1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Christopher Dunn engineer with decades of experience. He was recruited 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: by an American aerospace company back in nineteen sixty nine 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: and began as a skilled machinist and tool maker, and 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: has worked at almost every level of high tech manufacturing, 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: from building to operating high powered industrial lasers, including the 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: position of project engineer and a laser operations manager. His 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: pyramid odyssey began in nineteen seventy seven when he read 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: Peter tompkins book Secrets of the Great Pyramid. His immediate 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: reaction to the Giza Pyramid schematics was that this edifice 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: was a gigantic machine. Discovering the purpose of this machine 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: involved the process of reverse engineering that has taken more 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: than twenty four years of research. His latest book is 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: called Giza The Tesla Connection. Christopher, welcome back. It's been 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: a while, well it has. 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: Thank you very much George for inviting me. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: And I've got to tell you, every time I talk 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: about the pyramids, your name comes up from the guests 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: that you are highly respected, and they all talk about you. 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: Well, that's very nice of them. I definitely appreciate that 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: the subject of the Pyramids and Egypt has always been 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: a huge fascination around the world, and the subject of 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: loss technologies or civilizations lots of civilizations who were more 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: advanced and had much better tools than what we find 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: in the archaeological record, has increased in an interest many 27 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 3: people throughout the world. 28 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Back in nineteen ninety eight, Christopher You came out with 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: an incredible book called The Geezer power Plant, where your 30 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: theory was that the Pyramids were literally power plants. Tell 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: us a little bit more about. 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: That, Yes, that the Geeza power plant had I started 33 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: studying the Pyramids in nineteen seventy seven and Peter Tompkins 34 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: book he asked the huge question. He asked the question 35 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: was there a lot of science in any ancient Egypt 36 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 3: and something that we have not been able to figure out? 37 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: And his entire book, Secrets of the Great Pyramid was 38 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: focused on actually expanding on that question and introducing different 39 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: researchers over the centuries who have actually asked the same questions. 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: So throughout the throughout his book, you learn, you learn 41 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: about different researchers who proposed different purposes for the Great Pyramid, 42 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: such as the question was it a geodetic marker because 43 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: of its prominence and its size. Was it used to 44 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: actually lay out the land? The other one was was 45 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: it a granary? And I know one was was it 46 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: was it used to as an observatory because of the 47 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: the shape and angle of one of the galleries of 48 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: the Grande Gallery on the inside of the Great Pyramid. 49 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: And then other other speculations about whether the dimensions of 50 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: the Great Pyramid had some significance, which as we find out, 51 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: they do from a scientific technical perspective. But there was 52 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: one group who are actually studying it and applying dates 53 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: given in the Bible for certain activities to measurements within 54 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: the Great Pyramids. There's a group that they call themselves Pyramidologists. Yes, 55 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: the and it was, so it has been long along 56 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: a subject of speculation and wonder about what it may 57 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: have originally so to do the one of the things 58 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: that is prominent is the question that whether it was 59 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: actually used as a tomb, and and that even though 60 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: that is the official story that we that we learned 61 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: when we're in school, and the one that holds forth. 62 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: Today in academia, the the true theory is becoming has 63 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: become less and less prominent or less and less popular. 64 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: Has more information about the Great Pyramid. 65 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: Is revealed A lot of space for a tool, wasn't it. 66 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: Well, it's I mean the if you look at the 67 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: schematic of the cross section of the the Great Pyramid, 68 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: and there is a a an image on on Coast 69 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: Coast website that shows the schematic, I call it the 70 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: schematic of a solid state power plant. But you can 71 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: see that it really does not resemble any any building 72 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: that would involve constant human activity, or even a tomb 73 00:05:53,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: because of the shape of the shafts and the passageways. 74 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: It just really doesn't fit in with the concept of 75 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: it being a tomb. 76 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: Christopher, when the book The Geezer power Plant came out 77 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, how was it received in terms 78 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: of your theories? 79 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know people generally, I was quite 80 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: pleased and surprised that it was received positively by a 81 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: lot of engineering types and technical type. Obviously it was 82 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: ignored by the established Egyptologists and so he wasn't received 83 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: at all by them. But for the most part, I 84 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: thought it was fairly fairly well received, much better than 85 00:06:54,839 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: I expected. So I felt, you know, quite pleased with it. 86 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: But you know, I mean not a lot of thanks 87 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: to its reception goes to people like you and other 88 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: hosts who have taken an interest in and discussed it 89 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: on their media outlets, which has kept it alive and 90 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: surprisingly now as published in ninety eight, and here we 91 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: are twenty six years later, and it's still cooking. Is 92 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: still it's still out there, and the publisher is supporting it, 93 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: and you know, new printings are done and so that 94 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: is that is quite quite remarkable really for a you know, well, 95 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: well people might consider to be a fringd. But but 96 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: the and so, you know, I mean, it's it's doing 97 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: extremely well. But the you know, the the interest in 98 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: it and also in the Great Pyramid and the information 99 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: that has been revealed since the publication of the Visa 100 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: power Plant. He brought me to the realization that I 101 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: really needed to write a sequel to it, because there 102 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: was some quite remarkable activities that were going on in 103 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: the day around the late two thousand tens, They're like 104 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 3: two thousand and fifteen through eighteen and nineteen. There was 105 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: some remarkable activities that were revealing more information about the 106 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: Great Pyramid. 107 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: Well, you call the new book Giza the Tesla Connection. 108 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: Tell me about the Tesla connections. 109 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean the I call it the Tesla connection 110 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: because when I when I wrote the Geezer power Plant, 111 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: the the the concept that I had as far as 112 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: the the energy generation was kind of limited to the 113 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: King's chamber and the granitey in the King's chamber and 114 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: so and I was looking at the chefs that were 115 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: leading to him from oh, to him from the King's chamber, 116 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: which is a you know, a central chamber in the 117 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: in the pyramid, that that's where the energy was generated 118 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: and it and it was directed through the southern cheft 119 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: to the to the outside. The the introduction of new 120 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: information from doctor Friedeman Freud, who is a a Nassas physicist. 121 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: He was doing research into earthquake lights with the objective 122 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: of seeing if it would be possible to predict when 123 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: an earthquake was going to take place, because usually when 124 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: the before an earthquake took place. He was noting that 125 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: the the there was the creation of earthquake lights in 126 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: the high places around where the earthquake that the the 127 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: ground zero for the for the earthquake. 128 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: Was he pretty accurate? 129 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean the there was one place in Italy 130 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: I think it's it was going to kill it the 131 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: the earthquake. There were earthquake lights in the hills around 132 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: the town and the ten days ahead of the earthquake. 133 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: So it's if you would say that, okay, the earthquake, 134 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: the earthquake lights appeared directly or you know, maybe up 135 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: to ten days before the earthquake happened, and then they 136 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: continued through the events and then kind of settled down afterwards. 137 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: But the but the interesting thing about about his approach 138 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: to it though, was first of all, I mean the 139 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: he was using NASA satellites to observe the topography of 140 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: the earth, and and so he was noting the lights 141 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: around that were lighting up and then and then monitoring 142 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: the seismic activity in the area. It's it. It resulted 143 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: in a huge earthquake that where there was over three 144 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: hundred people. Three hundred people who lost their lives, and 145 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: there was quite a quite a lot of consternation about 146 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: why there was a sufficient warning to the population before 147 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: the earthquake that took place. So anyway, so what he 148 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: did though he wanted he wanted to find out what 149 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: the source or what the physics was behind it and 150 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: why these lights were. What was happening in the in 151 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: the Earth? 152 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: Were these like plasma lights, Christopher, sorry, they like plasma lights? 153 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean they were. They were like you know 154 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: the martyr lights. You have these, but black ball lighting 155 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: and any kind of terrestrial light show that you see 156 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: is caused by some activity where electrons are released within 157 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: the Earth and flow to the surface. So what he 158 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: found through laboratory experiment is that when you put igneous 159 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: rock on the stress the there is are what he 160 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: calls dormant electronic chart carries, and when you stress those, 161 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: the rocks turn into a battery and then these positive 162 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: holes will shoot to the surface and they shoot they 163 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: go to the generally the highest place on the on 164 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: the Earth's surface. 165 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: How do they get through. 166 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: They just travel through the up Okay, yeah, they travel 167 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: through the up and the and so that kind of 168 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: coupled with the energetic activity around the Pyramids, which has 169 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: been talked about for a long time that there is 170 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: a certain energetic or electrical kind of phenomena around the 171 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: Great Pyramids. 172 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: And Tesla believed that there was energy in the atmosphere 173 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: that he would tap into. 174 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: Right, yes, I mean Tesla. Why I included Tesla was 175 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: because there were two technologies that he was working on. 176 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: He had actually completed one or succeeded in one, and 177 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: that was the earthquake machine. And then the other one 178 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: was his Wardenclick Tower, which was never brought to the completion. 179 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: But the Warden Click Tower was proposed to be able 180 00:14:51,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: to broadcast electricity wirelessly so that you could actually receive 181 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: it without having without having to have a have a 182 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: wire or you know, put it on a meter or 183 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: anything like that. He envisioned free, free power for it 184 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: for everybody. So the the interesting thing about the Wallen 185 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: Cliffs towers, it has kind of like a dome which 186 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: radiated the radiated the electrons out. So in the visa 187 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: the Tesla connection I had, I proposed that perhaps you know, 188 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: with with the the the ignish rock beneath the Gezer 189 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: plateau being stimulated to release those u dormant electronic charge 190 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: carriers and and have them shoot up to the surface, 191 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: they would actually be attracted to the pyramids and move 192 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: through them and into the atmosphere, and so then they 193 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: would be collected in a kind of a dome a 194 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: cage around the Great Pyramid, and radiate out like a capacitor. Well, 195 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: it'suld be more like a more like a broadcaster, right, 196 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: so you have you have the electrons moving through the 197 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: frame and then radiating out into the atmosphere, so they 198 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily be held, but they would actually be broadcast. 199 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: Now, how did they use this kind of energy? 200 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's always the big question, George, I mean, 201 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: you know, and they I would say that they could 202 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: use it for whatever they wanted to. You know, they 203 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: had the ability to build the Great the Great Pyramid. 204 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: I mean that pretty much they could do whatever they want. 205 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: They and I had a architect, uh he said that 206 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: you know, those those uh, the great Elders of the 207 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: Great Pyramids, they can build whatever they want, to do 208 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: whatever they want, because you know, the intelligence, the physics, 209 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: the science was encoded in the Great Pyramid is so 210 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: sophisticated that the you have to ask the question, what 211 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: else was available to them? You know, we're just we're 212 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: just left with the skeleton of a civilization. But what 213 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: else did they have? 214 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Listen to more coast to coast, A m every weeknight 215 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: at one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to 216 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: coastam dot com for more