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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: Than a commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy

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Speaker 1: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pasovic christ

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Speaker 1: Is King. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome a board today's

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Speaker 1: edition of Human Events Daily. We are here live Today

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Speaker 1: is February twenty third, twenty twenty six Anno Domini And

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Speaker 1: as you can see, we are here live at Liberty

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Speaker 1: University where Joshua Lyisk who here joins me in studio

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Speaker 1: or in Dave Bratt studio. As you can tell, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be speaking later this evening in beautiful Lynchburg, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Of course, even though we are here we're doing Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. This show is our show. It is not

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Speaker 1: the university show. And of course these opinions are ours.

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Speaker 1: What have we seen? Folks? Unhumans activity continues another day,

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Speaker 1: another example of an attempted assassination of President Trump. This

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Speaker 1: individual twenty one years old, Austin Tucker Martin, shot dead

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Speaker 1: on the scene while attempting to and actually having breached

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Speaker 1: the perimeter of mar Lago with a gas can and

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Speaker 1: a shotgun in some sort of attempt it seems to

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Speaker 1: kill the president and burn down his home. Joshua Leisac,

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Speaker 1: We've got you for a couple of minutes today. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get right into it. Why do we keep

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Speaker 1: seeing these types of activity.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that all of these scenarios have

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Speaker 3: in common with the attempted assassination first of Candidate Trump

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Speaker 3: and now President Trump, seems to be the combination of

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Speaker 3: online radicalization and isolation. We seem to see something like

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Speaker 3: that with Thomas Matthew Crooks. This was an individual, of course,

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Speaker 3: that's the butler of Sylvania shooter. And we saw that

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Speaker 3: something similar with Ryan Wesley Ruth the West Palm Beach

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Speaker 3: attempted assassin there during the campaign, and also with this

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Speaker 3: particular character. What all of them seemed to have in

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Speaker 3: common is an anti Trump fervor that starts with and

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Speaker 3: becomes fixated on a particular story or storyline. With Ryan

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Speaker 3: Wesley Ruth, there there seemed to be a lot of

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Speaker 3: free Uklinian Slava Ukrainey type of propaganda that he was consuming.

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Speaker 3: Of course, the potential for ties with the Azov Battalion

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Speaker 3: and then with the Epstein List allegations baseless as they

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Speaker 3: are had been making their rounds and all manner of

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Speaker 3: conspiracy theory forums across the Internet, and it looks like

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Speaker 3: this twenty one year old fellow from North Carolina got

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Speaker 3: caught up in that and became radically anti Trump, similar

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Speaker 3: to Ryan Wesley Ruth, going down that path past the

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Speaker 3: point of no return, being isolated from one another, family, friends,

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Speaker 3: and so on and so forth, and believing that there's

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Speaker 1: You weigh out of this. And we see this, and

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Speaker 1: we see this, by the way, in a text message,

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Speaker 1: the same way you saw a text messages with in

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Speaker 1: the case of islence, with Kyler Robinson and so many

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Speaker 1: others where you see this phrase. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've read up on the Epstein files, but evil is

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Speaker 1: real and unmistakable. The best people like you and I

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Speaker 1: and what the government is doing about it, raise awareness.

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Speaker 1: And so, Joshua, you and I were just talking, literally,

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Speaker 1: just talking about what drives individuals to acts of assassination,

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Speaker 1: acts of political assassination, and it really comes into this

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Speaker 1: this psychological what you say is this belief in a

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Speaker 1: take some kind of response, but that it's always been

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Speaker 3: What we noticed with recent domestic terrorism in the United

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Speaker 3: The sort of demoralizing language that we often see will

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Speaker 3: responding to speech with violence. Ironically, with speech being violence

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Speaker 1: So in this case, he believes he's defending the people

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Speaker 1: defending against it. And to be clear, what Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: did was heinous, was disgusting, was despicable. But again, if

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Speaker 1: you're actually looking at these files, nowhere in them will

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Speaker 1: these What you certainly do, by the way, find you know,

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Speaker 1: of there. And then what do you do, Just like NPR,

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Speaker 1: as Joshua always says, you repeat over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: So that's the association that they built, Joshua. I know

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Speaker 1: Tales of Regime Change series and we're turning it into

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Speaker 1: a lecture here down at the Great Liberty University, Lynchburg, Verginia. Joshua,

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Speaker 1: Jack Grants on the new book, by the Way, go

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Speaker 1: get it unelected, Joshua Data Republican. Talk more about that later.

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Speaker 5: That thing will stand in our way, and our Golden

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Speaker 1: This is human events, which Aisovic. Now it's time for

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Second American Revolution. Walck a prost Pups

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Speaker 6: The Golden gul for the United States. For the first

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Speaker 7: Nineteen Day back Goal, President Trump announced he is increasing

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Speaker 6: A man in his early twenties carrying what appeared to

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Speaker 1: Before he was shot and killed by authorities.

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Speaker 8: They confronted a white mail that was carried a gas

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Speaker 8: which time he put down the gas can raised the

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Speaker 4: Iran is on a full court press trying to talk

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Speaker 4: Iran's foreign ministers spoke with Faced Nations, Margaret Brennett. But

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Speaker 4: Iran also has one of the largest arsenals of ballistic

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Speaker 7: Explosions erupting across Porto Wayatta tonight, black smoke seen rising

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Speaker 1: It has already happened. We cannot allow this normalization of

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Speaker 1: this weekend and suddenly, boom, boom boom, you hear shots

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Speaker 1: just for associating yourself with President Trump. Well, guess what,

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Speaker 1: that's reality, that's real life. Now you don't believe me,

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Speaker 1: go ask Charlie Kirk about it. Oh right, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Right back, Jack Pasobaic, Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 5: You know that you talk about influencers. These are influences,

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, Jeck Pacobic are back live here, Lynchburg, Virginia.

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Speaker 6: But they were actually our government was giving these guns

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Speaker 6: And these are the types of things that frustrate Americans

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Speaker 6: they should hold somebody accountable. That's what Americans want to

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Speaker 1: No and unfortunately we can see this looks it's ridiculous

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Speaker 1: where you go back to the nineteen sixties. I always

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Speaker 6: And we created this to a certain extent. We haven't

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Speaker 6: And yet we have to hope we haven't held them

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Speaker 6: So I hope that we continue to hit our boot

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Speaker 1: for joining us once again here and thank you right

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Speaker 1: back talking to tariffs. Human Events returns.

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Speaker 1: tariffs back in the news. Huge Supreme Court ruling on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and we saw the president's response to that, let's play it.

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Speaker 10: Now, therefore, affect of immediately all national security tariffs under

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Speaker 10: Section two thirty two and existing Section three oh one tariffs.

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Speaker 10: They're existing, they're there, remain in place, fully in place,

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Speaker 10: and in full force and effect. Today I will sign

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Speaker 10: in order to impose a ten percent global tariff under

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Speaker 10: Section one twenty two. Over and above are normal tariffs

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Speaker 10: already being charged. And we're also initiating several Section three

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Speaker 10: oh one and other investigations to protect our country from

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Speaker 10: unfair trading practices of other countries and companies.

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Speaker 1: Well, so that was the president's response, throwing down, he's

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Speaker 1: not backing off of tariffs. Want to get on here,

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Speaker 1: the chief economist of American Compass or in cast to

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Speaker 1: kind of walk us through some of what's happened here.

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Speaker 9: Orn, How are you, I'm very well, great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you as well. So walk us through

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Speaker 1: the theory of the case. Why did the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: rule the way they did on these specific tariffs? And

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Speaker 1: people need to understand this isn't all tariffs, but one

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Speaker 1: specific subset of the tariff basket.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 11: There there are a lot of very well established tariff

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Speaker 11: authorities who heard the President just mentioning some of them.

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Speaker 11: Section three zero one, Section two thirty two. These are

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Speaker 11: all processes you can go through. You show that some

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Speaker 11: other country is behaving unfairly, some particular product that's important

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Speaker 11: to the US is under threat, and then you could

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Speaker 11: impose tariffs. And the President has done that going all

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Speaker 11: the way back to his first term as well. What

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Speaker 11: the administration did this time around, though, was use a

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Speaker 11: different statute called AEPA, which is it's an emergency statute

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Speaker 11: and is basically designed to give the president very quick authority,

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Speaker 11: a lot of flexibility to as the statute says, regulate imports.

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Speaker 11: And so the question for the short case was well,

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Speaker 11: does regulate include.

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Speaker 9: Tariffs or not?

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Speaker 11: And the White House's position was yes, it does, and

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Speaker 11: that allowed them to move very quickly with a lot

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Speaker 11: of the actions you saw over the last year. Ultimately,

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Speaker 11: the decision by the Supreme Court was no.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 11: Regulate means you can regulate, you can make rules about

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Speaker 11: what imports can come in under what conditions, but it

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Speaker 11: does not include the ability to actually impose a tariff,

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Speaker 11: which is sort of a tax and obviously the constitution

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Speaker 11: is very strict about who can tax when, and so

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Speaker 11: those very kind of short term emergency tariffs that the

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Speaker 11: President had been using over the last year negotiations now

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Speaker 11: go away. But all of those longer run permanent tariffs

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Speaker 11: are still in effect, and the administration is in the

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Speaker 11: process of using those same authorities to put more tariffs

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Speaker 11: in place, which will leave us pretty much where we

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Speaker 11: were all along.

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Speaker 1: And so this is something that I know you've written

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Speaker 1: about this, I know others have written about this that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people point in out from the very start,

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Speaker 1: from the very jump, that the administration really can just

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Speaker 1: move the tariffs over. So even though the authority is different,

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Speaker 1: the actual burden, the actual economic effect won't really be

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Speaker 1: changed that much.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 11: What's going to change is really the White House's ability

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Speaker 11: to sort of very quickly threaten to snap tariffs on,

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Speaker 11: take tariffs off, move them up, move them down, which

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Speaker 11: obviously the President was using very aggressively in this first year,

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Speaker 11: especially as he was trying to cajole everybody to the table. Frankly,

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Speaker 11: I think we're better off in the long run moving

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Speaker 11: to these stabler, more permanent authorities. I think if we

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Speaker 11: actually want to get to a new trading system, if

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Speaker 11: we want to have certainty, if we want to have

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Speaker 11: people investing in the US, it will actually be a

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Speaker 11: very good thing that people know. Okay, these are not

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Speaker 11: emergency tariffs anymore. These are actually established after investigations based

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Speaker 11: on very clear authority, and they're likely to be here

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Speaker 11: for the long run.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this really does, at the same time move

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Speaker 1: the US. So you know, you look at where we

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Speaker 1: were coming from the Biden administration to Trump coming in

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Speaker 1: and even without and I'm sure he's gonna look for

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Speaker 1: other ways to get you know, to get get back

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Speaker 1: another bite to the tariff apple, but even moving that

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Speaker 1: into these permanent tariffs, as you say, this is a

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Speaker 1: totally totally total sea change or regime change. I guess

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Speaker 1: I should say from the previous the previous administration and

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Speaker 1: previous efforts because although although you didn't see these worldwide

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Speaker 1: tariffs under Biden, I will admit, actually with one exception,

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Speaker 1: because Biden even kept many of the China tariffs from

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Speaker 1: Trump's first term in place, and that's kind of a

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Speaker 1: little a little mentioned fact because they were in fact

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Speaker 1: working and because China was in fact guilty of the

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Speaker 1: things that the American investigators had found.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's exactly right.

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Speaker 11: And you know, the tariffs on China are the ones

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Speaker 11: that are the most clear cut. Obviously we have the

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Speaker 11: authority to do them. Is trying to destroy our industrial capacity.

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Speaker 11: China is our national security adversary. China does cheat every

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Speaker 11: way possible under every rule of the trading system, and

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Speaker 11: so you know, we can certainly continue to carry that on.

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Speaker 11: But I think, as you said, it's really important to

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Speaker 11: say we've seen a much broader, permanent shift now in

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Speaker 11: how we're going to think about the global economy. This

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Speaker 11: idea that it's just free trade no matter what, it's

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Speaker 11: free trade, no matter how other countries treat us, it's

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Speaker 11: free trade, no matter what the results are, is out

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Speaker 11: the window, and I don't think it's coming back. We're

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Speaker 11: moving to a model that says we would love to

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Speaker 11: have strong trading relationships, but they have to be balanced,

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Speaker 11: they have to be good for the United States. And

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Speaker 11: I think what's so telling is, you know, all of

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Speaker 11: these authorities for tariffs do exist, right. It's really funny

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Speaker 11: you go back. It's from this law from the nineteen thirties,

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Speaker 11: it's a law passed in the nineteen sixties, it's a

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Speaker 11: law passed in the nineteen seventies, because in all of

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Speaker 11: those periods, everybody understood free trade wasn't always going to work,

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Speaker 11: and you needed to have these kinds of authorities to

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Speaker 11: confront countries that were not playing by the rules or

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Speaker 11: relationships that.

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Speaker 9: Were not working for us.

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Speaker 11: So only very recently we got to this idea that

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Speaker 11: you just you can't use tariffs under any circumstances. And

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Speaker 11: so it's it's really important to be moving back to

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Speaker 11: a world that said, yes, we would like to have

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Speaker 11: healthy trade, but we absolutely can and we will use

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Speaker 11: tariffs if it helps us to get there.

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Speaker 1: And I think, by the way, the team is just

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Speaker 1: putting up as you and I have been speaking, the

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Speaker 1: President has tweeted or truth.

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Speaker 9: A tweets that's always a risk of.

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Speaker 1: About this where where he's funny enough, he's actually just

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Speaker 1: reinforcing exactly what you're saying. As President, I do not

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Speaker 1: have to go back to Congress to get approval of

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Speaker 1: tariffs because it has already been gotten in many forms

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Speaker 1: a long time ago, as you just delineated, and they

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Speaker 1: were already they were also just reaffirmed by the Ready,

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Speaker 1: as he says, the ridiculous and poorly crafted Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: lowercase Supreme Court decision, President DJT, So he's really just

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Speaker 1: outlining exactly what you said. These are long standing laws

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Speaker 1: and authorities that Congress has delegated to the President when

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Speaker 1: it comes to these tariff powers.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 11: I do think there are two things ideally that Congress

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Speaker 11: would still do. You know. One is this idea of

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Speaker 11: what's called the global tariff. So he has reinstated the

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Speaker 11: global tariff under what's called Section one twenty two, which

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Speaker 11: is only for a limited time, so it's also sort

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Speaker 11: of an emergency provision. I think we should have a permanent,

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Speaker 11: long term global tariff. That is something you would want

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Speaker 11: Congress to put in place. It's also something I think

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Speaker 11: they could put in place. You know, there's actually legislation

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Speaker 11: to do that. It's actually there's a conservative Democrat as

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Speaker 11: the sponsor of it in the House of Representatives, and

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Speaker 11: so it'd be great to see Congress move on that.

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Speaker 11: And then the other big one is permanent normal trade

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Speaker 11: relations with China. That's the big thing we did back

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Speaker 11: And it's I think really important that Congress take the

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Speaker 11: step of revoking that saying we do not have normal

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Speaker 11: trade relations with China. And again there there is there

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Speaker 11: is bipartisan legislation on that. It's a bipartisan recommendation of

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Speaker 11: the China Select Committee, and it was in the President's

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty four platform. So that that would be another

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Speaker 11: great place to see actually a real push in Congress.

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Speaker 11: Let's actually put our money where our mouth is and

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Speaker 11: do the thing we've all said we know we should do.

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Speaker 1: No I'd personally love to do it. It's something that

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Speaker 1: you know, even coming up as a China hand, you know,

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Speaker 1: you go back and you look and you say, how

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Speaker 1: did this ever make any sense? Most favorite nation, permanent

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Speaker 1: normal status or in casts, working people go to follow

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Speaker 1: you get your work.

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Speaker 11: We are at Commonplace dot org is our magazine just

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Speaker 11: published a great analysis of this on Friday, So subscribe

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Speaker 11: there and I am on exit or an underscore casts.

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Speaker 1: All right, take care man, thanks to joining us.

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Speaker 9: Great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you said right back at Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 6: Jack is a great guy. He's written at Fantastic Look

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Speaker 6: and everybody's.

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Speaker 2: Talking about it.

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Speaker 6: Go get it that he's been my friend right from

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Speaker 6: the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Of this whole ure and blub event, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to turn it around.

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Speaker 6: This make our country way to get him, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, folks, were back, Jack Posobic live here Lynchburg, Virginia

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Speaker 1: on Real America's voice for Human Events Daily, and we're

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Speaker 1: breaking news that actually just dropped out of Axios right

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Speaker 1: before we came to came live today that I just

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Speaker 1: kind of crossed my desk where they're now reporting that

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Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs Chairman Dan Kine has been advising President Trump

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Speaker 1: in top officials that a military campaign against Iran could

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Speaker 1: carry significant risks, in particular the possibility of becoming entangled

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Speaker 1: in a prolonged conflict. Why does this matter If there's

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Speaker 1: an ongoing debate at the top levels of the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration on how to handle the Iran standoff and what

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Speaker 1: the consequences of what each option would be. At the moment,

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Speaker 1: several of the voices in Trump's circle are urging caution.

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Speaker 1: There's some sources think Trump himself is leaning towards a strike.

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Speaker 1: After all, there's a question of what success would look

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Speaker 1: like when it comes to military action and how risky

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Speaker 1: would be to try to achieve it. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: measing a nuclear deal could potentially mean walking back some

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Speaker 1: of the President's previous red lines. And of course the

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Speaker 1: envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff have been a huge

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Speaker 1: pick point there. Kine's position, they're saying could be particular. Look,

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Speaker 1: we know President Trump, he loves General Kin. General Kaine

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Speaker 1: is absolutely someone that he trusts, going all the way

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Speaker 1: back to his first term. That's why he pointed him

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Speaker 1: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and made sure that he

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Speaker 1: got there. Is to say, Look, this was a situation

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Speaker 1: saying that, according to reports, Kin is a reluctant war

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Speaker 1: on Iran, even though he was all in on the

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Speaker 1: Venezuela operation, and he's been more cautious in his discussions

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Speaker 1: on Iran. Of course, obviously would support and execute any

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Speaker 1: decision that the President makes, but also more steal the

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Speaker 1: eyed and clear eyed and realistic. And look when you

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Speaker 1: look at when you look at all of this, go back.

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Speaker 1: So Joshua and I, Joshua, Isaac and I are going

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Speaker 1: to be giving a talk tonight on really the thesis

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Speaker 1: of our discussion going back to Tales of regime regime change,

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Speaker 1: which was the special that we did here on Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily during the Christmas break, And why do we

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Speaker 1: put that special together? Well, we wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: how this line of thinking seems to go throughout the

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Speaker 1: American media, particularly conservative media, particularly the conservative right, where

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Speaker 1: we have these ideas that oh, well, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna we're just gonna knock off the bad guys,

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Speaker 1: and the people are going to rise up and everything

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Speaker 1: is going to be great. And so what Joshua and

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Speaker 1: I did is we went and looked at case studies

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Speaker 1: and we went case by case by case. We looked

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Speaker 1: at Iraq, we looked at Afghanistan, we looked at Syria,

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Speaker 1: and we said, what went wrong in all of those situations.

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Speaker 1: Of course Iraq knocked them off. That leads to a

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Speaker 1: massive sectarian civil war Afghanistan. Of course, that ended with

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Speaker 1: the Taliban retaking Kabul and retaking power in the country. Syria,

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Speaker 1: the Syrian Civil War, which the United States played a

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Speaker 1: role in fomenting, led to the rise of ISIS, which

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Speaker 1: also spread to their extremists in Iraq. Across that border

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Speaker 1: all the way down to the Euphrates, And then we

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Speaker 1: even talked about Ukraine and how it was US operations

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Speaker 1: and US involvement, particularly from the intelligence side, that led

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Speaker 1: to the ouster of the Ukrainian president Victor Yanikovich all

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Speaker 1: the way back in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, the Maidan Revolution,

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Speaker 1: as it's called a color which was held there, which

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Speaker 1: led to the current crisis and the war in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: And you can certainly point back and say, would the

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Speaker 1: war in Ukraine have ever happened if the United States

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Speaker 1: and members of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nolan,

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Speaker 1: and others started their regime change operation Color Revolution in

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Speaker 1: Ukraine all the way back then? Right, we do have

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Speaker 1: to look at these things in totality that when you

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Speaker 1: knock off a world leader, a foreign leader, and you

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Speaker 1: hear this in the intel community all the time, and

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Speaker 1: again you hear it in conservative media all the time, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're just we're going to knock these guys off, or

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Speaker 1: we're just goin to take out some of the regime's infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: and everything is going to work. Really, are you sure

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Speaker 1: about that? Can you point to an example of a

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Speaker 1: time where it has worked properly. So I just laid

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Speaker 1: out a few, and in fact, if we were going

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Speaker 1: to do we'd actually, when we were putting together the episodes,

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Speaker 1: we said, if we were going to do two more episodes,

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Speaker 1: we'd either talk the other two on the list. The

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Speaker 1: other countries we were looking at were going to be

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Speaker 1: either Iran itself or Libya. And in fact we still

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Speaker 1: may go in and do those because in Iran, the

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Speaker 1: United States has been involved in multiple regime changes in Iran.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the Shah, when you look at Mozaedegg,

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Speaker 1: when you look at what was done there, the British

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Speaker 1: I six as well has been involved in many times.

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Speaker 1: And it was, in fact, it was, in fact, all right,

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Speaker 1: the imposition of the Shah, backed by the CIA and

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Speaker 1: MI six, that led to so many Iranians being upset

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Speaker 1: at the West, being upset at the United States, that

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Speaker 1: led to them joining the Islamic Revolution of nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: That's why they were chanting death to America. That's why

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Speaker 1: the same way they referred to Israel as the little

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Speaker 1: Satan and the little evil. So what you go back

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Speaker 1: and look at all this stuff, And what I mean

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Speaker 1: to say is this, it's very simple when it comes

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Speaker 1: to regime change operations and regime change wars. Nobody can

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Speaker 1: prove what is going to come next, and ultimately the

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Speaker 1: outcome that you do get is probably not the desired effect.

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Speaker 1: It is not the desired effect at all. And so

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Speaker 1: if you have anybody sitting there and promising you that,

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Speaker 1: oh well, this group is going to take power and

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Speaker 1: the people are just going to rise up and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be great, go look at Libya, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Go look at Libya where Gaddafi himself gets brutalized in

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Speaker 1: the streets and sits there and gets attacked and gets

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Speaker 1: raked over the coals, literally raked over coals and flayed

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Speaker 1: out there in public. And who takes over. You've got

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Speaker 1: al Qaeda, You've got terrorists. Benghazi takes place a year later,

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Speaker 1: it was complete Mayhem on the Mediterranean. So that's what

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Speaker 1: we got. And now so it doesn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 1: The General Cane is out there, Chairman Kane of the

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Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs of Staff telling you President, Hey, mister president,

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Speaker 1: just so you know that if we really start to

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Speaker 1: underpin the regime in Iran, and if we get them

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Speaker 1: into a regime collapse or regime change scenario, we have

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Speaker 1: no idea what's going to come out, and it could

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Speaker 1: lead potentially to by the way, even if the regime

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Speaker 1: doesn't collapse, by the way, it could lead to reprisals

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Speaker 1: against the US and the US getting sucked into a

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Speaker 1: larger regional or perhaps worse war. All right, and let's

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Speaker 1: not forget that Iran's two biggest allies or Russia in China.

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Speaker 1: So a Maduro style operation or Midnight Hammer style operation.

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Speaker 1: We can't remember the General Kane is the one who

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Speaker 1: ran Operation Midnight Hammer. He is an air force general

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Speaker 1: that was predominantly air assets. Now we've also seen those

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Speaker 1: air assets being forward deployed. Now, we talked to you

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Speaker 1: last week about the importance the map break on Diego Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Why Diego Garcia is so important for a long range

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Speaker 1: or sustained bombing runs when it comes to when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Iran as a staging location, it's positioned southern,

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Speaker 1: directly south of the Persian Gulf where it can range

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Speaker 1: into Iran and then come back for refueling. And so

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Speaker 1: we need to look at this again, clear eyes. What

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Speaker 1: do we want? What comes next? What is interest in

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Speaker 1: the interests of the American people. And I believe that

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Speaker 1: President Trump knows this, and I believe that President Trump remembers,

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Speaker 1: of course, the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan. Remember it

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Speaker 1: was Donald Trump himself in twenty fifteen who stood on

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Speaker 1: stage next to Jeb Bush and demanded that his family

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Speaker 1: apologize for the lies of Iraq, that his family apologize

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Speaker 1: and talk about. And he talked about this in Georgia

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Speaker 1: when we were just down there on Thursday, when I

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Speaker 1: had the honor of spending the day with the President,

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Speaker 1: where he talked about the troops, the boots on the ground,

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Speaker 1: coming home, and the way that people were maimed, the

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Speaker 1: way that people American citizens, our boys were maimed, were hurt,

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Speaker 1: were injured, and came back forever scarred. And today he's

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Speaker 1: of course meeting with the Angel Mom. So he understands

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Speaker 1: that the victims aren't just the people killed, but the

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Speaker 1: families they leave behind, That everyone is victimized in these scenarios.

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Speaker 1: And so if you want to pop the Iranians, focus

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Speaker 1: on the nuclear program, that's one thing, But these long

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Speaker 1: term regime change wars are something that the President ran

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Speaker 1: against in twenty twenty four and something that I personally

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Speaker 1: am more than willing to call out even here in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. And we just heard, by the way

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Speaker 1: I broke the news earlier, that Tucker Carlson is there

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Speaker 1: at the White House. Today is the meeting with the President.

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Speaker 1: I suppose we'll see ladies and gentlemen. As always, you

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Speaker 1: have my permission to lay a shore