1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the NFL Player podcast. Logan Ryan here 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: again and got a great guest today. A lot of energy. 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Hates playing cold Weather, refuses to play for the team 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: of cold Weather. Luckily he doesn't. Has had a great 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. Talks about where he came up 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: with his first sack dance UH. Talks about all the 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: energy that he brings and all the great things he 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: does off the field as well. A fellow and another 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Walter Pon Man of the Year candidate, Cameron cam Jordan's 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: and I think he is. I think he's my vote 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: for the Walter Peon Man of the Year this year. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: And I'm a nominee, but I think I think he's 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: a front runner. And I might be. I'm going for 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the underdog car I'm trying to get the underdog fan bote. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: So what's going on, my man, man? Look, appreciate you 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: having me on. UM. I don't know if I'm a 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: fan favorite. I don't know if I'm a front runner 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: for anything other than uh tackles and sacks. Look, when 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: it comes to the Walter pain Man of the Year Award, 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: there's so many phenomenal guys for you. Cam Hayward, Tyre Matthews, 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Justice Simmons, Dak Prescott Been. It's beyond the names, it's 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: the work that we're doing. I think the w PMO 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Y is phenomenal for highlighting guys who are in the communities, 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: highlighting guys who are always given it valiant efforts of 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: trying to better not only themselves with people around them. 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: And honestly, you know, sure there has to be a winner, 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: but even just being nominated puts a light on what 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: you're doing, and it brings it brings attention to exactly 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: what um you've been doing unannounced or or uninvited to 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: be doing in your in your surrounding communities. So I mean, 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, kudos to you, Congrats to to you for 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: being even up for the nomination. I think it's a 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: phenomenal situation to be nominated. It would be great to win, sure, 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: because that's more money that I be able to use 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: to better what three or four different initiatives that I have. 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I have a little heartfelt situation for. But in terms 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: of it is gonna stop me from giving or is 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: it going to deter me if I don't win. That's 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: not going to deter from any of the work that 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: we've done. We're gon we take it, and it just 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: means one or two extra cameras around, but we still 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: got work to do. And whether the money comes from 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL, or from our own pockets, or 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: from anybody who's donated, and it's all about the positive 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: vibes and the positive efforts that we've been given. To 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: this point. I can relate because all the people who 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: have been nominated to this guys have been doing work. 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: They get the attention or sometimes you do or don't, 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not what you're seeking. It's not 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: what you're seeking, you know. It's almost like it feels 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: weird trying to promote yourself for your own charity work. 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, you let the work speak for yourself. And like, 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, my cause is animal welfare. Is something I 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: do is start with my wife. And I know you 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: do stuff with police and we'll talk about as well, 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: but police perform um and police training um that I'm 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: working with. That's something I did with my father, who's 58 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: twenty five year police officer. So I wasn't seeking any 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: type of I hope I went to wall I might 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: win it with this one it's just kind of what 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: I was doing, stuff close to my heart. And then 62 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: you know you kind of get that that nominee and 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: you realize that is like harder to get than the 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. It's harder to get and other things because 65 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: so many people and how you judge one man's working 66 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: from another. And I know you've been here. What is 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: this your fourth nominee? No, No, it's it's it's it's 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: a second second nomination. Yeah, man, I mean that's I mean, 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: that's just it. You know, been in the community eleven years, 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: has been nominated officially twice now, m And sure you 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: could be like man, I could get nominated every year. 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: But there's so many teammates. There's so many people in 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: this world trying to create positive waves. I mean, you 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: know my team alone, You've got you know, Malcolm Jenkins, 75 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: who's done phenomenal work on and off the field. DA 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Mario Davis has done tremendous work. I've got guys like 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Toron Armstaid who just opened up a community center. Uh. 78 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I think on each of everybody's individual teams, there's three 79 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: or four guys that you know put in overtime work. 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: And it's really that that that kind of positivity that 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: makes you want to be even more involved in community. 82 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: But I'm looking over like, damn, I'm not doing enough. 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Like i feel like I'm just doing school visits or 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm just doing this initiative, or I'm just teaming up 85 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: with Chrescent City Corps or you know, trying to affect 86 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the community with the Hurricane Ida aftermath. But it's like 87 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you look over and so your teammates you look over 88 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, he's doing You know, my teammate 89 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Double D has his his Dreamers Foundation where you know, 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: he's got these seven on seven kids, So he's out 91 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: there to religion the next generation. You know, he's out 92 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: there pushing, he's pushing for greatness. And I'm like, man, 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of mentees that I'm out here 94 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: trying to help. But I feel like I can I 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: can do more. Like he's he's teaching football and real 96 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: life situations. Look like he's coached prime over there. You 97 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'm just helping up with like, hey, man, 98 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: how's your grades? I was like, what you want? Man? 99 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Like football is not just the only answer. You could 100 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: be more than that. It's like you know, UM, your 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: team up with Crest City Core and it's it's just 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: additional training. UM. I mean, it's bringing actual community leaders in. 103 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: It's bringing actual people in UM. And it's it's giving 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: that heartfelt messages, opening up the minds of the policing 105 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: entity that's supposed to be properly policing the community surrounding it. 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: But it's it's just the efforts given, man. I mean, 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know what it is like if you're 108 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: not giving your whole heart you then you're just giving money. 109 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: I mean you're just you can give money all you want, 110 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: But it's the time, is the effort, it's the it's 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: the heart being in it that actually pushes for a 112 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: positive change that makes the lasting impact. And that's the 113 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. Is like, you know, when they 114 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: asked me to do do this podcast, I wanted to highlight 115 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: players around the league and I felt we're really really 116 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: doing this. I wanted to pull the curtain back for 117 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: the fans and then the viewers and the listeners to 118 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: see that we're human beings behind here and the guys 119 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: that are really trying to compete, Like your locked room 120 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: is feel with great dudes. Tomorrow David has known great dude. 121 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins is great. Do wherever franchise they go to, 122 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: you know they're touching that franchise and doing great things. 123 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: And I believe that certain individuals attack greatness and everything 124 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: they do. You can't just turn it on right you 125 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: care to say, I'm gonna I'm gonna make these sacks 126 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: on the field and then off the field, I'm just 127 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna have somebody to pick the foundation and just throw 128 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: the money there. Now you're really doing You're really doing work. 129 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: And I think what me and you have in common 130 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: is the whole the police for reform work. So what 131 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: may I mean? Obviously I know what made you kind 132 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: of start that? But when you saw the George Floyd incident? 133 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: And when did it? I always say I started in 134 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: mind because I didn't just want to tweet. I felt 135 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: like by tweeting, I just felt like that wasn't the 136 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: whole battle, that wasn't the whole I wasn't gonna finish 137 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: the job by that. I wasn't gonna make the real 138 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: impact by just driving the tweet waves. So what what 139 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: made you spark that change and say I want to 140 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: partner this five one C three man. You could say 141 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: maud Harbory, you could say George Floyd, UM. But really 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: it becomes very like reflective upon all the times you've 143 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: been pulled over, right, Like I went to school, whatever 144 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: it was, Arizona, California, New Orleans, UM, wherever I've lived, 145 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Like I've been pulled over, and nine times out of ten, 146 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm probably stepping out the vehicle. You feel me like 147 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I I hope it's because I'm six five pounds all 148 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: season probably two nineties, you know, like I'm a rather 149 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: large individual. I'm sure they, you know, to clear some space, 150 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: he may step out the car. But that's always been 151 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: been the case. But one of these times it could 152 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: go wrong, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, one 153 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: of these times it could be these routine stop and 154 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: you see something like that. It's like, man, that could 155 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: be me. And it hits even harder when you have 156 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: a son and you're like, damn, that could my son 157 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: could be involved in that. There's just it hits home 158 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: when you see somebody who looks like you, somebody who 159 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: could be a part of your family, somebody who could 160 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: who sort of feels like a representative of what you 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: could be in that position, tweeting about it, maybe maybe 162 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: put a flashlight on it, throwing it on I g 163 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: story may may get a couple, a couple more views, 164 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: and then you know, cut more eyes on the scene. 165 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: But where's the act of change? If all I'm doing 166 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: is is tweeting about it? I feel like all I'm 167 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: doing is venting um. And you know, it goes to 168 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: that saying like put your money where your mouth is? 169 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Like what else can I do? Like? Bro, I could 170 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: I could be like, hey, check this out, but that's 171 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: not helping anybody. You know, that's not actually creating for 172 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: a change. So it just became a vetting process, Like, bro, 173 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: how do I really get some sort of forward process? 174 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I could throw money at it and 175 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: say that it's gonna be reformed, But I'm like, how 176 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: do I actually affect change? How do I go ahead 177 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I see a problem. How do I 178 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: go about fixing it? So so like we get to 179 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: President City Corps and they're like, hey, we've already ran, 180 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: We've already had our first cohort. Fifteen and sixteen officers 181 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: have already been through this. This is how it's affected them, 182 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: and bro, you see the change of the first dialogue 183 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: that they had like their first meeting to you know, 184 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: the like eighth course in the twelfth course in that 185 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: that that final graduation, I guess you would say. And 186 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: the way that they're addressing how they have different police stops. 187 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: That's what affected me. Now, I mean that makes sense 188 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: because honest this community, You lived in the community, your 189 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: kids want to grow, and you want to make the 190 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: community a better place. And when you when you got 191 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: there and and you really you're just kind of figuring 192 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: out where you see fit and how that change needs 193 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: to happen. And really, I'm sitting on the back porch 194 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: of my house in Florida, UM, and I'm with my 195 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: dad and my dad as a police officer twenty five 196 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: years at FBI agent swat Team, UH martial artists and 197 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: four different four different black belts. It's extreme, extremely lethal 198 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: human being walking through looking like a regular dude that 199 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to mess with. And then you square 200 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: up and he like kicks in the chain. You're like, 201 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: hold on there, saying someone I want to fight with, 202 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: but you don't know that. And he's sitting back here 203 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: and he's a retired cop in CAMDA, New Jersey, homicide detective, 204 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: very very violent city where I was born. And you 205 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: see him in a lot of cops and good cops 206 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: and minority cops or whatever, getting a real bad rap, right. 207 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of the one bad apples. And I'm kind 208 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: of sitting there as an athlete tweeting about police reform 209 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: and one of the changes that we need. At the 210 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: same time, I'm the son of a police officer, and 211 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I said, let me just let me just talk to him, 212 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: let me see what I'm missing. And he says, Son, 213 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is the police have a tough job. Obviously, 214 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: they're undertrained, and they're going to situations under trained, and 215 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: they're not confident. And then when you're not coming, you 216 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: act scared. You react scared, You go to your basic, 217 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: primal instincts wherever they may be. So, just like a 218 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: football player, just like an athlete, more training, the more 219 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: training you have, the more common collective you may be. 220 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Of course, we've got to change idealistic racial systemic racism 221 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: and and and stuff that has been going on for 222 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: decades and hundreds of years well beyond us, and how 223 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: our country is set up infrastructure wise, but it comes 224 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: down to their train. It comes abound down to those 225 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: de escalation techniques, those those interactions of at police stops, UM, 226 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: how to properly cuff um, how to defend yourself obviously, 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: if you're a confident human being who's done martial arts, 228 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: you're really comfortable defending yourself. You know, you know, I 229 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna really you're not gonna relate to lethal force so 230 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: quick kind of listening to that side from a police officer, 231 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: listening to the side as a black man growing up 232 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: in America, I try to build a bridge and start 233 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: a company with my dad and all a majority minority 234 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: police officers, all retired, to go around and train different 235 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: police departments on how to properly de escalate, like you 236 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: talk about using your voice that stops, and and the 237 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: proper things to say and kind of um those rules 238 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: and regulations, and then if it does get to that point, 239 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: minimum force restraint, UM, not lethal force obviously. So I 240 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: started that company called rast Um, trying to highlight, you know, 241 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: trying to be that bridge in the middle, trying to 242 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: highlight those good police officers stuff. I didn't want to 243 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: give up and write them all off. You know it's 244 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: crazy because a lot of people, I know Dad has 245 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: a similar cause, and just a lot of us who 246 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: are multiplayer man, of your candidates feel like they get 247 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: the pulse of what's needed and and act, step up 248 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: and act and be more than just tweet, be more 249 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: than just words, be more than shut up and go 250 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: sack the quarterback to do a little a little more 251 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: than that. So I just wanted to start with Dad 252 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: and highlight that. I think it was super dope all 253 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: your causes, but I think that was one that was 254 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: close to me that we can kind of relate over 255 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: and and when that was really timely and and really important. Absolutely, 256 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: So tell me that you got you got this sack, dancer, 257 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: you stack them up? What does that mean? Because every 258 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: time I watched you stack him about lately, So tell 259 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: me what does that? What does that come from? Man? 260 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: Big levels bro. So my rookie year, man, I mean, 261 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: now let's just be real, my rookie year, I had 262 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: one sack, you feel me. Yeah, I'm ten years later, 263 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: year eleven, I'm sitting at a hundred seven sacks. We 264 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: do we we just do that, man. I mean it's 265 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: a little under like whatever it is it's a little 266 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: over ninety years, not quite ten a year. Um, but 267 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: you take that rookie year away. Now we're sitting that, 268 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, a hundreds of six sacks over ten years. 269 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Now we're talking about great numbers. But but that's just 270 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: a part of the journey. So my second year in 271 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: the league, I'm starting getting some sacks. I'm starting to 272 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: go a little crazy. I think I had like a 273 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: three piece against Mike Vick my second or thirty year 274 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: in the league. So I'm I'm I'm high key feeling myself, Like, bro, 275 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: come on, you can't tell me there's not an athlete 276 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: a lot that didn't look up want to be like Mike. Now, 277 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't Atlanta Mike Vick. It was you know, it 278 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: was at Philadelphia Mike Vick. But he still had a honey, 279 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: he's still gonna still gonna crazy. He had to. He 280 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: had prime to Sean Jackson like you know, going going 281 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: super crazy. You had, you had Shady McCoy, you know 282 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it was they're going crazy. Um 283 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: had had, like I said, had the first three sack, 284 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: gave my career my o g s at the time. 285 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, Roman Harper, John Wilma, Um, I'm looking up 286 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: to guys like will Smith, Roman Harper is like, bro, 287 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get a sack dance. That's one. Let 288 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: the fans get behind you, like you gotta get the 289 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: people going. Like you know, I think at the time 290 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: he was doing the Uncle Berney. He was out there 291 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: and shaking, breaking his back. Every every place was old. 292 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: There was some old They don't have vets like that anymore, 293 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, like you guess me and you are the 294 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: bets nowadays. We don't have a full gray hair. We're 295 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,359 Speaker 1: not wearing the baggy suits. You know that these vets 296 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: like Vince will Ford. When I came to the league 297 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: and I was on the page, is that we will 298 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: for We had some dude that literally was his daughter 299 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: was my age. He was that old, you know, so 300 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: it was it was older. Event the league is younger. 301 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: He's talking about some O G O G Best Super 302 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Super O G. Party hard on Sunday, party hard after 303 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: the win, party hard on Monday. May go crazy on Tuesday, 304 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, start steaming it out Wednesday and be like 305 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, now now we eat too healthy. Now everybody 306 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: is so like mentally conscious mentally where of what everything's 307 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: going on? But um bro, So they came to me 308 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: and was like, I was like, bro, you gotta get 309 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: you a dance. At ain't going to like the fans 310 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: can get behind, and it ain't gonna be like it 311 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: ain't gonna consume a lot of energy because what you 312 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: don't want to do is be gas for the next play. 313 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: And Roman was like Romans like, bro, it's market marketability. 314 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, I think i gotta get something 315 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: I can get behind. And you know, I saw, I saw, 316 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: I saw what was it like on the outside linebacker 317 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: from the Chicago Bears or Detroit like do a do 318 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: a kick in the air. I was like, that's clean. 319 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: I could do that or one of these kicks, bro, 320 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: And then he like popped his achilles. I was like, 321 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: that's not what you want right. So then I was 322 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: just like, well, I gotta I gotta Like when it 323 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: just happened when one player I like got a sack 324 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: and started, I was like, man, I was like rookie 325 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: year I had. I was like saying, and now I'm 326 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: going crazy. I'm just stacking. And I was like, man, 327 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I was like there's levels, you know, And so it's 328 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: been it's been levels ever since. You feel me so 329 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: eleven years later, a hundred seven sacks in its levels 330 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: of this. Now I see it. I see I've been 331 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: watching that obviously, the last couple of games at the 332 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: end of the year, and I saw you got a 333 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of them at the end, finished strong, which all 334 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: that matters. And I saw you. I'm like, where did 335 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: he get that from? Because I never really had one thing, 336 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: and I always I have some dudes doing I never 337 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: had that one thing. D beats different. Get the pig 338 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, Oh you didn't runs in the end zone. 339 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Everyone runs in the end zone and doesn't pose. I'm like, bro, 340 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: we gotta stop running to the end zone. I want 341 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: to stop the run to the end zone and flick 342 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: up like wave. I don't know. You should do that. 343 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: You should do that because you know my team was 344 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: the first to do that. So y'all have the most handshakes. 345 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who Johnson, Gardner, Johnson, I don't know 346 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: who started. Y'all be dapping. Someone makes a plight. There's 347 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: ninety handshakes going down. Hey, squad, deep, bro, we're gonna celebrate. 348 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm just glad. I'm just glad, like, you know, dbs, 349 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to just get them some weird thought. Them 350 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: boys get an interception finished on the thirty Them boys 351 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: are run seventy yards Like I'm like, I'm like, let's 352 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: just go to the closest end zone. That's what I'm 353 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: working on. Like, we don't have to stop run into 354 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: the endzone. Let's just run to the closest end zone. 355 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: But we're in the middle of field. Let's run to 356 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Logan like, you can't tell 357 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: the cameras don't follow. No, I agree. Sometimes, like, bro, 358 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: I just covered about eight seconds. I ain't trying. I 359 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: ran to you about thirty. Now we're gonna run back 360 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: to the opposite way. Seven guys. I don't know. But 361 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just sometimes in the bat you know, 362 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm always thinking about the next play type. God, 363 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about the next play guy. So I 364 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: was like, bro, we gotta get something else. You know. 365 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: We had a couple of you know, we had a 366 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: couple of um Tennessee, we came out with a little 367 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: a little line choreograph dance. That one kind of viral. 368 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: I think you gotta let people do something different, dance 369 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I think the group celebrations 370 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: taken away from the game, the whole group. Let's let's 371 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: let's let it ride. Let it ride. What if you 372 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: got enough in it to do so? Let it ride. 373 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm only in there for a turnover at the end 374 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: a half and in the game, Like if I feel 375 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: like it's about in the game, right, let's go. I'm 376 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: gonna have playing a game though. Are you out there 377 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: all eight? I mean I'm trying. I'm trying to get 378 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: a hundred percent of them at this point. Now. My 379 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: coach is like, yeah, I swear they got me on 380 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: the play account. They like, can you gotta relax? Run 381 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: me all of these my boy, I'm here for a 382 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: practice reps. I'm here for a game reps I want. 383 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: But I think I averaged like eighty five percent now 384 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just dropping. I used to be. 385 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: I used to be well above ninety percent. Now it's 386 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: just like I'm like, yo, what's up? What's the change? Like, Bro, 387 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: we're trying to prolong your career. Who I'm gonna let 388 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: years in? There is no such thing as prolonged. And 389 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm living now like you said, if you said, Cam, 390 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: what do you were getting your career? I don't know. 391 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: Not putting the offensive play to let me play the 392 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: fullback dive so I gets a couple of touchdowns because defensively, 393 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: I lived my best life. On every snap, I'm trying 394 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: to choke out a tight end. I'm trying to I'm 395 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: trying to get after the quarterback. It's whatever I don't have. 396 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't have regrets on the field and running off 397 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: the field and on the fields of playing itself. It's 398 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: more tiring to run off the field and on the field, 399 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: and it's just stay in. Let me stay here for sure, 400 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: for sure. That's why I like to play a hunted. 401 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm playing a hunt it. I don't come off the field, 402 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: you know. It's just it's read them, its groove. You 403 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: don't even get tired when you're and honest, when you 404 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: getting your rhythm, it's not even you know what it is. 405 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: And I think like what you said about taking a 406 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: lot of practice reps. You know, I'm from you know, 407 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: the Giants and in New England and stuff's not a 408 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of vet days. And I don't know how y'all 409 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: do it, But I practice every day and when they 410 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: just try to give me VET days, I'm like, I 411 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: took one VET day in Tennessee and I was only 412 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: like year seven or eight, during season seven, and he 413 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know you've been banged up. You've 414 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: been I've been playing through some injuries. Why don't you 415 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: We're giving some guys off on a don't you just 416 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: stay in? And I was like, I'll get treatment. And 417 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: the next day I thought I was terrible on practice. 418 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm never doing this again, Like I can't 419 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: just go a day off and just get out of 420 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: my rhythm, mant on my groove. No. I honestly like 421 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: during season ahead of that day, what's that, don't I 422 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: don't know what that is? Up until this year, like 423 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: literally the last like five weeks, they were like yo, man, 424 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: Like they're like, hey, man, what happened? Oh? No, I 425 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: came back from COVID. So I came back from COVID 426 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: on a Thursday, right, So I missed today like I thought. 427 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: I thought I'd be back Wednesday, but I had a 428 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: negative whatever, it's ten days maxed out, I'm back on Thursday. 429 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: So I had the Thursday game or Thursday or whatever. 430 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: So then We had the game on Sunday, and I 431 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: went crazy. You know what I'm saying. I went, I went, 432 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: I went, I went animal like stupid, balistic, like missing, 433 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: and this was my first time missing the game since 434 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: my sophomore year of college. You feel me like, so 435 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: I'm over here on like a different hunger Paste than 436 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: everybody else. I'm like, bro, like I just watched you 437 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: guys play the Jets, like you know how bad I 438 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: wanted to play the Jets Like some teams You're like, damn, 439 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: that's a Max Max team. I'm playing the Jets like 440 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: like you know you're eating that game. So I didn't 441 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: get to play that. I'm just at home with my 442 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: kids eating bean deal. We're all asymptomatic boarded like, I'm like, bro, 443 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I should be playing right now. I'm sick. So I 444 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: get back on Thursday. We play Sunday, I go, I 445 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: go for like two sacks whatever it is, right, I 446 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: think we played the Monday maybe play the Dolphins whatever, 447 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: it was two sacks, So they're like, yo, that works. 448 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Wednesday comes around a cam after uh after Andy go 449 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: inside was like, what you're talking about is that now 450 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: you're done? I was like no, i was like, what 451 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: you what are you talking about? It's not up for discussion. Alright, Bet, 452 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let this ride because we just bawled out 453 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: and I'm still a little sore. Bro Again, I think 454 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: we played Tampa. We smack Temple, And when I say 455 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: smack Tample, Tampa, Yeah, I'll play play Tampa. Well, nine 456 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: to zero, Like nine to zero, that's tough. I'll say 457 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: They're They're wide receiver corps is probably second to nobody. 458 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: The Rams maybe might have might have a right receiver 459 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: corps that could could probably compete. But Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, 460 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Chris Go, Yeah, that's tough. You got Leonard for Nett 461 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: playing some of his best ball, got Tom Brady out 462 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: there chucking that thing whatever it is. Nine zero, Bro, 463 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: Next week comes around another another day on Wednesday, and 464 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, yo, chill, yeah, Like like I'm 465 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: like hey, but like I I enjoyed practice too much 466 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: not to be a part of it, so I fully understand. 467 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: But it finally happened this year year eleven. I got 468 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: like Wednesday, Bro. The last four games. It was weird, 469 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: but also we gotta we gotta all, you know, taking 470 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: account how weird. This whole COVID stuff was so you know, 471 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: like just playing obviously we know like I missed. I'm 472 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: like a player who missed two games because of COVID 473 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: and in the CDC, yeah, I was. I was someone 474 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: in my family had it and I was sick, reporter, 475 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: close contact and I was testing on Tuesday, tested negative, Wednesday, 476 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: tested like twice a day, Thursday, tested Friday at pop. 477 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm asymptomatic. We go to Tampa on Sunday. The whole 478 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: game it's gonna be about how you know, Logan Rhymes 479 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: matched up against Tom Brady, his former teammate, and blah 480 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah play him in the playoffs and 481 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: and the secondary versus them. And I'm watching, like you said, 482 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you want to play the Jets, and I get that, 483 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: but I wanted to play Tom Brady. Like that's the 484 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: ultimate chess match. You know what I'm saying. That's suit 485 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: for a dB. You're competitive, you're safety disguise coverage, Like 486 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: can I can I trick them? Can I get the 487 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: ball off the kind if I get Tom Brady ball, 488 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: Like that's going crazy. So I missed that game and 489 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: then I come back and pretty much didn't get out 490 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: til Sunday of the game. I try to play, Oh, 491 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: we gotta you gotta ramp up, and we mean gotta 492 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: ramp up. You gotta ramp up for ten days. CDC 493 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: changed everything two weeks later to five days. I'm like, 494 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm the only player to leave and missed two games 495 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: because the COVID and I have not missed the game 496 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: in years. Man, I probably missed less in five games 497 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: my entire career, So that was had had me hot. 498 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: But that's just how weird it's been. And I really 499 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: feel like my team needed me those games for for 500 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: rhythm and just where I what I mean to my 501 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: team and where our teams at that point. That was tough, man, 502 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: I was. I was on the trampoline bounced with my 503 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: kids for conditioning, and it was freezing out and I 504 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: was like, now I get this condition and I'm bounced 505 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: on a bounced on the tramp and all my family 506 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: has COVID. We're all chilling, not too bad, but man, 507 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: I was like, like, you haven't been working out, I'm 508 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: on the tramp or you ever bounced on tramping for 509 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: an hour. That's hard to play the game, I said. 510 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: I want player, go get me a playing our team 511 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: up some family for an hour. That was doing whatever 512 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: I could, man, I was doing whatever I could. Have 513 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: hated hated missing those games. That was. That was especially 514 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: when you feel like you could be out there. But honestly, 515 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: COVID is a new new thing we're all dealing with. 516 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: It was this crazy. So you talked about it about 517 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: you know, why you came up with the celebration and stuff. 518 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: You see my you know, your brand is for a 519 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: defensive player, and we know we don't get as much 520 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: exposure as offensive players, not fantasy for us, and you're 521 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: one of the more marketable defensive players. Was that a 522 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: point of your career we kind of thought about marketing 523 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and your brand, kind of marketing your brand, like your 524 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: legacy and and and and when does that come in 525 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: your mind? You know, when it comes to just I 526 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: want to come in the league and make plays to 527 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: actually I want to build a brand with this. Man, 528 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever thought about building a brand 529 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: with this. Honestly, just been enjoying the entire ride, you 530 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I had I had 531 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: a dad who played for the Minnesota Vikings for thirteen years, 532 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: six time pro bowler. You know, there's a lot, there's 533 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: a lot of growing, there's a lot stuff growing up. 534 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: You're like, man, that's it. That's a pretty big shadow. 535 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you Steve Jordan's you 536 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: Steve Jordan's son. Like you know what I'm saying. Even 537 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: at the senior ball, you feel me like college all 538 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: that they're like, oh man, you Steve Jordan's something. Man, 539 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I remember when you playing your posts, remember this is 540 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: It's like it's like you also take pride and like bro, Like, 541 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: my dad's legacy was he was a hard ass worker. 542 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: You feel me like he won He won the iron Man, 543 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, the iron Man from all their old school 544 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: conditioning tests. He was everything that you wanted to be, 545 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: a consummated proach, like bro, Like, it's not about living 546 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: up to that, it's about being proud of it. So 547 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: my pride is my legacy. You feel me like my 548 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: pride is supreme when I'm over here, like like i'm 549 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: playing too, like not the coaches standard, I'm playing in 550 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: my standards. I've got things that I want to accomplish 551 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: in this world. And so I let feel the talk 552 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: always talk for yourself. I started off, you know, they 553 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: wanted me to play a three technique. They really drafted 554 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: me to stop the run. They drafted me as a 555 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: four eye you feel me Like, I worked my way 556 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: off to the edge and it it was like this is 557 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: this is one. It's way easier on the joints to 558 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: not have to hold up the guard and the tackle 559 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: versus a tackle in a tight end who made a 560 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: heavy tight end. May wait, what to fifty these days, 561 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I ain't no, yeah, there ain't no more Craig Stevens 562 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: anymore there, you know, like true blocking tight end. So 563 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather, you know, we get out to the edge. 564 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: We were setting that thing. We we play, we play 565 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is, but we set the tone. So it's 566 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: just it comes second nature. It's like, bro, like if 567 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: I play the run, then we can really get after 568 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: the passage. And my coaches, my coach that came in, 569 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: my D line coach, right Nilson came in and was like, 570 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, stop the run and have some fun. I 571 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: was like, well I've been. That's been like mantra of life. 572 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: My boy, Like I'm here for that. So when it 573 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 1: comes down to it, I'm playing to my standard. I'm 574 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: playing the I'm playing for everything that my pride stands on. 575 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm here for all this, Like I try to tell 576 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the teammates, bro like I bring hands to work every day. 577 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: The Lord blessed me with hands, so I gotta bless 578 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: somebody else with these, You feel me, So I'm here 579 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: for all that. So when it comes to when it 580 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: comes to like, where's it come from, It's just a 581 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: set standard. No, it's the tone. It's the tone says 582 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: passion you lived for. Like all the best teams I've 583 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: been on when you talking about your team, all the 584 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: seems I've been on my Patriot days when we had Willford, 585 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Mayo and mccordy, even last year on the Giants when 586 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: we had dal Dalvin Thominson and we have Blake Mariotinez 587 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: and myself. When you have like when you tell me 588 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: about you um and double D de Mario and Malcolm 589 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: Jenkins you brought in that's leadership, like true rare leadership 590 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: at all three levels. And I felt like at D 591 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: line a lot of times because y'all are violent individuals 592 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: who go after it. You don't always get your best 593 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: leaders in that position. Group don't typically have captains all 594 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: the time for that position group, but y'all team does. 595 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: So tell me about when you're playing. You know, you've 596 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: got Malcolm joined the team. You have to Mario come 597 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: and have the best sears in his career, which y'all 598 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: like feed off each other. All three levels kind of 599 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: set the tone because it's different the front. It's different 600 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: with the backs have to do. The backs were part 601 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: of the front seven and the back set in the 602 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: back seven is different the front. But the state doesn't 603 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: get down there sometimes, so it's almost like two lines 604 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: of defense out there in the game. So tell me 605 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: we're playing with this those two key vets? What that means? 606 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, g t you and your game and your 607 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: team and the kind what y'all bring man at that 608 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: at that linebacker corps, I haven't seen the leader like 609 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Damari Davis since John Wilmo, you know, like just like 610 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: a true leader that has everybody's ear like that can 611 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: fire people up, that can challenge people, um and know 612 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: the back end to the front end. You know, like 613 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: if you like, hey, Cam, you know you got this. 614 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: You got these over routes coming, you got these slant routes. 615 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I may understand out of dragons, you know, sevens, 616 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: digs ends, I may understand three different route concepts in there. 617 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: I got nothing for you after that. But you know, 618 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: you talk to a linebacker, he understands all the excess 619 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: and those so he's able to communicate from top to bottom. 620 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm over here like I'm working off for energy vibes, 621 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm working off of a pure a bro. We need 622 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: to lock them down. I needs you. If we're gonna press, 623 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: we're gonnaress, we're gonna cloud, we gonna cloud if we're 624 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: gonna whatever it is. But that's about all my verbgone 625 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: is gonna give you. Then you got you know Jenks, 626 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: who's a safety, but you know he's he comes down 627 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: to play linebacker and plays at this point. You know, 628 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: the strong safety is just an outside linebacker to me. 629 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: So for that, like I'm talking to them and they're 630 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: talking to everybody else, you know. They it's like it's 631 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: like I'm giving up energy, they're giving out commands and actions. 632 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm handling my d line, they're handling each respective. It's 633 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: not like you have to really look back and be like, man, 634 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: this is where you need to be. Everybody's there already 635 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: like like and and the fact of it is, it's like, 636 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, we were more of a VET team this year. 637 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: It's like you had guys who've been playing together for 638 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: four years. Our defense, Like you saw the strength of 639 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: our defense really come on. Because it's guys like Marcus, 640 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, Marshawn Lattimore, everybody been there four years, Mark 641 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Marcus been there. What this is a fifth year you 642 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: talk about Malcolm Malcolm Jenks has been there two or 643 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: three years now, that Mario has been there five years now. 644 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: Like everybody's jailed up together because we know exactly what 645 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: we can and what we can't do. You know, you 646 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: look across the D line, it's still Marcus davenportan is Is, 647 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: David anyamada Um. It's guys who've been playing together. I 648 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: don't think we had one starter, one new starter other 649 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: than a debo. You know, you had Chauncey Gardner, Johnson 650 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Johnson into a third year with p J. Willis behind him. 651 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's been playing together when you know what everybody can do, 652 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: Like I know exactly where he gonna be. I know, 653 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: you know exactly where I'm gonna be in there. That 654 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: certain level of trust is there, and that trust is there, 655 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's everything. Like, bro, I don't have to 656 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: do anything more than my job, and I do my job, 657 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: damn well. The accountability is there too. You're practicing every day, 658 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: so you're pushing the energy. And when they see you 659 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: out there pushing energy like I run on the field. 660 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm the first touch the ball every rep, every day, 661 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: every day, I'm out there and the first on the 662 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: field in the game, I'm running as soon as the 663 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: kickoff goes through the thing. I'm running to that to 664 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: get to the hash first, to set to set the 665 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: field for my team, taking the field first. And when 666 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: you have multiple guys like that, accountability guys, energy guys, 667 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: guys in charge of at and of that group. I 668 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: don't know how y'all kept together so long. I don't 669 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: last at long. I don't know how y'all were able 670 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: to keep together so for so long. Drafted field, everyone 671 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: playing together five years. I don't know how I can 672 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: get that. Things get broken up. It's not I'll say 673 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: it's not gonna last long. It's not. We'll see what happens. 674 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: So tell me about obviously, you know what Drew Brees 675 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: meant to you in New Orleans and his hit being gone. 676 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: But what did you learn from? Because I pick up 677 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: so many stories and I just pick up like I'm 678 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna pick up something from you in this interview and 679 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: back all right, Like that's that's the beauty of hosting this. 680 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: I get to talk to successful people, high energy people, 681 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: great leaders, great people in the community, and I get 682 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: to pick I get free game, I get the host 683 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: of podcasts, I get free life lessons and the viewers, 684 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: the viewers get it too. So what did you learn 685 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: from a Drew Brees. I heard he stands in the 686 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: cold tub up to his neck every morning. Like there's 687 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: like there's like miss out there about him. Like Kenny 688 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 1: McCarroll told me Drew Brees going to the cold up 689 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: for twenty minutes or something like Friday and Carroll standing 690 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: in the cold toup every Friday for like twenty minutes. 691 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: I'm was way too long. But Drew Brees, I'm like, oh, 692 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: I gotta work. Then I went, no, I don't touch 693 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't teuch the cold up. Uh, there's there's there's 694 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: there's a mythology about this cold tub. Talking about it. It 695 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: It helps you recover it helps you cool down during 696 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: training camp if it gets to that tough and you 697 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: got to get in there. But I guess, but I 698 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: don't get in no cold tub. I wouldn't know. I'm 699 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: avoiding the cold tub. It all costs. I don't. I 700 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: don't do anything under seventy five. I'm not getting Nah, 701 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: it's not me. I look at them and they're they're true, 702 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: they're true warriors, because that's things I won't do. It 703 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: better be playoffs if I'm playing in the cold, like 704 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: what we are like, this is better mean more than something, 705 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: It better mean everything. Um. Yeah, I mean when you 706 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: talk about what I learned from Drew Brees, I mean 707 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: I would say his meticulous methology, methodology of like approaching anything, 708 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: um for the eleven years, right, I watched him go 709 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: from what retired last year was two, so from thirty 710 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: let's call thirty to forty one, right, he would say 711 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: the back half of a man's career, like when he 712 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: gets older, when he gets allegedly more tired. I never 713 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: saw a drop off in the way he approached his 714 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: workouts and the way he approaches conditioning and the way 715 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: he approached his warm ups. Everything was set but when 716 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I tell you a model of consistency, wake up. Whatever 717 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: was I know if I come into the building for rehab, 718 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: before rehab, whatever it is, Drew's already there. I know 719 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: that he's breaking the film. I know that on Friday's 720 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: this is that's where he gets his his dry needling 721 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: or whatever he does with It's like i'd be I'd 722 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: be on you know, rehab from PT. Drew walks in, 723 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Friday. That's my bad. This's his table. 724 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: This is what he's doing. Like I already know. I'm like, 725 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: like I made a joke over at the point, it's 726 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: like Andrew's here. I gotta go no, can we got you? No, 727 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: you don't. Let's let's let's keep it. Let's keep it 728 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: in a book. Let's let's be g realist. It's it's 729 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: it's his table, now goodbye. You know what I'm saying, 730 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: Like right on schedule, knew exactly. I try and get 731 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: in right before trainer in the league got their favorite players. 732 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Though we all know certain guys touch certain guys guys 733 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: and normal when the quarterback walk walks in, you know 734 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 1: you're on the clop. Now when Drew brees walks in. 735 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: That's immediate. That's you know, you know, if you if 736 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting whatever work you're getting from from 737 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: west Our head trainer at the time or west bow 738 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Our head trade. I went all the way back to 739 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: college with that one bow Our head trainer at the time. Um, 740 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: you knew, you knew he was headed towards Drew Friday, 741 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: that that was his day. That as soon as he 742 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: walked in, he you know, and then Drew so gracious 743 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, bodacious, you know five minutes. It's 744 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: not five minutes, it's it's right now. He's just letting 745 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: you know that he's here. But all right, But bro, 746 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: it's it's that meticulous, like just mythology, methodology of of 747 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: going to work, of everything, set everything, He's going to 748 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: be done the right way everything, even if he's not 749 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: even practicing, he's still out at practice, you know what 750 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like he's making all of his shadow throws, 751 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: he's got the DA, he got the Dak Prescott hip flipping. 752 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's pointing where exactly what's going he's over 753 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: Like in mental reps, you could tell if he's having 754 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: a good mental rep or bad mental rep like you 755 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: can hear it, Like he was like, you know, he'll 756 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: like you're you're sitting there, like if you don't know 757 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: Drew ro like you're over here watching It's like what 758 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: is he on? Like what what? Who are he talking to? 759 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: You know? Patriots Saints were joint practicing, y'all and the 760 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: Greenbrier every year or something. And we're going against We're 761 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: going to the walk through day to day and we're 762 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: out there and flip flops and y'all was on that. 763 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: BS ain't know. I've never seen anything like that before 764 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: y'all came out and flip flops. I was nervous for y'all. 765 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate doing the crossover the Patriots because you guys 766 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: were a slow temple for us. I said, I like 767 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: what they do practice. Y'all practice at temple out the 768 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: huddle as a walk through. And then y'all have Brandon 769 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: Cooks and I'm covering Brandon Cooks. And I noticed all 770 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: week Drew through the ball and he will go through 771 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: all his other reason literally moving his shoulder and they 772 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: throw the ball to each one of his reads. I'm 773 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: on Brandon Cooks, he run a fade y'all hand the 774 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: ball off and he go to you know, I'm a dB, 775 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm playing that, I'm playing the hands. He put the 776 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: hands up. The ball doesn't come to him. Every play 777 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is visualizing catching the ball and it's freaking 778 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: me out because he's not getting the ball. And now 779 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know when he's actually gonna get it or not. 780 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: So I'm on edge, like jabbing, like did I just 781 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: missed a pick? And like the ball is completely thrown 782 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: other way. But watching Drew and watching him practice, that 783 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing I ever seen. I'm like, wow, 784 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: they literally like this this two corner. They can't do 785 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: this every play, and they literally did it every play. 786 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's what made Drew Brees great. After 787 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: every throw, he goes to every other progression after that, 788 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: And that was just that was just crazy to see. 789 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: I've never see anything like unreal. Unreal. I probably won't 790 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: ever see anything like it. Bro Like, it's just who 791 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: he is. Bro Like, and I'm telling you, like, like 792 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: I said, conditioning, let's say like conditioning tests, Drew is 793 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: still probably one of the best conditioned athletes in the game. 794 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: Bro Like, he's proficient at almost everything. Like when I say, like, oh, 795 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: if you if you go bowling, Drew's probably bowling a 796 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: buckety if you going golf and he's he's dropping you know, 797 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: under eighty. He's like he's good at everything. It probably 798 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: goes home and practices a thousand times too, you know, like, 799 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: all right, I bowled, Watch what I do next time? 800 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: Watch Watch? I didn't. I didn't like. I didn't like 801 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: he's probably doing shadow reps right now, Like yeah, oh man, 802 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think this has been been great insight. 803 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: And you know what is so we talked about you know, 804 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: legacies every day. Do you have a date or not 805 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: a date, but do you have an idea of how 806 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: much long do you want to play? How? How does 807 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: the how does the endgame work for you? How does 808 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: it you get to a point where you achieve a 809 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: lot of things there. I'm sure you're living in it 810 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: and now just enjoying it now, But what do you 811 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: look at with that you have a great family and 812 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: you balance that, what do you say, like all right, man, 813 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: I'm I'm good. I'm just I'm gonna do it till 814 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: I enjoy it or what is your target year in mind? 815 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: How does that work? How does your endgame work? I 816 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: think I told myself i'd get to year ten and 817 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: reassess the way I felt after last year. Um, I 818 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: was like, bro, i feel like I'm so irritated that 819 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: we've been so close this last four years. I was like, Bro, 820 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: I was like, how can I retire? So I didn't 821 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: even entertain the idea this year. I'm like, I'm like, bro, 822 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: like you're levin, I feel great, Like, in fact, I 823 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: feel better this year than I did the last two years. 824 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: Like there's always gonna be knicks, bruises or whatever. But 825 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: it's like, I was like, all right, well I'm going 826 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: to year fifteen right now. Like I was like, all right, 827 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: I'll re check in a year fifteen, and I might 828 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: get to fourteen and be like, all right, it's trying 829 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: to reach check in, but I'm at least three years 830 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: out from me even re checking back in in terms 831 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: of in terms of health, I'm not even engaging me. 832 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well, where can we get better 833 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: as a D line? I was like, I'm already I'm 834 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: already playing like Marcus. Marcus is elevating his gameplay. Got 835 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: a fifth year left with him, and I was like, David, 836 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: on Youmada's out here elevating his gameplay, but they keep 837 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: trying to stow us in a three four. If we 838 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: draft another d tackle, I said, then they have to 839 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: play a four three. Then I'm really eating you know, 840 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm not even worried about me. I'm worried. 841 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm worried about what we can do for the defense. 842 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: So until until I lose love for this game, until 843 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: I start focusing on like damn, I wonder if my 844 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: back is gonna hold out or one of my shoulder's 845 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna hold out, or with this, with this, this is 846 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: aking me? Can I play another year? I feel good? 847 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Like anything changed from nine and ten? Training wise? Did 848 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: you did you do anything different? Because I am year 849 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: nine and I feel pretty good, you know what I'm saying, 850 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know I'll feel on the level. We'll see. 851 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: But is there anything? But I'm always looking to change 852 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: my off seasons. I'm gonna run more, I'm gonna do 853 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: less that, I'm not gonna load my back at all. 854 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: You know, I'm always trying to try to adapt. I'm 855 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: always about to adapt and bro living and we want 856 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: to change that need be. I say, I probably put 857 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: a bar on this back maybe twice a year off 858 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: some just like pride type stuff. I'm big pitch shark name. 859 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: We seen squatting this out by boy, Like, ain't no 860 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: bar touching this back. And that's probably been since like 861 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: your four five. Um. But when I think about what's changed, 862 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: probably like everybody gets like everybody in the league has 863 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: that availability of like a awl cat's right, everybody does 864 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: a food sensivity stuff. I was like, this can't be 865 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: it like this like everybody gets this. Everybody then there 866 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: has the same stuff that's like, oh this is irritable, 867 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: this is or whatever. So I did some research. I 868 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: did like real blood work, you know what I'm saying, 869 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: Like cost cost a low key bag to figure out 870 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: every food that's good for me. And it's not just 871 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: like what's irritable whatever. It's like down to the blood 872 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: cell of what helps your your blood flow, what helps 873 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: your blood push, what helps whatever? Um, And just that 874 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: knowledge alone, I can't be honest with you. And like 875 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: that follow this trickly because I like a good cheeseburger 876 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: every now and again, like I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna 877 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: get this wonderful truffle mash when it comes like I 878 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: can't stop myself from being legendary. When it comes to food, 879 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm a fat kid, Like I'm a fat kid at heart, 880 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm a fat kid as I am, like 881 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: I love I love great food. I'm a foodie. Um. 882 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: But it does at least open up your your mind 883 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: to us, Like eating to like live versus eating to 884 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: just eat. It's different mentality. So I'm sort of like 885 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: on this in season, eat to live, like you know 886 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, eat to live to the best 887 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: of my potential abilities. I thugged it out my first 888 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: ten years, and I was like, you know what, after 889 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: talking to guys like Bruce Smith, you know, after talking 890 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: to guys like Michael Strahan, talking to John Randalls, you know, 891 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: like legends, like but what chains They're always like, hey man, 892 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: I started dropping a little bit weight every year, and 893 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this body probably ain't gonna drop 894 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: in weight, my boy, but we could, we could, We 895 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: can at least feel a little bit better. And that 896 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: I got the blood work done and like I said, 897 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: sort of sort of tightened up the diet. But I'm 898 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: my own cook. Anyways, It's crazy because people get fixated 899 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: on the secret, like what's this, this, this book, this, that, 900 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: this that, And everyone has their own process and it's 901 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: really just enjoying themselves and and fair will works for them. 902 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: And I, you know, I live in Tampa. In the 903 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: off season, I spoke to Ronney Barbara a lot, and 904 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: I was like, played sixteen years, never missed the game. 905 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: And to me, that's like, let you ask, like you 906 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: see that I'm saying, never missed the game. You're a 907 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: hunting ninety pounds tackling linebacker, star corner safety. You never 908 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: missed the game and your Hall of Famer and all 909 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: that stuff, and you're throwing your body around and I'm like, bro, 910 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: what's the key? Like whatever you do? Tell me? And 911 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: he's like, man, I just eat, you know, like relatively healthy. 912 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: But he's like, honestly, he's like I left at the facility, 913 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: he said, but I gat I got up and I 914 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: would run. He's like, I'll run and knock them all out. 915 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: But it's like I A. Running's like it's conditioning conditions 916 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: to keep the durability. I always made sure if I 917 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: was I was in shape, and if I thought I 918 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: wasn't in shape. I run a little more after practice. 919 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: It was like that simple, and I'm like, that's it. 920 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: Just like run a little more after practice if I'm 921 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: figling my shape. And he was like, yeah, I don't, 922 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: don't overthink it. But I always took from that like condition, 923 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna do any in this off season 924 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: and make sure I'm in shape and make sure I'm 925 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm moving, because you know, you want to sit around 926 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: for three weeks and and drink a little you know, 927 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: be a Somalia. I'm trying to be a Somali drinking 928 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: a little red wine. I'm a foodie as well. Go 929 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: to Disney where with the kids eat around the world 930 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and you gotta gonna look out 931 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: it away. You gotta just want to get away and 932 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: be on the couch. And that's cool. But for a DV. 933 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: When them legs out working, I don't care how smart you. 934 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: I ain't got no shots. So you gotta keep them 935 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: legs moving. So can you can you hoo the because 936 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: you know your wife Scarlett Knighte, she can hoo She 937 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: hooped in Jersey. They ain't no basketball. She's a general. 938 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: So I said it up. She's a general. That's all 939 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying. She went to Man, it's it's rare, first 940 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: like actual athletes to come out of Rutgers. You feel 941 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: me like, it's it's probably you heard now, come on out, 942 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: you're here. When it was putting them out with twins 943 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: all the man so five. I mean I played with 944 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: Shamon cow Right, I played with Yeah, yeah, a couple 945 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: that's my dog, you know, just like you know we 946 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: got we got the most Yeah, we got most Pro 947 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: Bowlers going to the Pro Bowl this year out of 948 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: the school. But I mean, like whatever, yeah, it is 949 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: what it's combarrassed at all times. Um, but no, I mean, 950 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: like honestly, in fact, let me ask you this because 951 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: you might be the first person that actually enjoyed Did 952 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: you enjoy your time at Rutgers. That's that's what That's 953 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: what I came. That's that's what I get from every 954 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: Rutgers person. But I've never been like asked me if 955 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: I enjoyed cow Come on, try I mean, what do 956 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: you try to say? I played for Shiano and was 957 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: just really like tough, like it was a tough it 958 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: was the times of all like my eleven years and 959 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: league I have never once ran into anybody from Rutgers. 960 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: It was like, bro, you enjoy Rutgers. It has always 961 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: started off with the I mean, oh, I've never once 962 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: bro like you asked me, like, Bro, did you enjoy Cow? 963 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: I could have left after my third year. I didn't 964 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: think about it. I'm coming back like I was so excited, 965 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: like because I'm like, what, I'm playing football, I'm enjoying 966 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: Cow like I love God Bears. I walk around go 967 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: Bears like, and I get that being with being with 968 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: the Scarlet Knight, being married to somebody for Rutgers I've 969 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: never met. I've never met anybody. Then be like, man 970 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: if I had a fifth year with a stay, but 971 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: I asked him for the fifth year eligibility. I was like, yo, 972 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't really need to go like I'm cool right here, No, 973 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: all right, I'm out to the league. Then I guess 974 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: now I appreciate you. Dog Um, I definitely gotta get 975 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: your line. And we just think, are you I'm sure 976 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: you'll be out the Super Bowl? Right yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 977 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: you know I'll be working. I'll see you on the 978 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: see you on the round, no doubt. Man, Hey, stay blessed, 979 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: my guy, I appreciate you. 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