Speaker 1: Hello, Well, Hi, who is this?
Speaker 2: This is Jake? Jake?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: How can I get you today?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. I guess we could talk about
Speaker 2: what I texted you. Go ahead, only relevant thing going
Speaker 2: on in my life. Yeah, I guess what I texted
Speaker 2: you was meth made me a cross dresser?
Speaker 1: Yes, you said you said smoking meth made you a
Speaker 1: cross dresser?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, definitely, go aheads, really weird?
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me what happens.
Speaker 2: Shoot, I don't know. I mean it was like probably
Speaker 2: a little over a year ago. I had kind of
Speaker 2: fell into smoking dope and had started like having these
Speaker 2: thoughts of like what I looked like as a girl
Speaker 2: and shit like that, and.
Speaker 1: Real quick, before you, before you got any further, like
Speaker 1: because I usually like smoking dope, I interpret usually to
Speaker 1: be pot. Are you talking about pot?
Speaker 2: Or Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, okay, I guess like in the meth communities
Speaker 1: and is do they call it smoking dope?
Speaker 2: From what I understand? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, sorry interrupt, No.
Speaker 2: You're good. It started like with like using like apps
Speaker 2: to you know, like ginger, change your gender and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, and then I realized, like I live alone,
Speaker 2: so like why can't I just do this myself? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So you know, I started ordering stuff on Amazon and
Speaker 2: trying stuff out, like dresses and bras and things like that,
Speaker 2: and here I am a year later, like cross dress
Speaker 2: every day, Like anytime I'm at home, I'm basically cross dressed.
Speaker 1: Are you cross dressed right now? Well, I guess you're
Speaker 1: in a uh Okay, I just for context, you're uh uh.
Speaker 1: I totally forgot. We're cutting this part out of the podcast.
Speaker 1: But for context, I'm just gonna say this and we
Speaker 1: can leave this in. Like there's a lot of times
Speaker 1: in this podcast where like I'll call somebody and they'll
Speaker 1: be like driving on the highway, which is what happened
Speaker 1: in this phone call, and then I'll have to wait
Speaker 1: for them to get off the highway and we'll cut
Speaker 1: that part out. So I was gonna just say, just now,
Speaker 1: but you're in your car, so I assume you're not
Speaker 1: cross dressing. But I realized that we're cutting out the
Speaker 1: part where I learn that you're in your car, and
Speaker 1: so that's why I'm giving the explanation just now. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna assume that this what I just said made sense
Speaker 1: to anyone who's listening to it.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you're in your car right now, so you're not
Speaker 1: cross dressed?
Speaker 2: No, I mean I do go out like cross dressed sometimes,
Speaker 2: like a'll wear like girl jeans and things like that,
Speaker 2: but not like a orn't a bra and stuff like
Speaker 2: that and kits and stuff.
Speaker 1: What so? I guess, So how old are you?
Speaker 2: I am thirty four, I think thirty four to thirty five.
Speaker 1: And when did you start smoking meth?
Speaker 2: I mean I first tried it, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: probably a deck day ago, okay, and then I went
Speaker 2: to rehab and stuff and went to rehab and I've
Speaker 2: been good, and then I don't know, I fell off
Speaker 2: the wagon about a year ago.
Speaker 1: And what was it about? Like, so, I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been alive for thirty four years and you've been smoking
Speaker 1: meth for a decade. What was it about this particular
Speaker 1: hit of meth that made you realize you wanted to
Speaker 1: wear women's clothing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I've spent so many nights and
Speaker 2: days thinking about this. I have no idea because it
Speaker 2: didn't happen any other time. But I think it probably
Speaker 2: had to do with something about me, like living alone
Speaker 2: and having the opportunities to do so.
Speaker 1: Sure. So yeah, so anytime you're at home alone, you're
Speaker 1: wearing women's.
Speaker 2: Clothing, Yeah, pretty most part. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, well and are you Are you having fun?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like it. It gives me a lot of comfort
Speaker 2: and makes me feel so good and happy and stuff.
Speaker 1: Man, you ever do the tuck?
Speaker 2: I've tried it. Not too comfortable.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not talking about like I don't have to.
Speaker 1: Like did you think I met like the permanent tuck
Speaker 1: where you kind of like walk you like actually like
Speaker 1: tape your dick to your anus kind of thing. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that sound that sounds horrible. I I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any I mean, I have a
Speaker 1: particularly like hairy taint, and so if I if I
Speaker 1: were to try to tuck, I it would rip off
Speaker 1: my asshole hairs and be very painful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's like special tape for it. It's like
Speaker 2: body tape and stuff like.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about more of like what's that guy's
Speaker 1: like a like a what's that guy's name? I'm talking
Speaker 1: about more like a buffalo Bill tuck. Yeah, Buffalo Bill
Speaker 1: tuck where you just kind of you know, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't really commit to it with tape or anything.
Speaker 1: You just kind of throw it back there and just
Speaker 1: to see what's up.
Speaker 2: Put it back there and see what it looks like. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have done that.
Speaker 1: All right. So so when you get home, are you
Speaker 1: gonna go Are you gonna put on uh a dress?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just got some new bras and stuff yesterday, you know,
Speaker 2: try on.
Speaker 1: So is this like a is this like uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess it's you. Is this Are you
Speaker 1: hoping that this like evolves into into like a new
Speaker 1: identity that you wanna like wear out in public or
Speaker 1: like what's what?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 1: Do where do you? Where do you think this is heading?
Speaker 1: Is it heading anywhere? Is it just kind of a hobby?
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: It's definitely changed my life in quite a bit of ways,
Speaker 2: Like I started wearing nail polish, or my nails are
Speaker 2: always painted. I mean, like I said, I wear I
Speaker 2: wear some girl clothes out and about sometimes, but that's
Speaker 2: not really too weird today. Back in the day, we
Speaker 2: used to like all the guys were girl that were
Speaker 2: into like the music scene stuff like that. But it's
Speaker 2: definitely changed who I am I've left it definitely thought
Speaker 2: about like my gender identity as like non binary basically
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm as fascinated by people who discover this
Speaker 1: stuff later in life because it seems like an awfully
Speaker 1: large thing to like lay dormant for so many years
Speaker 1: and and of all things be activated by by smoking meth.
Speaker 1: I I guess as you're telling me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me think that like I kind of
Speaker 2: had these thoughts like my whole life. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, I had to get dressed
Speaker 2: up in dresses because I grew up with a sister
Speaker 2: and a mom and I was it and so that
Speaker 2: was like kind of normal to happen. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: like growing up like through like my teen years and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I would have never thought about like
Speaker 2: cross dressing or anything like this.
Speaker 1: So you're three or four? You live alone? Are you
Speaker 1: do you do? You have a job?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 2: I drive cars around for Carvana?
Speaker 1: Oh? Very nice, very nice?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you ever what do you ever wear the clothes
Speaker 1: while you're working? I have?
Speaker 2: I mean I wear like not like I don't really
Speaker 2: like blouses very much. The kind of to wear out
Speaker 2: in public. They don't like look good on me unless
Speaker 2: you're like wearing like a bra and everything stuff. But
Speaker 2: I'll wear like girls T shirts and like girls pants
Speaker 2: and girls shoes and like a thong and stuff like
Speaker 2: that to work.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the math. What's up with the
Speaker 1: what's are you still smoking meth?
Speaker 3: Or?
Speaker 1: Was that? Did you kind of?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you still smoking?
Speaker 3: I am?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well how often you smoking meth?
Speaker 2: Day? I'd say a couple of times a week.
Speaker 1: Okay, How is that affecting your life? It doesn't really really,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a smoking meth A couple of weeks doesn't
Speaker 1: affect your life.
Speaker 2: No, I sleep every night. I I still see my
Speaker 2: family and I go hang out friends. Yeah, damn, all
Speaker 2: still pretty normal.
Speaker 1: I guess that's a little bit of I guess there.
Speaker 1: I guess there was really nothing wrong. I guess there
Speaker 1: was really nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: With Yeah, right, I mean it's basically adderall. Do you
Speaker 2: think about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I guess I don't. I don't. I was just joking.
Speaker 1: I don't stand by that statement at all, But I
Speaker 1: mean maybe, yeah, maybe, I don't know. I'm not a doctor,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a lizard. Dude, Uh, do you want
Speaker 1: to quit smoking meth? Or are you kind of because
Speaker 1: that's you know, what's a bummer is when you're smoking,
Speaker 1: like is like if you're someone like yourself where like
Speaker 1: you're smoking just a little bit of myth, like none
Speaker 1: enough that it's ruining your life and like everything is
Speaker 1: going well because then you're really it's really the guys
Speaker 1: who are like, you know, smoking meth in the gutter
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, you got to stop or else
Speaker 1: you know, you got you gotta really get your whole
Speaker 1: life together. But you're doing you're like doing okay, you know,
Speaker 1: but I but I mean, do you desire to stop
Speaker 1: smoking meth? I feel like it's probably a good idea.
Speaker 1: It's not a professional.
Speaker 2: Medal yea saying yeah I do. It's just because it's like, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just dirty kind of like I
Speaker 2: don't like doing it. And for a long time I
Speaker 2: was actually scared to quit because I was afraid that
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to cross dress anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's a little it's very funny because you
Speaker 1: I don't it's funny because I just I don't get it,
Speaker 1: like like it's cool, Like, dude, totally nothing wrong, nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with, nothing wrong with crossdress. Like I just I
Speaker 1: don't get why you've linked it to meth for some reason.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only thing I've like looked online
Speaker 2: about it a little bit, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that have said that, like, meth made me gay,
Speaker 2: Meth made me do like some uh non straight things
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and definitely cross dressing was one
Speaker 2: of those that people had said that like meth had
Speaker 2: It's apparently makes people a lot more feminine in some ways.
Speaker 1: There are other people who are reporting on message boards
Speaker 1: that specifically meth made them want to cross dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I read that on Kora.
Speaker 1: Damn is Walter White secretly an LGBT icon you know
Speaker 1: maybe anyway, Well, i mean, look, here's what look good
Speaker 1: for you on the cross dressing. That sounds like it's
Speaker 1: it's improved your life. I'm not gonna say. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say the same thing about the math. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to give you a good for you on
Speaker 1: the Methye, I'm not going to do that in good
Speaker 1: in good conscious. But have you ever been to like
Speaker 1: a counselor therapist person that does to talk about any
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 2: Uh, not any of this yet. I've been meaning to
Speaker 2: get into like therapy, like a counselor and stuff, but okay,
Speaker 2: I just haven't gone in yet.
Speaker 1: But so, I mean, you're cool otherwise. You have friends,
Speaker 1: you have a life, you have a job, You're happy.
Speaker 1: You're not like in in the throes of misery every day.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not like selling my couch to go get
Speaker 2: more dope and stuff like that. Like, okay, about a dog,
Speaker 2: I walk them every day. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Well, I I I mean, I'm just gonna say I
Speaker 1: never thought I would say this to someone, but you
Speaker 1: don't need meth to cross dress. You can do that
Speaker 1: now and and and wear whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But for for a long time, it was I
Speaker 2: would only cross dress like when I was smoking mm hm.
Speaker 2: And and now it's it's definitely evolved past that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been you know, I've been saying this in my
Speaker 2: last bag every day or every other day or whatever
Speaker 2: for a while. But I think that.
Speaker 1: No, go ahead, I don't. I was literally I was
Speaker 1: literally gonna just interrupt you to say something stupid, and
Speaker 1: I'll say it eventually, but I want to hear what
Speaker 1: you were going to say.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I was gonna say, I'll try to quit
Speaker 2: if you tell me to.
Speaker 1: I don't. Here's okay, here's what I will say. And
Speaker 1: I don't want I think you should try to. I
Speaker 1: don't think you should try to quit because I told
Speaker 1: you to. You know, I think you should have more
Speaker 1: reasons to quit, and I can. But I'll say, I'll say,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you do. I'll say this, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very happy that you sound like you're
Speaker 1: actually doing pretty well. I think I am no medical expert,
Speaker 1: but I will say anecdotally, I assume that your life
Speaker 1: will be improved by not smoking myth, and therefore you
Speaker 1: should probably you should probably quit smoking myth?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that what you wanted deer from me? It is okay, good,
Speaker 1: definitely okay, good good good, And I think and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm happy for I'm genuinely I'm really I'm happy for
Speaker 1: you that you've seemed to, you know, despite all of this,
Speaker 1: found like navigated your life in such a way that
Speaker 1: you're happy and and you're doing okay. Especially I don't
Speaker 1: know you're past but it sounds like it wasn't always
Speaker 1: like that, and you're kind of navigated to find a
Speaker 1: good a good rhythm for your life. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a really beautiful thing. And I'm proud of you
Speaker 1: for doing that.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: And now that you've done that, you know you can
Speaker 1: probably you can probably quit smoke a mess.
Speaker 2: I can probably quit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got everything
Speaker 2: else going pretty good. Yeah, I wouldn't want to throw
Speaker 2: it away again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was gonna say, I get I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to understand why meth makes people gay,
Speaker 1: you know, because that doesn't make what I don't understand from.
Speaker 2: What I read, like apparently, like like I said, it
Speaker 2: like makes people more feminine, but it apparently like does
Speaker 2: something with estrogen.
Speaker 1: Like Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from what I read. I mean, as far
Speaker 2: as you can trust like people on Kora and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, but I thought it was something like if you're
Speaker 1: just awake until six a m. Every night, like and
Speaker 1: your brain's running yeah, like if you're if you're awake,
Speaker 1: if you like, if you just don't sleep and your
Speaker 1: brain is running through thoughts consistently all the time. Eventually
Speaker 1: it runs into how would I look in a broad
Speaker 1: and panties? That is that was my hypothesis, but the
Speaker 1: astrogen scientific Yeah it does. Yeah, because I guess everyone
Speaker 1: has like like if you just if you just keep
Speaker 1: going through your brain like you, you will eventually find
Speaker 1: the gay thoughts part. And you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how any of this works, but I'm
Speaker 1: happy with your head.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm here.
Speaker 1: There's a pleasure talking to you, man. I really do
Speaker 1: hope you get clean. You're you sound like a real
Speaker 1: stand up pleasure, a real real good dude, real good dude.
Speaker 1: And there's pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 2: Thanks, man, it's been awesome talking you. I never thought
Speaker 2: i'd get on. I just went that text as like
Speaker 2: kind of like a throwaway and grabbing ons. Get calling.
Speaker 1: Let me know if you quit math sending an Instagram
Speaker 1: d and if I if I'm on the toilet one
Speaker 1: day looking at my DMS and I get a text
Speaker 1: from you and you're like, hey, I quit MATH after
Speaker 1: you told me to that. That would make me feel good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't take credit for it, because that's
Speaker 1: your own journey, but yeah, do that.
Speaker 2: Definitely look forward to it.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to what's your name again?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Jake, Jake, Jake? Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people at the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't smoke math there we go?
Speaker 1: All right, put a long T shirt on, All right?
Speaker 1: Take care. Jake was pretty chill, definitely the chillest meth
Speaker 1: user I've ever ran into. I hope he quits and
Speaker 1: uh drives cars and hangs out. Nice nice person. Hey folks,
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Speaker 1: Yack bluss, Hello, what's up man? What's your name? Uh?
Speaker 1: Pimp pays the pimp?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting, It's like, do you know that guy? I just
Speaker 1: found out about this guy. There's this guy, he's very famous.
Speaker 1: His name is Paeso Plume. What's what is that? Who's
Speaker 1: yelling in the bags? You had a person yelling in
Speaker 1: the background.
Speaker 3: That's my mom. They're they're going to burger too.
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I'd be yelling too if I was doing.
Speaker 3: This, but just ignored the background. There my family.
Speaker 1: They're like planning your trip to Burger King. They're talking
Speaker 1: about what they're gonna eat there.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, for me, I ain't going. Uh, it's how
Speaker 3: with this financial situation, but I'm making it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, burger also. Yeah, it's getting kind of well.
Speaker 1: Here's the hack. Let me tell you this is with
Speaker 1: any fast food place, if you order off like the
Speaker 1: regular menu, it's gonna run you like fifteen bucks for
Speaker 1: like a fucking hamburger, fries and I drink. But that's
Speaker 1: why you gotta do. That's what everyone does, is everyone.
Speaker 1: Everyone just orders off the the main menu. But all
Speaker 1: these places, they all have value menus. So you can
Speaker 1: get a cheeseburger for like three dollars. You know, you
Speaker 1: just got to know what men you to order off of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because normally for me, I got no problems. I
Speaker 3: go by myself. But if I took my fiancee to
Speaker 3: go eat like will Bowl, I'll start paying like thirty
Speaker 3: bucks and I'm there like, man, it's like I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Now you're next? Yeah, no, she she's here to in
Speaker 3: my room. She she's I got her? Who Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was listening to you. Just first he was just like
Speaker 3: what the hell? Man dressed as a get go talking
Speaker 3: to people. And then I'm there's like, yeah, man, it's
Speaker 3: a pretty chure guy.
Speaker 1: I like, thanks man, thanks the poor. So are you
Speaker 1: a pimp?
Speaker 3: No? I used to in g T A my g
Speaker 3: T A character.
Speaker 1: Okay about.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, okay, My my fiancee would kill
Speaker 3: me if I was a pimp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. You seem like you honestly seem like too
Speaker 1: nice of a guy to be a pimp.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nice. And how we call it the free world is
Speaker 3: what I call it. Because I work in the correctional
Speaker 3: facility as a prison guard. That's where's my attitude like that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I'm I'm I'm a big teddy bear. Basically, I'm
Speaker 3: a big teddy bear. And then when I go to work,
Speaker 3: I change. I changed like position, you know, because you
Speaker 3: can't be a big teddy bear and I have a
Speaker 3: prison man, it will take advantage of you. Like just
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, they caught a female officer bringing in
Speaker 3: contraband to our unit. She was bringing in like four
Speaker 3: cancer tobacco and three cell phones into the unit. And
Speaker 3: now she's i think, serving two years in prison now.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy, man, I'm telling you. And the type
Speaker 3: of ship I've seen in this job, it really changed
Speaker 3: me because I'll just be a construction guy. And and
Speaker 3: whenever I used to start working in here, it changed
Speaker 3: me a lot. I've seen a lot of messed up
Speaker 3: stuff in here, and it's honestly, I should go see
Speaker 3: a therapist, but I don't feel like pain to someone
Speaker 3: to talk to me. Like, so usually when I do,
Speaker 3: I go fishing with my dad or or some friends
Speaker 3: and we sit there and it's just quiet, and then
Speaker 3: they're like so they would say, oh, so, how's your job,
Speaker 3: and I know you can't relate. I've just seen a
Speaker 3: guy that just cut his throat open, like last night
Speaker 3: because he forgot to take a psycho edge, and they
Speaker 3: were like, oh, what the hell, And yeah, man, it's
Speaker 3: a crazy job. Also, it's kind of fun whenever there's
Speaker 3: an inmate acting up and we have to take care
Speaker 3: of him. Like last time this he was throwing feces
Speaker 3: at this one officer for a reason, and he was
Speaker 3: throwing he was throwing ship at an officer and they
Speaker 3: told us like, hey, take to handle them, handle him,
Speaker 3: and like all right, And they we got this one
Speaker 3: thing called five man team. So the five man team
Speaker 3: is an armor squad. So what we do. We're in
Speaker 3: charge of controlling the inmates toward backing up. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm five eleven almost six foot, two hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: pounds of muscle, and they put me as the first
Speaker 3: man to go in and sell and I have a
Speaker 3: right shield all the time. So they were telling you us, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's an inmate, Rogers. They'll call him Rogers, right, So
Speaker 3: like all right, and they were saying, oh, Junior, go
Speaker 3: go suit up. All right, we go suit up. They
Speaker 3: tell us our positions. Junior, you're one man, Pedro, you're
Speaker 3: two man, this and that. And then I'm like all right,
Speaker 3: and I remember that specific inmate. He said something that
Speaker 3: got personal to me. So I'm there. It's like, all right,
Speaker 3: it's showtime. Once they opened the cell, it was like
Speaker 3: a horrendous sight. This man put feces all over the
Speaker 3: floor and he had a cup filled with piss and
Speaker 3: he was swinging and like swinging it everywhere, like throwing
Speaker 3: pists on everyone. And I'm there. It's like, man, what
Speaker 3: the hell did I sign up for? But anyway we go.
Speaker 3: I tackled him down. He falls down, hits his head
Speaker 3: in the toilet where he basically I knocked and we
Speaker 3: knocked him out and he gained consciousness. And I'll tell you,
Speaker 3: this guy's like six foot eight, six foot seven, three
Speaker 3: hundred pounds of muscle. So me and my coworkers were
Speaker 3: we're just on top of this man and he's just
Speaker 3: like he also he was high because we found once
Speaker 3: we searched his cell, we found mass fast off and
Speaker 3: there's a he called they call it. It's like and
Speaker 3: say marijuana. It's called Kate two and it's like it's
Speaker 3: marijuana mixed. We don't know what. Yeah, So we're there,
Speaker 3: like we'll punch in will and he will not give up.
Speaker 3: We will. We will elbow him in the head and
Speaker 3: the mouth. And he was not giving up to the
Speaker 3: point that my coworkers like, oh, I'm on, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: grab his balls and twisted and that did not work.
Speaker 1: And I'm like Jesus, like your co worker, your coworker,
Speaker 1: Well you guys are authorized to grab someone's balls and
Speaker 1: twist them.
Speaker 3: Well, let's use a force right there. Like for me personally,
Speaker 3: I will not do that. I'll put you in the
Speaker 3: throat because there's a centerpiece in your throat area. It's
Speaker 3: really sensitive. You push in like you run out of air.
Speaker 3: So I punched him in the throw and he stopped
Speaker 3: like this this circulation like he's like started gasping for air.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. My coworkers kind of suss. I
Speaker 3: told it's like you're weird. You know, it's like, why
Speaker 3: why is the first thing grab his bass and twisted?
Speaker 2: He's a mess.
Speaker 3: He won't feel nothing. But we I have seen like
Speaker 3: the Turtle squad fight an inmate who is like covered
Speaker 3: with vasilin all over his body and that he's like
Speaker 3: and then they can't put hand restrings on him because
Speaker 3: the hands restrings slips. So they're fighting a guy with
Speaker 3: dick and ball out inside of a tiny little self.
Speaker 3: And you just hear the commotement happened.
Speaker 1: And you ever see uh greased up deaf guy from
Speaker 1: family Guy and it's like a naked guy covered in grease.
Speaker 3: Yes like that, Yes, just like that, just like that,
Speaker 3: and you honestly and then the worst part about this job,
Speaker 3: you know, we got to stay clean on purpose, like
Speaker 3: not on purpose, but on all the time. For me,
Speaker 3: I used to smoke a lot. I used to Oh,
Speaker 3: I miss it, I miss it. Oh. I used to
Speaker 3: get really really high and eat edibles. And I miss
Speaker 3: it because I used to work as a custodian and
Speaker 3: I used to get baked before entering to work and
Speaker 3: cleaning restrooms and I forgot. There was this one guy
Speaker 3: that called in that he was a janitor and then
Speaker 3: he used to get drunk at work. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: kind of related with him. But I used to get
Speaker 3: baked and I'll put on my AirPods drive the big
Speaker 3: machine to clean floors. I miss it a lot, But
Speaker 3: I was getting paid ten bucks in the hour and
Speaker 3: now I'm getting paid like twenty five twenty six in
Speaker 3: an hour. But it comes with consequences because I've seen
Speaker 3: stuff that I don't want to see, and then my
Speaker 3: anger I got anger issues. Now my anger issues are
Speaker 3: max to roof out the roof. And the worst part
Speaker 3: about this is that the prisons and here is that
Speaker 3: they don't have a C. There's no a C. So
Speaker 3: during the summer we have a whole bunch of user
Speaker 3: forces where we had we pepper sprace like. It's mostly
Speaker 3: the idiots who can't control their their anger or who
Speaker 3: cannot like control their inmates that they always get in
Speaker 3: one argument and that argument leads to a use of force.
Speaker 3: For me, I answer the cell block, the put me
Speaker 3: around the cell block entwers like, Hey, look, if y'all
Speaker 3: want to treat be treated like ship, I'll treat.
Speaker 4: You like shit.
Speaker 3: If you treat me with respect, you treating with respects.
Speaker 2: It's not a hard job.
Speaker 3: You just gotta be you gotta be chill. Also, I
Speaker 3: think I called for that they suspected me and bringing
Speaker 3: a contraband to the unit, which is kind of fucked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that, you sent me a text and
Speaker 1: you met. You mentioned that you were suspected of of
Speaker 1: bringing contraband. Yeah, why were you respected? Why were you
Speaker 1: expected of? Why were you suspected of bringing contraband in?
Speaker 3: Look? So this is pretty stupid, man. So we worked
Speaker 3: six days in we have three days off, right, and
Speaker 3: the schedule is weird. But last week I was my
Speaker 3: my Sunday was Saturday, so I was six and Thursday
Speaker 3: and I was six. My I was sick on my
Speaker 3: three days off and on Sday on Easter, I called
Speaker 3: them because I was sick, and my lieutenant I asked me,
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, why are you calling it? Oh I'm sick,
Speaker 3: So all right and out of nowhere. That's the main reason, right,
Speaker 3: because I come in Monday. My coworkers like, hey, you
Speaker 3: know they got it like a black list now and
Speaker 3: they say that you're in it. It's like for what
Speaker 3: calling in sick? I got? I kind of like I
Speaker 3: had like a bronchitis type of thing that I gotta
Speaker 3: have a airpump and my coffee was bad. Then I
Speaker 3: go and the next day on Tuesday, I'm driving into work.
Speaker 3: I see my lieutenant outside and my lieutenant pulls me
Speaker 3: out my truck. It's like, hey, we're gonna search your truck.
Speaker 3: And I was like all right, and I was weirdd out,
Speaker 3: And since my truck has a whole bunch of tool,
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, why do you have this tool? Why
Speaker 3: do you have this tool? I'm there. It's like I
Speaker 3: was mad. I was like, look, why y'all searching my trucks?
Speaker 3: Like it's nothing serious, And it's like, oh, no, we
Speaker 3: suspect you're being contravy. You've been calling in a lot,
Speaker 3: which is stupid. I was like, man, look, I'm going
Speaker 3: through commercial driver license school. I'm trying to get out
Speaker 3: of here. I'm trying to I don't see that.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I was going to ask. That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask.
Speaker 2: All right, So.
Speaker 1: I mean, one A, look, it's a it's a bummer
Speaker 1: that you know you're having to you know, uh, restrain
Speaker 1: grease s up naked people and get pissed and ship
Speaker 1: thrown at you, and uh, you don't make enough money
Speaker 1: to you know, go get burger kiding. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no I do. But it's just the payments man,
Speaker 3: usually my car payment and my insurance mm hmm. But now,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, they totaled my car because of some hell damage.
Speaker 3: So I'm free up right now. And I wasted all
Speaker 3: my money right now getting party supplies from my girl.
Speaker 3: So that that's the main that's where all my money went.
Speaker 1: Party supplies.
Speaker 3: Food. Yeah, like food, mechanical bull. And she did not
Speaker 3: wanted the mechanical bull. I wanted the mechanical.
Speaker 1: Hello, what what what's this party that you're throwing for her?
Speaker 1: Where you have a mechanical she's.
Speaker 3: His birthday party and don't bring a mechanical bull. It's like, man, bro,
Speaker 3: like I'm it's like, it's fun. You never have a
Speaker 3: mechanical bull on your party.
Speaker 1: Like you're missing Okay, you're dude, You in real life
Speaker 1: are mechanical bullying. You know, fucking people on meth all
Speaker 1: the time, and so you're gonna get a simulation of
Speaker 1: what you do every day.
Speaker 3: Uh, basically it's fun. I like mechanical bulls that. Oh okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it like that, but I like
Speaker 3: writing chanical bull Okay.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so you're trying to There's a few things I'm
Speaker 1: furious about. One is you said you have anger issues.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, what I knew?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 1: Why are what's making you angry? Uh?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I've been having these angry issues since middle school. Uh.
Speaker 3: I used to get booty booty. I used to get
Speaker 3: booted a lot in middle school. And I was I
Speaker 3: was really quiet, you know. I was a quiet kid
Speaker 3: playing Pokemon like we Pokemon started trending in middle school. Again.
Speaker 3: I'm twenty, by the way, and.
Speaker 1: Wait, twenty, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm twenty.
Speaker 1: You're only twenty. That's so young to be uh doing
Speaker 1: all this shit.
Speaker 3: My body, I'm years old, but I seel like fifty
Speaker 3: year old man with his body. Man, I'm my body aches.
Speaker 3: I wish, I wish I was just back in middle school,
Speaker 3: you know. But anyway, like in middle school, we used
Speaker 3: to play Pokemon and and financial phrase was coming out,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, some group of kids will take
Speaker 3: on me all the time. I was kind of short
Speaker 3: and chubby. But then I couldn't really do nothing because
Speaker 3: it was just a group of guys, you know, just
Speaker 3: picking on me. And then seventh grade they started doing
Speaker 3: Eighth grade if I kind of popped off, you know,
Speaker 3: like I finally got tired of it, and I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I started hunting them down, like one by
Speaker 3: one and I'll start beating the living ship out of
Speaker 3: here until my parents we decided to move out and
Speaker 3: we went up to a country, Spandora, Texas. Yeah. If
Speaker 3: we moved out to Spandora, Texas and it was pretty
Speaker 3: chill there, I kind of found peace, you know because, uh,
Speaker 3: being in the city compared to the country's way different. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm mostly all my friends I made. I was in Spandora,
Speaker 3: shout out to the boys, all my favorite Delliery ones,
Speaker 3: and uh there I stopped. I stopt like I felt peace,
Speaker 3: you know. I found people who I was like really
Speaker 3: close with and chilled with until we moved back to
Speaker 3: Houston because my dad found a better job over here
Speaker 3: and the same shit started rolling again, the same people.
Speaker 3: But now I knew how to fight and I knew
Speaker 3: how to defend myself. But it was an everyday thing
Speaker 3: where they started picking on me mentally, and then it
Speaker 3: got to the point where I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: like I'm tired of this shit, and I tried to
Speaker 3: take my life away, and I don't know, something stopped
Speaker 3: me about it. And I think it was my dog.
Speaker 3: I had this one dog and it was my sister's dog.
Speaker 3: I used to take care of her. But now she
Speaker 3: passed away like two years ago. She was really old
Speaker 3: because I took care of her. She was a baby
Speaker 3: when I was seven, and basically that dog, each time
Speaker 3: I was feeling bad, I would always brush her hair.
Speaker 3: She was like a poodle, so I would brush her hair.
Speaker 3: It would bring me peace to it. And then whenever
Speaker 3: I started working in construction, first as a constori and
Speaker 3: I was just baked all the time, so I found
Speaker 3: everything fun and happy. And then I went into it
Speaker 3: as an electrician, I felt like like, I don't know
Speaker 3: I did that that didn't not felt like my branch.
Speaker 3: But I know I'm a Hispanic and I feel and
Speaker 3: I'm covered with all these Hispanic men who are trying
Speaker 3: to take care of their families and everything. I'm just
Speaker 3: in there just to have a camaro table for camaro.
Speaker 3: And once I got laid off. I entered operator with
Speaker 3: machines and I found then they told me about this
Speaker 3: job of being a correctional officer. They start you off
Speaker 3: twenty three dollars an hour in a training academy, and
Speaker 3: I searched it up on YouTube, like, oh, let's see
Speaker 3: what they do. And I thought, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: it's easy. Nah, it's way different once you start working
Speaker 3: in this thing, man, and I did not expect it,
Speaker 3: Like I remember the first time they tried to throw
Speaker 3: like a mixture between semens diarrhea and piss at me.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: A twenty three year old guy and he was psyching
Speaker 3: out that he didn't have his food tray. And I
Speaker 3: was just like, look, I gave you your food tray.
Speaker 3: You just you're just something's wrong with you, you know.
Speaker 3: And then I remember he said, oh, I got you,
Speaker 3: I got you, and I walked away. This happened to
Speaker 3: restricted housing, so they cannot leave their cell at all.
Speaker 3: They stay in there the whole time every time, and
Speaker 3: the only time they come out is to go take
Speaker 3: a shower. But they got to be a hand restrains.
Speaker 3: And I remember when I walked by, I just seem
Speaker 3: I felt like a like a vibe where I felt
Speaker 3: like I'm just gonna go wrong here. And I stopped,
Speaker 3: and when I stopped, I seemed like a mixture, like
Speaker 3: green stuff flying off the cell. And then he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you should have gone closer to I could have dashed you.
Speaker 3: That's what I called it, called it dashing. And I'm
Speaker 3: there like, oh no, I'm not having that. So I
Speaker 3: started cussing him out. I got mad, and he was
Speaker 3: going to do it again, but he was trying to
Speaker 3: refill with toilet water. So you can't do this at all.
Speaker 3: If they're inside the cell, you cannot pepper spray them.
Speaker 3: But I did not give a fuck. I went in.
Speaker 3: It's like you're trying to you trying to dash me.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, And I totally to get closer, Like.
Speaker 1: Don't get my friend a bit, my friend? What's what's
Speaker 1: your name again?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: The pay so pay so you uh man. In your
Speaker 1: very short career as a human being, you've had pissed
Speaker 1: and ship and come thrown at you a pretty fair
Speaker 1: amount of times, haven't you. So let's do this before
Speaker 1: we go. I want to get this this, Uh, I
Speaker 1: want to get this. I'm curious what, uh, what's next
Speaker 1: for you man? Because you're you're doing all this crazy
Speaker 1: stuff and this is crazy. It clearly has you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think working at Arkham Asylum is
Speaker 1: good for anyone's mental health, and so, uh, what's next
Speaker 1: for you? What are you going to do? First of all,
Speaker 1: you should try to talk to a real therapist because
Speaker 1: you seem like, you know, you do seem like a
Speaker 1: smart guy who's self aware. You know, I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of people they have these kind of issues and
Speaker 1: they just they let them fucking run wild and control
Speaker 1: their lives and and never address it and never do
Speaker 1: anything to fix it. So, you know, I mean, being
Speaker 1: self aware about the fact that you, you know, have
Speaker 1: anger issues and things that you need to get fixed
Speaker 1: is smart. I'll say, I'm curious, I'm curious what do
Speaker 1: you want to do next? Because you're you're trying to
Speaker 1: I mean, for twenty five bucks an hour, you can
Speaker 1: find better jobs that don't involve you know, getting getting
Speaker 1: having that do not involve cups of diarrhea in any capacity.
Speaker 1: So what do you want to do next?
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going to school to get my commercial
Speaker 3: driver license, so I could just you know, I like
Speaker 3: driving so and honestly, if I sound like a kid
Speaker 3: when I said I wish I could be a race
Speaker 3: race car driver, but you know, the money is expensive
Speaker 3: to start doing a career race car driver.
Speaker 1: Dude, Well, it's something where you're not going to get killed.
Speaker 1: I don't know why everyone wants to do something where
Speaker 1: they can get stabbed or in a fiery accident, you know.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but all right now I'm just gonna be
Speaker 3: chilling driving big trucks. Yeah yeah, man. I've been listening
Speaker 3: to you for a while, and honestly, I thought I
Speaker 3: was never going to be in Each time I was
Speaker 3: listening to you, I was like, man, I could be
Speaker 3: in there. You know, I have my my Spotify the
Speaker 3: Spotify episode and listen to my own voice in the radio,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, man, I wish you know the
Speaker 3: rate of the stereo or whatever they call it.
Speaker 1: Well, well listen pay so good good luck.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I wish I was more helpful on this, but I
Speaker 1: met what I said.
Speaker 3: I think you're a.
Speaker 1: I think you should. You should read it. Reel it
Speaker 1: in right, reel it in right. You have a fiance,
Speaker 1: did you say fiance?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, she's the best. She's the best.
Speaker 1: You're getting married, not.
Speaker 3: Yet legally, but you know, I propose to her.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, because I see I see within you.
Speaker 1: I see within you a commendable, respectable family man who's
Speaker 1: you know, waking up every day, uh you know, happy
Speaker 1: and proud of his life. You know, I see that
Speaker 1: in your future, just like you know, if you can
Speaker 1: get a get a handle on the the anger issues
Speaker 1: and uh you know again, work in a place where
Speaker 1: you're not getting diarrhea thrown at you all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, I see a nice, a nice future for yourself. So,
Speaker 1: you know, hold steady. My friend pays so the pimp
Speaker 1: And by the way, and look, I'm not here to
Speaker 1: tell anyone what to do or criticize anyone's life decisions
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but you know, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: pay so. I don't know, pimp, I mean, pimps is
Speaker 1: just so strong, can we? Is there anything else? Any
Speaker 1: any other good p words? Then pimp? Hey, so the
Speaker 1: commendable person.
Speaker 3: Pay so the Yeah yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 1: So the commendable person, let's do that. I'm sestimely streeting
Speaker 1: your fucking name. But so, is there anything else you want?
Speaker 1: To say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, someone, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the chat
Speaker 1: right now. Somebody said, pay so the punctual that's good.
Speaker 1: Like if you're about if you're applying for a job
Speaker 1: and someone's like, oh, this guy's very punctual.
Speaker 3: That's that sounds nice. No, but uh, honestly, I got
Speaker 3: nothing to say but chill choo choo. Okay, then she
Speaker 3: just came in to bother me. But yeah, honestly, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people who say a lot of motivate
Speaker 3: stuff before they leave the phone call. But I got nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to ask you when you come in
Speaker 3: the Houston.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to Houston in September, my friend, I'm coming
Speaker 1: to I'm coming back to uh the secret group with
Speaker 1: a great venue in Houston, Texas for for comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'll be there in September. I'm very excited.
Speaker 3: Come. Yeah, I will buy your ticket no matter what,
Speaker 3: because I've seen whenever you were posting the cities and
Speaker 3: the dates, I was like, man, I won't see Houston.
Speaker 1: I'll be in Houston September. Don't go into debt, don't
Speaker 1: take out a loan, to get a ticket. But yeah
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a pull up, all right. I'm gonna try.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get back a little well. I
Speaker 3: do see a little belly on me, but I'll be
Speaker 3: shredded when I get in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah enough, put in some reps with that mechanical bull
Speaker 1: and you'll have a six pack in no time. Here's
Speaker 1: what Here's what I'll do. And this is the last
Speaker 1: thing I'll say. Here's what we'll do is you'll fucking
Speaker 1: uh go go train on the mechanical bowl and then
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little piggyback ride and I'll try
Speaker 1: to buck you off. And if you can last on
Speaker 1: my back for a full sixty seconds, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: give you a T shirt or something. Yes, you got it,
Speaker 1: you got it, all right, take care of me. So
Speaker 1: thanks for calling them, all right, thank you, mister?
Speaker 3: How to go work?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 1: Hi? What is your name?
Speaker 4: My name is McKenzie.
Speaker 1: How am I I'm doing okay, I am feeling good.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling caffeinated and dressed. I've noticed. That's really the
Speaker 1: thing is, you know a lot of the times like
Speaker 1: I'll be if you're ever like just laying in bed,
Speaker 1: and your underwear and you're depressed, Just get dressed and
Speaker 1: go outside and you will feel so much better. All
Speaker 1: you have to do is get dressed. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: really the little things. I mean, I mean, granted, I'm
Speaker 1: dressed in a I'm not really dressed. I'm in a
Speaker 1: gecko costume, which is a version of dressed. But I
Speaker 1: am wearing enough clothes to go outside and not get arrested.
Speaker 1: And that is, I think, the barometer by which we
Speaker 1: should all live. But how are you, Mackenzie?
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 1: What is it you want to talk about today?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So, my sister is a very huge fan, huge fan,
Speaker 4: and so am I. So we listen and she thought
Speaker 4: it would be funny if I told my story. She
Speaker 4: calls it my second butthole.
Speaker 1: You have a second butthole?
Speaker 4: Yeah, technically not really, it's so long story. Sure, I
Speaker 4: had to go to the emergency room. I had large
Speaker 4: lump on the top of my butt crack. This is
Speaker 4: kind of nasty, but it turns out ultimately it was cellulitis,
Speaker 4: and my sister kind of it's you know, inside joke
Speaker 4: now because she initially was like squeezing it. It's a
Speaker 4: really nasty.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, real is this we actually we did
Speaker 1: a whole episode about this. If you go is this
Speaker 1: is this a pollen idyl cyst?
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 3: I think that's what it was.
Speaker 1: There was a there's a if you go back into
Speaker 1: the archives of Therapy, getto there's a whole episode about
Speaker 1: it's called the pollen idyl cyst. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: pollen idyl cyst. Uh fucking five years ago. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: a big lump on the top of the Yeah, it's painful. Yeah, painful,
Speaker 1: that's not really but a whole is con cave and
Speaker 1: the assist is convex. I would say, well, that's.
Speaker 4: The thing it was because it was like it got
Speaker 4: so bad because I thought it was just like an
Speaker 4: ingrown hair, and so I was trying to I was
Speaker 4: trying to avoid going to the er, and I was
Speaker 4: just trying to like treat it at home. So that's
Speaker 4: why she was squeezing it initially. But it got super painful,
Speaker 4: like to the point where I couldn't even sit down anymore.
Speaker 4: And so when they squeezed it, it was like literally
Speaker 4: just a hole from the where the infection was.
Speaker 1: You have a kind of it's kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess kind is the word. Uh, it's kind of
Speaker 1: your sister to squeeze your pollen idol sister for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're super close, super super close, and that always
Speaker 4: thoughts closer.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what are you going to
Speaker 1: do for her in return?
Speaker 4: That is a good question. It's still definitely an open favor.
Speaker 4: But I mean anything that she would ask of me,
Speaker 4: I would do it anyway. So we're just that close.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So, uh so it made a hole that
Speaker 1: you call your second butthole.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well she calls in my second but hole. I'm
Speaker 4: still kind of embarrassed about it. It happened a couple
Speaker 4: months ago, but yeah, because it's funny because that's I
Speaker 4: started talking to this guy and then it happened like
Speaker 4: right after we started talking, and I couldn't tell him
Speaker 4: about it because we had only been talking for like
Speaker 4: a week. And that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: That's sixth base right there is if someone, uh, let's
Speaker 1: fist their pollen idyl cystole.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know about that one, and I
Speaker 4: don't think I would let.
Speaker 3: Him do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that's definitely you should definitely save that
Speaker 1: for marriage. I agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, saving saving the second butt hole for marriage is
Speaker 4: I think the best way to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of like, well, you know how there's
Speaker 1: that loophole where it's like if you if it's just
Speaker 1: anal it's not. They call it the poophole loophole where
Speaker 1: like God like for Christian people like if you if
Speaker 1: God doesn't care if you have premarital sex. The song
Speaker 1: it's in the butthole, I think that applies to the
Speaker 1: second butthole too, So you could get a person could
Speaker 1: get d peed in their first and second butthole and
Speaker 1: God would you know, be like, yeah, go wild, I
Speaker 1: don't care. That's it's not it doesn't count.
Speaker 4: Well, have you ever heard that song? It's uh, it's
Speaker 4: fucked me in the ass if you love Jesus, it's
Speaker 4: like a parody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, but it's uh garfolk oats.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's no I assume there's no like stimulation
Speaker 1: in the second in the pollen idol cyst hole.
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 4: I haven't tried, and I personally don't think I would try. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely closed by now. I mean I
Speaker 4: can't really see.
Speaker 1: So is that a thing? Do you think there are
Speaker 1: people out there in like I don't know, BDSM communities
Speaker 1: or whatever who like they're so they they desire to
Speaker 1: have sex on such a crazy kinky level that they
Speaker 1: actually get new holes physically, like surgically created within them. Yes,
Speaker 1: so that they because like they're tired of getting fucked
Speaker 1: in like the mouth or the ass or the vagina,
Speaker 1: they make a new hole, like intentionally.
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone's ever done that?
Speaker 4: I definitely think so. I mean, I mean, anybody can
Speaker 4: really do anything they want, anything they want, It's definitely possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know if you've ever noticed this,
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of weird stuff that people could
Speaker 4: do that's technically not illegal.
Speaker 1: There is there is, I guess it's suicide I think
Speaker 1: is illegal, but like self mutilation isn't illegal. I don't think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean technically no, but I mean there's
Speaker 4: also like body modifications, like for me, I have quite
Speaker 4: a few nose piercings and like tattoos. But I know
Speaker 4: people like you see those people who have like gauges
Speaker 4: and they're feel like something like that that's physically creating
Speaker 4: a new hole.
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone's ever been fucked in the gauge hole?
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, Oh for sure, I would think so
Speaker 4: it might not feel good, but I think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think it feel good for anyone. It would
Speaker 1: be like it would be like if somebody made like
Speaker 1: an okay symbol with their hand and you fucked that.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but I mean also the thing. And
Speaker 4: I don't know if this applies to all men, but
Speaker 4: some men I mean don't fuck anything, so no offense,
Speaker 4: just that offense you, But.
Speaker 1: I fuck, I'd fuck a gauge hole. Why not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just for like just I would fuck a gauge hole,
Speaker 1: just because it would be like, No, I don't I
Speaker 1: would fuck a gauge hole. Not because it would be
Speaker 1: like sex. I don't think it'd be like. I don't
Speaker 1: think there would be eno friction for it to be
Speaker 1: sexually satisfying, but it would be satisfying in the way
Speaker 1: of like did you ever see those like oddly satisfying
Speaker 1: videos on TikTok where like like two things just fit
Speaker 1: in a nice way. If I found a gauge hole
Speaker 1: that was the exact circumference of my penis and I
Speaker 1: could put it in, it fit perfectly. That would that
Speaker 1: might give me an orgasm just from like like from
Speaker 1: the esthetic of not any kind of like actual sexual stimulation.
Speaker 2: Right, that could be cool, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: It doesn't always have to be like the stimulation too,
Speaker 4: so I mean I I could agree.
Speaker 1: Well, good luck. Is the cist still there? Is it gone?
Speaker 4: No, it's been gone. They gave me antibiotics and it
Speaker 4: hasn't come back. But I'm scared it will.
Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see you well.
Speaker 1: Listens as one former pollen idal cyst have her to another. Uh,
Speaker 1: stay strong, my brother, we will. We will get through
Speaker 1: this together.
Speaker 4: Thank you, we will, we will. I appreciate that it's Mackenzie, Mackenzie.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Stay strong and don't stick your dick in anything dangerous.
Speaker 1: That's smart. Well, see you later, dude.
Speaker 4: I hope it's good advice.
Speaker 3: See you later bye.
Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day about what it would
Speaker 1: be like to have sex with Bowser, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like different uh he Bowser's kind of like
Speaker 1: a little BDSM freak. He's got all those like uh
Speaker 1: spiky arm bracelets and leg bracelets and stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: he definitely like if you were at a fuck Bowser
Speaker 1: in the ass and you like late, you would like
Speaker 1: lay down on top of him so that you're kind
Speaker 1: of getting like acupuncture spiked into the stomach and then
Speaker 1: his like spiky tail would be ripping up your ass.
Speaker 1: Well no, because I think his no, because the tail
Speaker 1: is above the ass. So I'm trying to think how
Speaker 1: that would work. I mean, in his matters, he's not real.
Speaker 1: He's a fictional character. But I don't know. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I drank a Celsius before this, And this is not
Speaker 1: to say that Celsius makes you want to fuck Bowser,
Speaker 1: but like you know, I'm just, I'm just I'm on
Speaker 1: one is I guess what I'm saying, all right? The
Speaker 1: Rep Cat goes on the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 1: every night. The repink Can goes doing his night's teaching
Speaker 1: you aloud in the of your life. But he's not
Speaker 1: really an expert.