WEBVTT - Hilaria "Hillary" Baldwin (RE-RELEASE)

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<v Speaker 1>Celebrity Gobble Gobble club Kids. It's Thanksgiving, which means we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking the week off, but we thought we'd dip back

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<v Speaker 1>into the archives for a really thematically important episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We found one of the most famous Massachusetts Pilgrim settlers.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Thanksgiving was a time when Pocahontas and John Smith said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just spend the night in make the Charlotte Posta.

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<v Speaker 2>And if Pocahontas was Ilaria Baldwin and John Smith was

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<v Speaker 2>out of Baldwin, then we would be in business anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Please enjoy Ilaria Baldwin, Mama of seven, and maybe you're

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<v Speaker 2>around the turkey right now with seven of your.

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<v Speaker 1>Rascals, because Thanksgiving is ultimately about togetherness and family, and

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<v Speaker 1>no one loves to be with her family Familia Vamilia

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<v Speaker 1>than Hilaria Baldwin. So please enjoy this episode from the

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<v Speaker 1>vault as you break.

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<v Speaker 2>Bread and maybe get inspired for healthy sides for Thanksgiving. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be pressured to have you know, Grandma's buttered yams.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's more grand nieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Wa Kale, shout out to all my grandnieces. Happy Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Club kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen and I right now are both in chair pose.

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<v Speaker 1>Arms up. You have to arms the sky, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Means we're not sitting on a chair. We're pretending we're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting on a chair and we're engaging our course straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, oh my god, it's so painful.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten seconds engage your bread.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I won.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have go on for longer, but again, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>with a mysterious sinus infection.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that is horrifying. Who's that knocking at

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<v Speaker 1>the door. It's all your friends, you filthy whrr Your

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<v Speaker 1>husband's gone and we've got books and a bottle of

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<v Speaker 1>wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's memoir. It's Martini.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebtly poop Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Read it while it's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrity poop Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys

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<v Speaker 1>are a loud cele say it loud and poud celebty

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<v Speaker 1>book club.

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<v Speaker 2>Buzz me in. I brought the queer.

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<v Speaker 1>Voe ohmga go.

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<v Speaker 2>Bien k pasa.

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<v Speaker 1>Movie biano theme mon amiga.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm grieving Tapa right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also craving I love the octopus of my of

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Vacation and as a child Spain, it is

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<v Speaker 1>so important to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I had for lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me guess, cilantro.

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<v Speaker 2>E nice cucumber?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, cucumber, cukarma cucumber.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did bread. Wow, but it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a farmer's rye.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well then it is a fiddle with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of sliced, chunky, heavenly summer tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>And tomatoes no, but they were looking red.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and como cities say cucumber.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's so healthy. I had. I had a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into die in a second, but perhaps we

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<v Speaker 1>can just jump right into this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and it's too exciting, and it's too urgent.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing has ever been more urgent.

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<v Speaker 2>We read and uh an amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And immersed ourselves in one of the most important spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>teachers of our generation.

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<v Speaker 2>You all know her, maybe as al Baldin's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you know her as Lily marn It's former,

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<v Speaker 1>some of you know her as the Rachel Dolazol, but

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish version say.

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<v Speaker 2>It with me. Today we read a book by.

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<v Speaker 1>Elaria Balden, also known as Hilaria Baldwin, and her book

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<v Speaker 1>The Living Clearly Method, five principles for a fit body,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy mind, and joy joyful life. So she of course

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<v Speaker 1>is the yoga wife of Alec Baldwin. I think she

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<v Speaker 1>just popped out her seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Her thing is just constantly being pregnant with Alec Balban's children.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always like sixty five and just like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I had another one.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she's always having like twins again, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's another like a single one and then a twin.

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<v Speaker 1>She is fertile as fat.

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<v Speaker 2>She is famously known for fully changing her accent to

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<v Speaker 2>having a Spanish accent sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into that right off the bat, before we

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<v Speaker 1>even get into the other. So, you know, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>from Massachusetts. She's basically me slash u because her parents

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<v Speaker 1>are doctors. Her dad worked at MGH. Her mom like

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<v Speaker 1>also worked at Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her marbors at Harvard. They would vacation in Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, as we learned this book, had family land

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<v Speaker 2>in Vermont, the Latin land of Vermont.

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<v Speaker 1>And specifically in Majorca, which is like just as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Spain goes, like, that's pretty kind of as fancy

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<v Speaker 1>as it gets over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's also just start with it. She was, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is my favorite phrase, a senior when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>freshman at favorite school of Buston. She was a senior

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was about the time that she, as she

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<v Speaker 1>discusses in this book, her any disorder was going off,

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<v Speaker 1>but also so was her love of flamenco.

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<v Speaker 2>Which here we go. So, as I knew her when

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<v Speaker 2>she was a senior and I was a freshman, her

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<v Speaker 2>name was not Ilaria. It was going to go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and be Hillary.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so crazy because Loca, that is Loka Chica.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Hillary. But it was Hillary Thomas, like

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Lynn Thomas. Yeah, just the most daughter of a

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard medical professor.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Harvard Medical US.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't be Spanish, Oh absolutely not. You can be

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish as fuck over there in Cambridge. But they named

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<v Speaker 1>her Hillary like her parents low key were like you,

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<v Speaker 1>our white ass daughter is going to be named Hillary.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure if you go to her birth records at

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Brigham or Beth Israel, it's gonna go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and be Hillary.

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<v Speaker 1>She was literally going by Hillary when she was a

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<v Speaker 1>senior refreshman.

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<v Speaker 2>Fully Hillary. But now, in defense of her Spanish heritage,

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<v Speaker 2>is that like in high school every time? So we

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<v Speaker 2>have these epic assemblies. I don't know if anyone for

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<v Speaker 2>lates out there where we had assembly coordinators which were

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<v Speaker 2>basically kind of the Jimmy Fallons or the David Letterman's

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<v Speaker 2>of Assembly, and you know a lot of times maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be a special program, and it felt like almost

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<v Speaker 2>every other assembly was literally Ilaria coming, then Hillary coming

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<v Speaker 2>with her Flamenco partner and doing Flamenco dance for the

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<v Speaker 2>school at assembly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so she was committed to the Spanish drag at

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<v Speaker 1>that point quite yes, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she was going by Hillary, But I was like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone just kind of knew her as like the Flamenco

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<v Speaker 2>dance girl, and she had like very like wet curls,

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<v Speaker 2>would wear full do the Flamenco outfit. Had her partner,

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<v Speaker 2>who I feel like was a random older guy, was

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<v Speaker 2>very dancing with the stars. And then it would be like.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was bringing in like her outside dance with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars partner to class. She was not a school person.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it'd be like, okay, let's settle in for

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<v Speaker 2>another one of like Hillary's Flamenco performances. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>being so like literally flamenco. So I'm like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>are Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions and she and she was slaying. She was an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing in a tear dress with castanettes and.

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<v Speaker 2>Show yes castanettes. Like it felt very like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a custom dress made at a Newton dance recital

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<v Speaker 2>Clovier studio. And the guy would wear like such a

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<v Speaker 2>like early two thousands, like shiny black express buttoned down

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<v Speaker 2>like snatched waists like big dancers slacks, and they would

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<v Speaker 2>just be snapping, snapping away.

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<v Speaker 1>Clacking away, and it's like eight thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're being just like where's my coffee? More like

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<v Speaker 1>where's my weed? Because you were a Stoneer.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck yeah, even though I like only spolled to weed

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<v Speaker 2>once during high school because I was like, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>during class, because I was like afraid because I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>like a poster and as you said, I'm like the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest goody.

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<v Speaker 1>Two shoes, Yes you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, years later, an announcement comes out

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<v Speaker 2>us weekly Alec Baldwin, Mary's yoga teacher, Ilaria Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were like walk it back one minute.

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<v Speaker 2>And rumbles started in the in the CSW alumni community

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<v Speaker 2>where we're like, hold on, Ilaria. And then some people

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<v Speaker 2>were like, wait, no, she was a yoga teacher at CSW.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, no, wait, she was Flamenco girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were like, yeah, she got so flamenco girled

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<v Speaker 1>that she literally got taken away and Hillary dropped off.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, you know, it would be absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious if I changed my name to hilarious Hilaria hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't think actually anything has been more hilarious

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<v Speaker 2>than the name change from Hillary to Andaria.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunniest thing that's ever happened. Sorry, Like she is a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a comedian. Her and Donald Trump, we are

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<v Speaker 1>the two funniest people in America period. Okay, And like

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<v Speaker 1>this is where so in the book, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like situating her in your high school. My first love

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<v Speaker 1>was ballet, which I started as a toddler before quitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a three year old's rebellion against the two strict teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's a total bad us.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why she probably on CSW a school for rebels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, huge rebels, the forty five thousand dollars a year rebels.

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<v Speaker 1>By age seven, I found my way into gymnastics. My

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<v Speaker 1>small stature and agility made me a natural fit for

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<v Speaker 1>its complex moves and rigorous training. By my early teens,

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<v Speaker 1>I fell headlong into the world of Latin ballroom dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Add in clamshell sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Equally demanding, but with tiny sequined dresses and gold lemee

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<v Speaker 1>heels as a bonus. I love the combination of music, costumes,

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<v Speaker 1>and artistry, and this part kills me. Latin ballroom was

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<v Speaker 1>arduous yet glamorous in a fake tan in fake eyelashes

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way. I love this, the subtle ownership of

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<v Speaker 1>her round place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like, yeah, you know what was really fun

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<v Speaker 2>getting a fake tanning? And yes, was spray tans really

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<v Speaker 2>popular in the early two thousands, Maybe they were. You

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<v Speaker 2>would take lunch breaks, But did you start by going

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<v Speaker 2>by Stefano?

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<v Speaker 1>I really wish I had the fucking gumption. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I had the balos this los balos that Ilaria

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<v Speaker 1>did to go by Ilaria. If I just said I'm Stephano.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Stephano and I love dance.

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<v Speaker 1>I am thinking bout dance And also just.

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<v Speaker 2>Her general always vagary about like what country like She

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<v Speaker 2>finally settled in Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she also said, according to her wiki, when

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<v Speaker 1>I love to do all my research, she says she's

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<v Speaker 1>culturally fluid and same girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and that was the things. I was reading a

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<v Speaker 2>very recent article about her and Alec escaping after he

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<v Speaker 2>shot someone, and it was like they escape to a

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<v Speaker 2>home in Manchester, Vermont, where Ilaria's family has owned for generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, some of the earliest conquistadores actually were settled in

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<v Speaker 1>at sugar Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>They were Colombo Ski Mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, Fernando, I believe it was Pizaro. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>had a condo at Stowe.

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<v Speaker 2>Killington was too expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was no back then because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that gold that they were plundering that had to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the King and Queen over there in Spain. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, don't get me started.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems like after she left the wonderful school

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<v Speaker 2>of Camera School of Weston, she went to the city

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<v Speaker 2>of New York City to study dance. I'm guessing it

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<v Speaker 2>was n Yu or Juilliard.

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<v Speaker 1>It was to n Yo. Well, her origin story is

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<v Speaker 1>that she saw a yoga studio on her way to

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<v Speaker 1>class while she was a student. N Yu I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just love how much she owns being just like

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<v Speaker 1>the most making normal ass fake, just like rich suburban

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<v Speaker 1>Boston girl and her being like I have this crazy

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<v Speaker 1>story where I went on Vacca to span Now when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like Key. Then then when I was at

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a studio the yoga I'm making her like

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<v Speaker 1>so Italian and now.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the West Village. And also when the whole

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<v Speaker 2>cucumber video which I'm referring to is when she went

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<v Speaker 2>on like Good Morning America or like one of those

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<v Speaker 2>even like faker morning food shows. She went on and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like making a salad and she lifted up

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<v Speaker 2>a cucumber and she said almost ice cucumber, and then

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<v Speaker 2>so everyone Then of course the csw alum started.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like her name is Hillary, and there.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like this whole article and then her big defense

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<v Speaker 2>came out. She was like, well, I was always traveling

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth with my family to Majorca.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, and why shouldn't you, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Get confused and take the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>All culturals appropriation. At the end of the day, all

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<v Speaker 1>culture comes from somewhere else, and why wouldn't you absorb

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<v Speaker 1>the space you're in on vacation as a child, I

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to summer on Nantucket and and my way

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<v Speaker 1>of copying my coping strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>Turning into whale sound Stephen, what do you want for dinner? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was the culture at the time. So she does.

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<v Speaker 1>She suffers through anorexia and bolimia. Her nails were brittle,

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<v Speaker 1>her hair was falling out. My period was mia, my

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<v Speaker 1>energy had tanked. That's when I found yoga. I was

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<v Speaker 1>hustling across the East village to my NYU classes one

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<v Speaker 1>day when I saw a sign for a new yoga studio.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know much about the practice, but I heard

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<v Speaker 1>it gave people relief from stress and physical aches and pains.

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<v Speaker 1>Instinctively sensing that yoga might help sustain my dance career,

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed a flyer and then stared at it for

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<v Speaker 1>a week, working up the courage to try something new,

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<v Speaker 1>not easy for a perfectionist and competitor like me. I

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<v Speaker 1>finally summed up the nerve to try a basic class.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing baggy sweatpants and a tank top. I tipped out

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<v Speaker 1>of the backgrow with me, Now, wow, this is bold, brave, terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also a little bit like my high school, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I am so not yoga, Like I even took yoga

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<v Speaker 2>in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know, he was like, bitch, you already knew

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<v Speaker 1>what yoga was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like my high school was that you could take

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<v Speaker 2>yoga one yoga too, and there was like so many

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<v Speaker 2>Kundalini masters always coming to our hyamphus and like there

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<v Speaker 2>are fast African drummers to join the Kundalini and then

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<v Speaker 2>a dance. It's like maybe she was spending so much

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<v Speaker 2>time off campus in.

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<v Speaker 1>Her like with her flamm.

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<v Speaker 2>Flamming cobrace, so she wasn't taking yoga one for like

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<v Speaker 2>her athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>I just when she goes i'd heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we never actually mass m I just like also

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<v Speaker 1>like hustling kind of trying to subtlely evoke hustler culture.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this whole what you is, This entire

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<v Speaker 2>book is her talking about like hustle culture and how

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<v Speaker 2>you need to make bowls for hustle culture.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, we're all.

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<v Speaker 2>So busy, and I'm always so busy and my hours

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<v Speaker 2>are crazy, and I was teaching yoga basically till three am,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wasn't feeding myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I was burnt out and I wasn't listening to my body. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so then she so. Then the next sort of element

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<v Speaker 1>of her origin story is that she breaks her hip

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<v Speaker 1>slash leg randomly right as she's about to open Yoga Vida,

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<v Speaker 1>her own yoga studio, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally has to open Yoga Vita in a wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So just imagine that for a second. Okay, a

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<v Speaker 1>yoga opening a yoga studio in a wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mondays were hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you could You know, that really puts her

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<v Speaker 1>in this difficult space, and that's how she has to

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<v Speaker 1>find all of the other elements of yoga, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just the physical, but really start to get in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with the mental and the spiritual and emotional aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>her practice. And that's when she begins to develop the

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<v Speaker 1>Living Clearly method five principles to incorporate into your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say overall, and we're going to go through

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<v Speaker 2>all the methods. This to me is much more of

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<v Speaker 2>a book of how to get control of an eating

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<v Speaker 2>disorder versu a book about how to lose weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Y Yeah, okay, okay, hair, I mean the book itself

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<v Speaker 1>is just random, random, and it's so much completely generic

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<v Speaker 1>information that is like circular and repackaged, where she's just

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<v Speaker 1>saying things like before you do something, stop and create

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<v Speaker 1>space through perspective you mean, And you're like, yoh, you

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<v Speaker 1>mean think? Are you talking about thinking? Is that your

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<v Speaker 1>hot tip? Hilarious? Book?

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<v Speaker 2>Could not be like more general, more fake, more where

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, okay, so it will just be like try

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<v Speaker 2>whole grains and fish and you're like, is this a

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<v Speaker 2>whole food's pamphlet that I picked up nine years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>So her first principle of the Living Clearly method is perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of like how you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>world and you're like, oh, that's true. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like think about that more. And there she

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<v Speaker 1>talks about these things when you like get stressed and

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<v Speaker 1>you need to pull back for a second. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she has within the five principle there's other like so

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<v Speaker 1>within the first one perspective, there's like four different steps

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like first pause, then zoom out, then ask

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<v Speaker 1>a question, then make a choice, and it's like and

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<v Speaker 1>her example is like so like like before you eat

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<v Speaker 1>something bad, pause, then zoom out and think about like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I doing? Am I eating? Then ask a question,

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<v Speaker 1>how will this big mac make me feel? Or will

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<v Speaker 1>I like what it does to my dress size in

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<v Speaker 1>five years? I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like everything. And it's also like she has four methods,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're all that like they're all the same. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like every page I turned to was like, well

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<v Speaker 2>that second class of wine really make you feel better?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And you're like, and again, you're kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>saying the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Is thinking, and then she's like, what if you breathed.

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<v Speaker 1>One of her other prospective moments is so here this

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<v Speaker 1>photo her doing cher pots on the street, which is

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<v Speaker 1>again just so satire of stock photography and it's iconic

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<v Speaker 1>on like a West village street. She's driving her stroller

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<v Speaker 1>one spring afternoon when I was pregnant with Raphael Alec

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<v Speaker 1>and I took gutniment so and she just names all

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<v Speaker 1>her kids fully Spanish names. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone, You're like, it's I would say this book is

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<v Speaker 2>mostly about Carmen being two and annoying her. And it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like Carman was really annoying you during this book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure that kid is like

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<v Speaker 1>really spoiled. We talked and laughed as we walked down

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<v Speaker 1>the street. As we approached a corner, a woman nearly

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<v Speaker 1>collided with Carmen's stroller. She looked at me, rolled her

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and said some not so yogic words laudernav for

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<v Speaker 1>Carmen to hear. I was surprised, but an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>diffuse the situation, I simply said thank you. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>made her furious, and she launched into an angry ant

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<v Speaker 1>about how I nearly crushed her foot with Gotaman's stroller.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll admit that it was pretty tank like many strollers

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<v Speaker 1>are these days, but we were walking slowly and carefully.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was like a three thousand dollars McLaren Suv.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that she's admitting that, because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of my biggest pet peeves and we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of touched upon this in the Naughty episode about

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<v Speaker 1>car size. But strollers these days are SUV's. They are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely massive.

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<v Speaker 2>They have eight cup holders, they have like full screens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's so many cup holders and ancillary bags

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<v Speaker 1>and storage facilities on the stroller and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just like, at this point, you're not using it to

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<v Speaker 1>cart your kid around you're carting half your apartment around

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<v Speaker 1>with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ste Hello, here's a part a passage about how maybe

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<v Speaker 2>kind of passionate her and Alex relationship is, but also

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<v Speaker 2>like they do fight a lot. I find that my

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with how it gives me the good ades opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to practice balance. Like getting married couple, we sometimes bicker

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<v Speaker 2>and argue, often know for silly things, and because we

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<v Speaker 2>both have strong personalities, our fights have the potential to

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<v Speaker 2>escalate quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we know it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're both agitated and then angry and resentful. These days,

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<v Speaker 2>though we rarely move into hurtful arguments as we continually

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<v Speaker 2>integrate each principle into our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, I'm sensing from that that he is basically storming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the room while she's in chair posts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and she's like, get in jurors pose.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, when she says chair pose replaces coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>it energizes you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I will say, I am feeling striked up

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<v Speaker 1>after we just did twenty seconds of chair post like.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a very intense post. For those of us

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<v Speaker 1>who don't really work on their quads because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want big quods, it's a lot because the one that

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<v Speaker 1>I was er I was, I go to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>is putting the legs up on the wall, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really great for getting blood flow, because your

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<v Speaker 1>blood usually pools in your feet throughout the day and

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<v Speaker 1>so then it falls back down into your chest cavity,

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<v Speaker 1>and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is okay, the blood Master.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great for a balance.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a problem in the summer where I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like and maybe I need to live the Living Clearly

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<v Speaker 2>method and they eat more on zookie beans, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like in the summer, like blood goes to my

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<v Speaker 2>hands and my hands feel like heavy with blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's actually sign of pre diabetes. May I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get that checked out book club.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very pro meal planning and making bowls, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I guess this book was written in

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<v Speaker 2>what twenty sixty, Okay, so the beginning of bowl culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'd say bull culture had kind of started before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think bull culture was in pretty full swing at

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<v Speaker 1>that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just saying literally, she didn't invent bulls. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, Babe, we know what a bowl is. And

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<v Speaker 2>she just says chemoa nine million times. But she tells

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<v Speaker 2>Alec she's like, okay, so we meal plan and make bowls.

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<v Speaker 2>But then sometimes I will go to an old school

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<v Speaker 2>NYC restaurant with Alec and they will serve a fluffy,

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<v Speaker 2>oven made cornbread and I will have a slice of that.

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<v Speaker 1>She says that cornbread isn't that bad for her because

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<v Speaker 1>she's not diabetic. But let's just say you were, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you want to stay away from the corn bed. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can occasionally indulge in cornbread because I'm not diabetic,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you guys know. But she's like, my monthly

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<v Speaker 1>cornbread is okay. When we go to Las Colia, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'm okay to have this one slice and

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<v Speaker 2>she savors it. It's also this insane thin girl thing

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.679
<v Speaker 2>that I've seen girls do that she tells you to do,

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<v Speaker 2>which is either smell something or have one bite and

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<v Speaker 2>put it down and then you're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do think though this was an interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>that she was making though about having one bite, because

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<v Speaker 1>she talked she references from chef who says that basically,

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<v Speaker 1>by the third bite, what you're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>recreate the magic of the first bite, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a fascinating concept. There's such a law of diminishing

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<v Speaker 1>returns with eating, and I think that like we actually

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<v Speaker 1>are chasing that, And so whether or not you struggle

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<v Speaker 1>with overeating or or your weight or you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight or not, like, it's actually something to be

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<v Speaker 1>really mindful of when eating, because I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of panic almost sets in. It reminds me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of Jacks famous piece. It's like, first slice,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know you're eating yet, second slice you

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<v Speaker 1>can only enjoy it if you know the third one's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's like by the third what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to recreate the joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that the first and the second, and you're just like.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you were actually enjoying the pizza, it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it's a little more animal mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like whether or not it's a bowl

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<v Speaker 1>of cereal, like that first bite is always the best

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>because it starts to get sauger and soggiar, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're never as hungry as you were in the first bite,

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and hunger is the best spice. I think about even

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<v Speaker 1>some of the fact you know, and this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know the fancy or of the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>the small the dish is going to be because they

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<v Speaker 1>know by that, you know, tenth bite or whatever, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be impressed anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and that's why you always actually are a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit surprised at a tasting menu like our Foam restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago. I actually was very full by the end,

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<v Speaker 2>even though.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because you are eating enough, even though you're not.

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But our brains, our American brains, are trained to think

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<v Speaker 1>will only be sated if we have this big, huge

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<v Speaker 1>flavor with an eight ounce porterhouse on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a woman, Sue's. I think

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<v Speaker 2>her name is Susan Sanna.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. The Susanna story actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really got me a little bit. So Susannah. So this

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is the chapter I'm breathing. So breathing is another one

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of the principles of living Cleuey, and this principle I

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<v Speaker 1>found to be a lot more helpful than perspective breathing

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>because does help. Breathing is real. And here's something to notice.

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I literally never notice when I'm breathing. And okay, so

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone listening to this podcast right now, Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are walking down the street, if you're sitting on it

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in your car, if you're at the gym, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to literally just stop right now, breathe and pay

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it and breathe.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And here, why don't you stop talking and let's breathe.

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, are you breathing? But pay it. But it's also

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>about it's not just breathing slowly, because breathing slowly works.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Why because your body responds to the speed of breath.

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>She actually has this really fascinating thing where she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are breathing quickly, it actually it'll make your

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>mind race. So do this thing where you breathe slowly

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.479
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh yeah, I find myself slowing down,

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 1>calming down. But then try breathing quickly. Your mind will

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>start to race. You'll start to have all these other

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>little thoughts.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I found that when I noticed that I'm not breathing,

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<v Speaker 2>which actually helped with my driving immensely. And you may

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<v Speaker 2>find this with other skills. Is I think when I

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<v Speaker 2>was the worst driver, if like I was merging or

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<v Speaker 2>getting on the highway and it was stressful, I actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Were holy your breath.

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<v Speaker 2>I would completely stop breathing, which makes you completely more anxious,

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>lose function in the brain because you're not getting oxygen there. Yeah,

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and then and then when I was like, oh my god, okay, wait,

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>let's just breathe, and then you become a better driver.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>And of course the stakes practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, no, it does. I mean like even while you

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking just then I forgot to breathe also captivated.

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I was absolutely captivated with your storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>And were you trying to get new crazy thoughts you

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>were like, okay, oh yeah, what is that called? Like

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>thought play where you hold your breath and rip another

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.239
<v Speaker 2>time of breath work, like honestly less than yoga. I

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>remember working for Jerry Springer. I was always running, running,

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>running back and forth.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things you're also I think smoking

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of menthol cigarettes, which was not good for

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>your breath work.

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, they like I was forced to smoke with

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 2>all of the guests because I would take them all

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>for smoke breaks and they'd be like, are you gonna

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>smoke with us? And I'd be like, okay. And this

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>hot Pa was like, You're actually gonna become more out

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>of breath if you keep on.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>And she was hot, and so that's why you listened

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to her, Yeah, And I think that's also one of

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the less because she's like, at the end of the day,

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>like I'm hot, so you need to listen to me

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>because I have a banging little body and I nabbed

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>gazillionaire in The Hottest Bachelor of New York and this.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Book is just being like, yeah, I like this guy

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>now is like was like fat, but he's like so

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 2>horny for me, so like I got him to eat

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<v Speaker 2>bowls and to eat pasta prima vara with tofu.

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.959
<v Speaker 1>Good pussy, what have you eating tofu?

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about soup. But back to Susannah for.

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<v Speaker 1>A SECONDA she was really really stressed and type A

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<v Speaker 1>and she was coming in to yoga class like being

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<v Speaker 1>such a bitch to Hilaria and like always being like, actually,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I think your class is actually kind of like you're

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<v Speaker 1>going through the poses like and you're not your transitions

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't good, and it's like making me stressed, and also

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>like I'm mad at everyone, and like she's just dissatisfied

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>with everything all the time. And then Hilaria, without telling her,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of shifts their practice to be just about breathing,

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and then she was like, Oh, when I got this

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>bitch to actually focus on breathing, she like had to

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>stop criticizing herself and me and everyone around her, and

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<v Speaker 1>like a few weeks later she actually became nicer. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I revealed to her she was like, girl, we've

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>been actually just doing breath work for the past month,

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and like then she was like, oh fuck yeah.

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>She bait and switch, but day and switch then on

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<v Speaker 2>another little case study. She doesn't The case studies are

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<v Speaker 2>like the most interesting part of the book because it's

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like any detail and the rest of it is just

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>being like, mmm, buy almonds and bulk. She keeps on

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 2>saying bulk produce like it's this thing that no one's

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of. She's like, actually your local grosser or.

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean, to be honest, I don't

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>have the room for bulk produce in my New York

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>City apartment. And I found that to be really fucked

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>up in privileged of her to tell me to find deals.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually I just said everyone knows what bulk

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<v Speaker 2>produce is, but now I'm realizing, you actually don't know

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 2>what bulk purtose is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't have I don't have seven children with

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish names. So I'm not buying eight heads of cabins

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a wee.

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<v Speaker 2>Bulk like bulk grains doesn't mean you're getting like a

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Costco litter cat litter size of kinwall. It just means

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you go to the bulk section and you can like

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<v Speaker 2>get how muchever you want and like little baggies.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh they don't have that in my supermarket. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that associated.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, so actually you are of this book is

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<v Speaker 2>for you, like you do need to like come over

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<v Speaker 2>to tipmus, I'll take here's the bulk produce section where

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<v Speaker 2>you can get dates and instead of sometimes I know, Stephen,

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you like to keep a little log of cooky doo

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>in the freezer and when you gnaw on it, what's going.

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<v Speaker 1>Through your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you stop? No?

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I am being mindless and I'm not breathing and I'm

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>attacking the cookie doo because I'm not listening to my

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>body and the mind body connection is severed and my

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>body just wants pleasure and my mind is being like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't care. This is gonna make

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>me feel right now?

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<v Speaker 2>What if we replaced it with one? Will go to

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<v Speaker 2>a book produce section, and she suggests get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Positive dates, Oh, bulk dates.

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<v Speaker 2>And which I've started getting from my co op and I, oh,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I love dates too. Let's have a date date. Okay.

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>This woman who like comes to her and like went

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<v Speaker 2>through menopause and started gaining weight. And she's like, but

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<v Speaker 2>I exercise all the time, Like, I don't get why

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<v Speaker 2>her name is Margaret, And she told Margaret to keep

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<v Speaker 2>a food journal. Well, turns out Margaret and her husband

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<v Speaker 2>Paul were life on New Yorkers. They loved wine and

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 2>making dinners. But then so she cuts out. She's able

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to like cut down the wine a little, She's able

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to like do She's being very like fish. But then

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing is coffee. But this I found so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt her steely grip loosening on this established way

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<v Speaker 2>of doing things. She and her husband unlimited their drinking dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>and her weight continued to melt away. Empowered by this

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>incredible weight loss, Margaret then turned towards her coffee habit.

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<v Speaker 2>I had asked her what would happen if I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>drink mocha every morning?

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>His client is so mocha.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I know like this. I love this Simes woman and

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>being like, I need my mocha. It's like, who has

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a mocha every day? She started slowly decreasing her mocha

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>consumption to a few days a week, and the weight

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 2>continued to roll off.

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>There we go, honey, it was the it was the

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>mocha pound.

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.919
<v Speaker 2>It was the mocha pound. So it's like, I guess

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>she was getting the most like Starbucks, like whole milk

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 2>mocha every morning. And then her and her husband, this

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 2>is a tip, she had started doing green tea mornings

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>and she started.

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to that time with her husband and the tea. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is all one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>the whole self care industry has basically been like anything

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel good is like good for you,

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and like it's important to like give yourself these moments. Well,

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, my morning latte, my iced lattai from Honeymoon,

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the new coffee shop around the corner for me does

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>make me feel good. And yes, it is like twelve

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 1>dollars a day. And then you're just kind of like, well,

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe you need to use my brain more and honey.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Conversation and we'll talk about that.

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we'll circle back on.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Which is so funny because today I was trying to

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>be so living clearly and I went and got a

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>green juice at one of my local coffee shops milk

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and honey. To your point, it's like it's always like, oh,

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 2>instead of getting your twelve dollars latte, maybe just take

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 2>a walk around the block or right.

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, there's a way to justify the latte

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>as being something that keeps me grounded, which is her

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>third principle, which is basically just about noticing gravity and

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>being like wherever you are. And I do encourage our

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>listeners right now, please notice if you're standing, notice the

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>way your feet feel on the ground.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 2>The first exercise I did from this book, I was

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 2>completely lying down, feeling very sick, and it just said

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 2>you can lie down and just feel the world and

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>your body curling you up like a blanket. How does

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>your feet feel sinking into the couch? How does your

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 2>head feel? Yoga's obsessed with like telling you to feel

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>something that you can't feel. Do you know what I mean?

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Like Yoga's always being like feel your collar bone.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, going to the left.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Feel your jaw raising when you're watching TV that's all yoga.

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>It's so feel your collarbone and you're kind of like, okay,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, let me just really quick, please circle back

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>with my collar bone.

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 2>And any time I've been a yoga class, I'm always

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like okay, and I think I have it for a second,

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, no, no.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Totally, let's talk about our yoga experiences. Let's yea, lets

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>do it. I I have occasionally done yoga throughout my life,

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and every single time I'm in yoga, it's I'm one

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of two men in the room, and like the other

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>guy is such a like you know, bun on the

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>top of the head, like whatever you like. Guy who

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like also like does it have like a great body,

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>but has this like yoga body where it's kind of

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>like he's got good posture, but he's like not so

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>toned and he is just being so like yoga pants

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and like Bernie jon.

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Van Ness is how I imagine like most other men.

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 1>In yoga one hundred percent it's only jvns. And then

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it's all these women, you know, range of body types,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're all like doing the poses so perfectly imbalancing,

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like I cannot keep up. I don't

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>know what the fuck they're saying. Vinyasa's going into hivinyasa

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>in like two seconds flat. Everyone's like and circle back

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and round three robin and back up to dead cow

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and down to round cow. And I'm just like, I really,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're doing. And I'm sweating so much,

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm falling over, and it's discouraging.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's intimidated that for those reasons. But then the

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 2>second time, you're like, uh, well, I remember Hilaria style

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>did in for your high school senior project. You do

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 2>hot yoga.

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I did as.

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>You had heard of technically, according to Ilaria, you had

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:39.759
<v Speaker 2>heard of yoga before Eli, Before Ilaria. My and my

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>first yoga experience was positive because it was this is Cambridge.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 2>My mom's like private yoga teacher Candace, who was like

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 2>a hot fifty year old with a tight bod see

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>a theme here, And it was just me, my mom

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and my sister and she did like a lesson for us,

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like she was and I was so

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>afraid clumsy, but she was being so like and lift

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>one leg. And then I'm always the personal I assume

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you are when they're like if you need to use

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>a block for this feel free.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>The condescending language around if you need the block, if

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>if I.

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Need the block, and it's always this thing where I'm like.

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>You're so fat and wobbly that you need a block,

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>got one. But if you're able to find your center

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and not be a baby, then no, consider just actually

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>doing the posts.

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>And e Lauria is being kind of is being so

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>if you need a block to the woman who's addictioned

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 2>to Mocha's when she talks about her in the beginning,

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 2>she's like, yeah, Marker was coming to my class and

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>she was able to keep up even though she was

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 2>really overweight. And it's like, I'm sure this woman was

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 2>just kind of a chubby, like fifty year old, and

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 2>she's like, can you believe it? She was able to

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>do a pose?

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you think I feel as a

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>traditionally thin Spanish woman going into yoga and I see

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>literal private women doing the post is better than me?

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, how is your center of gravity

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>more in tune than mine?

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Because they're breathing?

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Because well, yeah, it's true, it's because they're breathing. I also, okay,

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the bar some of her other insane types at the

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>end where she's trying to incorporate like exercise in true life,

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>a do pigeon posse while vacuuming, and you're just like, okay,

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>is the series like is the vacuum on? Or am

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I turning the vacuum off and just doing pigeon and

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>then going back to the vacuum. Then the part where

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>she says, grocery shop on your tippy toes, So I'm

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>in the bulk section and I'm just tippy toeing and

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>there's like an insane photo shoot ever doing it.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And then there's a photo where she is kissing al

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Baldwin while doing a handstand.

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Wait, no, that part is insane. Also the photo where

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>she's he's like wait oh.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Wait, the one where he's pressing a blending.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's doing a headstand and on their massive kitchen

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>island and then he's like holding the blender. This photo,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean it needs a bottle pussy whipped in this.

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It really is giving this magazine. I'm sorry, this is

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>like twenty ten net art right now, literally.

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Full net art where yeah, it's like the amount albow

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>is fussy whipped.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>It's so like satirical consumeris like luxury aesthetic like.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 2>What and the house, the apartment that they're in is

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.320
<v Speaker 2>such an apartment I would clean and then get complaints

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 2>about from the client. It's giving sixth ave and eighteenth

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 2>five bedroom.

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Hold on the part where she describes her their meeting

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>when she's at dining elfresco with her girlfriends, I'm sorry

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 1>this part literally, I was like, did we did I

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>write this? One night, I headed out with two girlfriends

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>for a meal. I was feeling celebratory. I was fit

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and healthy. My business partner I had found a second

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>location for expanding yoga studio. We decided to beat ourselves

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to a glass of wine al fresco as it was

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>an unseasonbly war meving enjoying ourselves. My girlfriends and I

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>chatted about everything from work to fitness to dating. Feeling

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>very clear about what I wanted, I declared to the

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 1>sky universe, I'm ready to meet someone and fall in love.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Little did I know that, by a stroke of destiny,

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>my husband to be with sitting just two tables away.

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend whacked me on my leg, whispering, Hilaria, shut up.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Alec Baldwin is looking at you.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>This is literally something you would write for like a

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 2>women's like Earth Friendly Boot company. So I'm sitting with

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>my girlfriends talking about politics, entertainment, dating, love, and exercise.

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>My girlfriends and I chatted about exercise over wine.

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, yes, was I having two glasses of a

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 2>zingy a labrino. But I was celebrating, and I'm allowing

0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>that because I've been making feminine chema meal bowls all week.

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I peered over to his table and saw him staring

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>at me. I recognized him, but only barely because I

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>hardly ever went to the movies or watch TV. As

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I left the restaurant, he grabbed my hand, looked me

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>square in the eye, and said, who are you? I

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>must know you? And then they started dating also then

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>he She says that they only shook hands for the first.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Three months, but then they got married in like five

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 2>months or something.

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got married five months and had like thirty children. Boom.

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>How does k vida KOs she manga? That's Italian.

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>K Yeah, but I'm since I went to Mexico in a.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Week, abi is maybe where? So listen, what is she wear?

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Yoga pants?

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Yoga pants?

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.839
<v Speaker 1>When off her tips? Is wear yoga pants and then

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll be ready to exercise. No one will know.

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I do think if you wear something you like when

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 2>you're exercising, it will encourage you to exercise.

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>And that's why this podcast is sponsored by fableat x.

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>By two and get five off with our special code

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>hid Aria.

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>And then just like she's so basic and like she's

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like she has the ability to make like

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Burg Dwarfs look like Macy's.

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, like everything in here again like looks like something

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 2>a detective from NCIS Las Vegas would wear, Like prop

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 2>leather jacket.

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>It's very Risolian aisles, like off duty vibes. And yet

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I bet she is going to like blooming Dails or

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Burg Dwarfs and paying like six hundred and fifty dollars

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>for that leather jack right, and.

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like a brand you have, it's a three thousand

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 2>dollars like Auricough leather jacket.

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>She's so.

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, oh it's beautiful orakof and then like

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 2>boots again Italian leather maybe or Spanner sorry when maybe

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 2>she goes to a special boot maker in my.

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Work, Yeah, she loves to go to the Marquesa in

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Barcelona on her way back from Majorca and talked to

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>all the shops and.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>No, it's very Christian cavalry where she was went into

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that guide for her Demi Fine Jewelry line where she's like,

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm meeting a boot maker today. Yeah, how does she live?

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, as I was saying, like, this is very

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 2>like it's bed bath and beyond in this way where

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>like everything is like it's cream and grays. But I

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 2>do feel like it's clean. But there's still a lot

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 2>of toys and there's a maid like picking them up constantly,

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 2>and everything kind of a wipeable service because they surface

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>because they have nine hundred children.

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think it's very cream and Nancy

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Myer's and it's pretty boring and there's mad maids. I'm

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>like me and like, I guess my only question is

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>like does Alec Baldwin get a man cave in there

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:19.760
<v Speaker 1>at all? Or No?

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.919
<v Speaker 2>No, I think he has an office that he gets

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to that's like in the West Village.

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>He just rents an office space and that's like actually

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>a townhouse.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Where he has like a secret yeah cigar or whatever.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I can even like smell it. Those rooms that are

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like with it's like a Miss Myer's baby soap and

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the crib and the diaper trash and it's.

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh that diaper smell and everything.

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like it. Basically, it probably is a more expensive

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>version of that's just like a Kia rocking chair.

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's you as well, say, I feel like

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>there's actually not such an influencer room full of like

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>weird fake products. I just don't think she's actually getting

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>sent all this stuff.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she is either. I think everyone is

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 2>just like, what is wrong with her? And then I

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>think she has her what you imagine her bulk produce

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>pantry of a zuki beans and farrow and bulgar and millet.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 2>People always i'll hear theme of grains. I feel like

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.879
<v Speaker 2>people are mostly cooking quenwop when they're writing a book

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 2>like this. They love to throw and millet and I'm

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>just like.

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Right to try and be so medieval.

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.280
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, honey, you're not making a millet bowl

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.359
<v Speaker 2>with like a miso glaze. I just don't believe it.

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>You're not doing me some millet reel it in?

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Who are you in the bug? Obviously, I'm like mocha addicted.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Margaret, your mocha, mocha, Margaret, Moca Margaret. I mean I

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>was seeing myself in Susannah and I did. I was like, uh, like,

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can focus on the negative a lot

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and forget to breathe. And I was I was seeing that.

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, God, if I just slowed down, I

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>might be able.

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 2>And would you go in and correct the teacher.

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would be so bold as to

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>correct the teacher, but I'm sure I would afterwards be

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 1>telling you being like, and here's the thing about the

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>teacher is that she was actually going through the moves

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>into chipperk way, and I would actually be talking so

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>much about her and without maybe looking with them and

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to just do the work and be grateful for

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the experience and breathe.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 2>So reading wise, okay, if this was just a photography book,

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I would give it five millet balls out of five.

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 2>But as a general book, I'm having to give it

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 2>a a one out of a one, or a coffee

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 2>leather jacket out of five. You mean you mean, oh sorry,

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Uno out of sinco.

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Also, do we forget to talk about how their wedding

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>rings have a Spanish phrase engraved on them.

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>So mus, okay, we need those rings.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>We are a good team. I'm just like you've somehow

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:07.839
<v Speaker 1>wrangled Alec into your Spanish cosplay.

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Like right, he's walking around with this ring. I mean

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 2>also wife.

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.720
<v Speaker 1>He's pretending Majorca is important to his culture.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Wife Illuminati. All the reviews on the back or one

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 2>is from Howard's.

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Wife, They're all from wis.

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 2>And then it's Christie Brinkley, and I mean Maria Manuna's

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>she guess she's a wife, but she's more famous than

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 2>her husband. So thank you, thank you, and I believe

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>we're in Manunas is also from like Bedford or something.

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>She is a Boston girl because I remember seeing her

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>on the cover of Boston Common magazine. Okay, I never

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>forget it. She tore that cover, mother mother, oh hell Laria. Yeah,

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm giving it like those seeks bedroom

0:49:55.680 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 1>villas in Majorca out of day because again, yeah, I

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the photography, and I think this satirical like

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 1>consumerist like stock photography is very funny, and I love

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Alec Bobbin's role in the photography. However, there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>filler in this book and the few points that she

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<v Speaker 1>makes are like so hard to get to. When I

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<v Speaker 1>think about someone like Kate Hudson's book, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>like a lifestyle book, it's so much more fun. There's

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<v Speaker 1>worksheets and call out boxes and it's just quizzes and

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<v Speaker 1>like it's all in it just like it's just easy

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<v Speaker 1>to consume. And quite frankly, this book was It's at

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty pages, was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>slow huk.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit of slow you for saying that. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>even if I wanted to like learn her crunches and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always like, okay, the bicycle crunch. Actually you'll find

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<v Speaker 2>instructions to that on page sixty seven, Like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're kind of like, just just put the bicycle

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<v Speaker 1>crunch in there. And then she's also wasting so much

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<v Speaker 1>time being like and then here's four pages on like

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<v Speaker 1>this Vinasa flow and you're just like, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>yoga is. I'm gonna either go to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>yoga class or not. But I don't need to die. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna walk to Adrian, but I'm not gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>be like wait what.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously the writing is just so Monica Lewinsky, and

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<v Speaker 1>she keeps being like the information information super high rates,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is so stressful nowadays more than ever. We're

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<v Speaker 1>connected to her phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So its like and she's like, are you reading Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>dot com while you eat and reading news about the world?

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<v Speaker 2>Think about your.

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<v Speaker 1>Food anyway, I would recommend that everyone pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>their breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and don't recommend this book, but pay attention to

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<v Speaker 2>your breathing and maybe yeah, try eating and paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>to the flavors. Maybe use tumeric or.

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<v Speaker 1>Me so tumberc and miso and savor it the third bite,

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<v Speaker 1>the third bite. Don't chase the first bite forever?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well best uh Lutra grassows yeah, grass basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Bien venido or credit. So the Celebrity Book Club. We

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