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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: a physician, a musician, and a podcastitiondition you go with that,

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Speaker 1: the host of the very fun, incredibly informative podcast House

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Speaker 1: of pot It's doctor cave Holder. Wow, thank you. This

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Speaker 1: is I have to say.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I want to contest and I'm to

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Speaker 2: be on the show.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, And I feel I have to say

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I'm on your show on one of

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Speaker 1: the big news weeks of the year. I'm so sorry

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Speaker 1: that it's me. So sorry.

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Speaker 3: Nothing happened.

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Speaker 1: We got that out of the way, and we know

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Speaker 1: we knocked that ship out yesterday. We are good here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mobility issues, things like that.

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Speaker 1: But just to be clear, yeah, you should feel as

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Speaker 1: a expert physician and a great podcast so you should

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Speaker 1: feel very grateful to be on our dumb podcast. It

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Speaker 1: is entirely appropriate, odd enough, because imposter syndrome is super

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Speaker 1: real okay, yeah to that and not a real.

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Speaker 2: You guys are fantastic. You know what, I actually listen

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Speaker 2: to your podcast. I bet you have a lot of

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Speaker 2: guests they're too cool for school and they come on

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Speaker 2: and their podcasters and they're like, don't actually listen.

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Speaker 1: I actually listened to you. So yeah, we listened to yours.

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Speaker 4: So, doctor k we have a Christy Gucci Mane, one

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Speaker 4: of our favorites. Oh yeah yeah yeah, favorite listeners and

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Speaker 4: guests of this podcast has.

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Speaker 1: Been on your show multiple times. He has he has

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Speaker 1: fun so funny. All right, Doctor Hoda, what's the comment comment?

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Speaker 1: Come on, bro, come on dude. My life is a

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Speaker 1: physician too, and she makes me call her doctor O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: So that's that sounds excite specific your marriage?

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Speaker 1: All right, it's my kink. What what can I say?

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Speaker 3: Always playing doctor but it's not even the exam. It's

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Speaker 3: just in a waiting room. Yeah, it's a doctor gonna

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Speaker 3: see me yet?

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Speaker 1: No, no, she's still refusing to see me, not answering

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Speaker 1: my calls for weeks at a time. It makes you

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Speaker 1: fill out forms when you come home. It's all paperwork basically, wait.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, way, you lost the intake for him again,

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Speaker 3: I guess I'll fill it out here board here I go.

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Speaker 1: All right, very not exciting COVID. We are going to

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Speaker 1: get into some questions we have as medical idiots. Just generally,

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Speaker 1: your show does a good job of just kind of

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Speaker 1: addressing some of the myths, some of the things that

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Speaker 1: people are ignoring that they should be paying maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit more attention to. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: we do like to get to know our guests a

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Speaker 1: little bit better by asking you, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what I just I just released an episode

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Speaker 2: of my podcast today and I was researching some stuff

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Speaker 2: for it, and I was looking on a pretty deep

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Speaker 2: you're familiar with her. She is the nurse in the

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Speaker 2: in a intensive care unit. Yeah, it was a yeah,

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Speaker 2: crazy story. We covered it last year, but since that

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Speaker 2: So it's really kind of changed the game a little bit,

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Speaker 2: all the recent looking up I did of dead babies.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully this show helps create an alibi. There you go,

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Speaker 1: and that that is what we are here for. So

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Speaker 1: you're just like you're just solving medical mysteries like an

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Speaker 1: episode of House over here, just on a basis most

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Speaker 1: accurate medical show around absolute. I'm just kidding, what is

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Speaker 1: but she has her answer, what's your answer?

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to know her answer. I think they're okay,

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Speaker 2: there's no great show for it, because like an accurate

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Speaker 2: But I think the show that kind of gets like

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Speaker 1: I think, like she says, yea scrubs, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: We're just the medical show.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna sound funny, but the show Lost. They

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Speaker 2: they did it really I thought pretty well, like crush

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Speaker 3: When Jack Shepherd said that woman was gonna dance at

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Speaker 3: feel like that was like the huge one. He's like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I I'm sure it probably isn't. But

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Speaker 2: I mean they're all kind of bad.

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Speaker 1: But you're just mainly referring to the fact that, like

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Speaker 1: it's the one trick doctors don't want you to know

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Speaker 3: Onlogists don't want you to know exactly. Other question, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Is it Google too? Yeah, well I'll tell you this, doctors.

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Speaker 2: Doctors definitely look stuff up, and they should, like I mean,

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Speaker 2: Of course, the major difference is doctors we have a

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Speaker 2: in the right direction. So, yeah, if you're if you

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Speaker 2: see a doctor looking something up, don't freak out necessarily

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Speaker 2: if you see them looking it up from like epoch times.

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Speaker 1: That could be a problem, not be good.

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Speaker 3: I'm using the right Yeah, yeah, the symptoms you could have,

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Speaker 3: Are you feeling like a character super Mario's.

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Speaker 1: I don't let my doctor look anything up. I don't

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Speaker 1: let them talk to another doctor because that's cheating. I

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Speaker 1: make sure that they kiss clean before they perform surgery.

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Speaker 1: This is all about what you can do, no cheating.

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is as underrated.

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Speaker 5: Underrated, vastly underrated, should be talked about the most often

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Speaker 5: are big, giant, stupid tiki drinks. I love these giant

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Speaker 5: tiki drinks. I love tiki culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm all in.

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Speaker 5: Give me tiki bars, give me hilarious tiki bars and

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Speaker 5: tiki culture feel like if couples and struggling marriages worked

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Speaker 3: Right, that's like, that's like the furthest it goes like.

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Speaker 5: If you get sing, you just go to cruises. If

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Speaker 5: you work on it, you just hang at tiki bars

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Speaker 5: and you really like goofy drinks with funny names.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, the the most problematic we get is

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Speaker 5: A y Z and I love the I'm all in.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I want to go to tiki bars. I

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Speaker 5: think they're funny. I think they're weird. They have old

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Speaker 5: One of the coolest bars in the world is a

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Speaker 5: Tiki Tea in Los Angeles. I really love these things.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's friendly and it's funny, and it's dark inside, and

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Speaker 1: Before we started recording, it was mainly like you started

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Speaker 1: noticing your affection increase around Charlottesville, right, You're like, I did.

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Speaker 1: I did the torches.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, that drove prices up, and if you look up

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Speaker 1: So it's because it's.

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Speaker 3: Just reopened, I think, right, because they were closed for

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Speaker 5: I think tragically someone in their family passed away.

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Speaker 5: What I love about t et is they seem to

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Speaker 5: own their land and their business and their property, and

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Speaker 5: don't need to be opened that much. They are just

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Speaker 5: you know, this is such la insider baseball. But they're

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Speaker 5: next to the Scientology production Center and they haven't sold

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Speaker 5: closed for months. They're like, we're closed for August and

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Speaker 5: September so our employees can chill. They don't know anyone anything.

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Speaker 5: Only twenty people can go inside.

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Speaker 1: I love them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm all in on tiki drinks.

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Speaker 1: What's It's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I was at City Walk and I went to Bubba

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Speaker 3: Gump Shrimp and the got like a tiki like an

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Speaker 3: tiki drink, and they're like, you know, for like an

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Speaker 3: a Bubba Gump Shrimp tiki glass. It's there's something I

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Speaker 3: There's just something so campy but comforting about this weird

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Speaker 3: There's like ceramic with like painted.

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Speaker 3: Good night, so they don't enter they don't enter your

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Speaker 3: dreams too, Freddy style. Yeah, it's Freddy Krueger's style for me.

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Speaker 3: Then I have dreams like I'm in the Resource Wars.

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Speaker 6: True, Kim and I are actually not afraid of Freddy Krueger.

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Speaker 6: We already know how we would defeat him, and mine

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just become Freddy Kruger.

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Speaker 6: There's no polite laughter, there's no like a good one.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to hear the joke again?

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Speaker 1: Did you not get it?

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Speaker 6: So I don't about Freddy her dreams in my naps,

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Speaker 3: Making jokes, making jokes to my mom. Should do the

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Speaker 6: It's it's just it's debilitating.

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Speaker 1: It sticks like you.

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Speaker 3: It's worse than like someone saying, dude, shut up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, I'd like it would welcome Kim being like

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Speaker 6: But yeah, sometimes that's all you have to offer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. It's power though, it's power, its power.

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Speaker 6: Able to trace it back to like something that you're

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Speaker 1: No, I just I just came back from a trip

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Speaker 1: It was just like some clothes or some ship anyways.

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Speaker 1: But then yeah, the dreams, my dreams. I just have

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Speaker 3: And then I just kind of came out of the

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Speaker 9: You just.

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Speaker 3: No, it's been a while I've not like the closest

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Speaker 3: I remember my dreams when I pee the bed. I

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Speaker 1: You did that when he was drunk a lot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: without the dreams. I just did it. It was my

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Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated or over Let's go

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Speaker 7: I had a hard time with this one, but I

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Speaker 7: did have to google some options.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 7: I put unboxing videos, Okay, don't get it. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if those are still a thing. I think for

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Speaker 7: do I want to watch you? Yeah, get pretty cool thing?

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Speaker 7: And then I don't have that cool thing, and then

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Speaker 3: I think if you know you have no chance of

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Speaker 3: And then but I, yeah, that's about it.

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Speaker 6: I don't I think I'm too covetous of a person.

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Speaker 3: You'd covet your neighbors on boxing.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you're just like mad that they got it,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, fuck you. Yeah you're just saying you think

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Speaker 3: An only child thing. Like I feel like I would

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Speaker 3: I remember I remember being at birthday parties as a kid.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, they got that? Fuck Like.

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Speaker 3: No, I'd be like, man, I would have I would

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Speaker 3: have played the funk out of that toy, but then

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Speaker 1: It just got I.

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Speaker 6: Would just befriend them so that I could go over

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Speaker 1: And break it so they can never have it again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or or try to be like we're trying to

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Speaker 6: you want, Maybe I could we can trade it for like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, like that that thing that's not even

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Speaker 1: I heard it's like for babies.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, this is like, this is cool. It's

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Speaker 1: Dude. Wow, Oh really you like that? I want the

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Speaker 1: back of the nose laughter. I feel like that's okay, okay, wait,

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Speaker 6: Really like back of the nose laughter as a description.

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Speaker 8: That's great.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna steal that.

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Speaker 3: Watch out, he's litigious, will come after you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and everything you own. If I hear you saying that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I kind of think back of the nose laughing

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Speaker 1: I was just joking about being regious? I think it sucks. Actually, whatever,

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Speaker 1: what else, it's yours, it's yours. Actually, I fucking hate it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. And so, I

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Speaker 3: And he's already ranting, you know, just like fire and

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Speaker 3: I don't know where that from aside from like a

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Speaker 1: But we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the.

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Speaker 3: Grift on his almost martyredom has begun because now one

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Speaker 3: famous image of him bloodied and fist pumping, and these

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Speaker 3: class meg in case you need to see these, because

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Speaker 3: put together on a word document. Just be like, okay,

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Speaker 3: let me drag this, let me drag this.

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Speaker 8: Or is generous. I think I think this is like me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, it is MS paint and like, yeah,

441
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: it's true. It has his like fist pumpy, bloody face

442
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 3: on it with the words fight, Fight, Fight on the

443
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Speaker 3: soul And I know this is clearly a mock up

444
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: and not what the original or what the actual final

445
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: products look like will look like. But either way, it

446
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 3: looks like shit. But the way they are promoting it

447
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: is quote, these limited edition high tops featuring Trump's iconic

448
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: image with his fist raised honor his unwavering determination and bravery.

449
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 3: With only five thousand pairs available, each one is a

450
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: true collector's item. Show your support and patriotic pride with

451
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: these exclusive sneakers capturing a defining moment in history.

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Speaker 1: Are they from him officially? Are they? Oh? Yeah? What? Yeah?

453
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: You couldn't get away with it? Right? This is their own.

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Speaker 3: Well, first I want to say before I get to

455
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Speaker 3: the origin, they are only two hundred ninety nine dollars.

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00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: That's steal right, And yes, thank you Meg, That's what I've

457
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: been trying to tell Jack before we got on Mic

458
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Speaker 3: admitted edition.

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Speaker 1: The Gold ones.

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Speaker 3: You remember the Gold ones that he debuted like sneaker

461
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Speaker 3: con those sold for three ninety nine. So this is

462
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Speaker 3: a bit of a This is a This is a

463
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Speaker 3: nice entry point, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, through the door.

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Speaker 3: Very heavy but no, but there's a lot of like

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Speaker 3: lead in the metallic materials, I think, so you should

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Speaker 3: probably stop.

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Speaker 8: Heavy is the foot that were's the.

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Speaker 1: Shoe banks as they say, Wow, you are literary.

470
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: Shit damn too online, dude, that was so fucking literary.

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Speaker 1: Fuck with that.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm like sidelined and like I really got

473
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Speaker 3: to step my shit up. But ten random pairs of

474
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Speaker 3: these five thousand will be signed. But here's the thing.

475
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Speaker 3: These shoes, which I've called the air Red Flag twos,

476
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: they are being made by the exact same company that

477
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Speaker 3: did the gold sneaker. And Trump's like, they're not political,

478
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: they don't have anything to do with the campaign or whatever.

479
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: But this company he owns the fucking company that makes them.

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Speaker 3: And like the address if you look for the business

481
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Speaker 3: is located is like his golf one of his golf

482
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Speaker 3: courses in Florida.

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Speaker 1: So it's not technically like you shouldn't be doing this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jack in the Year of Harlower twenty four,

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Speaker 3: we know not how crime is.

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Speaker 1: What is it to even say that.

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Speaker 8: Crimes don't exist anymore? It's just it's a free for all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, only thought crimes. Yeah, they seem like bootleg like

489
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Speaker 1: Avengers shoes like you know, you know, like children's clothing

490
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Speaker 1: or children's shoes that have just like a screen printed

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Speaker 1: Robert Downey Juinger on it, you know, like it, right,

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Speaker 1: because you don't put photographs on shoes as far as like,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of another example of a photograph on

494
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Speaker 1: shoes other than bootleg Avengers sneakers.

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Speaker 3: Say Jalen Brown, I think had some interesting paintings on

496
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Speaker 3: his sneakers in the past, right, but I don't know

497
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Speaker 3: about Yeah, I don't know about direct to garment printing.

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Speaker 3: It looks like like what Homelander from The Boys would

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Speaker 3: wear like.

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Speaker 1: Once he's fully washed. Yeah, you know what I need?

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Speaker 1: I need these, like, I need pictures of these out

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Speaker 1: in the wild, because I think they're gonna look amazing.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, just like the gold sneakers they spoiler alert,

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00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: they looked like.

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Speaker 8: Shit, what do you mean are they not American.

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Speaker 3: Maid No, not even close, not even close for them

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Speaker 3: to turn the kind of profit they want off a

508
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Speaker 3: three hundred and ninety nine dollars sneaker. Like, I'm sure

509
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Speaker 3: these are being made for like four to five.

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Speaker 1: So do with that information what you will. It didn't

511
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Speaker 1: just look like you were standing in the briefcase from

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Speaker 1: pulp fiction, like you just had the glow of the

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Speaker 1: golden logo. No, no, unfortunately not no. All right, so

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Speaker 1: we still don't know much about the motive at this

515
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Speaker 1: point of the person who the twenty year old Matthew Crooks. No,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Crooks is his dad, right, his Thomas Matthew Crooks.

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Speaker 1: Thomas Matthew Crooks. That's how you know three names. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But we continue to learn little bits about him, like

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Speaker 1: that his dad was like highly targeted, highly indexed by

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00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign back in twenty sixteen because of he

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00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: had all the all the factors you look for in

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Speaker 1: a Facebook like data profile. He was like I think

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Speaker 1: number seven of like thousands of people in his town.

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Speaker 3: Like they're or to point ninety nine on a scale

525
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Speaker 3: of one point zero in terms of like what they

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Speaker 3: figured as like a voter who would be like especially

527
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Speaker 3: open to targeted messaging around gun rights. Yes, so I

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Speaker 3: mean all that really does is show that like Crooks

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Speaker 3: came from a conservative home, but like really nothing else

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Speaker 3: about his motives. But meanwhile, both sides continue to point

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Speaker 3: fingers and come up with all kinds of shit. There's

532
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Speaker 3: like it was Biden pulling strings with the Secret Service

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Speaker 3: to get Trump got.

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Speaker 1: Or Trump definitely seems like Biden by the way, like

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Speaker 1: right now, he seems like somebody who's just behind everything,

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Speaker 1: pulling the strings, super competent. Sure sure, sure yeah.

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Speaker 3: Or a lot of liberals are coping by saying like

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Speaker 3: this is did Trump's had to have staged this to help,

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Speaker 3: you know, really cement his candidacy. Then other people like

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Speaker 3: this is retaliation from the deep state. Then there was

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Speaker 3: like the Secret Service was trying to make it look

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Speaker 3: like an accident and the who's gonna get JFK or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Then another person like it's the fact that there were

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Speaker 3: women that exist in the Secret Service. That's that's why,

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Speaker 3: and fun, that's clearly the problem. Yeah, the DEI bullshit

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00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: is so on point, like for the right, because everything

547
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: is DEI now, like it's whether that's their way to

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Speaker 3: be like not at this point, not really coded racism,

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Speaker 3: but you know that they're just like I don't want

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Speaker 3: to say the N word, saw say DEI. I don't

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00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: want to say I outwardly hate women. I'll let the

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Speaker 3: policies speak for that, but I will I will summon

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Speaker 3: DEI as a way to cast dispersions on the Secret Service.

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Speaker 3: But like even Eric Trump was on CNN like fully

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Speaker 3: putting his support behind the Secret Service agents. He said,

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Speaker 3: quote one of the females on the stage, she's with

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Speaker 3: me for three years. I know everything about her. She

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Speaker 3: would take a bullet for me. She would take a

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Speaker 3: bullet for him, as courageous as they come. Same with

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Speaker 3: everybody else who was around him. The head of his

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00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: detail was on that stage too, so ac quoting Eric Trump,

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Speaker 3: quote the female one is okay.

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Speaker 8: The best way to know that you're an ally to

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Speaker 8: women you call them females.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are the females on this stage? I'm like,

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Speaker 3: are you on a men's rights podcast right now?

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Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: And it was also reported but earlier this week, that

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Speaker 3: the Secret Service was actually became aware of a plan

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Speaker 3: that the Iranian government had a plot to potentially assassinate

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Speaker 3: Trump said this quote. Secret Service learned of the increased

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Speaker 3: threat from this threat stream. The National Security Council directly

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Speaker 3: contacted the Secret Service at a senior level to be

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Speaker 3: absolutely sure they continue to track the latest reporting, and

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Speaker 3: they said as a result of this quote, Secret Service

576
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Speaker 3: surged resources and assets for the protection of former President Trump.

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00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: All of this was in advance of Saturday. That means

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Speaker 3: law enforcement was apparently beefing up their presence and had

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Speaker 3: were being extra vigilant. Yet this person was able to

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Speaker 3: climb on the roof of a building that had law

581
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Speaker 3: enforcement inside of it, just to add insult to injury.

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Speaker 1: So wait, there was law enforcement in the building that

583
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Speaker 1: he was living ones. What does that sound?

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Speaker 3: I know it's like squirrels or something, But I think

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Speaker 3: it's also entirely possible that, like the police are not

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Speaker 3: good at their jobs.

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Speaker 1: WHOA.

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Speaker 8: Obviously I don't say it with your whole chip.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I don't. I don't know if I can.

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Speaker 9: But maybe that could also be true here, because I've

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Speaker 9: seen a lot over the last few years that would

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Speaker 9: suggest they're not the best at preventing crimes.

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Speaker 3: They're usually really good at violating people's rights and personhood

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Speaker 3: or you know, ending their lives tragically. That seems to

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Speaker 3: be something that they have demonstrated high efficiency at. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's not the conversation being had right now.

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Speaker 3: It's either DEI or was staged. Those are your two options,

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans. I actually see no signs of societal

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00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: rot here at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do not like incompetence as the explanation for

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00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: a historical event. Generally we will just write the incompetence out,

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Speaker 1: whether it be Hitler oversleeping on D Day and like

603
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Speaker 1: everybody being too scared to wake him up and that

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Speaker 1: be the thing that like helped the Allied forces win

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Speaker 1: D Day, or you know, the version of the jfk assassination,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the most reasonable explanation that a

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Speaker 1: secret service agent actually fired the third shot that actually

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Speaker 1: struck him in the head and killed him by accident.

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Speaker 1: But when you raise that possibility to people, they are hostile.

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Speaker 1: They're fucking they want you to shut up. Human error. Yeah,

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00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: they don't like that shit at all.

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: This sounds like a great topic for me to bring

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Speaker 8: up this Thanksgiving with my father.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we just don't want to admit that it's

616
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Speaker 1: a bunch of dummies out there.

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Speaker 3: What would the response be from your dad if you said,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe they messed up and aren't that good?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well, that is my favorite Thanksgiving side is

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Speaker 1: the Gin the Gin? Sure? Sure, sure, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: I do want to just touch on it because the

622
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Speaker 1: reasons to replace Joe Biden have not stopped rolling in.

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Speaker 1: There's been some high profile moments, obviously in the aftermath

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Speaker 1: of an attempted assassination on one of the presidential candidates.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple of speeches that he gave. The

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Speaker 1: one where he said we saw resolve our differences at

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Speaker 1: the battle box and injured and he was seriously injured.

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Speaker 1: He was seriously injured, and the differences at the battle

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Speaker 1: box and seems to recognize it and then go back

630
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Speaker 1: and say battle box again. But that was pre taped, right,

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Speaker 1: That wasn't That wasn't like a live press conference in

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Speaker 1: front with an audience. It was like him at his desk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's him at the desk. But I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I honestly don't know the nature of whether it was

635
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Speaker 3: fully live or pre taped.

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Speaker 1: Either way, he just couldn't pull it off. He couldn't

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Speaker 1: do the thing. There's there's like this interview with Complex

638
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: magazine where he just like can't do it. It's like

639
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes he you know it might seem like, oh,

640
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Speaker 1: well he doesn't give a shit. He's like with complex

641
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: but like that he needs to nail every interview first

642
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Speaker 1: of all. And also you know it's like a young

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00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: audience who he's really struggling with, and he just like

644
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: can't maintain his train of thought. Like there's one part

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00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: where you know, the first question the guy, the first

646
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: question is like, so you're getting up there, man, Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people think you're too old. And he

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Speaker 1: I tried to transcribe this, but he says, I didn't

649
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Speaker 1: plan on running because in twenty twenty, when Barack asked

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Speaker 1: me to be vice president, which was a tremendous honor,

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Speaker 1: I joined him, which was a great honor. But after

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Speaker 1: that I became professor at the Universe. It's just like

653
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Speaker 1: the timeline is like all fucked up.

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Speaker 3: And then he like brought up Charlottesville and you're like yeah,

655
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Speaker 3: and like all he had to.

656
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Speaker 1: Say was like what I didn't want to run, and

657
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Speaker 1: then Charlottesville happened and that's when I decided. But like

658
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Speaker 1: he's just he can't stay on point, and like there

659
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: are multiple times in this interview where this like eighteen

660
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Speaker 1: year old kid, I don't. I don't know how old Speedy.

661
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Speaker 3: From Speedy No Speedy Speedy.

662
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Speaker 1: Is bailing him out. Like multiple times he's like okay,

663
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Speaker 1: so that's Later, he's asked why Trump has support of

664
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Speaker 1: people in the hip hop community, and like Biden talks

665
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Speaker 1: about his work on civil rights in high school, I think,

666
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Speaker 1: he says, but then like, can we just play the

667
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: ending of this? Yeah, yeah, because it's just he just

668
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: shorts out and the number of folks participating didn't slow

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Speaker 1: down because it didn't reduce.

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Speaker 7: So look, I you know.

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Speaker 1: Trump, there are some people who've made their mind and

672
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Speaker 1: they decided.

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Speaker 3: He said, never mind. But you know, Trump, what is

674
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: it with Speedy doing interviews where people get like the

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Speaker 3: famous Ray Oh he's the Ray J indestructible. Yeah, He's like,

676
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Speaker 3: go ahead, Speedy, break them there, Come on, I don't care.

677
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Speaker 1: And now Joe Biden's out here. But you know Trump,

678
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Speaker 1: pause pause, pause.

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Speaker 3: He did a similar thing at the NAACP convention too.

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Speaker 1: It's just not work like, it's just he's not like

681
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Speaker 1: this is alarming to anybody who's not lying to themselves right.

682
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Speaker 8: Now, anyone who has a pulse.

683
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, so immediately after the assassination

684
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: attempt on Donald Trump. People, we're making this argument that

685
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Speaker 1: well that this stops the attempt to replace Biden in

686
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Speaker 1: its tracks. Like the like they we can't that thing

687
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: is that idea is dead and it doesn't make like

688
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: there there's no argument there, Like the only argument I've

689
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: seen is that Trump is like the attempt to assassination

690
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: is taking up all the media attention. But like, we're

691
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Speaker 1: not asking for you to make a great TV moment,

692
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Speaker 1: We're asking you to do what is best for the

693
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Speaker 1: fucking country. And well, I think.

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Speaker 10: It's the the same thing of like all the dums

695
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 10: are just stuck and pillaying respectability politics. They don't want

696
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 10: to they don't want to rock the boat, like they

697
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Speaker 10: don't want to I don't want to change anything.

698
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but wouldn't when everyone's distracted be a good time

699
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: to admit, like to go ahead and do the thing

700
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: that you need to do with this candidate.

701
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Speaker 8: And they're gonna seize a good idea, right Yeah.

702
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Speaker 3: Well this is the thing with the DNC, right, Like

703
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: they're just so fully controlled by like that donor class

704
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: and they do a great job as we've seen over

705
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: the many years at just outright ignoring public sentiment fully

706
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Speaker 3: and like for some reason, the conversation only got frantic

707
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: until after like the celebrity George Clooney in that New

708
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: York Times breakup op ed was like, Yo, this dude

709
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: is a fucking scale. What are we fucking talking about here?

710
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: And not like it wasn't all the people saying he

711
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: is too old for this ship for like literal years now,

712
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: like you know, like they did everything they could. They

713
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Speaker 3: nuked the primary debate schedule and pretty much forced this

714
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: bad choice on everyone and hardly what I would call

715
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: a you know, like democratic process. Yet we're being like

716
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: beaten to death with this messaging about the fate of

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Speaker 3: our democracy.

718
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Speaker 1: It's really frustrating.

719
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Speaker 3: And it's the DNC, like specifically that is like protecting Biden,

720
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Speaker 3: and that's why we are now hearing talks of like

721
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Speaker 3: a virtual role call to accelerate his nomination right and

722
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Speaker 3: basically have him be the nominee like well over a

723
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: month before the actual convention happens, And if that happened,

724
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Speaker 3: that would effectively just make the actual convention meaningless like

725
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: at the end of August. The whole point, even though

726
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 3: it is very ceremonial. It's like to get a sort

727
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: of you know, it's like we're moving out of the

728
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Speaker 3: primary season and now we're into the general election season.

729
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: Everybody's together, they're united around the candidate. But if they're like, sorry, assholes,

730
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Speaker 3: we did this one behind your backs. This is your

731
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Speaker 3: fucking person. Now you get to hear you know, open'real

732
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Speaker 3: to make a speech or something, it's a very different, different,

733
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: very different vibe. And I think again that's sort of

734
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: how the DNC works. So it's like, we don't want anyone,

735
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Speaker 3: we don't want any debate, We're don't want to discuss anything,

736
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Speaker 3: we don't want any dissent. Because you also think about

737
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Speaker 3: the thirty six delegates that are the uncommitted delegates in

738
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Speaker 3: states that were able to have delegates be uncommitted, like

739
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: in Michigan, Minnesota, other states like that, that was that's

740
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Speaker 3: a big moment for those people to really air their

741
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: grievances about what's happening in Gaza and potentially get some

742
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: kind of concession from the administration or potential new administration.

743
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Speaker 3: But if it's all said and done, there's really nothing

744
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Speaker 3: to be fucking worked out at all, and it just

745
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: becomes like a foregone conclusion, and yeah, they just really

746
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: don't want any open descent on the convention floor. And

747
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: this is just sort of part and parcel of what

748
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 3: they're doing. And now they're just fully just doubling down

749
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: on this terrible fucking hand and demonstrating, you know, the

750
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Speaker 3: lack of awareness that has plagued them.

751
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Speaker 1: They're actively pushing back against some of their biggest donors

752
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: right now, which you know, like that is that's very

753
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: UNDNC is to be like, well, what the fuck you know,

754
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: like your donors, like they're donors who are withholding funding

755
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: from candidates like down you know, down ballot ballot local candidates,

756
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: they're withholding funding from them if they don't openly call

757
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: for Biden to step aside, like they're like you that,

758
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: we need you to do that. I don't know if

759
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: we're getting a you know, outsize amount of attention on

760
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: the people who want him to step aside, because that

761
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: is the more interesting like news angle, and therefore it

762
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: just seems like it's the consensus when it's a small

763
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Speaker 1: portion of the consensus. But it does seem pretty straightforward.

764
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how you run him. I just

765
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Speaker 1: don't know how he continues to run the country and

766
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Speaker 1: run for president.

767
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if like you, if the decline was this

768
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: series between twin and now, that's it gonna look like

769
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Speaker 3: between now, it doesn't get better even twenty twenty six,

770
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Speaker 3: like the mid terms, and then you're fully dealing with

771
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Speaker 3: like a meme president where people like, dude, this guy

772
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: like the spooky ghosts from the Indiana Jones movie in

773
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: a super like No, it's like not gonna work. It's

774
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 3: just a and yeah, it's really It really hinders any

775
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: kind of ground swell of support that could occur if

776
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Speaker 3: there was a candidate where at LEAs people were like, well,

777
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Speaker 3: at least that person could formulate a sentence coherently in

778
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Speaker 3: a debate consistently for the next four years ish.

779
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Biden has said, like his logic is

780
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Speaker 1: that he would only step aside if there was a

781
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Speaker 1: health thing, which, buddy, I don't know like what, but

782
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Speaker 1: I guess he needs the doctors who gave him a

783
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: clean bill of health like a few months ago to

784
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: come back and be like, all right, we're fucking around,

785
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: like you're you're a mess up there. Or He also

786
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: said if he thought there was no path for him

787
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Speaker 1: to win, not if he thought someone else had a

788
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: better path to win. It's just if he thought he

789
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: had no path to win, which is pretty wild. Like,

790
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: so his logic is entirely self centered, Like in that respect,

791
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: it's only the only thing that matters is that he

792
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: has a small chance at winning. They're trying to get

793
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Speaker 1: us all on board with think about the collective good,

794
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Like that's all I'm thinking about, is like what could

795
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: possibly stop Donald Trump from being the next president? Like that,

796
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, that's what everybody else is thinking about. And

797
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: he's like, only only if I can't possibly win, which

798
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: seems just wild.

799
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Speaker 3: Well, this is the mindset that's like so pervasive in DC,

800
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: just in general and politics. It's just you have some

801
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: of these people who are like, I'm gonna die holding

802
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: on to power, and that's like my right, and it

803
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: only leads us to just again, nothing inspiring, more of

804
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: the same and at worst seeing this thing unfold in

805
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: like a really grim way, while they continue to be

806
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: like everything America will end and you're like and we're

807
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 3: counting on okay, right, okay, wait, as.

808
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Speaker 10: Long as they can continue to just bang out the

809
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 10: you need to vote, that's the only way you'll see

810
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 10: change party line. You know, it's just the assumption that

811
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 10: everyone's going to get in the line because it can't.

812
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 3: Get worse, right, right, Yeah, it's yeah. Then that they've

813
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: they've done an amazing job at making this all Like

814
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty I need to look at his website. But

815
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Speaker 3: a while ago, there weren't really there wasn't really anything

816
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: policy wise on their campaign website. It was just like issues,

817
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: which I'm also like, come on, man, like where's the policy, Like,

818
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: let's talk about policy rather than like, yeah, we know

819
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: body autonomy is important. What's your fucking plan? We know

820
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court is fucking corrupt and completely politicized. What's

821
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: your plan? And it sounds like there there he was

822
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Speaker 3: supposed to make an announcement on that about on Monday,

823
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: actually about Supreme Court reforms. But again, the assassination attempt

824
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Speaker 3: completely has sort of derailed the speaking schedule.

825
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Speaker 1: So but they are expecting, like by the time you

826
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Speaker 1: hear this, there might be a plan out. It's supposed

827
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Speaker 1: to be announced fairly soon. He's been working, he's been

828
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Speaker 1: in the lab talking to constitutional scholars at about like

829
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: term limits and you know, various Supreme court reforms, but

830
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Speaker 1: I think it would be pretty tricky to pull off

831
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Speaker 1: based on what I've read to this point.

832
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Speaker 3: But yeah, what that plan is on Joe Biden dot

833
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Speaker 3: com like under issues like it'll be things like protecting

834
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: and strengthening our democracy, growing the middle class, fighting to

835
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Speaker 3: lower costs for working families. It's more just like and

836
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Speaker 3: it's always juxtaposed with like what the campaign believes and

837
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Speaker 3: then what Trump would do, and it's everything like substantives

838
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: like yeah, we need good high paying jobs.

839
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Speaker 1: Okay, talk about how that becomes reality.

840
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: It's like, we we believe in good high paying jobs,

841
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: and it's like but Donald Trump doesn't, Oh okay, give

842
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Rather than just merely again they've

843
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: this is like from the curse. It is the gift

844
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Speaker 3: in the curse and running against Yeah, it's the gift

845
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: in the curse of running against Donald Trump. As we've

846
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: seen is that the entire DNC strategy is just to

847
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: merely just gesture to the Republicans as their entire platform

848
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: and be like, well that no, and it's just it's

849
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: completely that well.

850
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Has run pretty dry. At this point, I feel like, yeah,

851
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: all right, well, let's take a quick break and we'll

852
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: come back and we'll talk about twisters.

853
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 11: Okay, and we're back, and I do I am curious

854
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Speaker 11: as someone who has kind of worked in the fields

855
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 11: of medical bullshit, like what your diagnosis would be for

856
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 11: why our current information ecosystem is so bad.

857
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's the Internet, for sure, but

858
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: I also feel like there's this underlying hyper capitalism ethos

859
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: where like Goop can be completely full of shit but

860
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: still get like good press because it's got like because

861
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: it's making money basically because it's like I don't you know,

862
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: business insider, The business insider of it all is like, yeah,

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00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: she's made a great product and that's cool. It's called yeah.

864
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Speaker 1: And so there's just like so many ways to launder

865
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Speaker 1: this pseudo scientific bullshit that I feel like used to

866
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: be relegated to the back of like magazines, and now

867
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Speaker 1: is like, you know, a big, multi billion dollar brand.

868
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the dodgy ads from the back of the

869
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: magazine are now are like medical truths that we have accepted.

870
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this is I don't think you're misreading that.

871
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: I think that is kind of what I'm seeing as well.

872
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean grifts, medical grifts, I mean they've been around forever,

873
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: but and they reinvent themselves all the time. Like I

874
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: got interviewed about Gwyneth Paltrow's rectal ozone therapy and I

875
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: had to look into that and I was like, oh,

876
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily new. I mean, it's just one way

877
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: or another. Yeah, yeah, don't do it as long and

878
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: the short of it. But like copy enemas, enemas to

879
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: detox and clans, all these things that that people try

880
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: to do, They're like urine therapy, drinking urine. These are

881
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: things that always come back in one form or another.

882
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Like Napoleon was doing that.

883
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, And and it is getting worse. And

884
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that is sort of the

885
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: direct to consumer marketing that you see from like these people,

886
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: these influencers online or people selling supplements and that sort

887
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: of thing. So and these people have like zero sense

888
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: of medical ethics because most of them aren't doctors, and

889
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: the ones that are medical professionals don't seem to care

890
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: that much. I will also put some of the blame

891
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: on us as doctors, because you know, we talk about

892
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: placebo and you know usually in the past doctors Beck, yeah,

893
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: placibo find if it works great, and that's true. I

894
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: usually don't care, but we let a lot of stuff

895
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: that seemed inconsequential go in the past and not fight.

896
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: Ah.

897
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: So Gwyneth Paltrow wants to put a jade egg in

898
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: her vagina, what's the the harm? You know, they want

899
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: to they want to take this whatever pill X or supplement.

900
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: What's the harm? It's a low risk thing, and the

901
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: truth of it is what we have seen. I think

902
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: there's a direct line between people doing that and thinking, well, Okay,

903
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: this alternative therapy seems to it seems truthy enough, and

904
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: then they start to believe that more and more, and

905
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: then when it comes to something that's maybe a more real,

906
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 2: like proven medical treatment or say a vaccine, they don't

907
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: know who to trust because there's so much out there,

908
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: so much information out there that seems contradictory, that we sort.

909
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Of letl that.

910
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: Like now if someone who is an influencer who you know,

911
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: we never like addressed before, is now saying something a

912
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: little more serious and consequential like don't get your vaccine,

913
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: then that now we have a real problem. And I

914
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: think we have to now be more aggressive about these things.

915
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: Like even if it's a low risk thing for most

916
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: people to take supplements, and for most people it is,

917
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: it's low risk. Not for everyone. They put like you know,

918
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of like we joked about, like lead in

919
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: these things you'll see, but like there's things in there.

920
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: That can hurt deliver. There's even like liver cleanses that

921
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: actually have ingredients in them that can hurt deliver because

922
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: it's completely unregulated. There's very little regulation that goes into this,

923
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: and so you know, if we're not careful about the

924
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: little things, then they can spiral. They can sort of

925
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: like snowball into bigger and bigger problems down the road

926
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: and really help erode a lack in real medical treatment,

927
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: proven evidence based science treatment, you know. And so I

928
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: think it's a lot on us as doctors. We have

929
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: to be more vigilant about this stuff and call out

930
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: bullshit even if it seems relatively and consequential.

931
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you.

932
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: Think there's another part too, because I mean, I'm sure

933
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: this has something to do with it, because our medical system,

934
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: especially here in the United States, is so bad that

935
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: so many people end up slipping through the cracks or

936
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: having a doctor that isn't taking them seriously. And you know,

937
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: small issues become things that are life threatening very quickly.

938
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: And then and then anecdotally that gets around it's like,

939
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: well the doctors don't what the fuck they're talking about

940
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: and shit like that. How much of like sort of

941
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 3: the you know, trying to resolve all this is also

942
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 3: just sort of on having like a better medical system

943
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: where people feel like, ah, this this seems more dependable

944
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: because I feel like a lot of distress someone it

945
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: comes from someone with like an anecdote about something that

946
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 3: happened to someone they know. And that's why now it's like, ah,

947
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: well they're just saying shit or whatever. They don't think

948
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: they're gonna miss stuff. That's why I do my own

949
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: research or et cetera, or whatever you know, thing that

950
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: people want to say when it comes to that.

951
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: First of all, how dare you?

952
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, our medical system is a wreck. We pay more

953
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: and we get worse quality than we should. And then

954
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: a lot of countries who are supposed to be are

955
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: sort of at our level are doing so absolutely and

956
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: people are looking for other means to get care and treatment.

957
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: I I mean, I'm always a little worried about doing

958
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: this because people, you know, I'm worried about giving direct

959
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: medical care and treatment online because you can't do that

960
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: you don't know somebody online. But we do need to

961
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: create a better system so people don't have to turn

962
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: two things online. They don't have to like look for

963
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: a doctor or someone online recommending a treatment or going

964
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: to some sort of like you know app where they

965
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: can order like psychiatric meds. And they should have better

966
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: care directly from their medical offices that they go to

967
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: or hopefully have the insurance to even go to see

968
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: a doctor. So yeah, no, I mean a big part

969
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: of this I totally acknowledge is based on the fact

970
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: that our system is very dysfunctional, if not broken, and

971
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: all on top of that, something else you mentioned is

972
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: true too. I mean, people oftentimes feel like they're not

973
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: being listened to by their doctor, and I can see that,

974
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: I understand it. I'm sure it happens constantly all the time,

975
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 2: and that's hard. I mean a lot of I feel

976
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: for the doctors too in that regards, because most of

977
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: these primary care doctors are extraordinarily overworked, right, and they're

978
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: swamped with email after email after email, and they can't

979
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 2: really put in the energy and the time to each

980
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: one to make that person feel heard. That doesn't mean

981
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: they shouldn't try. It doesn't mean that that's not something

982
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: we need to do. But yeah, I know a lot

983
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: of people who don't feel like they're listened to by

984
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: the medical profession. Sometimes that can have devastating consequences. Oftentimes not,

985
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: but sometimes it can be devastating.

986
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: And since you did concede that point, are you willing

987
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: to say that electrolytes are something we need because I

988
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: see that it's one of the top sellings When I

989
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: look at supplements, like I'm looking at the like Amazon Health,

990
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: I feel like, looking at the top charted products on Amazon,

991
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: it's a good idea of what people think they need

992
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: for their bodies, and electrolytes is like one of the

993
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: high everyone's fucking on electrolytes right now. Yes, just because

994
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: we don't want to drink water. I'm like, it's just

995
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: weird to me. I'm like, isn't that just that's the

996
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: salt they put in gatorade.

997
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: It's because we've lost our way and nobody wants to

998
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: drink gatorade anymore because it wants to work.

999
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: No one wants to work, and no one wants to

1000
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: drink Gatorade.

1001
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1002
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, water isn't that sexy anymore, people like I mean,

1003
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: it has to be like death Liquid or whatever the

1004
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: name of that company, different than like it just officially

1005
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: became a geriatric So like this is that's a real

1006
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: that's a real thing. That's a the electrolyte thing. It

1007
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: can be useful for people like serious athletes, but for

1008
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: most of us, regular water mart of hydration like that exactly,

1009
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: You're not most people are not becoming like hyponetrimik when

1010
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: they're like doing their exercise. But I mean again, it's

1011
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 2: one of those things where for a long time we're

1012
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: just like, oh, okay, whatever, smart water, that's great, and

1013
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: it exists right right, And now now I mean again.

1014
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: It's it's it's all. I'm starting to feel more and

1015
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: more like it's a slippery slope. The more we accept

1016
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: sort of like unnecessary stuff, the worst the outcomes down

1017
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: the road become so and then we end up with

1018
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: someone like RFK, who actually is like.

1019
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: A legitimate, you know, candidate. I mean, he's not gonna win,

1020
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: but still he's actually out there and people are hearing

1021
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: and listening to his garbage. And but I I'm sorry,

1022
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: I really dislike him, so I shouldn't have brought him up.

1023
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: But that's how we get people like that in.

1024
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: Our lives, right, Yeah, from not being like no, you're wrong,

1025
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: go leave leave, Yeah exactly, No, No I'm telling you.

1026
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm telling you about these vaccines.

1027
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: Man, you're like, no, you're not telling this ship Yeah, yeah,

1028
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Like the doctor Oz like Wager, like you know,

1029
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: his argument to himself seemed to be that it was

1030
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: all worth it because he was educating people on stuff

1031
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have normally like been educated about, and it

1032
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: was fine if he like flubbed the margins a little

1033
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: bit or like told a couple lies here and there,

1034
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: and then you know, we see where that ends. And

1035
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: I feel like the whole that's kind of what you're

1036
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: describing just across the board a.

1037
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: Little bit, that's exactly it. And I feel a little

1038
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: bit for for him, because I you know, if you're

1039
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: doing a show every day and you have to just

1040
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: start like coming up with shit medically, at some point,

1041
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: some of the stuff's going to get questionable. But I mean,

1042
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: you know, he should he's supposedly, he was supposedly a

1043
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: good doctor. You know, he should that, Like you can't

1044
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: lose that, and if you do, you have to sep

1045
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: congress doctor Oz, you know, just the Oz at that point.

1046
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, but that that is exactly the

1047
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened. He started out with him talking

1048
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: about like poop and like he was a guy who

1049
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: like taught you, like all of our mother is, like

1050
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: what a normal poop shape is supposed to be like

1051
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: on the Oprah Winfrey Show, and that was like fine, cool,

1052
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: we talked about firebars, but that was a very slow

1053
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: and gradual descent into nonsense and gibberish.

1054
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah to him saying the vagina is like a self

1055
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: cleaning oven, and you're like, what is going on? You're

1056
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: saying this many times out loud, Okay.

1057
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: It's weird when he says it.

1058
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is like self cleaning oven. Like what

1059
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: who are you, like a Maytag repair person or a doctor?

1060
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: Well, well, I'll tell you this. He gets that line

1061
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: maybe from Jen Gunter, who is a very famous and

1062
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: I think a really great obi Guinde, And that is

1063
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: a response to like trying to tell people you don't

1064
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: necessarily need to be doing cleanses. It comes down to

1065
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: the whole clensing so so in that sense, I think

1066
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: that's where he got it. But then he is one

1067
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: of these guys who will, like, you know, he'll have

1068
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: people on who are on the fringes of the medical

1069
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: world and want to sell things, and he gives them

1070
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: air and he's given them lots of attention he did

1071
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: when he had a show. So yeah, he also sucks

1072
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: all the doctors. I can't think of really one that's

1073
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: famous online that I'm trying or TV.

1074
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: That's not doctor feel Good. Yeah, he is the one

1075
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: to call doctor Pat, the aforementioned doctor Pepper. It's pretty Yeah,

1076
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: it helps helps the healthy nerve, helps you feel great,

1077
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: did great work overseas? Yeah. Is there a subject that

1078
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: you think we've missed that is just something that you

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Speaker 1: come up against like either a bullshit belief or I

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Speaker 1: know I've heard you talk about you know. The answer

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Speaker 1: is often like, we don't actually know on a lot

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Speaker 1: of things. You know, something that most people think we

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Speaker 1: definitively know that's more of a mystery, or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably a lot, but I will say that,

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Speaker 2: you know, because I'm a gast entrologist. One of the

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Speaker 2: things that I get asked a lot about our people

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Speaker 2: will talk me about our coffee enemas and that's the

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Speaker 2: constant bane of my existence. And if I can use

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Speaker 2: this as a platform to tell people to not get them,

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Speaker 2: I will. I mean, coffee is great. I love coffee.

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Speaker 2: I think there's actual health benefits to coffee. There's actually

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Speaker 2: some decent ones. We actually did an episode of our

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Speaker 2: show with one of the weirder ones with a great

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Speaker 2: hepatologist named Elliott Tapper, prop the musician and podcaster and

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Speaker 2: Deepak Choper's brother who is a doctor as well, in

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Speaker 2: studies coffee in a weirdest and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: health benefits. Yes, it was an interesting one, and in

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Speaker 2: that episode we really covered a lot of the health

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Speaker 2: benefits of it. But there is no added benefit to

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Speaker 2: putting coffee up your butt and potential harm and not

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Speaker 2: just if it's hot. It could be some chemical thing

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Speaker 2: in there that irritates your cold as well. So don't

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Speaker 2: do that, don't don't do like that, don't do cleanses.

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Speaker 3: I think the first person I heard talk about it

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Speaker 3: like it was a celect. I feel like it was

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Speaker 3: like Janet Jackson or some ship coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're like somehow I remember like in the nineties, it

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Speaker 3: was like this one thing, We're like, dude, that celebrity

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Speaker 3: is just boofing, just gallons of coffee in there butt

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Speaker 3: and that's I think the new way to.

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Speaker 1: Live or something.

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Speaker 3: And it sort of, yeah, became very very popular, very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So do we just stick to only putting alcoholic beverages

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Speaker 1: up our ass? No coffee?

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Speaker 2: And we ticked away your joy? Yeah, there was an

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Speaker 2: a monster, guys. And I'm I do have to say,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I always have to be looks. I'm

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Speaker 2: not totally against things going into butts, Okay, I'm just saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't put coffee work and.

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Speaker 3: How you might think you will, Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure,

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Speaker 3: all right, and that's just like your medical opinion.

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Speaker 1: Man. All right, that's gonna do it. For this week's

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Speaker 1: weekly Zeitgeist, please like and review the show If you like,

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Speaker 1: the show means the world of Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. Bye at Doctor and f