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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy six,

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Speaker 1: Episode four of Darnley's Ie Geist Day production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, February twenty fourth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brian ak. It's Walton Goggins.

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Speaker 1: Here another aunt manfo. I don't enjoy that thought, big

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Speaker 1: white teeth and really tame. Look at this nogging here

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Speaker 1: five head above my nose? How about John Mayer instead?

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Speaker 1: My plumpers are a wonderland that is courtesy of Salvador

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Speaker 1: Jolly to the tune of Hotton here by Nelly in

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Speaker 1: case that wasn't clear, and in reference to the fact

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Speaker 1: that somebody gave me a Walton Goggins look like and

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Speaker 1: it ruined my day one time. So fair. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by very special guest co hosts,

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Speaker 1: an award winning podcast post writer, producer, TV and Telmacker

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Speaker 1: voice artist. It's Jai Jack. Can you handle this? Zich Gang?

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Speaker 1: Can you handle this? Jackies? Can you handle this? I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can handle this? Oh barely move I've

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Speaker 1: arrived looking sexy. Yes, I'm fly Fatness dude Zy gang

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Speaker 1: aside DJ jam tonight. I don't think you're ready for this, Jelly.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're ready for this because my voice

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Speaker 1: is so bootylicious. Boy your baby, Oh what up, niggas?

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Speaker 1: We are here, We are back. Hello everyone. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're ready for this, Jeal. Think we are in

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Speaker 1: rare form today. It is Black History Months. Still, it

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Speaker 1: is So History month. That's far. So let's have a

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Speaker 1: moment of silence, every white person listening, have a moment

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Speaker 1: of silence. Right now, fall your black falling hero, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: right now, right now, right now. Hi there it is.

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Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing good? You know. It's good

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Speaker 1: to be back. Can't complain. It's frigid and Los Angeles, bro.

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Speaker 1: I was at the gym, and I'm sure you know

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Speaker 1: this too. Yeah, Perhack went getting these muscles right for

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Speaker 1: the summer, and it started hailing like crazy. Did you

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Speaker 1: hear that? I did? I didn't hear it, but that

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Speaker 1: that makes sense given what the weather is outside. Ella. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just yeah, we all text each other when it

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Speaker 1: hails once and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. Man. I was on the ground doing something

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Speaker 1: like some some hinges or some shit or some leg

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Speaker 1: for us, and it started hailing, and I thought it

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Speaker 1: was like a thousand rats, like fucking on the ground,

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Speaker 1: like running toy. I got scared, man. I started looking around, like,

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Speaker 1: what is the happening? That's how, that's how we're such

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Speaker 1: a city. Just such a city must be rats. Yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well jackis. We're thrilled to be joined in our third

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Speaker 1: and fourth seats by the hosts of the new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Digital Folklore. Please welcome, Perry Carpenter and Mason Amadeus. Welcome Man.

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Speaker 1: I was not told to prepare a musical intro like that.

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Speaker 1: You two just killed. It was amazing. Thank you. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Your name together is Perry Mason. I think you win,

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Speaker 1: you win, Yeah, you win. We're Jack Jackis it sounds

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Speaker 1: like somebody, Yes, it sounds like an impressionist painter or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah. That should command some high dollar.

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe I should move to Paris or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, so you guys, what's uh? Tell

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Speaker 1: us what digital folklore is about? Spooky spooky Internet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a It started out as the

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Speaker 1: into this deep dive of Internet culture and all of

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Speaker 1: the different art that we sort of collaboratively create on

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Speaker 1: the Internet, from things like slender Man to all the

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Speaker 1: way about like the study of memes and how that

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Speaker 1: affects sociology and like meme warfare and why that's the

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Speaker 1: thing an astroturfing. So it started out as a concept

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Speaker 1: that was just like, let's talk about spooky stories, but

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Speaker 1: we've dove into like the academic side. But the thing

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Speaker 1: that's weird about it is that we decided to make

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Speaker 1: of like if you're it's like watching Scooby Doo if

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Speaker 1: Scooby Doo is a documentary. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: sound design and like a narrative thing and then also

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Speaker 1: expert interviews. It's kind of weird, but it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah, hard harder to explain than to listen to. No,

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Speaker 1: that sounds right, Scooby Doo is all you have to say, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is what is the spookiest story that you've had

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Speaker 1: when you start to when you start to dive into folklore,

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Speaker 1: you don't really think about it, but you do get

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Speaker 1: into all of these weird things, everything from the really

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Speaker 1: dark stuff like that all the way up to cat

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Speaker 1: memes too. Yeah, things like what people think about isis

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Speaker 1: and whether they're going to invade your neighborhood or not. Yeah, Perry,

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Speaker 1: if you have a problem with me, take it up

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Speaker 1: with my boss the Pope. That's all. I'm from the

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Speaker 1: new Popeist film Russell Crowe. We're all very excited about

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Speaker 1: that line in particularly imagine. Yeah, that is phenomenal. Take

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Speaker 1: it up with my boss the Pope. How about how

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Speaker 1: about this AI? Should Are you guys gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: any of the AI stuff on anger? Overrated? Underrated? Should? I? Sure?

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Speaker 1: I let you talk about that then or now, because

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Speaker 1: I am curious to hear what you have to say

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Speaker 1: about people New York Times journalist writing cover articles where

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Speaker 1: they're like, you, guys, I think this AI is trying

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Speaker 1: means Alan iverson the answer, yeahs okay, that's what I

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Speaker 1: That would be like if, like, you know, we decided

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Speaker 1: So journalists think chat GPT is like trying to like

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Speaker 1: They were like, she wanted me to leave my wife

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Speaker 1: and she was trying to fuck me. Are you guys?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys into that? Like? Does that? Does that

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Speaker 1: ai quote unquote revolution and what the what the promises

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Speaker 1: wants either, Right, Yeah, yeah, I did you see that

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Speaker 1: am I the Asshole? And so you can go in

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Speaker 1: You guys seen that movie? I have seen all the

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Speaker 1: You know, if I'm trying to trick somebody, how do

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Speaker 1: This can instantly just trying to get under Mason's skin

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Speaker 1: because you never see anyone in there. But yeah, I mean,

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00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think sometimes we forget because you know,

422
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: I will, at least me and Jack live on the coast.

423
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: You know. It's a social media world and the and

424
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: the young folks push the current, you know, envelope. But

425
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: old people still exist, man, you know, yeah, it's still

426
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: owed here man. And like, it's not that long ago

427
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: when vacuums was everybody had one. I mean we're talking

428
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty years ago where every household had a vacuum.

429
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: So like, and I'm saying that because I usually agree

430
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: with you, like Mason, where I'm like, why does it

431
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: still exist? And it hits me it was like, well,

432
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: you know it really was. I was, it wasn't. I mean, shit,

433
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: I had a VCR twenty years ago. Yeah, yeah, what

434
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: a time. Yeah. I mean I still have multiple vacuums

435
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: because they always break. But the idea that you would

436
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: have a store that specializes in it is I like,

437
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: it just feels like it exists outside of It's like

438
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: a pre not just pre like Walmart pre Kmart, like

439
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: time pre years, you know, whereas like I gotta pitch, Harry,

440
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: I gotta pitch, Yeah you got vacuum cleaner. Yeah, but

441
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: it's not even door to door. I guess maybe they

442
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't. They're never actually open, so they do it

443
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: by appointment only, and then I guess they do door

444
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: to door, and then like repairs, I got a busy day,

445
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: I gotta go to the knife store, and then I

446
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: gotta go to the spoon store all the way across town.

447
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, school of these each of these

448
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 1: places always run by some guy who has mysteriously been

449
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: seventy five since the eighties. Right, yeah, it's the same guy. Yeah. Now,

450
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: I can just imagine, like at that Apple store they've

451
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: got the Genius Bar, and at best Buy they've got

452
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: the you know, the whole geek center or whatever, what

453
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: would you call the bar of people that just specialize

454
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: in vacuums. And I can think also inappropriate names, but

455
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the suckers, Yeah, suckers there it is. Yeah, all right, Mason,

456
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: how about you? What's something that you think is over it?

457
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: This is an easy one, hopefully brand name pop Tarts.

458
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: I've just like, I'm not a huge consumer of pop tarts,

459
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: but my friend pointed this out to me and I

460
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: tested it. Brand name pop tarts have gone way downhill,

461
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: and store brand pop tarts still absolutely rip. There's like

462
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: way more filling, way more flavor. It's it's it's interesting.

463
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: Should try. Oh so like the like kmart brand, the

464
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: Ralph's brand pop tarts are better than the Kelloggs. Yeah,

465
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: like the like the o G Kelloggs pop tarts are

466
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: really not good and store brand is where it's at

467
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: on those. I agree with this. I don't have pop tarts,

468
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: but like that's the case for everything that like Kelloggs

469
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: makes that or like anything that the companies will make

470
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: that's better made by people who don't have to mass produce,

471
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: are always been like yeah, fucking rice Chrispy treats, Like

472
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: the package ones suck. They suck compared to like a

473
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: homemade rice Chrispy treat or one of those ones as

474
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: wrapped in like the plastic wrapping. Yeah, those are always

475
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: better than like the actual like Kelloggs Rice Chrispy treats.

476
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: This is troubling to me because Kelloggs is a massive

477
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: corporation and I just I thought that was the best

478
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: way to ensure quality. So I'm gonna have to. I mean,

479
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: they also sponsored this podcast, so yeah, yeah, and this

480
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: is all getting edited out, but that's good. It's good.

481
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: It allows me to get to know you better. Mason.

482
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: Mason wants something you think is underrated. Elastic in waste

483
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: bands and socks. Okay, because like it was. I found

484
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: out recently. It was invented in like the thirties and

485
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: forty And I can't imagine waking up every day and

486
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: having to tie my underwear on and clip on sock garters.

487
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: And there's like nothing better than I like tall socks,

488
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: and like that feeling when you have a sock pulled

489
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: all the way up is just awesome. And I just

490
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: feel like I haven't appreciated that enough. Yeah, it's just

491
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: they invented a thing that hugs you. Yeah, and we

492
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: take it for granted. But like you know, it wasn't

493
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: that long ago in the thirties and forties when underwear

494
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: literally had button and buttons and ties on it. Yeah,

495
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It seems these are my regular suspenders, and

496
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: these are my underwear suspenders, and yeah, yeah, everything is

497
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: just held up by a series of clips. Yeah, that's amazing.

498
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: The thirties and like before that, Yeah, you see a

499
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: lot of belts and strange undergarments that look like you

500
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: were in traction like underneath your clothing. Yeah. Yeah, it

501
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: also makes probably a little down the road for you,

502
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: but it makes getting your kids dressed much easier. Getting

503
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: kids must have been a nightmare. Like that's why they

504
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: just all wore like a burlap sack back in the day. What, Perry,

505
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: what is something that you think is underrated? I'm also

506
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: going to go with a clothing item. Okay, So, and

507
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: I came to appreciate it recently because I just turned

508
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: fifty a few months ago, and I remember back probably

509
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: when I was Mason's age, somebody said, never skimp on

510
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: anything that separates you from the earth. And I've realized

511
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: recently that shoes and good shoes are way underrated. I

512
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: want to shoe with it, Like when I take it

513
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: off at the end of the day, I don't feel

514
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: like my back and my feet my legs are gonna,

515
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, killing me. But I you know, I would

516
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: maybe generalize and just say anything that separates us from

517
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: the ground, that's a mattress, exactly grounded. Um No, I

518
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: think it was it was somebody that had way more

519
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: money than me, and he was talking about like why

520
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: he bought a real the expensive car. So he was

521
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: justifying that he's like anything that separates me from the earth,

522
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to spend a lot of money on so

523
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: that it's it's reliable, but I come to appreciate it

524
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: with just like shoes, I just wanted shoes that don't hurt.

525
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: I just lost a sneaker auction this morning, so I

526
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: agree with you trying to trying to get those Jordans threes.

527
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: The three to the three is the white cement threes

528
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: that they drive. I saw that. I saw that, and

529
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I just sh super bowser. Justin got

530
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Justin Justin gets ever gets you every the only person

531
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: who actually gets like wins the sneaker. Oh Justin, I'm

532
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: gonna Justin, what's the addressed man? Yeah, you're just gonna

533
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: need to wear fourteen pairs of socks because he wears

534
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: like five size is bigger than any of us. I

535
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: love it all right, Well, those those are great. I

536
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: do feel like I know you gets better. Let's get

537
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: into some news. Fox pissed about Lego toys that promote diversity.

538
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Lego Go Woke is the headline, and they're like one

539
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: will have a missing limb, another down syndrome. These are

540
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: really important issues. Sarcasm, but this is I mean, I

541
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: don't even know if this is like actual. It feels

542
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: like faux outrage, and it's just like this is something

543
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: that is based on a They're like a deep Lego

544
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: study that they did in two parents and children and

545
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: the results were like, ninety seven percent of parents believe

546
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: it is important to discuss unique individualities between us all

547
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: mental health, physical disabilities. Eighty two percent like that they

548
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: could use more diversity in the toys. Parents said that

549
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: three and four children felt that there were not enough

550
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: toys with characters that represented them, and similarly, eight and

551
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: ten children would like there to be more toys with

552
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: character who look like them. So yeah, it's they're just

553
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: asking children what they want and the children are telling them,

554
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: and then foxes like, fuck, we're screwed. So I don't

555
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. I don't know what they're

556
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, my legos didn't have limbs back

557
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: in eighty six. You know, I was taking off the

558
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: legs and shit off my Legos and all my action

559
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: figures and toys. Yeah, for thirty six years, man, So

560
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: this ain't new. This ain't new. Also, I think I

561
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: think over over the past couple of years, maybe a

562
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: year or so, I have come to realize what Fox

563
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: News truly is. And and this isn't anything I'm not

564
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: about to say anything groundbreaking or anything that hasn't been said,

565
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: but it because we've known it. But it was a

566
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: realization outside of half the things that will make you

567
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: enraged because they are promoting underlying racism, homophobic, you know, feelings,

568
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: transphobic feelings, just hatred in general, and people buy into

569
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: it and believing and put it out in the world.

570
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: It's fucking it's entertainment. It is It is pure entertainment.

571
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: And we've always known this, but I think we have

572
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: to start looking at this a little bit further. Like

573
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm an actor, I'm on TV shows. I'm on shows

574
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: with writer's rooms, Like Fox has a writer's room, I

575
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: believe and they and they literally and if anybody doesn't

576
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: know how a writer's room works, like you literally break

577
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: story for an episode of season characters, I truly believe

578
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: they have a writer's room and they are literally pitching

579
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: things like a television sitcom writer's room and saying, what

580
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: can we put out there that is going to keep

581
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: bringing in these ratings because our viewers are stupid, just

582
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: like a television show says, what can we put out there?

583
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, because our television viewers want to see drama,

584
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: high school drama, you know, like street drama, cop drama.

585
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: And I think when I started looking at it like that,

586
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I appreciate flax news because

587
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: that's the wrong word, but like I find flax news

588
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: more funny than than enraging. Yeah, because it is true.

589
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: It is. It's a it's a television show. It's a

590
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: television show from ten am to ten am to ten pm.

591
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Like that's all it is. It's crazy, it's insane. Yeah,

592
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: the convergence with the onion almost yeah, yeah, just straight up.

593
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean they they make the argument when they're talking

594
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: to advertisers like, well, these types of shows that have

595
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: like have speak while they're read in the face about

596
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: a lego that makes a child with down syndrome feel

597
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: better about themselves like that, They have said like those

598
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: are our entertainment shows, like we those aren't real news.

599
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: The problem is just like the people who watch it,

600
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: I think it's real news and it's breaking real news problem. Yeah,

601
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean that's not to absolve them with any culpability

602
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: though they don't really do a good job separating in

603
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: any way. They don't don't try at all, you know.

604
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: I think it's it's really really funny to see how

605
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: much the media today just tries to capitalize on enraging people,

606
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: getting really strong emotions, getting people glued because they just

607
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: want to see what the person's going to say next,

608
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: and you end up with these weird kind of they're

609
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: not made up stories, but the outrage has to be

610
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: made up around something like this. It's you have a

611
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: data driven story where with a company that's trying to

612
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: figure out how to build products to an audience that's

613
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: going to purchase them, and then you're saying that it's

614
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: because of they've got some kind of long term political

615
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: ideology objective that would only pay off in twenty to

616
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: thirty years. Leko doesn't care about your political ideology twenty

617
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: to thirty years from now. They care about the money

618
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna make in the next six months. I guess

619
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: the irony is there madic capitalism. Right. They seem madic

620
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: capitalism a lot, and seem to be like reinventing communism

621
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: in their own like weird way where they're like, well,

622
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: now we can only use megamobile, like you know, like

623
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: some really broken ass version of regular mobile phones. It's

624
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: like the only child's version of communism, right, exactly right. Also,

625
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and jump on

626
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: the bandwagon to say, downward Legos, let's bring back Connects.

627
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Anybody recall yeah, let's bring back in next. You know,

628
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: if Fox was like, you know what, won't like these

629
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: wolke as Legos, Let's bring back Connects, I might tune

630
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: in for a minute. Let's bring back all Wooden toys too.

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Speaker 1: I've just begun to grapple with the depth of the

632
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Lego domination that has happened in our culture like that,

633
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: because my kids just like start getting as Star Wars

634
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: and they're at an age where like they can't watch

635
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: all of the movies, and but there is an entire

636
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: series of like Lego animated Star Wars movies that are

637
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: just like comedic. They are spoofs of like the Star

638
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Wars movies that are like good they're they're leg are good,

639
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: They're good like and it's like, how did they get

640
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: to do this? Like this is every filmmaker's dream to

641
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: just get to do like a beat by beat spoof

642
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: of like the biggest movies of all time, and it's

643
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: it happens to be Lego. And now like my kids

644
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: obsessions are Star Wars and Lego. Of course, have they

645
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: played the Lego video games? Now we don't do video games. Okay, yeah,

646
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: they're they're done, just like the movies. They're so good.

647
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool. Can I ask you all a question

648
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: because I I real quick on the Lego matter, not

649
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: the Fox News Lego matter, but just Legos in general.

650
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: And I want to know if it was just me

651
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: so I like, over the past like fifteen years, I

652
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: feel like Legos and kids that play with Legos are

653
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: more building actual like Lego sets like Star Wars with cities,

654
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: And I want to know if it was just because

655
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: we were broken poor growing up or was it not

656
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: that big of a thing to build. Say, you just

657
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: had a bunch of fucking Legos and you build whatever

658
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: the fuck you wanted with them. Yeah, yeah, when we

659
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: were kids, And now they're like no, build a city,

660
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: build the London Bridge, Like, yeah, is that new or

661
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: is that something that has always been the case. I

662
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: feel like it's gotta be. I grew up. I grew

663
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: up kind of portant. I think I built a Lego

664
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: set once. But yeah, you just smashed them together and

665
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you felt, Like, Yeah, I remember we

666
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: used to build cars that didn't have wheels, wrap them

667
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: in printer paper and then drive them around on the

668
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: floor and smash them into each other. Like that's what

669
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: Legos were for. Yeah, well it takes too much patients

670
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: to build by the kid. But have you noticed, like

671
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: over the past twenty years, they've got like these Lego

672
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: architecture kits. Now they're really really detailed, like reproductions of

673
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: real buildings and city scapes, and they're they're not meant

674
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: to be sold to kids. Really, They're meant to be

675
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: sold to forty year olds with a lot of disposable

676
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: income and too much time on their hands. I think

677
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: that's what's happened is they've they've introduced a new consumer

678
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: market for Legos, which is like adults who used to

679
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 1: be like, why would I play with Legos? I'm too busy?

680
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: You know, reading the newspaper and smoking a pipe. And

681
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: now instead of that, like adults play with Lego, so

682
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: like you, they build they have these sets. But like

683
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: my kids, you know, they'll get a set like or

684
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: like a you know, a Lego thing that you're supposed

685
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: to build by the directions. They'll build it once and

686
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: then it, like you know, over the course of two days, disintegrates,

687
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: and a pile of Legos that they're like turning into

688
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: all sorts of ye monstrosities, which you know, I feel.

689
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: I think I think the exception is the kids that

690
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: would get like the Millennium Falcon set, you know, back

691
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: in the day, and would actually put it together. Keep it, yeah, yeah,

692
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: keep it as the millennium. And and now you see

693
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: people on social media like do it as stunts where

694
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: they break those things apart. And I think if I

695
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: spent the thousand hours or whatever that that took to

696
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: put together, I'd need a lot of helpmeet and and

697
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: comfort after that happened. I just remember that when I

698
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: was a kid, we never actually had Legos. We had

699
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Mega blocks. Remember that. I don't know how that was

700
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: legal because that's an exact clone of Legos, But I

701
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: remember that was that was the thing. Mega blocks are

702
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: incompatible though, so they can't be in exact that somebody's

703
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: messed with the scaling. No, they definitely they fit into it.

704
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: Not the big ones, but they were they were like

705
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: little yeah, yeah, oh, I only knew mega blocks is

706
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: like the big the big guys, the big bubbly one.

707
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: But maybe it was called something else. I'd like some bootleggs, hydrocks,

708
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: legos or not hydrucks, because Oreo was actually a bootleg

709
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: of hydrucks. But yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll

710
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: come back. We'll try and rip through some news stories

711
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: and we're back. And Pete Botaja finally visited East Palestine, Ohio,

712
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: but somehow allowed Trump to beat him and Biden there

713
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: and like score some political points in the process just

714
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: by showing up. Boota Jag had previously said he would

715
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: visit when the time was right, and then he just

716
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: like never went until now only moved up his visit

717
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: to Thursday after Trump announced he was heading there. And obviously,

718
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: like Trump doesn't give a shit about these people. And

719
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: we'll get to the detail in a moment that really

720
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: locks that in. But it is kind of a frustrating

721
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: fuck up by the Democrats when when we're facing down,

722
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, the possibility of another Trump administration, which seems

723
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: just like unthinkable at this point. And I think a

724
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: lot of people have tricked themselves into thinking that it's

725
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: unthinkable and would never happen, and DeSantis would at least

726
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: be the option. But I think they are fooling themselves

727
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, and that we need to be a

728
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: little bit where you're here, As though DeSantis has an

729
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: option is at all comforting. Yeah, but yeah, So Trump

730
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: used the horrific situation to promote his bottled water brand,

731
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: handing out. He was handing out a lot of Maga

732
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: hats and how to press conference where he bragged about

733
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: how he was donating Trump brand bottle water along with

734
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: some other bottles of water, which he stressed were inferior.

735
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: You want to get those Trump bottles, I think is

736
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: a direct quote. So it's just I swear he's the fake.

737
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: He's so fucking funny, He's so funny, so upset. I

738
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: just is so upset because the ship he does is

739
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: straight SNL sketches, is so funny. I think it makes

740
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: me so mad. Yeah, of course he side step questions

741
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: about the fact that he had rolled back Obama's rules

742
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: are requiring advanced breaking technology on trains transporting particularly hazardous material.

743
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: So like just colossal fuck up. That is like going

744
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: to lead to many people dying. And then he's up

745
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: there just being like a Michael Scott esque buffoon and

746
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: being just cheered on. But people, so yeah, that that happened,

747
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna want those Trump bottles, I think, I mean

748
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: y'all gonna want the Trump bottles, the Trump bottles that

749
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: they're the greatest things that I've ever been made, haven't

750
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: made I was. So it's just it's pure genius that

751
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: like he is also selling Trump waters or giving out

752
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Trump waters, which it's just a kick back to him

753
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: that his supporters don't understand. It's just putting more money,

754
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: is it. Like, brother, you can get him some some aquafinas,

755
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, like you can give him some Nestley it's

756
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: good man, you know, or if you really want to

757
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: treat them, give him some smart water man, you know,

758
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: getting that core Trump water, you know, it is just

759
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: some third party water that has probably everybody else's different

760
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: labels smashed on it that that doesn't hotel chains and

761
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: everything else, So there's nothing that differentiates it. That's what

762
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: you would think. Actually, you would think that he was

763
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: taking bottled water quality bottles of water and putting his

764
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: name and likeness on it. But it's actually compared to

765
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: other bottled water, it's worse. It has very low mineral content.

766
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: He even though he's like, it's the best, it's the best.

767
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: It's in terms of mineral content, some of the best

768
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: spring water in the world. And somebody who works for

769
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: what is that outlet? He is a writer for Fine

770
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: Waters and author of a Connoisseur's Guide to the World's

771
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: most Distinctive Bottled Waters that Shouldn't exist. Yeah, his name

772
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: is Michael Mashka and Mascha and he's like, yeah, it's

773
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: really shitty. Like we did the mineral analysis and it's

774
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: it's just worse than other bottle. Like other bottled water

775
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: that is low quality comes from the finest ponds right

776
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: here in America, rights made in America's trump Ice. You

777
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: can only find it in at the mar Lagos. Oh,

778
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: it's so predictable, but like at the same time, like

779
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be shocking. It's so predictable. What isn't predictable?

780
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: To me is that there's a thing called a Connoisseur's

781
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Guide to the World's most Distinctive bottled Waters. That is

782
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: some real post capitalist hellscape shit. But yeah, well I

783
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: love this line in that review too, though. It so

784
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: the fact that it comes in a plastic bottle is

785
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: opposed to glass, indicates it's definitely not a luxury item. Yeah, well,

786
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: you know what, fuck you, Michael Mascha because I love

787
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: a bottled water that comes in plastic. Okay. Also, the

788
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: the you know, the real story here is, like you said, Jack,

789
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: the fact that these things shouldn't matter that you know.

790
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: First of all, Trump is a civilian, so who's fabulously wealthy.

791
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: So if anybody can make it to Ohio before the

792
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: President of the United States, it should be a civilian

793
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: who's fabulously wealthy. Maybe not so much Pete Boudhages, but

794
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, again, this man has a job. He's it

795
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: is his job. But he also has a job, and

796
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: he his thing was just h he didn't make it

797
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: a priority. But like, but we live in a world

798
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: of perception, you know, and the perception is going to

799
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: be that Trump got there first because he cares about

800
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: you know, blah, blah blah. At least that's what he knows,

801
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, that's what his team is telling him, because,

802
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: like you say, he doesn't give a shit. So it

803
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: is frustrating. It is frustrating because there are people stupid

804
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: enough to buy it. I think that's the frustrating part.

805
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's something about these situations though, that

806
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: when you're in the middle, you're the person that's responding

807
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: to this emergency, Trump coming down or Buddha, Jedge or

808
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: Biden or anybody else is a distraction. And so the

809
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: main thing that this creates is these big pr opportunities

810
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: for people that if you're not there, you're losing out.

811
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: But when you are there, you're actually causing him, sometimes

812
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: more harm than good. Right, quietly donate your garbage water

813
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: from far away. There you go, all right, Moving on

814
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: to So, there was that New York Times op ed

815
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: that was like in defense of jk Rowling. It turned out,

816
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: as we talked about, it was a it was all

817
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: promotion for a new podcast. We don't do a lot

818
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: of podcast coverage on this show. We don't like to

819
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: acknowledge that other podcasts exist. We like to pretend that

820
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: we are the only podcast, But we're gonna break the

821
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: fourth wall here and acknowledge that there are podcasts. But

822
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: besides the daily Zeitgeist, Miles and Jack got Matt Boosties,

823
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: and digital folklore that exists, there's a new one out.

824
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: It's called The Witch Trials of JK. Rowling, and it

825
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: is apparently a real piece of shit. You're going to

826
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: be surprised to learn. It's hosted by Megan Phelps Roper,

827
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: who I didn't like. The last time that I came

828
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: across her was when she was literally one of the

829
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: people outside of like military funerals with like like protesting

830
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: gay marriage. The Westboro Baptist people. Yeah, she's a Westboro Baptist,

831
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: which the Westboro Baptist people are like a family, and

832
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: she is. They were just like really good at always

833
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: being in front of media like events, and they just

834
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: really spread themselves out and that spread the hate nice

835
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: and wide. But so she was part of that family.

836
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: I remember the New Yorker profile of her where they

837
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: were like, she's starting to think that maybe this whole

838
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: thing isn't as like on the up and up as

839
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: she thought growing up, and so there was like a

840
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Speaker 1: heroic bent to it. But she's she's just a fucked

841
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Speaker 1: up person and has decided to make this show so Phelps.

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Speaker 1: Roper opens the show by comparing rallying to the victims

843
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: of literal executions. Complains about how she's now being shipped

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Speaker 1: on by Harry Potter actors, people who she'd known since

845
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Speaker 1: they were children. So like she's a victim because the

846
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Speaker 1: people who she employed as children don't like her anymore.

847
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: Apparently tragic. I know, you gotta feel for her. Yeah,

848
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: it's very sad. You may be wondering who put this

849
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: show out besides the wet Westboro Baptist Girl and JK Rowling.

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Speaker 1: It's very wise. Very Wise has a new media outlet

851
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Speaker 1: called The Free Press, and it includes articles questioning the

852
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Speaker 1: safety of COVID vaccines for children, podcast calling the discovery

853
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Speaker 1: of indigenous mass graves in Canada a hoax. Cool, great,

854
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: great and cool awesome. Yeah, nally, that's what you want

855
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: in your portfolio. Yes. The second episode of this The

856
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: Witch of JK. Rowling, is all about the nineties and

857
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: specifically the Christian backlash to Harry Potter, which is like

858
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: they they're trying to make the argument that people criticizing JK.

859
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Rowling for being like trans exclusionary, just just a monster

860
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: to trans people as they are like fighting for their

861
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: right to exist. The people criticizing her for that is

862
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: the same as people saying that Harry Potter books are

863
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: witchcraft and need to be like banned from bookstores. Just

864
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: a clear one to one. Yeah, it's funny because you know,

865
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Speaker 1: growing up in a church household with the very religious

866
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: grandmother who wouldn't let me watch Power Rangers because it

867
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Speaker 1: had elements of demonic, demonic natures and saying thing with

868
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. I remember clearly going to church and hearing

869
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: them say don't let your kids read or watch those

870
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Harry Harry Potter movies and books, right, and which is ridiculous.

871
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: You know. I don't think we have to say more

872
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: about that than that. But it's funny because now JK.

873
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Rowling does sound like those people. She is in the

874
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: same those people also probably feel exactly the same way

875
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: she does about the trans community and are transphobic and

876
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: things like that, And it's just very funny that I

877
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: don't know if JK. I I've, for one, I've never

878
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: seen a Harry Potter book or movie, not because of

879
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: their religion just because I find fantasy boring. But I

880
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: wonder did JK. Rowling ever respond to those things that

881
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: were said, And if she did, I wonder what her

882
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: hypocritical response was to that compared to what her response is. Now,

883
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: if you really want to know, I've got a podcast

884
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: for you, Jaki, I will not be listening. But just

885
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: that argument that because her books were being unfairly criticized

886
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: as witchcraft, that like she can't be wrong now is like, so,

887
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like if someone made a podcast

888
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: about Bill Cosby and compared his accusers to film critics

889
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: who didn't like ghost at It's like, let's hold on now, Jack,

890
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: hold on now. Well, I mean I think it's telling

891
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: that the person that's, you know, rapping her perspective in

892
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: this is somebody who was a pr person and an

893
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: apologist for people with really bad and dangerous views and

894
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: her job essentially was to turn them into the victims

895
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, and that that they are the the

896
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: heroic people that are trying to fight for what's right

897
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: in this and they are just misunderstood regardless of the

898
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: fact that they were saying and doing horrific things and

899
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: just causing pain and wreckage everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, And the

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00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: New York Times put a fucking op ed up with

901
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: this perspective on it, and they're like, but don't worry,

902
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: we also like do op eds that are critical of

903
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: the police state and capitalism. So we have both sides.

904
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: It's like, that's not it's one of them should be

905
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: in your regular the regular part of your paper, and

906
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the other of them shouldn't be any fuckingwhere. Yeah, anywhere,

907
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: not even near your paper. Yeah. Also, I read something

908
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: about a week ago that the boom in podcasting is

909
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: starting to fade and die, like, you know, yeah those

910
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: past the past three four years and maybe even a

911
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: little bit before when the podcasting game was just really exploding,

912
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: so many new podcasts, so many works pouring money into

913
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: the to the form, and that's starting to subside a

914
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: little bit. And when I think of a podcast like this,

915
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not subsiding quick enough, you know,

916
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: it's not that you can we can nip this ship

917
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Speaker 1: in the bud, you know, Like, look, I as somebody

918
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: who was in the podcast game for a very long time,

919
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: had a podcast that a lot of people listen to

920
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: and have a couple of them and have taken a break.

921
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: I have not had a podcast of my own since

922
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. That's about to change. The breaking news

923
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: that's about to change this year. I can't talk about

924
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: it yet, but like you know, we you know, we

925
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: don't need to hear every fucking opinion or every thought

926
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: or every like every idea or every everything that comes

927
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: to our mind. Does not need to have expos a

928
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: or anything like this. It's just like, hey, man, networks,

929
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: just like, let it get just stopped, just stop. Can

930
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: just pay the people who have podcasts more money instead

931
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: and putting more money into these new podcasts that like

932
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: nobody fucking wants to listen to. That's right. Anyway, your

933
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 1: your podcast will be comparing the My podcast is about

934
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: why ghost Dad is one of the greatest. Want to

935
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: make sure that you clarified that. Okay, all right, well,

936
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Speaker 1: Perry Mason, wonderful having both of you guys on the

937
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Daily zeit Geist. Where can people find you? Follow you

938
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: all that good stuff anywhere good podcasts are found, so

939
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: probably the same place you're listening to this right now.

940
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: And you can check us out on the web at

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00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: Digital Folklore dot fm. There you go. Probably the easiest route, right.

942
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or work of media that

943
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: you guys have been enjoying. I mean, mine's not particularly

944
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: insightful or anything. It was just I scrolled by it

945
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: earlier today and it's lodged itself in my brain. From

946
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who does voice, he tweeted, you're

947
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: in her DMS. I'm in my booth auditioning to play

948
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: a gay catboy in her indie visual novel. We are

949
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: not the same. There you go for me. So it's

950
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: not a tweet, but it is a TikTok creator that

951
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I found called there I ruined it and they do

952
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: really interesting and sometimes obnoxious mashups of different bands and

953
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: in ways that are surprising. There you go, Jakis, Where

954
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: can people find and is there any media that you've

955
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Ah? Well, listen, you can always find me

956
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: in these streets, as per usual at Jackie's Neil on

957
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: the I G in the Meta universe. Yeah yeah, yeah. Also,

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Speaker 1: let me get little plugs and little plugs in watch

959
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: How I Met Your Father is Aaron o Hulu right now,

960
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Grand Crew on NBC debut in March third. I know

961
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: y'all better, I know that's after Black History Month, but

962
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: you're better be there. You're better watch the show. Get

963
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: our ratings up, so you know, if that show can

964
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: get a third season. It's a fun show. A lot

965
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: of Carl Tart on that show, a favorite uh in

966
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: the podcast world, a lot of dope Nicole Buyer, a

967
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: lot of dope people. So definitely watch that. Yeah, you know, listen,

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00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: I got I got some, I got some uh, I

969
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: got some tweets or some some things that I've seen.

970
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: But one of my things is this isn't a video,

971
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: this isn't something I can share, but like, it's a

972
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: video of black people cooking poorly. They they crack me

973
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: up because if you think black people roast white folks

974
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: when they be making like their dumb shit on the internet,

975
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: wait till you see black folks roast they own when

976
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: they make bad food on it. It is truly just

977
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: some of the funniest goddamn things that I've ever seen,

978
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: and I love it. Also, there is a Will of

979
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: Fortune clip going around poor young I think she looked

980
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: like she was at college girl or something like that,

981
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: and she had one letter to go. The word was

982
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: obviously fresh f R. E. S. H the only letter

983
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: missing was the S and it was like fresh fruit

984
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: or some shit like that, and the girl spend didn't

985
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: and said gee, and of course it was wrong. And

986
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: then unless girls like I'd like to solve the puzzle

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: fresh and you know, pass a Jack, he was like,

988
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: and the nicest way possible. It was like, you know,

989
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you just can't see a word and then you

990
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: hear it and you're like, ah, that's it. And I

991
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: was like, what a nice way to say, she's a moron?

992
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: You know. It is just so we've all been there.

993
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: You know, we've all been there. Listen. I absolutely love

994
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: watching game show fails on YouTube. It's one of my

995
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: favorite things to do, so check that out. Speaking of

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: game shows, Comedian Feud. This Sunday, if you're in La

997
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: or are, you're gonna be here and every last Sunday

998
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: at a month at Elesian Theater I hosted. We play

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Speaker 1: a live version of family Feud on stage. Reggie watch

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: Dan Black this month, Next month's got Akaman Jason Mansukus.

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01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: We got a lot of toepeople coming through, so come

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01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: on out. It's a blast. Jack has done it. Jack

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Speaker 1: has done it. I forgot I was on the I

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Speaker 1: was on the dailies. Like guys, I think a week

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Speaker 1: before you were about to be on there, but you

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Speaker 1: were missing. You weren't on there, and I completely forgot

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01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: to tell you know, the Zike world, the Zych Gang

1008
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: to come out and see you. They messed out you

1009
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: because I I was dominant. Dominant helped your team lose.

1010
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: Still there's one Yeah, there's one answer that still haunts

1011
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: me to this day. It's like, what something you bring

1012
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: on a first date? And I said, what did you say?

1013
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna that. I was like thinking, yeah, I

1014
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: would just say it's a blind date. You don't know,

1015
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: you have a friend backing you up. But it was

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: just like a little, a little what I wasn't thinking

1017
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: on the family feud level when I now you're you're

1018
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: being responsible. Yeah, you're on that dad level. I was

1019
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: on that G F R E g H tip frag freg.

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01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to guess you would bring a freg. Yeah

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: that's I'm gonna name my future kid. There you go.

1022
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: Uh tweet I've been enjoying. There's a historic VIDs just

1023
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: has a video of flat Earth or accidentally proves the

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01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: Earth is round in his own experiment and it's just

1025
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: worth watching because he's see that's that's interesting. That's and

1026
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: then he just like stop starting. I'd seen that. It's amazing,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's just a beam of light pointing through

1028
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: two holes that are separated by seventeen feet and he's like, huh,

1029
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure he found a way to justify it to

1030
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: not being true. But you can find me on Twitter,

1031
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at

1032
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist. We're at d daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We

1033
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: have a Facebook fan page on a website daily zeitgeist

1034
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: dot com where we post our episodes on our foot No. No,

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Speaker 1: we're link off to the information that we talked about

1036
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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we

1037
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Super producer justin what song do

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Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy? Well, I chose this song

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Speaker 1: and um oh I joined the discord by the way, everybody,

1040
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: so I've been seeing your comments and so this song

1041
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: is inspired by the people who think I sound like

1042
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: a stone middle schooler. Um this is justin No, I

1043
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I feel like it was

1044
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: a compliment. I truly do I think I don't know. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is a song by a trinidaddy and artist named

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Speaker 1: Marlon Asher. It's called Ganja Farmer. The song actually came

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Speaker 1: out maybe like my freshman year of high school. I

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Speaker 1: really love this track. It's been a long time since

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Speaker 1: I've heard it, and that conversation truly did remind me

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Speaker 1: of this, so you know, positive thing came out of it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, listen to this song Gonja Farmer by Marlon

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Speaker 1: Asher and you can find that song in the footnotes

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Speaker 1: foot note. The Daily Zeke has a producture by Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast wherever your listener favorite shows. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us this morning, back this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: all then fight