1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: We welcome Vice President Mike Pence. Mister Vice President, thank 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: you so much for joining Boomberg Television. We just heard 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: from President Biden on this historic UAW strike, as well 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: as Sean Fain. You and Sean Faine actually share some geography. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: He worked at a plant in. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Kokomo, Indiana, one hundred miles from your hotown of Columbus. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: But he's striking against the Big Three. 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: This is about Detroit and Michigan, a state you and 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump flipped to red the first time Republicans 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: flipped Michigan in twenty sixteen since the nineteen eighties, but 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: you lost it in twenty twenty. Are you on the 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: side of the workers? Do you think what they're doing 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: is justified? 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: Well, look, let me say I'm on the site of 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: the American people who are struggling under the failed policies 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: of the Biden administration. Joe Biden is weak in this 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: country at home and abroad. But the gusher of spending 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: when they came into office two trillion dollars in unnecessary 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: spending launched the worst inflation in forty years. Wages haven't 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: kept up the backdrop of what's happening between the big three, 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: and the U a W today is that American workers 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: are hurting. I hear it everywhere I go across the country. 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: You know, people are struggling to pay for groceries, They're 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: struggling to pay for gasoline at the pomp and it's 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 3: you know, I tell people this one crisis after another, 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: but they're all man made crises. And that man's name 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: is Joe Biden. And so I think the first thing 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: is the strike and the demands that you hear from 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: workers are being driven by people that are that are 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: that are enduring the failed policies of Bidenomics. But I 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: also think, Amory, I honestly think what you touched on 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: just a few moments ago is an unreported. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Aspect of this. Look. I was governor of state of Indiana. 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: It's the second your. 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: Right to work state. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: It's a right to work state. But we have a 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: proud U a W tradition. They're a proud automotive tradition. 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: In the state of Indiana. 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: So, and I will tell you what what I'm hearing 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: around the country is that that auto workers are very, 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: very concerned about Joe Biden's Green NWD deal, heavy handed. 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: Effort to use taxpayer. 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: Dollars to drive these automotive companies into electric vehicle production. 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: I mean, you got you got one hundred and forty 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: five thousand workers out there that have been many of 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: them built a lifetime making gasoline powered cars, and suddenly 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: they see Joe Biden and liberal Democrats pushing down this 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: electric vehicle the gend. You see states like California that 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: are saying at the end of the decade, they don't 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: even let you sell a gasoline powered vehicle in the state. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: I think that's also driving this. 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: So the backdrop of the failed policies of the Biden administration, 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: plus the heavy handed effort with their Green New Deal 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: to to use taxpayer dollars to drive these companies away 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: from the traditional manufacturing that so many UAW workers have 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: made it in. 57 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: I think that's what brought us to today. 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit more about what Sean Feyin 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 5: and his union members are saying. 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 6: They're trying to play catch up. 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: They say, sure, with a massive gap between worker pay 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: and executive pay. He said, we're tired of living office 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: scraps left by millionaire executives. When it comes to wages, 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 5: you opposed raising the minimum wage in two thousand and 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: seven as a congressman at that time, believe it was 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 5: five point fifteen. They wanted to raise it, and I 67 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: believed into seven twenty five at the time. And as governor, 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: you blocked an effort that would have had local municipalities 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 5: essentially demand higher wages from some companies. I know that's 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 5: actually in line with your politics. So I guess I 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: would ask you here, how should they be catching up? 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 5: If wages kept par with profit growth over the last 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 5: two decades, would these workers be in the same spot. 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, let's be clear. 75 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: I mean I believe in free market economics. Free enterprises 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: created the most prosperous nation in the world has ever known. 77 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: We have to preserve that. 78 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: And minimum wage debates that always came up back in 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: my day, Anderson, even when I was governor. I mean, 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: you looked around state of Indiana. You look at labor shortages. Today, 81 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: nobody's making minimum wage. I mean, the marketplace is paying 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: out a higher number all across the country, with very 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: few exceptions. But I think you put your finger on it, Joe. 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: I think what's happening with this strike and I'm glad 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: it only affects thirteen thousand workers so far far because 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: of all these one hundred and forty five thousand workers 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: go on strike, that's going to have an enormous impact 88 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: on an economy is already struggling and is literally on 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: the verge of a recession. But I think that rather 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: than going back to the same rhetoric about closing the 91 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: gap between the executives and others, will hear that more 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: we just heard that from President Biden is to recognize 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: that under Biden's economic policies, wages have not been keeping 94 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: up with inflation, and hard working Americans out in the 95 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: heartland know that inflation. 96 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: Is starting to come down now. 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: A lot of these legislative products of the Biden administration 98 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: is really also about China. They're trying to move the 99 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: supply chain away from China to get an EV tax credit. 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Most of that car needs to be assembled or some 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: of the battery materials has to be. 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: Come from North America. 103 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: Because you know better than anyone China is dominating when 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: it comes to advanced technology, when it comes to battery 105 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: war materials and making evs. 106 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: And you're about to give a major policy speech Monday 107 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: on China. 108 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: You were basically the front man under the Trump administration 109 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to talk about China. 110 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: And in twenty nineteen at. 111 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: The Woodrow Wilson Institute, you said you constantly get asked 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: are we trying to decouple from China? 113 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 2: And you said a resounding no. Is that still the case? 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: It's still the case, But we have to recognize that 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: China is the greatest economic and strategic threat of the 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: United States of America. 117 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 2: So why not decouple. 118 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: Well, because I think using access to the most powerful 119 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: economy in the world, the United States of America, is 120 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: a mean of having China end decades of trade abuses 121 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: and intellectual property theft, stop their military provocations, and end 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: the human rights abuses that we've been witnessed of with 123 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: regard to Muslim leger As Christian pastors, it should be 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: the objective in the goal of the United States. But 125 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: everything begins with strength. And I'll actually return to the 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: Hudston suit where I gave actually the very first speech 127 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: on changing our administration's policy towards China many years ago, 128 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: and I'm going to say, then it all begins with 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: not just rebuilding our military, but building a military fitted 130 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: to the widening challenges in the Asia. Pacific and around 131 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: the wider world. I want to build a three hundred 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: and fifty five ship navy by the. 133 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: End of the decade. 134 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: I believe the United States of America can eclipse the 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: Chinese Navy and the Asia Pacific, and that'll send a 136 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: decisive message that we are going to ensure freedom of navigation. 137 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: We're going to ensure that our treaty allies in the 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: Regent I have the support that they need. Look, I've 139 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: met President she I've sized him up as a person individually. 140 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: I've told him some things that he didn't want to hear, 141 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: and we've spoken plainly at conferences about the interests of 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: our respective notions. China only understands strength, and if I'm 143 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: President of the United States, We're going to meet that 144 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: moment with American strength. But we're also going to use 145 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: access to this the most powerful economy in the world, 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: as a means of bringing China forward, just like we 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: did Anne Marie with the Phase one trade deal in 148 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. People long since forgotten it, and by all accounts, 149 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: Joe Biden hasn't held China to. 150 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: Their word with the Phase one trade deal. 151 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: Well, we put two hundred and fifty billion dollars in 152 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: tariffs on China, and literally almost overnight, they were at 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: the negotiating table saying, how do we figure something out? 154 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: And we did a phase one trade deal where they 155 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: made commitments to agricultural goods, to manufactured goods, to dealing 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: with trade abuses. I think Joe Biden and his administration 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: have largely dropped the ball. Now, the other piece of this, 158 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: I believe in free trade with free nations, and the 159 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: other piece of this is we ought to be working 160 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: on a free trade agreement with Japan. We ought to 161 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: be looking to strengthen trading relationships with free countries across 162 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: the Asia Pacific. 163 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: It's part and parce of what we'll talk about. 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 6: Let's talk about trade with China. 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: Now we've seen what China is capable of with this 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: recent revelation of Huawei suddenly emerging with a smartphone that 167 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: includes ships that we're trying to keep away from China. 168 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: Are we dancing around the edges here? Is it possible 169 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 5: to continue compartmentalizing that relationship. I know you don't want 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 5: to decouple, but why not cut off our entire technological 171 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: relationship with Beijing? 172 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Well, look, we led the fight internationally against Huawei. So 173 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: that's a good on Western nations, and we won that fight. 174 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: If you remember the UK and other nations, we're going 175 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: all in on and the United States said it's not 176 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: going to happen. This whole issue of TikTok. I know, 177 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: I know that one of my competitors, Vekram swamme at 178 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: the Republican primary. He had rightly described TikTok as a 179 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: digital fentanyl for American youth, and this week he signed 180 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: up for TikTok. I said he'd met with one of 181 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: their executives and they changed his mind. 182 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 4: Well, they're never going to change my mind. 183 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: We shouldn't expect you on TikTok's not anytime soon. 184 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: We'll be banning TikTok. 185 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: TikTok is a platform of the communist Chinese government. They're 186 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: collecting data on Americans every single day. And I got 187 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: to tell you, I've raised three young people in this generation, 188 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 3: all right. Two of their families are in the armed services. 189 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: And what young Americans deserve to know is that their 190 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,119 Speaker 3: privacy is being compromised with participation in the TikTok platform. 191 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: We've got to make that case. 192 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: We've got to protect privacy and the intellectual property rights 193 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: of Americans. 194 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: When you give this speech, are you're going to outline 195 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: more tariff because you're talking about free trade deals with 196 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: countries like Japan. Well, what does that mean for the 197 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: record trade the United States has with Beijing? 198 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think what we're going to do is lay 199 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: out a vision for giving China an opportunity to join 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: the Family of Nations and respect the international rules of 201 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: the road. 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: As I like to say, but I. 203 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: Really do believe that it begins with American strength. I mean, 204 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: we've gone through a period of time where we're trying 205 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: to flew a balloon over strategic you know, facilities in 206 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: North America, and at the same time, their ships are 207 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: cutting off our ships in the Asia Pacific aircraft cutting 208 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: off American aircraft on patrol near Taiwan. That's got to stop, 209 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: and it stops when they see that America's not doing 210 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: what Joe Biden has done over the last two and 211 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: a half years, which is make every effort try and 212 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: cut military spending. I mean a lot of people don't 213 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: know this recent debt ceiling deal. If they don't pass 214 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: all of their thirteen bills, which looks more in doubt 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: every day it's a one percent cut in military. 216 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: Republicans who voted against even debating the defense budget on the. 217 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: House floor, and it's this president that actually asked for 218 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 5: additional Pentagon funding that appears to be Well. 219 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: Look, what I've seen from this administration early on is 220 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: a consistent effort to cut military spending. When they did 221 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: that Omnibus bill at the end of the Democrat control 222 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: of Congress a half a year ago, they were able 223 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: to backfill those cuts. 224 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: But look, it's like I've said. 225 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: When we came in in twenty seventeen, we had to 226 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: rebuild a military after years of budget cuts under the 227 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: Obama Biden administration. But my vision is going to be 228 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: we don't need to rebuild a military. We need to 229 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: build a military fitted to the widening challenges. War raging 230 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: in Eastern Europe, China continuing to menace in the Asia Pacific. 231 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: Will have peace through strength and will also ensure prosperity. 232 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 6: There projecting American power. 233 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 5: We talked to Senator Tommy Tubberville just two days ago 234 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 5: about his blockade on military promotions. We're hearing a lot 235 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: of people suggest that that is weakening our posture and 236 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: in fact, impacting military readiness. This is, of course, in 237 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: protest the Pentagon's abortion policy. I know you said in 238 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: a town hall the other night that you would not 239 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: ask Tommy Tubberville to step down or stand down, but 240 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: you would ask the Pentagon to stand down on this. 241 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: What about military families, You know a lot about this. 242 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: You have a son who's a Marine Corps pilot. Military 243 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: families who might be in temporary housing, their kids are 244 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: waiting to go to school. They're not getting the pay 245 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: increase that they were waiting for. That's tied up in 246 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 5: a confirmation vote at some point. 247 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 6: Is that just the cost the sacrifice of being in 248 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 6: the military. 249 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: Well, I've got a son of the military and a 250 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: son in law. Yeah, So don't leave anybody out. 251 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: I'll be out in trouble. 252 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 6: God. 253 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: Look, President of the United States, I'm going to look 254 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: across the river at the Pentagon and I'm going to 255 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,479 Speaker 3: say stand down on playing politics. 256 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: Okay. 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean, the Supreme Court of the United States returned 258 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: the question of abortion to the States and the American people. 259 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: States have adopted pro life laws. It is not the 260 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: place of the Pentagon to use taxpayer dollars to undermine 261 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: state pro life laws around the country. There's nothing that 262 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: restricts military personnel from taking leave, traveling wherever they want 263 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 3: to travel, and obtaining healthcare services. I'm pro life, I 264 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: don't apologize for it. But the issue here is taxpayer funding, 265 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: and it's part and parcel. It seems to me Joe 266 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: of kind of this liberal and oftentimes woke politics that's 267 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: made its way into the hallways at the Pentagon. If 268 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: I'm president of the United States, We're going to have 269 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: a Secretary of Defense, We're going to have chairman of 270 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: the Joint Chiefs of Staff that focus on the mission, 271 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: but on the larger question of life. It is something 272 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: that separates me from other candidates in the Republican field, 273 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: with maybe one exception, I mean the former president. Other 274 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: candidates in this race want to relegate the question of 275 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: abortion to the States only, and I'm one of the 276 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: few leading candidates. 277 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: It's actually called. 278 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: For a minimum national standard. I think we ought to 279 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: align the laws across this country with most of Europe. 280 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: Most of Europe limits abortion after fifteen weeks, but. 281 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: There are exceptions. 282 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: We could be four exceptions, life of the mother, fetal issues. 283 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: And Marie, if you check my record in Congress. I 284 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: always recognized receptions in cases of rape incests, life of 285 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: the mother. But I just think looking today at we've 286 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: made great progress. I speak as a pro life American 287 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: in states around the country, but I think there's a 288 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: case that seven out of ten Americans agree with me. 289 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: According to Poles, that at the moment at which an 290 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,479 Speaker 3: unborn child can experience pain, we at a limit abortions 291 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: after that, that's roughly about fifteen weeks. And as president 292 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: of the United States, unlike Donald Trump, unlike other leading 293 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: candidates in this primary, I'll be a champion of the 294 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: right to life in that national standard. 295 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: But back to Senator Turberville, Should one senator have this 296 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: power to undermine what people I'm hearing? I mean, General 297 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly says that you're hearing champagne bottles hit the 298 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: ceilings at the Chinese Embassy in Washington, d c Up 299 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: Connecticut Avenue because of what he's doing to undermine US 300 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: military preparedness. 301 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: Should one senator have that power? 302 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: And you seem to be a defense hawk, aren't you 303 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: concerned this is undermining national security? 304 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: It's the reason why I would i was president of 305 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: the United States. 306 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: I tell the Pentagon to stand down, stop playing politics 307 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: with this. But look, the other thing is, come on, 308 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: Senator Schumer can just bring Senator Turberville's bill to the floor. 309 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: Depentagon unilaterally decided to start using taxpayer dollars to pay 310 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: for members of the Armed Services to travel out of 311 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: state to see an abortion. That ought to be something 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: that Congress talks about in debates. 313 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: It's the use of taxpayer dollars. 314 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: And it used to be one of the things that 315 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: we agreed on in Congress in a broad and bipartisan basis, 316 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: was whatever your view of abortion, you recognize that it 317 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: was simply wrong to take the taxpayer dollars of millions 318 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: of pro life Americans and use it to subsidize abortion. 319 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: That's the same principle. Chuck Schumer could put that bill 320 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: on the floor tomorrow, vote it and let the votes 321 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: be counted, and the policy will be said at the Pentagon. 322 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: But we just got to get the politics out of 323 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: the Pentagon. If I'm President of the United States, I 324 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: promise you I will, because a good part about the 325 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: Pentagon different from Congress is they take orders. 326 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this philosophically, then you have famously 327 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 5: said that you are first a Christian, then a Conservative, 328 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: and then a Republican. 329 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 6: In that order, in that order. 330 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: So would your north star be your faith, your Christianity 331 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: and making other decisions in the olah. 332 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: Well, it would guide the way that I deal with others. 333 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm someone that believes that civility is essential democracy. Well, 334 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: when it comes to the right to life, Joe, that's 335 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: that's where my pro life views spring from. 336 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: The Bible says before I formed you in the womb, 337 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: I knew you. 338 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I said before you life and death, blessings 339 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: and curses. Now choose life. 340 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 5: So that's your one exception when it comes to your Christians. 341 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: But on a broad range of issues, well, that that 342 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 3: informs my faith, I think more than anything else. I 343 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: hear people across Iowa, across New Hampshire who want to 344 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: see us restore a threshold of civility in public life, 345 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: to get back to treating others the way we want 346 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: to be treated, which is at the very core of 347 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: my faith. And you all known me for more than 348 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: a few years. You know I'm a conservative, but I'm 349 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: not in a bad mood about it. People that knew 350 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: me in Congress. 351 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Conservative because you feel like populism has taken control. 352 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Of your party. 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 4: No, it's a different issue. 354 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: I just me. 355 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: I think you get fifteen miles out of Washington, d C. 356 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: The people of this country actually get along pretty well. 357 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: It's our politics as deeply divided as it is today, 358 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: and I think the American people long to see our 359 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: politics reclaim the kind of civility that most Americans show 360 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: each other every day. Look, we're a nation of diverse 361 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: views and diverse opinions. And as my late father, a 362 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: combat vetter and used to say, I may disagree with 363 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: what you say, but I'll fight to the death for 364 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: you right to say it will defend the freedom and 365 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: the liberties of every American. But I think the American 366 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: people want us to get back to more respect in Washington, 367 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: d C. The same kind they show each other every day. 368 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: Joe brought up Christianity. 369 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: And there's another man of faith who had some interesting 370 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: words that we're learning how to say about you, Centermt Romney. 371 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: He's retiring. 372 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: There's this new biography out about him, and an excerpt 373 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: this is what was said Romney. He had long been 374 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: put off by Pence's pious brand of trump psycho fancy 375 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: no one, he told me, has been more loyal, more 376 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: willing to smile when he saw absurdities, more willing to 377 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: ascribe God's will to things that were ungodly than Mike Pence. 378 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: He is deeply religious. What would you say to him. 379 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't know what I what I ascribed to. 380 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: He wasn't there, he was. He's entitled his own opinion. 381 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: But I'm proud of the record of the Trump Pens administration. 382 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: I'm proud of what we did for the right to life, 383 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: for religious liberty. I'm proud of how we revived our economy. 384 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm proud of how we rebuild our military, and the 385 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 3: greatest honor in my life to have served as vice president. 386 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: And I know he's had his problems with the president, 387 00:19:53,680 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: but I'm very confident that we were where we were 388 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: called to be during those four years. 389 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: But now you know, I'm. 390 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: Running for president because I think different times call for 391 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: different leadership, and not just different style of leadership. But 392 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: as I said last week in New Hampshire, you know, 393 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: when Donald Trump ran for president, he promised to govern 394 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: as a conservative, and we did for four years. But 395 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: Donald Trump makes no such promise today. In fact, I 396 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: see him walking away from American leadership on the world stage, 397 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 3: talking the language of appeasement. When it comes to the 398 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 3: war raging in Eastern Europe, Joe Biden's policy on entitlements 399 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: is insolvency. He won't even talk about it. Donald Trump's 400 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: position is the same as Joe Biden's. And when it 401 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: comes to the right to life, Donald Trump and others 402 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: in this race want to marginalize the right to life 403 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: to a states only issue. So my message to people 404 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: is that because of the experience I had at the 405 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: White House and as a governor and as a leader 406 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: in the Congress of the United States, I believe I'm 407 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: the most qualified, the most tested, and the most experienced, 408 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: and the most ready conservative in this race. 409 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 5: It were called a rather unique position on January sixth. 410 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 5: And you have said recently that Donald Trump asked you 411 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 5: to put him over the Constitution. 412 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 6: You chose not to. 413 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: But Vice President Pence, were there other times that Donald 414 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: Trump tried to put himself over the Constitution when he 415 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 5: may not have asked for your help that you witnessed 416 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: in the White House. 417 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: I. 418 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: Don't believe. 419 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: So. I believe that January sixth was a tragic day 420 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: and the President was surrounded by a gaggle of crackpot lawyers. 421 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: It should have never been allowed on the White House grounds. 422 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: They told him things that just simply weren't so. But 423 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 3: I think all along the way in our administration we 424 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: kept faith with the American people with the agenda we 425 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: ran on. My differences with the president today are they 426 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: remain over that day. I mean, I'll always believe, by 427 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: God's grace, I did my duty under the Constitution that day, 428 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: And as I travel around the country, there's almost not 429 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: a day goes by that someone Republican's independence. Even many 430 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: Democrats stop me and thank me for just keeping my 431 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: oath to the Constitution. But I have other differences with 432 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: the former president, and they have to do with the 433 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: direction of the country. 434 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: I think this country's in a lot of trouble. I 435 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: think Joe Biden. 436 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: Has weakened our nation on the world stage. I think 437 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's economic policies have failed people from Detroit to 438 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: all across this country. 439 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: And what we need to do. 440 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: Is return to those time honored, time tested, common sense 441 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: conservative policies that I've always been about in the course 442 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: of my life. In the career, if I'm President of 443 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: the United States. 444 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: I know we will we have. 445 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: Under a minute, So this is a quick yes or no. 446 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: What's raging in Washington now is whether or not we're 447 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: going to have a government shutdown. 448 00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: What's your take? 449 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, as you know, I was a House Conservative before 450 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: it was cool. I mean, I remember when we dug 451 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: in in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and demanded that 452 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: there would be offsets to pay for that. So I 453 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: think it's important that how Republicans take a strong stand. 454 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: But let's be clear that whatever's accomplished in this moment, 455 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: it's still just going to be nickels and dimes, but 456 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: Ukraine funding against the massive debt crisis that our nation 457 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: is facing. And I'm the first candidate and one of 458 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: the only candidates for presidents said I'm going to be 459 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 3: willing to lead our nation forward on common sense and 460 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: compassionate reforms of entitlements and save this in future generations, 461 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: Preserve Social Security and Medica. Today, let's save our kids 462 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: from a debt crisis that threatens our futures. 463 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: Their Vice President, thank you for coming to see us. 464 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: How about we meet in Iowa. Former Vice President Mike 465 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 5: Pence with us here on Bloomberg. 466 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 6: Thanks for the time, sir,