1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA f Daily with 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: me your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Bunker, Folks. 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: I wrote a piece this week for The Daily Beast, 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: and I want to unpack it with you because as 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: we are learning more about what is transpired in the 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty seven minutes that the President of 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: the United States went missing on January six, twenty twenty one, 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: as we understand more about the entire strategic, thought out 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: plan to overthrow our government from the foot soldiers to 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: the architects. The thing that is troubling me and continues 11 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: to trouble me, is that Democrats aren't doing a fucking 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: thing with the information that is being served up on 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: a silver platter by the Republican Party, who is an 14 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: obvious cult who is an obvious fascist, authoritarian regime that 15 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: sees that our democracy is not something that they want 16 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: to be on board with anymore. They have given numerous examples, 17 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: they have given numerous of their own talking points, and 18 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: yet you hear Democrats say things like We're going to 19 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: focus on kitchen table issues, and the thing that I 20 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: want to say is what fucking difference do kitchen table. 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Issues make when you can't vote, when you don't have 22 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: access to an abortion, when you're so concerned about sending 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: your kids to school because they may be shot up 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: by an AAR fifteen. But everybody wants to talk about 25 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: this bipartisan deal that is on the table, which, by 26 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: the way, the fucking legislation hasn't been written. And do 27 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: you know what doesn't include in this bipartisan, historic three 28 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: decade legislation. Nothing that will absolutely end gun violence in 29 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: this country. Nothing that will end mass shootings in this 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: country because the assault rifles ban is off the table. 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: Raising the age to twenty one in order to buy 32 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: a gun is off the table. So what you see 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: is just a bunch of fucking money for mental services. 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: And that's not the issue. The issue isn't that we 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: don't have enough psychologists and psychiatrists in America. It's the 36 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: fact that we have three hundred and ninety million guns 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: and only three hundred and thirty fucking million people. So 38 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: while everyone wants to pat themselves on the bat that 39 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans are coming together, they're coming together to 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: do nothing more than pageantry, because it's not going to 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: stop people from being gunned down in their grocery store, 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: their school, or their place of worship. So here we are, 43 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: as democrats, are making what seems like a fucking death 44 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: march to the mid term elections. And I keep saying 45 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: to myself, where is the goddamn messen? Because by the way, 46 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I get the top lines on a regular basis, and 47 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: the top lines are bullshit. We are obviously heading towards 48 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: a fucking recession. I can't get tampons, some people can't 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: get baby formula. Gas is at five dollars a fucking gallon, 50 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: and that's in places that are good, not places like California, 51 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: which have always had historically high gas prices. So when 52 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: you have one of the two major political parties that 53 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: have turned into a cult, that offer and have offered 54 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: nothing to the American people, that are so inbed with 55 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: white nationalists, you would think that Democrats would say, well, 56 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: what is your alternative? Me or Hitler? But of course 57 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: that is not where they are. So I wrote about 58 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: it to give some thought, to provide some insight to 59 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Democrats that you know, maybe want to actually try to 60 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: win instead of what they usually do. So the piece 61 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: at the Daily Beast right now is entitled Democrats need 62 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: to tell Americans how dangerous the GOP really is. And 63 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: this is what I write. The January sixth Committee hearings 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: are laying there just how much coordination there was between racist, 65 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: far right extremist groups and Trump's attempt to steal the election. 66 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Last month, a white supremist traveled hours to a black 67 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: neighborhood in Buffalo for the express purpose of killing as 68 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: many black people as possible. Let me pause there, because 69 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: what has happened over the past couple of days, over 70 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: last weekend is that we've seen arrest of white nationalist 71 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: groups that were getting ready to riot at a Pride parade. 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: We have gotten reports of the Proud Boys. According to 73 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, they were gonna disrupt a story time. 74 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: No they weren't. They were initiating a fucking attack language matters. 75 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Five to seven Proud Boys rolled up to a California 76 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: drag story time that people bring their children to because 77 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: drag is about imagination and fabulousness and sparkles and good times, right, 78 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: And they rolled up into the event screaming transphobic and 79 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: homophobic slurs, essentially causing an absolute scene and chaos, scaring 80 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: the shit I'm assuming out of parents and caregivers as 81 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: well as the drag queen that was in the midst 82 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: of performing their work. But everyone in media wants to say, oh, 83 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: it was a disruption. No it wasn't. It's intended an 84 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: intentional fucking harm and violence. So in the introm se 85 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: the Buffalo shooter, which you know was arrested alive, killing 86 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: ten black people, we have the murder of nineteen children 87 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and two of their teachers. And in the midst of 88 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: it all multiple mass shootings and multiple acts of violence 89 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: at the hands of white supremacist groups. Who did I 90 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: just say that they were in bed with Donald Trump, 91 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: trump Ism and the Republican Party. What connections have Democrats 92 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: made to this point. None, because they want to say, oh, 93 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: not all Republicans. If you have subscribed and voted with 94 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump over ninety percent of the time, if you 95 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: did not vote against his impeachment, if you did not 96 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: stand up after the insurrection when your own life and 97 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: ass was on the line, then you are aligned with 98 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: the far fucking right. They may want to do part 99 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: and parcel within their own circles, but Democrats need to 100 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: tell the fucking truth to the American people, which is 101 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: what they refuse to do because they think somehow that 102 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: that's taking the quote unquote high road. It's not. What 103 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: it is is not helping the American people be able 104 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to see very distinctly who the Republican Party is. So 105 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: let me continue. Earlier this month, the Department of Homeland 106 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Security issued a stark warning that the US is in 107 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: a heightened threat environment following several recent attacks that have 108 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: highlighted the dynamic and complex nature of the threat environment. 109 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: Seem like there's a there, there here. Why then, is 110 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: it so hard for Democrats to connect the dots and 111 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: communicate to the American people just what exactly is going 112 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: on here? So let me take my hand at it. 113 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: As I wrote for The Daily Beast, violent extremism, racism, 114 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: and bigotry are a growing threat, and their ideologies are 115 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: entwined with mainstream conservatism. Right now, there, see how easy 116 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: that was, Democrats. Doesn't seem confusing. I'm not talking about 117 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: your kitchen table. I'm talking about the fact that you 118 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: should feel safe in your home, you should feel safe 119 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: in your community, you should feel safe wherever you go. 120 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: But if you are a person of color, if you 121 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: are a person from a marginalized group. If you are 122 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: not white, male, ciss straight, and Christian, and I use 123 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: quotation marks, you win danger, girl, you win fucking danger. 124 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: So for these people out here who want to say, oh, well, 125 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: my gas prices are high because of Democrats, no they 126 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: are not. They're high because we're at war. They're high 127 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: because we have come up with no fucking way to 128 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: access energy in any real way, because we keep tap 129 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: dancing for the Prince in Saudi Arabia kissing the ring 130 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: of Putin in Russia. And so you would think that 131 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: we would have learned something through our scarcity. In fact, 132 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: during the height of COVID, when production was shut down, 133 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: that how entwined America is with the world, and that 134 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: by placing money in green energies, whether it be wind 135 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: or solo or just innovation in general that is about 136 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: sustainable technologies, maybe we wouldn't be in this place. But oh, 137 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: that's right. America and our politicians are in bed with 138 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: the oil companies and the gas companies and all of 139 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: these people. You have Joe Mansion, King Cole, right, do 140 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: you think that he wants to invest in technologies that 141 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: aren't going to add more money to his pocket. No 142 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: he's not. But the reality here, folks, is that it's 143 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: either these jellyfish, spineless people or white supremas. And I'm 144 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: just saying, by virtue of who I look like and 145 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: where I come from and who I love, they ain't 146 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: going to accept me as part of the pact. What 147 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: about you? I go on to say this in the piece. 148 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: It has been crystal clear for quite some time that 149 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: this isn't Ronald Reagan's Republican Party anymore. The new Republican 150 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: regime is more aligned with members like Representatives Elis Stefanik, 151 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: who pushed white supremacs theories, and Marjorie Taylor Green and 152 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: Paul Goser, who don't even pretend to hide their ideology 153 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: when attending white supremacy conferences. Where are these Republican leaders 154 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: taking their direction from? Donald Trump, the man that, on 155 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: January sixth, as a capital was under siege in in 156 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: a plume of smoking chaos, told his rioting followers that 157 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: what he loved them. It doesn't get much clearer than that. 158 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 1: Trump said he loved the people that beat police officers, 159 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: the people that built a gallows to kill his own 160 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: vice president, of whom he later said that well, maybe 161 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: they were right. Head over to the Daily Beast to 162 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: read the entirety of my piece entitled Democrats need to 163 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: tell Americans how dangerous the GOP really is folks. 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Anna, First, 199 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: you know it's so hard, right, we like literally before 200 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: I said, how are you you say, how are you, 201 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: how are you this pride? How are you feeling in 202 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: this black queer body that we have about where we 203 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: are in this country right now, in this good, good 204 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: month of June, this busy queer month of June. Yeah, Well, first, 205 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: thank you for having me on your show. I love 206 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: your show and what you do. Thank Exhausted, angry, frustrated, 207 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: fired up. I made a post recently just because I 208 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: was preparing for my podcast, Queer News, and I was 209 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: just like, you know, as a black person, as a 210 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: queer person, and as a woman right now, all three 211 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: of my identities are under attack, and I'm exhausted. So 212 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: I was, I was preparing to write my script for 213 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the Queer News podcast, and I just couldn't get through it. 214 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was I was two and a half 215 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: hours in. I can't find the worst script to really 216 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: express my frustration and anger. Because on that particular day, um, 217 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: the Buffalo mass shooting had just occurred, right Robe Wade, 218 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: the leak had just happened, and then Brittany Griner's detainment 219 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: had been extended, all at the same on the same day. Yeah, 220 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and I was just like, this is my life, Like 221 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: this is my reality. This is what living at the 222 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: intersections means. This is why you know this pride. I'm 223 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: not all pumped up to go walking into parade, right 224 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm not pumped up for that. I want to know 225 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: where's the march, Where where's the fury, where's the protests happening? 226 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: Because at this point right we've been under attack from 227 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: right wing legislation, legislators across the country, trans rights transfer ye, 228 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: people are actually having to think about picking up and 229 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: moving their families to different states. This is every day 230 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: life right now. And we're supposedly in America and in 231 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: this very free country, and it's not feeling free to 232 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: this very queer and black and woman field body right now. 233 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: And so for me prior right now is exhausting and 234 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: it's furiating. And my hope is that I use my 235 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: platform to express that and to keep people engaged because 236 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: it's very easy also to tune out because you can't 237 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: take it, you know, you don't want to take it 238 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: all in. So my hope is that I'm keeping people 239 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: engaged with our platform and what we are talking about, 240 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: because people do need to be in tune. We can't 241 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: tune out right now like this ain't the time to 242 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: be hiding under a rock. This is the time to 243 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: like tap into that James Baldwin, and tap into that 244 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: rage and do something about it. You Know, it's so 245 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: interesting because so many people that I've been talking to 246 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: are finding themselves rereading Baldwin, rereading Octavia Butler, rereading Tony Morrison, 247 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: rereading Nikki Giovanni, and really trying to tap into in 248 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: their time. We're talking about the nineteen sixties, and we're 249 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: talking about literal I know that Republicans love to play 250 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: right now like cities are burning, that black people are burning, 251 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: ship down everywhere, and that we know that that is 252 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: not the case. But in the nineteen sixties it very 253 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: well was right because as we have as has been said, 254 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: rioting is the sound of those that are unheard, right, 255 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: And so when you just listed out all of those things, 256 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: all of the layers of as I heard a doctor 257 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: say on MSNBC the other day, compacted trauma, that's what 258 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: all of that was. Right. She's talking about Brittany Griner. 259 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about her being used as a political pawn 260 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: and no one making a stink about it, And people 261 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, it's because you know, we got to 262 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: work behind the scenes, And a part of me is 263 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: like or because she's a black gay woman, right, Because 264 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: the reality is is that if that were Tom Brady, 265 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: you don't think that this would be a regular segment 266 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: on anybody's sports center. It would be a regular segment 267 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: on anybody's news, right, whether or not it was said 268 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: to we're working behind the scenes. And so I guess 269 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: my next question for you is, given all of the 270 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: weight and the fact that you were so directly connected 271 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: to the LGBTQ community by virtue of your work and 272 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: your platform, what are you hearing? Right? Like, our folks disengage, 273 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: not because they don't care, but because it's self care. 274 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Are they disengaged or are they outraged but don't know 275 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: where to channel that? And so by virtue, it's just 276 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: social media outrage as opposed to we're in the streets outrage. Absolutely, 277 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: they don't know what to do with it, They don't 278 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: know what, they don't know where to go. So part 279 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: of my work is I try to give people call 280 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: to actions in all of the stories, because there has 281 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: to be a way that we can channel this. If 282 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: it's not in the street, then there's another way. Because 283 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I think that everyone's work doesn't have to be in 284 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 1: the street, right. I think that's the beautiful part about life. Right. 285 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: Everyone's not called to be that activist. Some people are 286 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: called to be advocate. Some people are called to do 287 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: the work at their own homes and their own families. 288 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: So I do try to provide people calls to action 289 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: because I do think that people are engaged when I post, 290 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: and I think I find the most engagement on TikTok TikTok. Right. 291 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: People are aware of what's happening, but they just don't 292 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: know what to do. So right for example, where Britney 293 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: Griner and covering her story. I think she's one hundred 294 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: and fourteen days now wrongfully detained in Russia. The call 295 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: to action right now for me is to tell people 296 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: go sign the petition and then go call your legislature 297 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: legislators and let them know that her wife is trying 298 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: to get in front of President Biden right now, that 299 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: her wife needs is trying to get in front of 300 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: him to urge him to bring her home. Right that 301 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: coach Don Staley has said that she will give up 302 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: her visit right the game call visit to the White House. 303 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: So that Cherrell can have that visit with President Biting 304 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: because that's how important it is to her. There's calls 305 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: to action on everything, and I think for us, it's 306 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: about using our platforms to tell people how they can 307 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: do it, because I think a lot of people just 308 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: feel exhausted. I think people do feel exhausted. COVID has 309 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: tired us all out if nothing else is happening in 310 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: the world, and people don't know what to do. So 311 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: I just try my best to give to give people 312 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: ways in which they can show their support because a 313 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of people don't have money. And I'm somebody from 314 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: the church, right, So, time, talent, treasure, Okay, you got 315 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: one of the three that you could be giving to 316 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: an organization to people that you want to see when so, 317 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: for example, good news, right, Justine Lindsay just became the 318 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: first trans woman cheerleader in the NFL. She's a black 319 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: trans woman. Right, that's amazing, But also right now she's 320 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: getting a lot of hate. When I told that story 321 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: on the podcast, I said, go follow her on Instagram 322 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: and write something really nice in the comments, like take 323 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: a moment and support her and offset some of the 324 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: hate that's happening. That that will go a long way, 325 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: because the trolls are real, and so if you can 326 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: get through that with some positivity, that's the way you 327 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: can support this system right now, because what she's doing 328 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: is amazing. You know, it's so true, because you know, 329 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: we all know, and particularly in the work that we do, 330 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: don't read the comments section, right I never read the 331 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: comment section after I write a piece. I never read 332 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: the comment section because I've said my piece. So if 333 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: you want to go and use the comment section for, 334 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: you know, to to have a monologue, a soliloquy, you know, 335 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: go off, But I'm not going to engage in that way. 336 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: But the reality is is that it takes a toll. 337 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: And so when you you know, and you talk about exhaustion, 338 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: I talk about exhaustion on willk app all the time 339 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: because I say that, you know, if we do not 340 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: seek rest, if we do not seek refuge, if we 341 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: do not find ways to cent her joy in our lives, 342 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: we are going to burn out, which is part and 343 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: parcel of all that is being thrown at us. And so, 344 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: in using your platform to kind of be as an 345 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: act of service, how do you tell folks and also 346 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: for yourself, what do you do to take this heavy 347 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: weight off of you, even if only for a few hours? 348 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: What is that? What does your self care look like? 349 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: Right now? For me? Every morning, it is me and 350 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: my prayer corner, with my journal and my meditations and 351 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: my music and my candles and my pictures from my 352 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: family of me growing up, and it looks like me 353 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: taking time. And sometimes I lose track of time and 354 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm there for like an hour, but it is truly 355 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: that quiet time. And the more that I just refuse 356 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: to give up for absolutely anything or anyone or anything 357 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: happened around me, because my grounding for me is through 358 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: my spiritual practices. And so for me, it's that time 359 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: when we bought our new house, but right before the pandemic, 360 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: I was like, thank you. I told my wife, you 361 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: can have this whole room, but this little corner, this 362 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: corner is my corner. Okay. And anybody know my wife, 363 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: though she is a diva, Okay, there's close, there are 364 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: close on close, okay, But I told her like, this 365 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: is my corner and you cannot do anything in this corner. 366 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: So that corner is my corner. That's that's really how 367 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: I ground myself. And I also love to exercise, right 368 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: those indoor friends. Yeah, my movement, my creativity going, if 369 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: it's a walk with my puppy, if it's something on 370 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: the trail mill, if it's core work, like moving really 371 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: helps my spirit a lot. Yeah, you know, I just 372 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: recently broke my So walking used to be used to 373 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: be my walking meditation frankly of being able. I meditate 374 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: at least twice a day, but walking used to also 375 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: just be my you know, connection to the water, to nature, 376 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: to getting outside. And I say all of that is 377 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: important because, you know, for the past couple of months, 378 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know about you, because my work is 379 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: about sitting behind me, staring at this TV and screaming 380 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: as I am watching our democracy crumble, and then having 381 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: to write about said democracy crumbling. And I think to myself, 382 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have the fire right now 383 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: to fight back. And I say that because we are 384 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: all so exhausted that even the good practices that I 385 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: developed during you know, quarantine have fallen away as the 386 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: world has started to come back together. But the world 387 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: has come back together in this topsy turvy upside down space. 388 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: And so it's how do you envision creating the fire 389 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: that has people get back in a state of rage, 390 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: but not stay there, you know, for their own health 391 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: and well being. Because we know that our community too 392 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: has high risk for everything alcoholism, drugs, anxiety, depression, suicide rates, 393 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: all of these things. You compound that with these anti 394 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: trans bills, with these anti LGBT bills, it just ReBs 395 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: everything back up. And so how do you go about 396 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: creating the fire for the connectivity but literally not having 397 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: people burn. It's the magic key, isn't it the magic key? 398 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: I think Unfortunately, people only get fired up when they 399 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: see something egregious about to occur, right, So I felt 400 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: like people were really fired up when the leak of 401 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: the Roe v. Wade potential decision that's I supposed to 402 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: come down month. We're sitting here, but it's next week, yes, right, 403 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: the inevitable. I felt people fired up around that, right. 404 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: I felt like the world kind of woke up a 405 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: little bit in regards to wanting to disrupt everyday life 406 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: around this decision. I wish it didn't have to be 407 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: like that, right, I wish I wish people cared and 408 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: were fired up on everything, right. I wish people could 409 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: engage in that way around all of these moments, especially 410 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: around all of this anti trans and anti LGBTQ legislation 411 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: that's been going on really for the last like fifteen 412 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: sixteen months, Right, I wish that was the case, but 413 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: unfortunately people only care when it affects them, and so 414 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: when we talk about trans folks, you know, and the 415 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: percentage in which they represent not enough. I don't feel 416 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: like America on a whole feels connected to that issue 417 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: right in the same ways. Right. So I'm sitting over 418 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: here fired up because it's part of my identity, but 419 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: other folks aren't fired up who don't identify right, and 420 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: we've got transphobic people within our own community. Yeah, that's 421 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: just a whole other thing, right. So I feel like 422 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: people only get turned up when a decision like a 423 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: roe V wave comes out, and oftentimes that's too late, 424 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's too late, right, Yeah, it's 425 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: too late. So I don't know how we change that 426 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: tide because people can only take so much. Right to 427 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: your point, it's my job. It's my work that I've chosen. 428 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been called to do, is to 429 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: tell everybody what's going on, and to use my voice 430 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: as a voice of passion. When I speak to get 431 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: people fired up and to call them to into some 432 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: type of action for the collective whole, I feel like 433 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: it has to, unfortunately be something so monumental or life 434 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: change or something they thought was unthinkable to get people 435 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: back in the streets and on one accord on one issue, 436 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: which I think is crazy because all of our pressures 437 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: are connected and there is no hierarchy of this, right, 438 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: So it's just it's frustrating. But I feel like that's 439 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: the that's the only thing I could see actually that 440 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: to me, that's the thing is that, you know, I 441 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: oftentimes reflect on with my listeners about Martin Diamoller's poem, right, 442 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: first they came for. First, they came for the socialist 443 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: and I wasn't a socialist, so I didn't do anything. 444 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: Then they came for and then they came for and 445 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. And I say that 446 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: for America, the trans community is that first community. Why 447 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: because of all of the things that you said, Because 448 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: it is still a community that even within the entirety 449 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: of LGBTQ, there is I have been a part of 450 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: LGBTQ movement for a long time and I can tell 451 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: you about the things that have been said by people 452 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: who identify as queer, and so you go for the 453 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: low hanging fruit and the radical right. They know that, right, 454 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: they know to go for the low hanging fruit. And 455 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: so it's and when we look at all of these bills, 456 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: all of these bills are anti trans bills, right, And 457 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: so I guess, how do you find how do you 458 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: think that we activate our sense of empathy when things 459 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: are not directly about us, but they are about the 460 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: capital us. So I think it's about storytelling, right. So 461 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: I think it's about the stories. And that goes back 462 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: to the platform, goes back to why I think the 463 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: que is important in regards to creating a space for 464 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: BIPOC and qt POC podcasters to be seen and discovered, 465 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: because stories allow us to see the humanity in people 466 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: and see people. A lot of people don't know a 467 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: trans person, right, and so the issue just seems like 468 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't affect them, doesn't touch them, It doesn't it 469 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: hasn't impacted them. And like this emotional that has evoked 470 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: an emotional response to want to stand up or say 471 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: something or feel like this is wrong. But when you 472 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: hear someone's story and it sounds like something you've lived before, 473 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: it sounds like somewhere you've been before. And you can 474 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: see the humanity in someone, When you can see them 475 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: as a human being and not an issue, I think 476 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: that's when change can begin to happen. But I know 477 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: that real change only happens in community and in relationship, 478 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: Like you got to get down deep into these conversations 479 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: with people. But I think it can begin with stories 480 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: and storytelling and listening to people's humanity and seeing people 481 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: as people and not as these polarized, exaggerated political pawns 482 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: that the right wing is making them out to me 483 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: and to your point, they are going after the most 484 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 1: vulnerable and the most misunderstood. Yea, because it's easy to 485 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: shape the narrative of that right. Yes, So I think 486 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: it's about stories. I think it's about humanity. I think 487 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: it's about people wanting to listen and and here, and 488 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: not just waiting to chime in on their own response, 489 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: but really actively listening to these stories. I believe that 490 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: storytelling is the end and the be all right, it's 491 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: the end all be all for me, and it's one 492 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: of the things that Republicans are attacking right around their 493 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: whole critical race theory. It is around gaslighting, continuing to 494 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: gaslight the public about white American exceptionalism, devoid of any 495 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: BIPOC people, devoid of any other alternative voices outside of white, sis, 496 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: hetero Christian and I use quotations men. Last question for you, 497 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: Anna is you know, if people want to do something 498 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: in this moment, I want to go back to the beginning. 499 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: People want to do something, what advice would you give them? 500 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: If people want to do something, I would say to them, 501 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: what is it that you care about the most? Right now? 502 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: What is it that really moves you and whatever that is, 503 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: tap into that community and support with your time, talent, 504 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: and your treasure. For me, I care about black and 505 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: brown and people of color LGBTQ folks, and so I 506 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: tap into my communities in every chance that I get, 507 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and I tell and I use my platform to tell 508 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: their story. Right. If you care about trans folks, then 509 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: you need to be dropping money on translate organizations, right, 510 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: you need to be dropping money on organizations that are 511 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: helping to fight this legislation that's happening across the country. 512 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: You know all of the qualities of the world, right, 513 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: that are fighting in the court systems. You need to 514 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: support them. You need to support translate organizations that are 515 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: actually helping people, right, those who are homeless and have 516 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: housing instability. All Right, Some people like to affect change 517 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: on a massive level. Like some people's work is to 518 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: talk to millions, some people's work is to talk one 519 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: on one and affect people one by one by one. Right, 520 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: So you find something that really you just can't stop 521 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: thinking about, and you tap yourself in, because if we 522 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: all do that with all of our issues, then we 523 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: can begin to make some change. And you your life, 524 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, goodness, gracious, you give what you receive, you received, 525 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: give like you put into it right, and you're gonna 526 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: get it back tenfold. And I think we have abilities 527 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: to bless people in ways that I don't think we 528 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: really tap into. So tap into what you're passionate about 529 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: and use your time, talent and treasure and affect some 530 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: change in some folks lives because it matters, all of 531 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: it matters, all of it. Well, Anna, I can't thank 532 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: you enough for your work, um, for elevating our stories, 533 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: for centering our community with the cube and the platform 534 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: that you have, and I you know this pride. 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