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Speaker 1: into a way of nurturing people. Right, how did you

427
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: How did you know? Well, I didn't have children. Um,

428
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: I got to know all of my clients. I knew

429
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: their likes, their dislikes. I knew I'm like, well, I

430
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: would make things from like what is your favorite? I

431
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: would go to your office and say, hey, what is

432
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: your favorite? And then when we had special meals on Fridays,

433
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: the next thing, I was making that favorite thing for them.

434
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it was lasagna, maybe it was a chicken pot pie,

435
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: maybe it was a cow zone. And when I made

436
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: cow zones, I was making the crust, I was making

437
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: the filling. And then I would and my my business

438
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: was highly illegal. I was clicking out of my house

439
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: and no permits. But um, it was amazing because you

440
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: did it. Hey, guys, do something illegal until it can

441
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: be legal. Um. But I mean that was also way

442
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: back in the day. Um. And it was so I

443
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: felt like this need to take care of my my

444
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: my clients and this community. And I primarily I was

445
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: working in d C in a black neighborhood. Um. I

446
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: started on Kennedy Street, door to door hair salis, barbershops, um,

447
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, doctor's offices, and then social services where they

448
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: would send me to another place and those people send

449
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: me to another place. UM. So it was this community

450
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: that I felt like I was the glue and connecting

451
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: all of these people and it was it was amazing.

452
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: And I think one time in particular, this woman wanted

453
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: to buy one of my dishes and I said, oh,

454
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna like it because you don't

455
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: like cilantro. And she looked at me and she said,

456
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: do you remember that. I'm like, of course I remember,

457
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: but I do think you would like this, right. So

458
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: it was all of that, like how someone felt when

459
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: they knew that I saw them mm hmm. It was

460
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: healing m yeah. Wow. Actually food is very healing in

461
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: the sense that um, it can be comforting in good

462
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: ways and on most ways, like food is comforting, like

463
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: when you needed you needed. I was sick, you know,

464
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: I had a cold, no no COVID, and I felt

465
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: like I was eating my way through it. And you

466
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: gotta say that now you can't just girl, you have

467
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: to say it. You cough. I've been coughing for decades

468
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: and people like, oh my god, you got coughd you

469
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: got covid. I've been coughing for peers. You can't. You

470
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: cannot cough on earth, and do not when I tell

471
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: you when I coughed, I know, I'm like, no covid.

472
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. But you can't even clear your throat

473
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: without somebody looking at you like you crazy. Let me

474
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: just tell you going off off on a tangent. So

475
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: I I try to maintain my health and stamina so

476
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: that I can run to a plane, a bus or whatever.

477
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean that that's my bar, right. I need to

478
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: be able to run to make a train. So when

479
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: I am running to make uh my Amtrak train, and

480
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I get there and I have exercise induced asthma because

481
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: I have been running and I'm getting their coffid and everything,

482
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: and I'm just looking at the person next n I'm like,

483
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm not Jeremy. It is um exercise induced to asthma

484
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: because I've been running for the train. Then I get

485
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: really chatting and they're just looking at me like shut

486
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: the hell up. But I huh, I well, first of all,

487
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: and now speaking, we're gonna stay on this tangent. You

488
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Speaker 1: have the recess, which I love that you just that

489
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: you do. I don't know if you still do that

490
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: every day at eleven am Eastern, because that, to me

491
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: seems very difficult to maintain, especially when you have a

492
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: work schedule. But I happen to watch a couple of them,

493
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: in one of which you were like, I gotta I

494
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: gotta work today here and makeup on a way. But

495
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: let me show you. I'm gonna put these hula hoops

496
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: down here and we're gonna hula hoop are weight and

497
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: just change your mood. Because you're right, exercise does, or

498
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: any kind of movement changes your mood, but the idea

499
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: or blown exercise could turn people off. So I get it.

500
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: So like by the way you inspired me, I was like,

501
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: maybe I just need a hula hoop, you know, because

502
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: my trainer good on mine. I don't feel like doing that.

503
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 1: When I see him, I'm like, I really don't want

504
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: to see you today. I really don't want to do this.

505
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: I don't, but I would love to. I'd be motivated

506
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: to get out of the house to Hulu because right back, right,

507
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: shake your booty, change your moody, that's what I was saying,

508
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: right I, but I love hula hoops. So during that time,

509
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: it was during the shutdown, uh huh, and I people

510
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: were really stressed out. I was stressed, you know, being

511
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: at home all my word like gone right. But I decided,

512
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, what did kids do when there in school

513
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: they have recess? I was like, let me grab my

514
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: hula hoop and then right the energy, changing the energy.

515
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: But then I started getting all of these kids toys

516
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: like the skip ball, bubbles, roller skates, you know, I

517
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: got a bouncy ball, right. I if I could be

518
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: somewhere and just body roll down the hill, Okay, I

519
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: realized I can't do that too much because I get sick.

520
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: You know that. You don't know what, but I would

521
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: do all of those things, and it was just amazing.

522
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: And one day I decided to grab my suitcases. I'm

523
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: not using I said, you guys, loads of suitcases up,

524
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: act like you're going somewhere. This is the exercise. Go

525
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: down the street, come back, you have your suitcase. It's like,

526
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, play by the way. That is so smart.

527
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: You just said bubbles. I'm like, Wh're gonna go by bubbles?

528
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: That would just change my mood if I could just

529
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: blow some bubbles during that. I you know, I don't

530
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: know if we understand how important it is just to

531
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: do those type of things. I'm starting to real eyes

532
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's just like so many messages

533
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people are stressed out. I know it's still

534
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: the shut not shutdown shutdown, but people are still stressed

535
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: the hell out, and those little things can change your mood.

536
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: We have to pay some bills, as we often do.

537
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: You can fast forward, as I often say, back on

538
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: the other side of the break. Every champion and care

539
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: every chappi is to be a champion, a champion and

540
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: carry chappion and carry chapiyon. A champion and carry chappion

541
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: and carry cheppis sports and then the same make and

542
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: make it work very Chappion and carry Chappi is to

543
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: be with Chappiana Champion. They carry Chappi and they Chappi

544
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: and they carry Champion and care with Chappi Sports and

545
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: in the same make and Naked, Hey, everybody, do you

546
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: guys know how to cook biscuits? Okay? I didn't think so.

547
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Carla Hall ultimately tells us the one thing she loves

548
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: to do is cook biscuits. Welcome back to Naked, I

549
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: go back you. Then you now have an audience. You

550
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: have this great business. People love you. They're coming to you.

551
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: We're back to Cookie And as I cleared my throat

552
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: getting over a cold, no covid um. You create a

553
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: business and to correct me if I'm wrong, alchemy catering

554
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: or caterers. Yeah, well now, yeah, that's right. So it

555
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: started out as the lunch basket because I literally put

556
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: all that food in a basket. And when they're like, oh,

557
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: you have a business, what's the name of it? Because

558
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: I didn't plan anything. I looked down, I see a basket, like, oh, so,

559
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: lunch basket, when are you coming back? I'm coming back tomorrow,

560
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm I've been improving all my life,

561
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: so I changed it to Alchemy Caterers because a friend

562
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: had said, Carla, you need a pet, a plant or something, um,

563
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: so you should like go and adopt a pet. So

564
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I went to adopt a cat. My life didn't support dogs,

565
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: but I went to adopt a cat, and I said,

566
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna name you Alchemy because apparently you're gonna change

567
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: my life. Um. And I had just read The Alchemists

568
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: by Coelo, and so I named my cat Alchemy, and

569
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: then I named I ended up naming my catering company

570
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: Alchemy because intuitively, I felt like I knew what people

571
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: wanted to eat, and I wanted I wanted to charge

572
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: that business with changing people by cooking with love for them.

573
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: M M. I love it now, named though we've because

574
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: it's a fisher. You're like, why give that away? It's

575
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: uh is it Alchemy by Carla hall or what is it?

576
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: So then I changed. I changed my business to Alchemy

577
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: by Carla Hall um, because you have a name and

578
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: it's a platform, and it makes it even more known.

579
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: I love exactly because it's the business of it now.

580
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: And what's so interesting when you say a name, you

581
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: are activating what the name means and so for me

582
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: that Alchemy by Carla Hall changes and now my company

583
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: is called Adventure Follows Limited because my six words of

584
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: advice to anybody say yes, adventure follows, then growth. Wait

585
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: say it again, say yes, adventure follows then growth. And

586
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: so you think about those three parts of your life.

587
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: So first of all, uh, if something comes to you,

588
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: whether whether it's an adventure or a lesson, you have

589
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: to say yes to it. By saying yes to it,

590
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: you go through it, you get to the other side

591
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: of it, and you will grow from it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

592
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: I love that, say yes. And that's with anything, workship, relationship, friendships,

593
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: man um. Too many downloads for me to date to

594
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: even process. I'm just taking it all in. I think

595
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: that I fell in love with you, love with you,

596
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: probably as America did, and I did not believe it

597
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: or not. I wasn't. I didn't watch any of the

598
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: Food Network shows. You had two seasons on Top Sholf.

599
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I did not watch those, but I knew

600
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: you from the chew um and being a television personality myself,

601
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: I liked. I was immediately drawn to you. You have

602
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: this thing and you've heard it before that makes you

603
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: just want to be your friend, and I want to

604
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: hang out with you. I don't even know what you're

605
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: talking about. I just want to hang out with you.

606
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I think I get that a lot. Um I think

607
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: is because, um, I'm being real. When you watch somebody

608
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: on television and I and I have to say, all

609
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: goes back to theater. It all goes back to me

610
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: feeling comfortable in my scan. And that didn't mean that

611
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I didn't go through awkward stages in my twenties. And

612
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I wasn't crazy at thirty, you know,

613
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: but every decade I become more of myself, um, where

614
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: the inside matches the outside. And and so I think

615
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that me and in the moment, I can I can

616
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: be silly, I can be quirky. I don't feel like

617
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: I have to be the cool chick. I don't have

618
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: to be the bushie chick. I don't have I don't

619
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: have to be I don't have the cool black girl. Yeah,

620
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: I didn't send any of that. Authenticity is a currency

621
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: that people don't employ enough. And I think we're starting

622
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: to realize that what that is what works Candidly, there

623
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: was a time I think I was watching the show

624
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: and there was, you know, and that could have been

625
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: me reading into it. This is the you on ABC.

626
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: It was on air from I believe, and it was,

627
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, wildly popular, and it made sense and it

628
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: fit with all the daytime shows and and the thing

629
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: about having a five day a week show, it's like

630
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna see You're gonna catch it eventually. If you

631
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: don't know about it, you'll catch onto it. You'll see it.

632
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: You'll be in the airport, you'll be at home, You'll

633
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: be flipping through the back at the doctor's office. Yeah back,

634
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: people watched me right at the doctor's office, and even

635
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, like that's what it is. But I felt

636
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: like I called one a few times. There was this

637
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: awkward moment. You may have not you, but there was

638
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: something going on in a guest or a co host

639
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: might have been. There might have been an awkward moment,

640
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: and you handled it, to me, um with so much

641
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: grace in class when someone could have fell into their

642
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: ego and didn't like it, you know what I mean,

643
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Like you were just so dismissive of it. And it

644
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: was such a lesson for me because at the time

645
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: and probably even still now, I would have I would

646
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: have responded with my ego and you didn't, and I

647
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: was I was impressed by that. And by the way,

648
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that's what you were doing, but

649
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: I just liked that you didn't even let it phase you.

650
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: And um, and then I realized, I was like, she

651
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even ego centric about it. Because people on TV

652
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: in any capacity, when I feel there an expert and

653
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: they have an audience and a following, and and you

654
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: listen to what people say on social media, you feel

655
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: something about yourself if you're being treated a certain way

656
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: on television. Um, and you were just very dismissive, and

657
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: I love that you're You're probably right. There were many

658
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: moments that I can recall where things like that happened.

659
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: And in the moment, Uh, I had a choice, you know,

660
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: if it was a guest, I know, I always wanted

661
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: them to feel welcomed, like you you have stepped into

662
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: my house, you know, so I will I will always.

663
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: I always want you to feel good here, you know,

664
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: even if you laugh and I'm like, oh my god,

665
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: what the hell is that? Right? But I would never

666
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: My duty as a host is to take care of

667
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: you in my house, and I would have always taken that.

668
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I would have always chosen that over my ego. What

669
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: a beautiful way, What a beautiful way to describe that.

670
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Because it is your home and you're welcoming someone into

671
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: your home the audience. Guess whoever feel comfortable. We're not

672
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: here to make you feel bad. Um, right I. I

673
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: then you watch it the chew you've all these. First

674
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: of all, your look is totally different. You're beautiful, you're tall,

675
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: you're very distinguished. It is it is obvious to see

676
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: who you are, right, um, physically and personality wise. And

677
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: I have to I have to imagine when you did

678
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Top Chef that you didn't think that that would turn

679
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: into a TV gig on ABC. Walk me through the

680
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: process of being on that show and what was it

681
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: like to be in front of the public and everyone

682
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: knowing who you are and commenting on everything you do,

683
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: and how you made them know the gumbo and if

684
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: they didn't like the gumbo and why he was a

685
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: fan favorite. Number five and number six, number seven, number eight.

686
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't watch Top Chef, y'all? All right? You know, uh,

687
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: we we know, we know that's okay. UM, So you

688
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: know interestingly enough, um, and you you said it, you

689
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: said it earlier. You know, the universe speaks like when

690
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: you're meant to do something, like everything in the universe

691
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: conspires too to make that thing happen. When it was

692
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: in two oh seven that I actually filmed Top Chef,

693
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: and I remember my um I was out. It was

694
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: a long day catering, and my sous chef came in

695
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: the next day and she said, oh, I had a

696
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: dream you were on Top Chef. I had just found

697
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: out about the show. I I started watching Top Chef

698
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: after season uh like season three, four and when they

699
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: were when they were getting ready to cast for season five. Um,

700
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: I had a long, busy catering season. I literally binge

701
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: watched all of Top Chef, you know how they how

702
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: they started playing and all the shows, and then I

703
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: started watching on the fourth season. So I go back

704
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: in and my my um suschef says, I had a

705
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: dream you were on Top Chefs. So that same day

706
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: I get home and there was a call to oh,

707
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: we're calling from Magical Elves and I was just like,

708
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: because I have I have jokes was as friends, you know. UM.

709
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna return

710
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: this call because they're they're just setting me up, and

711
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: but I had it on my cell phone and my

712
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: home phone, and so I called back and I was like, oh, hey,

713
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: what's up. And then they're like, oh, we're calling from

714
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: Magical As. I'm like, oh, you really are. And so

715
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: it's just so crazy because and then it was it

716
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: was I'm in an organization called it John Discoffier, which

717
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: is a a female organization of chefs and people in

718
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: the hospitality business. And the president had recommended me. So

719
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: I because they didn't remember her name, I had no

720
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: connection to who told them about me when I applied.

721
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: I went to this lady blind and said, Hey, would

722
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: you do right a a reference for me? She said,

723
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: of course, because I gave them your name. Had no idea.

724
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I went back to her. I

725
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: ended up going to see I a upstate New York

726
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: for this interview, and I was getting ready to go home.

727
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: My phone was dying. I was at the train station.

728
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: I was like, shoot, my phone is dying. Let me

729
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: call my husband right now to tell him. Look, I'm

730
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: probably I'm not gonna be able to call him. And

731
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I have a message. I'm at the

732
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: train station. I listened to my message. Hi Carla, this

733
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: is magically as we're calling back from the interview. Can

734
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: you come back for a second interview? This is after

735
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: I had my first interview. I am fifteen minutes from

736
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: getting on the train to go home. They want you

737
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: to come back today like they wanted me to come

738
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: back that day. Okay, Hey, do you imagine though the

739
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: train getting the mess like what me? So every thing

740
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: about that experience was conspired for me to be on

741
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: that show. Yea. And at the time I was forty four.

742
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize that I was one

743
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: of the oldest um because black don't crack and you

744
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: look amazing in your spirit is so young you can't

745
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: even I like maybe because I look I used to

746
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: wear silver hair all the time, and I'm like, yeah, okay,

747
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: I like it. You no one would know, No one

748
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: would know. And you say it's so boldly and proudly

749
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: in the world that tells you you're not supposed to.

750
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: This is what I love about you. Two. Oh yeah,

751
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm always telling people. I mean, now I'm eight, I'm

752
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: looking forward to sixty. What the wisdom even even though

753
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: possible my hair go gray, which it is not possible.

754
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: It is I okay, find a wrinkle, find something. I

755
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: feel sorry for y'all who not got no melanin in

756
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: y'all tone, like I am sorry, I am sorry, y'all

757
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: mad at us, I'm sorry. We stay fine and we

758
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: are well, could you fine? Go on? I'm sorry, Thank

759
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: you girl, thank you are fine, thank you. But but no,

760
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: it's um so so I'm going through all of that

761
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: when I am on top chef, because I was a caterer,

762
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: because I was older, I was I was not taken seriously.

763
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Every time I would win and I'd come like, oh

764
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: my god, I would and they would look at me

765
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: like what the hell and how did that happen? So

766
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I felt that I'm very intuitive. I felt that um

767
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times I felt like I was the

768
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: odd person out. And I remember telling my friend um

769
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Arian Dwarte, I said, you know, she was like, oh

770
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm on the bottom. And I said, when

771
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you're on the top, you get feedback from the judges.

772
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: When you're on the bottom, you get feedback from the judges.

773
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: When you're in the middle, you get nothing. So be

774
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: grateful for the top or the bottom because you get

775
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: something out of that. Correct, be grateful for the top

776
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: or the bottom, because you're gonna get something out of

777
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: it when you just mediocre and like nobody's paying attention

778
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: and you're right there in the middle. Oh boy, wow

779
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: wow wow again writing this down, guys, hope you guys

780
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: are too in my mind mental note. So then you

781
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: go on and they bring me back because you were

782
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: a fan. Whether you were a fan favorite in their

783
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: mind or not, they bring you back. They asked me

784
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: three times to come back, and I said no. My

785
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: PR company at the time was saying, Carla, don't do it.

786
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: You've been working hard to try to establish your own brand,

787
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: separate from the top chef brand. We suggest you don't

788
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: do it. And they even said what if you get

789
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: kicked off? First, it was like wait that I didn't like,

790
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. Sorry, you got me, You got

791
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: me all the way aft up. Yeah, okay, go on, No,

792
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: but that was a challenge and it was at that point,

793
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: so so that was a challenge. But but you know,

794
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: it needles in your head. And then um, one of

795
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: the producers said to me, Um, what if you made

796
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: it part of your plan. Now, a lot of chefs

797
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: go on because they have restaurants they want to be,

798
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, on the show that it's a publicity thing.

799
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was never that for me. It was

800
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: a personal challenge because I'm competitive, that's what I do. UM.

801
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: So this time I didn't want to cater anymore. I

802
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: had Alchemy catering and I was like, oh my gosh,

803
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to cater anymore. And I said to him,

804
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I said okay, because I wanted to get out of catering.

805
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I had a really toxic and bad

806
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: UM partnership that I that I got into because I

807
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: needed UM. I needed stability with the catering. I needed

808
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: somebody to help me with the infrastructure. So I said

809
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: yes to a partnership that I shouldn't have said yes to.

810
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: Now I wanted to get out of it, right, So

811
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: all of that was happening. The thing that people don't

812
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: realize when you do these shows and people know you

813
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: and everybody's coming to your little spot to like get

814
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: a piece of you, it changes how that business runs.

815
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: When you're in a restaurant, it made be different. If

816
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: it's a big restaurant. If it's a small restaurant, it

817
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: generally ruins that restaurant. The number of people, what you

818
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: can take on, how many people are standing in line,

819
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: it changes the face of that restaurant. And that's what

820
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: happened to my catering company. And so I really wanted

821
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: to say I don't care anymore, okay, But I was like,

822
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: what do I want to do? And that's when I said,

823
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: you know what, I think I'm gonna have a cookie company.

824
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: And that's when I did Alchemy by Carla Hall. It

825
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: was more cookies and desserts. I had these tiny cookies

826
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: that were the size of sugar cubes. Um. But it

827
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: was stupid because nobody knew they were cookies, so they

828
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: still thought I catered and that so that that that

829
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't thought out. But but you know, so I

830
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: was doing that and then they would go and get

831
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: you to the where you needed to be exactly to

832
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: the next thing again still on the bridge or back

833
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: on another bridge, right um. And so so I did

834
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: that and then I got sort of too the finale

835
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: where there are many chefs, but I got kicked off.

836
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: But then that was the show that they voted me

837
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: as fan favorite. It's because I was fan favorite and

838
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: this and I want to go back and say a

839
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: lot of people will even tell me this now. They're like,

840
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: you were robbed, you were robbed. It wasn't, but I

841
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: wasn't because if I had one Top Chef and oh eight,

842
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have whatever it was it oh eight. Yeah,

843
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been back on that show. In eleven

844
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: was when they were looking for people from the CHEW.

845
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: Because I won fan Favorite, I was on their radar,

846
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: and that's when I talked to the people about how

847
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: everything happens the way it's supposed to happen. Absolutely, you

848
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: may not even know it. Everything happens for a reason.

849
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: But I also believe that every lesson has a name.

850
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: So you see those people that you are angry with,

851
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: you're angry with that person, don't be angry at the person.

852
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: It's the lesson that's going to teach you to get

853
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: you to the next place. It is a lesson with

854
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: a name. Every relationship you had, every job that didn't

855
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: turn out, every time boss that failed you, that you

856
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: think failed you, If you would allow to accept that lesson,

857
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: you will learn something for the next thing. If you don't.

858
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: If you're in denial, you keep yourself in that place

859
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: just saying all of it. You're saying all the things. Now,

860
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me, how do I look at my

861
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend? That is what the end in my I'm

862
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: not like, I'm going to give you all lessons because

863
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I know the lessons, but I gotta give you, like

864
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: the lesson, the real lesson what I've learned from that.

865
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: That is so amazingly smart. Um, And it's also a

866
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: beautiful way to to make peace with what did and

867
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: did not happen in your life and allowing and allowing

868
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: that to teach you more. Um. I'm here for all.

869
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm here for the learning and the journey. But I'm

870
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna tell you so when I got the too, so

871
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: they didn't pick me initially, so the producers did not

872
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: pick me. There were five other people. Daphne Oz was

873
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: the only original member of the two the only original

874
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: member they decided to come back. After a year of

875
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: testing that show and work shopping it that came back

876
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: and they brought in for twenty minutes. It was. It

877
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: was Daphne, Clinton, Michael, and Mario. The five of us

878
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: were together for only twenty minutes. The next day they

879
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: announced us as the cast. That deal went fast, it

880
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: was it was crazy. The same day they announced that

881
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: you was the same day that I had um gone

882
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: for a um my my book, My first cookbook was

883
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: being auctioned. So they're like, oh my gosh, she's gonna

884
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: beyond the two. So that meant I got I got

885
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: a good deal, right, I mean, all of that came

886
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: down to that one moment. It was amazing. Actually six

887
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: days later. Yeah, and you have several books. Um, you

888
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: guys have to check them all out. I want on Amazon.

889
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: I did all my full research. The latest I believe

890
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: is a children's book. Actually Payton did the search, thank you,

891
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: peyton Um. And then there's a children's book. Um, it's

892
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: Carla and the corn Bread Christmas Carla and the Christmas

893
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: corn Bread. Yes, and I love that the idea of

894
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: because now it's time, right, you're an an author. Now

895
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: it's time for the you know, we have to talk

896
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: about the Christmas corn bread. Um. If if someone's looking

897
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: to get that for their child, what is the what

898
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: is the lesson? What is the lesson with that children's book?

899
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: I think for this book, it's the power of intergenerational

900
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: clicking together, a child clicking with a grandparent and carrying on,

901
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: especially in the black community, in any community. You don't

902
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: have to be Black to understand this, this concept to

903
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: cook with a grandparent. That is how the stories and

904
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: your culture are passed down from generation to generation. Having

905
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: all of those stories and the sensory and taste. It

906
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: is not the written recipes, it's the recipes that are

907
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: stored in all of your senses. That is how your

908
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: culture is passed down. And so I love I love

909
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: corn bread. My grandmother made the best corn bread for me,

910
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: and she never made it until we were on the

911
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: inside of the door and just remembering all of that.

912
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: But when I was working with the illustrator Charise, she's

913
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: looking at the book and she's like, Okay, I go

914
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: to bed and she's like, hey, can I ask you

915
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: did you wear for rollers in your hair before a

916
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: big like of holiday or something like, oh my gosh, yes,

917
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: I did write roller in the bangs, roller in my

918
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: like pigtails. And and I'm bringing that up because this woman, um,

919
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: she's from um Bermuda and um, but we share we

920
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: had that common thread as a as a black woman

921
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: and pulling out those threads and she only has the manuscript.

922
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: There are no pictures that she is creating these pictures

923
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: and we're going back and forth. That is the power

924
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: of culture and it is not to be underrea cutimated.

925
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: And let me tell you there's nothing like bonding over culture.

926
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: And again this is for any culture. I could have

927
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: a conversational one. I'm immediately connected when you say that.

928
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: You say rollers and I'm like, oh yeah, my mom

929
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: us to put a roller right here until I can

930
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: figure out how to do my own hair and burn

931
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: it out myself. And then and she by, by the way,

932
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: my mom still rolls her hair, like I don't know girl.

933
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm all like, mom, how are you still rolling your

934
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that. I'm like, the process

935
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: is too much work at the part role part, I'm like,

936
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: good luck with that. But um, the connection that you

937
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: have transcends culture, right because everyone feels connected to you.

938
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: Cooking is very powerful. But it's such um for me.

939
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: It's so obvious to see that that is the conduit

940
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: in which you have been given to reach people. But

941
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: it's more about I think, UM, do your spirit like

942
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: you're a gift. You walk into a room, you sit down,

943
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: you talk to people. You're a gift and you give

944
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: that whatever that can be. Because I'm I'm inspired not

945
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: to cook, but just inspired by your personality. It lightened

946
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: my day, you know what I mean. So when you

947
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: when you think of how God works for people like I'm, yeah,

948
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this talent, but it really is

949
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: to give something else back. So that's wonderful, you know

950
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: when you say that. So when I got the two

951
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: and I was blown away. Um. You know, here I am.

952
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: I was on a competition show as a chef, um,

953
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, here I am thrown into

954
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: a show on national television, um by in one of

955
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: the big networks. And I went to her friend and

956
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: I said, what do I do with this? I mean, like,

957
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: what do I do with this? And she said, um,

958
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: your prayer every day should be authenticity because that says

959
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: more to the audience and anything. UM, And I knew

960
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: that at that point, I also had to give back

961
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the responsibility of having this platform, which I think a

962
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: lot of young people don't take seriously. They're like, well,

963
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: that's not my child. I don't have anything to do

964
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: with that child. But when you are on national television.

965
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: That platform speaks volumes and it goes to places and

966
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: you don't know where it goes. And so when people

967
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: come up to me and said, my children really like you. Um,

968
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: my grandmother watched you every day. I was watching your

969
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: show and we were in the hospital with my grandmother

970
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: and that was the one thing that we did together.

971
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: That set speaks volumes to me. And so I own

972
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: that responsibility. Yeah, so I I appreciate you saying that.

973
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You do and you own it. Well, yeah,

974
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So get the book. Guys, I'm

975
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to Carlo. I hate when I end

976
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: with a question of what do you have next? Is

977
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: there anything that we should be promoting? Because I have

978
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: been on I following your slides, You've been doing it.

979
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: You have a partnership I see most recently with Disney.

980
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: Talk to me about all the ways in which we

981
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: are making this bag get bigger and bigger. You can't.

982
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: I just tell you, Carrie. Let me just tell you.

983
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: My hustle muscle is very strong. And listen ha ha, Yes,

984
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: I need streams on streams on streams of revenue. People.

985
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: So my hustle muscle is very strong. I'm working on

986
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: a product line. I'll say more about that later. I

987
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: have to come back, um I did. I was recently

988
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: in at Disney to do something with Tiana and her

989
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: merchandise line that just came out. It's amazing, like this

990
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: culinary merchandise line. My deal is with Discovery and Food Network,

991
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: so you will see me on Halloween Baking Championship starting

992
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: in September, and then Holiday Baking Championship. I'm getting ready

993
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: to film um Holiday Baking Championship Gingerbread Edition, and then

994
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: in January, I have a new show coming out called

995
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Chasing Flavor and and it is my dream show. I

996
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: love that. I love that title. Yes, yes, and it

997
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: is a travelog show. And uh, not only am I

998
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: the host, but I'm also an EP on it, which

999
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: whoop whoop yah, yes, yes, yes, right, all the things

1000
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: and so um so that is really exciting. And the

1001
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: show is about taking a dish that is beloved by Americans.

1002
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily quintessentially American, but it is beloved by Americans.

1003
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: But we take it to a from a nuanced version

1004
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: and we trace it back on a path in history

1005
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: and and you know, food can go in different directions,

1006
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: so we choose a path so that we can give

1007
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: credit to the cultures who had a hand in that dish,

1008
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, you know, we remember the

1009
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: latest thing, but we don't know where that dish came from,

1010
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: and we sort of disk and erase all the cultures. Yeah,

1011
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: sing flavor? Wow, Okay, what no work you said? I mean,

1012
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, just oh my god, just say Disney. Sorry, Mickey,

1013
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: it's not you, It's not Discovery. Yes, yeah, Warner Discovery.

1014
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: What's the new name gonna be? Warner Discovery HBO? But

1015
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. But I'm glad they at least say,

1016
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: green lighting projects over there because they canceling everything. So

1017
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got your because I was at CNM

1018
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: plus with a whole show that they got rid of.

1019
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: So I just said, yes, okay. So with that being said, um,

1020
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: you are based where exactly? I am based in d C.

1021
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: But I'm in d C. I live in I live

1022
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: in d C, and um, yeah, in the D not

1023
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: the M, not the V, but in the D. I'm

1024
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: just saying, why does that establish when I can come

1025
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: over and have dinner? Because that this is I'm not.

1026
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: This is a selfish assid. This isn't about yeah, you know. Okay,

1027
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get your phone number when we get

1028
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: done recording, because I don't want my folks to call

1029
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: you talking about what's that recipe to the mac and

1030
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: cheese and a corn bread? No, let me tell you, okay, Carrie.

1031
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: First of all, it is my service to make biscuits

1032
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: with people. I do corn breath, but it is my service.

1033
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: I get. I will say. I I would walk up

1034
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: to strangers and say I do how to make a

1035
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: biscuit in New York City and go to their homes

1036
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: like I did it in San Francisco. I've I've I've

1037
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: helped restaurants make biscuits. I'm like, this biscuits is terrible.

1038
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: When can we get together? When when can I come

1039
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: and teach you all how to make biscuits? Because this

1040
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: right here, ain't it? Um? So yes, I will host you.

1041
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: We just redid our house so it's it's the main

1042
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: and beautiful and you can also see that my house

1043
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: on Discovery. So um oh, I love it. So let's

1044
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it from all hid angles, come

1045
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: and catch me everywhere. Yeah, are you are in your

1046
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: You're in your purpose and it is beautiful to see.

1047
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: And if anybody is listening as they are, you have

1048
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: to understand what it feels like, it looks like to

1049
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: be in your purpose. That's why you look amazing, sound amazing,

1050
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: and the energy is great. Like that's that is goals, right, Like,

1051
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: that is the goal of life, to be in your

1052
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: purpose and very be very well aware of it. Wow.

1053
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: And I think that the last thing I'm going to say.

1054
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: But it's not static. So I didn't stop it and

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Speaker 1: get upset with the two because I knew there was

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Speaker 1: more life. Like there's always a bridge between what you

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Speaker 1: had done and what you eventually wanted to do. What

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Speaker 1: you eventually want to do. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get into voiceover's I want to do acting.

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Speaker 1: I want to come back to acting now because that's

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Speaker 1: where I started. As it begins is how it ends.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. I'm a gossip girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a gossip Girls. Season to the Wants, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how are you forget that? All right? I forgot? Sorry? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's coming out in September. There's so much going on

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Speaker 1: in so many blessings, guys, I just forget all the

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Speaker 1: things that are happening. No, and I'm doing art. I

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Speaker 1: love paper culting, so I draw, I work with my

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Speaker 1: hands and so all of those things. I yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just so creative and I do it in different ways

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Speaker 1: or as you said, it will end with this that

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Speaker 1: hus a muscle is strong. Carla Hall, thank you, thank you, Carrie,

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Speaker 1: thank you paying for all that research. We use the

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Speaker 1: word a few times. I often hear it used in

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Speaker 1: the lexicon, and sometimes I think it's used inappropriately. But

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Speaker 1: the name of her business Alchemy by Carla Hall. So

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Speaker 1: my way of background, I just wanted to give this

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Speaker 1: to you, guys. Alchemy means something that is seemingly magical,

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Speaker 1: a process of transformation, creation, or combination. Using it in

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Speaker 1: a sentence, finding the person who's right for you requires

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Speaker 1: a very subtle alchemy. It's a magical process. And everything

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Speaker 1: about her journey from being a model to uh, let

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Speaker 1: me go back, from being an account to a model

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Speaker 1: to someone who was just making lunches for people, who

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Speaker 1: then created a catering business, who then heard from her

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Speaker 1: friend who said, Hey, I think you should be on

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Speaker 1: the show because it's pretty popular and she never watch

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Speaker 1: the show Shop Chef, but just days later got a

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Speaker 1: call about it. I mean, come on, that's alchemy. Just

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Speaker 1: be not even subtle. It's very obvious she is doing

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Speaker 1: what she has meant to do, so it makes sense

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Speaker 1: that she uses that word and understands that word. Um.

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Speaker 1: Everything in life takes a little bit of magic, and

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Speaker 1: I hope that you all feel that in your life

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Speaker 1: as well. Her usual pursue your dreams, chase that magic,

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Speaker 1: find that magic and just say yes. Carla Hall was

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Speaker 1: a gift today. Thank you for joining Naked. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back next week.