1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, Weird. Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: for being a listener here on the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. You're listening to the best of Clay 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton. One thing that is a constant, 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: as you all know that the Democrat corporate media lies 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: to you all the time, constantly pushing an agenda. Journalism 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: as a profession is something that people don't view the 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: same way they used to. And that's a good thing 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: because it really is worrying propaganda machines out there. They're 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: pushing agendas, they aren't bringing you just facts. You all 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: know that. And I actually saw today that the most 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: regretted above even gender studies and sociology and communications. There 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: was some up poll that was circulating some data out 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: there this morning that the most regretted major was journalism, 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: because you know what journalism is, reading and writing and communicating. 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: You're not getting a leg up on everybody else by 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: studying journalism in school. In fact, I even know people 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: who have taught at top J schools journalism schools, and 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: they will tell people quietly it's a waste of time 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: and money. Don't do it. But the journals, Clay are relentless, 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: they are true believers in their First of all, they're 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: this really noxious combination of incredibly arrogant and condescending but 23 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: also deeply insecure and aware of the fact that they're 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: all very replaceable. So it's a difficult personality type to handle, 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: to manage. But we have yet another instance of the 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: fake news, great term that President Trump gave us, the 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: fake news, showing us what they're really all about. NBC 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: News reporter Miguel al McGuire, I think that's right, was 29 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: suspended over his now retract did Paul Pelosi story? So 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: he reported, if we all remember, remember the Paul Pelosi 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: story that got so much attention, God was attacked. It 32 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: was a vicious attack. But people were asking some questions, 33 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: as I said, Clay, just on a security basis, how 34 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: does this guy just walk into the home of I mean, 35 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: I would assume the Capitol police had cameras, they were there, 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: they were asleep at the wheel. No, not ask any 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: questions though it was a right wing Trump supporter. They 38 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: said that it's I mean, which this guy's just clearly 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: completely out of his mind. But so Miguel almaguerre reported 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: that Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul didn't let on that he 41 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: was in danger when the police were at his home 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: right away. And so there were some questions about this, 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: and Clay, this is early stage reporting. I mean, think 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: about all the reporting on something far more serious and 45 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: horrific than this, like this shooting at Uvalde. Clearly so 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: much reporting that was completely wrong. Now in this case, 47 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: al McGuire, it's not believe he didn't fabricate it. This 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: is just what was reported to him by law enforcement sources, 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I would assume at the time. And they are suspending it. 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he is getting and this is now public, 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: he's getting an official punishment for this. Ely, I'll sit 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: here and go Okay. So you upset the Libs, you 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: upset the Democrat narrative in some way, Clay, or make 54 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: things even more difficult for a news cycle for them, 55 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: and there are professional consequences. But you lie about Russia 56 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: collusion for four years, you get a pulitzer. That's where 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: we are, Okay, And I would just point out they 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: could easily have eliminated all of this uncertainty by releasing 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: some of the bodycam footage the police officers have bodycams 60 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: on them. If they wanted to get the full story 61 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: out there, they have the charges that they have brought 62 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: against this guy. At some point they could have just 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: released the bodycam footage. How often do you see bodycam 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: footage out there from police in tumultuous, controversial cases all 65 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: the time. And your point on Uvalde is a great one. 66 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Everything that we were told initially on the Uval Day 67 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: School shooting ended up being a lie. Everything just about 68 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: and so every reporter got it wrong because they were 69 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: lied to. It's really really amazing. I mean, this was 70 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: a Today Show report that they pulled off of the 71 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: NBC website that they took completely down, and now they 72 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: are castigating and chastising this reporter because he said something. 73 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: We still don't know one hundred percent what the story 74 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: is here because we haven't seen the full footage or 75 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: the full details come out. They just he said something 76 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: that upset the Democrat Party and as a result, NBC 77 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: News the same. We can't have this. Have you heard? 78 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: It's just a good question for everybody out there. Have 79 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: you heard of any journalist at NBCCBS, ABC, Washington Post, 80 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: New York Times, MSNBCCNN, have any journalist been suspended for 81 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: any Russia collusion report at all. You mentioned this, but 82 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean just one. I haven't seen it publicly that 83 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: anybody has been suspended themselves awards for fake legitimate fake news. 84 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think this is instructive. I mean, 85 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: it's all about the area, the purpose of the narrative. 86 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: We all know it. It's very obvious. We have to 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: keep hammering it though, because you should not ever lull 88 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: yourself into thinking or allow yourself to think, well, maybe 89 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: the journals are going back towards the center, and you 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: know they've realized the error of their ways. Are you 91 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: kidding me? I mean, President Trump is likely announcing his 92 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: run for the presidency tonight. Right to be president for 93 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: four more years. I've been saying this is you know, 94 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: Clay and every listening for quite some time. The media 95 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: is just waiting for this, and then all the anti 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Trump machinery kicks right back into place. CNN's talking about 97 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: the insurrection twenty four to seven. I mean, this is 98 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: what many of them think they need really for for ratings. 99 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: So it's not like they've actually decided that what they 100 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: did in the past was partisan, dishonest and wrong. But 101 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: I will say, on the upside of things, you do 102 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: have this Elon Musk takeover of Twitter still playing out. 103 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: There's a couple of bugs, you know, there's a couple 104 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: of little issues here and there, just as the site goes, 105 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: because Clay and I are both very active on it, 106 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: and this may mean that we will have a site 107 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: that has true free speech and real free speech implications 108 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: going into the next election cycle that we really didn't 109 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: in this last one. And everyone I know, I'm sure 110 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: you've seen the same thing, Clay, all of a sudden, 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: all these conservatives, you know, your engagements up fifty percent, 112 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: your follow accounts going up more than it has. Everything 113 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: that we said about how they were throttling, and it's 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: all true. They were doing all kinds of shenanigans behind 115 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: the scenes of Twitter. The psycho woke libs were playing 116 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: every game they could to help their side and make 117 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: it all seem like it was on the up and up. 118 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: It's a free exchange of idea site. But this is 119 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Elon tweeted out, this is actually on November thirteenth. 120 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: I'd like to apologize for Twitter being super slow in 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: many countries. App is doing over a thousand poorly batch 122 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: rpcs just to render a home timeline. Now, to be fair, 123 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that means. Yeah, I mean 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: like I'm not pretending at all about any of this stuff. 125 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean I sometimes Kerry has to help me, like 126 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: switch from the smart TV to the old TV. You know, 127 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not great at this stuff. People like you were 128 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: in the CIA. I'm like, yeah, we had smart people 129 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: who did that stuff in the CIA too. This guy, though, 130 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: Eric Fraunoffer, responds to Elon Musk, who is his boss, 131 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: apparently a Twitter I have spent six years working on 132 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Twitter for Android and can say this is wrong, gets 133 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and two thousand likes. And then some guy 134 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: who goes by the moniker money nerd tech, well, I 135 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: think probably does know about this stuff. I have been 136 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: a developer for twenty years, and I can tell you, 137 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: as the domain expert here, you should inform your boss privately. 138 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Trying to one up him in public while he's trying 139 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: to learn and be helpful makes you look like a spiteful, 140 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: self serving dev For developer, mister Eric Frohnifer writes, maybe 141 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: he should ask questions privately, maybe using slacker email, and 142 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: then Elon just tweets in he's fired, and he is. 143 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: It turns out, messing with the richest man in the 144 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: world who is also your boss and the new CEO 145 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: of your company is a bad idea. Wokesters, I love this. 146 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Let me also just I said this on Fox News 147 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: earlier today because we were talking about this story a 148 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: little bit. You cannot believe that Elon Musk is going 149 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: to have success at Twitter. But there are a lot 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: of blue checks running around like, oh, Elon Musk doesn't 151 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: understand Twitter, he has no hope. This guy is better 152 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: at spending at sending rocket ships to space than NASA is, 153 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: and he totally remade the way that we power cars, 154 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: both of those things. If you told me right now, Buck, 155 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: like twenty years ago, Hey, I think I can send 156 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: rockets to space better than NASA, cheaper, more efficiently, and 157 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: I can return them, most people would say that's a 158 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: that's a really tall order. And if you also said simultaneously, 159 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: and while I'm doing that, I'm going to redesign cars 160 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: so that we don't have to rely on gas, and 161 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to electric power them and all these other things, 162 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people would say that's really difficult to 163 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: do figuring out a social media app and configuring it 164 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: and analyzing it. And compared to that, compared to sending 165 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: rocket ships to space better than NASA and designing cars 166 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: without the combustion engine, this is not very complicated. So 167 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether the big business of Twitter is 168 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: going to be a success, because I think there's certainly 169 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: bet you can place on that. But the idea that 170 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is not going to be able to understand 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: the mechanics of Twitter, which this little software engineer, developer, 172 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: whoever he was, was sniping at Elon Musk. This is 173 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: one of the most brilliant people on the planet, and 174 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: he's already succeeded in literal rocket ship making and also 175 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: now in the car business by redesigning combustion engine. I 176 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: think he's probably gonna be able to handle Twitter. I'm 177 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: just placing my bet down on this guy can figure 178 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: it out. I'm just also, you know, I don't do 179 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the hero worship thing, but I do live in reality, 180 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: and I think when someone is the richest man on 181 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: the planet because they've done the things that you've laid 182 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: out there, like maybe show a little respect you know 183 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, maybe I'll be like, oh, mister idiot, 184 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Elon doesn't know anything about the back end machinations of 185 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: the I can't. I don't even know what you call 186 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: this thing the software. Once you start getting the computer side, 187 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a totally might as well be 188 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: speaking Mandarin. I have no idea what's going on. I'm 189 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: like you in terms of tech. I mean, I run 190 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: a media company, and we've got a lot of tech 191 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: obviously involved in that media company. I mean, when I 192 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: want to watch Thursday night football on Amazon, I have 193 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: to call in my wife or my kids to figure 194 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: out how to get on Amazon streaming as opposed to 195 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: a traditional cable, Like I hate trying to find sporting 196 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: events now on my television because they're streamed so many 197 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: different ways. But you know, I still think I'm gonna 198 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: tell you this now. I think I'm gonna be able 199 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: to beat my kids one day in video games. I 200 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: feel like old school Nintendo got us very primed for this. 201 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: I see everything sorely mistaken. I think like FIFA twenty 202 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: thirty five is going to come out on PlayStation nineteen 203 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, and I'm gonna I'm gonna be schooling my kids. 204 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, the gap is not as 205 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: big as people I will say. They have gotten me 206 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: to play Fortnite against them, They've gotten me to try 207 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: to do the Minecraft building. And I grew up on 208 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: the h I grew up on video games. Now, you 209 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: may have played video games longer than me, right, because 210 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: when I started having kids, like, they got years of 211 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: advantage on me. Like they used something called the pinball machine. 212 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: That was the that was the state of the art, 213 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, when Clay was coming up the rigs. I'm 214 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: really I could beat them in tech Mobowl. You know, 215 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: you want to play tech Mobowl, you want to play 216 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: RBI Baseball, you want to play uh, you want to 217 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: play the old school Nintendo eight bit games. I'll wreck 218 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: these kids. But but when it comes to the modern 219 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: day Madden, uh, they let dad have it pretty bad. Yeah, 220 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: well there you have. So I'm just I'm just saying 221 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: that your prediction may may actually be if somebody somebody, 222 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: if somebody gun to your head says greatest for you 223 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: at the time, greatest video game that you ever played? 224 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: What would it be, Techmo super Bowl, greatest video game 225 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: ever created? Um first one with eleven players like it's 226 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: the best game ever. What about jib Meyer's Original Civilization 227 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: for me, even though that is not a computer game. Yes, 228 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: very nerve are best game ever was a computer game. 229 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: It was amazing. Yeah. I used to play as Montezuma 230 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: and then just end up knuking everybody. It was phenomenal. 231 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: Blades of Steel, Baseball Stars, RBI Baseball, um, the original Techmobowl, 232 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: all of those would be in my contra back in 233 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: the day. Remember I loved the Contributeo game. I also 234 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: on N sixty four, I remember the Golden Eye video 235 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: game multiplayer. Oh, everybody played. That was revolutionary in its time. 236 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: And Mario Card. There were some people who would imbube 237 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: illegal substances and play the Mario card. You say Mario, 238 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: isn't it Mario? You say Mario Mario? Just you might 239 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: have just caught me be doing the weird I might 240 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: have just pulled the clay there with my pronunciation. Just 241 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: isn't it super Mario Brothers? You would say super Mario Brothers? 242 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: Is that the way I think it's I think you're right. 243 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: I think it's Mario, like it's Mario and Luigi. Right, 244 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Is it Mario or Mario Lopez, for example, Mario Lopez. Yeah, 245 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: so it's it's Mario. I think I don't know now. 246 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: You guys called me mister Nevada. You just caught me 247 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: right there, you go, Nevada, I got it right, ted 248 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: it up. People have noticed too. Our Nevada listeners are like, 249 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: thank you. Clay didn't help though, And although I guess 250 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Lombardo got the win, I would have liked to have 251 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: been able to celebrate two wins. Laxalt is officially conceded, 252 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: by the way. Unfortunately, Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton, 253 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: show Buck, you mentioned this in the open. I want 254 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: to make sure I remember to hit it so there. 255 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Yesterday was a front page story in the New York 256 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Times about the dangers of transgender surgeries for miners and 257 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: also puberty blockers. And it's a fascinating story that they 258 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: finally acknowledged is a real issue. And it's a, you know, 259 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: several thousand words story. But what I thought was intriguing was, 260 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: and we made these analogies before, and I wonder whether 261 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: there's somebody like who's kind of a mole inside of 262 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: the New York Times that thought to do this in 263 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the print edition. Yes, I'm an old man. I read 264 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: the print newspaper. When you finished that article about the 265 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: transgender the surgeries, and also the puberty blockers. There was 266 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: an article about a ten year old who got a tattoo. 267 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: And in that article about a ten year old who 268 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: got a tattoo, they quoted several experts as saying, how 269 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: in the world could any parent let their ten year 270 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: old get a tattoo. Kids who are that young don't 271 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,359 Speaker 1: have the ability to make life altering decisions. I'm paraphrasing. 272 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Yet there were many experts in the article about the 273 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: puberty blockers saying, well, if a twelve year old decides 274 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to go into puberty, we should definitely 275 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: do it. And the overriding story year Buck was that 276 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: when you get puberty blockers, your bones don't develop like 277 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: they normally would, and many of these kids are facing 278 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: osteoporosis issues where their bones are brittle because puberty is 279 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: when many kids I didn't know this, but your bones 280 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: strengthened to a large degree to support you being able 281 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: to handle an adult body, and many of these kids 282 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: getting puberty blockers are having issues with their bone strength. 283 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: In addition to all the issues that might arise obviously 284 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: from changing your gender while you're still under eighteen years old. 285 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: So there's something you know called body integrity identity disorder, 286 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: which is when somebody wants to amputate a healthy limb. 287 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: This is a real psychological condition. I believe it is 288 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: still in the DSM. I think it is still something 289 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: that the medical community, psychiatric medical community, will will talk about. 290 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 1: There was a story place as we discussing this yesterday 291 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: in on Vice, which is a very left wing so 292 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: called news organizations like a left wing blog. Trans people 293 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: are seeking non binary bottom surgeries. Let's talk about that 294 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: when we come back. What does that even mean? Everybody. 295 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this in just a moment. While there 296 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: was much discussion before the midterm election about issues like 297 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: transcender indoctrination in schools, which they still want to do, 298 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: and Drag Queen, not just Drag Queen Story Hour, but 299 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: these kind of drag Queen strip shows in front of 300 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: small children, you know, the dancing up on the polls 301 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. All this stuff that goes on. It's weird, 302 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: it's inappropriate. We all know this, well, not everybody, but 303 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: everyone listening to this knows that and this was new. 304 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: I had never heard of this before. And now I 305 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: want to point out this is reported on in Vice, 306 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: which is it's essentially like the place for very far 307 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: left wing hipsters with you know, this is like a 308 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: very far left wing website. I'll put it you that way. 309 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of nose rings and blue 310 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: hair and you know, Black Lives Matter and announcing pronouns 311 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: and get your six vac shots. That's kind of the 312 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Vice vibe. So it's they're reporting on this. Trans people 313 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: are seeking non binary bottom surgeries. Is the story here 314 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: across the gender spectrum. I'm quoting everybody. Some patients are 315 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: looking for mixed sets of genitals or none at all, 316 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: and actually receiving this affirming care isn't easy. Okay, a 317 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: couple things here, Clay, before I let you let you 318 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: get into this situation. First of all, you can tell 319 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: by the subhead here, the subheadline that the problem here is, 320 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're not letting people easily get mixed 321 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: genital sets or no genital sets. I want to be clear. 322 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: In this article they go into there are now transgender 323 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: self identified individuals who want surgery to have both a 324 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: penis and a vaginas simultaneously because that is their gender 325 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: identity journey or I'm not even sure which is I 326 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: mean this. I think this is probably the more strange 327 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: one to have all genitalia removed entirely and have only 328 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, a urinary tract effectively in that area. This 329 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: is a thing that is happening, and some doctors are 330 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: being told by their patients that this is the surgery 331 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: that they want. Would I would wonder within the trans 332 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: left wing activist community, on what basis this is their truth? 333 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: On what basis will they tell them they can't do this? Yeah, 334 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: this is all crazy. And my general belief is if 335 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: you're over eighteen years old and you want to make 336 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: crazy choices for yourself, you can do it. I think 337 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: it's unlikely to lead to you being happier. I think 338 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: many of these people are psychologically broken and they feel 339 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: like they need to take gray the action in order 340 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: to make themselves happy. And I respect very often after 341 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: all these surgeries, they think, oh, if I just did this, 342 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: I would be happy if I just felt and then 343 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: they aren't right. But this is next level crazy. This 344 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: is just at some point there is a difference between. 345 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean the analogy on Halloween, which is, if your 346 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: kid dresses up like a cowboys and Indians, then it's 347 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: totally unacceptable. But if an adult decides that they want 348 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: to change their gender and they demand that you use 349 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: the pronouns of their choice, it's permissible. The line I 350 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: think Matt Walsh added in his in his what is 351 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: a Woman piece, which I thought was really good, is 352 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: you don't get to pick your adjectives, right, so take 353 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: away the pronoun thing like I'm gonna share my pronouns 354 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: with you or whatever else, But I don't get to say. 355 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: You can only refer to me as handsome, you can 356 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: only refer to me as brilliant, you can only refer 357 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: to me as a genius. Like you. Everybody out there 358 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: can make their own determinations about how you see me, 359 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: or you or anyone else. This idea that you can 360 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: demand your pronouns is crazy, and I don't know where 361 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: the trans agenda goes, but it feels like many people 362 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: increasingly are saying, Hey, you wanted to change your gender 363 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: or whatever, but you've You've gone off the crazy train. 364 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: So what would be fascinating to me? And remember, we 365 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: can call this and I do think this is mental illness. 366 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but I would I would make 367 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: the argument as a layperson that that's what's going on here, 368 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: that Clay what we It keeps getting crazier and they 369 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: don't stop. I think we need to be very cognizant 370 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: of that, meaning that the more you know, it was oh, 371 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: just use my pronouns, and now it's oh, I get 372 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: to compete against the opposite gender and use their locker 373 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: rooms or else you're a bigot and the bid. The administration, 374 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: by the way, may go back to giving Title nine 375 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: protection to transgender athletes, which means the whole thing then 376 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: is just a free for all for anybody who wants 377 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: to compete against the other gender. You have people demanding 378 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: that they are put in a woman's prison, even if 379 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: they're a man with a penis. They just say, I'm 380 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: a woman, so put me in the woman's prison. It 381 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: keeps getting crazier. This is the nature of this movement, 382 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: of this situation. It never stops. And this is oh. 383 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: And I would say the most recent manifestation we have 384 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: seen is the we got to get the kids to 385 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: do this. We gotta get twelve year olds to take 386 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: the Cubert you know, that's the that's and now a 387 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: level beyond that is individuals who are saying, I want 388 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: to have no genitalia. I have a right to have 389 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: a medical profession. Remember, this is a serious surgery with 390 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: all kinds of calm. I mean, you're not you know 391 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: this is this is not growing your hair out and 392 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: putting on lipstick. I mean this is something you got 393 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: to be put on general anesthesia, you got to have 394 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: a surgeon, all this stuff. They want doctors to remove 395 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: all genitals. So sort of like you know kenn and 396 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Barbie Doll situation here, that is what they are demanding. 397 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: And what's fascinating is that they're getting pushed back from 398 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: within the trans community, according to this article, for making 399 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: it seem too crazy. That's what's so interesting. So finally 400 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: wokeness has now turned on wokeness and they're trying to 401 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: figure out can we make this next step happen. I'm 402 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. They're gonna keep pushing this. You 403 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: know what they tried for a little there are a 404 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: couple of articles. One thing they tried for a little 405 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: while is you are a bigot. If you're a man 406 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: who is not attracted to a trans female because trans 407 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: women or women, you're a biggot. They actually, like Huffington 408 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: Post had some articles about this that didn't work. I 409 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: think they're gonna try this one next, which is that, hey, 410 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: if you want to have both sets, so to speak, 411 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: it's fine. It's fine. And by the way, Joe Biden 412 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: will have some influencer to the White House and they'll say, oh, God, 413 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: bless you. You know you got the two sets. He's 414 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: fine with this. The White House goes along with all 415 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: of this. I just don't know where we go from here. 416 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: I almost, by the way, Clay almost flabbergasted with this one, 417 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: which I've almost never seen. I can barely I just 418 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: when you told me about this, Like basically, the way 419 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: to think of it is like if you've ever seen 420 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: a Barbie doll or a kin doll. People are just 421 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: wiping their entire genitals out. I don't even know. Like 422 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: this is clearly psychological, like they are like clearly like 423 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: mentally ill. Right. Body identity integrity disorder is something that 424 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: people that are critical of the trans agenda and activism 425 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: have been bringing up for years because people realize that 426 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: you're asking a surgeon too. I don't like my left arm. 427 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: Remove my left arm. That is essentially, you know, boiled 428 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: down what we're talking about here, This is that now 429 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: basically remove everything down there. This is body integrity identity disorder, 430 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: which the transactivist community was always saying, well, we would, 431 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: that's totally different. This is about living your truth. It's 432 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: actually not that different. It's just crazy. And I don't 433 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: know how we get back to not being crazy, honestly. 434 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: It's spend a lot of time thinking about that. On 435 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: the one hand, I'm encouraged when people of the left 436 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: start to speak out about reality. On the other hand, 437 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I also remember that they pushed the culture and the 438 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: media to the point where now unreality is fashionable and 439 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: actually mandatory in so many ways. You see in the 440 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Atlantic they're saying, you know, there's really not clearer evidence 441 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: that men are stronger and faster than women. I saw that. 442 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that. I mean, they folks, they're they're crazy. 443 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean, they are zealots of lunacy. And this is 444 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: what is mandatory now on the left. But anyway, Bill 445 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: maher over on his show, and I think at some 446 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: level this is driven by he's frustrated that he's not 447 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: allowed to really be a comedian anymore, at least not 448 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: a not really right. I mean, he can make certain 449 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: jokes and haha, you know Donald Trump, haha, but you 450 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: can't really push boundaries very much. And on the historical 451 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: stuff we're just talking. I was talking about the Guns 452 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: of August and the funeral of King Edward the Seventh 453 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen ten. And I'm sure we could go through 454 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: all the assembled monarchs of Europe who were there and 455 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: find that a lot of them were insufficiently devoted to 456 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus rights, a lot of them were insufficiently woken 457 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: when we were another. But that would be a bizarre exercise, really, 458 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: Like what's the point of it? Presentism is what Bill 459 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Moore calls, this phenomenon of judging everything in history by 460 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: the standards of today. Here's how we teach our kids. 461 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: History has become a big controversy these days, with liberals 462 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: accusing conservatives of wanting to whitewash the past. And sometimes 463 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: that's true. Sometimes they do, but plenty of liberals also 464 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: want to abuse history to control the present, and last month, 465 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: a scholar named James Sweet called hell for calling them 466 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: out for doing just that. He criticized the phenomenon known 467 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: as present ism, which means judging everyone in the past 468 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: by the standards of the present. It's the belief that 469 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: people that lived a hundred or five hundred or a 470 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: thousand years ago really should have known better. On the 471 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: one hand, Clay, we can talk about just the way 472 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: that this is. It's absurd and makes no sense because 473 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: what are the outer limits of it? But I think 474 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: it's really more to the point for everyone to know 475 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: this is just about power, and it's actually about controlling 476 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: the present. It is effectively creating narratives meant to destroy 477 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: so much of what our society is built on historically 478 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: and our understandings of how we got to where we are, 479 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: and replace it with something else. If you can destroy 480 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: the moral legitimacy of the men who created the Constitution 481 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: and the Declaration of Independence, then you can say that 482 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: Constitution doesn't speak for America today, and you can demand 483 00:27:53,080 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: that all of the foundational elements of American democracy are legitimate. 484 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: And it's wild to me that Mayor Muriel Bowser, who 485 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: will talk about in a minute in Washington, d C. 486 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: She endorsed the idea of renaming I believe Washington, DC, 487 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: and the idea of tearing down the Jefferson Memorial as 488 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: well as potentially the Washington Monument over the fact that 489 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: both of those Virginians owned slaves in their era. And 490 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: maybe we can grab the part of Bill Maher's monologue 491 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: which I thought was really good. We have created this 492 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: world in America today which is founded through the sixteen 493 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: nineteen project, which New York Times has put all their 494 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: power behind, as if America was the only place that 495 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: ever had slaves and that slavery didn't exist anywhere else 496 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: in the history of the world, when the reality is, 497 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: every single person listening to us right now, at some 498 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: point in time had ancestors who wore slaves. That is 499 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. Now I'm not saying that they 500 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: were slaves in the United States or in the United 501 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: States colonies, but every single person listening to us right now, 502 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: if you go far enough back, has ancestors who wore 503 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: slaves at some point in world history. Because slavery was everywhere, 504 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: every single society practiced it. I mean, read the Bible. 505 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: The Bible, as Bill Maher points out, discusses slavery all 506 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: the time, it was commonplace that if your tribe defeated 507 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: another tribe, you killed most of the men or made 508 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: them slaves and took the women and children into your 509 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: own tribe. That existed everywhere, that existed in Native American culture, 510 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: where everybody wants to pretend was like this Bucolic without 511 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: flaw country here at land Mass before Europeans arrived. The 512 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: term slave, we believe it comes from Eastern Europe and 513 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Slavs because of the Muslim slave trade, which involved a 514 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: lot of white Christian Europeans enslaved over a period of centuries, 515 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: which is often not talked about today. The Muslim the 516 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: Barbary coursers of North Africa went as far as Ireland 517 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: and actually Iceland, believe it or not, on slave raiding 518 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: missions and they took people. They took the women for harems, 519 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: and the men. Not to keep them for long periods 520 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: of time. It was to have them run or the 521 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: ships of galleys where they would die essentially at the 522 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: or they'd put them in minds where the conditions were 523 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: so horrific that they would die. And they just kept 524 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: a steady stream of people to come in and die. 525 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: In North Africa a few million people over a few centuries. 526 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: No one talks in even in the sixteen nineteen project, 527 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that the African slaves were being initially enslaved, 528 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: saved by other Africans who were then taking the people 529 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: that they had enslaved and selling them into the Transatlantic 530 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: slave trade. But it's as if those people don't exist. 531 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll grab that short period because you're exactly right. 532 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: But Bill Maher basically talks about that in his monologue 533 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: The Legacy of Slavery. We've descended it to the point 534 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: where the United States, according to left wingers, is the 535 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: only place that has ever had slavery, and that that 536 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: original sin is such a stain upon this society that 537 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: there is no legitimacy in rooted anywhere in our historical past. 538 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: It's a lie, but it's a powerful lie, and it's 539 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: one that needs to be refuted on the historical record. 540 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: And one of the things that has become paramount is 541 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: the idea of the United States is a horrible racist 542 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: country and therefore has no legitimacy behind its government. Buck 543 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: and I talked about this, I believe to finish off 544 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: the Hour to Day about the history of slavery and 545 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: the fact that it existed everywhere. Bill Maher did a 546 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: good job in his monologue Listen to this. Everybody who 547 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: could afford one had a slave, including people of color. 548 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: The way people talk about slavery these days, you'd think 549 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: it was a uniquely American thing that we invented in 550 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen. But slavery throughout history has been the rule, 551 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: not the exception. The Sumerians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, Romans, 552 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: the Arabs, British, the early Americans. The Holy Bible is 553 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: practically an owner's manual for slaveholders. The word slave comes 554 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: from slav because so many Slavic people were enslaved, and 555 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: they're as white as the Hallmark Channel. Who do you 556 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: think gathered the slaves from the interior of Africa to 557 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: sell to slave traders Africans who also kept their own slaves. 558 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Humans 559 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: are not good people, all right. So that's a pretty 560 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: good history of I didn't know about it went into 561 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: the etymology of the word slave there, but yes, that 562 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: that is. You know, you left out the Aztec Empire, 563 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: which was when Cortez arrived build not only upon mass slavery, 564 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: but also mass human sacrifice, including the human sacrifice of 565 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: children who were slaves by taking as slaves and then 566 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: sacrifice in the most gruesome ways. But you know, indigenous 567 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: people were told they're all in harmony with the environment, 568 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it's everyone thinks that that this is 569 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: like that they were living in some Disney cartoon before 570 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: we arrived. There are other native tribes, by the way, 571 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: in this country who also enslaved other native tribes. The 572 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: Vikings had a massive or I shouldn't say massive, wasn't 573 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: that many of them, but had a longstanding practice of 574 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: slaves and slavery. This was the constant and human history 575 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: throughout all conquests and warfare. But we're only supposed to 576 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: talk about it in the context of America, yep. And 577 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: here's the context. We hardly even talk about buck. The 578 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: vast majority of slavery that took place in the United 579 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: States was pre the United States, so from sixteen nineteen 580 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: to seventeen eighty three until we became an independent country. 581 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: Arguably England would be on the hook for that one 582 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty years or so. We only had slavery 583 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: in the United States for eighty years. I remember when 584 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: I was in the museum in Charleston that was originally 585 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: a slave market that they've turned down into museum. There's 586 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: a statistic that people, I think very people know three 587 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: percent of Southern as I believe, had ninety seven percent 588 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: of the slaves. Hardly any Southern soldiers on a per 589 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: capita basis in the Civil War actually had slaves. It's 590 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny percentage.