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Speaker 1: A few poll questions to get the show started today. Taylor,

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Speaker 1: please put it on the pole at Stegot seven ninety

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Speaker 1: one X when Luca puld A Hammy was Nico smiling

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Speaker 1: on the inside. Also, are you a bench below the

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Speaker 1: court guy? Yes? Or no? Hm? I don't like it. It

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Speaker 1: scares me. Also put this on the pole, tailor. Is

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Speaker 1: Lloy Vaught sitting around going, hey, what about us? Oh? Yes?

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Speaker 3: In the other Michigan here double double machine?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, what do you mean? What about us?

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Speaker 4: Is nobody mentioning Lloyd Vaught or that team in particular?

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Speaker 4: I feel like that team has been mentioned, just the.

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Speaker 1: Fab five getting all the you know, praise. They didn't

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Speaker 1: win anything, Lloyd Vaught, Terry Mills, Rameil Robinson, Glenn Rice.

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Speaker 1: They won a national championship. No one talks about it.

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Speaker 3: It was the first question on that pole.

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Speaker 1: When Luca pulled a hammy. Was Nico smiling on the inside?

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Speaker 3: Does anybody know what Nico's doing anymore?

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Speaker 1: I smiling on the inside.

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Speaker 4: I just told you I saw a video of him

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Speaker 4: at an airport and he's got a fly commercial these days,

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Speaker 4: and so that's not the greatest. I'm pretty sure he's

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Speaker 4: just trying to be in hiding as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: Last poll here Justin Jackson going to join us, but

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Speaker 1: Monti Jones going to join us an hour number two.

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Speaker 1: You could spend a day with one group, the Fab

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Speaker 1: five or the starting five from last night's National Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Who you got Fab five?

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Speaker 2: Currently?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry for the follow up. So this is the

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Speaker 3: currently this?

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Speaker 1: Then this is the modern day Fab five? What happened

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Speaker 1: last night? Those are five guys all came through the

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Speaker 1: transfer portal playing their first season together. It's the modern

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Speaker 1: day equivalent of the Fab five. We're never going to

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Speaker 1: see five freshmen come in at the same time and

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Speaker 1: make a run to the championship game and then lose.

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Speaker 1: We're never going to see that again. But you had

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Speaker 1: five guys come together through the portal from different schools,

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Speaker 1: playing in their first season together, and they went on

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Speaker 1: to win a national championship.

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Speaker 4: Instead of the Fab Five, since they're transfers, can we

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Speaker 4: call them the trans five?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think we can do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, can we I don't think we can.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous Gape eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That

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Speaker 1: is eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox again.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jackson going to join us because Taylor's producing the show.

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Speaker 1: He's producing his show tomorrow. Willie Randolph, Wow, I would

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Speaker 1: love Willy Randolph. I know you.

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Speaker 5: Anybody got a number for him? I do Willy Randolph.

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Speaker 5: I graduated with his daughter. He was the commencement speaker

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Speaker 5: at my graduation.

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Speaker 1: I wish you hadn't told them. Let me seriously, so

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Speaker 1: Willie Randolph, I was joking seriously going to be on

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Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. Is it your thoughts last night? Dan

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Speaker 1: Hurley going for three national championships over the last four years.

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Speaker 1: He still has two. It's pretty good. Made it to

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Speaker 1: the final game three times in four years. I'm not

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Speaker 1: certain how many people like him. But the alternative is,

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Speaker 1: people find to be very boring.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so Yukon has done so much winning overall,

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Speaker 3: Were going for three out of four because I said this.

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Speaker 4: And thank you guys for not noticing and you know,

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Speaker 4: picking up my my mistakes. But I said at some

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Speaker 4: point about the Gators not repeating. I think I said

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Speaker 3: And so my bad that retroactively.

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Speaker 4: You know what's crazy is last night felt like a

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Speaker 4: game that Yukon was gonna steal, yes and forever be

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Speaker 4: that championship team, right, the team that had the grit

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Speaker 3: But Michigan was ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Like when I said this yesterday, I regret sounding ridiculously

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Speaker 1: To be fair to us, we were fresh off the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Sweet sixteen victory. We thought they were the best

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Speaker 3: We were drunk off of Arizona. Let's be real.

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Speaker 4: And then then you start realizing, oh, no, Michigan has

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Speaker 4: been the best team in this tournament the entire time.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: And I remember back in two thousand and was it

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Speaker 4: the Gators back to back championships and Jason Williams White

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Speaker 4: and this is the Gators that weren't supposed to win

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Speaker 4: it that year. They played George Washington et cetera second

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Speaker 4: And that's because I was watching intently, right, If I

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Speaker 4: for this tournament, Michigan was so obvious.

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Speaker 3: It was so obvious. They're huge.

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Speaker 4: They can't like, it doesn't matter what your bigs are,

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Speaker 3: And then they have enough.

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Speaker 4: Guard play, enough shooting and enough talent around them where

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Speaker 4: it's just like it's.

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Speaker 3: A better version of last year's Gators.

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Speaker 6: Marrow looked like he was eight foot five out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so big.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you mentioned the elevated courts or whatever, the benches

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Speaker 3: Vanderbilt has that right at their at their home arena.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I hate it at Vanderbilt because the benches

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Speaker 4: are on the baseline and it's just like I gotta

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Speaker 3: To my coach.

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Speaker 4: But that somehow, some way makes the players look like

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Speaker 4: well obviously reasons, I guess now that you think about it,

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Speaker 4: that they're on a stage and then you throw in

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Speaker 4: their height and they look even taller.

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Speaker 3: Somehow.

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Speaker 1: I was terrified for Tracy Wolfson. I was anyone else

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Speaker 4: Doesn't she do the thing every year where she takes

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Speaker 3: Just laugh out loud funny. The discrepancy.

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Speaker 6: So Stu, you know who I feel bad for today.

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Speaker 6: I feel bad for Reid On Yukon. Yeah, because he

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Speaker 6: Michigan and Yukon now and in his four years, those

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Speaker 1: He has zero. Just can't get it right, I mean,

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Speaker 6: He was great on the board, so I don't know

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Speaker 4: He was so nice about his situation and he was

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Speaker 4: like whenever he talks about he's like Noel Will to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Love those guys. He had a great chance that Yukon

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Speaker 3: looked amazing, was huge, and the Duke comeback win only

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Speaker 1: But that seems impossible that he would be on both

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Speaker 1: those teams. They won three national championships in four years

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Speaker 4: Just flip his time with both teams and he'd have

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Speaker 4: three championships right now.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm reading mikeyy correctly, he is the problem.

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Speaker 1: Mikeyye doesn't care how well he played last night, doesn't

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Speaker 1: the problem. If he's on your team, you lose.

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Speaker 7: There you go future, Nick.

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Speaker 1: Jet, I mean whatever.

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Speaker 6: To further your point, Michigan was the best team all tournament.

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Speaker 6: But to a lot of people that watch college basketball,

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Speaker 6: Michigan was the best team all year. And in a

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Speaker 6: a point where it does feel like an extra reason

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Speaker 4: Say, like, just dating back to last year, for example,

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Speaker 4: This was absolutely one of those years from start to finish,

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Speaker 4: the three losses where almost nothing, you know, just the

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter the opponent, this team has like a fifteen

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Speaker 6: Stu, I have a ridiculous stat here. Okay, Michigan last

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Speaker 6: night became the first team since two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, listen to your point about who wins

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Speaker 1: win six one game scenarios. If we were playing Michigan

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Speaker 1: But in a one game scenario, anything could happen, and rarely,

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Speaker 1: and Hurley said this, does the best team in college

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Speaker 1: in a one game scenario, Villanova could slow it down,

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Speaker 1: rarely get the best team winning the NCAA tournament. It's odd.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like coaching a little bit

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Speaker 4: more important in college basketball in terms of winning the championship, yes,

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Speaker 4: your coach has to have you absolutely ready, and Taylor

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Speaker 4: the more I think about the Michael Malone hire, the

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Speaker 1: Michael Malone.

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Speaker 6: Malone sometimes, just because it's a little it's a lot

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Speaker 4: So is nobody saying what I think I'm about to

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Speaker 3: Hey, Alex Cara Ben hit a shot man.

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Speaker 3: In the last game.

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Speaker 1: Taylor. The sea in Caravan stands for clank. He's been

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Speaker 1: I mean he went to three title games in four

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Speaker 1: He's a twenty seventeen National Champion ACC Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: CONSETTSUS First Team All American played at Carolina. Taylor loves him.

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Speaker 1: He loves Taylor, and he's doing media work for Phil MBA.

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Speaker 7: Man, I'm just filling in whenever they need me.

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Speaker 1: Mane. I see your jersey from college hanging right behind

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Speaker 9: It's somewhere up there. Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you

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Speaker 7: So I'm definitely blessed for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Taylor, would you like to tell Justin where your

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, So I've won at Pantanna Bob's and then

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Speaker 7: That It's a legend, so I can see it. I

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the National Championship Game, but

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Speaker 1: I know Taylor wants me to ask you about Mike Maloney.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. It's a totally on North Carolina thing to do,

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Speaker 9: I mean, I was shocked at first, but then whenever

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Speaker 7: We'll definitely take them.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of people are excited to kind

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Speaker 9: they win, and they even go on to lose by

442
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Speaker 9: thirty to Illinois, I don't think we're having the discussion

443
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Speaker 9: of Mike Malone being the head coach, right, I think

444
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 9: we're talking about what transfers are we going to get in,

445
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Speaker 9: what recruits are coming in, that whole sort of thing.

446
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Speaker 9: And so I think that's the difficult part of it was.

447
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 9: I think the VCU game for a lot of people,

448
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Speaker 9: especially in the decision making process, kind of saw that

449
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Speaker 9: as you know, do we make the decision to go

450
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Speaker 9: in a different route or do we bring them back?

451
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Speaker 9: And obviously you know they decided to go in a

452
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Speaker 9: different route.

453
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Speaker 6: Justin when they're talking about candidates for the North Carolina job.

454
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Speaker 6: One of the things that always comes up is they

455
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 6: have to understand what it means to be a part

456
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Speaker 6: of the Carolina family, even if they're not a part

457
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 6: of that Carolina family directly. What does that Carolina family

458
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Speaker 6: look like to you and kind of mean to you?

459
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Speaker 9: I mean, it looks different for me and probably the

460
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 9: majority of former players, right it looks like going back

461
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 9: in the summer and playing pickup. It looks like going

462
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 9: back for camp, playing in the camp game versus the

463
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 9: current players coming back for games throughout the season and

464
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 9: kind of feeling the love and walking through that tunnel

465
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Speaker 9: and feeling that that, to me, is what Carolina family

466
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 9: is about. But it also goes deeper than that, right,

467
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Speaker 9: Like I'll never forget my first time playing against Marvin

468
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 9: Williams in the NBA.

469
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Speaker 7: And I had really met.

470
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Speaker 9: Marvin probably once or twice before playing against him, and

471
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Speaker 9: you know, we met up at half court during warm ups,

472
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 9: and it was as if we had interacted a ton before, right,

473
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 9: And so it just goes deeper than that, And so

474
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Speaker 9: I think that's something that can translate. Obviously, he doesn't

475
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 9: have a connection other than his daughter playing volleyball, but

476
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Speaker 9: I think it can go, it can stay the same

477
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 9: even with somebody new at the head.

478
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Speaker 4: Justin you had really high praise there for Roy Williams. Obviously,

479
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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would argue with you. I'm curious

480
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Speaker 4: from what you've learned or what you've figured out or

481
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: knew from Michael Malone, what things that Roy did especially

482
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: well that translated to the college students at the time.

483
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: Can Michael sort of try to replicate or do you

484
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 4: think he has in his coaching bag if.

485
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Speaker 9: You will, well, I mean you talk about I mean,

486
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 9: he's a genius when it comes to x's and o's, right,

487
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 9: like you talk about those Denver Nuggets teams that he coached.

488
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 9: Obviously he got lucky having a guy like Jokic and

489
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 9: then a guy like Jamal Murray kind of being the

490
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Speaker 9: two guys at the top.

491
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Speaker 7: But that also goes back to coaching as well.

492
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Speaker 9: He was there from the beginning with those guys, right,

493
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 9: he put things around around them, a system and things

494
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Speaker 9: like that.

495
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Speaker 3: Finding how good Yolkic is, right, that's a huge.

496
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Speaker 7: Part of it, exactly.

497
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Speaker 9: And nowadays if you talk about talent scouting or being

498
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Speaker 9: able to find good talent in the transfer portal and

499
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 9: things like that. You've got to have an eye for that, right.

500
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 9: You don't have guys that are just staying three four

501
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 9: years like Coach Williams was obviously blessed to have and

502
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Speaker 9: guy stayed because it was coach Williams in North Carolina.

503
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 9: But you don't have that necessarily now and so you

504
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 9: got to be able to in you know, a few

505
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 9: weeks really nowadays, you got to be able to say, Okay,

506
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 9: you know what, that fits what I'm trying to do.

507
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 9: This fits what I'm trying to do. And I think

508
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 9: Mike Malone did that great with Denver, and it's funny.

509
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Speaker 9: You know, people have talked about how he's like an

510
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 9: old school coach, right and how he holds everybody accountable.

511
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 9: That was one of the things that coach Williams always

512
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 9: did right. It didn't matter if it was me the

513
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Speaker 9: ACC Player of the Year my junior year, or if

514
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 9: it was a walk on in practice right that didn't

515
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 9: do something correct. He was going to hold whoever it

516
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Speaker 9: was accountable because it was a bigger goal.

517
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Speaker 7: I think that's.

518
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Speaker 9: Something that obviously, you know, you got to kind of

519
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 9: taper back a little bit. You're not dealing with grow men,

520
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 9: you're dealing with kids and people trying to figure it out.

521
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 9: But I think that's something that can translate well to

522
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Speaker 9: to you know, kind of coming into this program of Hey,

523
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Speaker 9: we've got a certain standard and a system that we're

524
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Speaker 9: running and there's no letdowns from that, and that kind

525
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 9: of falls into the Carolina way or the family that

526
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Speaker 9: you want to talk about.

527
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Speaker 5: Justin you mentioned how he's trying to find people that

528
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Speaker 5: what he wants to do. How much of it is

529
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Speaker 5: bringing in the right people to do what you want

530
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Speaker 5: to do versus adapting what you do to what you have.

531
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Speaker 7: I think it's a good mix.

532
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Speaker 9: Honestly, and that's kind of why I think when you

533
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 9: look at the people that he's going to bring it

534
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 9: around him, I think it's important to have people that

535
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 9: have been around the college space for a while right,

536
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 9: have seen the differences and the changes and the transitions

537
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 9: that we've seen through college basketball.

538
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Speaker 7: Well.

539
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Speaker 9: Also, I wouldn't mind seeing an NBA guy come in

540
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 9: as far as player development or things like that. I

541
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 9: think that's really key as well. And so I think

542
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 9: you know, when you talk about him as a coach,

543
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 9: it's going to be just as important the staff and

544
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Speaker 9: the people that come in around him. And it also

545
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 9: goes as far as you know, who are we bringing

546
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Speaker 9: in from the transfer portal, right like now with the

547
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Speaker 9: freshman and transfer portal, what fits what he's looking for,

548
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 9: but also what maybe we still have there when he

549
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 9: comes in or things like that. So it's I think

550
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Speaker 9: that's going to be the big thing to see, is

551
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Speaker 9: that transition for him, but also the help that he

552
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Speaker 9: has with him through that transition.

553
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Speaker 6: Justin any Carolina fans that are skeptical about the hire,

554
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Speaker 6: how much of that skepticism do you think comes from

555
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 6: what they just saw with Bill Belichick in football all

556
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Speaker 6: of it.

557
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 7: I was waiting for Bill Belichick question.

558
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Speaker 9: I mean, the tough part about where college sports is

559
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 9: in general, right is you have to have the money,

560
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 9: period like that.

561
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Speaker 7: That's just the way it is.

562
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Speaker 9: And I don't know. Once again, I'm not in any

563
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Speaker 9: decision making rooms. I'm not any really any conversations when

564
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 9: it comes to decision making for any athletics at North Carolina.

565
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 9: But if you don't have the money, and you don't

566
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 9: have the money to pay players, then you could have

567
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 9: a Bill Belichick in the seat and it just might

568
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 9: not translate, right, and so I think that's another aspect

569
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 9: of not only the staff that you know, Mike Malone

570
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 9: brings in, but also making sure that we have the

571
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Speaker 9: money to be able to divvy out to these players

572
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Speaker 9: that maybe they're wanting to go after to now bring

573
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 9: in the talent. Now, the coaching takes over once you

574
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 9: have the talent sitting in the locker room. And so

575
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 9: I think that's a big part. I mean, somebody asked me,

576
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Speaker 9: I think it was this morning, actually, they asked me

577
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Speaker 9: about kind of the whole brand conversation, right, and when

578
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 9: you talk about the brand of these different teams North Carolina,

579
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 9: Duke Kansas, everybody's.

580
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 7: Taking a hit, right.

581
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Speaker 9: The brands aren't the same anymore, because the number one

582
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Speaker 9: conversation that you're having is the money aspect. How much

583
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 9: can I get? You know, like where can I sign

584
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 9: on the dot line for this? And then we'll talk

585
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 9: about okay, you know what, I like that interlocking and

586
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 9: see right, like that's that's just the reality of college

587
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 9: sports now. And so I think if we have that

588
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 9: in place and we have good people around coach Malone,

589
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 9: I think his ability to coach and his ability to

590
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 9: hold people accountable and have a certain standard.

591
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Speaker 7: I think we could. I think we could be right

592
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 7: back to where we need to be.

593
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Speaker 4: Who would have thought Bill Belichick would have staying on

594
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: the university. Rewind a year and a half, he'd be like, Wow, yes,

595
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: Now it's just like.

596
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Speaker 1: So justin if I told you you could hand pick

597
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: any coach you wanted to be the next head coach

598
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: at North Carolina, anyone, and it's your decision and yours alone,

599
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: who you're going with, who's doing it better than everyone else?

600
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: Right now? Oh?

601
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 9: Man, See, that's a tough that's a tough question because

602
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 9: now that I'm in the media space, I have to

603
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 9: try to be as unbiased as possible.

604
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: It depends on.

605
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 7: The guy.

606
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 9: The guy down the road at Duke is doing an

607
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 9: unbelievable job, right I would never say, hey, we need

608
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 9: to go, we need to go grab him.

609
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Be careful, soul.

610
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 7: It's a dangerous it's a dangerous game.

611
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: It is.

612
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Speaker 9: But but when I like when when the conversations were

613
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 9: happening with coaches, A guy that I loved is t

614
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 9: j Alsburg Iowa State, Like, I love what he does there.

615
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 9: Obviously you talk about Dusty Mayheck, he just won I

616
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 9: see the Michigan hat.

617
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 7: He just won a national championship. Right, He's a.

618
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 9: Really really good coach. Tommy Lloyd, I love Tommy Lloyd.

619
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 9: So there was good options and all the names that

620
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 9: were thrown around. And I also see from their perspective

621
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Speaker 9: of hey, I'm getting paid, I'm having the nil come

622
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 9: in where I'm at. I can build a program up

623
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 9: exactly how I want it to be, and I'm not

624
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 9: having to come in kind of with the circumstances that

625
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 9: North Carolina has been in. So I can see it

626
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 9: from both sides. But those coaches, I mean, I don't

627
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 9: think you could have went wrong with any of them.

628
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 9: And I think, you know, the Mike Malone higher, I

629
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 9: don't think it's a panic or a settle by any means.

630
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 9: So I think it's it's exciting to have him in.

631
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 9: But those are some of the coaches I liked.

632
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Speaker 1: Has Michigan entered the all time best team conversation?

633
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 9: Who team construction? I think it has to be in

634
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 9: the conversation. I will say that, wow. I mean the

635
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 9: tough thing about the game against Yukon, Michigan really didn't

636
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 9: even play well and they still want a national championship, right,

637
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 9: And so I think that you know, when you talk

638
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 9: about it. For me, the best team ever assembled is

639
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 9: and in my mind is that Kentucky team that we

640
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 9: played against, that Platoon team. They didn't even win a

641
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 9: national championship, but that team was loaded from one to ten.

642
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 7: But I mean you have.

643
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 9: To you look at some of these I mean they

644
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 9: went on a streak where they beat teamed by forty,

645
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 9: like five or six games in a row and things

646
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 9: like that, So I mean they got to be I

647
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 9: guess you got to put them in a conversation, but man,

648
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 9: they were a gauntlet. I loved Arizona and what they

649
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 9: did to Arizona I think kind of solidified that they

650
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 9: were the best team in college basketball at that point.

651
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Stu.

652
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Speaker 6: What you might not be aware of is that me

653
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 6: and Justin used to play video games together and I

654
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 6: would use Justin as a sounding board for some of

655
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 6: my takes. So, Justin, I have an unpopular opinion when

656
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: it comes to March Madness that I want to run

657
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 6: by you one shining moment, the most overrated tradition in

658
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 6: all in all of sports blasphemy.

659
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 9: I mean, it's probably the most overrated thing for the

660
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 9: teams that don't win it. I will say that for

661
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Speaker 9: the teams, the teams that don't win it, I don't

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Speaker 9: want to hear none of that. The year that we

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Speaker 9: lost in the championship, turn it off, please.

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Speaker 1: There were no shining moments for you, right, I'm with you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, But the team that won it, it is something

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Speaker 9: that you've always seen and you know, you kind of

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Speaker 9: fall into that aspect and it's it's pretty special once

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Speaker 9: they show you at the end of it. But I mean,

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Speaker 9: it's not a bad it's not a bad take when

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Speaker 9: it comes to the teams that you know, when it

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Speaker 9: comes to Yukon walking off the floor, that's not a

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Speaker 9: terrible take.

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Speaker 4: Can I go back real quick? What was that best

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Speaker 4: team ever that you said? Which Kentucky team?

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Speaker 7: What was that?

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Speaker 9: I think that was my freshman year twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 9: I think they lost to Wisconsin. Yeah, Booker played deep,

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Speaker 9: book played like fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 7: I mean they had guys everywhere.

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Speaker 9: They had the Harrison Twins, they had Cat, they had

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Speaker 9: Willie cally Stein, they and everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're in the media game now, like you

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Speaker 1: got you understand what they're doing with one shining moment right,

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Speaker 1: it's just to keep you around till midnight. You get it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's.

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Speaker 9: You got to keep you got to keep people locked

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Speaker 9: in as as best as you can.

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Speaker 7: So I definitely understand from that perspective too.

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Speaker 1: But there are no shoting moments. Only one team as

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Speaker 1: a shining moment, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean even the teams maybe that like had

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Speaker 9: crazy buzzer beaters or crazy moments in the tournament that

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Speaker 9: are at home watching.

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Speaker 7: It like doesn't have It's not the same.

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Speaker 9: It's not the same feeling as you being up there

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Speaker 9: on the stage watching it.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 7: It's just not you know, it doesn't connect the same.

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Speaker 1: You play, Taylor and video games. Who wins more you? Taylor?

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Speaker 9: You know what's crazy. We talked about it. I've got

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Speaker 9: two kids now and me and Vip have not played.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's been a it's been a minute at

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Speaker 9: this point, Like this was during.

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Speaker 1: My kids will do that so a lot.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, my playing career when I would have you know,

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Speaker 9: road trips and stuff like that, and I was free,

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Speaker 9: but VIP it depended on what game. Majority of the time,

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Speaker 9: video games was kind of my that was my spot.

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Speaker 6: He's being very humble right now. He's being very humble

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Speaker 6: right now. Whenever we would play a shooter video game,

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Speaker 6: he would have to carry me and I was just

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Speaker 6: his backpack.

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Speaker 9: Gladly. He was a great He was a guy. You know,

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Speaker 9: you need your back you know what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 9: just have the visuals. They might not ever do anything really,

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Speaker 9: but they're at least gonna have great call outs and

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Speaker 9: they're gonna have great communication that everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Most of the pros have hand eye coordination that the

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Speaker 4: rest of us don't know about.

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Speaker 3: So it helps with video games too.

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Speaker 1: Does he still wear you at with sports stakes or what? Uh?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 9: He there for a while, he would, he would come

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Speaker 9: in pretty hot with him.

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Speaker 7: He hasn't. He hasn't come with anything really here lately.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure now that you're saying that, I'm sure I'll

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Speaker 9: start getting you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, And I'm always.

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Speaker 7: Down for him because I love a little back and forth.

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Speaker 1: So all right, and we appreciate the time. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to do this more often if possible. So Taylor is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to bother you. Check out his work

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Yeah, man, check out his

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Speaker 1: work Field of sixty eight We appreciate it, man, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We only have a couple of minutes here. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: so of course we're going to do a think about

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Speaker 1: It Thursday? Why not? I think we're off Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: so that's why we're doing it today. Yes, well, I

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Speaker 1: mean I am so Taylor wants to do it today.

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Speaker 1: So we need the image of I you.

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Speaker 8: Know that segment talk about a Tuesday on Hot Men

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Speaker 8: Crowder in Soleiro. This is like that, but bigger, big

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Speaker 8: and better, and forty eight hours later, they seems think

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Speaker 8: about it Thursday on.

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Speaker 6: A Tuesday welcome in. Do you think about it Thursday

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Speaker 6: on a Tuesday? Yes, so Stu gotts. The Islanders fired

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Speaker 6: Patrick Waugh yep as their head coach. They replaced him

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Speaker 6: with Peter de Boor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And when you hear the name Debor, you think Kaylan

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Speaker 6: de Boer at Alabama. So the think about it Thursday

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Speaker 6: is who would do better coaching the other person's sports?

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Speaker 6: Peter Deboor coaching Alabama football, right, or Kaylen de Boor

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Speaker 6: now coaching the Islanders.

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Speaker 1: Put it on the poll first. When you think Peter

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Speaker 1: de Boor, do you, of course think of Kaylan de Boor. No,

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Speaker 1: So you're asking, would Kaylin de Boor be a better

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Speaker 1: hockey coach than Peter Debor would be a college football coach? Yep? Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get all my Peter de Boor knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Yes, now that's not really taking that lot and I

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Speaker 1: usually save all my thinking for Thursday. This is this

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Speaker 1: is a difficult one. It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: I'm only thinking half as hard on Thursday. Yes, so

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Speaker 3: you know, oh no, we're off never mind, Well, I.

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Speaker 6: Know this feels like a very clear answer here where

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Speaker 6: Kaylan de bor is struggling with the Alabama expectations. You

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Speaker 6: give him a different sport. I'm worried about him crumbling. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think a hockey guy translates to coaching football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lower bar if he were coaching the Islanders,

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Speaker 1: not nearly as much pressure. He's not. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: not replacing Nick Saban. It is listen, You're not replacing

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Speaker 1: al Arbor, who in the eighties won four straight Stanley

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Speaker 1: Cup with the Islanders, went to a fifth, lost to Edmonton,

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Speaker 1: and then Gretzky went on a run. Okay, he's replacing nobody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Kaylen de Boor would be a

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Speaker 1: great hockey coach.

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Speaker 5: I say this having lived in the New York market

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Speaker 5: for pretty much my whole life. There is nothing like

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Speaker 5: that Alabama job when it comes to pressure to win.

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Speaker 5: I would if I'm Kaylin d Boor. I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: make this happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, right, as opposed to being the eye onder coach.

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Speaker 1: No one cares. I mean, geez mah, no, we cares, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know whatever, Mike and Garden City, Billion

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Speaker 1: Ocean Side, you know, Jimmy and Long Beach, They're the

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Speaker 1: only people that care. If the Islanders are good, you know. So,

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Speaker 1: has Taylor de Boor actually won anything? No? No, I

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Speaker 1: mean no.

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Speaker 4: Peter de Boor has gotten closed and never actually won

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Speaker 4: anything either. But I think Kaylen's been further away from

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Speaker 4: real winning than Peter.

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Speaker 1: Has.

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Speaker 3: He lost in the championship to Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Outside of that, he's got a lot of Coach of

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Speaker 4: the Years in his resume, but not a lot of championships.

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Speaker 1: Has he ever won anything? He was sixteen minutes away

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Speaker 1: from winning the whole damn thing.

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Speaker 3: So the answer is no, because he didn't win that