WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Offense vs Defense 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:17.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:22.439 Lounge broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:28.120 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray and New. He scrugs, 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.960 all right, baby, it's Friday. That means it's time for 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.919 the Players Lounge, and we have got content and topics 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.400 to speak of. I'm New, he scugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.120 joined by Barry Church. He's the player of the players louge. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.280 Our boy, Danny mccraige, still having the time. The number 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.720 forty two, Bury Church here in the building. Church, how 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.360 are you doing? O man? Good many They put it right, man, 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.960 the real forty two. All right, I want to hear 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.520 all this stuff about, you know, forty two going here, 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.880 forty two going there? The real forty two be Church, man. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.520 We here, we here on the Player's Lounge. Man, where 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.199 else would you rather be? It's Friday, it's a great 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.160 day outside. It might even hit the links a little 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.080 bit later, so it's a good day. It's a good day, 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.880 hey man. I hope that pollen doesn't get te out 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.120 there trying to play that golf man. I mean, that's man. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.160 You ain't wicked. It's wicked out there, man, so you 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.720 gotta get some. It might be it might be the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.600 worst it's business. I've been in Texas, been here about 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.920 eleven years now, and this is the worst. Man, this 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.560 is the worst it's been in a long time for me. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.000 It's a challenge, man, It's a challenge for a lot 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.760 of people. And it's only gonna get worse. It's the 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.720 only gonna get worse here, all right, lots of topics 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:45.480 to get to. We'll talk about why fans are not 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:51.800 excited about the possibility of drafting Patrick's utank Patrick's Rutan 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.480 at ten could be there, but a lot of people 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.560 aren't into what. In my opinion, Barry, people have been 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:04.480 trained by the Hall of Fame owner to love and 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:09.920 concentrate on offense at all times. That's a problem in 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.959 my opinion. I go, I go back to Super Bowl 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.200 twenty seven when they had the triplets, okay, and the 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.040 triplets being quarterback Troy Aikman, wide receiver Michael We're gonna 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.239 running back Emmy Smith and those guys were fantastic and 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.480 Jay Nova checks the tighten and fantastic and the offensive 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.280 line was fantastic. But people forget the Dallas Cowboys had 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.760 the number one defense in the National Football League. Okay, 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.680 with the number one defense, the Cowboys have won five 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.720 Super Bowls in their history and they have had a 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.560 dog gune good defense for every single one of them. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.280 First Super Bowl the Cowboys ever won twenty four to 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.200 three over the Miami Dolphins, who ended up the next 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.240 season have an undefeated year, and then the next season 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:47.799 after that one a Super Bowl and they held them 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.440 without a touchdown. The Cowboys Super Bowl twelve team the 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:56.799 second championship by Tom Landry. They recorded eight eight turnovers 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.360 in Super Bowl twelve, very eight and it was broken. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.200 It was broken by nine turnovers by Jimmy Johnson's first 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.160 Super Bowl team that had the number one defensive the league. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:07.920 They had nine against the Buffalo Bills when they be 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.919 in twenty two to seventeen. So defense has always been 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.240 a priority, even something that the Cowboys have excelled at. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.560 Jimmy Johnson was a defensive football coach. Tom Landry was 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.440 a defensive football coach. But for some reason, people have 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.519 fall in love with offense. And I find it surprising 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.720 that the Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, according to Chris Wartinson 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:31.520 of ESPN, is intrigued by tight end Kyle Pitts of Florida. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:38.120 When you heard that, man, man, I knew this was coming. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.920 I knew it was coming, and I gotta think my 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.560 boy and date Big Nate who who I do the 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.880 pre and post game shows with Nate Newton, big Dog. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:46.760 He was like, you know, it was part of all 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.640 those Super Bowl championship teams. But he told me this 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.160 when I started doing this about two years ago. He 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.520 told me, no matter how bad the defense is, how bad, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.040 they strong and the fans say, we need defense, we 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.600 need defensive help, we need to get it, no matter 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.760 how bad it is. The closer you get to the draft, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.800 the less you'll hear about defense and whoever the star 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.600 offensive player is at the time, you'll hear this Cowboys 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.440 nations saying we need to grab it, we need to 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.240 grab him. Look to me, I understand the intrigue for 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.520 this guy, I mean, cow Pitts. If what they say 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.159 about him is correct, he's a once in a generation 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.599 type player at the tight end wide receiver. I'm gonna 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.839 just call him an offensive weapon because I don't see 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.039 him as an every down tight end in line tight end, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.400 so I'm gonna call him an offensive weapon. But from 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.440 what they say, this guy is a mismatched nightmare. He 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.800 has the long wickets, he has a long arm, so 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.680 his catch radius is unbelievable. He can outrun guys at 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.400 the safety position, nickel position, and definitely linebacker position after 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.800 we saw what he did in his forty times. So 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.680 this guy, I can understand the intrigue this guy can be. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.600 You know that that Megatron type weapon to your offense, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.680 But for me, we don't have that luxury. We have 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.640 and we have one of the worst defenses, not even 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.480 out of the season last year, but in NFL history 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.240 last year, and all we're gonna do if we don't 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.640 address this and we keep kicking the can down down 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.320 the field, we're gonna continue chasing teams. All teams are 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.000 gonna be able to put up thirty on us, even 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.520 though we may be able to put up twenty eight 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.080 a game. We're gonna be chasing teams every single game. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.320 So I understand the intrigue about this guy, But to me, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.359 we need so much more help other places that we 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.600 don't have the luxury of drafting a guy is the 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.040 best at his position or whatever it may be. Plus 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.240 we have so many offensive weapons already. I mean, look 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.480 who we have on the outside. We got Cooper, we 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.280 got Gala, we got Cdee Lamb, who emerged as one 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.480 of the better slot receivers in the league after just 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.359 his rookie campaign. And at the tight end position alone, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.159 we had Dalton Schultz, who was able to have somewhat 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.520 of a breakout season with the injury of Blake Jarwin. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.440 We have him coming back from a torn acl after 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.280 we paid him twenty four million. So I just don't 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.000 understand the stockpiling at that position, at tight end position. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.200 I don't think he's a guy that's gonna just just 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.360 take over the league like I mean, I understand he 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.440 has this unbelievable time, but I don't think he's gonna 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.719 take over the league like that. And I just think 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.159 we need so much more help on the defensive side 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.000 of the ball that we gotta address it. We can't 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.280 kick it down the field anymore. We can address it. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.720 We can get some help for the offensive line or 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.360 something like that later on in the draft, But for me, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.719 I've got to address this defense. This defense has struggled 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.720 mighty league, and we need to address we can't kick 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.840 the We can't kick the can down the field anymore, Newvie. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.320 We just can't. All right, I'm gonna give you some 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:40.640 of the counterpoints to what you're saying. That Kyle Pitts 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:48.080 outside of the quarterbacks, will probably be the highest rated 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.320 player offensively or defense on the board. So based on 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.520 that that you're talking about taking the best potential player 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.400 in the draft. Oh, by the way, is what was 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.839 said about Randy Moss. Are you willing? Are you willing 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.720 to pass on some on a player? So many of 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.320 those who scout this game said this is the best 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.280 guy here. You could potentially get the best guy at ten. 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.400 Are you willing? I'm I'm willing to pass that up. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.640 If we had a average defense, if we even had 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.680 the middle of the road maybe let's just say seventeen 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.400 to twentieth ranked defense in the league, I would without 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.320 a doubt say, you know, we can get cow pits 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.040 because that defense, even though it's seventeenth or eighteen or 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.760 seventeenth or twentieth in the league, it can still hold 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.679 its own a little bit with that type of ranking. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.200 So I would say, you know what, let's go ahead 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.400 and get Cole Pits. But the defense, we tried it 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.040 out there last year, it was dead last almost I 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.920 mean almost a lot of the especially the rushing categories, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.080 it was dead last. So you're gonna tell me that 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.960 bringing in dan Quinn is just gonna make that team 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.840 go for that that that assembly of assemble of players, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.360 you're gonna make them go from dead last in the 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.360 league to a middle of the ranked team. I just 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.440 don't think the acquisition of dan Quinn is that huge 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.680 to this defense. I still think we need tools for 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.360 him to be successful as a decordinator, and we got 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.240 to get those tools in the draft. We weren't we 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.960 weren't able to go out there in free agency and 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.360 grab the tools we need for this defense. So to me, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.920 we got to get those tools in the draft. And 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.200 to me, it starts with a number ten with thirteen, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.480 and that's just that's just my opinion on it. I 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.120 understand Kyle Pitts is just, you know, could be just 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.960 watching a generational player. But to me, if you can't 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.760 stop the run and your teams can just pile up 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.120 points on them to pick your poison against you, Cole, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.280 Pitts ain't really gonna do much work for you, all right, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.040 So I'm gonna keep on just playing Devil's advocate, giving 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:44.800 you the other side. So you're okay, You're okay, passing 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.840 on from what could be potentially the highest rated player 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.200 in the drafted the Cowboys, sitting at ten. This is 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.600 the Player's Lodge party by hotels dot Com. You are 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:59.200 the play You were a safety. You see what this 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.240 young man, Kyle Pitts is able to do the corners. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.600 How would you have been able to guard a guy 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.760 like this? Would you consider him a guy that when 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.920 the game plan came out there sitting here talking, he 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.160 was a sayings like Church, you better worry about Pitts. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.280 Oh yeah, especially in the middle of the field. As 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.640 a safety, you kind of that's where you kind of 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.720 look for at the beginning of it. When you're breaking 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.520 down field, you look at the guys that are gonna 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.840 threaten the areas that you're in. And Kyle Pitts being 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.679 that big time or big slot or big tight end, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.600 whatever you want to call him, he's gonna threatened the 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.080 middle of the field. So for me, I personally, if 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.600 I was a decording, and I'm going to get a 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.280 guy that he's a mismatched nightmare like that. I wouldn't 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.640 just leave one guy on him. I'm not just like, Okay, Nickel, 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.240 you got him, or linebacker you got him, or safety, 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.320 you got him. I'm not putting one guy on him. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.080 I'm beating him up at the line of scrimmage with 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.679 one and then I'll have somebody over top trailing him. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.680 Now that you know that, that's where we need, you know, 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.640 corners on the outside to be able to hold their 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.920 own if you're putting that much emphasis on somebody on 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.880 the inside. But yeah, that's that's the type of defense 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.000 I would put on him. And I would also make 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.959 him have to prove it first. I mean, we're touting 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.199 this guy is the next Megatron. He's yet to play 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.440 a snapp in the National Football League, So for me, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.959 I gotta let him. Let him prove it first. But 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.920 if he's able to do that and his talent is 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.719 that's what they say there is, then that's how I 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.160 would defend him. I beat him up at the line 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.120 of scrimmage and I would let my d line do 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.960 work on that quarterback and hopefully he throws up some takeaways, 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.480 but overall, I got to see him do it first. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.520 I got to see him on the field do it first, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.760 and then we'll go from there. Okay, So so I'm 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.400 just just based on what you said. You're talking about 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.840 potentially having two guys deal with Pitts. So if you're 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.439 the Cowboys and you've got Pitts and Barry Church is 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.280 sitting here having to worry about him and another player, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.080 then I've got Ceedee Lamb out in a route. I've 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.520 got Amari Cooper out and a route. I've got Michael 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.960 Galla out and a route, and I've got a potential 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.720 of Ezekiel Ellie coming out of the backfield. How do 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.320 you defend that? You got, you got, you got all 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.360 those things you do. And I've never said not adding 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.959 him would make this this offense even stronger, even and 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.200 even have more capabilities out there. My worry is what 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.360 are you gonna do with your own defense? Zeb Real. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.520 We keep talking about this, you know, this offense putting 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.120 up this look at all these weapons and we get 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.000 to pass the ball around all these different weapons. But 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.760 then so does the offense come in again in the 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.920 face our defense. They can throw the ball all over 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.640 the place. They can run the ball over the place 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.280 because our defense was that poors. So do you want 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.600 to be in games you know, forty five to forty 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.800 thirty five to thirty twos. That's the type of games 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.840 you're gonna want to be in all season because that's 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.640 the type of route we're going in. We're going in 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.960 the greatest show on turf type route. And even though 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.360 that nineteen ninety nine Saint Louis team had the greatest 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.760 show on turf, they also had a top ten defense 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.679 to go along with that. So for me, I just 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.000 don't see the intrigue and this. I can see that all. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.040 Let me take that back. I can see the intrigue 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.760 and why they want to get him, but I just 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.280 don't think he can possibly help our team as much 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.960 as building a defense can, because we already got weapons 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.719 that are able to put up thirty points a game 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.640 with the guys you just mentioned. If we add him, yes, 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.480 that's a that's a that's an amazing plus. But to 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.520 our defense, we're doing a disservice to our defense, and 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.360 we're trotting them out there and they're gonna get exposed 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.120 each and every day. We have got to we have 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.760 got to go out there and we have got to 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.840 put some type of town something with this defense to 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.559 make it just the middle of the road. That way 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.240 we get to get the most out of this offense. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.120 In my opinion, I mean, do we want the greatest 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.480 show on Turfy? Well, I know offense sales tickets, but 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.280 do we want to win championships? And at the end 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.160 of the day, I think that's what the defense provides. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.440 Bucky Brooks and I had a Twitter I won't say debate, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.760 because we've just had different ideas and that's what it was. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.760 Different ideas. And then and Bucky has spoken about, Hey, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.240 if you're the Cowboys, why not build strength on strength? 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.440 And just when I asked you, hey, how would you 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.640 defend the Kyle Pitts, and you talked about using two 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.000 guys and then I just kind of gave out the 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.959 other blueprint. Okay, so now you got Cooper, You've got 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.760 Ceedee Lamb, You've got Gallup, You've got potential of having 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.760 a Zeke Ellie come out of backfield or running in 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.800 the middle. You know that you had these options. Here. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.240 I am with you, and I've been with you on 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.199 this whole thing about defense. Your defense is true. I 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.839 don't think people realize how bad it was last year 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.240 because they were six and ten team, and because Dak 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.360 Prescott got hurt, and then Mike McCarthy used a lot 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.680 of the COVID his excuses and the fact that his 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.800 coaches didn't get to work. There was a lot of 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.640 excuses throwing out there last year. When we talked about 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.600 the Cowboys being thirty first, there's only thirty two teams 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.520 in the league. They were thirty first. When it comes 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.160 to the run, second, second to last. The Cowboys gave 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:28.600 up one hundred and fifty nine yards a game running 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.679 the football. I don't think people have a true understanding 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.160 of how bad that is. That's bad, like nui, How 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.920 how can how can we get the ball back to 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.120 our offense with all these weapons and all these superstars 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.480 when other teams can just ride the clock all the 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.760 way down running one hundred and fifty some yards per 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.880 game against US. I mean, there was so many times 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.760 last year where we gave up three hundred yards rushing, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.480 Like three hundred yards rushing like teams can control the clock, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.840 they can do what they want against us to where 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.280 our offense we might only see, you know, four or 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.120 five possessions of a game. That's how bad our run 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.480 defense was, and people don't want to address it. It's 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.160 to me, it's it's it's mind bottling. It's a head scratcher. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.360 So so let me just also keep running down because 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.240 because we do a show every week and not everyone 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.200 catches it. But so I'll just if you've heard it before, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.480 I'm sorry, I'm gonna repeat it again. The Cowboys gave 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.440 a four hundred and seventy three points last year. They 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.640 gave up thirty four passing touchdowns. Okay, thirty four to 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.120 thirty four passing touchdowns, and that was the third most 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.240 in the National Football League. And this year, just talking 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.600 about some of the quarterbacks are going to face this year, Mary, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.040 they get Tom Brady in Tampa Bay, they get Kansas 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.560 City and Patrick Mahomes. They get Justin Herbert, the outstanding 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:48.119 rookie from the Chargers last year. You've got teams like Minnesota, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.000 it's Kirk Cousins, but Kirk Cousins has Adam feeling and 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.600 he's got Justin Jefferson. These are some of the folks 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.440 that are on the schedule. They faced Denver next year. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.760 They got two good receivers out there. You've got Washington, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.880 which is improving their football team. You've got dudes that 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.480 you stood up here and say they guys problems. Um, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.080 you got Carolina, who's got Robbie Anderson. They've got that 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.560 that quick kid they didn't take a couple of years 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:12.920 ago out of Maryland. DJ what's his name? DJ Moore? 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.240 You've got You've got dudes that they're gonna have to 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:17.960 go ahead and man up against and deal with. The 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.120 quarterbacks are gonna have to do it. This defense has 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.520 got its problems. Um Rick Goslin, Hall of Fame writer 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.760 had a call him out this week, and I sent 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.720 it to you in case are folks you didn't check 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.280 it out. It is open on my Twitter page at 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.120 newis Scrugs. It's an w Y Scruggs's n E w 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.880 Y Scruggs. But some of the highlights that Gosselon spoke about, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.600 he said, hey, look, the Cowboys get infatuated with offense. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.080 If fans want to talk about the offense, but he says, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.280 something you got to know about offense is in high 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.920 scoring offenses is it does not really lead to championship success. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.480 Since two thousand, nineteen offenses Barry have scored five hundred 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.080 points nineteen. Take a guess how many of the nineteen 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:04.240 they won the Super Bowl? Maybe one? Maybe one one 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.480 the two thousand and nine New Orleans Saints. Peyton Manning's 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.560 greatest year of football was in twenty thirteen, when he 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:19.240 threw a record fifty five touchdown passes. Denver scored six 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.720 hundred points. That's the only team in NFL history to 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.720 score six hundred points in the season. Peyton Manning and 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.160 the Broncos went to the Super Bowl. I was there. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.240 It was at MetLife Stage and Bruno Mars did the 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.320 halftime show with Sensation. And here was what I remember 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.960 about the halftime show of that game was the game 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.880 was over. I mean the game was over. They were 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:42.120 getting blowed out. They end up losing that football game 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.920 forty three to eight. Okay didn't We lost forty three 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.040 to eight. And this is with Peyton Manning having the 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.280 greatest football season he's ever had. I remember doing a 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.480 radio show for NBC Sports that that week with Bart Scott, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.200 and Bart Scott was like, yeah, man, you gotta go. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.040 You gotta go to general Man, you gotta go a 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.760 pet Manning. I was like, part man, give me the 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.360 d defense, And sure enough the defense went out there 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.400 and went whooping upside their head. That was Peyton Manning's 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.159 greatest You how about Tom Brady's greatest year of football? UM, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:15.560 two thousand and seven? Were you on that? Touchdowns? Oh? No, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.720 I wasn't. I wasn't part of that. Okay, okay, they came, 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.199 they came, They came here and put on a show. Um. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.480 But that was five hundred and eighty nine points that 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.080 that New England team scored that year. They went undefeated 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.920 in the regular season, went undefeated all the way to 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.920 the Super Bowl. And do you remember how many points 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.359 that New England offense scored in the Super Bowl against 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:48.200 the Giants fourteen fourteen, fourteen And and I bring these 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.240 up to go back to say what you were speaking 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:56.160 about here, which is, hey man, guess what these defenses matter? 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.640 And as many points as you score, we're not seeing 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:06.840 it ends late into championship trophies. You I don't even 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.280 know if you were born. Super Bowl eighteen back in 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.919 eighty three when Washington went and faced the LA Raiders 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.840 and Super Bowl eighteen in Tampa Bay. So that was 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.680 the year that Washington was coming off their win a 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.040 Super Bowl seventeen. They had the fun Bunch and they 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.520 had set then set the record for points in the 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.080 National Football League, well over five hundred. They go all 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:28.720 the way to the Super Bowl that it's heavy frame 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.960 it against the Raiders and they got obliterated. I want 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.560 to say it was thirty eight to nine was the final. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.720 I mean, they just got trash. And this was also 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.080 a Raider team. Washington had been earlier that year at 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.639 RFK Stadium, so you know it was bad. And I 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:49.320 look at what happened with Tampa and Kansas City. You know, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.959 Tampa took on Kansas City and Kansas City blew them 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.760 out in their own stadium earlier in the year. And 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.320 the Super Bowl, Man, it was, it was a It 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.440 was a beating by Tampa Bay against camp the City 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.159 and Kansas City didn't have two offensive starting tackles and 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.919 showed they got blown out despite all the great offense. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.640 So what you're saying, I'm backing up. And Tony Cassins, 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.040 the former great Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle part of a 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.000 couple of Super Bowl teams. Tony tweeted out this week, 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:15.919 hey man, Jerry, stop talking about this tight end. You went, 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.080 you won it with defense. So that's my argument back 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.760 to the fans and this whole play stuff. Hey man, look, 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.399 we can go out score these people. That's not the 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.000 strategy that wins championships. Now, if you want, you know, 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:33.400 a regular season division championship or just a playoff birth, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.639 then yeah, go ahead and load up your offenses. I mean, 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.240 offenses do well in the regular season, like you said, 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.399 Peyton Manny had the fifty five TV passes, Tom Brady 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.880 had the fifty touchdown passes that year. They do all 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.240 this great stuff, But when it comes down to that 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.359 butter time, when it comes down to getting things done, 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.160 if you have a hillacious defense out there, it's gonna 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.760 win every time. It's gonna win nine times out of ten. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.119