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Speaker 3: When the going gets tough, the tough get going, and
Speaker 3: Everson Walls has got going again today he's doing something
Speaker 3: else and doesn't have time for us here on mix Shots.
Speaker 3: It is officially Texans Week. Here at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 3: inside the SWBC podcast studio, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and
Speaker 3: the Great Nate Newton. Nate in Frisco fills in for
Speaker 3: the vacationing Everson Walls.
Speaker 2: Hello, Nate, how you guys doing?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: What are you doing? Watching over there?
Speaker 2: Just trying to be up on what's happening, and you know,
Speaker 2: trying to pre prep for these shows. Man, to make
Speaker 2: sure you know, I say a lot of wild things, and.
Speaker 3: You will make sure that you're prepared to say those
Speaker 3: wild things.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so we're going to back them up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna back them up all right. Yeah, my team
Speaker 2: play better. I'll be able to back them up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, a football team needs players like Nate Newton
Speaker 3: who just whenever summoned, they go right in the game.
Speaker 3: And that's what Nate Newton has done again today. And
Speaker 3: prepare we find out last minute that someone's lunching is
Speaker 3: running over or wherever Everthon is right now, and here
Speaker 3: comes Nata running to fill in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was down there in the when they started
Speaker 2: this little stream or whatever they call it. I'm just waiting.
Speaker 2: I think we should get Nata. I'm here, I'm always
Speaker 2: lurking around here.
Speaker 3: You go, right, yeah, all right, We've got a football
Speaker 3: equipment on the football field and we expect to have
Speaker 3: football players out there shortly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, and the sun has risen.
Speaker 3: It has. Yes, it's been a beautiful week here.
Speaker 5: I hope they can practice in the sun.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Mike, I'm with you, my friend. I'm
Speaker 2: just waiting on. Let's get get started. Man, where are
Speaker 2: we going with this to day? With mixed shots?
Speaker 3: What do you have?
Speaker 5: Somebody pointed out to me that last year Cowboys won
Speaker 5: all their home games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had like a sixteen game winning streak at
Speaker 3: home before the season started the regular season.
Speaker 5: Was the sun not out there in those games. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just asking.
Speaker 2: You won't stop with you, mak No.
Speaker 5: Just it just dawned on me. That's all I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is what it is, Mike. Don't
Speaker 2: let it. Don't let it get you upset, man. Okay,
Speaker 2: let the outside for us is could come an issue.
Speaker 5: Didn't matter that they missed blocks and all three of
Speaker 5: those plays on the goal line.
Speaker 2: Let it go, make let it go, Let's move forward.
Speaker 2: We Hey, guess what, we got a new game this week? Right,
Speaker 2: let it go? Make help me out here, Bill.
Speaker 3: And it's a team that doesn't play in the sun.
Speaker 3: It's a night it's a night game, so took care
Speaker 3: of that. Probably got no excuses see glare of the
Speaker 3: Monday night football lights instead.
Speaker 5: That's right. I hope they don't get freaked out by
Speaker 5: National TV.
Speaker 3: All Right, we got a quarterback undergoing surgery today in New.
Speaker 5: York, Yes we do. And boy, and I guess it's
Speaker 5: with a specialist. Yes, I'm assuming this guy has done
Speaker 5: this surgery or doctor, I should say, a surgeon that's
Speaker 5: done this before. Yeah, I shouldn't be a sexist, right,
Speaker 5: could be a female surgeon?
Speaker 2: Right? Yes? I mean, well, us doing the job, please
Speaker 2: do it well, and give him the right rehab program.
Speaker 2: So next year when he comes back, he's fully ready
Speaker 2: to go, and we can see him starting in OTAs.
Speaker 5: You know that when you said, hope he does it well.
Speaker 5: The night before my dad at eighty two, had open
Speaker 5: heart surgery. The doctor came in, talked to him, any questions,
Speaker 5: and he goes, okay, see you in the morning. My
Speaker 5: dad goes, make sure you get a good night's sleep.
Speaker 2: That's right, man, Yes, their do it right.
Speaker 5: Make sure you do a good job. So then I
Speaker 5: would imagine this is probably takes a while before you
Speaker 5: start rehab.
Speaker 3: I understand the medical experts that we talked to at
Speaker 3: CBS Texas yesterday.
Speaker 5: I did somebody from San Diego.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. It wasn't an internet doctor said that
Speaker 3: basically it's a down period for about ten days. And
Speaker 3: I did not talk myself with this doctor, but this
Speaker 3: this is his second hand, and so it was down
Speaker 3: period for like ten days and then we'll start the
Speaker 3: rehab process. He said, it's not as difficult to rehab
Speaker 3: as what he went through, of course four years ago
Speaker 3: with the compound fracture of the ankle and coming back
Speaker 3: from that, but he estimated three to five months recovery,
Speaker 3: and which went at the long end of that at
Speaker 3: five months puts you right to April, which is the
Speaker 3: start of the off season program.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 5: So as long as I was thinking, as long as
Speaker 5: you're ready by July.
Speaker 3: You know when Jerry on the radio said three months,
Speaker 3: I did the math. I said, wait, December, January, February.
Speaker 3: So just like Aiden Hutchinson, the Lions are hoping to
Speaker 3: get Aiden Hutchinson back by the Super Bowl. I did
Speaker 3: the math on that, and it would match up with
Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 5: That ain't happening, Okay, No tours acl.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh you're talking about the bidding. No, he broke
Speaker 3: his leg.
Speaker 2: It broke his He broke his Oh that's right.
Speaker 3: Sorry, So I just took time for the bone to heal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: big bone.
Speaker 5: Like last last year when Aaron Rodgers tore his achilles
Speaker 5: and he was going to be back before the end
Speaker 5: of the season.
Speaker 3: That workout. It's not working out this year either, ye'ah.
Speaker 2: Doing everything you'll can to stay away from football. Wait
Speaker 2: to go, ya doing a bastard for job? All right?
Speaker 5: So Nate Watson get it back to.
Speaker 2: Football, back to our football.
Speaker 5: I mean what you got on your mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this team is facing three games in the
Speaker 3: span of eleven days, with a Monday night game followed
Speaker 3: by a Sunday game and then a Thursday game. How
Speaker 3: difficult is that stretch. It's even it's by by one day.
Speaker 3: It is shorter than what the normal process is this
Speaker 3: time of the year for the cowboy.
Speaker 2: For the young guys, you know, the first year guys,
Speaker 2: it'll be hectic, But this is about being a professional,
Speaker 2: locking in more importantly, getting your families and friends to
Speaker 2: lock in that you know you may not have as
Speaker 2: much time as you normally do, and just just lock
Speaker 2: in and make sure you're healthy, make sure you take
Speaker 2: care of your body, and it just be the best
Speaker 2: you can. Just prepare. Coach is going to try to
Speaker 2: make it easy. He's going to try to mesh these games.
Speaker 2: The best plays that you do, the best schemes that
Speaker 2: you run, that you've been successful. They'll try to lean
Speaker 2: to more towards that and what each game may be
Speaker 2: have in common and just put it together and you
Speaker 2: make that run. This team here more so than any
Speaker 2: other team at this point, I'm talking about I passed teams.
Speaker 2: Here is you're truly gonna have to be locked in
Speaker 2: on this one game at a time and understanding who
Speaker 2: you're playing, get extra film working. It's just gonna be
Speaker 2: like twenty one days of just eleven or twelve day
Speaker 2: excuse me of just doing what you gotta do.
Speaker 5: So they get an extra day this week to prepare.
Speaker 5: McCarthy said they would go heavy early in the week
Speaker 5: and then slack off or taper off.
Speaker 2: I should use the right word.
Speaker 5: Cowboys are slacking off, yes, taper off towards the end.
Speaker 5: And so they're going to keep Wednesday through Friday the same.
Speaker 5: Maybe they get if they take an easy day walk
Speaker 5: through maybe on Saturday, and don't do the other practice
Speaker 5: on Sunday to get ready for the Monday night game.
Speaker 2: But then you got a.
Speaker 5: Short week, right, yes, to get ready for Sunday away game,
Speaker 5: and then you're away and good thing. It's a it's
Speaker 5: an early game right in Washington, am I right.
Speaker 2: At twelve o'clock? What you mean is by early.
Speaker 3: Early, let me look it up here, look, which means
Speaker 3: you get back at it is a noon game, ye,
Speaker 3: So you.
Speaker 5: Get back at a decent time. So Monday is not
Speaker 5: wasted like previous years when the Cowboys had away game
Speaker 5: on Sunday night and then played Thursday.
Speaker 2: So that's more.
Speaker 5: Equitable for getting ready for the game. So yeah, they've
Speaker 5: got a lot of preparation to do, and you're trying
Speaker 5: to also use this week as an extra day to
Speaker 5: not only prepare now your starting quarterback, but your backup
Speaker 5: quarterback too.
Speaker 3: Okay, when was the last time that the Cowboys played
Speaker 3: a Monday night game, then a Sunday game, and then
Speaker 3: a Thursday game? Meaning I hope you have the meaning
Speaker 3: three games in eleven days is typically it's three games
Speaker 3: in twelve days with a Sunday game, not a Monday
Speaker 3: night game on the front end of that. Right, So
Speaker 3: when's the last time that happened.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing it's been quite some time.
Speaker 3: Two thousand and five, as you were talking, I just looked.
Speaker 2: It up, all right.
Speaker 3: In two thousand and five they played a Monday night
Speaker 3: game at Philadelphia and one twenty one twenty They came
Speaker 3: back the following Sunday in one at home against Detroit
Speaker 3: twenty to seven, and then they lost an overtime game
Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving to Denver twenty four to twenty one. So
Speaker 3: it's been nineteen years since they've had these bunched up.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, the league did them a favor this year
Speaker 3: by not having a Thursday game on the back side
Speaker 3: of the Thanksgiving game, because if they did that, then
Speaker 3: you look at four games in eighteen days.
Speaker 5: Was that a nine and sevens.
Speaker 3: They went nine and seven at OH five, which would
Speaker 3: have been DeMarcus Ware's rookie season, but.
Speaker 5: It didn't get them in the playoffs. That's right second place.
Speaker 3: In fact, they were coming into that stretch, they were
Speaker 3: one two, three four, They had a five and three record,
Speaker 3: got it to seven and three, and then lost to
Speaker 3: four out of the last six.
Speaker 5: Games turn persells warm out.
Speaker 3: So uh And as I said yesterday, for those who
Speaker 3: were wondering, okay, go ahead and just hand it over
Speaker 3: to Trey Lance at quarterback, that this with even if
Speaker 3: you just looked at this schedule right now, you that
Speaker 3: would be coaching malpractice to give it to a guy
Speaker 3: who had so limited experience both in college and the NFL.
Speaker 3: Three games in eleven days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I heard you just talk about it
Speaker 2: yesterday and you was adamant about it, and you seemed
Speaker 2: like you slept on it, and you came up with
Speaker 2: the same conclusion again. So I'm glad you stick to it.
Speaker 2: My thing is just right here. You know, I've talked
Speaker 2: a few people off the ledge because everybody you know,
Speaker 2: wants to judge Cooper Rush on this one game. Don't
Speaker 2: do that. Give this kid a chance to have another
Speaker 2: week in practice with these guys. With the receivers. You know,
Speaker 2: we have seen confusion in the routes where there's no spacing,
Speaker 2: but it seemed like it was even more this game.
Speaker 2: I'm not forget pointing fingers. I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 2: I think. Guys got to take a little bit more
Speaker 2: responsibility in their route running because it's bad enough we're
Speaker 2: struggling on the offensive line. Then when offensive line do
Speaker 2: get it right, then we run wrong routes. Route running
Speaker 2: is more just like basketball. You hear coaches out there
Speaker 2: every game I was spacing, I was spacing. Wasn't right.
Speaker 2: Same in football. Wide receivers don't take care, don't run
Speaker 2: guys into the same area the touchdown down there that
Speaker 2: Mick continues to talk about that's bad spacing. Well, that's well, however,
Speaker 2: whatever the reason, whatever the excuse, it's bad spacing you
Speaker 2: yet the tight end supposed to be okay, it was bad, right,
Speaker 2: So guys gotta start before you leave a huddle. Like
Speaker 2: Jimmy used to tell me, Nate, know the play, know
Speaker 2: the snap count, know the play, know the snap count,
Speaker 2: and and that's your responsibility as a wide receiver. If
Speaker 2: we if we got CD Lamb running across the back
Speaker 2: of his zone wide open, Jason Ferguson, I love you,
Speaker 2: but don't cross over into his zone. We got to
Speaker 2: play down underneath coming out, we have the same thing
Speaker 2: where guys running over the top. One guy that brings
Speaker 2: a guy just enough until the vision of the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Now the quarterback has to move that he's lost sight
Speaker 2: of that guy and gave the corner a chance to
Speaker 2: catch up. Do your job. I think he will.
Speaker 3: What he was trying to do there was block the
Speaker 3: sun so that ceed can.
Speaker 2: No, sir, I'm not going there. I'm not. I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't. We heard this four or five or six
Speaker 2: years ago, but guess what we would turn out to be?
Speaker 2: Twelve and five were trying to be twelve and five
Speaker 2: were trying to be twelve and five. The tours wasn't
Speaker 2: messed up then, and the sun wasn't messed up then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Players don't give these players excuses
Speaker 2: for doing their job.
Speaker 5: You give them a soft pill to put that up.
Speaker 2: Yes. So the thing is that like this right here,
Speaker 2: these fans in this stadium help pays our bills. Bottom line.
Speaker 2: I'm through with it now. If y'all want to talk
Speaker 2: about this and then the tours, count me out, because
Speaker 2: all I want to talk about is get these young
Speaker 2: guys on the field, giving Cooper Rush an opportunity to
Speaker 2: be the guy that we saw before. Yes, the offensive
Speaker 2: line is different, Yes he has a little bit more
Speaker 2: pressure on him. But now our wide receivers, our tight
Speaker 2: ends have to make plays.
Speaker 5: You saw what else happened on that play?
Speaker 2: Right I make I don't want to.
Speaker 5: That play missed the block at the line of scrimmage, yes, sir,
Speaker 5: And why Cooper Rush was getting hit just after he
Speaker 5: threw the ball.
Speaker 2: Let's correct that, and let's get ready for those texts.
Speaker 2: I have an extra day and I'm not gonna let
Speaker 2: you waste your time on your show. Just leave leave
Speaker 2: it alone. Did you have any know?
Speaker 5: Because that's what people should be worried about.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 5: Everybody's worried about the sun. The real reason the play
Speaker 5: didn't work was because they didn't block on the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Help me, Bill, you know what.
Speaker 3: I want to hear brought it up.
Speaker 5: He said, you got to know the place.
Speaker 2: Yes, you do.
Speaker 5: And I don't think they knew the play.
Speaker 2: They gotta know them. This team will grow as the
Speaker 2: players grow. Coach McCarthy knows its own system. The offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator can tell you before the quarterback throw it, that's
Speaker 2: the wrong place to throw the ball. How do you
Speaker 2: translate it to the players. It's three ways you can
Speaker 2: do it. You can tell them and they can see
Speaker 2: it in their mind. You can put it on films
Speaker 2: so they can see it visually, or you can go
Speaker 2: through a walk through so they can see it, feel it,
Speaker 2: and hear it. And they do that right okay, And
Speaker 2: they do all of these things. Now you start saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, young man, you're not doing it. We
Speaker 2: have a guy right here, Hey man, do you really
Speaker 2: do you? Did? You do you understand what's going on here?
Speaker 2: Show me? So now you got to stop putting players
Speaker 2: behinds on the bench.
Speaker 5: That's the only reason that I got to play my
Speaker 5: first time in high school.
Speaker 3: You got to play.
Speaker 5: I knew the place.
Speaker 2: It's you.
Speaker 3: I told you. I didn't realize you got into a game.
Speaker 5: I did about three of them.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, what position did you play?
Speaker 5: Well? I was the reporter on the sideline.
Speaker 3: So you got into the game as a reporter on
Speaker 3: the side I was, I was joking your sideline.
Speaker 5: They allowed me to be on the team because they
Speaker 5: know I covered the game for the studented some good reviews. Well,
Speaker 5: I was pretty tough on I bet you were all right.
Speaker 5: I learned early.
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Speaker 5: A neat a neat deal. Did you guys go there?
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Speaker 3: Okay, tell me about awesome Richards. What did you see
Speaker 3: out of Awesome Richards and Sunday's game?
Speaker 2: You know, I saw a guy that, as the game
Speaker 2: went on, got more and more confident.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He got a little bit of help, but not a
Speaker 2: whole lot.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: He held his own. I think he got a little
Speaker 2: raggedy in the in the late fourth quarter. He got
Speaker 2: a little out of whack there a couple of times,
Speaker 2: but he's got to make sure he gets off on
Speaker 2: the snap count. He continued to work his technique. He
Speaker 2: played a fairly good game. You know, I I buy
Speaker 2: into the Hudson Hawk my old offensive line coach theory.
Speaker 2: One game doesn't make you all pro, So let's I
Speaker 2: hope he can get some more snaps, not at the
Speaker 2: cost of guiding. I don't. I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 2: But if something happened that he needs to get in there,
Speaker 2: either guard or tackle on that left side, I hope
Speaker 2: he's the first guy in. I hope, I hope. This
Speaker 2: is what I've been This is what I was trying
Speaker 2: to tell Mick from day one when it was that
Speaker 2: training camp. I say, this is got Austin Richeskin. I
Speaker 2: think he can play. I don't know how good he
Speaker 2: can be. Every practice, someone was hurt, the first guy
Speaker 2: inserted in their awesome riches. Somebody missed half of a practice,
Speaker 2: first guy to insert was awesome riches. He played the
Speaker 2: whole preseason either left guard or left tackle the whole preseason.
Speaker 2: But when we have a bump in the road a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, he does not even get a rep.
Speaker 2: So when they put him in, I was shocked that
Speaker 2: they gave him an opportunity this past game going against
Speaker 2: Josh Wett, who was not in Graham, who are not
Speaker 2: average guys. They're way above average pass rushers, and they're
Speaker 2: smart and they're intelligent veterans. So when he held his
Speaker 2: own against these guys, I hope that gives the coaching
Speaker 2: staff over their confidence that when something happens, give him,
Speaker 2: give him another opportunity. He earned the right for another opportunity.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get overly excited about it, because you
Speaker 2: can have a decent game because people don't know you.
Speaker 2: But this is the league where people scout you, and
Speaker 2: so somebody will see something that they think will work
Speaker 2: and they'll try it on him. So but if the
Speaker 2: opportunity to arise is of guiding. Something is wrong and
Speaker 2: I think a dog is he still?
Speaker 3: Here is the practice window to.
Speaker 5: Give you some food for thought. So McCarthy said that
Speaker 5: Tuma will be back at practice today and that's the
Speaker 5: first time since he got hurt.
Speaker 2: Yes, And he was.
Speaker 5: Asked with Richards, Guiton is probably healthy enough to play
Speaker 5: this week and with Richards and McCarthy interrupted, and he goes,
Speaker 5: we will have competition at that position.
Speaker 2: The thing about it is.
Speaker 5: So that was his way of not committing one way
Speaker 5: of the other the other.
Speaker 2: But the butt the bottom line, that's a dangerous game
Speaker 2: for me in my mind to play either guiding. It
Speaker 2: is truly your starter. And if you and if you
Speaker 2: start that competition and Richards beat him, what do you
Speaker 2: really do? Think about it? See, you don't have to commit.
Speaker 5: Just just how much competition is there in practice?
Speaker 2: No, regardless of however they come to the conclusion, then
Speaker 2: I'll reworded. Yeah, however they come to the conclusion, what
Speaker 2: if they decide to start Richard's again, what do you
Speaker 2: do with guiding?
Speaker 5: He wasn't ready to come back from his injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So my thing is just right here, Like
Speaker 2: coaches and pr usually tell me when I used to
Speaker 2: always run my mouth and say the most dumbest things, Nate,
Speaker 2: sometimes no comment is the best way, and to coach,
Speaker 2: they just left that open. I think.
Speaker 3: No, Well, there has been a coach here in the past,
Speaker 3: at least one who would use a press conference to
Speaker 3: send a message to the player. I don't know that
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy is one of those that does that, but
Speaker 3: there was one that you played for that would do
Speaker 3: that quite often.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: The interesting thing is like last week when he wasn't
Speaker 5: when Geiton wasn't ready to play, he was inactive, so
Speaker 5: the backup tackle was, well, let's go, he had him active. Well,
Speaker 5: now what happens if they decide Richards uh is the
Speaker 5: starter is guiding the backup or is he inactive again?
Speaker 2: You can't you keep saying, yeah, I'm trying to your question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to answer your question. You do what you want to do.
Speaker 2: And you know people saying, well, Nate, as much as
Speaker 2: you've been crying for it's awesome, richest guy to play,
Speaker 2: you should want him in there. Yes, I do want
Speaker 2: him in there, but it but you you at a
Speaker 2: point now where if you, as a coaching staff, I decided,
Speaker 2: along with your offensive line coach and your GM. Okay,
Speaker 2: this kid is truly not ready, specially now, we're going
Speaker 2: to set him the rest of the year. Now, if
Speaker 2: you're willing to do that, do it. But if you're not,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, it's still a quarterback standing up back
Speaker 2: there doing games that alive. You don't want to get
Speaker 2: him hurt playing those type games. No, No, you want
Speaker 2: to get some unity on that OFFENSI I agree, yes,
Speaker 2: So whatever they decide, I hope they go with it
Speaker 2: the rest of the year.
Speaker 5: And then you've got to figure out if Tuma's coming back.
Speaker 5: I don't know that being out this long, you get
Speaker 5: in what to practices and you're ready to be active.
Speaker 9: I would I think he's still wouldn't. It's his window.
Speaker 9: Just twenty one day start. We had a start fail
Speaker 9: because of another end his window.
Speaker 5: I'm with you on that. By the way, I know
Speaker 5: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not riding with him. I'm not riding with.
Speaker 3: Him on the subjects of Tyler Geidon. You know, in
Speaker 3: some ways he's from an experienced standpoint, a youth standpoint.
Speaker 3: He's a lot like Trey Lance hadn't played much, he
Speaker 3: hadn't played much in college. He was a defensive lineman
Speaker 3: in high school, converted to offense of lineman. He was
Speaker 3: enlisted as an h back at TCU before he transferred
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma two years ago. Was only the starter to
Speaker 3: start that season because wan Yer Morris, who now is
Speaker 3: starting at left tackle for Kansas City, was suspended at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the year. In twenty twenty two, Janie
Speaker 3: Morris came back and got in was a backup, and
Speaker 3: then last year I believe it was eight starts, maybe
Speaker 3: ten somewhere in there. And so as a right tackle,
Speaker 3: not a left tackle. And he's just he turned twenty
Speaker 3: two this summer. Awesome. Richards on the other hand, uh
Speaker 3: just turned twenty four, so he's basically two years older
Speaker 3: than Guiden. So anyway, just from the but Guiden's got
Speaker 3: the tools that the scouts love, and so that why
Speaker 3: it was the first round draft pick. And so that's
Speaker 3: why things are up in the air a little bit
Speaker 3: as far as where Guiden is in his career and
Speaker 3: if he's ready or not.
Speaker 2: I think is that he talked about this doing training
Speaker 2: camp and right before the season start that this kid
Speaker 2: hadn't had a lot of experience and I saw in
Speaker 2: training camp, and I you know, I tried to relay
Speaker 2: this to a lot of people that he needs desperately
Speaker 2: to work on his on his technique, and he needed
Speaker 2: desperately to learn to punch with those long arms. And
Speaker 2: eight nine, ten games in that's still is situation. If
Speaker 2: he used those arms, it's always gonna be a different deal.
Speaker 2: But he's always got him halfway bent and letting people
Speaker 2: get into him. He's too quick to jump back off
Speaker 2: the ball, stead him half it, excuse me. Stead of
Speaker 2: him taking a half step, he's taking a full step,
Speaker 2: which is a mile long, and people beat them to
Speaker 2: the inside. So you're going over the same things over
Speaker 2: and over and over. You know, people saying to some
Speaker 2: people it is a difference. Like I couldn't play right
Speaker 2: guard as good as I could play left guard. It
Speaker 2: was an issue for me, but it wasn't an issue
Speaker 2: for me going to right tackle, and I never figured
Speaker 2: that out. I could go to right tackle and play
Speaker 2: that okay, But I couldn't shift to right guard and
Speaker 2: play that okay. It seemed like in a tighter area
Speaker 2: because when I went on the left side, I felt
Speaker 2: like I was in a phone booth because I liked
Speaker 2: it that type it. I liked the way you couldn't
Speaker 2: get away from me, you know, And so it's just maybe,
Speaker 2: but you don't have time. All of that should have
Speaker 2: been tried doing OTAs and training camp, so you don't
Speaker 2: have time. Now the season is here, you got to
Speaker 2: make a decision. You know, we ain't allowed to look
Speaker 2: at practices and see who getting all the reps. But
Speaker 2: you ain't got time to be splitting reps. That ain't
Speaker 2: cool because now you're taking away from Tyler Smith. So
Speaker 2: you you put a guy in there, and you go
Speaker 2: with that guy.
Speaker 5: You were talking about Guidon's college. Richard's at North Carolina
Speaker 5: started thirty eight games. Oh yeah, thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I personally every other day. I know, Coach mc
Speaker 2: clari hated to see me coming because I was having
Speaker 2: I had a new angle on how he could play.
Speaker 2: He's just sharing the training camp. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 2: new anger. But coach, you ever thought about this for
Speaker 2: for for awesome Richards? And he would just shake his head,
Speaker 2: smile and pat me on the back and keep going.
Speaker 5: Why you always thought he was a better tackle than
Speaker 5: a guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just believe this. Give him, give
Speaker 2: him the reps. Uh. Now you can. Now you can
Speaker 2: feel confident as a coaching staff to put him in
Speaker 2: if something happened either left guard a left tackle. So
Speaker 2: now now t J. Bass, who is a good I
Speaker 2: think gonna be a good guard in this league. Now
Speaker 2: you you relegate him just to the right guard, you know,
Speaker 2: and let him if something happened to uh to the
Speaker 2: point where you don't want to put Zack in there
Speaker 2: he's Sack is beat up. But anyway, you know, not
Speaker 2: play him, but you can let TJ. Bass. I think
Speaker 2: we have a nucleus of offensive linemen that can be good.
Speaker 2: You know, that can be good. Now, I'm not telling
Speaker 2: the fans they're going to be great or they superman,
Speaker 2: because we haven't seen enough of them playing together. But
Speaker 2: I think we have a group of good young guys.
Speaker 2: Each one of them has a weakness, you know, but
Speaker 2: over time, if they can mentally get through this season,
Speaker 2: if they can mentally get themselves through the season, they
Speaker 2: will be much better next year.
Speaker 3: Look at your own career, I'm just looking back in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six. Yeah, you when you got in your
Speaker 3: first NFL game, you were twenty four years old, Yes,
Speaker 3: and turned twenty five late in that season in eighty six,
Speaker 3: started your first NFL game in eighty seven at age
Speaker 3: twenty five, Yes, and then started a twelve years run
Speaker 3: of starting every game basically, But we look at the difference.
Speaker 3: You were twenty five when they started.
Speaker 2: In USFL and needed the USFL.
Speaker 3: And Tyler Goeyton just turned twenty two this summer and
Speaker 3: he's being asked to That's why I thought, even in
Speaker 3: training camp, it was going to be a big ask
Speaker 3: to have a twenty two year old with such limited
Speaker 3: college experience start every game over a seventeen game season.
Speaker 2: And I tried to present that to people, and you
Speaker 2: you can crush your kid. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: him being crushed mentally because I hope he's not listening
Speaker 2: to our shows. I hope he was, but I hope
Speaker 2: he is, but not. But when you get up and
Speaker 2: tell people how good they are, you know you're not good.
Speaker 2: He's not good, and he's not this, and he's not this.
Speaker 2: And then the cowboys kind of go along with you
Speaker 2: and they get rid of the kid, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they pop up on TV and you see
Speaker 2: him like, yeah, we had him, but remember he wasn't mature.
Speaker 2: And that's what I tell people, mentally and physically in
Speaker 2: this league, you have to mature. You can have all
Speaker 2: the talent in the world, but if you're not physically
Speaker 2: and mentally ready for this grown man game, it can
Speaker 2: hurt you.
Speaker 3: Let me give you another one who actually was with
Speaker 3: the Cowboys early on out of Arkansas. Guy by the
Speaker 3: name of Jason Peters.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in two thousand and four with Buffalo, he was
Speaker 3: twenty two years old. This is after he was first
Speaker 3: like a college free agent fined by the Cowboys with
Speaker 3: Buffalo five games, one start, age twenty three. He started
Speaker 3: half the season in Buffalo, Okay, and then two thousand
Speaker 3: and six at age twenty four is the first time
Speaker 3: he had played sixteen games, And here we are in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and he still was getting a look
Speaker 3: this year again from Seattle at age forty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: So did you start the season in eighty seven? What
Speaker 5: game did Nate for you said he played?
Speaker 3: Let's see, you played in eighty seven eleven starts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know how hard it is, and three were
Speaker 5: replacement games.
Speaker 2: Assume I crossed the figure line. Yeah money, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm saying guys talking about yeah, be loyal, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: sold out for money too. But anyway, we need to.
Speaker 3: Take a break, yes, sir, and I'll continue that thought
Speaker 3: when we come back here on mixed shots.
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Speaker 3: Micah Parsons has tweeted this here in the last hour,
Speaker 3: when Mozzie becomes great exclamation points because he is on
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Speaker 3: his way. All of you will owe me an apology.
Speaker 5: He's a proponent of Mizzie Smith. He always has been
Speaker 5: worked with him, encouraged him during training camp on a
Speaker 5: daily basis. Yes, he did, ran with him, Yes he did,
Speaker 5: tried to get him in tip top shape and he
Speaker 5: still believes.
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Speaker 5: There you go in one of the reasons talking about
Speaker 5: Overshawn young Superstar, I would imagine sorry he talked about
Speaker 5: him after the game. He had the really good things
Speaker 5: to say about him.
Speaker 3: And who doesn't have good things?
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially after that performance. Huh So. One other position
Speaker 5: that seems to be somewhat a problem is the left
Speaker 5: cornerback position, and as you saw in the game, Philadelphia
Speaker 5: picked on Kaylin Carson. As a matter of fact, on
Speaker 5: that drive at the end of the first half, they
Speaker 5: went on him four or five plays for completions. So
Speaker 5: when I asked McCarthy about Bland, he said he's still
Speaker 5: with the rehab group and they have to put him
Speaker 5: on the fifty three. I believe this week because they
Speaker 5: started his twenty one day window.
Speaker 2: So if he's not true.
Speaker 3: They don't if he's done for the season.
Speaker 5: Right, and I would imagine they do they will, although
Speaker 5: then you got to, well, I guess they put Dak
Speaker 5: on IR so they'll have a spot for him. But
Speaker 5: if you noticed in that game in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 5: they put mccwalmew at left corner, right, So I wonder
Speaker 5: what happens this week. And I don't know that because.
Speaker 3: Collins is coming back for the Texans this week. He's
Speaker 3: been on IR and they said he could have played
Speaker 3: last week. They waited another week and he'll be ready
Speaker 3: to come back Monday night.
Speaker 5: And if you noticed in the game, and I don't
Speaker 5: mean to go backwards, Nate, you can, you can Trayvon
Speaker 5: Diggs picked that ball in the end zone. I don't
Speaker 5: think they threw his way the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: They did, they didn't, They just picked on it on
Speaker 2: a young kid. Carson's uh sometime, you know, like everthing
Speaker 2: you know I caught everything in the hall. We was
Speaker 2: talking about sometime you just got to throw caution to
Speaker 2: the win. He's an upclose flare and he's playing saw yeah,
Speaker 2: so he's got he's got to say, you know what,
Speaker 2: they drafted me for a reason. They're sticking with me,
Speaker 2: and this is happening. Let me go back to the
Speaker 2: old men. Come up and bump and run a little
Speaker 2: bit better, give them at least a different look this kid.
Speaker 2: Like I said, this is gonna be a bumping, grind
Speaker 2: year only for you. If you from the neck up
Speaker 2: absorb what has happened to you, break it down and
Speaker 2: see why it happened to you, you can come back
Speaker 2: next year a much better player. Don't let this year
Speaker 2: drain you. You still have seven to eight with nine games, Well,
Speaker 2: you still have to get through this season. Look at
Speaker 2: this film and see where you at. Go to your
Speaker 2: coach and see what the little things that he thinks
Speaker 2: you should work on in the little things and see
Speaker 2: if they come together and do your job. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be ugly. It's like running in mud man. It's like
Speaker 2: you're spinning your wheels, but you gotta keep going because
Speaker 2: eventually you're gonna hit solid grind and take off running.
Speaker 5: It's like he lost his confidence.
Speaker 2: He has lost his confident. Ain't like he has when
Speaker 2: you when it's third and eight and you back up
Speaker 2: the third and twelve. Yeah, I mean you're giving him
Speaker 2: more than the first down. I mean you giving him
Speaker 2: first down an opportunity to break a big plate. So, yes,
Speaker 2: he's he's lost his confidence. And that's where I know
Speaker 2: coach A. I. Harris is telling him, probably over coaching him, son,
Speaker 2: move up, challenge you better than that. Use your hands.
Speaker 2: You got great feet. You know, he's believe me what
Speaker 2: we were saying, they're saying over there much probably much louder.
Speaker 5: Well, So that's one thing to keep an eye on.
Speaker 5: Brandon Cooks sounds like he's close to returning. He's still rehabbing,
Speaker 5: but he's running really well. So it'll be interesting to
Speaker 5: see if they can get him back. And then I
Speaker 5: think they're going to try and get with an extra
Speaker 5: day this week, maybe get Mingo ready to give him
Speaker 5: a small package and get them ready to go. You know,
Speaker 5: I saw him out there the other day and he
Speaker 5: was just doing some drills and catching the ball. He's big,
Speaker 5: that's six ' two. You know, when he's out there
Speaker 5: around normal people, that's a big receiver. So it'd be
Speaker 5: interesting to see if they can get him going.
Speaker 2: Also, you know what, I'm not going and I know
Speaker 2: I'm the only one thinking this, but he he should
Speaker 2: be playing a certain amount of plays this week and
Speaker 2: he should be almost starting next week. Do not let
Speaker 2: this kid. If you I hear all these great things, Hey,
Speaker 2: they loved them on their draft board. Oh they were excited. Okay,
Speaker 2: if you're excited about this kid, he just came from
Speaker 2: a team that didn't fit his system. That's how you
Speaker 2: have to look at a team that.
Speaker 3: He didn't finish changed since they drafted.
Speaker 2: Now, if all of this great stuff you are saying
Speaker 2: put him on the field, what can he do worse
Speaker 2: than what has happened?
Speaker 5: And he's the easiest one to find out about, right,
Speaker 5: because next year you're gonna draft a wide receiver, right.
Speaker 2: Maybe not?
Speaker 5: Maybe not?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: If you think this guy can be a number two.
Speaker 3: That's why you made the move for him at mid
Speaker 3: season this year, so that you can figure out what
Speaker 3: he is. And you might have stolen a guy you
Speaker 3: look at it as an early draft pick from for
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 2: My issue is simply this play this kid. See we
Speaker 2: send in all these mixed singles. Oh, we don't want
Speaker 2: to think, well, we don't want people to think that
Speaker 2: we done gave up on the season. Well, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be honest with you. When you put Trey Lance in
Speaker 2: the game, what are you telling a guy like me
Speaker 2: who played, You're giving up on the season. And you
Speaker 2: least gave up on that game. So now the more
Speaker 2: we put Trey Lance in, whether you want to believe
Speaker 2: it or not, Zach Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence and whoever else
Speaker 2: got more than five years in the league saying, well, fellas,
Speaker 2: it's all about what am I doing right and what
Speaker 2: am I doing wrong? Can they depend on me as
Speaker 2: a veteran because I got to do my job. It's
Speaker 2: because everybody's on audition, that is the bottom line. So
Speaker 2: now everybody can tell folks what you want to tell them.
Speaker 2: But I promise you when you do that right there,
Speaker 2: I've been I've been one in fifteen and hearing a
Speaker 2: coach say everybody's on audition. If I'm coach McCarthy, I'm
Speaker 2: just telling them the truth, Fellas. Everybody's getting our only
Speaker 2: three people Michael c d Lamb, Dak only three that
Speaker 2: ain't on audition. Everybody else you fighting for your job.
Speaker 3: And when you look at the wide receiver room with
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks injured, Okay, outside of c d Lamb, you
Speaker 3: got a third round draft pick in Jalen Tolbert. You
Speaker 3: got a college free agent or a seventh round draft
Speaker 3: pick in Jalen Brooks. You got a sixth round draft
Speaker 3: pick in Ryan f Illinoy, and you got Cavante Turpin
Speaker 3: who was a college free agent and was a USFL guy,
Speaker 3: And so it makes a lot of sense that and
Speaker 3: you got Jalen Cropper, a college free agent last year.
Speaker 5: They elevated this last year, right.
Speaker 3: And so Mingo with a second round draft pick, see
Speaker 3: what he's See what he's got?
Speaker 5: I oh, I'm I'm all for it.
Speaker 2: And I think you're.
Speaker 5: Lacking at least he's played too, right, he is. He
Speaker 5: played fourteen games.
Speaker 3: Last year, that's right. He had forty three catches last year.
Speaker 2: I just I'm telling I hate the season is going
Speaker 2: the way it is going out Because I'm a big
Speaker 2: proponent of coach McCarthy. I am and you and as
Speaker 2: a head coach, the worst thing you want to see
Speaker 2: is young, inexperienced guys running out there. But coach, you
Speaker 2: ran with two out there and the most important positions
Speaker 2: on your team, center and left tackle. So you had
Speaker 2: to know things was gonna get a little dicey. You
Speaker 2: know it's just now. Can the owner, president, GM slash
Speaker 2: whatever say, hey, you know what I saw your problems
Speaker 2: last year?
Speaker 3: All right, you need to take a break because you
Speaker 3: got some more talking to do.
Speaker 2: Well on, I got Jesse, okay, so you don't have
Speaker 2: to talk now. That's my boy. You're going rock and rolls.
Speaker 2: All right.
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