Speaker 1: Celebrity Gobble Gobble club Kids. It's Thanksgiving, which means we're
Speaker 1: taking the week off, but we thought we'd dip back
Speaker 1: into the archives for a really thematically important episode.
Speaker 2: We found one of the most famous Massachusetts Pilgrim settlers.
Speaker 1: Because Thanksgiving was a time when Pocahontas and John Smith said,
Speaker 1: let's just spend the night in make the Charlotte Posta.
Speaker 2: And if Pocahontas was Ilaria Baldwin and John Smith was
Speaker 2: out of Baldwin, then we would be in business anyway.
Speaker 2: Please enjoy Ilaria Baldwin, Mama of seven, and maybe you're
Speaker 2: around the turkey right now with seven of your.
Speaker 1: Rascals, because Thanksgiving is ultimately about togetherness and family, and
Speaker 1: no one loves to be with her family Familia Vamilia
Speaker 1: than Hilaria Baldwin. So please enjoy this episode from the
Speaker 1: vault as you break.
Speaker 2: Bread and maybe get inspired for healthy sides for Thanksgiving. Okay,
Speaker 2: don't be pressured to have you know, Grandma's buttered yams.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more grand nieces.
Speaker 1: Queen Wa Kale, shout out to all my grandnieces. Happy Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: What's up? Club kids?
Speaker 2: Stephen and I right now are both in chair pose.
Speaker 1: Arms up. You have to arms the sky, which.
Speaker 2: Means we're not sitting on a chair. We're pretending we're
Speaker 2: sitting on a chair and we're engaging our course straight up.
Speaker 1: Well, oh my god, it's so painful.
Speaker 2: Ten seconds engage your bread.
Speaker 1: Yes, I won.
Speaker 2: I could have go on for longer, but again, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: with a mysterious sinus infection.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is horrifying. Who's that knocking at
Speaker 1: the door. It's all your friends, you filthy whrr Your
Speaker 1: husband's gone and we've got books and a bottle of
Speaker 1: wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's memoir. It's Martini.
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Speaker 1: book club.
Speaker 2: Buzz me in. I brought the queer.
Speaker 1: Voe ohmga go.
Speaker 2: Bien k pasa.
Speaker 1: Movie biano theme mon amiga.
Speaker 2: I'm grieving Tapa right now.
Speaker 1: I'm also craving I love the octopus of my of
Speaker 1: the country. Vacation and as a child Spain, it is
Speaker 1: so important to me.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I had for lunch?
Speaker 1: Let me guess, cilantro.
Speaker 2: E nice cucumber?
Speaker 1: Oh, cucumber, cukarma cucumber.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did bread. Wow, but it was it was
Speaker 2: a farmer's rye.
Speaker 1: Oh, well then it is a fiddle with that.
Speaker 2: Of sliced, chunky, heavenly summer tomatoes.
Speaker 1: And tomatoes no, but they were looking red.
Speaker 2: Okay, and como cities say cucumber.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so healthy. I had. I had a sandwich.
Speaker 1: We'll get into die in a second, but perhaps we
Speaker 1: can just jump right into this episode.
Speaker 2: Right and it's too exciting, and it's too urgent.
Speaker 1: Nothing has ever been more urgent.
Speaker 2: We read and uh an amazing.
Speaker 1: And immersed ourselves in one of the most important spiritual
Speaker 1: teachers of our generation.
Speaker 2: You all know her, maybe as al Baldin's wife.
Speaker 1: Some of you know her as Lily marn It's former,
Speaker 1: some of you know her as the Rachel Dolazol, but
Speaker 1: Spanish version say.
Speaker 2: It with me. Today we read a book by.
Speaker 1: Elaria Balden, also known as Hilaria Baldwin, and her book
Speaker 1: The Living Clearly Method, five principles for a fit body,
Speaker 1: healthy mind, and joy joyful life. So she of course
Speaker 1: is the yoga wife of Alec Baldwin. I think she
Speaker 1: just popped out her seventh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think seven.
Speaker 1: Her thing is just constantly being pregnant with Alec Balban's children.
Speaker 1: He's always like sixty five and just like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I had another one.
Speaker 2: And then she's always having like twins again, and then
Speaker 2: it's another like a single one and then a twin.
Speaker 1: She is fertile as fat.
Speaker 2: She is famously known for fully changing her accent to
Speaker 2: having a Spanish accent sometime.
Speaker 1: Let's get into that right off the bat, before we
Speaker 1: even get into the other. So, you know, so she's
Speaker 1: from Massachusetts. She's basically me slash u because her parents
Speaker 1: are doctors. Her dad worked at MGH. Her mom like
Speaker 1: also worked at Harvard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her marbors at Harvard. They would vacation in Spain.
Speaker 2: But also, as we learned this book, had family land
Speaker 2: in Vermont, the Latin land of Vermont.
Speaker 1: And specifically in Majorca, which is like just as far
Speaker 1: as Spain goes, like, that's pretty kind of as fancy
Speaker 1: as it gets over there.
Speaker 2: Let's also just start with it. She was, and this
Speaker 2: is my favorite phrase, a senior when I was a
Speaker 2: freshman at favorite school of Buston. She was a senior
Speaker 2: when I was a freshman.
Speaker 1: And that was about the time that she, as she
Speaker 1: discusses in this book, her any disorder was going off,
Speaker 1: but also so was her love of flamenco.
Speaker 2: Which here we go. So, as I knew her when
Speaker 2: she was a senior and I was a freshman, her
Speaker 2: name was not Ilaria. It was going to go ahead
Speaker 2: and be Hillary.
Speaker 1: That is so crazy because Loca, that is Loka Chica.
Speaker 1: Her name is Hillary. But it was Hillary Thomas, like
Speaker 1: Hillary Lynn Thomas. Yeah, just the most daughter of a
Speaker 1: Harvard medical professor.
Speaker 2: And also Harvard Medical US.
Speaker 1: He can't be Spanish, Oh absolutely not. You can be
Speaker 1: Spanish as fuck over there in Cambridge. But they named
Speaker 1: her Hillary like her parents low key were like you,
Speaker 1: our white ass daughter is going to be named Hillary.
Speaker 2: I'm sure if you go to her birth records at
Speaker 2: you know, Brigham or Beth Israel, it's gonna go ahead
Speaker 2: and be Hillary.
Speaker 1: She was literally going by Hillary when she was a
Speaker 1: senior refreshman.
Speaker 2: Fully Hillary. But now, in defense of her Spanish heritage,
Speaker 2: is that like in high school every time? So we
Speaker 2: have these epic assemblies. I don't know if anyone for
Speaker 2: lates out there where we had assembly coordinators which were
Speaker 2: basically kind of the Jimmy Fallons or the David Letterman's
Speaker 2: of Assembly, and you know a lot of times maybe
Speaker 2: there'd be a special program, and it felt like almost
Speaker 2: every other assembly was literally Ilaria coming, then Hillary coming
Speaker 2: with her Flamenco partner and doing Flamenco dance for the
Speaker 2: school at assembly.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she was committed to the Spanish drag at
Speaker 1: that point quite yes, like.
Speaker 2: Yes, she was going by Hillary, But I was like
Speaker 2: everyone just kind of knew her as like the Flamenco
Speaker 2: dance girl, and she had like very like wet curls,
Speaker 2: would wear full do the Flamenco outfit. Had her partner,
Speaker 2: who I feel like was a random older guy, was
Speaker 2: very dancing with the stars. And then it would be like.
Speaker 1: So she was bringing in like her outside dance with
Speaker 1: the Stars partner to class. She was not a school person.
Speaker 2: And then it'd be like, okay, let's settle in for
Speaker 2: another one of like Hillary's Flamenco performances. And it was
Speaker 2: being so like literally flamenco. So I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 2: are Spanish.
Speaker 1: Questions and she and she was slaying. She was an
Speaker 1: amazing in a tear dress with castanettes and.
Speaker 2: Show yes castanettes. Like it felt very like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is a custom dress made at a Newton dance recital
Speaker 2: Clovier studio. And the guy would wear like such a
Speaker 2: like early two thousands, like shiny black express buttoned down
Speaker 2: like snatched waists like big dancers slacks, and they would
Speaker 2: just be snapping, snapping away.
Speaker 1: Clacking away, and it's like eight thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: and you're being just like where's my coffee? More like
Speaker 1: where's my weed? Because you were a Stoneer.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, even though I like only spolled to weed
Speaker 2: once during high school because I was like, I mean
Speaker 2: during class, because I was like afraid because I'm actually
Speaker 2: like a poster and as you said, I'm like the
Speaker 2: biggest goody.
Speaker 1: Two shoes, Yes you are.
Speaker 2: And then you know, years later, an announcement comes out
Speaker 2: us weekly Alec Baldwin, Mary's yoga teacher, Ilaria Thomas.
Speaker 1: And you were like walk it back one minute.
Speaker 2: And rumbles started in the in the CSW alumni community
Speaker 2: where we're like, hold on, Ilaria. And then some people
Speaker 2: were like, wait, no, she was a yoga teacher at CSW.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, no, wait, she was Flamenco girl.
Speaker 1: And you were like, yeah, she got so flamenco girled
Speaker 1: that she literally got taken away and Hillary dropped off.
Speaker 1: And she was like, you know, it would be absolutely
Speaker 1: hilarious if I changed my name to hilarious Hilaria hilarious.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think actually anything has been more hilarious
Speaker 2: than the name change from Hillary to Andaria.
Speaker 1: Bunniest thing that's ever happened. Sorry, Like she is a genius.
Speaker 1: She is a comedian. Her and Donald Trump, we are
Speaker 1: the two funniest people in America period. Okay, And like
Speaker 1: this is where so in the book, and this is
Speaker 1: like situating her in your high school. My first love
Speaker 1: was ballet, which I started as a toddler before quitting
Speaker 1: in a three year old's rebellion against the two strict teachers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's a total bad us.
Speaker 2: Which is why she probably on CSW a school for rebels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, huge rebels, the forty five thousand dollars a year rebels.
Speaker 1: By age seven, I found my way into gymnastics. My
Speaker 1: small stature and agility made me a natural fit for
Speaker 1: its complex moves and rigorous training. By my early teens,
Speaker 1: I fell headlong into the world of Latin ballroom dance.
Speaker 2: Add in clamshell sounds.
Speaker 1: Equally demanding, but with tiny sequined dresses and gold lemee
Speaker 1: heels as a bonus. I love the combination of music, costumes,
Speaker 1: and artistry, and this part kills me. Latin ballroom was
Speaker 1: arduous yet glamorous in a fake tan in fake eyelashes
Speaker 1: kind of way. I love this, the subtle ownership of
Speaker 1: her round place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, yeah, you know what was really fun
Speaker 2: getting a fake tanning? And yes, was spray tans really
Speaker 2: popular in the early two thousands, Maybe they were. You
Speaker 2: would take lunch breaks, But did you start by going
Speaker 2: by Stefano?
Speaker 1: I really wish I had the fucking gumption. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wish I had the balos this los balos that Ilaria
Speaker 1: did to go by Ilaria. If I just said I'm Stephano.
Speaker 2: I'm Stephano and I love dance.
Speaker 1: I am thinking bout dance And also just.
Speaker 2: Her general always vagary about like what country like She
Speaker 2: finally settled in Spain.
Speaker 1: But then she also said, according to her wiki, when
Speaker 1: I love to do all my research, she says she's
Speaker 1: culturally fluid and same girl.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that was the things. I was reading a
Speaker 2: very recent article about her and Alec escaping after he
Speaker 2: shot someone, and it was like they escape to a
Speaker 2: home in Manchester, Vermont, where Ilaria's family has owned for generation.
Speaker 1: Well, some of the earliest conquistadores actually were settled in
Speaker 1: at sugar Bush.
Speaker 2: They were Colombo Ski Mountain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Fernando, I believe it was Pizaro. He actually
Speaker 1: had a condo at Stowe.
Speaker 2: Killington was too expensive.
Speaker 1: It really was no back then because a lot of
Speaker 1: that gold that they were plundering that had to go
Speaker 1: back to the King and Queen over there in Spain. Then,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, don't get me started.
Speaker 2: So it seems like after she left the wonderful school
Speaker 2: of Camera School of Weston, she went to the city
Speaker 2: of New York City to study dance. I'm guessing it
Speaker 2: was n Yu or Juilliard.
Speaker 1: It was to n Yo. Well, her origin story is
Speaker 1: that she saw a yoga studio on her way to
Speaker 1: class while she was a student. N Yu I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just love how much she owns being just like
Speaker 1: the most making normal ass fake, just like rich suburban
Speaker 1: Boston girl and her being like I have this crazy
Speaker 1: story where I went on Vacca to span Now when
Speaker 1: I was like Key. Then then when I was at
Speaker 1: I saw a studio the yoga I'm making her like
Speaker 1: so Italian and now.
Speaker 2: But in the West Village. And also when the whole
Speaker 2: cucumber video which I'm referring to is when she went
Speaker 2: on like Good Morning America or like one of those
Speaker 2: even like faker morning food shows. She went on and
Speaker 2: they were like making a salad and she lifted up
Speaker 2: a cucumber and she said almost ice cucumber, and then
Speaker 2: so everyone Then of course the csw alum started.
Speaker 1: It was like her name is Hillary, and there.
Speaker 2: Was like this whole article and then her big defense
Speaker 2: came out. She was like, well, I was always traveling
Speaker 2: back and forth with my family to Majorca.
Speaker 1: And well, and why shouldn't you, you know.
Speaker 2: Get confused and take the culture.
Speaker 1: All culturals appropriation. At the end of the day, all
Speaker 1: culture comes from somewhere else, and why wouldn't you absorb
Speaker 1: the space you're in on vacation as a child, I
Speaker 1: was forced to summer on Nantucket and and my way
Speaker 1: of copying my coping strategy.
Speaker 2: Turning into whale sound Stephen, what do you want for dinner? Who?
Speaker 1: Because that was the culture at the time. So she does.
Speaker 1: She suffers through anorexia and bolimia. Her nails were brittle,
Speaker 1: her hair was falling out. My period was mia, my
Speaker 1: energy had tanked. That's when I found yoga. I was
Speaker 1: hustling across the East village to my NYU classes one
Speaker 1: day when I saw a sign for a new yoga studio.
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about the practice, but I heard
Speaker 1: it gave people relief from stress and physical aches and pains.
Speaker 1: Instinctively sensing that yoga might help sustain my dance career,
Speaker 1: I grabbed a flyer and then stared at it for
Speaker 1: a week, working up the courage to try something new,
Speaker 1: not easy for a perfectionist and competitor like me. I
Speaker 1: finally summed up the nerve to try a basic class.
Speaker 1: Wearing baggy sweatpants and a tank top. I tipped out
Speaker 1: of the backgrow with me, Now, wow, this is bold, brave, terrifying.
Speaker 2: I'm also a little bit like my high school, Like
Speaker 2: I am so not yoga, Like I even took yoga
Speaker 2: in high school.
Speaker 1: No, I know, he was like, bitch, you already knew
Speaker 1: what yoga was.
Speaker 2: It's like my high school was that you could take
Speaker 2: yoga one yoga too, and there was like so many
Speaker 2: Kundalini masters always coming to our hyamphus and like there
Speaker 2: are fast African drummers to join the Kundalini and then
Speaker 2: a dance. It's like maybe she was spending so much
Speaker 2: time off campus in.
Speaker 1: Her like with her flamm.
Speaker 2: Flamming cobrace, so she wasn't taking yoga one for like
Speaker 2: her athletics.
Speaker 1: I just when she goes i'd heard of it.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we never actually mass m I just like also
Speaker 1: like hustling kind of trying to subtlely evoke hustler culture.
Speaker 2: I feel like this whole what you is, This entire
Speaker 2: book is her talking about like hustle culture and how
Speaker 2: you need to make bowls for hustle culture.
Speaker 1: She's like, we're all.
Speaker 2: So busy, and I'm always so busy and my hours
Speaker 2: are crazy, and I was teaching yoga basically till three am,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't feeding myself.
Speaker 1: I was burnt out and I wasn't listening to my body. Okay,
Speaker 1: so then she so. Then the next sort of element
Speaker 1: of her origin story is that she breaks her hip
Speaker 1: slash leg randomly right as she's about to open Yoga Vida,
Speaker 1: her own yoga studio, and.
Speaker 2: She literally has to open Yoga Vita in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So just imagine that for a second. Okay, a
Speaker 1: yoga opening a yoga studio in a wheelchair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mondays were hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you could You know, that really puts her
Speaker 1: in this difficult space, and that's how she has to
Speaker 1: find all of the other elements of yoga, and not
Speaker 1: just the physical, but really start to get in touch
Speaker 1: with the mental and the spiritual and emotional aspects of
Speaker 1: her practice. And that's when she begins to develop the
Speaker 1: Living Clearly method five principles to incorporate into your life.
Speaker 2: I will say overall, and we're going to go through
Speaker 2: all the methods. This to me is much more of
Speaker 2: a book of how to get control of an eating
Speaker 2: disorder versu a book about how to lose weight.
Speaker 1: Y Yeah, okay, okay, hair, I mean the book itself
Speaker 1: is just random, random, and it's so much completely generic
Speaker 1: information that is like circular and repackaged, where she's just
Speaker 1: saying things like before you do something, stop and create
Speaker 1: space through perspective you mean, And you're like, yoh, you
Speaker 1: mean think? Are you talking about thinking? Is that your
Speaker 1: hot tip? Hilarious? Book?
Speaker 2: Could not be like more general, more fake, more where
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, so it will just be like try
Speaker 2: whole grains and fish and you're like, is this a
Speaker 2: whole food's pamphlet that I picked up nine years ago?
Speaker 1: So her first principle of the Living Clearly method is perspective,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of like how you look at the
Speaker 1: world and you're like, oh, that's true. I need to
Speaker 1: kind of like think about that more. And there she
Speaker 1: talks about these things when you like get stressed and
Speaker 1: you need to pull back for a second. And then
Speaker 1: she has within the five principle there's other like so
Speaker 1: within the first one perspective, there's like four different steps
Speaker 1: and it's like first pause, then zoom out, then ask
Speaker 1: a question, then make a choice, and it's like and
Speaker 1: her example is like so like like before you eat
Speaker 1: something bad, pause, then zoom out and think about like, wait,
Speaker 1: what am I doing? Am I eating? Then ask a question,
Speaker 1: how will this big mac make me feel? Or will
Speaker 1: I like what it does to my dress size in
Speaker 1: five years? I know.
Speaker 2: It's like everything. And it's also like she has four methods,
Speaker 2: but they're all that like they're all the same. I
Speaker 2: feel like every page I turned to was like, well
Speaker 2: that second class of wine really make you feel better?
Speaker 1: Right, And you're like, and again, you're kind of just
Speaker 1: saying the process.
Speaker 2: Is thinking, and then she's like, what if you breathed.
Speaker 1: One of her other prospective moments is so here this
Speaker 1: photo her doing cher pots on the street, which is
Speaker 1: again just so satire of stock photography and it's iconic
Speaker 1: on like a West village street. She's driving her stroller
Speaker 1: one spring afternoon when I was pregnant with Raphael Alec
Speaker 1: and I took gutniment so and she just names all
Speaker 1: her kids fully Spanish names. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Everyone, You're like, it's I would say this book is
Speaker 2: mostly about Carmen being two and annoying her. And it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: sounded like Carman was really annoying you during this book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure that kid is like
Speaker 1: really spoiled. We talked and laughed as we walked down
Speaker 1: the street. As we approached a corner, a woman nearly
Speaker 1: collided with Carmen's stroller. She looked at me, rolled her
Speaker 1: eyes and said some not so yogic words laudernav for
Speaker 1: Carmen to hear. I was surprised, but an effort to
Speaker 1: diffuse the situation, I simply said thank you. Well, that
Speaker 1: made her furious, and she launched into an angry ant
Speaker 1: about how I nearly crushed her foot with Gotaman's stroller.
Speaker 1: I'll admit that it was pretty tank like many strollers
Speaker 1: are these days, but we were walking slowly and carefully.
Speaker 2: You know, it was like a three thousand dollars McLaren Suv.
Speaker 1: And I love that she's admitting that, because, you know,
Speaker 1: this is one of my biggest pet peeves and we
Speaker 1: kind of touched upon this in the Naughty episode about
Speaker 1: car size. But strollers these days are SUV's. They are
Speaker 1: absolutely massive.
Speaker 2: They have eight cup holders, they have like full screens.
Speaker 1: It's like there's so many cup holders and ancillary bags
Speaker 1: and storage facilities on the stroller and it's kind of
Speaker 1: just like, at this point, you're not using it to
Speaker 1: cart your kid around you're carting half your apartment around
Speaker 1: with the.
Speaker 2: Ste Hello, here's a part a passage about how maybe
Speaker 2: kind of passionate her and Alex relationship is, but also
Speaker 2: like they do fight a lot. I find that my
Speaker 2: relationship with how it gives me the good ades opportunity
Speaker 2: to practice balance. Like getting married couple, we sometimes bicker
Speaker 2: and argue, often know for silly things, and because we
Speaker 2: both have strong personalities, our fights have the potential to
Speaker 2: escalate quickly.
Speaker 1: Before we know it.
Speaker 2: We're both agitated and then angry and resentful. These days,
Speaker 2: though we rarely move into hurtful arguments as we continually
Speaker 2: integrate each principle into our lives.
Speaker 1: Hmm, I'm sensing from that that he is basically storming
Speaker 1: out of the room while she's in chair posts.
Speaker 2: Yes, and she's like, get in jurors pose.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, when she says chair pose replaces coffee,
Speaker 2: it energizes you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say, I am feeling striked up
Speaker 1: after we just did twenty seconds of chair post like.
Speaker 1: It is a very intense post. For those of us
Speaker 1: who don't really work on their quads because they don't
Speaker 1: want big quods, it's a lot because the one that
Speaker 1: I was er I was, I go to a lot
Speaker 1: is putting the legs up on the wall, which I
Speaker 1: think is really great for getting blood flow, because your
Speaker 1: blood usually pools in your feet throughout the day and
Speaker 1: so then it falls back down into your chest cavity,
Speaker 1: and that.
Speaker 2: Is okay, the blood Master.
Speaker 1: It's great for a balance.
Speaker 2: I have a problem in the summer where I feel
Speaker 2: like and maybe I need to live the Living Clearly
Speaker 2: method and they eat more on zookie beans, but I
Speaker 2: feel like in the summer, like blood goes to my
Speaker 2: hands and my hands feel like heavy with blood.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's actually sign of pre diabetes. May I
Speaker 1: want to get that checked out book club.
Speaker 2: She's very pro meal planning and making bowls, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of like, I guess this book was written in
Speaker 2: what twenty sixty, Okay, so the beginning of bowl culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd say bull culture had kind of started before.
Speaker 1: I think bull culture was in pretty full swing at
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just saying literally, she didn't invent bulls. And it's
Speaker 2: just like, Babe, we know what a bowl is. And
Speaker 2: she just says chemoa nine million times. But she tells
Speaker 2: Alec she's like, okay, so we meal plan and make bowls.
Speaker 2: But then sometimes I will go to an old school
Speaker 2: NYC restaurant with Alec and they will serve a fluffy,
Speaker 2: oven made cornbread and I will have a slice of that.
Speaker 1: She says that cornbread isn't that bad for her because
Speaker 1: she's not diabetic. But let's just say you were, maybe
Speaker 1: you want to stay away from the corn bed. She's like,
Speaker 1: I can occasionally indulge in cornbread because I'm not diabetic,
Speaker 1: just so you guys know. But she's like, my monthly
Speaker 1: cornbread is okay. When we go to Las Colia, Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm okay to have this one slice and
Speaker 2: she savors it. It's also this insane thin girl thing
Speaker 2: that I've seen girls do that she tells you to do,
Speaker 2: which is either smell something or have one bite and
Speaker 2: put it down and then you're fine.
Speaker 1: So I do think though this was an interesting point
Speaker 1: that she was making though about having one bite, because
Speaker 1: she talked she references from chef who says that basically,
Speaker 1: by the third bite, what you're trying to do is
Speaker 1: recreate the magic of the first bite, which I think
Speaker 1: is a fascinating concept. There's such a law of diminishing
Speaker 1: returns with eating, and I think that like we actually
Speaker 1: are chasing that, And so whether or not you struggle
Speaker 1: with overeating or or your weight or you're trying to
Speaker 1: lose weight or not, like, it's actually something to be
Speaker 1: really mindful of when eating, because I think that this
Speaker 1: sort of panic almost sets in. It reminds me a
Speaker 1: little bit of Jacks famous piece. It's like, first slice,
Speaker 1: you don't even know you're eating yet, second slice you
Speaker 1: can only enjoy it if you know the third one's coming.
Speaker 1: But then it's like by the third what you're doing
Speaker 1: is trying to recreate the joy.
Speaker 2: Of that the first and the second, and you're just like.
Speaker 1: And when you were actually enjoying the pizza, it made
Speaker 1: me think.
Speaker 2: Of it's a little more animal mentality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like whether or not it's a bowl
Speaker 1: of cereal, like that first bite is always the best
Speaker 1: because it starts to get sauger and soggiar, right, and
Speaker 1: you're never as hungry as you were in the first bite,
Speaker 1: and hunger is the best spice. I think about even
Speaker 1: some of the fact you know, and this is why
Speaker 1: I think you know the fancy or of the restaurant,
Speaker 1: the small the dish is going to be because they
Speaker 1: know by that, you know, tenth bite or whatever, you're
Speaker 1: not going to be impressed anymore.
Speaker 2: No, and that's why you always actually are a little
Speaker 2: bit surprised at a tasting menu like our Foam restaurant
Speaker 2: in Chicago. I actually was very full by the end,
Speaker 2: even though.
Speaker 1: Right because you are eating enough, even though you're not.
Speaker 1: But our brains, our American brains, are trained to think
Speaker 1: will only be sated if we have this big, huge
Speaker 1: flavor with an eight ounce porterhouse on top of it.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about a woman, Sue's. I think
Speaker 2: her name is Susan Sanna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. The Susanna story actually kind of
Speaker 1: really got me a little bit. So Susannah. So this
Speaker 1: is the chapter I'm breathing. So breathing is another one
Speaker 1: of the principles of living Cleuey, and this principle I
Speaker 1: found to be a lot more helpful than perspective breathing
Speaker 1: because does help. Breathing is real. And here's something to notice.
Speaker 1: I literally never notice when I'm breathing. And okay, so
Speaker 1: everyone listening to this podcast right now, Okay, if you
Speaker 1: are walking down the street, if you're sitting on it
Speaker 1: in your car, if you're at the gym, I want
Speaker 1: you to literally just stop right now, breathe and pay
Speaker 1: it and breathe.
Speaker 2: And here, why don't you stop talking and let's breathe.
Speaker 1: Wow, are you breathing? But pay it. But it's also
Speaker 1: about it's not just breathing slowly, because breathing slowly works.
Speaker 1: Why because your body responds to the speed of breath.
Speaker 1: She actually has this really fascinating thing where she's like,
Speaker 1: if you are breathing quickly, it actually it'll make your
Speaker 1: mind race. So do this thing where you breathe slowly
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh yeah, I find myself slowing down,
Speaker 1: calming down. But then try breathing quickly. Your mind will
Speaker 1: start to race. You'll start to have all these other
Speaker 1: little thoughts.
Speaker 2: I found that when I noticed that I'm not breathing,
Speaker 2: which actually helped with my driving immensely. And you may
Speaker 2: find this with other skills. Is I think when I
Speaker 2: was the worst driver, if like I was merging or
Speaker 2: getting on the highway and it was stressful, I actually.
Speaker 1: Were holy your breath.
Speaker 2: I would completely stop breathing, which makes you completely more anxious,
Speaker 2: lose function in the brain because you're not getting oxygen there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then and then when I was like, oh my god, okay, wait,
Speaker 2: let's just breathe, and then you become a better driver.
Speaker 2: And of course the stakes practice.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, it does. I mean like even while you
Speaker 1: were just talking just then I forgot to breathe also captivated.
Speaker 1: I was absolutely captivated with your storytelling.
Speaker 2: And were you trying to get new crazy thoughts you
Speaker 2: were like, okay, oh yeah, what is that called? Like
Speaker 2: thought play where you hold your breath and rip another
Speaker 2: time of breath work, like honestly less than yoga. I
Speaker 2: remember working for Jerry Springer. I was always running, running,
Speaker 2: running back and forth.
Speaker 1: And one of the things you're also I think smoking
Speaker 1: a lot of menthol cigarettes, which was not good for
Speaker 1: your breath work.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, they like I was forced to smoke with
Speaker 2: all of the guests because I would take them all
Speaker 2: for smoke breaks and they'd be like, are you gonna
Speaker 2: smoke with us? And I'd be like, okay. And this
Speaker 2: hot Pa was like, You're actually gonna become more out
Speaker 2: of breath if you keep on.
Speaker 1: And she was hot, and so that's why you listened
Speaker 1: to her, Yeah, And I think that's also one of
Speaker 1: the less because she's like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like I'm hot, so you need to listen to me
Speaker 1: because I have a banging little body and I nabbed
Speaker 1: gazillionaire in The Hottest Bachelor of New York and this.
Speaker 2: Book is just being like, yeah, I like this guy
Speaker 2: now is like was like fat, but he's like so
Speaker 2: horny for me, so like I got him to eat
Speaker 2: bowls and to eat pasta prima vara with tofu.
Speaker 1: Good pussy, what have you eating tofu?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about soup. But back to Susannah for.
Speaker 1: A SECONDA she was really really stressed and type A
Speaker 1: and she was coming in to yoga class like being
Speaker 1: such a bitch to Hilaria and like always being like, actually,
Speaker 1: I think your class is actually kind of like you're
Speaker 1: going through the poses like and you're not your transitions
Speaker 1: aren't good, and it's like making me stressed, and also
Speaker 1: like I'm mad at everyone, and like she's just dissatisfied
Speaker 1: with everything all the time. And then Hilaria, without telling her,
Speaker 1: kind of shifts their practice to be just about breathing,
Speaker 1: and then she was like, Oh, when I got this
Speaker 1: bitch to actually focus on breathing, she like had to
Speaker 1: stop criticizing herself and me and everyone around her, and
Speaker 1: like a few weeks later she actually became nicer. And
Speaker 1: then I revealed to her she was like, girl, we've
Speaker 1: been actually just doing breath work for the past month,
Speaker 1: and like then she was like, oh fuck yeah.
Speaker 2: She bait and switch, but day and switch then on
Speaker 2: another little case study. She doesn't The case studies are
Speaker 2: like the most interesting part of the book because it's
Speaker 2: like any detail and the rest of it is just
Speaker 2: being like, mmm, buy almonds and bulk. She keeps on
Speaker 2: saying bulk produce like it's this thing that no one's
Speaker 2: ever heard of. She's like, actually your local grosser or.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, to be honest, I don't
Speaker 1: have the room for bulk produce in my New York
Speaker 1: City apartment. And I found that to be really fucked
Speaker 1: up in privileged of her to tell me to find deals.
Speaker 2: This is actually I just said everyone knows what bulk
Speaker 2: produce is, but now I'm realizing, you actually don't know
Speaker 2: what bulk purtose is.
Speaker 1: Because I don't have I don't have seven children with
Speaker 1: Spanish names. So I'm not buying eight heads of cabins
Speaker 1: a wee.
Speaker 2: Bulk like bulk grains doesn't mean you're getting like a
Speaker 2: Costco litter cat litter size of kinwall. It just means
Speaker 2: you go to the bulk section and you can like
Speaker 2: get how muchever you want and like little baggies.
Speaker 1: Oh they don't have that in my supermarket. They don't
Speaker 1: have that associated.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so actually you are of this book is
Speaker 2: for you, like you do need to like come over
Speaker 2: to tipmus, I'll take here's the bulk produce section where
Speaker 2: you can get dates and instead of sometimes I know, Stephen,
Speaker 2: you like to keep a little log of cooky doo
Speaker 2: in the freezer and when you gnaw on it, what's going.
Speaker 1: Through your mind?
Speaker 2: Do you stop? No?
Speaker 1: I am being mindless and I'm not breathing and I'm
Speaker 1: attacking the cookie doo because I'm not listening to my
Speaker 1: body and the mind body connection is severed and my
Speaker 1: body just wants pleasure and my mind is being like
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't care. This is gonna make
Speaker 1: me feel right now?
Speaker 2: What if we replaced it with one? Will go to
Speaker 2: a book produce section, and she suggests get it.
Speaker 1: Positive dates, Oh, bulk dates.
Speaker 2: And which I've started getting from my co op and I, oh,
Speaker 2: I love dates too. Let's have a date date. Okay.
Speaker 2: This woman who like comes to her and like went
Speaker 2: through menopause and started gaining weight. And she's like, but
Speaker 2: I exercise all the time, Like, I don't get why
Speaker 2: her name is Margaret, And she told Margaret to keep
Speaker 2: a food journal. Well, turns out Margaret and her husband
Speaker 2: Paul were life on New Yorkers. They loved wine and
Speaker 2: making dinners. But then so she cuts out. She's able
Speaker 2: to like cut down the wine a little, She's able
Speaker 2: to like do She's being very like fish. But then
Speaker 2: the last thing is coffee. But this I found so funny.
Speaker 2: I felt her steely grip loosening on this established way
Speaker 2: of doing things. She and her husband unlimited their drinking dinner,
Speaker 2: and her weight continued to melt away. Empowered by this
Speaker 2: incredible weight loss, Margaret then turned towards her coffee habit.
Speaker 2: I had asked her what would happen if I didn't
Speaker 2: drink mocha every morning?
Speaker 1: His client is so mocha.
Speaker 2: I know like this. I love this Simes woman and
Speaker 2: being like, I need my mocha. It's like, who has
Speaker 2: a mocha every day? She started slowly decreasing her mocha
Speaker 2: consumption to a few days a week, and the weight
Speaker 2: continued to roll off.
Speaker 1: There we go, honey, it was the it was the
Speaker 1: mocha pound.
Speaker 2: It was the mocha pound. So it's like, I guess
Speaker 2: she was getting the most like Starbucks, like whole milk
Speaker 2: mocha every morning. And then her and her husband, this
Speaker 2: is a tip, she had started doing green tea mornings
Speaker 2: and she started.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to that time with her husband and the tea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all one of those things where
Speaker 1: the whole self care industry has basically been like anything
Speaker 1: that makes you feel good is like good for you,
Speaker 1: and like it's important to like give yourself these moments. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, my morning latte, my iced lattai from Honeymoon,
Speaker 1: the new coffee shop around the corner for me does
Speaker 1: make me feel good. And yes, it is like twelve
Speaker 1: dollars a day. And then you're just kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you need to use my brain more and honey.
Speaker 2: Conversation and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll circle back on.
Speaker 2: Which is so funny because today I was trying to
Speaker 2: be so living clearly and I went and got a
Speaker 2: green juice at one of my local coffee shops milk
Speaker 2: and honey. To your point, it's like it's always like, oh,
Speaker 2: instead of getting your twelve dollars latte, maybe just take
Speaker 2: a walk around the block or right.
Speaker 1: But it's like, there's a way to justify the latte
Speaker 1: as being something that keeps me grounded, which is her
Speaker 1: third principle, which is basically just about noticing gravity and
Speaker 1: being like wherever you are. And I do encourage our
Speaker 1: listeners right now, please notice if you're standing, notice the
Speaker 1: way your feet feel on the ground.
Speaker 2: The first exercise I did from this book, I was
Speaker 2: completely lying down, feeling very sick, and it just said
Speaker 2: you can lie down and just feel the world and
Speaker 2: your body curling you up like a blanket. How does
Speaker 2: your feet feel sinking into the couch? How does your
Speaker 2: head feel? Yoga's obsessed with like telling you to feel
Speaker 2: something that you can't feel. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like Yoga's always being like feel your collar bone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to the left.
Speaker 2: Feel your jaw raising when you're watching TV that's all yoga.
Speaker 1: It's so feel your collarbone and you're kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: I yeah, let me just really quick, please circle back
Speaker 1: with my collar bone.
Speaker 2: And any time I've been a yoga class, I'm always
Speaker 2: like okay, and I think I have it for a second,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1: Totally, let's talk about our yoga experiences. Let's yea, lets
Speaker 1: do it. I I have occasionally done yoga throughout my life,
Speaker 1: and every single time I'm in yoga, it's I'm one
Speaker 1: of two men in the room, and like the other
Speaker 1: guy is such a like you know, bun on the
Speaker 1: top of the head, like whatever you like. Guy who
Speaker 1: like also like does it have like a great body,
Speaker 1: but has this like yoga body where it's kind of
Speaker 1: like he's got good posture, but he's like not so
Speaker 1: toned and he is just being so like yoga pants
Speaker 1: and like Bernie jon.
Speaker 2: Van Ness is how I imagine like most other men.
Speaker 1: In yoga one hundred percent it's only jvns. And then
Speaker 1: it's all these women, you know, range of body types,
Speaker 1: and they're all like doing the poses so perfectly imbalancing,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like I cannot keep up. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck they're saying. Vinyasa's going into hivinyasa
Speaker 1: in like two seconds flat. Everyone's like and circle back
Speaker 1: and round three robin and back up to dead cow
Speaker 1: and down to round cow. And I'm just like, I really,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing. And I'm sweating so much,
Speaker 1: I'm falling over, and it's discouraging.
Speaker 2: And it's intimidated that for those reasons. But then the
Speaker 2: second time, you're like, uh, well, I remember Hilaria style
Speaker 2: did in for your high school senior project. You do
Speaker 2: hot yoga.
Speaker 1: I did as.
Speaker 2: You had heard of technically, according to Ilaria, you had
Speaker 2: heard of yoga before Eli, Before Ilaria. My and my
Speaker 2: first yoga experience was positive because it was this is Cambridge.
Speaker 2: My mom's like private yoga teacher Candace, who was like
Speaker 2: a hot fifty year old with a tight bod see
Speaker 2: a theme here, And it was just me, my mom
Speaker 2: and my sister and she did like a lesson for us,
Speaker 2: and I feel like she was and I was so
Speaker 2: afraid clumsy, but she was being so like and lift
Speaker 2: one leg. And then I'm always the personal I assume
Speaker 2: you are when they're like if you need to use
Speaker 2: a block for this feel free.
Speaker 1: The condescending language around if you need the block, if
Speaker 1: if I.
Speaker 2: Need the block, and it's always this thing where I'm like.
Speaker 1: You're so fat and wobbly that you need a block,
Speaker 1: got one. But if you're able to find your center
Speaker 1: and not be a baby, then no, consider just actually
Speaker 1: doing the posts.
Speaker 2: And e Lauria is being kind of is being so
Speaker 2: if you need a block to the woman who's addictioned
Speaker 2: to Mocha's when she talks about her in the beginning,
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, Marker was coming to my class and
Speaker 2: she was able to keep up even though she was
Speaker 2: really overweight. And it's like, I'm sure this woman was
Speaker 2: just kind of a chubby, like fifty year old, and
Speaker 2: she's like, can you believe it? She was able to
Speaker 2: do a pose?
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you think I feel as a
Speaker 1: traditionally thin Spanish woman going into yoga and I see
Speaker 1: literal private women doing the post is better than me?
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, how is your center of gravity
Speaker 1: more in tune than mine?
Speaker 2: Because they're breathing?
Speaker 1: Because well, yeah, it's true, it's because they're breathing. I also, okay,
Speaker 1: the bar some of her other insane types at the
Speaker 1: end where she's trying to incorporate like exercise in true life,
Speaker 1: a do pigeon posse while vacuuming, and you're just like, okay,
Speaker 1: is the series like is the vacuum on? Or am
Speaker 1: I turning the vacuum off and just doing pigeon and
Speaker 1: then going back to the vacuum. Then the part where
Speaker 1: she says, grocery shop on your tippy toes, So I'm
Speaker 1: in the bulk section and I'm just tippy toeing and
Speaker 1: there's like an insane photo shoot ever doing it.
Speaker 2: And then there's a photo where she is kissing al
Speaker 2: Baldwin while doing a handstand.
Speaker 1: Wait, no, that part is insane. Also the photo where
Speaker 1: she's he's like wait oh.
Speaker 2: Wait, the one where he's pressing a blending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing a headstand and on their massive kitchen
Speaker 1: island and then he's like holding the blender. This photo,
Speaker 1: I mean it needs a bottle pussy whipped in this.
Speaker 1: It really is giving this magazine. I'm sorry, this is
Speaker 1: like twenty ten net art right now, literally.
Speaker 2: Full net art where yeah, it's like the amount albow
Speaker 2: is fussy whipped.
Speaker 1: It's so like satirical consumeris like luxury aesthetic like.
Speaker 2: What and the house, the apartment that they're in is
Speaker 2: such an apartment I would clean and then get complaints
Speaker 2: about from the client. It's giving sixth ave and eighteenth
Speaker 2: five bedroom.
Speaker 1: Hold on the part where she describes her their meeting
Speaker 1: when she's at dining elfresco with her girlfriends, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: this part literally, I was like, did we did I
Speaker 1: write this? One night, I headed out with two girlfriends
Speaker 1: for a meal. I was feeling celebratory. I was fit
Speaker 1: and healthy. My business partner I had found a second
Speaker 1: location for expanding yoga studio. We decided to beat ourselves
Speaker 1: to a glass of wine al fresco as it was
Speaker 1: an unseasonbly war meving enjoying ourselves. My girlfriends and I
Speaker 1: chatted about everything from work to fitness to dating. Feeling
Speaker 1: very clear about what I wanted, I declared to the
Speaker 1: sky universe, I'm ready to meet someone and fall in love.
Speaker 1: Little did I know that, by a stroke of destiny,
Speaker 1: my husband to be with sitting just two tables away.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend whacked me on my leg, whispering, Hilaria, shut up.
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin is looking at you.
Speaker 2: This is literally something you would write for like a
Speaker 2: women's like Earth Friendly Boot company. So I'm sitting with
Speaker 2: my girlfriends talking about politics, entertainment, dating, love, and exercise.
Speaker 1: My girlfriends and I chatted about exercise over wine.
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, was I having two glasses of a
Speaker 2: zingy a labrino. But I was celebrating, and I'm allowing
Speaker 2: that because I've been making feminine chema meal bowls all week.
Speaker 1: I peered over to his table and saw him staring
Speaker 1: at me. I recognized him, but only barely because I
Speaker 1: hardly ever went to the movies or watch TV. As
Speaker 1: I left the restaurant, he grabbed my hand, looked me
Speaker 1: square in the eye, and said, who are you? I
Speaker 1: must know you? And then they started dating also then
Speaker 1: he She says that they only shook hands for the first.
Speaker 2: Three months, but then they got married in like five
Speaker 2: months or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got married five months and had like thirty children. Boom.
Speaker 1: How does k vida KOs she manga? That's Italian.
Speaker 2: K Yeah, but I'm since I went to Mexico in a.
Speaker 1: Week, abi is maybe where? So listen, what is she wear?
Speaker 1: Yoga pants?
Speaker 2: Yoga pants?
Speaker 1: When off her tips? Is wear yoga pants and then
Speaker 1: you'll be ready to exercise. No one will know.
Speaker 2: I do think if you wear something you like when
Speaker 2: you're exercising, it will encourage you to exercise.
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Speaker 1: And then just like she's so basic and like she's
Speaker 1: I feel like she has the ability to make like
Speaker 1: Burg Dwarfs look like Macy's.
Speaker 2: Yes, like everything in here again like looks like something
Speaker 2: a detective from NCIS Las Vegas would wear, Like prop
Speaker 2: leather jacket.
Speaker 1: It's very Risolian aisles, like off duty vibes. And yet
Speaker 1: I bet she is going to like blooming Dails or
Speaker 1: Burg Dwarfs and paying like six hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: for that leather jack right, and.
Speaker 2: It's like a brand you have, it's a three thousand
Speaker 2: dollars like Auricough leather jacket.
Speaker 1: She's so.
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh it's beautiful orakof and then like
Speaker 2: boots again Italian leather maybe or Spanner sorry when maybe
Speaker 2: she goes to a special boot maker in my.
Speaker 1: Work, Yeah, she loves to go to the Marquesa in
Speaker 1: Barcelona on her way back from Majorca and talked to
Speaker 1: all the shops and.
Speaker 2: No, it's very Christian cavalry where she was went into
Speaker 2: that guide for her Demi Fine Jewelry line where she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm meeting a boot maker today. Yeah, how does she live?
Speaker 2: I mean, as I was saying, like, this is very
Speaker 2: like it's bed bath and beyond in this way where
Speaker 2: like everything is like it's cream and grays. But I
Speaker 2: do feel like it's clean. But there's still a lot
Speaker 2: of toys and there's a maid like picking them up constantly,
Speaker 2: and everything kind of a wipeable service because they surface
Speaker 2: because they have nine hundred children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's very cream and Nancy
Speaker 1: Myer's and it's pretty boring and there's mad maids. I'm
Speaker 1: like me and like, I guess my only question is
Speaker 1: like does Alec Baldwin get a man cave in there
Speaker 1: at all? Or No?
Speaker 2: No, I think he has an office that he gets
Speaker 2: to that's like in the West Village.
Speaker 1: He just rents an office space and that's like actually
Speaker 1: a townhouse.
Speaker 2: Where he has like a secret yeah cigar or whatever.
Speaker 2: I can even like smell it. Those rooms that are
Speaker 2: like with it's like a Miss Myer's baby soap and
Speaker 2: the crib and the diaper trash and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh that diaper smell and everything.
Speaker 2: It's like it. Basically, it probably is a more expensive
Speaker 2: version of that's just like a Kia rocking chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's you as well, say, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's actually not such an influencer room full of like
Speaker 1: weird fake products. I just don't think she's actually getting
Speaker 1: sent all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't think she is either. I think everyone is
Speaker 2: just like, what is wrong with her? And then I
Speaker 2: think she has her what you imagine her bulk produce
Speaker 2: pantry of a zuki beans and farrow and bulgar and millet.
Speaker 2: People always i'll hear theme of grains. I feel like
Speaker 2: people are mostly cooking quenwop when they're writing a book
Speaker 2: like this. They love to throw and millet and I'm
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 1: Right to try and be so medieval.
Speaker 2: And it's like, honey, you're not making a millet bowl
Speaker 2: with like a miso glaze. I just don't believe it.
Speaker 1: You're not doing me some millet reel it in?
Speaker 2: Who are you in the bug? Obviously, I'm like mocha addicted.
Speaker 1: Margaret, your mocha, mocha, Margaret, Moca Margaret. I mean I
Speaker 1: was seeing myself in Susannah and I did. I was like, uh, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I can focus on the negative a lot
Speaker 1: and forget to breathe. And I was I was seeing that.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, if I just slowed down, I
Speaker 1: might be able.
Speaker 2: And would you go in and correct the teacher.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be so bold as to
Speaker 1: correct the teacher, but I'm sure I would afterwards be
Speaker 1: telling you being like, and here's the thing about the
Speaker 1: teacher is that she was actually going through the moves
Speaker 1: into chipperk way, and I would actually be talking so
Speaker 1: much about her and without maybe looking with them and
Speaker 1: trying to just do the work and be grateful for
Speaker 1: the experience and breathe.
Speaker 2: So reading wise, okay, if this was just a photography book,
Speaker 2: I would give it five millet balls out of five.
Speaker 2: But as a general book, I'm having to give it
Speaker 2: a a one out of a one, or a coffee
Speaker 2: leather jacket out of five. You mean you mean, oh sorry,
Speaker 2: Uno out of sinco.
Speaker 1: Also, do we forget to talk about how their wedding
Speaker 1: rings have a Spanish phrase engraved on them.
Speaker 2: So mus, okay, we need those rings.
Speaker 1: We are a good team. I'm just like you've somehow
Speaker 1: wrangled Alec into your Spanish cosplay.
Speaker 2: Like right, he's walking around with this ring. I mean
Speaker 2: also wife.
Speaker 1: He's pretending Majorca is important to his culture.
Speaker 2: Wife Illuminati. All the reviews on the back or one
Speaker 2: is from Howard's.
Speaker 1: Wife, They're all from wis.
Speaker 2: And then it's Christie Brinkley, and I mean Maria Manuna's
Speaker 2: she guess she's a wife, but she's more famous than
Speaker 2: her husband. So thank you, thank you, and I believe
Speaker 2: we're in Manunas is also from like Bedford or something.
Speaker 1: She is a Boston girl because I remember seeing her
Speaker 1: on the cover of Boston Common magazine. Okay, I never
Speaker 1: forget it. She tore that cover, mother mother, oh hell Laria. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm giving it like those seeks bedroom
Speaker 1: villas in Majorca out of day because again, yeah, I
Speaker 1: I love the photography, and I think this satirical like
Speaker 1: consumerist like stock photography is very funny, and I love
Speaker 1: Alec Bobbin's role in the photography. However, there's so much
Speaker 1: filler in this book and the few points that she
Speaker 1: makes are like so hard to get to. When I
Speaker 1: think about someone like Kate Hudson's book, which is also
Speaker 1: like a lifestyle book, it's so much more fun. There's
Speaker 1: worksheets and call out boxes and it's just quizzes and
Speaker 1: like it's all in it just like it's just easy
Speaker 1: to consume. And quite frankly, this book was It's at
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pages, was a bit of a
Speaker 1: slow huk.
Speaker 2: A bit of slow you for saying that. The other thing,
Speaker 2: even if I wanted to like learn her crunches and stuff,
Speaker 2: it's always like, okay, the bicycle crunch. Actually you'll find
Speaker 2: instructions to that on page sixty seven, Like it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kind of like, just just put the bicycle
Speaker 1: crunch in there. And then she's also wasting so much
Speaker 1: time being like and then here's four pages on like
Speaker 1: this Vinasa flow and you're just like, I know what
Speaker 1: yoga is. I'm gonna either go to go to a
Speaker 1: yoga class or not. But I don't need to die. Damn.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk to Adrian, but I'm not gonna like
Speaker 2: be like wait what.
Speaker 1: And obviously the writing is just so Monica Lewinsky, and
Speaker 1: she keeps being like the information information super high rates,
Speaker 1: so it is so stressful nowadays more than ever. We're
Speaker 1: connected to her phone.
Speaker 2: So its like and she's like, are you reading Twitter
Speaker 2: dot com while you eat and reading news about the world?
Speaker 2: Think about your.
Speaker 1: Food anyway, I would recommend that everyone pay attention to
Speaker 1: their breathing.
Speaker 2: Yes, and don't recommend this book, but pay attention to
Speaker 2: your breathing and maybe yeah, try eating and paying attention
Speaker 2: to the flavors. Maybe use tumeric or.
Speaker 1: Me so tumberc and miso and savor it the third bite,
Speaker 1: the third bite. Don't chase the first bite forever?
Speaker 2: Okay, well best uh Lutra grassows yeah, grass basis.
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