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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Wednesday, August twenty first, And you guys know

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Speaker 2: college football begins this weekend. So in the each of

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Speaker 2: the last two years. Two years ago, I asked my

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Speaker 2: buddy Songe from my basketball team, Hey, I know you

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Speaker 2: do a lot of college football. Anybody I should get

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Speaker 2: on the pod? Son goes, Oh, you gotta get Brad Powers.

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Speaker 2: Guy is money. And I knew Brad Powers obviously who

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Speaker 2: I knew who he was. And then I reached out

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Speaker 2: got him on the pod and he just crushed it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so good. So we had him on

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Speaker 2: last year and now we're bringing him back again. This

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Speaker 2: is a guy who's I mean, you know, I like

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Speaker 2: to think I get down a little bit. This guy's

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Speaker 2: a professional better Okay, he is what he does, he said.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking through my notes here from the interview. I

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Speaker 2: think he said he had as almost a dozen guys

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Speaker 2: money on guys to win the Heisman. He said he

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Speaker 2: has five bets on who the group of five team

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Speaker 2: will be to make the playoff, and his logic is

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Speaker 2: reasoning and sound It's not like he's just flushing money

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Speaker 2: and these are dumb bets. It's really smart stuff. I

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Speaker 2: think you guys are gonna love this. It's great. But

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Speaker 2: before we get the Brad real quick, I will obviously

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Speaker 2: yesterday we did a lot on the two of Brian

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Speaker 2: Flores stuff. Well, Brian Flores went to the podium on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday was I don't want to say emotional, but he

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Speaker 2: got you know, he was a little shaken at the

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Speaker 2: podium talking about how he's evolved as a person and he's,

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to do better and part of coaching

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Speaker 2: is correcting, and you know, he's got a high standard,

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Speaker 2: but he wants to correct some of the things he's

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Speaker 2: done communication wise, and it was it was one of

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Speaker 2: those really pretty cool moments where you're like, hey man, listen,

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Speaker 2: we've all been there, we've all screwed up, we've all

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Speaker 2: Flores hit a pretty good tone and everything when he said, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm human. So that hit me in a way that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't positive for me. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I've got to use that and say, hey, how can

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Speaker 2: that's really where I am from that standpoint. Do I

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Speaker 2: feel like that's me? No? But how can I grow

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Speaker 2: from that situation and create a world where that's not

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Speaker 2: the case That anyone says that about Brian Flores? That's

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Speaker 2: really really smart. Now, it's one thing to say it anyway,

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Speaker 2: Me talk is cheap? Can your actions back it up?

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Speaker 2: And we'll find out from Flores. I don't really think

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Speaker 2: he's got a choice if he wants to, you know,

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Speaker 2: get back to being a head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it just all went really really south

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Speaker 2: for him quickly in Miami with Tua. And here's the kicker.

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Speaker 2: This kind of thing happens a ton with former Belichick coaches.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, throw dirt on Belichick's

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Speaker 2: coaching grave. He might come back next year, and maybe

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Speaker 2: he'll come back a different coach. Remember a lot of

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Speaker 2: guys get run off. Andy Reid got run off at Philly.

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Speaker 2: That was ugly. He rebounded great. Mike McCarthy got run

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Speaker 2: off in Green Bay member fighting with Aaron Rodgers. He

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Speaker 2: bounces back strong in Dallas. Now, he doesn't want a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but twelve wins each to the last three years,

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Speaker 2: that's not a scotfat so shout out to Flores for

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Speaker 2: owning it. And that's a big part of life. Guys. Listen,

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Speaker 2: anybody who says they've never screwed up or really stepped

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Speaker 2: in it nobody, and you've never apologized. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear it. You're not somebody I really believe. You know. Hell,

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Speaker 2: I screw up weekly. I'm ready to admit that openly.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports dance wants, but for.

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Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't, he knows the guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into

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Speaker 2: straight fire.

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Speaker 1: You know him.

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Speaker 2: He comes on every August to talk college football gambling,

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Speaker 2: and I fondly remember last year he came on like

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Speaker 2: a week before the season. I was like, okay, so

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Speaker 2: week one coming up? Anything you fired on? He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got eighty one bets in the hopper, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, hell, that's incredible. Brad Powers the legend. Brad,

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Speaker 2: how are you? Man?

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me. Man, I've been doing this

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Speaker 3: a couple of years. Time flies. But looking forward to

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Speaker 3: week zero, week one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you got the subscription service right still

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Speaker 2: and still in Vegas? How is life in Vegas?

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Speaker 3: By the way, just curious, no surprise. It's hot, hot

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Speaker 3: But yeah, still here in Vegas. Still got service and stuff,

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Speaker 3: Still betting, you know, trying to have I like having

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Speaker 3: multiple revenue systems coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, revenue streams, got to keep them flowing. So

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Speaker 2: are you still occasionally like driving to the border so

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Speaker 2: you can fire in Arizona, or what's the other state

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Speaker 2: the borders that has not Utah? Obviously? Is there another one?

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Speaker 3: No, that's it. You got Arizona, calful, Utah and got it.

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Speaker 2: How often are you doing that? Once a week, once a.

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Speaker 3: Month, not as often. I got guys that I trust

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Speaker 3: that I'm you know, more stinting. There's what thirty eight

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Speaker 3: we don't have. That's what people don't understand, Jason. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're supposed to be the sports betting capital of the world.

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Speaker 3: We don't have Handle, we don't have DraftKings, we don't

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Speaker 2: Do you think they'll crash the party eventually or I

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Speaker 3: It's pretty yeah, I don't think they even though DraftKings

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Speaker 2: All right. You said you're from Ohio. The first bet

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Speaker 2: I made was on Ohio State to win the National Championship.

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Speaker 2: This year, Georgia's the current favorite. Ohio State's looking good.

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Speaker 2: They just named the transfer from k State the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I saw there only an underdog at Oregon. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this is probably the year for the Buckeyes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you better really early, you probably

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Speaker 3: divisions in the Big Ten, you know. On one hand, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure interesting who was hired first? Did they

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Speaker 2: they add Chip Kelly as the offensive coordinator first, because

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious if Kelly loves this move or maybe

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Speaker 3: It was Will Howard first and then Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Huh, Well, I don't think I mean Kelly wanted out

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Speaker 2: curious how you think that'll mesh. I didn't watch enough

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Speaker 2: what Chip Kelly will want him to. I'm assuming you

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be a pretty healthy marriage.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it'll be fine. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: a little bit mobile. He's not a great thrower. I

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Speaker 3: I think he's lost his fastball. But when I put

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Speaker 3: in college football, absolutely so, it'll be fine well and

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Speaker 3: also helps well Howard. He's got still a very dynamic

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Speaker 3: the best one two punch and running back in the country.

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Speaker 3: And Judkins and Traveon Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you still have them too. I'm assuming Georgia's

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Speaker 2: number one. It's weird. I all this hype about Carson Beck.

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Speaker 2: So we got the top two out of the way, Brad.

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Speaker 2: Mark interesting. Now, there's no there's nothing analogous to the

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Speaker 2: Huh. That's interesting shake out. Now, we barely talked to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Well, I mean difference is you hired

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Speaker 2: Where are you on mill Road? The quarterback? Because I

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be Michael Pennix throwing the

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Speaker 2: Not to go to a side. But you said the Heisman.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's two years ago, maybe it's two.

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Speaker 3: I've done at Florida State.

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Speaker 2: Dude. I had to block so many of these FSU

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Speaker 3: twenty to one, twenty five to one, thirty to one

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Speaker 3: on him, I wouldn't mind being in that spot.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. So it's funny you bring up Riley Leonard. I

431
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,399
Speaker 2: was talking to somebody from Notre Dame and it sounds

432
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,919
Speaker 2: like he was injured last year with Duke and they

433
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 2: were like, oh, you're fine, play through it, and he

434
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 2: was not healthy and he did not perform well. So

435
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Speaker 2: then he goes to Notre Dame. The first thing they

436
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: do like, yeah, you need surgery, and it was like,

437
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 2: how could Duke be I guess Duke was desperate to

438
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: win games. Riley Leonard was their best chance. So now

439
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 2: he goes to Notre Dame. I you think he's gonna

440
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: be good, that good out of the gate coming off surgery.

441
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, two surgeries. He had a surgery right away after

442
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 3: the season, and then he had another cleanup in March.

443
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 3: But uh, he's running around a lot. I guess he's

444
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,239
Speaker 3: been full go since the start of summer. So not

445
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 3: to start a camp August. I'm talking in June, and

446
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 3: I mean I follow Notre Name quite a bit, so

447
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 3: he's been running around. He looks totally healthy.

448
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, you do the amazing thing where

449
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: you're watching like spring games and practices. Yea, is it

450
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Speaker 2: on YouTube or where are you watching those games? Are

451
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Speaker 2: they streaming Fox?

452
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Speaker 3: Actually? Fox National televised the buck guys in Mischione.

453
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Speaker 2: Well that's the guy coming. I'm talking the lesser games.

454
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Speaker 2: I mean, are you doing like Florida Atlantic practices and

455
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Speaker 2: stuff like that.

456
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I try if they're available. I'll tell you

457
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Speaker 3: a couple that I got this year. Somebody was on

458
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Speaker 3: the sidelines that Utip filmed the whole spring game. So

459
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Speaker 3: I watched that, and then somebody pieced together Boise State

460
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Speaker 3: spring game from from the stands, so I try to

461
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Speaker 3: get that. But the beauty is these conference networks. I mean,

462
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Speaker 3: I'm not watching a lot of Google five spring games,

463
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: but SEC nowwork, g ACC now, we're big ten network.

464
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean they all televised every single spring game.

465
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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. I got to give you a shout

466
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Speaker 2: out for that. You know who we haven't mentioned is

467
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: when you I know a lot of people first impression,

468
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: what cocky guy with a mullet and mouthy and it

469
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 2: seems like he's cleaned all that stuff up. He has

470
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Speaker 2: the third best odds to win the Heisman. Where are

471
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Speaker 2: you on yours?

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a reason why I haven't really brought him up.

473
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: I would say among the contenders this year, Texas certainly

474
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Speaker 3: is a contender. I think they're my biggest fade. I

475
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: just I bet under the win total. I haven't bet

476
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Speaker 3: yours to win the Heisman. I bet against Texas in

477
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 3: several we call him game of the Year markets where

478
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: you can bet Texas, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas, A and M

479
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: prior to the season. So I just don't see it

480
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 3: this year. There's a couple of things. It's not necessarily yours.

481
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of them. That has nothing

482
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 3: to do with off the field. It's just on the field.

483
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Speaker 3: When they needed him to win the Oklahoma game last year,

484
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: he wasn't on. I mean, Washington was a little hit

485
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Speaker 3: or miss, especially early in that game. And then specific

486
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Speaker 3: to Texas, he loses his top four receivers. I know

487
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: they brought in a bunch of guys from the portal,

488
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: but they're not as good at receiver this year as

489
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Speaker 3: they where a year ago. And the big reason why

490
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Speaker 3: I don't like Texas is what made them different last

491
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Speaker 3: year from the previous fifteen years of Texas football was

492
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: those two stud defensive tackles that both are off in

493
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Speaker 3: the NFL drafts so and then plus a tougher schedule

494
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Speaker 3: on the SEC. I mean, the reality is Kentucky and

495
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: Florida are better than Texas, Tech and TCU and Texas

496
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Speaker 3: last year, Jason, I mean, I think people forget all

497
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: they made the playoffs, it's all great. I mean they

498
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: could have lost the Kansas State game, went to multiple overtimes,

499
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: could have lost to TCU. I mean, it's not like

500
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Speaker 3: they were dominant in a lot of their games.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, not great new. I got some Texas

502
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: buddies who were fired up. Who their biggest game is?

503
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Speaker 2: Don't they host? Is it? They host Alabama?

504
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Speaker 3: This year?

505
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Speaker 2: They host Georgia, Georgia. I'm sorry, yeah, they host Georgia.

506
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Speaker 2: That Do you ever go to games by the way,

507
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Speaker 2: I'm just curious.

508
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Speaker 3: No, it's tough. Maybe a week night game here to

509
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: go watch UNLV, but I can't mississise.

510
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Speaker 2: You're firing on live betting.

511
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Speaker 3: And stuff, and a lot of times my focus is

512
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Speaker 3: already on the upcoming week because there's a book in

513
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: Vegas Circa that opens up the next week. I gotta

514
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 3: know stuff immediately on Sunday morning, like who got hurt

515
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: in what game? So there's value watching a bunch of games.

516
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517
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Speaker 2: You mentioned who got hurt? I saw a report that

521
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: injury reports are gonna be a real thing in college

522
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: football this season. Obviously that's huge for gamblers. Have you

523
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Speaker 2: what do you what do you make of this.

524
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'm kind of I have number one.

525
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: I like the standardization of something. You know, I get something.

526
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Speaker 3: But you know, coaches are gonna be like Belichick. Everybody's questionable,

527
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: some guys probable. So you're gonna have to get a

528
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Speaker 3: It's gonna take a while to get a feel for it.

529
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Speaker 3: I kind of against it to believe it or not,

530
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Speaker 3: because I I do the homework. I do legwork. Sometimes

531
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Speaker 3: you can find there's multiple times a year where you

532
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Speaker 3: just by doing the legwork, you might have an inclination

533
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Speaker 3: that starting quarterback ain't gonna play. He's not on any

534
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Speaker 3: injury report, nothing's reporting, and boom bang you guess right,

535
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: and you're in front of a four, five, six point

536
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Speaker 3: line move.

537
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Speaker 2: Hmm. Yeah, Well, if.

538
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: The injury reports are out, I mean, that's just gonna

539
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 3: become less frequent.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great point. Shaduor Sanders may be the

542
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: biggest dame in college football this season. I don't think

543
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: we talked about him much last year, but they kind

544
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: of surprised people early and then you know, normalized and

545
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: we're pretty crappy. Dion's been extremely mouthy in recent weeks.

546
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: Shaduur was very noisy in the offseason, going after former

547
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: players on social media, like, I don't know what you're doing.

548
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Speaker 2: Do you think Colorado's going to be any good this year?

549
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: Well, on one hand, coach Prime has done a great job.

550
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: I mean you just look at Colorad's power ratings, up

551
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: more than two touchdowns from what he inherited. So but

552
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: it's always comparative relative to expectations. And obviously a lot

553
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: of people are thinking this is a Big twelve contending team.

554
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I also think it's a combustible

555
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: type of situation where boy, I mean, I don't think

556
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: Doors should be at the top of the Heisman board,

557
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: but I do think he's one of the most valuable

558
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 3: players in college football. If he gets banged up, we're

559
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 3: talking a team power rating going down a touchdown. I mean,

560
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: you look at them them at the end of last year.

561
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: I mean they're losing by forty to Washington State because

562
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: he's banged up. So you look at the schedule, I'll

563
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: say this, No, there's no Oregon on this schedule where

564
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: they're just completely outclassed. But there's no not a single

565
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: slam dunk win on the schedule for Colorado this year,

566
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Speaker 3: not even North Dakota State and the opener, I mean

567
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: it's not like that's a layup in that game, they're

568
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Speaker 3: single did your favorite? And I guess what coach The

569
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: worst thing Coach Prime is done for Colorado is every

570
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: team is like maxed out. You know the old spinal tap,

571
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: you know the speakers go to eleven. So Colorado's not

572
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: that over. They're not Alabama, they're not Ohio State, and

573
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: yet everybody's maxed out intensity wise to play him each

574
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: week because of their mouthy you know, in the media.

575
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: So I bet under five and a half. That's why

576
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 3: I probably you want the best bet season wintal right now,

577
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: Colorado under five and a half. I don't see a

578
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: Bowl game real quick?

579
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Speaker 2: Have you off the top of your head, do you

580
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: know if any win total lines have moved more than others? Like,

581
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: is there one team that's swung by a full win

582
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: a win and a half? I don't know any of

583
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: that happening or not really.

584
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Speaker 3: Biggest one I've seen UCLA with six and a half

585
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: down to like four and a half in spots. I

586
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: mean obviously, I mean not a fan of Sean Foster,

587
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: just inexperienced. I think the biggest thing is if there's

588
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: one program is really going to get hurt by moving

589
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: from the Pac twelve to the Big Ten. I mean

590
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: it's UCLA, I know you look, I mean non conference,

591
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: you're playing LSU plus a Big ten schedule. They're flying

592
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: to a Hawaii week one, so I mean they just

593
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 3: get their travel schedule is ridiculous.

594
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably a smart bet. I'm gonna mention the

595
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: kid at Nebraska, Dylan Rayola, Rayola, however you say it.

596
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: He's basically got the Patrick Mahomes starter kit, where it's

597
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: like the same shades, has the same haircut, tries to

598
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: do all this stuff. He does kind of look like

599
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: Mahomes a little bit. The hype train is a little

600
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: out of control. But I see plus nine thousand to

601
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: win the Heisman? Is that worth pizza money? Or would

602
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: you rather just light it on fire? No?

603
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: I'd rather well, I mean by pizza with it, I

604
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: mean get some food consumption, some calories. But no, I

605
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: wentn't bet it, although I'll say, I mean they're gonna

606
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: get improved quarterback play. But the market's all over this.

607
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: I mean Nebraska's win total seven and a half. I

608
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: mean they're gonna play I mean, they haven't had a

609
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: winning season in seven years, haven't been a bowl game

610
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 3: in seven years. And to go over this total eight

611
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: and four the two freshman quarterback, I think that's asking

612
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: a lot. They're gonna be in a bowl game for

613
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: the first time forever. But I would tend to want

614
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: to bet under seven and a half wins, which means

615
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: no Riola Heisman ticket in possible.

616
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yet not happening. You know, I don't know if

617
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: you've seen that to make the playoffs wagers, there's some

618
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: interesting I don't know that they're long shots. I saw

619
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: USC is plus four hundred No. I don't know what

620
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: you make of this kid Moss at quarterback. But is

621
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: the I mean there minus six hundred no USC to

622
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: make the playoffs?

623
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Are there is?

624
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Maybe USC you don't like, But is there any team

625
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: out there where you're like, listen, long shot, but the

626
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: schedule lines up, love the quarterback? That kind of deal.

627
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna actually going to go to the group

628
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: of five. That's how I treated it as a separate market.

629
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: You know, one team out of the group of five

630
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: is getting in as an automatic bid. So I took

631
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: and bet, and obviously you work your portfolio and you

632
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: bet different amounts for each team depending on the odds.

633
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: But I bet five out of the group of five

634
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs pretty decent odds, I mean greater

635
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: than USC at four to one. So the teams I

636
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: bet were Memphis, Boise State, AFT State, Texas State, and Liberty.

637
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: Where the five teams the longest shot was Texas State

638
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 3: at sixteen to one to make the playoff.

639
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: Like the schedule, so you imagine Texas State in the

640
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: freaking college football playoff.

641
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: There was they got an I know you like you

642
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: know names and stuff. GJ. Kinney is the name to know.

643
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: He's the head coach me five years to be like that.

644
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Speaker 3: Brad power is kid, knew what he was talking about.

645
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Oh he's getting any when he's coaching an SEC school.

646
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, I'm not familiar with his work, but uh

647
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: so five do you think there's better value in one

648
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: of those group five? Because you know, first, that's a

649
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: that's a good theory. I like that.

650
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the way I treated it all, you know,

651
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean, any one of those fight teams goes in,

652
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: I make a profit. So I mean, I I'm I'm

653
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: not a big you know, I'm a big bet a

654
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: lot to win a little instead of bet a little

655
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: to win a lot, and most pros are.

656
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the summer, smart bro.

657
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: I didn't. Here's the thing with that market that that's

658
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: really intriguing to me this year is how do you

659
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: because I expect Georgia to lose a game somewhere. I

660
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: mean they play at Ole, Miss, at Texas, at Alabama,

661
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: they'll lose one of them. Ohio State, I think they'll

662
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: lose at Oregon. If they keep these markets up on

663
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: a weekly basis all year, I mean, I want to

664
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: bet after a team like Georgia to make the playoffs,

665
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: after a loss at Ohio State, after a loss to

666
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: make the playoffs or even win the championship. And again

667
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: with with I expect some teams to rest some players. Again,

668
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if I expect maybe a few more upsets.

669
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: So that's where I want to really get involved on

670
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: that market.

671
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: I like that to make the college football playoff interesting.

672
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: Missouri sitting at plus one seventy five, I've done zero

673
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: homework on Missouri. Please, is there anything there? Like? Do

674
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: we care about the Tigers again.

675
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Honestly, that would be one that

676
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: I would lean towards the yes, just because of schedule.

677
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: They have by far the easiest schedule in the SEC

678
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: this year. They're going to easily be favored in ten

679
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: of their twelve games. They lose their stud running back straighter,

680
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: but they did a good job in the portal quarterbacks back,

681
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: he's pretty solid player, a little bit mobile. Defense, loses

682
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: quite a bit in their defense corner. But again, go

683
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: look at their schedule. I mean, it's a cakewalk for

684
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: an SEC schedule, believe it or not. I mean they're

685
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: going to start off the gates a three touchdown plus

686
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: favor in their first four games.

687
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: Geez, that's a good way to start the season. All right,

688
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: let's go. We could wrap up with you know, Dabo

689
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: Sweeney has been like too cool for the portal and

690
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: you've seen tech Clemson regress a little bit. Now, obviously

691
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna regress when they lose to Sean Watson and

692
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: Drevior Lawrence. But I don't know where are you on

693
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: what's happening with Dabo and Clemson And you're really on

694
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 2: the ground with this stuff, is there? Chatter that like,

695
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: if he doesn't start to turn things around and wake

696
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: up to like, what the hell's happening in college football,

697
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: they could put them on the hot seat.

698
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Oh they can't a guy who's multiple championships at a

699
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: school that hasn't won championships. No, I mean, but let's

700
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: just say. I mean you said they haven't regressed much.

701
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: I think they have. They have been. They basically his

702
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: view on the transfer portal has taken them completely out

703
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: of the national type.

704
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

705
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 3: Picture. If you don't believe me, look no further than

706
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: that game one against Georgia. They're two touchdown underdog. It's

707
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: the largest underdog role for Clemson in any game in

708
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: over a decade. So I just he doesn't have to

709
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 3: fully embrace the portal. I'm not you know, if you're

710
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: a Clemson fan, you're probably not asking Dad but to

711
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: go out and get fifteen twenty guys each year. I mean,

712
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: because he's worried about the culture. But what you should

713
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: be doing is what everybody else is doing, even Georgia

714
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: and Ohio State. If you have four or five holes

715
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: at positions, go out and get four of the five

716
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: best players in the country that you can to fill

717
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: in some gaffes from guys that left the left early

718
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: are transferred out unexpectedly. I just can't believe he's like

719
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: playing with one arm tied behind his back. So I

720
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: still think they're among the best in the ACC. But

721
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: there's a difference between being a conference contender and the

722
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: ability now to win three four playoff games. He didn't.

723
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: They don't have the depth.

724
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: I haven't read or spoken to anyone credible on this,

725
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: But is there a legitimate reason why he's not doing

726
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: this at all?

727
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: I have not heard a legitimate other than he's worried

728
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: about team.

729
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Culture, just bringing in like a hired gun. You know.

730
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why he's worried about that. We'll

731
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: go out there and do your background work on good kids.

732
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: I mean we mentioned Riley Leonard's a good kid. I mean,

733
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: there's good kids out there and you can bring in

734
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: that are looking to maybe step up to a Clemson

735
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: that are at like other Power four schools.

736
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: He does seem like one of those guys where he

737
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: doesn't want the kids to get like a ton of Nielm.

738
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: He just strikes me as one of these, like hey,

739
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: coaches get paid, players play settle down, would you agree

740
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: with that.

741
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does seem that type because he was very

742
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: anti players getting paid until they passed the legislation. I'm

743
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: all for paying the players, yeah, and for player retention. Again.

744
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: I would not be like a guy like Blaye Kiff

745
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: and wanting to get fifteen twenty and got mercenary guys

746
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: every year. But I would if I was a coach,

747
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: get four or five guys. What is Kirby doing. That's

748
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: what he's doing. Even Ohio State, everyone's talking to the portal now.

749
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: The reality is they went and got four or five

750
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: of the best players they could in the portal. That's it.

751
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: Not like they're bringing in fifteen guys.

752
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: And if you're if you're a football player, you would

753
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: rather wouldn't you rather go to Clemson than the Big Ten?

754
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: Clemson's path to the playoff is easier than the Big Ten.

755
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: It is beautiful area of the country too.

756
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: I've the facility.

757
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I just they got money there.

758
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 3: I mean, just play a retention, go out, get four

759
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: or five guys, and you're you're right there.

760
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: Like Brad Powers, college football guru expert. Where else do

761
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: you want to plug anything else? I don't know, man,

762
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: you're on fire.

763
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I had to bring it. That's the

764
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: name of the podcast. So no, uh, you know, just

765
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: follow me on x Twitter whatever your kids are calling it.

766
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: Brat power seven.

767
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: By the way, are you betting on the election at all?

768
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Or no? I have no way?

769
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you have to. I mean, honestly, they should

770
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: legalize it. I mean you can't bet. You got to

771
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: bet it offshore and far away places. But that's the

772
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: one market if they want to bring in tax dollars

773
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: and are legit. I mean, that's a multi billion dollar

774
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: market that's not legal here in the US. But I

775
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 3: took a little I didn't think Biden was gonna run,

776
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: believe it or not, not to get political, but I

777
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: was told around Super Bowl, when the big wigs were

778
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: in keeping mind super Bowls here in Vegas, I was

779
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 3: told by some people on the inside that they didn't

780
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 3: expect him to make it to November. So I took

781
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: some long shots that aren't gonna work out. I didn't

782
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: know the rule was on truns, so I didn't bet Kamal.

783
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: If i'd have known that rule, I would have bet her.

784
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: But I bet Newsom of Michelle Obama long shots like

785
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 3: thirty to one because I didn't think Biden was gonna

786
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: get there, but I loser.

787
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: I guess interesting, So wait, I am curious, and you

788
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: don't have to give us a number, but can you

789
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: get down big numbers offshore on this.

790
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: Or are the five figures easy?

791
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: Really?

792
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 3: One book easy?

793
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: So why are they doing much.

794
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: Volume to this that? I mean? And we're not even

795
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: getting to you can bet it emaun on election day?

796
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: The wild swings.

797
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Holy, So I wonder why they're not doing it here.

798
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: I guess just the potential for malfeasance or some same.

799
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: And that's an old school way of thinking. I mean,

800
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: let the market. I mean, there's gonna be so much

801
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: money that it's just it's not gonna matter. I know

802
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: the bookmakers are afraid of book the number, take the

803
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: bet in, adjust the lines, and then do which I mean,

804
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: there's a lot of money to be had on the

805
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: election because obviously people aren't taking always clearly. Uh yeah,

806
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: they're ye passionate. They'll be wild swings. You know, people

807
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: will be doubling down, doubling down. Uh so I wish.

808
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: People after that debate, everybody was like, oh Trump is

809
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: going to take the and then all of a sudden,

810
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: the gambling gods swing to his favor, Biden so old.

811
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Then they have the RNC, Biden steps out, Harris in

812
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: and now you look at it and it's like, oh,

813
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: Harris has all the swing states on her side. And

814
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't think I'm going

815
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: to get involved in this market, but I at this point,

816
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: would you let did you wager anything on either side?

817
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: Or no?

818
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow, good question. Uh well, I'll tell you if

819
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: you follow it closely. I mean there's wild swings, you

820
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: can get plus money on both candidates. I would think

821
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: Kamala gets a bump after the DNC, Yeah, a little bit,

822
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: but we've already started to see it swing back to

823
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Trump a little bit. Kamala got out to like a

824
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: MIAs one thirty one forty favorite. Now it's coming down

825
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. I'd wait a week to see how

826
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: this goes. The next few days, I usually get a bump.

827
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: I would expect the Trump money to come back in,

828
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: not that he This isn't a prediction of who's gonna win.

829
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: I just yeah, where the odds are going to go.

830
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: But I would expect Trump money to come in after

831
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: you know, in a couple.

832
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: Of weeks, it does feel like if you could spend

833
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: all your time and energy honing in on like the

834
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: six or seven swing states, that maybe you could find

835
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: an edge. But even the data on those seven states

836
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: is wild. Like one week, it's like all Pennsylvania's going

837
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: eras in the next week, no, well, but it's even I

838
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: don't know what to make of that.

839
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: This will blow you. You can bet Senate races everything,

840
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: I mean, hundreds of different props out there. So I

841
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: literally if you just wanted to bet election stuff and

842
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: you want to do it full time, and you and

843
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: you feel like you could do it and have the

844
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: bankroll you could do.

845
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, that's that's a no thing. So I'll stick

846
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: to football and and and trying to cash in the contest.

847
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: Brad Powers great stuff is always thanks a lot, man, Hey,

848
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: thanks for having me.