1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: by searching app as car Boom, What Up America, Doug 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show, Fuck Sports Radio. Uh, we're trendsetting here in 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: the DG Show. We're doing stuff differently. We're trying things 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: that others won't try and others won't do. Welcome in. 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's some text change. You get on and 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: you're like, I just can't like, somebody find a way 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: to meet this check chain. There's some text change. You're like, 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: this is awesome. I'm looking at my text chain last 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: night and it suddenly became a Hockey Night in America. 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Hockey Night in America. It was good. So yeah, we're 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna start the show talking about the hockey a A 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: welcome in, don't worry, don't worry. We got some Joe 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Flacco talking about TikTok dancing. Eddie House is gonna join us, 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: of course, he's the two thousand and eight NBA Championship team. 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: He was on that Boston team, he played with Lebron. 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: He's got a couple of sons that are really really 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: talented players. Plus I just love and value his basketball opinion. 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: He'll join us at twenty five after the hour, we 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: got some Jalen Brunston and Josh Hart to talk about. 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Mark Stein will join us next hour, so we've got 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: plenty of hoops. I know Game four US tonight, it 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: is a pivotal game, and we'll talk about it. But 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: I I actually like hockey, but I hate this one 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: big part about hockey. And look, obviously the pieces are 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: kind of similar to I know the sport is different, 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: but there's some similarities there to soccer, and I think 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: some of the similarities to soccer not as much so 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: are in this one thing. First again, welcome in. The 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: US Open is ongoing, and we'll we'll we'll talk about Oakmont. 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: I also want to kind of quiz Dan Byron, like 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I saw these pictures of the ninety four Open, and 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: there's now they've made it into this linksy track and 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: now it's like old golf links golf whatever, whereas before 39 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Oakmont was almost felt like classic American style country club golf, 40 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know, do we like this better? It's 41 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: this a better way of you took the same course, 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: but it's completely different now. But last time, I'm watching 43 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup finals and it sort of dawned on 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: me as I'm looking at my text thread and watching 45 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: the game take place, that I knew how it was 46 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: gonna end, and it was going to be a I 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: don't know it was a self fulfilling prophecy, or there 48 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: would just be there would just be a lot of 49 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: confirmation bias in it. Did anyone think that the best 50 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: team won last night? That's I guess my question. Do 51 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: you think the best team won? And my answer would be, well, no, 52 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: that actually didn't happen. Edmonton's taking on Florida. I thought 53 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Florida was the better team. I thought Florida was the 54 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: team that was dominant in overtime, and yet they lose 55 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: five to four. Edmonton ties the series into a piece 56 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: and the last three games have all gone to overtime. 57 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: But my point is more geez, I thought, you know, 58 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and I don't profess to know much anything about hockey, 59 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: and like I'm the track classic American sports fan, ninety 60 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: five percent of us didn't play hockey growing up, never 61 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: played hockey on skates like it like. The extent of 62 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: my hockey years were the mid nineties ninety three and 63 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: ninety four. Specifically, that's when Wayne Gretzky took the Kings 64 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: to the Stanley Cup finals, and that's when NHL ninety 65 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: four was out and there was also Blades of Steel. 66 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: Those are that's the extent of my the deep hockey 67 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: years for me and Buyer, I'm sure you know more 68 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: about hockey than I do. Sam. I read your texts 69 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: and I agree with you. My issue with hockey is 70 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the randomness at times of how goals are scored in 71 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: many ways takes away from who's actually the better team. 72 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: And I get the larger sample size of a season 73 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: is different, and ultimately the good teams the good teams. 74 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: But when you're in a playoff hockey and everyone who's 75 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: a hockey fan loves to have the same narrative, nothing 76 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: better than overtime hockey. But I would say there's lots 77 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: of things better than overtime hockey because in other sports again, 78 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: and look this happens in football, where a team will dominate, 79 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: but they got a turnover here or there, or a 80 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: couple of crazy plays can happen some in basketball, where 81 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: you know a team could play very well and you 82 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: catch a heater end of the game. He hit a 83 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: bunch of threes. It happened with the Pacers going back 84 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: to the next series, Game one. But by and large, 85 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: if a team is dominant is better for ninety five 86 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: percent of overtime, by and large, are gonna win, and 87 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: they'll be up so much you know won't matter. Not 88 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: the case with hockey. I think the two things I 89 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: dislike about hockey is one hockey fan is the male 90 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: version of the WNBA fan. Hey, you haven't paid attentions 91 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: for twenty five years, and then when you do pay 92 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: attention to us, you don't know what you're talking about. 93 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: That's annoying. And then the annoying game action thing is 94 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I just have a tough time saying that Edmonton was 95 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: in any way better than Florida last night, specifically in overtime, 96 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: because I thought Florida out played him and then Edmonton 97 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: ends up with a goal. 98 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: I thought that Edmonton played I mean, they were down 99 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: three to nothing, so they obviously played well enough in 100 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: the second period to even it up at three, and 101 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: then they get the goal to go ahead. I think 102 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: Florida played better at the end and then into overtime 103 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: that I felt that they had all of the momentum. 104 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: But I think that is part of it as well 105 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: is as someone who isn't a huge hockey fan and 106 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: also can get annoyed by a hockey fan. What I 107 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: loved about this overtime and other overtimes. Not only do 108 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: ioas Sam and I now have a vested interest in 109 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Edmonton winning, but there's also this balance. There's this balance 110 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: of do you play it safe, do you go for it? 111 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: What do you do? And if you go for it, 112 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: does that leave you week on the back end if 113 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: there's something that leaks out And that's what you got 114 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: last night. Florida actually had had a great chance in 115 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: overtime to win it and was unable to cash in. 116 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: I felt that they put more pressure on Edmonton. Edmonton 117 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: really didn't have any good chances and ultimately their goal 118 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: comes on a bit of a fluke play. But it's 119 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: also no difference. And this may not change your opinion, Doug, 120 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: but we've had hot goalies in the past, right where 121 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: teams are just they've got the guy in net and 122 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: there's nothing that you can do about it. And I 123 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: think that when you have just the the balance, specifically 124 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: in overtime of sudden death in her take all, were 125 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: every single possession, every almost pass of the puck could 126 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: alter the game. I find that very exciting. 127 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: Uh, Sam, where are you on? Going off of your 128 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: comments that you agree with me? But again Dan made 129 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: bigger comments, some having to do with what I'm talking about, 130 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: but obviously more thorough in terms of his analysis. 131 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: What's your what's your question? 132 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Just like, well, again, when you walk away from last night, 133 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I do you think the better team won? Do you 134 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: think that I? And is? And is it? That? Was 135 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: it exciting to the point where it's bringing you. 136 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: Back, bringing me back to watch the next game? 137 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 138 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 139 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: I think this has been I don't know how to 140 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: size up these teams, Like I know, Florida is technically 141 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: better because they bested the Oilers last year and they 142 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: were the favorite coming into this Stanley Cup. All I 143 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: know is that, like you know, three of the four 144 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: games have been over time have been pretty exciting. 145 00:08:59,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 146 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: You know, you've got teams winning on the road this 147 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: is a good product. I'm not a hockey guy. I 148 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: don't I don't know how to size these teams up, 149 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: but I know that the Oilers have a couple of 150 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: huge stars in Dry Sydle and McDavid and the. 151 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: Last night Why did you like last night's game? 152 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: That's a great question. 153 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: I feel like the I feel like the Edmonton Oilers 154 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: kind of have this like Pacers kind of energy, like 155 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm just pulling for him, and I know 156 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: that they're not They're not the better team than than 157 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, but they find ways to at least tie 158 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: up the series or take a lead like the Pacers 159 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: did in this in the series. And that's just got me, 160 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: got me hooked. I yeah, it's a good It's been 161 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: a good fine, a good product. 162 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: All right, Jay Stu, Now again, I'm gonna Jay Stu, 163 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where you come in on hockey. I mean, 164 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: we you and I have talked about it some, but 165 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: for for people don't know, Jay Stu was a huge 166 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: part of the Jim Rome Show for a long time. 167 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: How many years you with with Rome? 168 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: Uh? Fourteen years? 169 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Fourteen? It's actually the numb I thought, but I said 170 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: it and I was like, is that the right number? 171 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: Andy Reid? Andy? Just for listeners who want to want 172 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: a reference, my time with Jim Rome mirrored Andy Reid's 173 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: time with the Eagles. 174 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 175 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: Okay, so An you tell me you want to think about, man, 176 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: how long will Jess do with Jim Rome? Think Andy 177 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: Reid with the Eagles. 178 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: That's actually very helpful. 179 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: I bring it up because and I don't know if 180 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Rome's affinity for hockey was real or just radio creation, 181 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: but I will say that you guys talk more hockey 182 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: than anybody. I mean, I honestly, my thought, well our 183 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: thought always when I was at ESPN Radio was Rome's 184 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: talking hockey. Everybody else wins because the second you talk 185 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: about hockey, people go, Nick, don't care, right, And you 186 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: guys talk hockey some like regular season, early playoffs, not 187 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: just Stanley Cup finals. Were you Have you been as 188 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: engaged and locked in on hockey even during those fourteen years. 189 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: No. Never. 190 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: It's a sport that has never once with me. I 191 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: have good friends that are hockey fans, good friends that 192 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: are Kings fans, and they've always said, man, you got 193 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: to go. Once you go, you'll be hooked. 194 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I've gone NASCAR Guy says the same thing. By the way, 195 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: Nascar guy always goes, you gotta go. 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: Go, and neither sport got me when I went in 197 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: the the premise of your question, did the better team win? 198 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: That assumes two things. That assumes I watched, and that 199 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: assumes that even if I did watch, I would have 200 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 4: the sophistication to know which team is better. To your point, 201 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 4: one of the things that turns me off about the 202 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: sport is how random it is. Especially this is the 203 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: part that really gets me. When there's that the puck 204 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: is in front of the goalie and the goalie hasn't 205 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: secured it, and everyone is just chopping the hell out 206 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: of the ice to hit the puck and then it 207 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: goes off the goalie's leg and into the into the goal. 208 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: I see zero gill and that. So it's hard for 209 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: me to get with stuff. 210 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Like that that I completely agree with you on that, 211 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: and I normally agree with you on the level of sophistication. 212 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: Like it's like when I watch soccer highlights or I 213 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: watch halftime of soccer, the analysis is so weird because 214 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: they talk about spirit and energy, Like just tell me 215 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: who's playing better and why tried to explain me why 216 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: something's playing better. I don't know. Last time I was 217 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: watching and I did really agree with Sam. I just 218 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: remember looking down at my phone and Sam had just 219 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: texted us saying like they're dominating in overtime, and I 220 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I mean they're not dominating in the score, obviously, 221 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: but it does feel like Edmonton is just staving off 222 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: losing this thing play after play, just surviving. So I 223 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: like the sophistication as well. Jay s Douo and I'm 224 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: with you, it's never really resonated. I Alsos thought it 225 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: was cool. I'm like, yeah, it's cool sport, it's really hard. 226 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know anything about it. 227 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: You know, there there is something, and it's a reason 228 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: why we say there's nothing better than playoff hockey, because 229 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: you don't get this sense of urgency in the regular season. 230 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: And for as much as we may love the five 231 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: minutes that they play three on three, still a team 232 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, ends up ends up winning and maybe they don't, 233 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: and then you just move on to the next game. 234 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it's exciting for those five minutes, but there is 235 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: something about this urgency, of the sudden death nature of 236 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: it where even the goal last night ended up being, 237 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, a situation where it was two passes earlier 238 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: that probably set up the goal. And I know that's 239 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: not for everybody, but that's to my point of why 240 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: every possession or what you do with the puck is 241 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: another opportunity to win or lose the game. You may 242 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: look at it from a perspective of, well, there are 243 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: no goals, just like Game two when they didn't score 244 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: any goals in the first overtime, but twenty minutes you 245 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: have a back and forth of this game could be 246 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: decided on this sort of play. Honestly, as somebody who 247 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: was cheering for Edmonton last night, the first five minutes 248 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: of overtime felt like twenty minutes of game time because 249 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: it didn't seem like they were in control, and you're 250 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: just like, my goodness, when is this going to When 251 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: are you gonna be able to do something here? It 252 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: felt like Florida had all the chances and all the momentum, 253 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: and I remember looking up at the clock and I'm like, wow, 254 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: there's only like five point twenty that's gone by in 255 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: this overtime session. Ultimately, from what you guys are saying, 256 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: how the game ends is an indicative of how the 257 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: end of the game was played, and that's what's frustrating 258 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: to you. But I just look at it as like, 259 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: if you have a dog in the fight, every single possession, 260 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: every single pass that you have could set up that goal. 261 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: And that's what that's what makes it interesting. It's met 262 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: it interesting to me with a with a dog in 263 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: this fight. 264 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: It's a fair way to look at it's a fair persective. 265 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: But yes, that's ultimately I do sometimes become a result 266 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: orienton like I don't I don't understand, and it hurts 267 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: my desire to view the sport because I just don't 268 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: understand or maybe I do, or say maybe that's that's 269 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: that's hockey. It's like we talk about that space. 270 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the funny thing as well. Just quickly, like 271 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: as we're having this conversation, we're talking and I'm not 272 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: pigging on Sam. I think that this is a this 273 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: is a legitimate thing that goes on. We're looking at 274 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Florida as being the halves and Edmonton being the have 275 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: nots for what's not happened in hockey. Edmonton is home ice. 276 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: They both were three seeds in their conferences. Edmonton actually 277 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: finished with more points this season. They have the best 278 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: player in all of hockey. So there are all these 279 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: seemingly inherent advantages towards Edmonton that we really don't pay 280 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: attention to because we look at the Panthers as the 281 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: defending Stanley Cup champs, and we look at Edmonton as 282 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: trying to break through with Canada and again Canadian streak. Yeah, 283 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: and I think that's awesome. I actually think it's awesome 284 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: that it's it's a bit of the opposite. So like 285 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: we try compare it to the NBA, that's not necessarily 286 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: the case. And I'm talking as a guy that didn't 287 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: care about last year's Stanley Cup, even with Edmonton in it. 288 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: There is something about this year's that just brought me 289 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: in and I have no idea what it was. And 290 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the NBA and having the 291 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: playoffs be how they played out. But my buddy back 292 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin that I visited a couple of weeks ago, 293 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: who I never thought would ever watch a hockey game. 294 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: We're sitting at Buffalo Wild Wings eating and goes. It's 295 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: been really good because I've watched it more than the NBA, 296 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: and I found that very interesting. 297 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: It was a Buffalo wild wings order. 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: I did a boneless with some honey barbecue, garlic palm, 299 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: and I think I did a medium with it. 300 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: They have a new they have like a new honey 301 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: barbecue ranch or something like all combining ones. 302 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: Yummy. 303 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: Yes. 304 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 305 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 306 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: Fox BA, Sorts Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 307 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. It's the 308 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: Doug gotleep Show, Fox Sports Radio. Any house in a moment. 309 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: But if you're wondering what's going on in Oakmont, Doug 310 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so buyer, 311 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: I was watching I think it was on social media 312 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: show the ninety four Open at Oakmont. And it's like 313 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: a completely different course, right. It's like someone's like photoshop, 314 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: like if you cut out all the trees, what do 315 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: you think of transformation of this course? 316 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 317 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I was thinking about this driving 318 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: in because they were talking about it as I was 319 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: listening to the broadcast. And this has been like that 320 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: for the last couple of opens, but it's always remains 321 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: a story. And it's crazy because it's named Oakmont, you 322 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: would think there'd be just tons of oak trees. No, 323 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: not the case. But yeah, I don't necessarily can you 324 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: call it Oakman if there's no oaks? Right? Something we 325 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: can get into later. 326 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: No, we get into now. 327 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean, oh, okay, all right, I'm sorry, house on 328 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: hold them. 329 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: So no, no, he's we'll get him a second. So 330 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: what was the impetus behind the course change? So because 331 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: it is a dramatic change, yes, like it's literally from 332 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: country club golf to Lynskulf. 333 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: So prior to the two thousand and seven US Open, 334 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: they wanted to restore Oakmont to what its original layout was, 335 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: and that was basically no trees. And the stories they 336 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: told telling up to that point is they would sometimes 337 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: go out at night to cut the trees down so 338 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: membership wouldn't necessarily know that they were cutting trees down. 339 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: And after a while, all of a sudden, all these 340 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: trees were cut down. You know, wait, like wait a second, hey, 341 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: that's missing. But it was to reflect and restore to 342 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: what the course was from the beginning from Henry Phones 343 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: then Doug. There's also been this move away from more 344 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: link style. Trees don't help grass grow. You're seeing a 345 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: lot more courses remove trees. It's better for the grass, 346 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: it's better for the turf. But this was more to 347 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: be true to what Oakmont originally was, and it went 348 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: under a recent restoration, which has been the main story 349 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: heading into this open where gil Hans took it over 350 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: and they've taken parts of the design that the different 351 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: designs that have occurred early on in Oakmont days and 352 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: tried to blend them into what is this current course. 353 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: But it did not have trees in its early going, 354 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: and the trees just ended up growing and growing throughout 355 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: the years. But that was the initial reason why they 356 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: decided to take them down prior to the seven Open. 357 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: It is interesting, as you point out, you had so 358 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: many different course designers coming in, it becomes you know, 359 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I had no idea that's what it originally was. I 360 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: just didn't. But on some levels, when you have multiple 361 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: course designers, it's like when you have a really cool house, 362 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: It's like, did you have different contractors here? Like, no, 363 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: they redid this in Oa and they redid this, and 364 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, in fifteen and we just redid this or whatever, 365 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: and sometimes you get different tastes, but it is definitely 366 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: a linksy style. Now. It definitely looks like the original 367 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: game of golf, if you will, and it looks crazy, crazy, difficult. 368 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: And there are some that don't like that it doesn't 369 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: have trees. And there was even some conversation of this 370 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: week that you know, is it too far one way 371 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to the other, because when you and I 372 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: play golf or others play golf, trees do make a difference. 373 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: They absolutely do. But I don't know if it's necessarily 374 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: needed at Oakmont just because of the defense is how 375 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: fast their greens are. When the US Open puts the 376 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: rough like this, you're getting scores like this. 377 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn from the US Open to the 378 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Eddie House won in an NBA championship in 379 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Dude is awesome breaking it down 380 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: TV Radio joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show 381 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Eddie, what's what's your what's your 382 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: EVL of what's going? What went wrong for the thunder 383 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter in Game three? 384 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 6: I think, uh, just Rick Carlisle his the way he 385 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 6: uh changes defenders on Shay, so Shay has to face 386 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 6: you know, say is so talented, you know, obviously the 387 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: league MVP. But I think what happened was picking him 388 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: up ninety four feet wearing him down. And I think 389 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: what okay C needs to do is make an adjustment. 390 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: And that's what I'm looking for tonight, to see what 391 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 6: kind of adjustment uh daggonof is gonna make as far 392 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 6: as because what I would do, I would take Shaye 393 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 6: off the ball. I would not allow him until the 394 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: fourth quarter. I wouldn't have him bring the ball up. 395 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 6: You know, I will have him get the ball with 396 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 6: a live dribble as opposed to having to bring the 397 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 6: ball up and have to fight ninety four feet to 398 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 6: get to his spot and then everybody else just standing around. No, 399 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: I will run my offense through somebody else. Jalen Williams 400 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 6: has to step up and then from there in the 401 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 6: fourth quarter, state could go to work. You just want 402 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 6: to try to conserve is as much energy for him 403 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 6: as you can. 404 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think they're tired? Do you think that's 405 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: one of the things hurting the thunder? 406 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: No? 407 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 6: Man? No, Yeah, A young young man they're not tired. Man, 408 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 6: You remember how you was when you was twenty six 409 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 6: twenty seven, or you was twenty three twenty four, You 410 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 6: wasn't You didn't get tired and you wanted to play. 411 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 6: I don't think that they're tired. I think that you 412 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 6: can wear on somebody, you know what I mean, and 413 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 6: you can make it where you're uncomfortable, and I don't 414 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 6: think more so than being tired. I think Shay this 415 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 6: was uncomfortable the whole time because he's usually able to 416 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: just get to a spot moved easily, but they made 417 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: him have to work for everything. So I won't buy 418 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 6: the tiredness because you know, anybody that won a championship, 419 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 6: anybody that played in the playoffs, anybody has that long run. 420 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 6: You all go through it, but especially if when you 421 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 6: in the finals. Man, there's no uh, you can't use 422 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 6: that as a crutch or. 423 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: Excuse hey, help me out, Eddie. Can you figure out 424 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Tyre's Haliburton. There's some games that he plays where he 425 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: just kind of plays and floats and doesn't have a 426 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: huge impact, and then there are other games in which 427 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: he feels way more aggressive and he does have a 428 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: huge impact. I know it's just kind of unique. What 429 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Halliburton and why some games he's 430 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: just not he's just not dominating in any way. 431 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 6: Well, he does in different ways. Right as far as assistance, right, 432 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 6: he always his assist numbers are always pretty much up. 433 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 6: I think the fact of the matter is that he 434 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 6: has to be aggressive offensively. And sometimes it's a traditional 435 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 6: point guard. You're a traditional point guard. You played that position. 436 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: So sometimes you're not going to have a high you're 437 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 6: not gonna have a lot of points in certain games. 438 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 6: But then you got to understand that that happy medium, 439 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, where you're like, Okay, I 440 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 6: have to be more aggressive and this series, and that's 441 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 6: the thing about it. Every series is different, every game 442 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 6: is every quarter is different, every half is different, every 443 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 6: game is different. And I believe that he understands that 444 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: he has to put his foot on the gas for 445 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 6: them to be for them to win. And it's and 446 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 6: being aggressive. You know, people mix it up when when 447 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 6: when we say be aggressive, that doesn't necessarily mean that 448 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 6: you have to the ball all the time. That means 449 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 6: just put pressure and be aggressive and you can make 450 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 6: the right play, whether it be a play for yourself 451 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 6: or a play for others. That's what I when I 452 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 6: say aggressive, you know, and a lot of people think 453 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 6: about aggressiveness is oh, you just got to go score, 454 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 6: You got to get up thirty shots. And now sometimes 455 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 6: you don't have to do that. Sometimes you don't. 456 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: Eddie House, our guest. You're at the Doug Gottlieb Show 457 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's uh, well, let's 458 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: get around the NBA just a little bit. Kevin Durant. 459 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks he's gonna be traded. Where's the best spot 460 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: for him? 461 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 462 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 6: Man, you know it's it's a lot of good destinations 463 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 6: for him. If I was okay, see, even though they're 464 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 6: in this thing right now, they got a ton of 465 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 6: assets as far as draft picks and things like that. 466 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 6: And if you trade a guy like KD, then you're 467 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 6: looking to basically rebuild, you know, if you're a phoenix. 468 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: So I will, okay, see, would be somebody that I 469 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: will be interested in. I'm not sure what everything that 470 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 6: the Rockets have over there, what they can make happen, 471 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 6: but they're red, they're ready made right now to keep 472 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 6: trying to push I think maybe Jalen Green and do 473 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: you want to get off a youngster that that fast. 474 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 6: I don't know, you know what I mean for somebody 475 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 6: that's old improving older, I should say improving. Uh so 476 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 6: I would say it would be I think it would 477 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 6: be a happy marriage between okay see and uh for 478 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: him to go back to ok se. 479 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: Uh. I do too. I just again, we're it feels 480 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: like if he's going to be traded now or if 481 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: the discuss her now, I don't know if And again 482 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if Okac is in that mode, but yeah, 483 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: they do need they need a guy who win the 484 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: house is on fires, like I got it. I'll get 485 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: us a bucket. We're good. They just don't don't have that. 486 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: If if you're the Celtics. 487 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 6: What do you do, Well, you got to look at uh, 488 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 6: you know, a Drew Holliday contract. You got to look 489 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 6: at a Christaps Porzingis, who has you know, shown that 490 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 6: he's been you know, injury prone. Uh you know, I 491 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 6: don't know what was going on last I mean this 492 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 6: past season. They still hasn't been disclosed what kind of 493 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 6: illness that he had. But the fact of the matter 494 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 6: that he wasn't there. But he's the people Christoph KP 495 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 6: is the people's champ. Everybody loves him, not only in 496 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 6: when you go into the garden, but when you on 497 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 6: the road and when he comes out, the people go 498 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 6: crazy for him. 499 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Right. 500 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 6: So I think that you are, you know, Sam Houser, though, 501 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 6: I think those are the contracts that you could look 502 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 6: at and you know, you could try to put something 503 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 6: together and see if you know, if Kadie com if 504 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 6: you're still didn't win mold right now, Jalen Brown, I 505 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 6: don't think that you. I don't think that you get 506 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 6: rid of Jalen Brown. I don't to me the readon 507 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 6: why I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown because Jason Tatum's not there, 508 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 6: and you have to have that star power there, and 509 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 6: you have to have two star powers, you know, and 510 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: I think that I think that that will be like 511 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 6: kind of the way to go. So you have to 512 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 6: unload some of these other other contracts. I wouldn't get 513 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 6: rid of Dereck White. I wouldn't get rid of Dereck 514 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 6: White at all. He does so much Eddie House. 515 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Of course, Eddie we truly appreciates joining us. He's an 516 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: analyst for NBC Sports Boston. We'll see what the Celtics 517 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: do we'll watch tonight's NBA Finals game and we'll talk 518 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: with them again. Any of the best. Man, really appreciate 519 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: you spend some time. 520 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 6: Oh problem man, Thanks for having me. 521 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 522 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 523 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Doug Gotleib Show, Fox Sports Radio. Shortly after the show, 524 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: podcasts will be going up. You misseday today's show, check 525 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: out the podcast. Just search duglabe we get podcasts, follow, 526 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: rate and review the podcast to get just search duglab 527 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: for your podcast. Do you guys in terms of drinking? I, Jay, 528 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: I know you drink. Dan doesn't drink Sam. Do you 529 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: drink yes excessively at times? Good? 530 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: Good? 531 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm teasing. Do you what what is your like? You 532 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: sit down at a bar, what do you always order? 533 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: I usually get a beer maybe, uh, maybe a bump 534 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: in a beer, a little boiler maker, a little shot 535 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: of a little shot a bourbon with a beer, or 536 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: maybe a little tequila shot. 537 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Jay, STU. When you sit down at a bar, 538 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: what do you order? 539 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: So you're just saying that I have some time to 540 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 4: kill and I have uh, I have all the access 541 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: to any drink I want at the bar. The first 542 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: one I would order. Yep, I'm gonna go Greyhound, Greyhound, 543 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: I want vodka, grey Goose, Vodka, grey Goose and grapefruit juice. 544 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: Right, grapefruit juice? 545 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 5: Right? 546 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 547 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Isn't that? Is it great? What's great juice? 548 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? That's the tequila and and grapefruit juice. Plus Quia 549 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: is the lion of juice. Okay, yeah, Poloma. 550 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: I bring it up. Now, do you guys have the 551 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: same drink in the summer as you do the winter? 552 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: And part of it is you're in California, so there's 553 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: not as big a disparity, But you do same drink 554 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: dinner as I mean a winter as you do something. 555 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: When it's cold. I'm gonna go, uh, four fingers of 556 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: four fingers of Scotch neat, Frank Sinacho over here, four 557 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: fingers Scotch neat. 558 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Okay, what about you there, Sammy? 559 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: Uh? 560 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: The only time I have like a quote unquote winter 561 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: at Alcoholic Beverage. Mike Harmon hosts here at FSR. He 562 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: makes this stuff, the Sweetish Glug and it's fantastic. You 563 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: heat it up on the stove for a minute. 564 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: Or two. 565 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: Get it warm, put it in a mug, and it's 566 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 3: like wine and brandy and spices, and it is. 567 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: It is quite good. 568 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: Otherwise, Yeah, it's like it's never really really winter here, 569 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: so it's still sticking with a beer. 570 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I bring it up because I don't know why 571 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: this dropped my head. If you've ever had a Pims cup, 572 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Pims is the alcohol, but a Pims cup is a 573 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: just a great summer drink. And I'd like, I wanted 574 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: to make this summer the summer of the I brought 575 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the Pyms cup to Green Bay, but it's not warm 576 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: until like Monday, it's gonna start getting really warm, and 577 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: I just I struggle with my Pins cup. So I'm 578 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: suggesting Pim's cup to anybody out there sits down and 579 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: and wants to make themselves the summer's drink. 580 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: It is Pims originally a gin. It I feel like, 581 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: is it big in England? 582 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: Pms it is being in England. I don't think it's 583 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a gin. Don't think it's gin. 584 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: We'll research. In the meantime, let's get to a game. 585 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 5: This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show. 586 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: It's a gin based liqueur gin based. Okay, give me 587 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: a pins, I'll take a Pims. 588 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: It's definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely a sophisticated sound to ordering 589 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: a drink. 590 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: Pims. 591 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: All right, what's the game day? 592 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: The game today? On this Friday, Doug is I got 593 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: DIBs four topics. We'll see if we get to all four. 594 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: We start out talking some hockey Canadian hockey teams that 595 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: you would want to win a Stanley Cup. As we 596 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: try to get the Cup, I just want it at 597 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: least out of the sun Belt, but across the border 598 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: would be is great as well. We want Canada to 599 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: win a Cup at least Sam and I do what 600 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: Canadian team would you want to see hoist Lord Stanley's 601 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: Cup hoist. I got DIBs on the Maple Leafs. I 602 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: think I've said this before. It's gonna be very anti 603 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart because would end a drought and misery. But 604 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: I'm going with the make beliefs, the mayple lief. 605 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: I got DIBs on the Vancouver Canucks because yesterday I 606 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: found out what the definition of a Canuck is and 607 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: I'm on board. And it's fun to say so Vancouver Canucks, 608 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: go get yourself a cup. 609 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: It's just a Canadian, right, Yeah. 610 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: It's a kind of like a playful, sort of a 611 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit of a crowd. 612 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: I don't mean, I'd have to go look at the definition. 613 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: A little derogatory, well, a little dogga. 614 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: Two, but also kind of playful. There are other instances 615 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 3: you could compare. Compare that name to. 616 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I got DIBs on the Montreal Canadian. 617 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just gonna take DIBs on cal Gowery Calgary. 618 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: I like Calgary. What was the really little? It was? Uh? 619 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: What was a little? They had a great hockey player 620 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: for a long time, but he was tiny. Huh? 621 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: Who you said THEO Flurry? Which may be right? I 622 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: thought maybe Jerome and Gidlaw Againlaw, I think yeah, I 623 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: think you're right. I'm guessing version is THEO Floria. All right, 624 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: NBA team you'd want to give a title, This is 625 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: all thirty NBA team you'd want to give a title. 626 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: To just give a title, just have them have a title. 627 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: Yes, you are champions. You are the champions. My friend. 628 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: I got DIBs on the Quippers only because I want 629 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: to see what happens to this town. When it happens, 630 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: I want to see how it's covered. I want to 631 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: see if there's any parade, if there's enough fans for 632 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: a parade, because I don't think there would be. 633 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: There would be enough fans, but they wouldn't actually be 634 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: real fans. 635 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: I may regret this, but I got DIBs on the Wizards, 636 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: and I say I may regret it because I think 637 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: that there's five markets of sports fans that just can 638 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: be insufferable, and it's New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, and DC. 639 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: And I think it's those. 640 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: Five Detroit fans can't be insufferable. 641 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: I think they're all right. I mean, I just I 642 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: don't think that they have the reputation as those other 643 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: five markets do. And just enough of the Commanders this 644 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: past year was already starting to get my fill. But 645 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: the East needs a pickup. I wouldn't want to give 646 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 2: it to the Celtics. I'm not gonna be greedy and 647 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: give it to the Bucks. I don't want the Sixers 648 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: to have one. Bulls had enough up with the Wizards. 649 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: I got the Knicks. DIBs on the Knicks. I'd like 650 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: to see a ticker tape parade where ticker tape parades 651 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: used to be a cool thing. 652 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: I got dims on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Oh interesting, all right, 653 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: Just give me a brief explanation. 654 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: Why there's no such thing from Sambago. 655 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: Man, I've just started a franchise starred of a championship. 656 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 3: Just ask our guy, Scott Shapiro. Oh that's what I 657 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: was going for that. You got it. You nailed the 658 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: bet in my head. There it is, kissing up to 659 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: the boss. Minnesota sports Men's sports at least needs a 660 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: title badly, according to Scott, and he's right. 661 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: All right. Do you guys want to do must watch 662 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: player in baseball or famous sports dads that famous sports Okay, 663 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: all right, we'll start that one. Famous sports dads. Go, 664 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: I got DIBs on Ken Griffy. 665 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Well he was at least he was a player. 666 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean cal Rip, good one. Sam. 667 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: Can I have DIBs on avar Ball? 668 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: Sure? 669 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: Why not? 670 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: Do you want Caitlyn Clark's dad? 671 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: I want I want DIBs on uh LeVar Arrington, who's 672 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 3: turning into a great sports dad. His son's going off 673 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 3: to play football at various universities. 674 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: Like Penn State, and that's game time. 675 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show. 676 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk about NBA Finals next. The Doug Got Michell