rome to Paris. Okay, so there's he gave. He 378 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 3: gave Napoleon a lot of paintings. But going back from Frascatti, 379 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: it used to be called Villa Borghese, there where Paulina 380 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: Bonaparte Borghese lived for a while and her son died 381 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: there and that's where The Bachelor was filmed in this 382 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: in this villa, and there are frescoes of my family 383 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: painted on the wall. And I didn't even know this 384 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: villa existed until I was on The Bachelor, and it's 385 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: my whole family history is right there. And in the 386 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: same town it was ann or miss villa called Villa 387 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: Aldo Aldo Brondini. My tie is terrible, but the Aldo 388 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: Brondini family was another huge family in Italy. The pope 389 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: prior to Camillo Borghese was an Aldo Brundini. He is 390 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: buried in the Borghese crypt in Rome, and he's related 391 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: to us because the family had no more males left. 392 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: So another Camillo Borghese married Olympia Aldro Bondini and changed 393 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: his name to Aldre Bondini, so that family is related 394 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 3: to the Borgheses now. And I said, the pope is 395 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: there's we have two popes in our crypt ones are 396 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: borghesian Ones and alder Berndini, but they're both affiliated with 397 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: the family. And that gigantic villa is where my fiancee, 398 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: Dosh and I are getting married in June, so in 399 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: the same town that The Bachelor was filmed in and 400 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: in that and I used to see that villa every 401 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: day and it was enormous and it was my favor 402 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: one there besides the Borghese one. And I didn't know 403 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: the history of it until I started doing the research 404 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: for this wedding. And they don't allow a lot of 405 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 3: weddings there, but they do it if by, you know, 406 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: if the family says okay, and they said okay, that's well. Fortunately. 407 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: But it all sort of ties back to, you know, 408 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: being in FRESCOTTI doing the show, because I would have 409 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: never even known that either of these places existed. 410 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: That's cool, that's awesome. 411 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's it's amazing, and I do I 412 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: want to lean into then, this beautiful love story that 413 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: is happening right now. 414 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 4: You're gonna get married soon. Do you have a date 415 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: or are you sharing the date? 416 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, it's June fourteenth. 417 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: June fourteenth of this year coming up. It's an exciting time. 418 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: You did get engaged in Bora, Bora. There's a ton 419 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: of fun stories to this. I want to start with 420 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: the question that seems to be out there. I don't 421 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: know where our investigative team found it, but you hit 422 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: the ring in your underwear. 423 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: Right, very princely? 424 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 425 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 426 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: What? 427 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: Why? And how? And did she? Did she know this 428 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 4: after saying yes? Or before? 429 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: Oh? After like a couple of days after I okay, 430 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: the reason being you know you're you're married, right? 431 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: Yes? 432 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: Okay? So first of all, you're pretty nervous doing. 433 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 4: This, right goodness gracious? 434 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: And I had my mom bring over the ring because 435 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: I didn't want it. You know, obviously you don't want 436 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: to put it in your bag, so so you want 437 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: on your carry on. But if they go through your 438 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 3: carry on in front of your your future fiance, hopefully 439 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: your future fiance. You don't want them point out the ring. 440 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: So I had my mom take the ring for me. 441 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: We were celebrating her eightieth birthday. There were twenty eight 442 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: of us on this trip, and I'm like, including my 443 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: fiance's parents and her sister. So I was like, what 444 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: a perfect time to do it. And if I don't 445 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 3: do it, you'll probably break up with me as soon 446 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: as we get back, all right, it's been over two 447 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: years since I was dating her. So I have this 448 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: sunset cruise planned and I put on my jeans and 449 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: they're pretty tight, because I don't like to wear like 450 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: really baggy clothes unless you know, I'm in my I'm 451 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: in my place, just hanging out on the weekend. But 452 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: if I'm going to propose, I want something that looks 453 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: sort of decent on me. So I've got these tight jeans, 454 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: tight pants, and a shirt and the ring is in 455 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: a pretty big box. So I put it in my 456 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: pants pocket and it's bulging out, and I already thought 457 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: that she was. She suspected somebody was going on because 458 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: it's just two of us going on the sunset cruise 459 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: and Bora Bora. So I was like, you know, if 460 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: she sees a big bulge in my pocket, She's gonna 461 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: know what's happening. 462 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: She's going to know what's a ring? 463 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 3: It has to be a ring, its because I don't 464 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: know what else would look like a square in my 465 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: pocket with a big bulge like that. All right, So 466 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: and I'm like running out of the room. I'm like, 467 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: all right, where I put this? The only place I 468 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: could put it that had a little room was in 469 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: the front of my pants. And then I thought, then 470 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: her line on the boat, and I thought she was 471 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: gonna sort of she was holding my hand and like 472 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: her hand was on my leg. I was worried that 473 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: her hand would like sort of reach over by oxid 474 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: and feel this. 475 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 4: Maybe you happy to see me? Or is that a 476 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: ring in your pocket? 477 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: This is going to be this is going to be 478 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: a problem. So that's when I got up and I 479 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: went to the the It wasn't a very big boat, 480 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: but it had it had a downstairs area, and I 481 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: went downstairs, pulled the ring out and put it under 482 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: a pillow. And then I went back down there when 483 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: the time was right and proposed. But yeah, that's why, 484 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: that's why I had to put it in my pants. 485 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: So you didn't propose on your season of The Bachelor. 486 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: How much flack for that did you get from producers 487 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: in the network, especially probably since they were trying to 488 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: go with their fairy tale happily ever after. 489 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: Storyline because of NDA's. 490 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: Oh come on, they've are expired. 491 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, that was me. You can't even 492 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: find my season? Have you tried looking up my season? 493 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: Are you sure it's not on Apple? Because Apple seems 494 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: to have. 495 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: All of them. 496 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. 497 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna look it up right now as 498 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: we speak. You tell that, you tell them as much 499 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: as you can. 500 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: I'm just saying they weren't happy. 501 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so then you don't propose. Have you 502 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: ever proposed until this point? 503 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what's what was? 504 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: So? 505 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: I was the wrong person for the show for many reasons, 506 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: and one that really hit me. And you're you're gonna 507 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: think I'm an awful person. But I'll tell you why 508 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: I ended up doing this. I was engaged prior to 509 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 3: the show. Okay, I dated the girl was engaged to 510 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: for seven years. I got engaged and we went to 511 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: Rome to plan the wedding, and I broke off the engagement. 512 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: It just things just didn't feel right. And I made 513 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: the right decision because she got married shortly after, has kids, 514 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: she's happy, and I think it was, you know, it 515 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: was better off doing it before things got completely out 516 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: of control with the engagement. So when I was on 517 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: the show, I knew she and her friends were watching. 518 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: I knew we were in a place that we were 519 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: supposed to get married, and I knew it was like 520 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: very hurtful. And I had this in my head the 521 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: whole time, and I'm like, I can't be I can't 522 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 3: do it. I got them like I can't, I can't 523 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: go through with this. It's you know, and I'm like, 524 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: I don't even really know these girls. I was there 525 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: for two months, you know, and I'm not gonna I'm 526 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: not sharing any secrets. Everyone knows this. You know, you're 527 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: filmed essentially the entire time, so you never really get 528 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: to understand what these people are like when they're not 529 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 3: on camera. You don't really You've never fought with these people. 530 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: These girls never met my friends. I never saw these 531 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: girls with other guys. Like what happens that they have 532 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: a couple of cocktails and they're you know, they hit 533 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: on every guy at a barrow. I don't know. All 534 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: I know is that I'm the center of attention. They're 535 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: excited to see me, but I haven't experienced anything real 536 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: with them, and I'm about to propose and then also 537 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: really hurt the person that I was in love with, 538 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: you know, prior to this, and I couldn't do it. 539 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. And then I had another ex 540 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: girlfriend that I dated through high school, throughout my entire 541 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: college for nine years, my first like real girlfriend who 542 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: I was still talking to, you know, and you know, 543 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 3: I was still like in love with her, and I 544 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: know she like loved me, and I was like, I can't, 545 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: I can't hurt. I can't do this in front of 546 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: in front of them, you know. And I didn't know 547 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: that before I left, but you know, probably six weeks 548 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: into it, I was really you know, I couldn't sleep. 549 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: I just I didn't feel right. And you know, unless 550 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: I really was one hundred percent positive that this was 551 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: my true love on the show, which is very hard 552 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: to do because again, you know, they don't really know me. 553 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: They're not with me in my in my everyday work 554 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: life in New York City that you know, they've they've 555 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: just experienced this vacation for two months where everything's paid 556 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: for and there's there's nothing to argue about. So I 557 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: didn't think it was worth hurting the people that I 558 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: really truly cared for before the show just for a 559 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: TV show to propose when I wasn't sure. 560 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: It seems like you never got wrapped up in the 561 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: bachelor bubble. 562 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: I I I, you know, I didn't really. I saw 563 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: maybe two two shows, not series, but two Batchelor episodes 564 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: before saying yes. And you know, I say, everything happens 565 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: for a reason. And and it was by coincidence too. 566 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: After my breakup of my engagement, I was I always 567 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: had a girlfriend, like ever since high school, and I 568 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: was all of a sudden, I didn't have a girlfriend. 569 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: And I was, you know, working on my own in 570 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: New York City. I didn't have an office. I worked 571 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: out of my apartment, and I was like, I'm sort 572 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: of lonely. And I went out and I was like, oh, 573 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: just and I had two tickets. I've told this story before, 574 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: but I had two tickets to go see Billy Joel 575 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: at Madison Square Garden and they were like third row 576 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: center on the floor. I was like, I'm gonna go 577 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: to this party that I was invited to and I'll 578 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: find a girl on invited to go see Billy Joel. 579 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: I go to this party and ask maybe ten girls, 580 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: hey what are you doing? Like you know, I'm like, 581 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 3: I'm Lorenz and I to meet you. I've got an 582 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: extra going to go see Billy Joe. You want to go? 583 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: And I turned down ten times. Nobody would say yes 584 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: to me. Then I went to my friend. I'm like, hey, 585 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: you want to come see Billy Joel with me? He's 586 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: like you me and the piano. Man, No, man, I'm 587 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: not going with you. I was like, all right, whatever. 588 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: I went by myself and I go to mass Madison 589 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: Square Gard who was in the middle of the wintertime. 590 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: And I go to my seats and there's two chairs 591 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: and they both have these jackets on them from the 592 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: people sitting to the side of the chairs. And I've 593 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: got two beers in my hand, and the person who's 594 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: jackets they were takes both jackets off off the chairs. 595 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no, you can. You can keep the 596 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: jackets on one chair, Like aren't these both your tickets? 597 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: And I said yeah, Like did you come with anybody? 598 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: And I said no, and I'm watching Billy Joel. I'm like, 599 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: I am such a loser, Like I'm at this concert 600 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: by myself, Like, how is this possible. 601 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how it's possible that nobody agreed to 602 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: you to go to Billy Joel. It wasn't like you 603 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: asked to go to like weird thing. 604 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: It was a billion masterve square guard. I know you 605 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: don't know me, but come on, you don't have to 606 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: talk to me. Just watch a pano Man play, you know. 607 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: And I told myself during this concert, if anything comes 608 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: my way, I'm taking it. And sure enough, like two 609 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: weeks later, I get that call. But I forgot one 610 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: of them was important part of the stories. Prior to 611 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: that Billy Joel concert, I was dating this girl that 612 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: lived in my in my building. But i'd been lowly 613 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: before then when my engagement broke up, and then I 614 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: started dating this girl and it was like for a month, 615 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: and I had tickets to go see the Rolling Stones, 616 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: like really good tickets to the Rolling Stones. I go 617 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: to her apartment and she's watching The Bachelor. I'm like, oh, 618 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: this show is still on and she's like yeah, And 619 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: I guess it was a rerun because the show was 620 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: at eight, so she must have been she must have 621 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: recorded or something, and she goes, it's almost over. Let's 622 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: just wait till it's over. I'm like all right, So 623 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: that show ends, we go see the Rolling Stones and 624 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: she's like blowing me off the entire time, and after 625 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: the constut like, what's wrong with you? Like, we just 626 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: want to go see the Rolling Stones? You want a 627 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: bad mood the whole time. She goes, yeah, you know 628 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: what're you're moving? And I was moving that following week 629 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: out of the apartment into another one, and she says, 630 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: I'm Jewish, you're Catholic. I don't see this going anywhere, 631 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: so you know, and now that you're out of the building, 632 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: there's no reason to continue. I was like, all right, 633 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: you could have told me that before the concert. I 634 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: would have maybe brought somebody else that I would have 635 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: had fun with. You just broke up with me after 636 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: the Rolling Stones. So then I go to the Billy 637 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Joe concert by myself. I get a call two weeks 638 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: later to be interviewed for a show that my ex 639 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: girlfriend was obsessed with. I'm like, hell, why not, right? 640 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: And I never told her that I got picked, and 641 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: then she found out and text me said, I just 642 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: heard your night. You're the next Bachelor's that truly? I'm like, yeah, 643 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed my season. 644 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're a better man than me, Lorenzo, 645 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: because when people ten women would say no to going 646 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: to the Billy Jewel concert with me, that's when I 647 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: would start introducing myself as Prince Benjamin Higgins. You should 648 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: want to hang out with me because I've got a title, Lorenzo. 649 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: As we close up here, though, I do want to 650 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: give you a moment to tell all of us why 651 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: your now fiance is so perfect for you after two 652 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: years of dating. As you said at your mom's eightieth 653 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: birthday celebration with twenty plus family members there, you did propose, 654 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: she did say, yes, you're getting married in June. Why 655 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: was she the right partner for you now for the 656 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: rest of your life. 657 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: Well, I'll start by this. I say it's my first marriage, 658 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: and I go right to my second. I've learned a 659 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 3: lot in my life. I've been in many different relationships, 660 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: and you learned something from each one, and I never 661 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: regret anyone I've had a relationship with. I think it 662 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: makes you stronger. I think you learn a lot, and 663 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: most importantly, you learn what you love and what you 664 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: don't love of a person. And when I met Dasha, 665 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't wasn't love at first sight or 666 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: anything like that. It was I think she's a very 667 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: pretty girl. But when I got to know her is 668 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: when it really app And first, first of all, she's 669 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 3: a huge animal lover. I'm a huge animal lover. You know, 670 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: the worse off a dog is, the more she wants it. 671 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: We have one dog with two legs, there's another one 672 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: with one eye and no jaw. We just took another 673 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: one in that has been in a crate for an 674 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: entire year and just goes around in circles. She's a 675 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 3: she's a huge dog lover and an animal lover, and 676 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: she understands me, and you know, we don't. We fight, 677 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: but it's it's so seldom and it's not like a 678 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: real fight, you know, like you've got those really angry fights, 679 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: and I've had a lot of them with my with 680 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: my exes where you really don't want to see him again. 681 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: Our fights are are pretty stupid and we make up 682 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: right away. But she is like the nicest person inside 683 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: and out that. 684 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: You can meet That was it you mentioned early your 685 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: future kids and that she's younger than you. What's your 686 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: timeline for. 687 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: Kids, assuming I can have them? 688 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, no, my timeline. 689 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: Is probably you know, after get married a year forty three, 690 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: fifty four. It's a good time. I still have I 691 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: can still throw a baseball and football and run around, 692 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 3: and you know girls play sports too, so I figure 693 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: by the time I'm fifty five, I'll have children. 694 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 4: It's an exciting chapter for you. Lorenzo. Thank you for 695 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: giving up the time. 696 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: I know you don't do a lot today when it 697 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: comes to the Bachelor world, but we appreciate you coming 698 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous podcast during our countdown to this 699 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: next season interviewing past bachelor's. You are one of the 700 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: most recognizable seasons of all time, and we appreciate you 701 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: doing this. 702 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 4: Interview with us. 703 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: Congratulations again on the age. That's an amazing chapter and 704 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: we look forward to hopefully you sharing some photos in 705 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: June from this incredible villa in Italy where everything comes 706 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: full circle. 707 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: Lorenzo, thank you, Thank you both, and I wish you 708 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: all of great New Year's and I will definitely be 709 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 3: posting some pictures from the wedding. All you guys can 710 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: save cheers. 711 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 2: Have a great year, Lorenzo, you're correct, by the way, 712 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: Apple does not have your season. 713 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 3: Now, there you go, there you go, right all right by, 714 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: all right, see you later. 715 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 4: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 716 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.