1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm for I've heard 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: so many players say, well, I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Edith Stak is that woo woo? 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Be Halloween. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, welcome back to the show, my friend. Neither 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: one of us are in costume today. I guess we 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: are coming costumed as college football prognostication experts on making. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's what we are. That's what we are. Yeah, 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: how are you? I'm great, Ty, I'm doing really well. 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm very excited for this weekend. We're going to be 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: an ann arbor. I'm very excited for an extended solo 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: road trip to just listen and have like a little 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: zen experience between the suburbs of Chicago and I guess 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: what is that Eastern Southeastern Michigan. I don't know. Uh, 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. We get to go to a 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: college football game, we get to each other. You're gonna 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: get a full night sleep, apparently what you're. 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Looking forward to. I'm thrilled for the full night of sleep. 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: I will miss the dogs dearly, but could definitely use 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: a good night of. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Sleep, whatever decisions we make food wise, I'm positive we're 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: gonna eat super well, as you always seem to do 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: when you're near me. So it's great time. I'm doing great. 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: We've got a great weekend of games ahead of us, 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: and I guess we're gonna watch at tailgates, maybe a 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: little bit like during commercial breaks and halftime during the 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: game itself. After the game, we're gonna be able to 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna wolf down some college football content along the 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: way on Saturday. I'm very excited. 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We are going to be in 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: an ann arbor. If you will be there too. We've 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: gotten emails and messages from people who will also be 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: at the game, so keeping coming. We're gonna do our part, 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: try and meet up before the game with some people 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: who are there. 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know if you're there, tailgating, whatever. 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: We will be doing a show that goes out Saturday night. 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: As per usual, it will be a bit of an 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: abbreviated show because of circumstances, we're not gonna be able 43 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: to watch all of the games. We will do our 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: part to present as much of a fair and balance 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: a complete overview as we can, but no guarantees, so 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: don't hold us to that, but make sure you download 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: that episode on Sunday morning. Whatever we don't get to 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, the drill, we'll get to it on the 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Tuesday spillover episode. Dan. This week we've got a Bombus 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: gift card that we're giving away. 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If 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: you are a brief person, whatever you want, they've got. 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: It's a no brainer unless you're scared to compete. Let's 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: just know some people out there, they just love Tie, 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: they just love Dan. But they say to themselves, I 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: don't know how to pick games. I don't know as 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: much as these brilliant goofballs. I just am scared to compete. 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: If that's you don't But if you have what it takes, 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: come on in for ballers dot com. 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: What does it take to pick the games correctly? In 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: week ten? MM, because I look at this slate and 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: I think I am again falling victim to the same 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: thing that I have phoned victim to for the last 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: how ever many years of doing this show, and that 82 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: is I am a much better low information picker. At 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. That is, when I excel 84 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: the first eight weeks of the season, I feel wonderful. 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: But now as we kind of turn the page into 86 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: the latter stages of October, as we get into November, 87 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: more information, more data to consume, more things to consider. 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: This is when I psych myself out, so I try 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: to get away from that in picking the games this week, 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: I am certain I have failed miserably. How do you 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: see this week ten as you look across the board here? 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is when when we get into November, right, 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: this is when depth becomes an issue. This is when 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: you don't want to get seduced by last week's games 95 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: because it might have just been an aberration in a 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: good way, in a bad way, in a weird way, 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: because Smud six turnovers or Syracuse through five interceptions, right that, 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: like somebody is at the depths of their season, or 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: somebody is looking truly incredible, but it's not necessarily representative. 100 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: And speaking of depths, right like, this is when depth 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: plays an issue. This is when like, oh man, they've 102 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: been pretty good, but as we get into this, they're 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: a little bit beat up and they're not winning games 104 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: by as many points. And so this is when I 105 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: see when I look at these matchups, whether it's the 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: headliners like Ohio State Penn State, or pit SMU or 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: South Carolina, Texas A and M, or even a game 108 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: like USC Washington, I look around and I say, this 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: team probably isn't as blank as they were then in 110 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: a good way or a bad way. Right that Baylor 111 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: was kind of disappointing early, but the defense was kind 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: of there. But now the offense is coming through a 113 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: little bit and you're getting into you're getting into the 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: trophy games. I think we've got the Heartland Trophy this 115 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: week Iowa Wisconsin. Hard to see that being a thirty 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: five to seven game in either direction, Right, Yeah, we've 117 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: got what there's I think there's another trophy game. Oh, 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: we've got the old Brass Spittoon, I believe, Indiana Michigan State. 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: So you're getting into the cold up north. You got 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: the trophy games. And you cut that tie with what 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: people are going to be wearing Halloween weekend if they 122 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: didn't celebrate last weekend, and you're talking about superhero costumes, 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: you're talking about people looking maybe a little bit extra sexy, 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: looking to be a little bit extra feisty on Halloween. 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Coupling that with what I look and see a lot 126 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: of snug potential results, I have this as a skin 127 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: tight Saturday. Not too kind? Is that Catwoman? Is that Catwoman? 128 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: That is Catwoman from Batman? The animated series. 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Kind Wow, that's a pull. 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: And you know what, I got a little bit of 131 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: shivers when I hear her. Yeah, that's who I am 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: at a forty one. 133 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: It's a little bit with you there. Well, that was 134 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: a long wind up and you would have dunk on 135 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: me for my stats, but I appreciate it. Look I 136 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: like the idea of the skin tight Saturday. Yes, I 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: really do, because there are a number of point spreads 138 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: here that felt too low to me. And I just 139 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: wonder if again Vegas knows something that I do not right, 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: And that is where we start this episode. Do not 141 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: forget to give us a call at eight five five 142 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: verbal three as you are watching this week's games. Because 143 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: of our circumstances, we won't play the reverbs on Saturday night. 144 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: We will play them on Tuesday. So, if anything, you've 145 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: got more time to get those reverbs in. We've instructed 146 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Shay accordingly to give it a little bit more time 147 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: before he cuts those. We will again play those on 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: the Tuesday spillover episode. If you are ever so inclined, 149 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: if you are ready to dive into skin tight Saturday, 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, why don't we pick some games? 151 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: Let's do it and time to help me am the week. 152 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: It is week ten and we start with the big 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: noon game. Words cannot express how juiced up Gush Johnson's 154 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna be for this one. Dan I set the over 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: under right out of the shoot here at four and 156 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: one half. Big Zamboni references for Andy kotal Nikki and 157 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: certainly a game of this magnitude will also have a 158 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: nickname on the other side of things, So what that 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: ends up being remains to be seen. Gus is big 160 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: on the transportation theme, nicknamed he likes to pounds see 161 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: if he goes in a different direction. But Big Zamboni 162 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: definitely making an appearance in this matchup between Ohio State 163 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: and Penn State. Ohio State in Beaver Stadium. This is 164 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the last time they will be in Beaver Stadium until 165 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight because of the scheduling rotation, because next 166 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: year's matchup is in Columbus, So there's a lot riding 167 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: on this. 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: Not so think not playing in two years? Is that 169 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: what's happening? 170 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm playing in two years? 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: No, Oh, that's dumb. 172 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: There will be an ongoing rotation now is we've got 173 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: an eighteen team conference. Nonetheless, We've got this one, and 174 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: it's a big one in Ohio State is favored by 175 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: three and a half points. Dan, I was thinking about 176 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: this a little bit, and James Franklin and Ryan Day 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: have a lot in common. They're both judged on how 178 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: well they perform against Michigan. 179 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Franklin, though I would argue from a Penn State standpoint, 181 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: is very much judged based solely on this game. Okay, 182 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: this has always been the game in Penn State fans circles. 183 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: Even though Franklin doesn't have a ton of success, He's 184 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: one to ten against Ohio State and his time in 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: state college lost the last seven. 186 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: This is the game. 187 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: This is the one that I think Penn State fans 188 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: hold up as kind of the measuring stick for how 189 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: well he is doing as coach, how far along this 190 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: program is as a whole relative to it appears in 191 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: the conference and around college football. 192 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they seem to recruit against each other a ton, 193 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: right the State's touch there's a lot of overlap. Obviously, 194 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: Justin Fields was committed to penns shap for a while. 195 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: Like there's just those ongoing I want to say, Terrell 196 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: pryor jeanet Pa the Pride of jeanet Pa was looking 197 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: at Penn State, Ohio State. There's there's just always that 198 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: friction there. I think you're right. 199 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Johnson's senior longtime line as four or two. So there's 200 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: a lot of connective tissue here. 201 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 202 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Nonetheless, Penn State has won this game just three times 203 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: in the history of our podcast, dating back to two 204 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Yeah, okay, so this has not been 205 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: a successful matchup for the Knits. I am biased. I'm 206 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: very biased, So I'm gonna let you go first. I 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: struggled with this one. I struggled with this one mightily, 208 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: and I can explain why in a second. But where 209 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: are you at with this one? 210 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: I went back and forth with this one. It obviously 211 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: checks a number of boxes in terms of my belief system. 212 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Penn State as an underdog at home in a difficult 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: place to play, the problem with that is we've seen 214 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: Penn State lose these games at home, these big games 215 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: to these big opponents, and so it's difficult to say, like, oh, 216 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: Penn State, good defense at home, you know, harsh, crowd, loud, crowd, energetic, 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: electric crap. They've lost these games with James Franklin the 218 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: entire matchup, like it'll come down to how aggressive and 219 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: successful Penn State is upfront with a beat up Ohio 220 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: State offensive line. Now we can overreact to the struggles 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: they had last week against Nebraska. I thought Nebraska did 222 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: a good job. I thought Ohio State's play calling was 223 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: a little bit weird. But you can't pass a ton 224 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: if Will Howard's not protected, you can't run a ton 225 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: if the lanes aren't there, and Josh Simmons is out 226 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: for the year, and you know, back up, some guys 227 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: who are sliding around were not successful and or beat 228 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: up in that Nebraska game. So that to me is 229 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: kind of everything that if Penn State has a pass 230 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: rush and wave up front and building a wall whatever 231 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: upfront against the run those two talented running backs, it's 232 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: going to be very difficult for Ohio State. There's just 233 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: only so much they can do. On the other side. 234 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Who's playing quarterback? Right, who's playing quarterback? Because if it 235 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: is Drew Aller, it's probably gonna be a severely limited 236 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: Drew Aller. 237 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know about it severely, but limited I 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: think is fair. I mean sounds like he's got a 239 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: tweak knee that's the rumor. I don't believe it's anything serious. 240 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: I do believe he's going to give it a shot, 241 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: but it's fair to assume that he's not going to 242 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: move around as well, And. 243 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, and it's not just a running Also. 244 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: We may see, even if he's healthy, a fair amount 245 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: of bo pribula in light of what we saw happen 246 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: a week ago when he came in and kind of 247 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: ignited that offense in a different way. Not saying he's 248 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: better and should be the starter moving forward, but he 249 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: definitely gave them a different dynamic on offense. So I 250 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: think we'll see both of them one way or another. 251 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: But Aler's mobility is definitely something that we need to 252 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,479 Speaker 1: keep an eye on against a really good Ohio State front. 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: I'd love to see what Penn State looks like in 254 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: the first half. They've been able to survive a bunch 255 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: of not so great first half performances this year. Seems 256 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: like if they don't have an offensive game plan and 257 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: the ability to execute a good big game plan in 258 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: that first half, digging out against Ohio State where you 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: probably need to score at least I mean nebrask game 260 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: now was standing, but you probably need to score twenty 261 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: eight thirty points to have a decent shot at beating 262 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Ohio State if it's a bo Probula team. For as 263 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: much of a spark as he probably is, he's not 264 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: a mystery to Ohio State at this point that he 265 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: could be the starting quarterback in this game. So I 266 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: went back and forth in this one. I just think 267 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: there is more potential for more big plays, for chunkier plays, 268 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: for playing to the moment. With Ohio State winning this game, 269 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: I wrote down thirty to twenty four Ohio State. 270 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the biggest sticking point for me, and 271 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: that's Ohio State's a much more explosive team than Penn State. 272 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: And you see it when you watch the games. You 273 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: see it reflected in the spreadsheets. They can just beat 274 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: you so many different ways. You're not going to stop them. 275 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: It is a question of containment. You want to get 276 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: a few stops here and there, and then you got 277 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: to try and find a way to out score them 278 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: because you're not going to hold them to seventeen points 279 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: to twenty one points. I just think there are too 280 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: many weapons there. That's basically what Oregon did thirty two 281 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: to thirty one was at the final I mean, and 282 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: they got You get a couple of plays here and there, 283 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: you find a way to eke it out. 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: But they hit those chunky plays. 285 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: They hit the chunk plays, And this is a sticking 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: point for me with this one. The other thing, you know, 287 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: I like Penn State's defense. I think you'd be crazy 288 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: to not like it. But fifty five percent of the 289 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: time they're playing really tight Manda Man coverage. This is 290 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: a tough receiver corps to play a Manda Man against. 291 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I agree it is tough. Don't be surprised if you 292 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: see a lot of pass interference calls in this game. 293 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: All right, this is one of these matchups that I 294 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: think devolves into a shootout through the air, Or if 295 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: it devolves into a shootout through the air, it's not 296 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: favorable to Penn State because that's just not where they're 297 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: at right now. I like Tyler Warren. I think they 298 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: have found a way to incorporate some of their other receivers. 299 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: I do think they're at least a little bit more 300 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: downfield of a passing team than would meet the eye. 301 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: But they're not on the same plane as Ohio State's 302 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: receiving corps. They're just not So I'm not sold that 303 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Penn State can win a game like this, not because 304 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Drew Aller can't throw. He has had a good year, 305 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: But I just think it's a Jimmy's and Joe's thing. 306 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: I think Ohio State is better players. I am very, 307 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: very curious to see what Penn State's plan is on offense. 308 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: And this speaks to your point about first half, especially 309 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: if there is now a question about quarterback with Drew Hour. 310 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: My guess is, again, if ty were the coach, I 311 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: would try to shorten the game as best I could, Okay, 312 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: and I think that's what they're going to try to do. 313 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: I think they want to try and force the issue 314 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: on the ground, and maybe this is where we're likely 315 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: to see bo Prabulah, where we're likely to see creative 316 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: sets with Tyler Warren, who is drawing Travis Kelcey comparisons. 317 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: Now have you seen this have not be good for him. 318 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I am skeptical that that's going to work because if 319 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: we know it's coming, and I think. 320 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: We know it's coming, I think I know it's coming. 321 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State does too, And if this is the plan, 322 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, then you got to rely 323 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: on Drew Holler, and it gets into that desk viral 324 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: that I described a minute ago where you got to 325 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: throw more than you want to. Right here is the 326 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: caveato matting though, to your point about the first half, Yeah, 327 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: we have seen two recent instances of Penn State being 328 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: down at halftime and then zooming back into the game 329 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: on the road against sc and then on the road 330 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: against Wisconsin a week ago. 331 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: They have been very good at making. 332 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: These adjustments and sort of growing into games. So if 333 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: you're somebody out there who likes to take a peek 334 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: at the live lines, not the worst idea to root 335 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: for a couple quick scores if you don't have a 336 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: rooting interest in this game. Not the worst idea to 337 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: root for a couple quick scores by Ohio State and 338 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: then jump in on Penn State twenty four to twenty 339 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: bowling green at halftime against Penn State as well. Correct. Yeah, 340 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: The reason I struggled with this is that I think 341 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: is obvious I want Penn State to win desperately. I'm 342 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: a Penn State grad, and I found myself continually trying 343 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: to reverse engineer a storyline in which Penn State wins. 344 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I can't in good faith pick them to win after 345 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: three months of pumping up a hole state. That would 346 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: be the most hypocritical thing I could do. Even though 347 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for it, I don't think I can pick it. 348 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a good game. I think it's thirty 349 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: one twenty late. I think Penn State scores the touchdown. 350 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: They try to go for two to get it to 351 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: thirty one twenty eight, but they miss it. I think 352 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: the Buckey's escapable late charge and they win thirty one 353 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: to twenty six. 354 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: Man' that's very specific, and so I hope for your sake, 355 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: for your own pride in picking that works out. But 356 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: I hope you're wrong as a Penn State person. The 357 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: big thing has been though with Penn State is in 358 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: games where this has been close, in games where they've 359 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: put themselves in position to win this game. Because Ohio 360 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: States had these types of receivers for a long time. Now, 361 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: you know, year over year, whether it's Chris Olave, Marvin 362 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: Harrison Junior, Jeremiah Smith like they've had these guys, it's 363 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: Penn State's had guys to counter that. Parker Washington caught 364 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: a bunch in a losing effort, or kJ Hamlin or 365 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Jahan Dotson, like they've had those guys and now it's 366 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: hope Tyler Warren's that guy and can overcome whatever is 367 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: lacking the rest of these pass catchers in terms of consistency. 368 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: I just I think you need somebody like that to 369 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: get to thirty. And as you pointed out in Penn 370 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: State not getting to thirty, I think that's where you 371 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: know that that's what separates even an injured Ohio State 372 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: with also potentially an injured Penn State. I think that's 373 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: the separation factor. 374 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, maybe maybe somebody does step up outside 375 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: of Tyler Warren. Maybe it's somebody we haven't seen yet. 376 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, but this is this is a hypothetical, right, 377 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: These are the types of games where, yeah, players can 378 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: come out of the shadows and emerge. Is it is 379 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: it Trey Wallace, is it Omar Omari Evans, Liam Clifford, 380 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: Like Julian Fleming, Maybe this is the Julian Fleming revenge 381 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: game we've been waiting for. I don't I'm skeptical of that. 382 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm always skeptical of a team holding something back or 383 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: somebody just emerging sort of out of the blue to 384 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: have a big game. So I'm rooting for Penn State. Yeah, 385 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: I think that part's obvious. But I've been talking up 386 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State as one of the best two teams frankly 387 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: in the country for a good long time now, and 388 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: for me to kind of turn my back on that 389 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: would go against all the hard research I've done over 390 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: the over the last couple of months. 391 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is, by the way, huge game in 392 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: terms of Big Ten Conference, huge implications, right, like absolutely huge. 393 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: Ohio State needs this game, maybe not in a way 394 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: Penn State. Penn State doesn't need it as much as 395 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: Ohio State and in this moment, but yeah, there's a 396 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: lot on the line here. 397 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Three point thirty CBS Oregon minus fourteen and a half 398 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: points at Michigan. This is a tian Dan game. We're 399 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: going to be there. We're going to be there if 400 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: you will be there too. Again, soliverbo at gmail dot 401 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: com is the easiest way to reach out and let 402 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: us know we would love to meet you in the 403 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: part is happily married? Yeah, I am happily married. We'd 404 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: love to meet you in the parking lot. Yeah, before 405 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: the game in Temecula. 406 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 407 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: So when we first drew up the plans to go 408 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: to this game way back when, suffice to say, the 409 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 1: world was in a much different place. On Tuesday, you 410 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: and I talked about this more as a means for 411 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: our cheese exchange than a college football game. I am 412 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: going to procure the Cooper sharp Cooper's Sharp White American 413 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: shortly after we record today, and I'm going to figure 414 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: out a way to pack it. Our friend Tim Buckley, 415 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: the weather authority down in North Carolina, has assured me 416 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: via Twitter that you can take cheese on a plane, 417 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: that it's not going to like flag anything in the 418 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: FAA system. I feel good now that an authority has 419 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: weighed in on this. There was news this week that 420 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: Jack Tuttle is hanging it up after a fifth concussion. 421 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: Well five is a lot, so we obviously wish him 422 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: with sad news. We obviously wish him well with whatever 423 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: comes next. As for this game, though, the thing that 424 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: I am hung up on is that's a lot of 425 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: points for Michigan. That's a lot of points for Michigan 426 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: at home. And this is not to say that I 427 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: am crazy impressed by anything that Michigan's done offensively, although 428 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: they did look better a week ago, it just seems 429 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: like fourteen and a half is an awful lot, especially 430 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: for an Oregon team that hasn't had a lot of 431 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: road tests quite like this in the big House this year. Right, 432 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: So I'm a bit torn on where I come down 433 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: with respect to the points spread. I think Oregon's winning, 434 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Oregon's a better team, but really it's a question of 435 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: point spread for me. 436 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: So if you're Michigan, you have to have a very 437 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: specific right. You said, if you were coaching Penn State, 438 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: you would shorten the game, you would do all. I mean, 439 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: that's sort of what the Michigan plan needs to be. 440 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: I've been texting with our friend Jeff Schwartz about this 441 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: a bunch where it's just like Michigan has to hope 442 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: for the most successful game of pickleball known to man, 443 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: because that's all they're really capable of. Offensively. They can 444 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: run it all, right. They have Colston Lovelin, obviously one 445 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: of the best tight ends in America. But they've had 446 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: nine or ten weeks now to figure out how to 447 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: optimize this offense. Who should be starting at quarterback obviously, 448 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: Jack Tuttle's been beat up and is now no longer playing. 449 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: Davis Warren starts out, Alex Orgie comes in. It's very 450 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: clear alex Orgy is not a high level college football 451 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: quarterback in the traditional sense. So he can be very 452 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: effective on third and three, third one, third and goal, 453 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: something like that. But I don't know if Michigan is 454 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: looking and staring down third and eight's kind of screwed 455 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: against a good defense. The best hope Michigan has is 456 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: successful pick a ball, being that magician to turn sevens 457 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: into threes when Oregon has the ball in the red 458 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: zone and shortening this game. I just don't think that's 459 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: a sustainable plan if we are to believe Oregon is excellent, 460 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: and I happen to think Oregon is excellent because of 461 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: how complete they seem to be right now. Michigine has 462 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: had nine or ten weeks to figure out receivers, nine 463 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: or ten weeks to figure out a plan for the secondary, 464 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: nine or ten weeks to figuregure out adjustments on defense. 465 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: They haven't be able to do it. I think there's 466 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: a good chance Oregon, especially with Will Johnson being I 467 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: think at best questionable in this game to play corner, 468 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: and if he's playing, he's not gonna be at one 469 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: hundred percent. I think there's extraordinary opportunity for Oregon in 470 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: the passing game to take it to Michigan. And this 471 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: is once again, this is not a game over Oregon's overlooking. 472 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: It's Network TV, it's Michigan, it's the defending champ. It's 473 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: the opportunity to make a statement when a lot of 474 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: people are going to be watching. I don't know, I 475 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: think Oregon's able to even if they don't jump on 476 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: Michigan the way Illinois did. I have this as like 477 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: thirty one seventeen or thirty one thirteen, something like that. 478 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: Thirty four to seventeen, I think in the range. I 479 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: think they cover by two, three four points. I think 480 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: they win this game, maybe thirty seven to twenty something 481 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: like that. I just I think you have to be 482 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: able to match Oregon and Oregon speed. And Michigan scored 483 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: seven against right against Illinois, So I mean that was 484 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: that was a tuttle game. Right, that's a different quarterback. 485 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: But I don't see Davis Horren being a big enough 486 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: difference maker when Oregon has been holding these questionable big 487 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: ten offenses to nine, ten, thirteen points, some of which 488 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: is in garbage time. I don't know Oregon's finishing drives 489 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: on defense, and I think it's just going to make 490 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: it a long day for Michigan. 491 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: To Michigan's credit, I do think last week against Michigan State. 492 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: Now Michigan State is on Oregon, but I do think 493 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: it was an important moment for this offense. It felt 494 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: more like they found a better balance of how to 495 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: use those two quarterbacks, and that's meaningful because it's taking 496 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: them a while to get here. 497 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: All right. 498 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: That was We talked about it on the recap show. 499 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: That was a nice win for Michigan. Yeah, against a 500 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: rival in state, but they held off Michigan State. I 501 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: thought they looked pretty good all things considered. So maybe 502 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: they've turned a corner on that front. We know the 503 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: offense is limited, but they're just a hard team. To 504 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: blow out the PA really slowly. They should be able 505 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: to run the ball somewhat against Oregon. Yeah, still like 506 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: the defense. I'd like it more if Will Johnson played. 507 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: We are told by a Sharan More that he will 508 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: be back. He's not shutting it down. He will be 509 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: back at some point. In November when that is remains 510 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: to be seen. Obviously, if he goes out there against 511 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Oregon and has a good game, that would help help 512 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: draft stock, but that you know, we don't know if 513 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen or not. And again I come back 514 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: to what I said here when I introduced the game. 515 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Oregon's not really road tested. They played it or not, 516 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: they played in Hornet's nests at Oregon State, UCLA and 517 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: Purdue Dan. Correct, this is a little bit of a 518 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: step up in that regard, So I like Oregon to win. 519 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: Oregon's the better team for all of those reasons, though, 520 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: and for the reasons I described at the top of this, 521 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I got like twenty eight to sixteen. Okay, I think 522 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: Oregon wins going away, But I do think this is 523 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: one of those deals where Chigan's style of play, combined 524 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: with their defense, combined with the atmosphere and all that 525 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: stuff within that fourteen and a half number, that just 526 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: feels like too much for me to give it. 527 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: Hell, are they those nineteen against Texas thirty one to twelve? 528 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: Thirty one? Twelve? 529 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, my shaky mat says nineteen. There's week two and 530 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: now there's more tape out on Michigan. Michigan's more beat up, 531 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: it seems than they were back then. 532 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: Look it's I'm with you. I get it. We're in 533 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: agreement that Oregon's gonna win this one by double digits. 534 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: It's just really a question of the point spread. 535 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, we just seven point thirty A, B C. 536 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: Texas, A and M minus two and a half at 537 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: South Carolina. The line has come down. A and M 538 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: off that emotional home comeback over LSU. Now they're alone 539 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: atop the SEC standings. Can they avoid the rat poison? Dan? 540 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, the rat everyone's talking about A and M 541 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: suddenly can they avoid the rat poison? As Saban once 542 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: called it? Now they're on the road against South Carolina. 543 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: South Carolina off a bye correct, South Carolina in need 544 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: of just two more wins. They've got one in the bag. Later, 545 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: I think it's against Wafford. Need to beat one of 546 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: three SEC teams the rest of the way in order 547 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: to get to six wins to qualify for a Bowl, 548 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: which frankly is an incredible story because I don't we 549 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: didn't have that. I didn't have that, a lot of 550 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: people didn't have that. So this is a team that 551 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: is overperformed on some level. I wanted to start this 552 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: conversation though, with something that you mentioned to me yesterday. Okay, 553 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: with your d analytics, you. 554 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: Popped the hood. 555 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: You took a look at points per drive with respect 556 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: to all these teams that we're going to discuss, but 557 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: especially with Texas A and M. You found something interesting 558 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: with Texas A and M when you compared last year 559 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: versus this year. 560 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're basically unchanged with regard to you know, points 561 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: per drive scored minus points per drive allowed, their net 562 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: points per drive. They're performing in an almost identical way 563 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: to last season. The difference being they have a better 564 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: coaching staff and they're winning those closer games instead of 565 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: losing them like they did last year. When you look 566 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: at whatever Tennessee and Alabama and they're pulling the game 567 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: out or you know, staying ahead of a team like 568 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 2: Arkansas or whoever. This year, Mississippi State, they're winning games 569 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: where they have stretches where they're not particularly good. Obviously, 570 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: it hasn't been a consistent offense going between two different quarterbacks, 571 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: so that obviously plays a specific role in things. And 572 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: starting out with a new coach losing to Notre Dame 573 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: where the offense didn't really exist against a good Notre 574 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: Dame team. So, yes, they are finishing stronger, they're making 575 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: better decisions, they're getting better over the course of games. 576 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: But it's not like this is a night and day 577 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: performance from where they were last year as a pretty 578 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 2: good team who lost winnable moments. 579 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: I think that speaks volumes for Mike Elko. 580 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it's a complete, one hundred percent 581 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: compliment on how well this team is coached. 582 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: This year to have the same amount basically of output 583 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: and be in a much much different spot where they're 584 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: a top the SEC and expanded SEC and more teams 585 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: in this thing different conference structure. All that again, A 586 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: and M's riding high, literally riding high atop the standings. 587 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: I think the breakdown for this game is really straightforward. 588 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: I think A and M's got to deal with the 589 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: South Carolina defensive line and they have to figure out 590 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: a way to dominate with their own M and that's it. 591 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: It's not more complicated than that. We do not need 592 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: to overcomplicate it. The Carolina offense right now is a 593 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: top fifty unit, which is okay, very okay, highly inefficient 594 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: have playmakers. We love Leonoris, the creator on this show. 595 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: Of course, highly inefficient. Whatever they've done is in spite 596 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: of their line, not because of it. They do not 597 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: have a good line, so it is a big mismatch 598 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: up front. If they can figure out a way to 599 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: deal with that. A and M is prone to the 600 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: big play. But even still, it seems like a bridge 601 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: too far for me that they're just going to be 602 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: able to work with. They're going to dispose of this 603 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: Texas A and M defensive line knowing how good it is, 604 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: so that I think is a big advantage for A 605 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: and M. Even though I do like Lenora Sellers, it's 606 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: an inefficient offense with a bad line going up against 607 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: a good defensive front that favors A and M. I 608 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: also think the play should be to stick with barcel 609 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Red and as do I. At time of recording, I 610 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: have not seen this officially mentioned anywhere. If Mike Elco 611 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: were smart, he wouldn't tell anybody. But presumably Shane Beemer 612 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: is going to be prepared for him now. It's not 613 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: going to be a Brian Kelly situation a week ago, 614 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: and they weren't his legs I think can help offset 615 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: that Carolina line to some extent. I think that's what 616 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: they are counting on. I think that gives them something 617 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: of an advantage here, or at least a device to 618 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: counteract what we know is coming. 619 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: From keivemont Balance. Yeah. 620 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seven to seventeen. A and M is my 621 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: final man that okay. 622 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: So that kind of score says to me, you feel 623 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: like A and M has arrived in year one of 624 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: Mike Elco, that this is a this is a completed team. 625 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: I think it's more of vote against South Carolina as 626 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: a complete team. 627 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think that's okay. I have 628 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: South Carolina winning this game and I hate it. Whoa Okay, 629 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: So here's what South Carolina needs. South Carolina needs two 630 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: and a half Pixie Dust moments. So they're gonna need 631 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: a seventy seven yard touchdown run. They're gonna need a 632 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: pick six, they're gonna need I mean, they have maybe 633 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: the best on side kicker in America after his three 634 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: thousand RPM onside. 635 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: Do you really like that tweet of mine? That might 636 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: be my favorite? You nailed it, Yeah, it was. It 637 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: was beautiful. 638 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything that beautiful in my life. They 639 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: need the pixie dust because I don't necessarily trust Lenora 640 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: Sellers if they're down twenty one seventeen with three minutes 641 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 2: left after the end of that Alabama game, and now 642 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: I know this game is at home, So maybe that's 643 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: a different animal. Wow, And maybe that that moment was 644 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: used to fuel Leonora's Sellers into sort of calming down 645 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: and having more of a plan late in games and 646 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: being on the better page with this offensive court. I 647 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: think this is an incredibly difficult spot for A and 648 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: M on offense, for Marcel Reid specifically, I would agree 649 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: with that. I think that's a fair assessment. I just 650 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: I can't get there on South Carolina, Dan, I get there. 651 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 2: I just I don't trust this offense enough against this 652 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: A and M defense, with what this defense did against 653 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: a much worse offense in Oklahoma. But when you see 654 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: that A and M still has some questions along the 655 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: offensive line and they're going to face this front, I 656 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to get the pixie dust. Wow. 657 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: I think this is such an advantaged moment. It's a 658 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: letdown spot after a big game against LSU South Carolina 659 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: coming off of a bye. I don't know, we've seen 660 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: that like late season Shane Beemer fun. I think it 661 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: does come down to that matchup. I think it does 662 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: come down to the moment being maybe a little bit 663 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: large from Marcel Reid who won in Gainesville. I want 664 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: to say that was in Gainesville, so he has wrote tested. 665 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: I think South Carolina just plays to the moment. Twenty 666 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: three to twenty one game cocks. 667 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: Wow, this would throw things in a friggin blender in 668 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: the SEC and certainly with regard to the playoff conversation 669 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: because A and M has gradually worked its way back up. 670 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we disagree. And by the way, South Carolina did 671 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: well against Jaleen Monroe mobile quarterback, sure, perhaps the most 672 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: mobile quarterback and now a Marcel Reed Okay, all. 673 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Right, this would be something we shall see, Yes, eight pm, 674 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: a CC network. Maybe the biggest game ever to appear 675 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: in the ACC network. 676 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: Potentially. 677 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is criminal that this game is not getting 678 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: more love. However, if you're listening to this show, you've 679 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: probably got some way to watch the ACC Network, So 680 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: I would assume you can enjoy the silky smooth tones 681 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: of our friend West Durham Oh, nice, Love West. I 682 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: believe he's on the call for this one here Pitt 683 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: at SMU eight pm Eastern Time. SMU a seven and 684 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: one half point home favorite. The question is whether Eli Holstein, 685 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: the quarterback, is going to play for Pitt. He went 686 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: down later in the game last Thursday against Syracuse. Pretty 687 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: much immediately afterwards, Paton Rdoozy downplayed the injury, but now 688 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: he's playing it back up because Nardoozy's a gamesman. He 689 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and he has basically not given 690 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: a tell as to whether or not it's going to 691 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: be him or natean Ariel y are now excuse me? 692 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: My expectation is that he's going to play based on 693 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: our dog's initial reaction, but things can change. Yeah, here's 694 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: my honest question to you. Okay, do you trust either 695 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: of these teams to lay seven and a half points 696 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: against a good opponent? 697 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't think I do. I love this matchup 698 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: for how up in the air everything seems, and the 699 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 2: obvious overlap is SMU just committed six turnovers last week 700 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: and Pitt just turned Kyle McCord over personally five times. 701 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: All linebackers, great linebacking corps I think they have like 702 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: the number two or three have a great among all 703 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: linebacking groups in the country that there is that that's 704 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 2: a fun number to overreact to in this moment because 705 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to come true in this moment, 706 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: but it is fun that fresh off of six turnovers 707 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: they get five pick Pittsburgh. 708 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: Well, and this isn't a shanty game for me. This 709 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: isn't a shanty game because if it is about trust, 710 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: and in this case, if we don't trust anybody, you 711 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: got to take the points. 712 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: That's what I have. I have point taking literally points taken. 713 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: You got you gotta take the points here. I have 714 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: it at thirty four to thirty one. SMU. I think 715 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: they win. I think it's a fun game. Maybe the 716 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: best game of this window twenty seven twenty four is mine. Yeah, SMU, Yes, 717 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: SMU pulls it out at home. There is something that 718 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: I trust a little more in the Ashanti corolary about 719 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: SMU in higher leverage moments than pitt who have been 720 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: shaky on third down and a little bit shaky in 721 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: the red zone this season, and so knowing that obviously 722 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: SMU in that stadium, No, it's a huge game and 723 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: huge opportunity for them. 724 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: We'll be rocking. So that, to me is the question. 725 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: You couple that with quarterback question health wise, with the 726 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: Ili Holstein, No, I think Nate Arnel is pretty good. 727 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: I thought probably was a somewhat of a difficult decision 728 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 2: in camp, But I give the edge to the home team. 729 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: There is going to be by the way X factor 730 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: here rain in the forecast time. 731 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: Uh oh, look at you love this. This is your 732 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: favorite thing in the world. 733 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it doesn't always come to pass. You know. 734 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: Maybe the rain is over before the start, maybe it 735 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: is delayed. Whatever their slop potential A little bit of 736 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: slop potential here on skin tight Saturday. How about the 737 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: skin tight Saturday? 738 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: What I'm looking at a specifically as the lines, both 739 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: of the offensive lines are heavily penalized. Pitt misses more blocks, 740 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: Smu allows more pressure. That pressure I think is something 741 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: worth monitoring here because I'll go back to a stat 742 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: that I mentioned a few weeks ago. Now we know 743 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: in light of last week, obviously, Kevin Jennings is a 744 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: bit mistake prone. Yeah, Pitt Blitz is something like forty 745 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: three percent of the time on defense, just a lot, 746 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: third highest rate in college football. Very aggressive in the 747 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: front seven. I don't know if they've encountered anyone yet 748 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: though that can take advantage of all those numbers coming forward. 749 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: And the stat from a few weeks ago is that 750 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Jennings. Now, I don't know if how these numbers 751 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: have moved in light of last week, but until fairly recently, 752 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Jennings has a higher or had a higher completion 753 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: percentage against the blitz than he did just sitting back 754 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: in the pocket. Yes, which is kind of a backwards 755 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: way of thinking of things here, right. I am curious 756 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: to see if Pitt's strength brings out Kevin Jennings' strength. 757 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: It feels clunky to me too, Yeah, but I'm curious 758 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: to see how the lines play in and how that 759 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: pit blitz effects or does not affect Kevin Jennings and 760 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: his ability to move the ball through the air. Okay, 761 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: but thirty four to thirty one SMU again, I think 762 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: a fun game. I've been talking this one up for 763 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now. I hope people have a 764 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: chance to watch this one if they have the ACC 765 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: network or can like borrow somebody's password. To log into 766 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: ESPN dot. 767 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: Coorxt tie six one. Oh yeah, keep going, Tie. 768 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm excited about this game, and it's very 769 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: meaningful with respect to the ACC. You know, these are 770 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: two of the unbeaten ACC teams right now and they 771 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: both need it. So we'll see, we'll see coming out 772 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: of this one when we talk about things on Hopefully 773 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: it's over by the time we record that we can 774 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: at least offer some comment on this, but at a 775 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: minimum Tuesday to circle back. 776 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: And talk about this one. Definitely, So we agree, I 777 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: guess right. We agree. Let's build some quads. 778 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: Dan. There weren't a whole lot of other true headliners 779 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: that jumped out to me, but there are a bunch 780 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: of intriguing matchups throughout the course of the day. 781 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: I think about the heart, the passion, the love, the 782 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 2: commitment and energy you're willing to put into an. 783 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: We call this segment the quad Fathers. We go through 784 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: each block of games, we build your ideal quads. If 785 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing you can do either via your streaming 786 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: provider or manually. If you're one of the. 787 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 2: Real ones, Dan, one of the real ones. 788 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Twelve pm ESPN, we got old Miss minus six and 789 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: a half on the road at Arkansas twelve o'clock on 790 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: the c DUB Virginia Tech minus four at Syracuse, twelve 791 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: a clock eastern on ABC. Duke at Miami, Miami favored 792 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: by twenty and I've included in here twelve forty five 793 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: just for the hell of it. Diego Pavia getting another 794 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: bite at that. Hugh Freeze Apple m Vandy at Auburn. 795 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 2: Auburn at home, favored by six and a half. 796 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Who you got, Okay? 797 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: I am going to go Arkansas plus points. Ooh yeah, 798 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 2: I think the offense is enough. We've so this game 799 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: has gone back and forth with ole Miss winning the 800 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: games in Oxford and Arkansas winning the games in Fayetteville 801 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 2: these last few years, including I want to say a 802 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: fifty two to fifty one Ole Miss win two years ago. 803 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: Some of these games have gotten weird. 804 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: They have that Lane Kiffin after the fact, basically, when interviewed, 805 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: Sideline said I hate how I feel right now, Like 806 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 2: he just had a full emotional moment in a winning effort. 807 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 2: He was like, I don't want to feel this way anymore. 808 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: It was great, and I fully identify with that, but 809 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points there because I think 810 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 2: Arkansas's offense has had a good amount of pop lately. Pa, Pa, 811 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: That's right, that's pop pop. That's magnitude from Community A PO. 812 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 2: I love it, and I think they can score along 813 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: with them. So I think it's going to be a shootout, 814 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: something somewhere in the vein of thirty eight thirty four, 815 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: something like that. Somebody. I'm gonna taking the points there. 816 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: See, I've got ole Miss by multiple scores. 817 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: Really, I do. 818 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: Arkansas might be the most talked about five and three team, 819 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: even more so than Michigan, at least on that show, 820 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: because they got the brutal schedule. They play most of 821 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: the teams of Merit in the SEC. But I'm not 822 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: ready to give up on ole Miss yet. 823 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: I think ole Miss can win this game. I just 824 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be very difficult to separate. 825 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to give up on them yet. I 826 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: am out on ole Miss as like a playoff team. 827 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: I think that ship is sailed, right, But I think 828 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: in terms of turning in another ten and two season, 829 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: they can do that, and I think they win this 830 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: one going away. I like the matchup for him. 831 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: Actually, I am giving points. I think Virginia Tech on 832 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: the road on CW against Syracuse. 833 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I think Tech's undervalued right now. 834 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: I agree with this, Okay, So Virginia Tech is a 835 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: I'll still call it weird and questionable series of decisions 836 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the Miami game from having I 837 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: think a better and stronger reputation of where they are 838 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 2: right now. I'm not saying Syracuse is what they were 839 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 2: against Pitt. I'm not saying that. To know Kyle McCord 840 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: is capable of five picks, it just scares me. He's 841 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: not gonna throw five picks. He probably won't throw two 842 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: or three picks against Virginia Tech. Against Virginia Tech, excuse me, 843 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: but that he's capable. It scares me a little bit. 844 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: With the way Virginia Tech has been playing, especially with 845 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: what they can do when they're running well, I'm gonna 846 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: take Virginia Tech on the road here. All Diego Pavia 847 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: does is beat up on Hu frees. I'm gonna take 848 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: Vandy on the road to cover if not when I 849 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: just sorry, I'm taking points Duke at Miami. Many Diaz 850 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: revenge game. It's a Many revenge game. Nanny Diaz revenge game. 851 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: Baby, Come on, he's taking that hair back to South 852 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: Beach where his dad was the mayor. 853 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 2: Yes, something like that. Man, he's got an ax to grind. 854 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: With this program. How could you not take the points? 855 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: Well, look, so they it's a let down spot in 856 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 2: that the end of the SMU game was certainly deflating 857 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: for Duke. They were right there to beat a good 858 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,479 Speaker 2: SMU team, but it seems like it's too many points. 859 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: This does seem like a game that previous iterations of 860 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: Mario christobaul in a letdown spot after establishing dominance against 861 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: Florida State, loses or barely survives against Duke here. I 862 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: don't think Duke has enough pop thanks Magnitude p PO 863 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: to score with Miami, but I think Duke up front 864 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: can maybe force a mistake or two from cam Ward 865 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: slow this game down a little bit. I don't know. 866 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: Twenty seven to seventeen Miami. 867 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, Duke forced a bunch of turnovers last week, Yes 868 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: they did, and like I think if their defense is 869 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: just interesting here. 870 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: I like that it's early too, by the way, ty yeah, 871 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 2: I like that it's that sleepy noon or in Miami. 872 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I look the Miami offensive scored 873 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: at least thirty six points in every game this season. 874 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: Duke is only scored twenty seven once. If Duke's gonna 875 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: win this game, if Duke's gonna stay within this number, 876 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna be by virtue of their defense. We know 877 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: they can force turnover, as we know Manny Diaz right now, 878 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: what that looks like, right, It's always kind of looked 879 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: the same. I think they can stay within that number. 880 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: I think Miami wins. But I'm going on Duke plus 881 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: the twenty. 882 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 2: A little bit of pre sip possibly in the forecast, 883 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 2: fifteen sixty mile an hour wins humid. I'm just saying. 884 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 1: Another game you could sub in FS one Minnesota minus 885 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: three at Illinois. 886 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 2: I really like Minnesota here. 887 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: I am so ready to be heard again by Minnesota. 888 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm so ready. I feel like they burn me every 889 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: year in this spot. I always boomerang back to Minnesota. 890 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why. I was 891 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: only in Minnesota one time in my life with you 892 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: love my time there as cold as hell. Yeah, they 893 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: burned me every year. Last week is a really good 894 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: situation for them, at home with Mayor and coming off 895 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: that USC win, but they look good. It wasn't just 896 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: a situational thing. The offense was humming. There is an 897 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: interesting quirk in this game in the blitzing stats. Okay, 898 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: Minnesota is one of the least blitzed teams in college football, 899 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: only about nineteen percent of the time when they drop back. Meanwhile, 900 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 1: Illinois blitz is about thirty five percent of the time 901 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: when a team drops back. So we're going with this 902 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: is how does Max Brosmer? How does that Minnesota line 903 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: handle that blitz? That to me is the whole thing. Okay, 904 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: the whole thing. I would also add that teams are 905 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: blitzing the farm against Illinois and Luke Altmeyer because they 906 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: are not good at protecting him at all. Minnesota has 907 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: blitzedey fair amount to its credit. I like Minnesota a lot. Here, 908 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: I am inclined. Oh, I don't know if I want 909 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: to do it. They're a road team, let's do it. 910 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: What the hell? 911 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 2: Wow of the week. 912 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: It just seems like a really bad matchup for me 913 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: for Illinois. I don't know. I don't like this matchup 914 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: for Illinois. 915 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So how you get to Minnesota is by being 916 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: a team that can possess the ball, can push them around, 917 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: have the ability to push them around a little bit. 918 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 2: That's Iowa. It's Michigan, and they're right there against Michigan. 919 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: Not Iowa, right, Not Illinois, No, it just isn't. Illinois 920 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 2: got some playmakers on defense in the back, and I 921 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: like Luke Altmeyer. I like the receivers. But this Minnesota 922 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: team has done a great job in preventing big plays. 923 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 2: So if you're telling me Illinois needs to be thoughtful 924 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: and patient and just figure out how to get to 925 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: third and three every time, I don't think they have 926 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: that ability. So I'm going with Minnesota here on the road, 927 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: maybe to turn them over a couple of years. 928 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna win sixteen to fourteen and screw me on that. 929 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: Lock Illinois coming off of the Oregon game, I don't know, 930 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: like soda here twenty to thirteen. By the way, early on, 931 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 2: there's some other interesting ones. I'll go. I'll buzz through 932 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: them really quick. I like Army big over air Force. 933 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: NC State giving ten points against anybody's hilarious. But Stanford 934 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: does nothing if not lose by many points every week, 935 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: although they were competitive against Wake last week. I like 936 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 2: Utsa by the way, at home against Memphis. I think 937 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: that's kind of a tasty matchup. I like that one. 938 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: And Purdue Northwestern Perdue coming off of bye they're gonna 939 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: beat Northwestern at home. Continue. 940 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: It's built some aster new quads. 941 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: Okay, question to you is how bad can you really 942 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: want play? Oh? 943 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: My god, only got three games in this squad. You're 944 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to fill in a fourth. 945 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 2: Okay. Florida Georgia is the first. 946 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,959 Speaker 1: One that's obvious. Three thirty ABC on Peacock, three thirty 947 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: Eastern Indiana minus seven on the road at Michigan State, 948 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: and three point thirty on ESPN. Texas Tech at Iowa State. 949 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: Iowa State favored by thirteen and a half points. I 950 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: looked at some of these other matchups. UCLA Nebraska isn't 951 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: particularly interesting to me. Okay, Kansas State at Houston, North 952 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: Carolina FSU Arizona, UCF Navy at Rice is interesting to me. Okay, 953 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina at Troy is interesting to me. I kind 954 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: of like Coastal Carolina minus four and a half. I 955 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm watching those games though. I struggled 956 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: truly with a fourth team. To put a fourth game 957 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: to put in this squad. So maybe that fourth game 958 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: is actually Orega Michigan. 959 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, so okay, you are leaving out. So it's 960 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Iowa State, Indiana, Michigan State. Is that one 961 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: of them in Florida or Florida Georgia? Yeah, okay, I 962 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: think those are good quads. I love the Kansas State 963 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Houston opportunity for Houston. Why Kansas State coming off of 964 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 2: a last second letdown win in a rivalry game. Yes, yes, 965 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't think Houston's great. I think defensively they're interesting 966 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 2: and Kansas State obviously has put themselves in position too 967 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 2: maybe potentially sort of win this conference. I love love 968 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 2: that Arizona and UCF were playing against each other. These 969 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: two teams have combined for nine straight losses. Okay, these 970 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 2: two teams are showing themselves to be varied and specific 971 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 2: at the same time, they are world class losers Arizona 972 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 2: and UCF. I have called this one the Cesta Bowl. 973 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: Somebody needs to win Cesta Bowl. Col In, somebody who's 974 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 2: gonna get off what do you say, get off the Schneide. 975 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 2: I think UCF has lost five straight in Arizona four 976 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I flipped that, so I actually like Arizona here 977 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 2: on the road against UCF. 978 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: Bear in mind though UCF now might have a little 979 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 1: extra pop. Give me the sound on defense, No, Ted. 980 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: Ruth, Ted Ruth, I understand, roof is out. I just 981 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 2: enjoy that. Somebody's gonna need to win that game. I 982 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 2: like that. I like North Carolina minus two and a 983 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 2: half against Florida State. I don't know if you should 984 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: be watching this one North Carolina very quietly, very look 985 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: at the resident their schedule. This could be an eight 986 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 2: and fourteen if they have indeed turned a corner post 987 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 2: by week win over Virginia. Okay, they're not catastrophically bad 988 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 2: on defense, they are merely below average. They were catastrophically 989 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 2: bad against James Madison. I grant you. I actually would 990 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 2: watch UCLA Nebraska as my fourth on Big Ten Network? 991 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: Is Yogi calling that game? 992 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: Guy and Guy and Joggy are calling that game? Ok 993 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 2: there is something about uc It's too many points for 994 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 2: me for Nebraska's offense in this spot. I think UCLA's 995 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: offense is okay. Nebraska's offense has shown itself to be 996 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 2: below average this year. I don't know. I think Ucla 997 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: can make that one a little bit weird and interesting, 998 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 2: so that might be my fourth one there. 999 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't really have a pick in that game, but 1000 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: I do have a pick in those three that I 1001 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: mentioned at the top place. I wanted to talk about 1002 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: the Florida Georgia game as part of the big Game 1003 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: segment because it's a rivalry, but spread sixteen and a 1004 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: half points, yeah, it doesn't project as a close game. 1005 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: Georgia has won the last two in this meeting by 1006 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,399 Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty two over the last two years, 1007 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: forty three to twenty, forty two to twenty Yeah, very consistent. 1008 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: So I guess if you use that logic and you 1009 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 1: look at the points, bread Vegas is saying, what Florida, 1010 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: Florida's a bottle, a touchdown closer, something like that this 1011 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: year that they've been, which I think is fair given 1012 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: where Florida's a given where George is at. I do 1013 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: think the Gators are going to give him a better 1014 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: game this year. I don't think they're gonna win, but 1015 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: I do think there's some vulnerability on the Georgia side. 1016 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: I do think Florida is probably better than meets the eye. 1017 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: Thirty four to twenty one. I got Georgia winning but 1018 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: not covering. 1019 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm reading into it too much because I'm with you. 1020 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points here. I like that Florida 1021 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 2: took care business against Kentucky. Obviously Georgia did not. That 1022 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 2: was a long time ago, though. I like that Florida 1023 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: against what might be the best defense in America, maybe 1024 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 2: just in terms of performance and points per drive whatever 1025 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 2: in Tennessee took that game to overtime in which their 1026 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 2: starting quarterback got hurt and DJ Lagway it was very 1027 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 2: close to leading this team to a win against Tennessee. 1028 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 2: I think Florida's competing here. I don't think ultimately Florida 1029 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 2: has enough juice here, but I'm taking the points. Yeah, 1030 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 2: you got the back of Georgia. I think you gotta 1031 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: go points here. I really do. 1032 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: And I like Georgie a lot. I mean, there's not 1033 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: much reason to not like Georgia. They may not be 1034 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: as bulletproof as they've been in the past, they're still 1035 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,720 Speaker 1: a very good team, one of the best in the SEC, 1036 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: if not the country. Florida's gonna play hard. Florida is 1037 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: going to play hard, and I do kind of shudder 1038 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit when I think of a true freshman 1039 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: in DJ Lagway going up against totally this defense. But 1040 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: I also think he's really talented, and I think he 1041 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: has had a chance to kind of grow into the role. 1042 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 2: And Florida has more data to collect on the types 1043 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 2: of plays he likes, the types of throws he feels 1044 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 2: confident in making, the types of throws he shouldn't be 1045 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 2: making the types of plans that they should have on 1046 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 2: third down or in the red zone or in higher 1047 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 2: leverage moments with him. They're collecting internal data, which I 1048 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 2: think is nice. That said, Ty, I think there's a 1049 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 2: fifteen percent chance this game ends fifty five to thirteen 1050 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 2: jos right, it's one hundred percent somewhere on this table, Yeah, somewhere. 1051 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: When you sim this game one hundred times, fifteen of 1052 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: those ends up with Georgia winning this game by forty. 1053 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: But enough of the sims in my mind, my very 1054 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 2: silly brain, end up with I don't know, twenty seven 1055 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 2: to twenty one, thirty three, twenty one, with something like that. 1056 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Georgia here, Georgia to win Florida 1057 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 2: to cover. 1058 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: The Indiana Indiana minu is seven against Mishion State seem 1059 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: to be good vibes that Curtis work is going to 1060 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: be back for this game, which is obviously a very 1061 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 1: very big deal. 1062 00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1063 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: In order to this, Michigan State needs to score thirty points. 1064 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 2: Thirty points, yeah, something like that, and Michigan State needs 1065 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: to finish drives. 1066 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they can do that. And the fact 1067 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 1: that they're super mistake prone. They're minus seven and turnover 1068 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: ratio Indiana, by the way, plus eight, which is part 1069 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: of the story for Indiana this year. I could see 1070 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: there being some potential weirdness in this game because this 1071 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: is really Michigan State's last bulletin board game that they're 1072 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: going to have circled. I'm just not sure it's going 1073 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: to stay weird for sixty minutes. I don't think Michigan 1074 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: State's got the horses right now, and it's it feels 1075 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: very weird to say this about Indiana, but I you 1076 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: and I have watched enough Indiana at this point to 1077 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: say that they are legit. This is not smoking mirrors. 1078 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: They're very good. Thirty eight to twenty four. I've got 1079 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: Indiana minus minus the number. 1080 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have we're what a week two weeks 1081 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: looking in the rear very mirror of Michigan State beating 1082 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 2: Iowa by twelve at home. Correct, you can't fully say 1083 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 2: that they're a different team at home because they lost 1084 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 2: by thirty one to Ohio State. If you like Michigan State, 1085 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,479 Speaker 2: you have to in concert say they're better at home. 1086 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 2: This is what afternoon game. 1087 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: Three thirty pm Eastern. 1088 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, on Peacock, they're better at home. And Indiana I 1089 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 2: don't think has played. They haven't finished with a one 1090 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 2: touchdown win or won a single digit win. Right, all 1091 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: of their wins have been by double digits. If Curtis 1092 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 2: ark is the starter, Indiana wins by double digits. Give 1093 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 2: the points. If Tavin Jackson is the starter, I'm gonna 1094 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: take the points. Okay, fair, that's fair, that's all. 1095 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: And then the other one, Texas Tech against I always State, 1096 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: I always State favorite by about thirteen and a half, 1097 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: fourteen points. I'm gonna go points here. I think the 1098 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: Clones win. I think it's like forty two to thirty. Okay, 1099 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of points. It just spooks 1100 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: me out that UCF created so many big plays. A 1101 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago against Iowa. 1102 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 2: State, and that's not how Texas Tech has built though, 1103 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 2: I know. 1104 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: But I think they can score. I think they could 1105 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,959 Speaker 1: score in Iowa State. I don't think they can stop 1106 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: Iowa State, but I think they can score. And after 1107 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: again to that UCF game really spooked me out that 1108 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: that really threw me for a loop because I've been 1109 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: high at Iowa State this whole time. Yeah, and watching 1110 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: that game, I had it up on the iPad as 1111 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: we were recording. 1112 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 2: It was like, what is going on here? 1113 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: Guys? Stop them? You're supposed to have a defense. Yes, 1114 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: that's why I'm taking points here. 1115 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 2: I think I'm taking points here too, and I think 1116 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 2: it's mostly because I think there's a back toward cover 1117 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 2: involved in this one. I think it's a comfortable Iowa 1118 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: State win. But Iowa State has not been a good 1119 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 2: running team this year, so I'm not sure that I 1120 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 2: trust Iowa State with a lead in a spot like this. 1121 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit of so I haven't played that 1122 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: sound ahole lot this year. 1123 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 2: I hate the Texas Tech defense, by the way, So 1124 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of points in 1125 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 2: this game. I think you're right to sort of go 1126 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 2: along that path. So I have it as like thirty 1127 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 2: eight to twenty seven somewhere in there. One other game. 1128 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: Am kind of in this window, not kind if it 1129 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: is in this window. 1130 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: Yes, in this window. 1131 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,280 Speaker 1: Navy minus ten and a half against Rice. 1132 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 2: On the road. 1133 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, this line's come down from twelve. 1134 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 2: Rece just fired its coach. They did. The only caveat 1135 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 2: here stopping. 1136 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: Me from really going in on Navy hard is that 1137 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: Rice has a decent enough defense and they've gotten better 1138 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: now for three straight weeks coming out of their buy. 1139 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: They can't score, that's their problem, but defensively they've been 1140 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: all right. So I am giving a heavy glance at 1141 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: Navy minus ten and a half right now as one 1142 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: of my money bets. 1143 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: What's the status of Blake Horvath and his beat up 1144 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: thumb and hand? 1145 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: Unclear to me, Yeah, unclear to me, But I'm given 1146 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: a hearty glance at that one because Navy needs to win. 1147 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: Navy needs to hold Serve. Naybe is on a collision 1148 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: course now with first two lane, and if they make 1149 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: it past two lane Army for potentially that AAC championship game. 1150 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Navy's gonna blow them out. I don't know, 1151 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 2: I think it's just a bad time to play Navy 1152 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 2: for Rice after firing a coach. Maybe you think there's 1153 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 2: a spark with an interim. 1154 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't. 1155 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: Navy covers these lines, Tye. They cover if you're a 1156 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 2: flawed team, if your offense can't stay on the field, 1157 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, your defense, albeit a decent defense, 1158 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: has wobbly legs from playing forty eight minutes. I don't know. 1159 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm giving those points pretty happily. 1160 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to the night block. If we can't, welcome 1161 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: to the pain zones. Where we live is mean zone. 1162 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: There are some interesting games here in the nightcap. Yes, 1163 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: seven thirty ESPN Louisville at Clemson, Clemson minus ten and 1164 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: a half, seven forty five, Big Ten Network, USC at 1165 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: Washington eight pm ESPN two TCU at Baylor, and then 1166 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,439 Speaker 1: I also included this one. You could include Wisconsin, Iowa 1167 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: if you want, Arizona State, Oklahoma State could be fun. 1168 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: Kentucky against Tennessee might have some points of intrigue. By 1169 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 1: the way, Mark Stops's buyout is forty five million, not 1170 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: four million dollars. I wouldn't be at the wrong mind surprising. Yeah, 1171 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: got a bunch of folks who wrote in about that. 1172 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate the heads up. I pulled out 1173 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: Georgia Southern against South Alabama. Oh okay, this is a 1174 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: meaningful matchup between two three and one teams in the 1175 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: Sun Belt. South Alabama is favored by six points in 1176 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: this game. They are better on offense, they are better 1177 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: on defense. They just hammered Lois Louisiana Monroe, and they 1178 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: are my second lock of the week. 1179 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 2: Oh block of the week. 1180 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: Going a little bit off the radar with some of 1181 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: these locks this week. I like South Alabama a lot 1182 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: in this spot. 1183 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I as well like South Alabama. I like Baylor 1184 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 2: against TCU. I think their ability on offense and TCU's 1185 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 2: inability on defense to get off the field. I think 1186 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 2: you could see a lot of long, extended drives in 1187 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 2: the TCU defense wearing down and TCU even with a lead, 1188 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 2: they have not been a good running team this year. 1189 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 2: It's another team that I just don't trust to keep 1190 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 2: a lead. It was a nice TCU was the team 1191 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 2: that gave away the UCF game. I believe they were up, 1192 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 2: so I just I don't know. I don't trust TCU 1193 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 2: with the lead at all, even with a nice one 1194 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 2: last week against I believe Texas Tech. So I'm going 1195 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Baylor here to keep the offense going with Jake Spavitol. 1196 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 2: My lock of the week right now is Iowa minus 1197 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 2: three and a half in that Heartland game. Block of 1198 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: the week. 1199 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: Why are you in on Iowa? 1200 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 2: A bit of a letdown spot for Wisconsin losing that 1201 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: game at home to Penn State. I will beat up 1202 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: on Northwestern. They're looking good forty to fourteen. There is 1203 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: something about Iowa and I just I'm not a Wisconsin 1204 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 2: I think you have to have a quarterback to beat 1205 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Iowa on some level, and I just don't think Wisconsin does. So, 1206 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 2: even though this game is going to be bruising, I 1207 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 2: have Iowa twenty three fourteen. 1208 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: I believe it's now a Brendan Sullivan Iowa as well. 1209 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 2: And it's now a Brendan Sullivan Iowa who again little 1210 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 2: more than Kate McNamara it seemed last week I have. 1211 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm taking the points with Washington. They're better at home. 1212 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,919 Speaker 2: USC has been on a tour of losses away from home. 1213 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: They're going to lose in something like seven different states 1214 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 2: this year. I'm going to go with USC away from home, 1215 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 2: finding a way to lose twenty eight twenty seven. I'm 1216 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 2: on sc Come on, really, you're in fairness. Should they 1217 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,959 Speaker 2: not be able to run the ball in this game? 1218 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 2: They should? But do you trust Lincoln Riley to call 1219 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 2: running plays when they're working? Absolutely no, if I do, 1220 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 2: absolutely not no. I mean I jotted down they should 1221 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: be able to run? 1222 01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Right? Will they run? 1223 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Mark right? There's just something like if you can find 1224 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 2: a way to lose twenty eight twenty seven, Lincoln Riley 1225 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 2: has been in like the stacks of the USC library 1226 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 2: researching how to lose games twenty eight twenty seven. And look, 1227 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 2: Washington loses dumb ways too. But I don't know. I 1228 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 2: think there's something about Washington with their own ability to run. 1229 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: And I just look at the very least somebody is winning. 1230 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Somebody's winning this game twenty eight twenty seven. And I'm 1231 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 2: gonna take the points. I'm going sc all right, I 1232 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 2: have fun, I'm have fun. We'll see, we'll see. 1233 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm on SC here, I'm on Clemson minus the number 1234 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: against Louisville. 1235 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh I am not. 1236 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fall back on something you said a few 1237 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Okay, And I don't remember if it was 1238 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: publicly on a show or if it was privately when 1239 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: we were just sort of discussing things, But you said 1240 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck's a medium game quarterback. 1241 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: He is a medium game quarterback. 1242 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a big game quarterback. He's a medium 1243 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 1: game quarterback. And he's having a good year. More importantly, 1244 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: he's healthy for the first time and maybe forever. I 1245 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: just don't see Clemson having trouble here coming out of 1246 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: a bye week. I think Clemson's a real deal. I 1247 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: really I have a lot of belief in Clemson right now. 1248 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Now that being said, the schedule in November is more 1249 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: of a firmer test that we've seen recently for Clemson. 1250 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh yes, the schedule gets tougher, and this is kind 1251 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: of the initial wave of that. I think Louisville is 1252 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 1: a four or five lost team. I just think that's 1253 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: who they are right now. I'm not totally sold in 1254 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: this team being able to go into Clemson and knockoff 1255 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: the Tigers. Ten and a half is a bigger number, 1256 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: but I'm give me the Tigers here. 1257 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 2: Louisville strikes me as a team that beats Okay teams 1258 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 2: by single digits and loses to good teams by single digits. 1259 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Right, they play up to and down to all of 1260 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: their competition. 1261 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 2: I think that's what we have on hand here. I 1262 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 2: think Louisville is just good enough to lose this game 1263 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 2: thirty eight to twenty eight, thirty seven, thirty something like that. 1264 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 2: Like they're just they're able to compete. They scored, you know, 1265 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 2: forty five points against Miami. I believe they lose to 1266 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 2: Notre Dame by seven. They lose to SMU by six 1267 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 2: or seven. They're a competitive team that just doesn't have 1268 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 2: that extra po And thus we have Clemson winning by 1269 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 2: seven to eleven points. 1270 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: I've also got ASU minus three on the road at 1271 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. 1272 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 2: You have ASU winning this game. I do, Yeah, I 1273 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 2: have ASU winning this game as well. I think Sam 1274 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 2: Levitt is playing coming off of a bye. Now that 1275 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 2: I've got all my BIE weeks all mixed up, I 1276 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 2: believe it is. And so yeah, I Oklahoma State. As 1277 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 2: much as I enjoyed the fight in that game against BYU, 1278 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 2: I just don't trust this offense at all week to week. 1279 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 2: So I'm going with ASU to have some fun on 1280 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 2: the road. 1281 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: If you are in the market this week for live 1282 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: college football games and podcasts in pristine audio form. This 1283 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: is your reminder to download the Varsity Network app DAN. 1284 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 1: I was at a birthday party last week. I had 1285 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the Varsity Network app BLARN on the old AirPod the 1286 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,439 Speaker 1: whole time was there. 1287 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 2: I was driving home from a soccer game when I 1288 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 2: found out in Nebraska had taken the lead against Ohio State. 1289 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 2: There I was with the Varsity app. 1290 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: Varsity app YEP had it going in the ear. It 1291 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: is an essential if you are a college football fan 1292 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: and it's free. Just go to the Apple App Store, 1293 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Google Play Store search for your school. You get all 1294 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: the content you want to listen to our podcast or 1295 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of other good ones on there as well. 1296 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: Whatever team you're into you name it, and also listen 1297 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: to the College Footplets, which runs pretty much all throughout 1298 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the day from twelve to twelve on Saturdays. They do 1299 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: a good job keeping you up to date with all 1300 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: things going on in the world college football. 1301 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I do have Tennessee. I'm going to 1302 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 2: give the points Tennessee. Oh, Kentucky. Yeah, I don't know 1303 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 2: where Kentucky's at right now. I think I think that 1304 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 2: one this might be a get right moment for Tennessee, 1305 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 2: especially on the ground against Kentucky after last week's performance 1306 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 2: from jarq Wes Hunter. I like Tennessee on the ground 1307 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 2: to like this just feels like a crock potting opportunity 1308 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 2: to win a game thirty five to thirteen. 1309 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: That does it for skin tie eight Saturday, Dan Rubinstein again, 1310 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 1: if you thank you, catwoman. 1311 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 2: If you will be in an arber. 1312 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Please let us know. Yeah, ummm, we will do our 1313 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 1: part to try and meet up before the game. 1314 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 2: I want to get a couple dozen donuts, see if 1315 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 2: we can find people we like, give out some everybody 1316 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 2: likes donuts right on a college. 1317 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 1: We put a QR code on the donuts so people 1318 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: could find the podcast. Is that a thing that happens. 1319 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 2: I think somebody probably can make a QR and idible 1320 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 2: in QR icing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's that's doable. 1321 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if we have time to figure that 1322 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 2: out now. No, definitely not my priority. I don't know what. 1323 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 2: I'd like to get to Zingerman's. I'd like to get 1324 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 2: to Aggy's. I'd like to get to it. There's a 1325 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: pizza spot that I've heard is good called Freddy's in 1326 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: like the more of like the metro Detroit area. But 1327 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 2: that's that's my plan as of now. But I'll take 1328 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 2: any and any any recommendations from people, and we'll be 1329 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 2: doing a cheese exchange at some point. You can't be 1330 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 2: doing it publicly. 1331 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,080 Speaker 1: That's not something we can do in public. But no're 1332 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: gonna give you some grand Da. I'm gonna give you 1333 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: some Cooper sharp white American. 1334 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a very Midwestern, big ten thing of us 1335 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 2: to do. Len, I'm a big ten alump to in 1336 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 2: cheese exchange in ann Arbor. 1337 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, don't forget to go to play rundboard 1338 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: dot com to get in on our Pickham game. Hopefully 1339 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 1: we shared some insight with you that you could use 1340 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: to pick those games correctly. You'll be playing for that 1341 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars Bombus gift card. Tune in on Saturday night. 1342 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 1: We will have some form of a show for you. 1343 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: It will be different because of circumstances for us, but 1344 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: don't apologize. 1345 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: It'll be great, just like it's great when you can 1346 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 2: drop that big, stinky, slithering slinky drummin five Did you 1347 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 2: say slinky by the way. Yeah. Yeah, isn't that like 1348 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: a sexy term. We're like a little slinky dress. I guess, 1349 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 2: all right, sure, why not? I'm looking, okay, I'm Google 1350 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 2: image searching slinky dress. 1351 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, ty, it is a slinky skin tight Saturday in 1352 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: the pet League, Dan twelve thirty four and three, le 1353 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: High on the road in the Hornet's Nest the Multi 1354 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Sport Field, squaring off against Georgetown at five and three. 1355 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: This is the premier matchup this week in the Pitt League. Dan, 1356 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Mounta Hawks. I have married into a 1357 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: Lehigh family. I'm gonna go Mountain Hawks on the road 1358 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: into the Hornet's Nest. That is multi sports field, getting 1359 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 1: the w. 1360 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 2: Sending the hoy is down. Yeah, that's a lot of 1361 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 2: people have said that before. A lot of people have 1362 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 2: been sorry, gimme Georgetown at home in Multi sport Field, Hornet's. 1363 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 1: Nest one PM the Lafayette Leopards four and four on 1364 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: the road at Bucknell Bucknell three and five, Dan, I'm. 1365 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Gonna laughy at Big forty four to fourteen. 1366 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm going Nelly's here. 1367 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 2: Oh, how dumb. 1368 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I need to make it up to 1369 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 1: the fine people of Williamsport, Pennsylvania. Okay, I do, I 1370 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: do not in Williamsport, They're thereabouts close enough. Last, but 1371 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: not least Colgate, the Gators tipping the scales at two 1372 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 1: and six squaring off against forda. 1373 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 2: Met oh and eight. 1374 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 1: Dan. Not a good year for the Hammies. 1375 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 2: No, put a nice night in the Bronx for the Yankees. 1376 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 2: As we record this on Wednesday night, Dodger's only up 1377 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,799 Speaker 2: three to one in the World Series. A time of recording, 1378 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens by the time people listen to 1379 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 2: this after Game five. Yeah, I did see that New 1380 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 2: York teams set a record for the number of daily losses. Right, 1381 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 2: it was like the Rangers, the Knicks, the Yankees. There 1382 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 2: was like the it was like seven different New York 1383 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 2: based teams. And I'm not going against that. I'm going 1384 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 2: Colgate here in the Bronx to keep that going. Let's 1385 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 2: go Gats, why not? Yeah, Let's go Gators. 1386 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you one, Thank you all for downloading, for listening, 1387 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,559 Speaker 1: for supporting me. Sure you tell your friends about the show. 1388 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 1: It helps us grow the footprint of the verbowlerhood. Get 1389 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: in on the game at play, run the board dot com. 1390 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 1: And of course, if you made it this far, why 1391 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 1: not hit follow or subscribe. Let's consummate this podcast relationship. 1392 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,719 Speaker 1: Uh oh, let's skin tied Saturday, of course. 1393 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1394 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you hit follow, hit subscribes that you 1395 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 1: don't miss any of our episodes. If you are out 1396 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: on the town, either tonight as you're hearing this on 1397 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: a Thursday or this weekend, be it on a college 1398 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 1: campus or at a party with friends, or just going 1399 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: out to the party at the bar wherever, be safe. 1400 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Send in pictures of your costume. 1401 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 1: We'd love to. I love a good costume picture. 1402 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Oh I do like that spicy request. Okay, it's not 1403 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 2: a spice Send those spicy costume shots to Tie hilden Brand. 1404 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, our audience is like ninety five percent male. 1405 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,640 Speaker 2: Dan, I didn't say females. 1406 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, if you're a if you're a dude wearing some 1407 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 1: nice spiciness. I just appreciate creativity. That is where this 1408 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 1: is coming from. 1409 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 2: You don't dislike spiciness, is what I'm hearing, though. Nobody 1410 01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 2: dislikes spiciness. Okay, there you go. 1411 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm in it for the creative spirit of 1412 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: this request. Yeah, so you can text that an eight. 1413 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 2: Five five verbal three as well, or it's oliverble at 1414 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 2: gmail dot text those spicy costumes. 1415 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Do not text the spicy. Don't listen to Tie. You 1416 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 1: want to see now you're talking them. 1417 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 2: Up, don't it. Don't hear Tie, listen to him or 1418 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 2: don't listen to him. Hear him. 1419 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 1: You're the ones saying skin tied Saturday, not me. 1420 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 2: You're too kind. Yeah. On that note, for that guy 1421 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 2: over there. 1422 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: In the heart of the Midwest, Dan Rubinstein, who I 1423 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 1: will see in just a few short hours, For myself, 1424 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Tie hilder Brand, still in eastern PA. We will talk 1425 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: to you all on Saturday. In the meantimes, Peace