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Speaker 1: Hello, Well, Hi, who is this?

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Speaker 2: This is Jake? Jake?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: How can I get you today?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. I guess we could talk about

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Speaker 2: what I texted you. Go ahead, only relevant thing going

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Speaker 2: on in my life. Yeah, I guess what I texted

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Speaker 2: you was meth made me a cross dresser?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you said you said smoking meth made you a

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Speaker 1: cross dresser?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, definitely, go aheads, really weird?

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Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me what happens.

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Speaker 2: Shoot, I don't know. I mean it was like probably

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Speaker 2: a little over a year ago. I had kind of

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Speaker 2: fell into smoking dope and had started like having these

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Speaker 2: and shit like that, and.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, before you, before you got any further, like

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Speaker 1: because I usually like smoking dope, I interpret usually to

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Speaker 2: Or Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, okay, I guess like in the meth communities

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Speaker 1: and is do they call it smoking dope?

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Speaker 2: From what I understand? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, sorry interrupt, No.

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Speaker 2: You're good. It started like with like using like apps

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Speaker 2: to you know, like ginger, change your gender and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that, and then I realized, like I live alone,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I started ordering stuff on Amazon and

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Speaker 2: trying stuff out, like dresses and bras and things like that,

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Speaker 2: and here I am a year later, like cross dress

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Speaker 2: every day, Like anytime I'm at home, I'm basically cross dressed.

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Speaker 1: Are you cross dressed right now? Well, I guess you're

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Speaker 1: in a uh Okay, I just for context, you're uh uh.

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Speaker 1: I totally forgot. We're cutting this part out of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But for context, I'm just gonna say this and we

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Speaker 1: that part out. So I was gonna just say, just now,

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Speaker 1: but you're in your car, so I assume you're not

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Speaker 1: cross dressing. But I realized that we're cutting out the

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Speaker 1: so that's why I'm giving the explanation just now. I'm

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, you're in your car right now, so you're not

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I do go out like cross dressed sometimes,

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Speaker 2: like a'll wear like girl jeans and things like that,

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Speaker 2: I am thirty four, I think thirty four to thirty five.

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Speaker 1: And when did you start smoking meth?

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Speaker 2: I mean I first tried it, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: And what was it about? Like, so, I mean, you've

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I've spent so many nights and

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Speaker 1: Sure. So yeah, so anytime you're at home alone, you're

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Speaker 2: Clothing, Yeah, pretty most part. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well and are you Are you having fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I like it. It gives me a lot of comfort

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Speaker 1: Man, you ever do the tuck?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about more of like what's that guy's

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Speaker 1: about more like a buffalo Bill tuck. Yeah, Buffalo Bill

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Speaker 1: All right. So so when you get home, are you

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Speaker 2: I just got some new bras and stuff yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 1: So is this like a is this like uh, I

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Speaker 1: Do where do you? Where do you think this is heading?

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Speaker 2: It's definitely changed my life in quite a bit of ways,

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Speaker 2: Like I started wearing nail polish, or my nails are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me think that like I kind of

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Speaker 1: So you're three or four? You live alone? Are you

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Speaker 1: Do you ever what do you ever wear the clothes

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Speaker 2: I'll wear like girls T shirts and like girls pants

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you still smoking?

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Speaker 1: Well how often you smoking meth?

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Speaker 1: Okay, How is that affecting your life? It doesn't really really,

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Speaker 2: No, I sleep every night. I I still see my

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's a little it's very funny because you

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Speaker 1: I don't it's funny because I just I don't get it,

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Speaker 1: don't get why you've linked it to meth for some reason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only thing I've like looked online

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Speaker 2: Meth made me do like some uh non straight things

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Speaker 2: It's apparently makes people a lot more feminine in some ways.

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Speaker 1: There are other people who are reporting on message boards

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I read that on Kora.

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Speaker 1: Damn is Walter White secretly an LGBT icon you know

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Speaker 1: it's improved your life. I'm not gonna say. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm here.

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Speaker 1: There's a pleasure talking to you, man. I really do

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Speaker 2: Thanks, man, it's been awesome talking you. I never thought

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Speaker 1: Let me know if you quit math sending an Instagram

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Speaker 1: Jake, Jake, Jake? Is there anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: All right, put a long T shirt on, All right?

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Speaker 1: Yack bluss, Hello, what's up man? What's your name? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Pimp pays the pimp?

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Speaker 1: Interesting, It's like, do you know that guy? I just

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Speaker 1: His name is Paeso Plume. What's what is that? Who's

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Speaker 3: That's my mom. They're they're going to burger too.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I'd be yelling too if I was doing.

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Speaker 3: This, but just ignored the background. There my family.

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Speaker 1: They're like planning your trip to Burger King. They're talking

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Speaker 1: Here's the hack. Let me tell you this is with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because normally for me, I got no problems. I

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Speaker 3: Now you're next? Yeah, no, she she's here to in

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Speaker 3: Nice. And how we call it the free world is

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Speaker 3: and I remember that specific inmate. He said something that

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00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 3: got personal to me. So I'm there. It's like, all right,

441
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: it's showtime. Once they opened the cell, it was like

442
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: a horrendous sight. This man put feces all over the

443
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 3: floor and he had a cup filled with piss and

444
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: he was swinging and like swinging it everywhere, like throwing

445
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: pists on everyone. And I'm there. It's like, man, what

446
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: the hell did I sign up for? But anyway we go.

447
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: I tackled him down. He falls down, hits his head

448
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: in the toilet where he basically I knocked and we

449
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: knocked him out and he gained consciousness. And I'll tell you,

450
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 3: this guy's like six foot eight, six foot seven, three

451
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: hundred pounds of muscle. So me and my coworkers were

452
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: we're just on top of this man and he's just

453
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: like he also he was high because we found once

454
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: we searched his cell, we found mass fast off and

455
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: there's a he called they call it. It's like and

456
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: say marijuana. It's called Kate two and it's like it's

457
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: marijuana mixed. We don't know what. Yeah, So we're there,

458
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: like we'll punch in will and he will not give up.

459
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: We will. We will elbow him in the head and

460
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: the mouth. And he was not giving up to the

461
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: point that my coworkers like, oh, I'm on, I'm gonna

462
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: grab his balls and twisted and that did not work.

463
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like Jesus, like your co worker, your coworker,

464
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: Well you guys are authorized to grab someone's balls and

465
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: twist them.

466
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, let's use a force right there. Like for me personally,

467
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: I will not do that. I'll put you in the

468
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: throat because there's a centerpiece in your throat area. It's

469
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: really sensitive. You push in like you run out of air.

470
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: So I punched him in the throw and he stopped

471
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: like this this circulation like he's like started gasping for air.

472
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: But I don't know. My coworkers kind of suss. I

473
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: told it's like you're weird. You know, it's like, why

474
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 3: why is the first thing grab his bass and twisted?

475
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: He's a mess.

476
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: He won't feel nothing. But we I have seen like

477
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: the Turtle squad fight an inmate who is like covered

478
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: with vasilin all over his body and that he's like

479
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: and then they can't put hand restrings on him because

480
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: the hands restrings slips. So they're fighting a guy with

481
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: dick and ball out inside of a tiny little self.

482
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: And you just hear the commotement happened.

483
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: And you ever see uh greased up deaf guy from

484
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: family Guy and it's like a naked guy covered in grease.

485
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: Yes like that, Yes, just like that, just like that,

486
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 3: and you honestly and then the worst part about this job,

487
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: you know, we got to stay clean on purpose, like

488
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: not on purpose, but on all the time. For me,

489
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: I used to smoke a lot. I used to Oh,

490
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: I miss it, I miss it. Oh. I used to

491
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: get really really high and eat edibles. And I miss

492
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: it because I used to work as a custodian and

493
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: I used to get baked before entering to work and

494
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: cleaning restrooms and I forgot. There was this one guy

495
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: that called in that he was a janitor and then

496
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: he used to get drunk at work. Yeah, so I

497
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: kind of related with him. But I used to get

498
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: baked and I'll put on my AirPods drive the big

499
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: machine to clean floors. I miss it a lot, But

500
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: I was getting paid ten bucks in the hour and

501
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: now I'm getting paid like twenty five twenty six in

502
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: an hour. But it comes with consequences because I've seen

503
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: stuff that I don't want to see, and then my

504
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: anger I got anger issues. Now my anger issues are

505
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: max to roof out the roof. And the worst part

506
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: about this is that the prisons and here is that

507
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: they don't have a C. There's no a C. So

508
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: during the summer we have a whole bunch of user

509
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: forces where we had we pepper sprace like. It's mostly

510
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: the idiots who can't control their their anger or who

511
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: cannot like control their inmates that they always get in

512
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: one argument and that argument leads to a use of force.

513
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: For me, I answer the cell block, the put me

514
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: around the cell block entwers like, Hey, look, if y'all

515
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: want to treat be treated like ship, I'll treat.

516
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 4: You like shit.

517
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: If you treat me with respect, you treating with respects.

518
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: It's not a hard job.

519
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: You just gotta be you gotta be chill. Also, I

520
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: think I called for that they suspected me and bringing

521
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: a contraband to the unit, which is kind of fucked up.

522
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that, you sent me a text and

523
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you met. You mentioned that you were suspected of of

524
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: bringing contraband. Yeah, why were you respected? Why were you

525
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: expected of? Why were you suspected of bringing contraband in?

526
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: Look? So this is pretty stupid, man. So we worked

527
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: six days in we have three days off, right, and

528
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: the schedule is weird. But last week I was my

529
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: my Sunday was Saturday, so I was six and Thursday

530
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: and I was six. My I was sick on my

531
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: three days off and on Sday on Easter, I called

532
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: them because I was sick, and my lieutenant I asked me,

533
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, why are you calling it? Oh I'm sick,

534
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: So all right and out of nowhere. That's the main reason, right,

535
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: because I come in Monday. My coworkers like, hey, you

536
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: know they got it like a black list now and

537
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: they say that you're in it. It's like for what

538
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: calling in sick? I got? I kind of like I

539
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: had like a bronchitis type of thing that I gotta

540
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: have a airpump and my coffee was bad. Then I

541
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: go and the next day on Tuesday, I'm driving into work.

542
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: I see my lieutenant outside and my lieutenant pulls me

543
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: out my truck. It's like, hey, we're gonna search your truck.

544
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: And I was like all right, and I was weirdd out,

545
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: And since my truck has a whole bunch of tool,

546
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, why do you have this tool? Why

547
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: do you have this tool? I'm there. It's like I

548
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: was mad. I was like, look, why y'all searching my trucks?

549
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Like it's nothing serious, And it's like, oh, no, we

550
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: suspect you're being contravy. You've been calling in a lot,

551
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: which is stupid. I was like, man, look, I'm going

552
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: through commercial driver license school. I'm trying to get out

553
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: of here. I'm trying to I don't see that.

554
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: That's That's what I was going to ask. That's what

555
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask.

556
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: All right, So.

557
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, one A, look, it's a it's a bummer

558
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: that you know you're having to you know, uh, restrain

559
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: grease s up naked people and get pissed and ship

560
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: thrown at you, and uh, you don't make enough money

561
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: to you know, go get burger kiding. I mean, that's

562
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: that's that's fucking crazy.

563
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no I do. But it's just the payments man,

564
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: usually my car payment and my insurance mm hmm. But now,

565
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: oh yeah, they totaled my car because of some hell damage.

566
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: So I'm free up right now. And I wasted all

567
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: my money right now getting party supplies from my girl.

568
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: So that that's the main that's where all my money went.

569
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Party supplies.

570
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: Food. Yeah, like food, mechanical bull. And she did not

571
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: wanted the mechanical bull. I wanted the mechanical.

572
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Hello, what what what's this party that you're throwing for her?

573
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: Where you have a mechanical she's.

574
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: His birthday party and don't bring a mechanical bull. It's like, man, bro,

575
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: like I'm it's like, it's fun. You never have a

576
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: mechanical bull on your party.

577
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Like you're missing Okay, you're dude, You in real life

578
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: are mechanical bullying. You know, fucking people on meth all

579
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: the time, and so you're gonna get a simulation of

580
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: what you do every day.

581
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Uh, basically it's fun. I like mechanical bulls that. Oh okay,

582
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it like that, but I like

583
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: writing chanical bull Okay.

584
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Anyway, so you're trying to There's a few things I'm

585
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: furious about. One is you said you have anger issues.

586
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, what I knew?

587
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: What? What?

588
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Why are what's making you angry? Uh?

589
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: Honestly, I've been having these angry issues since middle school. Uh.

590
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: I used to get booty booty. I used to get

591
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: booted a lot in middle school. And I was I

592
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: was really quiet, you know. I was a quiet kid

593
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: playing Pokemon like we Pokemon started trending in middle school. Again.

594
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm twenty, by the way, and.

595
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Wait, twenty, I forgot.

596
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm twenty.

597
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: You're only twenty. That's so young to be uh doing

598
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: all this shit.

599
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: My body, I'm years old, but I seel like fifty

600
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: year old man with his body. Man, I'm my body aches.

601
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: I wish, I wish I was just back in middle school,

602
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: you know. But anyway, like in middle school, we used

603
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: to play Pokemon and and financial phrase was coming out,

604
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: and I don't know, some group of kids will take

605
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: on me all the time. I was kind of short

606
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: and chubby. But then I couldn't really do nothing because

607
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: it was just a group of guys, you know, just

608
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 3: picking on me. And then seventh grade they started doing

609
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: Eighth grade if I kind of popped off, you know,

610
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: like I finally got tired of it, and I was,

611
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: you know, I started hunting them down, like one by

612
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: one and I'll start beating the living ship out of

613
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: here until my parents we decided to move out and

614
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: we went up to a country, Spandora, Texas. Yeah. If

615
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: we moved out to Spandora, Texas and it was pretty

616
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: chill there, I kind of found peace, you know because, uh,

617
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: being in the city compared to the country's way different. Man,

618
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm mostly all my friends I made. I was in Spandora,

619
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 3: shout out to the boys, all my favorite Delliery ones,

620
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: and uh there I stopped. I stopt like I felt peace,

621
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: you know. I found people who I was like really

622
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: close with and chilled with until we moved back to

623
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: Houston because my dad found a better job over here

624
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: and the same shit started rolling again, the same people.

625
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: But now I knew how to fight and I knew

626
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: how to defend myself. But it was an everyday thing

627
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: where they started picking on me mentally, and then it

628
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: got to the point where I was like, you know what,

629
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: like I'm tired of this shit, and I tried to

630
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: take my life away, and I don't know, something stopped

631
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: me about it. And I think it was my dog.

632
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: I had this one dog and it was my sister's dog.

633
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: I used to take care of her. But now she

634
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: passed away like two years ago. She was really old

635
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: because I took care of her. She was a baby

636
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: when I was seven, and basically that dog, each time

637
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: I was feeling bad, I would always brush her hair.

638
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: She was like a poodle, so I would brush her hair.

639
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: It would bring me peace to it. And then whenever

640
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: I started working in construction, first as a constori and

641
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: I was just baked all the time, so I found

642
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: everything fun and happy. And then I went into it

643
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: as an electrician, I felt like like, I don't know

644
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: I did that that didn't not felt like my branch.

645
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: But I know I'm a Hispanic and I feel and

646
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm covered with all these Hispanic men who are trying

647
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: to take care of their families and everything. I'm just

648
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: in there just to have a camaro table for camaro.

649
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: And once I got laid off. I entered operator with

650
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: machines and I found then they told me about this

651
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: job of being a correctional officer. They start you off

652
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: twenty three dollars an hour in a training academy, and

653
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: I searched it up on YouTube, like, oh, let's see

654
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: what they do. And I thought, I was like, oh, okay,

655
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: it's easy. Nah, it's way different once you start working

656
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: in this thing, man, and I did not expect it,

657
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: Like I remember the first time they tried to throw

658
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: like a mixture between semens diarrhea and piss at me.

659
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: It was.

660
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: A twenty three year old guy and he was psyching

661
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: out that he didn't have his food tray. And I

662
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: was just like, look, I gave you your food tray.

663
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: You just you're just something's wrong with you, you know.

664
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: And then I remember he said, oh, I got you,

665
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: I got you, and I walked away. This happened to

666
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: restricted housing, so they cannot leave their cell at all.

667
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: They stay in there the whole time every time, and

668
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: the only time they come out is to go take

669
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: a shower. But they got to be a hand restrains.

670
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: And I remember when I walked by, I just seem

671
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: I felt like a like a vibe where I felt

672
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: like I'm just gonna go wrong here. And I stopped,

673
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: and when I stopped, I seemed like a mixture, like

674
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: green stuff flying off the cell. And then he was like, oh,

675
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: you should have gone closer to I could have dashed you.

676
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: That's what I called it, called it dashing. And I'm

677
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: there like, oh no, I'm not having that. So I

678
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: started cussing him out. I got mad, and he was

679
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: going to do it again, but he was trying to

680
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: refill with toilet water. So you can't do this at all.

681
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: If they're inside the cell, you cannot pepper spray them.

682
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: But I did not give a fuck. I went in.

683
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: It's like you're trying to you trying to dash me.

684
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, And I totally to get closer, Like.

685
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: Don't get my friend a bit, my friend? What's what's

686
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: your name again?

687
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Uh?

688
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: The pay so pay so you uh man. In your

689
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: very short career as a human being, you've had pissed

690
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: and ship and come thrown at you a pretty fair

691
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: amount of times, haven't you. So let's do this before

692
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: we go. I want to get this this, Uh, I

693
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: want to get this. I'm curious what, uh, what's next

694
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: for you man? Because you're you're doing all this crazy

695
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: stuff and this is crazy. It clearly has you know,

696
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think working at Arkham Asylum is

697
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: good for anyone's mental health, and so, uh, what's next

698
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: for you? What are you going to do? First of all,

699
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: you should try to talk to a real therapist because

700
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: you seem like, you know, you do seem like a

701
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: smart guy who's self aware. You know, I mean a

702
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of people they have these kind of issues and

703
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: they just they let them fucking run wild and control

704
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: their lives and and never address it and never do

705
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: anything to fix it. So, you know, I mean, being

706
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: self aware about the fact that you, you know, have

707
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: anger issues and things that you need to get fixed

708
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: is smart. I'll say, I'm curious, I'm curious what do

709
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: you want to do next? Because you're you're trying to

710
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean, for twenty five bucks an hour, you can

711
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: find better jobs that don't involve you know, getting getting

712
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: having that do not involve cups of diarrhea in any capacity.

713
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: So what do you want to do next?

714
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going to school to get my commercial

715
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: driver license, so I could just you know, I like

716
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: driving so and honestly, if I sound like a kid

717
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 3: when I said I wish I could be a race

718
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: race car driver, but you know, the money is expensive

719
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: to start doing a career race car driver.

720
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Dude, Well, it's something where you're not going to get killed.

721
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: I don't know why everyone wants to do something where

722
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: they can get stabbed or in a fiery accident, you know.

723
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but all right now I'm just gonna be

724
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: chilling driving big trucks. Yeah yeah, man. I've been listening

725
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: to you for a while, and honestly, I thought I

726
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: was never going to be in Each time I was

727
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: listening to you, I was like, man, I could be

728
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: in there. You know, I have my my Spotify the

729
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 3: Spotify episode and listen to my own voice in the radio,

730
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, man, I wish you know the

731
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: rate of the stereo or whatever they call it.

732
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: Well, well listen pay so good good luck.

733
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: Man.

734
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: I wish I was more helpful on this, but I

735
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: met what I said.

736
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: I think you're a.

737
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: I think you should. You should read it. Reel it

738
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: in right, reel it in right. You have a fiance,

739
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: did you say fiance?

740
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, she's the best. She's the best.

741
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: You're getting married, not.

742
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Yet legally, but you know, I propose to her.

743
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, because I see I see within you.

744
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: I see within you a commendable, respectable family man who's

745
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, waking up every day, uh you know, happy

746
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: and proud of his life. You know, I see that

747
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: in your future, just like you know, if you can

748
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: get a get a handle on the the anger issues

749
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: and uh you know again, work in a place where

750
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: you're not getting diarrhea thrown at you all the time.

751
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, I see a nice, a nice future for yourself. So,

752
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, hold steady. My friend pays so the pimp

753
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, and look, I'm not here to

754
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: tell anyone what to do or criticize anyone's life decisions

755
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but you know, I mean maybe

756
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: pay so. I don't know, pimp, I mean, pimps is

757
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: just so strong, can we? Is there anything else? Any

758
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: any other good p words? Then pimp? Hey, so the

759
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: commendable person.

760
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: Pay so the Yeah yeah, yeah, they.

761
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: So the commendable person, let's do that. I'm sestimely streeting

762
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: your fucking name. But so, is there anything else you want?

763
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: To say to the people of the computer before we go.

764
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh wait, someone, I'm sorry, I'm looking at the chat

765
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: right now. Somebody said, pay so the punctual that's good.

766
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Like if you're about if you're applying for a job

767
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: and someone's like, oh, this guy's very punctual.

768
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: That's that sounds nice. No, but uh, honestly, I got

769
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: nothing to say but chill choo choo. Okay, then she

770
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: just came in to bother me. But yeah, honestly, there's

771
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people who say a lot of motivate

772
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: stuff before they leave the phone call. But I got nothing.

773
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to ask you when you come in

774
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: the Houston.

775
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: I'm coming to Houston in September, my friend, I'm coming

776
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: to I'm coming back to uh the secret group with

777
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: a great venue in Houston, Texas for for comedy. Yeah,

778
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: so I'll be there in September. I'm very excited.

779
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: Come. Yeah, I will buy your ticket no matter what,

780
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: because I've seen whenever you were posting the cities and

781
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 3: the dates, I was like, man, I won't see Houston.

782
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: I'll be in Houston September. Don't go into debt, don't

783
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: take out a loan, to get a ticket. But yeah

784
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: you can.

785
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a pull up, all right. I'm gonna try.

786
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get back a little well. I

787
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: do see a little belly on me, but I'll be

788
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: shredded when I get in there.

789
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah enough, put in some reps with that mechanical bull

790
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: and you'll have a six pack in no time. Here's

791
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: what Here's what I'll do. And this is the last

792
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: thing I'll say. Here's what we'll do is you'll fucking

793
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: uh go go train on the mechanical bowl and then

794
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little piggyback ride and I'll try

795
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: to buck you off. And if you can last on

796
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: my back for a full sixty seconds, you know, I'll

797
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: give you a T shirt or something. Yes, you got it,

798
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: you got it, all right, take care of me. So

799
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: thanks for calling them, all right, thank you, mister?

800
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: How to go work?

801
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: Hi?

802
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: Hi? What is your name?

803
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: My name is McKenzie.

804
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: How am I I'm doing okay, I am feeling good.

805
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm feeling caffeinated and dressed. I've noticed. That's really the

806
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: thing is, you know a lot of the times like

807
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: I'll be if you're ever like just laying in bed,

808
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: and your underwear and you're depressed, Just get dressed and

809
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: go outside and you will feel so much better. All

810
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: you have to do is get dressed. It's like, it's

811
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: really the little things. I mean, I mean, granted, I'm

812
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: dressed in a I'm not really dressed. I'm in a

813
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: gecko costume, which is a version of dressed. But I

814
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: am wearing enough clothes to go outside and not get arrested.

815
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: And that is, I think, the barometer by which we

816
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: should all live. But how are you, Mackenzie?

817
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: What was it?

818
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: What is it you want to talk about today?

819
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 4: Yeah? So, my sister is a very huge fan, huge fan,

820
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 4: and so am I. So we listen and she thought

821
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: it would be funny if I told my story. She

822
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: calls it my second butthole.

823
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: You have a second butthole?

824
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, technically not really, it's so long story. Sure, I

825
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: had to go to the emergency room. I had large

826
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 4: lump on the top of my butt crack. This is

827
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: kind of nasty, but it turns out ultimately it was cellulitis,

828
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: and my sister kind of it's you know, inside joke

829
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: now because she initially was like squeezing it. It's a

830
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: really nasty.

831
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, real is this we actually we did

832
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: a whole episode about this. If you go is this

833
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: is this a pollen idyl cyst?

834
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: I think so.

835
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: I think that's what it was.

836
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: There was a there's a if you go back into

837
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: the archives of Therapy, getto there's a whole episode about

838
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: it's called the pollen idyl cyst. Yeah, I had a

839
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: pollen idyl cyst. Uh fucking five years ago. Maybe it's

840
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: a big lump on the top of the Yeah, it's painful. Yeah, painful,

841
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: that's not really but a whole is con cave and

842
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: the assist is convex. I would say, well, that's.

843
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 4: The thing it was because it was like it got

844
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 4: so bad because I thought it was just like an

845
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: ingrown hair, and so I was trying to I was

846
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: trying to avoid going to the er, and I was

847
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 4: just trying to like treat it at home. So that's

848
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: why she was squeezing it initially. But it got super painful,

849
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: like to the point where I couldn't even sit down anymore.

850
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: And so when they squeezed it, it was like literally

851
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: just a hole from the where the infection was.

852
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: You have a kind of it's kind of I mean,

853
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I guess kind is the word. Uh, it's kind of

854
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: your sister to squeeze your pollen idol sister for you.

855
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're super close, super super close, and that always

856
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: thoughts closer.

857
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what are you going to

858
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: do for her in return?

859
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 4: That is a good question. It's still definitely an open favor.

860
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: But I mean anything that she would ask of me,

861
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 4: I would do it anyway. So we're just that close.

862
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So, uh so it made a hole that

863
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: you call your second butthole.

864
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well she calls in my second but hole. I'm

865
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 4: still kind of embarrassed about it. It happened a couple

866
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: months ago, but yeah, because it's funny because that's I

867
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: started talking to this guy and then it happened like

868
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: right after we started talking, and I couldn't tell him

869
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: about it because we had only been talking for like

870
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: a week. And that's embarrassing.

871
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: That's sixth base right there is if someone, uh, let's

872
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: fist their pollen idyl cystole.

873
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know about that one, and I

874
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: don't think I would let.

875
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: Him do that.

876
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that's definitely you should definitely save that

877
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: for marriage. I agree.

878
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, saving saving the second butt hole for marriage is

879
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: I think the best way to go.

880
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of like, well, you know how there's

881
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: that loophole where it's like if you if it's just

882
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: anal it's not. They call it the poophole loophole where

883
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: like God like for Christian people like if you if

884
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: God doesn't care if you have premarital sex. The song

885
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: it's in the butthole, I think that applies to the

886
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: second butthole too, So you could get a person could

887
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: get d peed in their first and second butthole and

888
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: God would you know, be like, yeah, go wild, I

889
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: don't care. That's it's not it doesn't count.

890
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: Well, have you ever heard that song? It's uh, it's

891
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: fucked me in the ass if you love Jesus, it's

892
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: like a parody.

893
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, but it's uh garfolk oats.

894
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

895
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's no I assume there's no like stimulation

896
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: in the second in the pollen idol cyst hole.

897
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: Probably not.

898
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: I haven't tried, and I personally don't think I would try. Yeah,

899
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely closed by now. I mean I

900
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: can't really see.

901
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: So is that a thing? Do you think there are

902
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: people out there in like I don't know, BDSM communities

903
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: or whatever who like they're so they they desire to

904
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: have sex on such a crazy kinky level that they

905
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: actually get new holes physically, like surgically created within them. Yes,

906
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: so that they because like they're tired of getting fucked

907
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: in like the mouth or the ass or the vagina,

908
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: they make a new hole, like intentionally.

909
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: Is that?

910
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone's ever done that?

911
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: I definitely think so. I mean, I mean, anybody can

912
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: really do anything they want, anything they want, It's definitely possible.

913
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

914
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know if you've ever noticed this,

915
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 4: but there's a lot of weird stuff that people could

916
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 4: do that's technically not illegal.

917
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: There is there is, I guess it's suicide I think

918
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: is illegal, but like self mutilation isn't illegal. I don't think.

919
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean technically no, but I mean there's

920
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: also like body modifications, like for me, I have quite

921
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: a few nose piercings and like tattoos. But I know

922
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: people like you see those people who have like gauges

923
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: and they're feel like something like that that's physically creating

924
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: a new hole.

925
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone's ever been fucked in the gauge hole?

926
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, Oh for sure, I would think so

927
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: it might not feel good, but I think so.

928
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: I don't think it feel good for anyone. It would

929
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: be like it would be like if somebody made like

930
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: an okay symbol with their hand and you fucked that.

931
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but I mean also the thing. And

932
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if this applies to all men, but

933
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: some men I mean don't fuck anything, so no offense,

934
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: just that offense you, But.

935
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: I fuck, I'd fuck a gauge hole. Why not? Yeah,

936
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: just for like just I would fuck a gauge hole,

937
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: just because it would be like, No, I don't I

938
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: would fuck a gauge hole. Not because it would be

939
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: like sex. I don't think it'd be like. I don't

940
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: think there would be eno friction for it to be

941
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: sexually satisfying, but it would be satisfying in the way

942
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: of like did you ever see those like oddly satisfying

943
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: videos on TikTok where like like two things just fit

944
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: in a nice way. If I found a gauge hole

945
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: that was the exact circumference of my penis and I

946
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: could put it in, it fit perfectly. That would that

947
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: might give me an orgasm just from like like from

948
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: the esthetic of not any kind of like actual sexual stimulation.

949
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: Right, that could be cool, exactly exactly.

950
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: It doesn't always have to be like the stimulation too,

951
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: so I mean I I could agree.

952
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, good luck. Is the cist still there? Is it gone?

953
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: No, it's been gone. They gave me antibiotics and it

954
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: hasn't come back. But I'm scared it will.

955
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see you well.

956
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: Listens as one former pollen idal cyst have her to another. Uh,

957
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: stay strong, my brother, we will. We will get through

958
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: this together.

959
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: Thank you, we will, we will. I appreciate that it's Mackenzie, Mackenzie.

960
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

961
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

962
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: Stay strong and don't stick your dick in anything dangerous.

963
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: That's smart. Well, see you later, dude.

964
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 4: I hope it's good advice.

965
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: See you later bye.

966
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day about what it would

967
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: be like to have sex with Bowser, because there's a

968
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of like different uh he Bowser's kind of like

969
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: a little BDSM freak. He's got all those like uh

970
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: spiky arm bracelets and leg bracelets and stuff. You know,

971
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: he definitely like if you were at a fuck Bowser

972
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: in the ass and you like late, you would like

973
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: lay down on top of him so that you're kind

974
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: of getting like acupuncture spiked into the stomach and then

975
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: his like spiky tail would be ripping up your ass.

976
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Well no, because I think his no, because the tail

977
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: is above the ass. So I'm trying to think how

978
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: that would work. I mean, in his matters, he's not real.

979
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: He's a fictional character. But I don't know. I'm sorry,

980
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: I drank a Celsius before this, And this is not

981
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: to say that Celsius makes you want to fuck Bowser,

982
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: but like you know, I'm just, I'm just I'm on

983
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: one is I guess what I'm saying, all right? The

984
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: Rep Cat goes on the line taking your phone calls

985
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: every night. The repink Can goes doing his night's teaching

986
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: you aloud in the of your life. But he's not

987
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: really an expert.