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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February third. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who will fight your name to

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Speaker 1: retain the name, Commander J. P. Chad Rick. Welcome on.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon and a

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Speaker 1: busy show ahead. Well there's really no new news yet,

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Speaker 1: but here's what's coming up. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lagerman's coming up.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a few weeks. Jaguars continue

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Speaker 1: the coaching search. There are rumors and reports will get

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Speaker 1: to some of those will take a look at the

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Speaker 1: NFL head coach Tracker, teams that have hired and the

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Speaker 1: teams that have yet to hire head coaches. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: interview tracker as well, names that they have interviewed and

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Speaker 1: um maybe are currently who knows, well, look at that

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Speaker 1: coming up? Well, of course, go around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: A busy offseason already around the league. Newsworthy and it's

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Speaker 1: not even the Super Bowl yet. Jeff Loggingman with us

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Speaker 1: now Jaguars analysts, Good afternoon, what's up, Logs, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Haven't seen you in about what three or four weeks

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Speaker 1: something like that. Hasn't been that well it's been a

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Speaker 1: hot minute. Was it the season? Yeah, I guess it was.

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Speaker 1: It was last week, so that would be I was

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Speaker 1: on vacation last week, JP. Yeah, well good and rightly

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Speaker 1: so yeah, no, it was good. Uh had a little

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Speaker 1: trip to the mountains of Tennessee and I got to

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Speaker 1: see what the smoky mountain drawl about. So it was

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Speaker 1: a great vacation, great getaway. Thought for sure that the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars would have a head coach hired by then, but not. Well,

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Speaker 1: the reports where they were close, and then they weren't,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they're close again, but who knows. We have

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Speaker 1: not seen the white smoke out of the chimney yet.

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Speaker 1: I really believed that this this job last year was

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Speaker 1: the most attractive in the National Football League. You had

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Speaker 1: a first overall draft pick, with the possibility of drafting

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You had a team that was flush with

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Speaker 1: cap room, that had plenty, I mean, a full array

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Speaker 1: of draft picks. And then Urban Meyer is hired, and

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Speaker 1: I really believe that this could have been the number

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Speaker 1: one most attractive job as well this year, and for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, it hasn't been that. And you can point

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Speaker 1: to a lot of different things, but the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is is that five openings have been filled

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Speaker 1: before this one has been filled. And if this was

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Speaker 1: the number one attractive job, then people would have been

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Speaker 1: holding out hope to get this job at some point.

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Speaker 1: And so here it is. You know that there's there's

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Speaker 1: four openings left. This team is is one of them,

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Speaker 1: and uh, we're still kind of waiting to see what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. And I think that's a very curious situation

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Speaker 1: to go from from last year this being the hot

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Speaker 1: job to take and and the number one job to

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Speaker 1: take where it could have been this year, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here we are in this hiring cycle.

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Speaker 1: And you know that that that brings more questions into

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Speaker 1: the equation. By the way, we're right at fifty days

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Speaker 1: since Ervin Maya was fired seven weeks, you know, so

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Speaker 1: you have a head start on a lot of teams,

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Speaker 1: which which also should have been able to give you

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Speaker 1: an edge in the evaluation of your of your coaching search.

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Speaker 1: And and look, I'm all about getting it right. So

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Speaker 1: if if making it take longer means getting it right,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. But I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: times if you're not making the right decision in an

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Speaker 1: expedient manner. I think it hampers a lot of other

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Speaker 1: with the subsequent hirings after your head coach is hired.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the NFL head coach tracker.

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Speaker 1: As you said, Logs, five teams have hired coaches that well,

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Speaker 1: four officially. One is coming officially after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Matt ebra Flus is going to the Bears, Made Hackett

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has an agreement apparently with the Vikings will

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Speaker 1: likely the Super Bowl. Four teams open, of course, the Jags,

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Speaker 1: the Saints, the Texans, and the Dolphins are remaining. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And could that be a hindrance to some people maybe,

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Jaguars interview tracker via

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com and they have listed all of the

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Speaker 1: reported names that have interviewed with the Jags. There's a

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Speaker 1: long list for the Jaguars. By the way, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: feel like there was a report this past week that

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars were putting in to talk to Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 1: but then they had to wait until after the Super Bowl. Well,

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Speaker 1: now O'Connell's been hired. That was like they had to

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Speaker 1: But since he is now, by the way, real quick,

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Speaker 1: That was the latest name to be added to the

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Speaker 1: could there be a dark horse candidate? I say absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't really know. I mean what the

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Speaker 1: So you're saying there's a chance, which one of the

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Speaker 1: only four teams remaining. Two hire coaches. These other staffs

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, even Kevin O'Connell i guarantee you is already

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Speaker 1: you know, I really got to concentrate on the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I can't worry about putting my staff together.

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Speaker 1: What now, I'm putting the staff together. I'm getting on

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be a head coach with the vikings.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get my stuff together. Man. Okay, you can

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Speaker 1: apparently not going to be a connection with the past regime.

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Speaker 1: For example, they like the Baltimore Ravens. You know, if

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Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. With this staff,

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Speaker 1: and in putting a staff together, Um, there's there's so

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Speaker 1: much to do when you think about, Okay, the combine

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Speaker 1: so close, the free agency is not that far. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to that staff, the staffing part.

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Speaker 1: You're missing out right now, you're missing out, and then

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Speaker 1: you can't argue that when we return, it's college prospects

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Speaker 1: scouting season. The All Star games are happening. We'll get

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Speaker 1: Jeff Logman's annual Shrine Bowl story. You can bring that

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Speaker 1: up every year, I think around this time, which is good.

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Speaker 1: And you know the way, when you say about all

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Speaker 1: these all star games, you're also missing out with a

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Speaker 1: staff's opportunity to evaluate, to add to your personnel department's opinion.

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Speaker 1: Scouts are scouting, but the four eyes, the better coaches

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Speaker 1: have an opinion. In scouting, two coaches have to give

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Speaker 1: you directive. Hey, look, we're looking for this type of

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Speaker 1: guy to fit this system. You don't know what type

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Speaker 1: of guy and what type of system you're on right now.

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Speaker 1: They're just collecting information. Feels like, let's come back in

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Speaker 1: a moment of Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, and if you're watching us

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com or jag Social media, it's a

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Speaker 1: live look at the demolition of the practice fields for

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Speaker 1: the new football Performance Center that is slated to open

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00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: for training camp. They started what a day or two

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Speaker 1: after the season ended here and put up the temporary fencing,

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Speaker 1: brought in a couple of mobile trailers for the offices

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Speaker 1: for the construction, and then started tearing things down. The

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Speaker 1: bleachers are now gone. Field one, which was nearest to

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Speaker 1: the bleachers, is now chopped up halfway. They're taking the

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Speaker 1: drainage out of one portion. They're taking down the concrete

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Speaker 1: wall on the south end. Well, there's a lot going

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Speaker 1: on right now. At least there's some shovels in the

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Speaker 1: ground and that's a good thing to see. Yeah, that, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they didn't waste any time in poor Field one. Field

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Speaker 1: one used to be uh one of those rubber ground

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Speaker 1: up rubber in late artificial turf field. It's hot as hell,

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Speaker 1: and then it was gotten rid of because it was

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Speaker 1: hot and it was not the greatest surface in the

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Speaker 1: world and turned into a natural grass field. And now

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be turned up and turned into something else.

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Speaker 1: I think, first of all, it's gonna be an amazing complex,

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Speaker 1: and from what I understand, it's gonna be very similar

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Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins complex. Some similarities there from an

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Speaker 1: architectural standpoint. I think that saved them a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time too, because if that facility has already been

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Speaker 1: designed a certain way, you can take some pieces of that.

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Speaker 1: It's a little time and develop, which is smart. I

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Speaker 1: mean in the in the essence of time. I just

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Speaker 1: remember when you go back to when we didn't have

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Speaker 1: a field at that time and where those uh I

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Speaker 1: think where the fair fair grounds are at? Uh? Or

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Speaker 1: was it right there? By trying to remember the exact

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Speaker 1: location of the old baseball grounds, Oh, the Wolfson Park,

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Speaker 1: Yeah about Yeah, it was kind of on the footprint

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Speaker 1: of the on the footprint of the practice field. So

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a field in the in the beginning

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Speaker 1: of so when we used to go outside to do

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Speaker 1: we would do some like ply metrics and stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: where you're doing high knees and butt kicks and shuffling

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of all that stuff. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: still do it all the time. And we would go

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Speaker 1: out to the baseball field Wilson Park, that's right, that's

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Speaker 1: what it was called, the Wolfson Park back then, and

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Speaker 1: we would tear it up. You know, we're wearing wets,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I just felt bad because you know,

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Speaker 1: when you do football drills from the same spot, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're just tearing up the south field. I just want

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Speaker 1: to sit. I'm sitting there thinking to myself, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a baseball player and I come out here for a

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Speaker 1: game or a practice and and all these football guys

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Speaker 1: have been out here and I'm looking at my field,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not very happy right now. And because

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Speaker 1: our field at the time, which I remember correctly, that

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Speaker 1: used to be the old paint factory on the south

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Speaker 1: end of the stadium. So they essentially brought in some

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Speaker 1: dirt to cover up all the lead from the old

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Speaker 1: paint factory, okay, and covered it up and then put

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Speaker 1: some sad down. And so we were practicing on probably

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Speaker 1: some bad things for many years. And then it got moved.

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Speaker 1: Eventually the location that it's that now, but it's done

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Speaker 1: a lot of transition with those practice fields over the year.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of good teams on those early practice fields,

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Speaker 1: very good teams, very good players. Hall of famer. A

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, Tony was Sully, Jimmie Smith, Fred Taylor

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Speaker 1: was on those feet a Hall of Famer. By the way,

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Speaker 1: what do they announced the Hall of Fame? I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for Tony this coming through a week from today. A

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Speaker 1: week from today, it's when the honors show is. I

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Speaker 1: believe it's during that show they'll announce it. It's already

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Speaker 1: been voted upon, but the results are not out there yet,

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Speaker 1: so I think we'll find out that. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to know because I mean, I knew it was and

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Speaker 1: up because it's always Super Bowl week, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: know the exact date because I mean, I I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get in this year. And and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring this up because um, uh

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Speaker 1: the guy that did a radio show and I retweeted

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Speaker 1: what he said, and I think it was um former

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman that played in the league, Uh Ryan what No,

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Speaker 1: I was, Uh, he does some radio stuff anyway, Ross

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Speaker 1: Tucker Ross Tucker. Thank you. Ross Tucker did a segment

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Speaker 1: with somebody where he talked about watching film of the

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Speaker 1: great left tackles during his era, and it was and

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Speaker 1: I thought he was spot on, and that he talked about,

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Speaker 1: you know, Ogden as being a really good football player,

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Speaker 1: which Jonathan was. He's one of those guys that when

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Speaker 1: I went against him, I really didn't have a plan

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Speaker 1: because it just said I didn't know what was gonna

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Speaker 1: work because he was such a freakish athlete athlete in

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Speaker 1: so long. And then there was Walter Jones and Orlando

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Speaker 1: Pace and Walter Jones and and he brought this up

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Speaker 1: that Walter Jones and Bisselli were the two best, but

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Speaker 1: he said Bisselli was the best, and and there is,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, he has spot on. I never, I

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Speaker 1: never ever watched one of my own offensive players was

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Speaker 1: such great admiration as Tony Basselli. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: a guy that when we weren't on the field as

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Speaker 1: a defense, I would get my cup of water and

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Speaker 1: then walked back to a spot that I could watch

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Speaker 1: him go against the greats, whether it Ben Shawn Jones

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Speaker 1: or Bruce Smith or whoever. And I'd watch him kick

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Speaker 1: their rear end and it was one of the great

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Speaker 1: I mean, I had a front road ticket, man, Popcorn,

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Speaker 1: I mean front road ticket to a great player. And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a great player that was making great

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Speaker 1: players look like they were nothing. And he was, without

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Speaker 1: a doubt, the best left tackle in that era. And

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Speaker 1: that's hands down, without a doubt. Let's hope the the

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Speaker 1: coronation begins next week. Though. The only thing that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have in comparison to some of these other guys

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Speaker 1: is the longevity. That's that's the only thing. But but

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Speaker 1: but his heights for three or four years was higher

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Speaker 1: than those guys. But he just again that longevity thing.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those guys did it for twelve, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: fourteen years. However many years that they did it, they

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Speaker 1: just did it longer. So anyway, I'm rooting for him,

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Speaker 1: and uh and I will I will be jumping up

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Speaker 1: and down if he gets elected next Thursday. Rick Stroud

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Speaker 1: from the Tampa Bay Times, a long time NFL writer,

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Speaker 1: tweeting out just a little over twenty minutes ago. Here's

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Speaker 1: the quote hearing Bucks offensive coordinator Byron Left, which is

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Speaker 1: expected to remove himself from consideration for the Jaguars head

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Speaker 1: coaching job soon. Former Raiders interim head coach Rich Bisaccia

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Speaker 1: and former Eagles coach Doug Peterson remains strong candidates. End quote.

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Speaker 1: That's Rick Stroud, Tampa Bay about twenty four minutes ago

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Speaker 1: right now. Interesting. Well, it's very interesting that somebody would

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Speaker 1: move remove themselves from consideration given that, I mean, being

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Speaker 1: a head coach in the National Football League's tremendous opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very curious. I'd love to know the

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Speaker 1: reasoning behind that. There's a lot of speculation, a lot

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Speaker 1: of speculation as to why he hasn't been hired yet,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it has to do with the general manager situation,

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Speaker 1: and that's the speculation. I don't know if that's why

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Speaker 1: he would pull him self out of consideration, But Rick

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Speaker 1: Stroud is a reputable guy who has had very reputable

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Speaker 1: information in the past, and I think that that would

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Speaker 1: be unfortunate if that's the case. But I will tell

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Speaker 1: you that I think Byron Left which is a wonderful candidate.

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Speaker 1: I think Rick Posaccia is a is an outstanding Canada

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Speaker 1: A matter of fact, a couple of weeks ago, I

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Speaker 1: had a conversation with Gus Bradley about him, and Gus

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00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't speak highly enough about him, great things to

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Speaker 1: say about him. And then obviously, uh, Doug Peterson has

589
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Speaker 1: won a super Bowl and he kind of fell out

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Speaker 1: of favor in Philadelphia if people will remember back, because

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Speaker 1: there was this falling out with the Carson Wentz situation,

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Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz wasn't exactly handled with kid gloves at

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Speaker 1: the last part of with Philadelphia. If you look back

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Speaker 1: at that and you evaluate where Carson Wentz is at now,

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Speaker 1: who handled that properly? I think Doug Pearson handled it

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Speaker 1: right and that he knew that Carson Wentz wasn't the

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Speaker 1: franchise answer at quarterback, and so why continue to continue

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Speaker 1: on with a charade that he's gonna be this great

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Speaker 1: quarterback when he didn't have a belief in him because

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Speaker 1: the general manager gave him this long extension. Long extension

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Speaker 1: doesn't make you the answer and doesn't make you a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback. Great play makes somebody a great quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: I think I think Doug Peterson would be a wonderful hire.

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Speaker 1: He's been there, he's done that, He's been around the

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Speaker 1: league forever too, A long time, long time player quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Dolphins and the Packers and the Eagles, the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's a backup most of his careers,

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Speaker 1: so he's been around the league for a long long time.

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Speaker 1: And he's an offensive mind. And we have we have

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Speaker 1: a great young quarterback here in Jacksonville that I believe

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Speaker 1: very strongly in and I and he just he needs

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Speaker 1: to be developed. He needs to continue to be surrounded

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Speaker 1: with talent, and most importantly, he needs to be surrounded

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Speaker 1: with stability. And if you think that just because you

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Speaker 1: have this wonderful young quarterback that wins are magically going

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Speaker 1: to appear, take a look at the Detroit lines under

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and tell me how that worked out. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen. That magic pixie dust of just

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Speaker 1: having the quarterback and getting it all right doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: You got you gotta have that in place to have

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Speaker 1: a chance, but it doesn't mean that you're gonna you

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Speaker 1: have it solved. Can you imagine if if Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to play with a good football team

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Speaker 1: for a long period of time, like one that he's

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Speaker 1: been surrounded with in l A. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: he's on one now and the first year in here

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Speaker 1: they go on to the Super Bowl's first year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's some of those things that you that you watch

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Speaker 1: and you observe the history you can you cannot ignore,

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Speaker 1: and you cannot allow them to be ignored in the

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Speaker 1: decision making process that you're making for your organization moving forward.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment and go around the

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Speaker 1: nast A Football League. Plenty of headlines, storylines around the

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Speaker 1: league a little over a week away from the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and as we just mentioned, apparently Bucks offensive coordinator Byron

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Speaker 1: left Which expected to remove himself from consideration for the

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Speaker 1: Jags head coaching job. That's according to Rick Stroud of

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Times. We're back with more in a moment.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon, JP Shadrick

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Speaker 1: with Jeff Logaman. Glad you're with us. The off season

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Speaker 1: rolls along. Reports this afternoon that Byron Leftwich is expected

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Speaker 1: to pull his name out of the running for the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars head coaching job, and that has the social media

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Speaker 1: world a buzz. I'll say that right now. The social

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Speaker 1: media world has been a buzz of flame for quite

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Speaker 1: some times. It has, Yes, it has, it will continue,

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Speaker 1: I believe. I mean, people have a right to express

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Speaker 1: their opinion and uh and I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 1: wrong with that. I think you just gotta be respectful

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Speaker 1: about it. But express yourself as you desire. College All

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Speaker 1: Star season, Senior Bowl week, we were supposed to go cover,

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Speaker 1: but we were kind of hung. I had to hang

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Speaker 1: back here just in case things happen with the coaching search.

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Speaker 1: We weren't. You know, so you got tipped off that

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Speaker 1: there was gonna be a coach named No, not at all?

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Speaker 1: Are lying? I'm not at all. Are you withholding information?

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Speaker 1: Is this are you tweeting right now? Is this what

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Speaker 1: you're doing? So it sounds like on Twitter right now? No,

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Speaker 1: So didn't get a chance to go this year. The

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl practices and all that. Shrine bulls tonight in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. They moved that location. Obviously in the old

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Speaker 1: days used to be out West and then they moved

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Speaker 1: it to St. Pete for the last number of years

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Speaker 1: in Tropicana Field. You don't want to be in California nowadays,

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Speaker 1: and now it's now it's in Vegas at the state

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Speaker 1: mains great. I mean, when Bucky Brooks is on the

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Speaker 1: call tonight on NFL Network, head him, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a a tough broadcast if you're trying to talk just

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Speaker 1: like like the the game itself. But if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a personnel junkie like Bucky, I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a great job. These days, at least

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Speaker 1: the last number of years, it's kind of the Shrine

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Speaker 1: Bowl has been the game for the fourth round through

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Speaker 1: seventh round kind of prospect guys. Sea Bowl has been

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Speaker 1: you know, usually it's the older guys. They have second round,

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Speaker 1: of third or fourth round for the most part, what's

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Speaker 1: what's the round? What's the one? Then for the top picks,

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Speaker 1: they don't go to any of them. Gay, Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: give an idea that years ago the Senior Bowl was viewed.

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Speaker 1: There was three of them in my era. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: had the Blue Gray Game Christmas in Montgomery, Alabama exactly.

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Speaker 1: That was considered like the lesser of all of the

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Speaker 1: All Star games, and mainly because it happened before or

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Speaker 1: during Bowl season. It also was on Christmas Day, So

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of things that weren't great about it.

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Speaker 1: At the Crampton Bowl, it's the name of the stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you had the East West Game which was

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Speaker 1: in Palo Alto, which I went to that one, and

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Speaker 1: that was actually considered a highly desirable all Star game

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Speaker 1: to go to. And then the Senior Bowl in my

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Speaker 1: era was viewed as something that you did not want

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Speaker 1: to go to because they had practices that were in

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Speaker 1: in full pads, they had a lot of contact and

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Speaker 1: players that were looking at potentially playing in these all

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Speaker 1: star games thought that that that was a very high

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Speaker 1: risk proposition and a risk of serious injury, which many

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Speaker 1: guys didn't want to even have an opportunity to partake

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Speaker 1: in at. But the the East West Shrine Game in Paulo,

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Speaker 1: Auto was awesome. I had Mike Godfried was our head

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Speaker 1: coach of the East squad. Jimmy Johnson, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Miami Hurricanes at that time, was the assistant

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Speaker 1: coach and soon to be named the Dallas Cowboys head

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Speaker 1: coach right after that. That was we had a great staff,

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Speaker 1: had a great time, had a lot of great teammates

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Speaker 1: out there, and uh and that was cool. I in

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Speaker 1: in that game. I'll never forget that that we won.

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Speaker 1: We dominated them and uh, I got to play mental linebacker,

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker, defensive end, and defensive tackle and nose tackle.

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Speaker 1: I got to play five positions. Jimmy Johnson let me

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Speaker 1: play all five positions in that game. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It was fun, a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I love this story. Every year the story comes around. Well,

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Speaker 1: the stories that shall remain untold, was that they actually

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Speaker 1: gave us these uh they had a fleet of cars, okay,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, so that you could get around

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Speaker 1: town or get to the practice if you weren't going

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Speaker 1: to ride the bus, or if you wanted to go

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Speaker 1: get something to eat. And so we somehow we me

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Speaker 1: and about four other guys got ahold of a van.

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Speaker 1: And so the the van used to um leave a

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Speaker 1: little bit in the evening and return very late, and

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Speaker 1: we would take naps in the middle of the day.

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Speaker 1: So we had one guy that after we went out

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Speaker 1: to dinner okay one night and had some fun, we

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Speaker 1: couldn't wake him up in the van to get him

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Speaker 1: inside to the hotel that we were staying at. So

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Speaker 1: we tied his shoelaces together and just left him in

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Speaker 1: the van. So then the next morning we're going out

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Speaker 1: that I'm not going to name names here, why not.

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Speaker 1: So then next morning we're going out to the buses

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Speaker 1: to head to practice, and we got to the van.

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Speaker 1: We look inside a vent. He's still in there, just

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Speaker 1: sleeping away. We're like, dude, come on, man, we got practice,

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Speaker 1: and he's like literally we opened up the door and

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Speaker 1: he falling out of the van because his shoes still

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Speaker 1: tied together. Yeah, that was That was a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: had a good time. It sounds like you did what

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Speaker 1: a week it was back in with nineteen eighty nine, right,

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Speaker 1: that would have been. Yeah, nineteen eighty nine, January of

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. I won't tell you how old I

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Speaker 1: was in January of nineteen eight How old were you?

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Speaker 1: I was young? Young? I was young. Joe were you thirty?

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Speaker 1: Let's go around I have been You're eight, Yeah, you're eight,

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Speaker 1: Joe's thirty one. I was twenty one. Yeah. Drafted Reber

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Speaker 1: was negative five man Weber pushing the buttons behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: He was He wasn't even a thought in his parents mind.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and the eminent

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Speaker 1: story of the week. Brian Flores has filed a proposed

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Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against the NFL and three teams in

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Speaker 1: particular on top of the Dolphins, Broncos, and Giants, alleging

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Speaker 1: that the Dolphins owner offered money for him to lose

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Speaker 1: games in twenty eight team to enhance draft position, and

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Speaker 1: pressured him to recruit a prominent quarterback in violation of

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Speaker 1: league tampering rules. He also alleges the Giants used his

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Speaker 1: interview only to fill the Rooney Rule requirements and had

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Speaker 1: apparent text messages from Bill Belichick mistakenly texting him congratulations

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Speaker 1: instead of Brian Dable hours before Brian Flores was scheduled

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Speaker 1: to interview, and alleges that Broncos leadership didn't take his

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Speaker 1: interview seriously a couple of years back. He's seeking unspecified

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Speaker 1: economic and punitive damages and it has set the NFL

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Speaker 1: world ablaze. He made a lot of serious accusations, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I know that there were some statements that were issued

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Speaker 1: to refute some of the allegations that he made. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I really don't understand, just going

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Speaker 1: back before the lawsuit, happened was how does Brian Flores

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Speaker 1: get fired? I mean, seriously, he he has been I

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Speaker 1: think has done a really good job as a head

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Speaker 1: coach and managing a situation in Miami and has continued

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Speaker 1: to get and get teams to play better down the line.

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Speaker 1: The situation appears that I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: ownership or this there was a battle between him and

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Speaker 1: the general manager that happened and he lost, which that's

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Speaker 1: happened before in the National Football League. But the allegations

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Speaker 1: are very serious and I think there definitely has to

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Speaker 1: be something done to change the way that the hiring

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Speaker 1: process is currently working. Because out of all of the

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Speaker 1: openings that have been filled so far, there hasn't been

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Speaker 1: a minority candidate. And there's some qualified hiring hiring, there

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Speaker 1: has not been a candidate hired. I think that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a major problem. I also think that

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Speaker 1: that for I know that the intent of the Rooney

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Speaker 1: rule is what it is, but there's got to be

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Speaker 1: a better way to accomplish the diversity that the league

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Speaker 1: is trying to reach. And I don't know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that, but it uh. I think it will open

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Speaker 1: up a lot of eyes and uh, and I think

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Speaker 1: Brian Floores has taken a very bold step because it

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Speaker 1: could essentially end his career, much like Colin Kaepernick in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And I just wondered, also, what

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Speaker 1: will it do to his relationship with Bill Belichick, which

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Speaker 1: I didn't And I know a lot of people say

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because it's more important to address some

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Speaker 1: of the bigger issues, and I get that, but you

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Speaker 1: want to have as many allies in this in this

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Speaker 1: struggle to gain attend sin to the issues that you're

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Speaker 1: trying to point out, and uh, so crazy situation. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's certainly is an issue that creates a

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Speaker 1: black eye on the league because if you look at

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Speaker 1: what's happened so far, it's hard to argue that things

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be done differently. Only one African American head coach

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Speaker 1: in the NFL at the moment, and he's one of

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Speaker 1: the most successful, in Tomlin, and I thought Brian floy

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Speaker 1: has had a lot of the same qualities of Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Brian Floyes hasn't got an interview here

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Speaker 1: and uh, and that's just my personal opinion. I think

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Speaker 1: very highly of of Brian floy is as far as

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Speaker 1: the job that he had been able to do in

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Speaker 1: the first couple of years, and if the allegations about

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Speaker 1: him getting paid to lose are true. Oh boy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Other news this week, Tom Brady retired after twenty two seasons.

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Speaker 1: They made it officially, officie. He's just put him in

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Speaker 1: the hole now. Yeah, it's not even it's not even

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Speaker 1: close that he he is the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 1: He has been a total class act. And he did more.

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Speaker 1: I think he did more this year for the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and last year that any other player is

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Speaker 1: cape any other player in the history of the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. He had did more for that organization last

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Speaker 1: years than any player has ever done for an organization

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Speaker 1: as far as from a leadership standpoint, and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: across the board, a leadership standpoint in the locker room

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Speaker 1: with players, and from a leadership standpoint with a coaching staff, ownership, organization, everything,

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Speaker 1: and that that last run with guys who have been

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Speaker 1: wanting for a long time and then goes somewhere at

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Speaker 1: the tail end. A lot of times doesn't go that well.

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Speaker 1: This is certainly the exception to that. Washington football team

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Speaker 1: has a new name, the Commanders. What do you think

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Speaker 1: the whole process was kind of you know, they got

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Speaker 1: a helicopter that could let the cat out of the back.

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Speaker 1: Joe Thiesman, in typical form, couldn't keep his mouth shut

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Speaker 1: and uh not tell what the name was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's typical Washington football team, Washington Commanders. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just a typical happening for that organization. That that

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Speaker 1: organization has been, uh somewhat dysfunctional over the years. There

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Speaker 1: are some former employees that we're meeting with members of

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Speaker 1: Congress today as well. So people want to turn what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the Jaguars are dysfunctional? Will slow down,

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Speaker 1: take a look at the Washington Commanders. That's Joe Fortunato

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Speaker 1: on audio, Brent Rebrun video. Jeff will talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: You've got Jeff Laghman. I'm JP Shadrick. This is Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.