WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Red Summer 1919

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. In this week's episode about the Memphis massacre,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that massacre being part of a pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>While we mentioned some other similar massacres, we really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time on the pattern part. So

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<v Speaker 1>for today's Saturday Classic, we have chosen an episode that

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<v Speaker 1>does spend more time on that. It's our June third,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteenth episode on the Red Summer of nineteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. This year is the one hundredth anniversary of

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<v Speaker 1>the wave of racist violence in the United States that

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<v Speaker 1>came to be known as Red Summer. And we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this just a little bit in our twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>episode on the Harlem hell Fighters, but that was a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago, and it was just like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit in part three of the episode, not really enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do it justice. And honestly, it was a whole summer.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do an entire podcast just on this, but

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<v Speaker 1>with one hundred anniversary, it seemed like a good time

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<v Speaker 1>to return to it. In a lot of ways, the

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<v Speaker 1>violence of Red Summer was a response to two earlier

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes overlapping events, and those were the Great Migration

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<v Speaker 1>and the return of black soldiers who had fought in

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<v Speaker 1>World War One to the United States. And to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of these things caused Red Summer. Red Summer was

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<v Speaker 1>a backlash to them. These returning veterans and migrating families

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<v Speaker 1>were not to blame for what happened. But since this

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the historical context, today's episode is going

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<v Speaker 1>to start off with a little bit about those two

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<v Speaker 1>events before getting into the violence that stretch the summer

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<v Speaker 1>and fall. And in case it is not clear, this

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<v Speaker 1>episode includes a lot of violence, including sexual violence. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of it is just particularly horrifying in nature. The Great

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<v Speaker 1>Migration was a mass relocation of Black Americans out of

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<v Speaker 1>the South and into the cities in the north end Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>It peaked in the mid to late nineteen teens, but

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<v Speaker 1>the same pattern of migration continued for decades afterward. There

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<v Speaker 1>was also migration within the South from rural areas into

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<v Speaker 1>southern cities. Most of the people who were moving had

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<v Speaker 1>been sharecroppers, doing essentially the same work as their enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>ancestors had done, sometimes even on the same land and

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<v Speaker 1>for the same landowners. Sharecroppers rented the land that they

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<v Speaker 1>lived and worked on, and then they paid their rent

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<v Speaker 1>by giving a share of their crop to the landowner.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was almost impossible to make a decent living

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<v Speaker 1>as a sharecropper. Many sharecroppers were in debt to their landlords,

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<v Speaker 1>owing money for things like the tools and supplies that

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to do their jobs. Unscrupulous landlords could make

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<v Speaker 1>this situation much worse. But even if a person's landlord

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<v Speaker 1>was honest and fair, a sharecropper often earned a subsistence

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<v Speaker 1>level living at best. Sharecroppers faced the same threats to

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<v Speaker 1>their livelihoods as any other farmer did, including pests and

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<v Speaker 1>bad weather and fluctuating prices. The bowl weavil, which had

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<v Speaker 1>been introduced to the United States and the late eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>spread farther and farther into cotton territory in the nineteen teens,

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<v Speaker 1>destroying the crop as it went, and then in nineteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>widespread flooding affected many of the same areas that had

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<v Speaker 1>just been ravaged by weavils. As the Southern economy shifted

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<v Speaker 1>after the Civil War, white farmers had also been caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in this same system of sharecropping. It was exploitive

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of who was doing the farming, but the system

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<v Speaker 1>was stacked most heavily against black sharecroppers, who faced the

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<v Speaker 1>additional hardships of systemic discrimination in racism, including segregation, political oppression,

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<v Speaker 1>and racist violence. In the nineteen teens, black Southerners started

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about new opportunities and a potentially better life in

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<v Speaker 1>the North and the Midwest. This included jobs with better

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<v Speaker 1>wages and better educational opportunities for their children. People heard

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<v Speaker 1>about these opportunities through word of mouth from friends or

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<v Speaker 1>family who had already moved. Word also came through advertisements

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<v Speaker 1>placed by businesses and organizations that were hoping to attract

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<v Speaker 1>new workers to their area. After the United States entered

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<v Speaker 1>World War One, some of these jobs were specifically connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the war effort. Between nineteen fourteen and nineteen twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly five hundred thousand Black Americans left the South and

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<v Speaker 1>moved to urban areas elsewhere. In nineteen twenty, m at J.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott described it this way, quote, they were in the

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<v Speaker 1>frame of mind for leaving. They left as though they

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<v Speaker 1>were fleeing some curse. They were willing to make almost

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<v Speaker 1>any sacrifice to obtain a railroad ticket, and they left

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<v Speaker 1>with the intention of staying. This led to labor shortages

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<v Speaker 1>in the South, and sometimes entire communities were abandoned. That

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<v Speaker 1>also dramatically shifted the racial demographics of cities like Detroit, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, and Philadelphia. Will be returning to that shift

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<v Speaker 1>in just a bit. The United States became involved in

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<v Speaker 1>World War One as the Great Migration was happening. The

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<v Speaker 1>war directly affected the nation's black citizens as well. After

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<v Speaker 1>the United States declared war on Germany in nineteen seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>people were eager to enlist in the military. This included

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty thousand black men who volunteered in April

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<v Speaker 1>and early May. This actually presented a problem for the military,

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<v Speaker 1>though the Marines didn't accept black recruits at all. The

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<v Speaker 1>Navy and the Coastguard technically did, but only in menial roles.

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<v Speaker 1>So overwhelmingly black men were serving in the Army, which

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<v Speaker 1>at least in theory, accepted black men in most areas

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<v Speaker 1>of the service and practice, though the army was racially segregated,

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<v Speaker 1>with only a very few all black units in existence

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, So after the declaration of war on Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>the Army reached its quota for black recruits in just

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<v Speaker 1>about a week. In May of nineteen seventeen, Congress passed

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<v Speaker 1>the Selective Service Act, which required men regardless of race

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<v Speaker 1>to register for the draft. The Army began creating new

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<v Speaker 1>all black units and trained War one class of black

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<v Speaker 1>officers at Fort des Moines in May of nineteen seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>sending most black officer candidates after that point to train

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<v Speaker 1>at camps in Puerto Rico, the Philippines, Hawaii, or Panama. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>about three hundred and seventy thousand black men served in

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<v Speaker 1>the US Army in World War One. These men faced

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<v Speaker 1>persistent discrimination during their service. All Black units were often

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to menial work like digging trenches and unloading cargo

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<v Speaker 1>and removing unexploded ordnance. And while it's true that this

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<v Speaker 1>was all work that needed to be done and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it, disproportionately, the people doing the Army's hardest, dirtiest,

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<v Speaker 1>and most degrading work were black. Black soldiers also experienced

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<v Speaker 1>day to day harassment and discrimination throughout the war. There's

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<v Speaker 1>more about all this in that past episode about the

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<v Speaker 1>Harlem hell Fighters. Support for participation in the war wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>universal within the black community. One line of thought was

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<v Speaker 1>that it made no sense for people to put their

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<v Speaker 1>lives on the line for a country that at best

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<v Speaker 1>treated them as second class citizens. This was especially true

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<v Speaker 1>because the United States had framed its involvement in the

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<v Speaker 1>war as making the world safe for democracy, so it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed hypocritical to fight for a country that was refusing

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same within its own borders. But many

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights leaders and organizations really took the opposite stance,

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<v Speaker 1>arguing that this was a chance for black citizens to

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate to the rest of the nation that they were

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<v Speaker 1>human beings and patriots worthy of respect who were actively

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<v Speaker 1>making a positive contribution to the nation. The experience of

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<v Speaker 1>military service during the war motivated many of these soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>to actively fight for equal rights after they returned home. W. E. B.

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<v Speaker 1>Du Boys described it this way in the NAACP's magazine

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<v Speaker 1>The Crisis quote, we are returning from war the Crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>and tens of thousands of black men were drafted into

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<v Speaker 1>a great struggle for bleeding France and what she means

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<v Speaker 1>and has meant and will mean to us and humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>and against the threat of German race arrogance. We fought

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<v Speaker 1>gladly into the last drop of blood for America and

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<v Speaker 1>her highest ideals. We fought in far off hope. For

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant Southern oligarchy entrenched in Washington. We fought in

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<v Speaker 1>bitter resignation. And the sedatorial boys went on to describe

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<v Speaker 1>the United States as a shameful land, saying that it

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<v Speaker 1>lynches and disenfranchises its citizens, encourages ignorance, and steals from

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<v Speaker 1>and insults black citizens. He concluded by saying, quote, we return,

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<v Speaker 1>we return from fighting. We return fighting make way for democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>We saved it in France, and by the Great Jehovah,

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<v Speaker 1>we will save it in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Or know the reason why. James Weldon Johnson, who coined

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<v Speaker 1>the term red Summer, described it this way in his

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty three autobiography, quote, the colored people throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>country were disheartened and dismayed. The great majority had trustingly

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<v Speaker 1>felt that because they had cheerfully done their bit in

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<v Speaker 1>the life war, conditions for them would be better. The

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<v Speaker 1>reverse seemed to be true. Earlier civil rights advocacy had

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<v Speaker 1>tended toward a conciliatory approach, but after the war, Dubois

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<v Speaker 1>and other civil rights leaders were increasingly direct lobbying very

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively for equal rights legislation and for anti lynching laws.

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<v Speaker 1>This advocacy became part of what came to be known

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<v Speaker 1>as the New Negro movement, which was rooted in assertiveness

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<v Speaker 1>and confidence and was also connected to the Harlem Renaissance.

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<v Speaker 1>Membership in the NAACP really surged from about nine thousand

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<v Speaker 1>members before the war to one hundred thousand afterward. Compounding

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<v Speaker 1>that many of the people who moved from the South

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<v Speaker 1>did not find the North to be what they imagined

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<v Speaker 1>it to be. Many schools, neighborhoods, and public accommodations were

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<v Speaker 1>still segregated by custom, if not by law. Many industries

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<v Speaker 1>were closed to black workers, and many of the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that weren't involved manual labor or service work. Discrimination and

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<v Speaker 1>harassment may have been less overt in in some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were still there. All of this folded back

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<v Speaker 1>into that growing advocacy for equal rights and equal treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a whole system in which people who

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<v Speaker 1>had moved, or people who had come back from war,

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<v Speaker 1>or people who had done both of those things were

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<v Speaker 1>finding themselves still facing all of this discrimination. And then simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 1>people of all races in the United States were competing

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<v Speaker 1>for scarce jobs and housing. Immediately after the war, the

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<v Speaker 1>first Red Scare was going on, and that created a

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<v Speaker 1>climate of fear of communism and Bolshevism. Also, immediately after

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<v Speaker 1>the war, the nation was very nationalistic and xenophobic, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this together fed into this backlash that came

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<v Speaker 1>to be known as Red Summer. We'll start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how it unfolded after a sponsor break. The two main

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<v Speaker 1>hallmarks of Red Summer were lynching and mass violence against

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<v Speaker 1>whole communities of black residents, which were often described as

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<v Speaker 1>race riots. These weren't unique to nineteen nineteen. The same

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<v Speaker 1>types of violence happened before and after Red Summer, but

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<v Speaker 1>during that summer and fall of nineteen nineteen both were

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<v Speaker 1>really at a peak. And although the great migration that

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked about was from the South into urban

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the North and Midwest, these incidents happened all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country. However, details are hard to track down

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<v Speaker 1>for some of these incidents today. At the time, they

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<v Speaker 1>were often reported in both black and white newspapers, although

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<v Speaker 1>with completely different interpretations of the events. The NAACP and

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<v Speaker 1>other civil rights organizations also conducted investigations into as many

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<v Speaker 1>of them as they could, but often there was no

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<v Speaker 1>formal investigation by law enforcement and no official record of

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<v Speaker 1>what actually happened, especially when it came to mob violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Some communities conducted investigations later on or convene truth and

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<v Speaker 1>reconciliation commissions to document what happened and make recommendations for restitution.

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<v Speaker 1>But in cases where that didn't happen at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who remember the events have since died, so

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<v Speaker 1>many details are lost. So we're going to start with

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<v Speaker 1>this pattern of lynching. A lynching is an extra judicial

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<v Speaker 1>murder of someone who has been accused of a crime

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<v Speaker 1>or some other perceived wrongdoing. Anyone can be the victim

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<v Speaker 1>of lynching, although most often in the United States, lynching

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<v Speaker 1>victims have been members of a racial, ethnic, or religious minority.

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<v Speaker 1>In the United States, in the early twentieth century, most

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<v Speaker 1>victims of lynching were black Americans or white Americans who

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<v Speaker 1>had been working for civil rights. In nineteen nineteen, there

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<v Speaker 1>were eighty three recorded victims of lynching, at least eleven

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<v Speaker 1>of whom were veterans of World War One. That was

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<v Speaker 1>up from sixty four in nineteen eighteen. Victims of lynching

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<v Speaker 1>had often been accused of a crime against a white person,

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<v Speaker 1>especially a white woman. Sometimes a crime really had taken place,

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<v Speaker 1>but in other cases the allegations were completely fabricated. Regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of whether anyone had committed a crime, the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a crime was used as justification for murder. It was

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<v Speaker 1>often the idea of a white woman having been allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted by a black man, something we talked more about

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<v Speaker 1>in our two parter on the eighteen ninety eight Wilmington

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<v Speaker 1>Coup and one of Red Summer's first incidents, a black

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<v Speaker 1>man named Benny Richards allegedly shot his ex wife and

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<v Speaker 1>her sister on May second, nineteen nineteen. His ex wife died,

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<v Speaker 1>and Richards also allegedly wounded the sheriff and other white

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<v Speaker 1>men who arrived on the scene. We have to say allegedly,

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<v Speaker 1>because Richards was not brought to trial. Instead, a mob

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<v Speaker 1>of between one hundred and three hundred white men apprehended him,

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<v Speaker 1>in part by dumping gasoline into the swampy area surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>his home and setting fire to it to try to

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<v Speaker 1>drive him out. After they captured Richards, the mob hanged him,

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<v Speaker 1>shot his body, and set it on fire. This was

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<v Speaker 1>not a remotely isolated incident, and it was part of

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<v Speaker 1>a pattern in terms of what happened and how it

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<v Speaker 1>played out. On May fourteenth, in Vicksburg, Mississippi, a mob

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<v Speaker 1>of between eight hundred and one thousand people broke into

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<v Speaker 1>the jail and took twenty two year old Lloyd Clay

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<v Speaker 1>out of his cell. Clay had been accused of assaulting

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<v Speaker 1>a white woman named Mattie Hudson. She had been presented

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<v Speaker 1>with a lineup earlier in the day. In two different times,

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<v Speaker 1>she had said that Clay was not the man who

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted her, but after the mob removed him from his cell,

0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.600
<v Speaker 1>they asked her one more time to identify him as

0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.640
<v Speaker 1>her assailant, and she did. The mob poured oil over

0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Clay's head and hanged him over a bonfire while also

0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:51.080
<v Speaker 1>shooting him repeatedly. On May twenty fourth, seventy two year

0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.120
<v Speaker 1>old Berry Washington was in jail in Milan, Georgia. Two

0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.600
<v Speaker 1>white men had reportedly come into his neighborhood and tried

0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to assault to teenage els. Washington had tried to defend

0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.400
<v Speaker 1>them and had killed one of the men in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>A local Baptist minister led a mob of roughly one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred white men who abducted Washington from the jail, hanged him,

0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and shot him repeatedly. The mob then terrorized the area's

0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:22.320
<v Speaker 1>black residents and looted black owned businesses. On June seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>a white mob in Longview, Texas, murdered Lemuel Walters. According

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<v Speaker 1>to reports in white newspapers, he had robbed the home

0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of a white woman and assaulted her, but according to

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<v Speaker 1>an article in the Chicago Defender, Walters and this woman

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<v Speaker 1>had been having a consensual relationship. There was a riot

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<v Speaker 1>in Longview shortly thereafter, which started with a white mob

0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.600
<v Speaker 1>assaulting a black journalist that they believed had written this

0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.160
<v Speaker 1>article in the Chicago Defender, and then burning down his home.

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<v Speaker 1>On June twenty six, a mob lynched John Hartfield of Ellisville, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>on the grounds that he had, according to them, raped

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<v Speaker 1>a white woman. His family members and friends maintained that

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<v Speaker 1>it was because he had a white girlfriend. This lynching

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<v Speaker 1>was announced ahead of time on the front page of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jackson Daily News under the headline John Hartsfield will

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<v Speaker 1>be lynched by Ellisville mob at five o'clock this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>On August twenty eighth, a mob dragged Eli Cooper out

0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of his home in Cadwell, Georgia. This mob's rational is

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<v Speaker 1>not clear. In some accounts he had made a pass

0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.680
<v Speaker 1>at a white woman, and others she had made a

0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.000
<v Speaker 1>pass at him. A newspaper report from the time said quote,

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<v Speaker 1>he had been talking for some time in a manner

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<v Speaker 1>that was very offensive to the white people of the

0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.040
<v Speaker 1>community in which he resided. He was either hanged or

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<v Speaker 1>shot in a church, and then his body was set

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. A few days later, a mob in Bogolusa,

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana killed veteran Lucius McCarty, who had been accused of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to rape a white woman. His assailants shot him

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of times before dragging him behind a car and

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<v Speaker 1>burning his body. On September twenty ninth and thirtieth, three

0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>black men were lynched in Montgomery, Alabama, over the span

0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of about twelve hours. A mob abducted Railias Pfeiffer and

0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Robert Krosskey as they were being transported to jail after

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.159
<v Speaker 1>being accused of assaulting a white woman. Pfeiffer was a

0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 1>veteran and was reportedly in uniform at the time, the

0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.280
<v Speaker 1>mob shot both Pfeiffer and Krossky, and then in a

0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.199
<v Speaker 1>separate incident, an officer tried to arrest will Temple and

0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.440
<v Speaker 1>two other people for disorderly conduct. Temple resisted arrest, fatally

0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.480
<v Speaker 1>shooting the officer and being injured himself in the process.

0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.160
<v Speaker 1>A mob murdered him in his hospital ward. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are of course just samples from the eighty three recorded

0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.600
<v Speaker 1>lynchings in the summer and fall of nineteen nineteen, and

0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.960
<v Speaker 1>there were certainly others that were not recorded. And the

0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.320
<v Speaker 1>reason none of the perpetrators are named is that overwhelmingly

0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we do not know who they were. It was incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>rare for the perpetrators of lynching to face any kind

0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of criminal charges. Sometimes members of law enforcement were even

0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.600
<v Speaker 1>part of the lynch mob. Occasionally law enforcement offered a

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<v Speaker 1>reward for information or tried to arrest perpetrators, but when

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that happened, the white community often reacted with outrage. Afterward,

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.200
<v Speaker 1>members of the mob frequently took souvenirs with them from

0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the scene, as well as taking photos which were later

0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.360
<v Speaker 1>distributed as postcards. These were also not just some random,

0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.679
<v Speaker 1>haphazard actions. They were part of a pattern of really

0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gruesome racist violence committed by the white community in order

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to terrorize, punish, and humiliate the black community and in

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the minds of the perpetrators quote, keep them in their place.

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.240
<v Speaker 1>The same was true of nineteen nineteen's riots, which we

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<v Speaker 1>will talk about after a break. The other major hallmark

0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of Red Summer was mass violence perpetrated by white mobs

0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.800
<v Speaker 1>against black people and the neighborhoods where they lived and worked.

0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.400
<v Speaker 1>These incidents are often described as race riots, and that's

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a term whose meaning has shifted in various ways over

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the decades, but to many people it suggest that people

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of two or more races were fighting against each other

0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>as equal aggressors, and that's really not what was happening

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>during Red Summer. Often black communities did try to defend

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>themselves or fight back, and occasionally black residents went on

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the attack themselves, but overwhelmingly, even when this happened, the

0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 1>primary instigators were the white mob. As was the case

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<v Speaker 1>with lynchings, these riots often followed some kind of crime

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.919
<v Speaker 1>or wrongdoing allegedly committed by a black person, usually a

0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:42.080
<v Speaker 1>black man, but often these criminal allegations were completely false

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.840
<v Speaker 1>or the response from the white community was way out

0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of proportion to what had really happened, and in some cases,

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the perceived wrongdoing wasn't a criminal act at all. In

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<v Speaker 1>Port Arthur, Texas, a riot followed objections to a black

0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 1>man smoking in a streetcar in front of a white woman.

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<v Speaker 1>In multiple instances, the purported transgression was black veterans appearing

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in public in their uniforms. In one of the incidents

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to talk about in a moment, it

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was a response to sharecroppers trying to organize for fairer treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>There were at least twenty six documented examples of these

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 1>riots between April and November nineteen nineteen. You'll see numbers

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that range from like twenty four to thirty. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of depends on how people are defining the window of

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<v Speaker 1>time and exactly what constitutes a riot. They definitely occurred

0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. And we're going to talk about three of

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the most notorious. They have a lot of similarities, but

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:59.400
<v Speaker 1>they also illustrate the range of purported causes. Riots in Washington,

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>d C. Followed rumors of an attack on a white

0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.119
<v Speaker 1>woman and were largely carried out by soldiers and veterans.

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>In Chicago, Illinois, riots followed a breach of the city's

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.679
<v Speaker 1>unofficial rules about segregation, and in Elane, Arkansas, they followed

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.719
<v Speaker 1>black sharecroppers attempts to organize. We will go chronologically, starting

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.000
<v Speaker 1>with the Washington, d C. Riot, which started on July nineteenth,

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen. A black man had been detained and then

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 1>released by Washington, d C Police under suspicion that he

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.439
<v Speaker 1>had assaulted a white woman. The woman was a sailor's wife,

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>which led servicemen, sailors, and veterans to try to seek revenge.

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Rumors about this incident spread through the city saloons and

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>pool halls, which were a popular hangout for returning veterans.

0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Unemployment was a real issue, so as the rumors swirled,

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the people who heard them were mostly unemployed, intoxicated, and frustrated. Ultimately,

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a mob of about four hundred men, many of them drunk,

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 1>made their way southwest into Washington's majority black neighborhoods, gathering

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 1>up improvised weapons as they went, and some of them

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>were still in uniform. This mob attacked black residents indiscriminately,

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and police really did very little to respond. When local

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.879
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement did arrive, they mostly arrested the mob's black

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.119
<v Speaker 1>victims rather than the white perpetrators. This first day of

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.360
<v Speaker 1>street fighting bled into more than four days of rioting,

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>with mobs of soldiers and sailors attacking people on the

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>street and black residents fighting back. More than one hundred

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and fifty people were physically attacked and at least nine

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>people died during the initial wave of fighting, but the

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>situation quickly got worse. More than five hundred firearms were

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>sold in the city on July twenty first, as black

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 1>residents took up arms to defend themselves because the police

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 1>were not or in some cases to seek restitution for

0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the earlier violence. At least fifteen people were killed or

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>mortally wounded just on the night of the twenty first,

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>ten White five black President Woodrow Wilson finally deployed about

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand troops to try to restore order. By that point, though,

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the city had become so violent that people really thought

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that might not be enough, but the troops got help

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.680
<v Speaker 1>from a heavy rainstorm that drove many of the people

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>who had been fighting back indoors. The riot ended on

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 1>May twenty fourth, by which point close to forty people

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:27.439
<v Speaker 1>had been killed and hundreds injured. The riot ended on

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>July twenty fourth, by which point close to forty people

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 1>had been killed and hundreds injured, and then the Chicago

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Riot started just days later on July twenty seventh, nineteen nineteen,

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>after an altercation at a swimming area, and the swimming

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>area was not officially segregated, but local white residents thought

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of it as for their use only. First, there was

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>an altercation on shore between black residents who wanted to

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>use the swimming area and white residents who demanded that

0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they leave. As this was happening, a group of boys

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 1>was swimming from a raft and accidentally crossed into the

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>white's only part of the lake. Someone threw a rock

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>at them and hit seventeen year old Eugene Williams in

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the head. He lost consciousness and drowned. The coroner's jury

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>has a slightly different account that he was not struck,

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but that because of the stones being thrown he was

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>forced to stay under water until he was just too

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>exhausted to keep swimming. When police arrived on the scene,

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:29.120
<v Speaker 1>white officers refused to arrest the man that black witnesses

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.959
<v Speaker 1>identified as the stone thrower. Increasingly, angry crowds gathered at

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 1>the lake, and then rumors started to spread through the

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>city about exactly what had happened, and as rumors tend

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to do, they spiraled as they went. Eventually, a black

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>man named James Crawford fired into a group of policemen

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and injured one of them. They returned fire and killed Crawford.

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>This led to widespread violence throughout the city that lasted

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<v Speaker 1>until August third. Thirty eight people were killed, fifteen white

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and twenty three black. Five hundred thirty seven were injured.

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Of those, one hundred ninety five were white and three

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred forty two were black. White mobs also burned down

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>about one thousand homes in Chicago's black neighborhoods. The Chicago

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>police force was not at all effective at stopping this violence,

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in part because it was understaffed and in part because

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>white officers were biased toward the white rioters. Eventually, six

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand troops from the state militia were deployed to try

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to restore order, and then, as had happened in Washington,

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they were helped by a sudden heavy rain. This wasn't

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>quite as one sided as many of Red Summer's riots.

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Many of the white residents who were injured or killed

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 1>were in predominantly black neighborhoods when it happened. Some were

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>injured or killed when black residents defended themselves, but others

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>were white merchants or other business people who worked in

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>black neighborhoods and were attacked as people sought restitution for

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>earlier violence. As it happened in the later days of

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the Washington d c Riot, an eye for an eye

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>mentality developed on both sides. The third riot we're discussing

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>took place in a lane, Arkansas, and it was more

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of a massacre than a riot. It started after black

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>sharecroppers started trying to organize for better pay. On September thirtieth,

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>about one hundred of them met with representatives of the

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Progressive Farmers and Household Union of America. They met in

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 1>a church in hoopsbur which was kept under armed guard

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>during the meeting, in the hope of preventing the kind

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of violence that had been so common over the previous months.

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>In this part of Arkansas. Black residents outnumbered white about

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>ten to one, and the white community found this inherently threatening.

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>This kind of organizing effort was even more so, especially

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>with the presence of armed guards. At about eleven PM,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>some people fired into the church from outside, kind of

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.439
<v Speaker 1>in the shadows where the guards couldn't see them. The

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>guards returned fire, and in the process a white man

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>named W. A. Atkins was killed. At some point during

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>all this, Phillips County Deputy Sheriff Charles Pratt was also wounded.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>In the minds of Elaine's white residence. This transformed the

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>meeting from an implicit threat to an armed insurrection actively

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>being planned, and it wasn't just rumor. The white press

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>reported this supposed insurrection as a fact. Hundreds of white

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>residents from around Phillips County traveled to Elaine to deal

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.880
<v Speaker 1>with the supposed threat, and local authorities asked the governor

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to deploy the National Guard. A mob burned down the

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>church where the meeting had happened, and together these vigilantes

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and the National Guard troops took hundreds of black residents

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of Elaine into custody and held them in temporary stockades.

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<v Speaker 1>This mob, over the next couple of days, killed at

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<v Speaker 1>least two hundred people. The official toll may have been

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<v Speaker 1>much higher, but there wasn't a formal tally. Walter White,

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<v Speaker 1>assistant secretary of the NAACP, and past podcast subject I

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<v Speaker 1>to b Wells Barnett each investigated what had happened in

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<v Speaker 1>a Lane. Both found that the quote armed insurrection being

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<v Speaker 1>hyped in the white press just simply did not exist,

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and if Elaine's black community had been planning an armed insurrection,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it seemed as though the death toll logically would have

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>been much different. None of the white participants in this

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>were ever tried for their roles in this massacre. Instead,

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 1>twelve black men were put on trial and the deaths

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of the five white people who were killed. During the trials,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a white mob surrounded the courthouse and threatened to lynch

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the men if they were not given the death penalty.

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>An all white jury found them all guilty, and the

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>judge handed down sentences of death for all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>These twelve were not the only people who were set

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to stand trial. Another sixty five accepted plea bargains. After

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that first wave of convictions and sentencing, the NAACP backed

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a series of appeals that finally made their way to

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<v Speaker 1>the US Supreme Court as Voar versus Dempsey in nineteen

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty three. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes authored the majority opinion

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that the defendant's constitutional rights had been violated. This was

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a major victory for the NAACP and for the civil

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>rights of Black Americans in general. After being granted new trials,

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the twelve men were ultimately freed. Red Summer was not

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>at all the end of racist violence in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>We have talked about similar riots and massacres that happened

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>afterward on the show before, including the destruction of Greenwood,

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma in nineteen twenty one, and the massacre in Rosewood,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Florida in nineteen twenty three, but they didn't happen with

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the same frequency as they had during the Red Summer.

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>We talked at the start of the show about all

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the factors that had primed the United States for all

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>this violence. So that leads to the question of why

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>did Red Summer end. The economy did start to improve,

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and especially when it came to mob violence, The onset

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of colder winter weather probably tempered things a little bit,

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of those other factors were still present

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>or even growing. The Great Migration was still going on,

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and by the end of it millions of people would

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>have moved to cities. This general atmosphere of nationalism and

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>xenophobia was still very present. A big part of it

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>is that by the fall of nineteen nineteen, the white

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>majority had increasingly started to see these incidents as part

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of an unacceptable pattern. There had been elected officials and

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>other civic leaders who had denounced the events from the

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>very beginning, but these calls became louder and more frequent.

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Law enforcement officials started taking more steps to make sure

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that mobs couldn't just abduct people from the jail to

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>lynch them. The white press also started toning down some

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>of its rhetoric in terms of criminal allegations against black residents,

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and then across the board, newspapers started taking a less

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>sensationalistic and incendiary approach to discussing race related violence. Civil

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>rights were organizations also started working toward building more positive

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>relations between black and white communities. For example, after the

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Chicago riot, the city established the Chicago Commission on Race Relations,

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>which investigated the riot and made recommendations to prevent something

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>similar from happening again. It published its report The Negro

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, a Study of Race Relations and a Race

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Riot in nineteen twenty two, which included not just a

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>thorough investigation of the riot, but also of relationships between

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>white and black communities in Chicago. Although not every riot

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>led to this sort of investigation, there were other commissions

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and organizations that did the same types of work elsewhere

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. In other words, the violence didn't

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>just play itself out. People actively worked to stop it.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's sort of the highlights of highlights is not

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>even a good word like low lights. Yes, that's sort

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of a quick look at read Summer. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be there could be a whole podcast. It

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>would just be about Red Summer that would go on

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>for many, many, many episodes, because there were so many

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>things that happened, but so many of them follow this

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>exact same pattern in terms of like the precipitating event

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and then what transpired, the actions that this like white

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>mob took, and then how things usually ended without any

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of formal acknowledgment or investigation. Thanks so much for

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