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Speaker 1: I've never told your protection of I heart radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's been quite a stressful time for a lot

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Speaker 1: of us, especially here in Atlanta. And I will say

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to be processed here. And Annie and

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Speaker 1: I have been kind of going back and forth about

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Speaker 1: the country, but specifically to Atlanta. And I want to

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Speaker 1: dedicate the Monday Mini trying to be more vulnerable of myself.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that I'm not I think I'm pretty open, yeah,

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Speaker 1: in general about my opinions of things, but being open

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Speaker 1: even in the thought process of what's been happening in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and because of my Asian descent and identity, and I've

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Speaker 1: been struggling. I know, I think many of your listeners

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Speaker 1: lot in trying to find my identity. And it's a

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Speaker 1: very touchy and complicated subject, especially growing up in a

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Speaker 1: very white, very conservative and religious community. Whether it's my family,

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Speaker 1: whether it's my upbringing, whether it's my like school experiences

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Speaker 1: even and whether this is today, I still can't say

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Speaker 1: to work through. But we are going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the shooting here in Atlanta that occurred on March six,

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Speaker 1: in which a young white man drove directly to three

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Speaker 1: seven women, and of those seven women, six Asian women.

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Speaker 1: And just to put this caveat here, he bought a

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Speaker 1: murder eight people. And there's been a lot of articles

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Speaker 1: and conversations, and I think such needed conversation. And in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: I plave the percentage of Asian citizens make up about

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Speaker 1: seven to ten percent, surprisingly and they are in very

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Speaker 1: isolated locations. So you'll see a community towards Northern Georgia area,

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Speaker 1: Highway one of the best places to go get any

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Speaker 1: it is a growing community and it's still a small

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Speaker 1: community in comparison to and when we talked about the

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Speaker 1: voting and people of color who have been real big

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Speaker 1: white woman who was like, oh, no, we have to

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Speaker 1: change the laws. If not, we may never win as Republicans.

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Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, maybe you should about. But there was

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Speaker 1: a lot that happened on March six, Pat as you

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