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Speaker 1: So you could listen to us in a continuous loop

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Speaker 1: high altitude object that was shot down near Alaska today.

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Speaker 1: It was not similar in size to the Chinese surveillance balloon.

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Speaker 1: We understand they may have retrieved the object, but we

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Speaker 1: They said it posed a reasonable threat to civilian air

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Speaker 1: flying object over Alaska. Now we have We are going

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Speaker 1: to talk now to Gloria Allred. She is representing two

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Speaker 1: members of Helena Hutchins family. Lana Hutchins was the cinematographer

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Speaker 1: who was shot and killed by alex Alec Baldwin on

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Speaker 1: the set of Baldwin's movie Rust. You're probably very familiar

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Speaker 1: who was representing himself and his son. There are other

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Speaker 1: Gloria Allred's company. This would be her parents and sister. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's get Gloria on. Hi. Good afternoon, John A Kin, Hi,

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Speaker 1: for inviting me. So the family members who are filing

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Speaker 1: How did they contact you all the way Ukraine? Well,

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Speaker 1: the theories of the case are battery, intentional infliction of

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Speaker 1: emotional distress, and negligence, and also loss of consortium. Now,

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Speaker 1: loss of consortium means that they had a mutually dependent

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Speaker 1: relationship with Helena Masie Rest in Peace, and that you

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Speaker 1: know that was an emotional relationship, physical relationship, and a

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Speaker 1: financial dependency as well, And so under New Mexico law,

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Speaker 1: still pending. And even though the incident occurred in New Mexico,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're claiming, like many others are, there wasn't

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Speaker 1: It's Gloria Alread, representing the parents and sister of Helena Hutchins, who,

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Speaker 1: of aircraft and Nissile used to shoot down the Chinese

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Speaker 1: not know anything else about it. It would be something

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Speaker 1: if it was China again, if this was their another attempt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, so they got our balloon, tried this thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, we're not backing down this slow

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Speaker 1: moving little I read it. I saw a headline. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to read the story, but the

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Speaker 1: headline was as Joe Biden missed the start of World

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Speaker 1: War three. It's always because there's already there was a

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Speaker 1: general that says they're going to use the twenty four

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Speaker 1: elections to maybe to invade Taiwan, and they're trying to

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Speaker 1: see what we might do. Yeah, and I read the

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Speaker 1: Germany is thinking of drafting, uh to rebuild its army.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you want that? Oh that's verbalton all this

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Speaker 1: year like a German draft because they're worried about the Russians,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they eventually blow through Ukraine, what's next? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just saw that nominated movie All Quiet on the

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Speaker 1: Western Front, which is actually a remake but it's nominated

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Speaker 1: for Best Picture, and it's like, oh yeah, the Germans

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Speaker 1: world War One, the Germans world War Two, No wonder

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Speaker 1: they decided after being decimated they were going to stand down.

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Speaker 1: They literally, no way. They're sitting at World War three though. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna lie them you they'll jump in yea.

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Speaker 1: All right. Now we're going to turn to a very

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Speaker 1: unusual case. I had never heard of this before, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, it was so rare that when the defense

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring it up in this trial, the prosecution's like,

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Speaker 1: what it was? A husband who apparently was caught driving

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Speaker 1: with a blood alcohol content of point one one percent.

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Speaker 1: Again California's blood alcohol content. If you're over point eight,

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Speaker 1: you're considered legally drunk and you can't be behind the wheel.

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Speaker 1: He was caught in Mendocino County and they charged him.

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Speaker 1: This man is sixty years old from Yucaiah. This actually

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Speaker 1: went to trial and after four days, the jury found

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Speaker 1: the man not guilty of driving a motor vehicle under

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Speaker 1: the influence of alcohol, not guilty of driving a motor

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Speaker 1: vehicle with a blood alcohol a point oh eight or greater.

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Speaker 1: The defense is argument was something called the law of necessity,

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Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because he had just

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Speaker 1: caught his wife cheating on him. But I think it

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Speaker 1: was necessary to allow him to escape two angry women.

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Speaker 1: Some news story got it backwards. I heard, I heard it,

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Speaker 1: I swear I heard and read in another story, is

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Speaker 1: that she was cheating on him? Yeah? No, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: updated story is that he was cheating on her. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: the man's wife caught him cheating, so not only would

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Speaker 1: I guess maybe the woman he was with didn't know

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Speaker 1: he was married. Now they're both mad at him, so

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Speaker 1: he needed to high tail it out of there. You're right,

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Speaker 1: I saw a story this morning, or I thought the

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Speaker 1: woman was cheating with another woman with another woman. It

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Speaker 1: might sound like right right, because and that he ran

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Speaker 1: off because he might kill them both. He's so angry,

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Speaker 1: but it's not. It appears to be he cheated on her.

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Speaker 1: I see, and he drove off drunk and a little

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Speaker 1: uh well, because maybe they were gonna blessed sympathy for

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Speaker 1: this guy now. But he actually convinced a jury that

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Speaker 1: this was a good defense for drunk driving because he

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Speaker 1: could have avoided a very deadly situation, either for himself

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Speaker 1: or for the women if they attacked him. If he

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: a more rural area. There were guns in the house,

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Speaker 1: and he decided, I got to get out of here

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Speaker 1: before this gets really ugly. The necessity defense he had

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Speaker 1: to prove that he acted in an emergency to prevent

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Speaker 1: significant bodily harm or evil to himself, evil or someone else,

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Speaker 1: and that other people who have deemed it necessary too.

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Speaker 1: So I guess there was so much rage and fire

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Speaker 1: coming out of the wife. It was the best thing.

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Speaker 1: He feared this could get ugly and she could kill me.

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Speaker 1: She could kill my lover, I gotta go. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what happened to the woman he was cheating with.

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Speaker 1: But he also almost proved that there was no adequate

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Speaker 1: legal alternative and that his driving with a blood alcohol

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Speaker 1: level greater than point o eight did not create a

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Speaker 1: greater danger than the one he avoided, which again could

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Speaker 1: have been bloodshed over the chief. There was this loophole.

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Speaker 1: So you get pulled over for drunken driving, you can

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Speaker 1: claim that my wife was enraged and coming at me

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Speaker 1: with a knife. So what other excuses can you come

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Speaker 1: up with? There's a reason to cheat and get away

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Speaker 1: with or to get out of this this getting busted

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Speaker 1: for DUI wow. I wonder if he got pulled over

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Speaker 1: if he said that to the cops. But I just

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Speaker 1: ran away from a situation where I could have been killed.

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Speaker 1: Oh so I just had to take the fastest route possible,

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Speaker 1: which is to drive my car away. You know, Tiger

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Speaker 1: Woods could have used this fifteen years to win the

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Speaker 1: golf club. That's right. Might have been a situation like that.

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Speaker 1: He could have been badly hurt. She now you're talking

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Speaker 1: about the first time he crashed the car. The second time? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first time, yes, like two name club. Right, she

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Speaker 1: came out the golf club and was was smashing his car.

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Speaker 1: And what happened? That's Tiger's mom, that is her there

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Speaker 1: really act Uh, the defendant had to prove he did

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Speaker 1: not substantially contribute to the emergency. Well he did because

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Speaker 1: he was cheating and somehow she caught him and freaked out.

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Speaker 1: How many guys were on this jury? I wonder what

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Speaker 1: I wonder who testified? What kind of this is like jury?

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Speaker 1: This is like jury nullification? It is you had to

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Speaker 1: can you have to think about that? Now? This legal?

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Speaker 1: It was so there was necessity. There was no sympathy

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Speaker 1: for the wife. Huh. Somehow she ended up being the

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Speaker 1: bad guy here. Well, I mean she was probably glad

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Speaker 1: he got caught driving drunk and probably would have faced Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, I mean, I mean the jury decided.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they took a look at her

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Speaker 1: and said, yeah, I could see that. I know what

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Speaker 1: it says here that they presented two angry women, so

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Speaker 1: too angry. The lover was mad. You probably that's why John,

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Speaker 1: You thought that the that the wife was having the

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Speaker 1: affair with another woman, right, Well, that's what I was

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Speaker 1: a story this morning. Debor that sound that way because

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Speaker 1: I even wrote it up that way this morning. I

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Speaker 1: thought that's what it was, right, but it looked like

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Speaker 1: it's been corrected later and to make it clear. But

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Speaker 1: a complicated life, I mean, and it usually yeah, well

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Speaker 1: not always, but it's off on the husband cheating on

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Speaker 1: the wife. Yeah, but you occasionally get a marriage where

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Speaker 1: the wife cheats on the husband with another woman. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's happened. That's right. Well, the prosecution tried to say,

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Speaker 1: you can't use this, it's never been used in a

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Speaker 1: situation like this, but the judge said, eh, let's throw

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Speaker 1: it in there, and the jury took it. Make it

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Speaker 1: of That jury must have been I'm guessing its majority. Guys. Gee,

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Speaker 1: you think we're coming up on the Witching Hour, which

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Speaker 1: means the last hour of the show on a Friday

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Speaker 1: is the moist line people. But right before that, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to the mayor of Laguna Beach. Apparently

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Speaker 1: the police they're investigating feces being smeared on and around

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Speaker 1: the city manager's home. Very strange story. Will see what

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Speaker 1: the Mayor of Laguna Beach, Bob Whalen can tell us

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