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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys, welcome to another episode of The Cowboys Break.

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Speaker 1: Nick why are you laughing? I don't know, but remember

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Speaker 1: Garcia at your host for the day with all right,

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Speaker 1: gang NICKI, David Hellman. We have a very unusual guest

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Speaker 1: on the show, mister Derek. Wow. How are you? Derek?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Anything you would like to say to your

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Speaker 1: fans out there that have been missing you? Any numbers

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Speaker 1: you want to provide? Well, it is episode number twelve,

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Speaker 1: No A number eleven. I'm sorr episode number eleven and

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Speaker 1: my kids. How many episodes of those of those eleven?

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Speaker 1: Have you been here for three? I knew I was

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Speaker 1: have things to do. I have other business responsibilities in

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Speaker 1: the building. Boss stuff, yeah, boss man, boss man doing.

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Speaker 1: Of course, last week was more personal, but most of

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Speaker 1: Thank joining us, Thank you. I'll take care of your

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Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed listening to the show with her hosting,

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Speaker 1: So that's why she's doing it today. You got Tony Romode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Wally pips, say Tony. Okay, well let's jump right into

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Speaker 1: this whole show. I'm just gonna run through the list

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Speaker 1: of the guys that didn't practice yesterday. Terence William, Ellie Collins,

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Speaker 1: What if you just list the guys who did anything

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Speaker 1: He got an injury, an injury on his ankle, nothing serious,

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Speaker 1: not a big deal, but it was more a precautionary

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Speaker 1: which prompted the questions from fans asking this whole thing

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Speaker 1: the season. How is that? And this is hard to answer,

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Speaker 1: but help me out here and try to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: How is this? How could the Cowboys possibly prevent this

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Speaker 1: from happening again? I think they can prevent it by

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Speaker 1: they'd be a lot more upset if they just pushed

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Speaker 1: six months, So I think the Cowboys were doing exactly

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Speaker 1: what you should do at this point. It's just get

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Speaker 1: So in case this happens again, let's say with some

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Speaker 1: is saying that, Like, well, Scott Linahan wants him here.

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426
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427
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429
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Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, well count Tavon as a running back,

431
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Speaker 1: Like that doesn't help you, Like you still need enough

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Speaker 1: calling him a running back doesn't mean you can now

434
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Speaker 1: go along at receiver because he doesn't help you like

435
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Speaker 1: times in a game, right, right, Okay, he's a gag

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Speaker 1: discuss who these guys' favorite white receiver is? At this point,

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Speaker 1: Derek lost his turn because he already gave it away

489
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Speaker 1: Taborn Austin. But have another one? Okay? Anything else you

490
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Speaker 1: want to say Derek on this matter? Sure it would

491
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Speaker 1: be I'll throw mine out first. It's still for me.

492
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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, I actually am excited that this year I

493
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Speaker 1: want to see if Cowboys can figure out a way

494
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Speaker 1: to create mismatches and create opportunities for him. I think

495
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Speaker 1: last year, way too often he was being taken out

496
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Speaker 1: of opportunities to be able to catch the ball. And

497
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Speaker 1: I think if the Cowboys think of some more creative

498
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Speaker 1: ways to get him open, I think he can be

499
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Speaker 1: a really valuable asset for them. And so I'm hopeful

500
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Speaker 1: that they'll do that, and I think if they do it,

501
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Speaker 1: I actually believe when it's all said and done, Cole

502
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Speaker 1: could leave this team in receptions. Do you see that

503
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Speaker 1: happening with the Cowboys now not having players such as

504
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Speaker 1: Jason Witten, that's Brian on the team, right, do you

505
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: think now other teams, I mean, they're gonna be able

506
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Speaker 1: to find or see all some of this new guys

507
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Speaker 1: as a threat to where Cole Beasley is now getting

508
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Speaker 1: open or I think the way I look at it is,

509
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Speaker 1: I think it's about what you do with your offensive

510
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Speaker 1: skill players to create opportunities for them. Way too often

511
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Speaker 1: we see the Cowboys opponents using rub routes and that

512
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and it kills the Cowboys, and I

513
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: wish they would do more of that kind of stuff.

514
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Speaker 1: I think there are ways that the Cowboys could try

515
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Speaker 1: to get guys like Cole Beasley open because he's the

516
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Speaker 1: type of receiver that I think. He's got good athleticism,

517
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Speaker 1: he's quick, he catches the ball well, you get him

518
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Speaker 1: a little bit of space, I think he can actually

519
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Speaker 1: make some plays for you. So I'm hopefully that they'll

520
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Speaker 1: actually find ways, they'll look for ways try to be

521
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Speaker 1: creative to get him open rather than just kind of

522
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Speaker 1: matching him up in the slot and whatever happens happens.

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Speaker 1: I think that that might be that's to me, not

524
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Speaker 1: taking advantage of the opportunity you have with him. Yeah. Enough,

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Speaker 1: that's a good choice, Okay, Nick, And the question his

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Speaker 1: favorite receiver at this point, yeahs based on everything that

527
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Speaker 1: you've seen so far, idots, based on everything I've seen. Okay,

528
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Speaker 1: because I'm my favorite receiver is Katie Cannon. That's the

529
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Speaker 1: one I want to make the team because your boy. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: because when he was not getting drafted, I was like,

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Speaker 1: why aren't the Cowboys drafting this guy? Why aren't they

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Speaker 1: signing him in free agency? Then he got cut a

533
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Speaker 1: couple of times, why aren't they bringing him in? And

534
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Speaker 1: I even asked the question to two coaches and to

535
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Speaker 1: personnel guys. I'm like, this guy is better than the

536
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Speaker 1: six guys you've got I've said that. Now, how's he

537
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Speaker 1: done enough? Right now? Is he still on the best six?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's got a shot for it.

539
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: It's he can run. I'm not gonna say, well, he's

540
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Speaker 1: not getting the opportunities because he's not gonna get as

541
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Speaker 1: many opportunities. This is what happens. I mean, but you

542
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Speaker 1: got to earn it when you get it. I think

543
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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna He even said it himself. He's

544
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Speaker 1: got to learn the playbook a little bit more, but

545
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Speaker 1: from a speed standpoint, he's got it. He's just gonna

546
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Speaker 1: have to play. He's gonna have to be one of

547
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Speaker 1: those guys that makes plays in preseason games when he

548
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: gets chances and stuff. But um so he's my favorite

549
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: guy kind of as a you know, pet cat type.

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Speaker 1: Um But a guy that I'm really interested in the

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Speaker 1: most would be Tavon just because I think he's he

552
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Speaker 1: gives you that speed element, he gives different things, and

553
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Speaker 1: if he's going laterally then I think it'll open up

554
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Speaker 1: things more vertically for other receivers like a Gallup or

555
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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams or maybe Deonte. I'm on the Herns train

556
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Speaker 1: here I'm here. I like this variety of picks. You know,

557
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Speaker 1: everybody we Well, Beasley's gonna make the team, like Alan

558
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns is gonna start at the X. I mean,

559
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Speaker 1: he's just he's gonna get all that opportunity. The rest

560
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Speaker 1: of this is kind of conjecture, you know. I mean,

561
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Speaker 1: Katie Can's got a chance to make the team. Noah

562
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Speaker 1: Brown has been my pet cat for since he got drafted.

563
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Speaker 1: But Alan Herns is gonna get a lot of opportunities

564
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Speaker 1: to show what he can do. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: up to it too. So he's probably the most if

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Speaker 1: you look at just overall the the the accomplishments on

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Speaker 1: the field statistically, of this wide receiver corps, he's by

568
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: far the most accomplished to this group. You know, but

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you it's sort of like you read my

570
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: column because that like you were just getting but hey,

571
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Speaker 1: you were just saying. You were like, oh, you think

572
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the six? Well I think

573
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: there could be seven, honestly, But regardless, I was writing

574
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: this column and I was like, well, yeah, Alan Hearns

575
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: is the most accomplished receiver on this team. Beasley and

576
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Terrence to both have more career catches than him. Really, yeah,

577
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: that none of them, No one has had a better

578
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: year than he had. He is two or three years

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Speaker 1: the only receiver on this team with a one thousand

580
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: yards seas right, But Terrence has him beat by like

581
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty catches for career. Is that because he's

582
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: had a longer career or they had the same career,

583
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: came in around the same time, a little longer career

584
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: and probably a better quarterback from a Well, that's also

585
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: the part of it that you have number is too.

586
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: The quarterback that Hearns was with had one great year

587
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: and that was the year that Hearns had a great year.

588
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: Outside of that, his quarterback has been really bad. Crap

589
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: on him however much you want, but he's been pretty bad.

590
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: Terrence has never missed the game in his pro career,

591
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So that's good thing. He was on

592
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Speaker 1: the list that we just did top thing pencil and

593
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: this is just me speaking, but we'll miss a game

594
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Speaker 1: this year. Herns, Terrence Cole, and I think Tavon Austin

595
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: are locks to make the team, assuming no injuries and

596
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Oh I'm sorry, you're right, and they're okay,

597
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: So you already got five that are definite. That's I mean,

598
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: I think so. So they're all battling for one to

599
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: two spots basically all the rest of the running back,

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00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: which is why I think. I mean, uh, you know,

601
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: you talk about you got it, what you you got

602
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: one hundred receivers and ninety nine of them haven't done

603
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: anything well, quality over quantity. Then I mean, if you

604
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: can find a way to keep seven, maybe you do that,

605
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: and you can change that as the season goes along

606
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: and guys kind of show their stuff. But problem is

607
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: you need to keep five tight ends. See I'm thinking

608
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: three tight ends. Tight ends are not gonna I don't

609
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Speaker 1: think tight end will be as big of a position,

610
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Speaker 1: Like they won't use the tight end as much as

611
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: they use the tight end three and a half. I

612
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: think when they want to go big, they'd rather just

613
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: bring an extra offensive rather than having two or three

614
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: tight ends on the field. You know, Yeah, well, what

615
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna say? I was telling him, I don't

616
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Speaker 1: know if you heard that, Olah, wally is could be

617
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: some tight ends. Well so he's James Hannah. Yeah, okay,

618
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I was wanting to jump now over to the defense side.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest topics during the off season, aside

620
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: from the whole desk Bryan and then went in, it

621
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: was Byron Jones and his whole change of position moving

622
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Speaker 1: out to the corner. After seeing three weeks of Oltas,

623
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: what were your impressions of Byron being at corner? Now?

624
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: How has he been doing at that position? For me personally,

625
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I haven't noticed that being a problem, which is a

626
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: good thing when you're talking about the corner. So I

627
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: think he's you know, he's he's picking it up well.

628
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: And remember there's a reason why he moved, just because

629
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Speaker 1: it's the preference of the defensive backs coach christ Richard.

630
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, he likes to guys to play a certain

631
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: way and they wants him to have a kind of

632
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: a certain size to him. And so so far, so good,

633
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I think, But then again, he goes back to what

634
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: we just talked about. Is anybody really, you know, challenging

635
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: him to the point where he's exposing him? So right now,

636
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: I think it's been okay. He made a really great

637
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: breakup on a pass last week, like great, Other than that,

638
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, it's so hard to judge stuff

639
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: like like, yeah, training camp is so much easier because

640
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: there's one on ones every day and it's a little

641
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, the team periods are more physical and we're

642
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: allowed like full access to the field so you can

643
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: go down right on the line of scrimmage. So from

644
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: from fifty yards away for two hours a week, he

645
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: looks fine to me. And what's going to be really hard.

646
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I think this year during OTAs and training camp is

647
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: really going to be trying to evaluate these cornerbacks because

648
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: there is no great wide receiver on the opposite side.

649
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna face guys like you always, I mean

650
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: last year, over the last several years, you always can

651
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: gauge kind of how good a cornerback is playing when

652
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: he up against Diz, because Dez has just these remarkable

653
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: skills that being able to defend him shows you a

654
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: little bit more about the cornerback. I don't think there's

655
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: a receiver like that right now on this team. This

656
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: is a team that again is going to rely on

657
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: the quantity of receivers and finding the open guy versus

658
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: having one stud guy. So when you go up against

659
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Atlanta and that's when you're gonna find out a lot

660
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: about these cornerbacks when they have to face a guy

661
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: like Julio Jones. You won't see that during training. That's

662
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: a really great point. Yeah, gotta be saved that for

663
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. Gotta be good for you. I'll

664
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: be careful about falling into that trap this year and

665
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: people are still mad at us for blowing up and

666
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: last year, oh about training camp and then yeah, you

667
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: let me down this road. You can only talk about

668
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: what you see, but just be careful. We think we

669
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: have to be really careful this year about that with

670
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: a cornerback. You remember, and this might be a segue.

671
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what's on your list, but this might.

672
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: You remember a few years ago when we were really

673
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: really worried about Tyrant Smith because DeMarcus Ware was just

674
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: wearing him killing them in training camp, like this is

675
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: not good. It's great for DeMarcus. He still got it.

676
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: As the year turned out, one of them made the

677
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl for the first time and the other one

678
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: was the game games and kind of was kind of

679
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: limped through the finish line or to the finish line there.

680
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: So sometimes which see in camp isn't always what happens here. Okay,

681
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: well we'll get into the safety position a little bit.

682
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Let's just keep talking about DeMarcus Ware and his involvement

683
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: here on the team and how the things he's been doing.

684
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty impressive. And you look at the guy,

685
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: how fit and healthy he looks, and how he's out

686
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: there helping these guys out. I mean, what, how can

687
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: this impact the players that he's helping out? Can my

688
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: guy get a contract? My god? If he wanted to

689
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: play good? I mean he looks, yeah, he's ready to go.

690
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's training for. I guess just

691
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: because you follow on Twitter, he's working out every day.

692
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: I know that's I'm like, I saw a picture I

693
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: think maybe on the website. I don't know, but I

694
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: saw a picture and I had to go back and

695
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: Dustin Marcus. Where am I wait? Was that is that him? Yeah?

696
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: It is, And he's a guy that has been stopped

697
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: it there. I'm in the news business now. So anyways, Um,

698
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: one of the guys that he has spoken about is

699
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, and he's seen the progress and development on

700
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: a guy like Taco, a guy that has been criticized

701
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: by many on Twitter and people that keep asking, is

702
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Tacko gonna step up this year and be better? Have

703
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: you guys seen any progress from Taco? And I know

704
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell right now, but is that something

705
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: that leads you to think that he's gonna be really?

706
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, impact makes some kind of seen a

707
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: huge improvement in one area. Confidence. He's very confident now. Um,

708
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: just in some of the interviews we've seen him, he's

709
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: just old Daddy Taco right now. He says he's the

710
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: best trash best trash talker in the on the team

711
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: right now. And as we talked he said, as we

712
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: talked about last week, is beat tyrant Smith twice in

713
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: a row talk trash to him and then we'll be

714
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: on board with that. But I think what really what

715
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: DeMarcus said is maturity's the number one thing he's seen

716
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: out of him. And he's got different tools in the

717
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: toolbox for this year, so that he's showing the you know,

718
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: at least he's showing it to DeMarcus. It's a little

719
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: tricky with him though, I mean, he's not here all

720
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: the time. He's here, he's a consultant, he's here. He's

721
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: also with the Broncos, so I mean, he goes from

722
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Denver here, so he's seeing von Miller and then he

723
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: comes here. So I mean, I'm just saying that differ.

724
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're not here all the time, so you're

725
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: not seeing every every day, every practice and all that.

726
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: But still you got the all time leading sack artist

727
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: in Cowboys history helping out. I'm sure. I mean, sure

728
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: it's good, but you know, that's all nice, but at

729
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the players still got to play.

730
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had Haley here. Hay he comes around,

731
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: he talks to the guys, whatever he does with the

732
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: guys and tries to give them tips and that kind

733
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: of stuff. I don't I don't know that that necessarily

734
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: changes anything. There's certain certainly probably things they can pick

735
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: up from them, But at the end of the day,

736
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: they got coaches, they got people that are already investing

737
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: in trying to develop them. But then Marcus gets in

738
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: there and like you, I get all that and to

739
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: trust me, I'm not saying that that couldn't be, like

740
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: they can't learn things from him, but at the end

741
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: of the day, they're not him, and and sometimes you know,

742
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Michael Jordan Michael. You know, Michael

743
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: Jordan's not a coach because Michael Jordan knows how to

744
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: do things that other people. Yeah, yeah, you just tell them.

745
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: But just when he gets just take him by the

746
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: jersey and just shove him back. Right, Can you just

747
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: repeat what I did? Like, isn't that hard to do?

748
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: Can you just do it? It's not it's not the same, right,

749
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: Guys that have had to work their way to maybe

750
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: they have a lot more tools to be able to sing.

751
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean, who's the greatest defensive I mean, who's the

752
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: greatest coach in NFL history that was a great player?

753
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: Oh Man, Mike Ditka Yeah, single Terry. But he wasn't

754
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: a great coach coach I'm trying to think. I mean,

755
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: you know you just Skerm Edwards. You see like good

756
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: solid players like you know, yeah, no they don't. Tomlin

757
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: was a plan you know, Jeff Fisher, Dungee, they were

758
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: they were just you know, they were. Dune was probably

759
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: the best. He's a Hall of Fame coach. He was

760
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: a player. I'm talking about right now, like a was

761
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: a player. No no, no play no, no, I'm not

762
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about great player, great coach. Yeah,

763
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: because DeMarcus. DeMarcus was asked twice yesterday and I don't

764
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: know if he changed his mind in about sixteen minutes,

765
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: but he was asked once an interview that I was

766
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: I was at and he was like, are you gonna

767
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: be a coach one day? And he was like no. God.

768
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Then later I hear, Yeah, DeMarcus talked in the locker

769
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: room and he said he one day he wants to

770
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: be a coach. I was like, oh, oh, what changed

771
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: his mind? Mike Doocey, It was awesome, Like he he

772
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: was like, well, you you kind of want to scratch

773
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: this itch, but you know you can make better money

774
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: doing like TV and stuff and where it was like, yeah, absolutely.

775
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: Dick Lebow was he a great player? I don't know

776
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: he he played in the thirties, right, he played a

777
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: long time ago? But night at night train lane? Who

778
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever? Train lane? Okay, I have no idea. Okay,

779
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: let's jump into the safety position. We have to we

780
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: kind of do and say, is this our weekly reference

781
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: to another safety? Like is that what we just know? No?

782
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: This is me and Amber's weekly like worry fact. Nick

783
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: implies something about the Seattle, same script every week. All right,

784
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go through the pace. I just wanted

785
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this scenario. We know the

786
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys having guy any of you guys obviously at the

787
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: safety position. It's not too early to do that early

788
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: they wanted to do that. Sorry, grant me the serenda.

789
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: We know that the guys has spoken about the possibility

790
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of moving some of the corners to the safety position

791
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: to help out there if needed. Now. Cheeto a woozy

792
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: kind of talked about it yesterday in regards to if

793
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: they asked him too, He's ready, he could play any

794
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: of the any position there, he could do it. But

795
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: he did say that he as of right now, the

796
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: talk is he is a corner and that's where he's

797
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna be at now. If that happens and Cheeto is

798
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: moved to safety for any reason, why would be your

799
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: expectations there and how would that secondary now look and

800
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: change if that was to happen. What I've always I've

801
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: hated this topic of conversation since they brought it up

802
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: after the draft, and that's because we just sat here saying,

803
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: what can you really learn from OTAs? You know, like

804
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: it's shorts, it's blah blah blah. And I think you

805
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: made the really good point last week that like you

806
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: can tell who's picking up the playbook in the scheme

807
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: during this period. But Byron's played safety and Cheeto has

808
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: done everything during the course of his career, So like,

809
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: neither one of those guys is gonna I trust that

810
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: both of them can pick all of this up. So, like,

811
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: what are you learning here that's going to prompt you

812
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: to make that switch? Basically? You know what I mean, Like,

813
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: what what are these three weeks really going to show

814
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: you where you're like, well, we gotta move somebody. I

815
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: could kind of answer that, I mean, at least least

816
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what you look at a couple

817
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: of players number when you're looking in at Xavier Woods,

818
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: You're looking at you know, how has he given you

819
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: the confidence to play that position that we don't need

820
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: to make that move? Or on the flip side, or

821
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: their cornerbacks that are in that mix, like Anthony Brown

822
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: playing really well, Jordan Lewis playing really well. Is there

823
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: a young guys is there Duke Thomas? Is there somebody

824
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: that's that's stepping up to that point where you're like,

825
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: our depth at corner is way better than our depth

826
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: at safety. That's where I could see that happening and

827
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: making a move. We've seen it before. When what's better

828
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: tackle or end? And that's where Tyrone Crawford's gonna go accordingly,

829
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: But do you think that Cheeto right now is one

830
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: of your best two corners? Yes? Yes, yeah, Because if

831
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: he's one of your best two corners, I don't like

832
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: the idea of taking one of your best also starting

833
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: guys and moving them to another another. Another thing I

834
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: really hate, just at any position, is like, well we've

835
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: got really good depth, let's get rid of some of it.

836
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: I hate that it's so dumb Celtics are about to

837
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: do that. Um So, I mean, Byron's not gonna get

838
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: anywhere unless you let him get comfortable at a position,

839
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: and I until I'm proven otherwise. I have sky high

840
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: expectations for what Cheeto can be as a corner, So

841
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of moving either one of them.

842
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I guess to answer your question more directly, if you're

843
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: gonna play Cheeto at safety, then I would assume then

844
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: it would you your trio would be Byron Brown and

845
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: Jordan in whatever whoever you want to play the slot.

846
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Brown and Jordan can both play either, so and whatever.

847
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: The weird part here is, you know, Xavier Woods is

848
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Speaker 1: kind of like the Tavon Austin on the other side,

849
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Speaker 1: because he kind of can do a little bit of both.

850
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: As he said, safety is he corner, is he slot?

851
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Guy can do so he's a wildcard to me in

852
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that scenario, even if he doesn't start at safety. But

853
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: which I will say one thing, and I don't know

854
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: much about him, but maybe we're not doing enough credit

855
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: to Mark queston Huff. He's a forgotten guy and this

856
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: whole thing. They brought him in early in the offseason.

857
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: He runs with the second team right now. Maybe they

858
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: trust that he can push Xavier Woods. I haven't. I

859
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen him do anything bad, but I haven't seen

860
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: him do anything great out here. I don't really know

861
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: what to think of him. But every time I think

862
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: about this, I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that guy.

863
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'd like to see though, on passing

864
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: down specifically, I'd like to see maybe what they do

865
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: is just get their best guys out there. If that

866
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Speaker 1: means that Jordan's better than let's say, for example, one

867
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Speaker 1: of the safeties, and that means you get Cheeto runs

868
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: out there, Cheetos out there on a passing down at safety,

869
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: but you've got your best five or six actual defensive

870
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Speaker 1: backs on the field. Oh so, like you know, I

871
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: kind I kind of would like to see them maybe

872
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Speaker 1: rotate guys around a little bit in game. Now. I

873
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Speaker 1: assume that's assuming he can do that without crippling his

874
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: ability to be a great corner. You're trying to do

875
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: like the Patriots thing where like the Patriots run their

876
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: front seven is just like you don't know who's playing

877
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Speaker 1: what because it's just like six guys, right, And well,

878
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you can get away where you

879
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: can get your best guys out there, and if Cheeto

880
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Jordan and Anthony Brown and you know, and

881
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Speaker 1: Byron Jones happened to be among your best six, how

882
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: can you get him all on the field or best five?

883
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: How can you get him all on the field on

884
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: those passing down? Okay, but if Cheeto is heading shoulders

885
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: the best corner, I'm talking like a great I don't

886
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: want to say shut down corner. I don't know if

887
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: that exists anymore. But if he's if he's the best

888
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys have to that where you're facing a

889
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: top notch receiver and if we might want to shadow him,

890
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't do it. Then you don't do what you

891
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: don't do it right, And so you got to make

892
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: sure if he's that good, because that can also help

893
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: your defense. If you've got a guy that can do

894
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, he can just follow a player all over

895
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the field. As much as I like Cheeto, I don't

896
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Speaker 1: think he's there yet. I don't think he's there yet.

897
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that that would be a part of

898
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Speaker 1: the equation. Just yet get there if you make them

899
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: change positions. Yeah, okay, Well let's take our final break

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941
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942
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951
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952
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953
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954
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957
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: Thank you there for letting us know that. Now, we

958
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: talked about the safety position and moving on from that.

959
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: Aside from that position, what would be and I'm gonna

960
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: ask each in one of you what would be the

961
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: next position that at this point kind of still concerns

962
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: you a little bit? Safety there? Sorry, Mats that I

963
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: canna still concerns you. Do you want to go ahead

964
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: and go first? Um? I mentioned it earlier. Linebacker. Linebackers

965
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: the position where I think we could get to the

966
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: end of the season and I'm like, that was one

967
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: of the best, if not the best position on the

968
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: team for the season. I also think you could get

969
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: to end of the season and be like it completely

970
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: platooned them because it's all about the health of Sean Lee. Uh.

971
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: And you know what's going to happen with Jalen Smith, Like,

972
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: is Jalen Smith ready to be Is he there yet?

973
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Is he at the point now where he can play

974
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: at least at the level of what he played at

975
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, if not better. So that's where I think

976
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: you have to have some real questions about the linebacker position.

977
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: If all those things work out and then you add

978
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: in a vander Ess who actually plays well or at

979
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: least up to expectations, I think this linebacker position could

980
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: be phenomenal. You know, last year, whenever Shanlee would go out,

981
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins, he did a really really good job by

982
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: taking leadership and stepping into that role. Do you see

983
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith kind of stepping into that role as far

984
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: as the leader goes, I think Jalen Smith has leadership qualities.

985
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: I also believe, though, in order to be a really

986
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: good leader, I think you have to be a really

987
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: good player. That's just my personal belief, just because if not,

988
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: then the moment things start going wrong and you're trying

989
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: to tell someone whatever, They're gonna look at you like, well,

990
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: you might want to get a little better at your

991
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: job as well. But I do think you have to

992
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: be a good player, and I think that if Jalen

993
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: can take that next step, then yes, I think he

994
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: has great leadership qualities and maybe he could provide that

995
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: sort of leadership. Yeah, let me ask you this. If

996
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: it comes to pass that the linebacker situation just devolves

997
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: into a disaster, I mean, can you kill him for that?

998
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Just in terms of I mean, I guess my point is,

999
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: don't you feel like they did everything they could do

1000
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: within a realistic scope to fix it? Oh? Yeah, absolutely?

1001
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: All right, Well this is part of the larger point.

1002
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: As long as long as as long as Sean Lee

1003
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: is here, you're gonna, especially at this age, you're gonna

1004
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: be susceptible to You're taking a chance every year that

1005
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: he could have an injury that keeps him out a

1006
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: significant amount of Shawn Lee's got his injury issues. That's

1007
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: just baked in, right, Jalen Smith has I mean, that's

1008
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: that's baked in at this point. It is what it is.

1009
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Maybe he's better, we can't count on it. They signed

1010
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: I think a really underrated quality depth guy and Joe Thomas.

1011
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: They spent their first round pick on a linebacker. If

1012
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: it turns out that it sucks, I can't kill them.

1013
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Like that's the definition of hindsight is twenty twenty, you

1014
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like they did everything they could.

1015
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Where I look at is defensive tackle, because I'm not

1016
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: convinced that the same can be said, because I mean,

1017
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: as it stands right now and this is the voluntary

1018
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: part of the offseason. I'm not killing David Irving for

1019
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: not being here for that, but he's not here. The

1020
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: word on the street is that he's the conditioning is

1021
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: a problem and a whole host of other things that

1022
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: are going on. On top of that, Malik Collins broke

1023
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: his foot. They didn't draft a guy. They did bring

1024
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: on jahad Ward, who they feel good about, but again

1025
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: not like just not something that you you feel super

1026
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: great about. The unifactor in Price, I'm maybe I'm just

1027
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: a lot at one technique. I thought last year before

1028
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: he got hurt, I thought he's playing really well for him.

1029
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: He did. He's not a guy where I'm just like, well,

1030
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. They got Brian Price. There's not many

1031
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: one techniques that I'm just like, oh, they're great, Like

1032
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: that's a great Like, you know, one technique is one technique,

1033
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: but I think he played it really well datone. Dayton

1034
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: Jones is a guy worth mentioning. He's basically been starting

1035
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: this whole month with MALIEK. Collins out. So and you know,

1036
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: mia culpa if I wind up being wrong, Like maybe

1037
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: these guys are better than I'm giving credit for. But

1038
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: on paper, I look at that and I'm like, you

1039
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: can't one hundred percent trust either. You're starting defensive tackles

1040
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: and I don't love what's behind him, So that concerns me.

1041
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: You could make the argument that if it doesn't go

1042
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: well at linebacker, that they could have done more by

1043
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: signing Anthony Hitchins. Okay, I'm not done. I'm not gonna

1044
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: say if they're gonna cut Dez and not do anything

1045
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: with the money, I'm not gonna kill him for that,

1046
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: because I nobody loves Anthony Hitchins more than I do.

1047
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to give him a fifty million dollars

1048
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: if they don't sign anybody else. They saved about eight

1049
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: million dollars with Dez Brian. If they don't sign anybody else,

1050
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: then why didn't you? Why did you not get Anthony

1051
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Hitchins back and then then draft, maybe draft the receiver

1052
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: instead of the linebacker or something else early you could

1053
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: It not also have been the fact that you just

1054
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: couldn't do that. You look at the amount of money

1055
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: that they're paying, and maybe they're like, hey, we feel

1056
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: like we'd rather go younger with our linebackers rather than

1057
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: pay another guy because we're already not not they're paying

1058
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee crazy money, but we're already paying him, So

1059
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: maybe we'd rather go younger and have some younger guys

1060
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: at linebacker, And that's that's better to us than paying

1061
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: another guy. Very very big, very big fan of Anthony Hitchins.

1062
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I'd rather be paying Layton vander esh whatever two million

1063
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: dollars than Anthony Hitchins fifty. That's just me though. Yeah, Nick,

1064
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: did you have any other position different from the ones

1065
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: that they just discussed hard now? Yeah, yep, this is

1066
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: like where I talked like, yeah, oh that is a

1067
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: that's one that's a little bit expecting that. I love

1068
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, you really, yeah, I do. I think he's

1069
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: great and trying to take his position. Oh I'm not.

1070
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm not like, go look at how many games gets

1071
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: get decided by a field goals back to what he

1072
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: was two years. I don't know what I don't want

1073
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: because unlike other people, you know what they might think,

1074
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: I am not there and all of his practices and

1075
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: rehabs and all that stuff. So I don't know. All

1076
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: we know is what we saw at the end of

1077
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: the year. I think he's gonna be fine. I definitely

1078
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be fine. But if he's not, it

1079
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: changes the game. It changes the game. So I hope

1080
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: he's fine. Everyone is pulling for him. I'm right there

1081
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: leading the charge. I'm just saying that is a position.

1082
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: You can't cover that up. Defensive tackle doesn't do well.

1083
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: You can kind of cover it up. Linebacker played well,

1084
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: stepped up, you make the kick or you don't. And

1085
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just hope that's it's no issue at all. Right,

1086
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: somebody at camp, but nobody to compete with them, and

1087
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: which is probably a good thing he given moment, though,

1088
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: there are kickers on the street that you could go

1089
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, they get it. Last year. There are kickers

1090
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: on the street you could go out and get if

1091
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: you got into this season end and he hasn't corrected

1092
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: the problem. But if it's to that point, than what

1093
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: happened before that Week six, they'll say that happen. But

1094
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: what happened in week five? Yeah, I get you. They

1095
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: lost a game, and they lost a game. They'reetting rid

1096
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: of it, getting somebody else in here. This team, I

1097
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: don't know if you've noticed, but this team will just

1098
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: hover around eight and eight, nine and seven mark, and

1099
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: that you'll miss a game by one. So I'm just

1100
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: saying that could affect it. And again I'm not suggesting

1101
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: one thing or another. I just hope that he's back

1102
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: to the part where you're not even thinking about thirty

1103
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: five yard field goals or extra points. As good as

1104
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: he's been, I'm gonna trust and so I see different

1105
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: that he's gonna I'm not with you there too. I'm

1106
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: just saying, not saying nothing you said is wrong. But

1107
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I've put Dan in the same category as like Tyring,

1108
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: where I'm like, you get them all again, Like your

1109
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: track record is good enough and long enough that I

1110
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: think Adam Vinatieri, you know, there was a reason why.

1111
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but there was a reason why

1112
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: you see the Patriots let him go. May have been money,

1113
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: may have been like, we can get another kicker in

1114
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: here for last and they did, and they did. They

1115
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: have a great kicker as well. But but he's still

1116
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: kicking at a very high level. So uh, And it

1117
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: was an injury and all that stuff, I'm hope and

1118
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: no issue at all. But I mean it's one of

1119
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: those things that your fingers crossed on him. Yeah, and

1120
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, we trust, I trust and Will I trusted too.

1121
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: But people will come back. It's a very important position.

1122
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: It is the good thing. I mean, at least the

1123
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: way I see it is that's a position that you

1124
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: can absolutely just practice over and over and where you

1125
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have certain factors that will affect you kicking

1126
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: the ball aside from weather condition. You know, it's a

1127
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: very steady, you know kick. So that is something that

1128
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: he can keep practicing the end of the Cowboys will

1129
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: have time to see how his kicks are, how many

1130
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: he makes over training camp and all that. As different

1131
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: as other positions that it's a little bit harder to

1132
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: judge because game day is different. Unless it gets in

1133
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: his head, unless it's a mental thing then and then

1134
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: he can kicking greater in the week. So I don't

1135
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: know all I'm saying. That's a fair point. It's it's

1136
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: a fun that's I mean, that's a good point. Just

1137
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: like you know, Byron Jones is like you're not watching

1138
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: the All twenty two, Like I'm doing my stuff over here.

1139
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: You're like, why are y'all criticizing me? Dan Bailey, It's like,

1140
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: did it go in or did it not? Very easy? Yeah,

1141
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: it's one or the other. Okay, go ahead. I was

1142
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, guys, biggest standout of OTAs. This is

1143
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: the last week of OTA, so Cowboys finished with OTAs,

1144
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: going into mini camp next week. So biggest standout overall

1145
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: in the whole OTA? Dave, Oh, well, you gotta put

1146
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: me on the spott. I'll start, Actually, i'll start. Um.

1147
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown to me is a guy he's kind of

1148
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: like forgotten a little bit just because he's he's not

1149
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: one of the flashy players, but he does have great athleticism.

1150
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: He's still you know, in the mix to be one

1151
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: of your top three or four guys will be on

1152
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: the field a lot, and I think just as a

1153
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: as a veteran player, now that he is a veteran,

1154
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to kind of fly

1155
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: under the radar a little bit. I think he's done

1156
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: some good things from what I've seen out there. Anthony

1157
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: Browns a guy that's kind of stood out to me.

1158
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about him. I think it's I'll

1159
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: go back to it. It's tape on Asten for me

1160
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: because swept my appetite for what I expected. This is

1161
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 1: your Mali calling this year. This is my pet cat,

1162
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: like I think, oh wait, or Stephen Paya. It was

1163
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: Malie calling me and both love Steven you were talking

1164
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: a lot about But I'm very excited about what they're

1165
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna get or what they can get out of Table

1166
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: and Austin. It'll be interesting to see if they use

1167
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: him the right way and if they really get like

1168
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: they said, like it's not you're not expecting hundred yard games,

1169
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: but I do expect that they are going to be

1170
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: two or three games this year that he will win

1171
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: for you, Like he will make the play that wins

1172
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: two or three ball games for you this year. And

1173
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I think that's more than enough for for what they're

1174
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: paying him to If they got that out of him.

1175
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: I'll say Blake Jarwin, Um Blake oot, I say Blake,

1176
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: and I thought he was gonna get me crap. Yeah,

1177
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: I'll afully bring him up. Let me make myself perfectly clear.

1178
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: I still think Jeff swam is going to be this

1179
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: team's starting tight end. I don't think Likelake Jarwin's gonna

1180
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl or have this like insane year.

1181
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: But we're talking about a guy with what like one

1182
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: appearance in uniform, ever, maybe how many. I mean, they

1183
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: brought him up from the practice squad. He's done basically nothing,

1184
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: but they've given him a workload, like they trust him.

1185
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: He's been with the first team, especially when they run

1186
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, which I still think they're going to do

1187
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: this year. Like they trust him to have a significant role,

1188
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: and I think he's capable of that. To steal Garrett's phrase,

1189
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's too big for him, and

1190
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: he's shown it out here, so I yeah, he's He

1191
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: looks like a guy who's ready to take on that responsibility.

1192
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: I got it. One other guy as well that I've

1193
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: seen a couple of things from lately, Dak Prescott, in

1194
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: the form of what they're asking him to be this year.

1195
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, look what they've lost on this team leadership wise.

1196
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: We saw a little bit of it yesterday. We saw

1197
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of it the week before. He's not

1198
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: really afraid to speak his mind out there. He is leading,

1199
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: he's got a command of the huddle. Yes, you want

1200
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: that from your quarterback, but it's not always easy when

1201
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: you're a young guy like he was. That's over now

1202
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: he is. He's the guy. He's the veteran guy on

1203
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: this team that they've made decisions for him to suit

1204
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: this thing around him. So when things don't go well,

1205
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: he needs to stop the drill, put the ball in

1206
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: the ground, yell at somebody. And that's what he's that's

1207
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: what he's doing so far. So kill Chazz, now, I

1208
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: do wonder does he do that with Tyran? Does he

1209
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: do it with Travis? Because you know what, there's a

1210
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: lot of people play the next play Travis Frederick pretty

1211
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: much gave him a three hopper to shortstop and they

1212
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball away. And so I I don't I

1213
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: trust him to say what needs to be said. I

1214
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: hope maybe he has a different approach with different guys.

1215
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: You have to that's what you do. That's what parents do,

1216
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: it's what coaches do. You treat everyone different. Yeah, all right,

1217
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: well guys, this is all the time we have for today.

1218
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening and tuning in. It

1219
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: was a pleasure having you back way next week I'm

1220
00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: taking ball. See you about it, all right? For Nikki

1221
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: and David Hellman. Derek, you got in, I remember you.

1222
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