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Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Bobby Brown. I have wanted to meet

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Speaker 1: Tony co for a very long time. I've heard through

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Speaker 1: mutual friends that she's a powerhouse. She is the founder

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Speaker 1: of the makeup brand NIX, which is also n y X.

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Speaker 1: I want to find out how it's pronounced. But I

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Speaker 1: also want to just hear her journey. She came here

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Speaker 1: as a kid from Korea, she sold the company, and

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Speaker 1: she's done so much more since. So I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to the conversation with Tony Co. Hey, Tony, nice to

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Speaker 1: meet you. I Bobby. Nice to finally meeting you. Tony

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Speaker 1: with an eye and Bobby with an eye. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who we have in common, but some

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Speaker 1: really cool woman said to me after I left Bobby

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Speaker 1: Brown Cosmetics and I was trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do. She said, oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: have to meet Tony. She is the coolest and she

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Speaker 1: just left too, and you guys have to get together,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't, but who knows what would have happened

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Speaker 1: if we did. But nice to finally meet you. I

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Speaker 1: know so nice. I'm so happy to meet I just

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Speaker 1: want to quickly say that you know that I've been

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Speaker 1: wearing your eyeshadow for like ten years. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: it's not my eyeshadow anymore. It might be the one

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Speaker 1: that I made, but yes, with your name, with my

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Speaker 1: name on it. Yeah, you know. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but I I don't feel emotionally attached to the original company.

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Speaker 1: I've kind of moved on. I don't know, how do

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Speaker 1: you feel. Um, I felt super attached for like the

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Speaker 1: first three years and then I had a gradual dwindle

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Speaker 1: down that that that attachment over probably like the next

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Speaker 1: the two years after that and out, I of course

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Speaker 1: nearly loved the brand and everywhere I go, like if

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Speaker 1: I see it, it just makes my heart flutter. But

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Speaker 1: it's not like, oh my god, that like like I

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Speaker 1: created that, Like that's my company that I don't have,

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Speaker 1: Like I just wish the best for them, and then

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Speaker 1: that that's so nice. Well, we have so much to

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Speaker 1: talk about before we get to that point, because I

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Speaker 1: just want to know so much about you. I know

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Speaker 1: you moved to America when you were a kid like thirteen?

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Speaker 1: Is that true? From Korea? Right? South Korea? Not North Korea? Ima,

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Speaker 1: that's all I know. So what was it like coming

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Speaker 1: to this country as a thirteen year old? You know,

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Speaker 1: thirteen year old back in six and thirteen year old

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Speaker 1: now is very different. So, um, well, back then, like

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Speaker 1: we were really really innocent and like literally like I

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. I was a little

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Speaker 1: kid coming I moved to us basically because my parents

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Speaker 1: that we're moving. It was it wasn't my toys. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I was super excited because I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the land of Disneyland and bananas, like,

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Speaker 1: because banana was really expensive back in back in the

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Speaker 1: days in Korea and all I wanted to do is

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Speaker 1: it as much bananas? Again? That's so cute. And your

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Speaker 1: parents were in the beauty business. Um, yes, after we

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Speaker 1: moved to us, they were in the beauty business. So

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Speaker 1: we started with a beauty supply store. And is that

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Speaker 1: how you got interested in beauty? I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: how I got into and got interested in beauty. I've

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Speaker 1: always been interested in beauty. I'm a consumer. I'm probably

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Speaker 1: the ultimate consumer of all things beauty. And uh, my

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Speaker 1: parents being in the business did propel the interest even further. Um,

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't because of that business. So that's what

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Speaker 1: it's more like. Well, I have to say, looking at

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Speaker 1: you know, I am sitting here in my husband's closet,

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Speaker 1: I have not put any makeup on, I haven't done anything,

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Speaker 1: and you look like you're ready for a red carpet

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Speaker 1: or a photo shoot. Do you do this every day

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Speaker 1: like I got ready for you? Oh my god? Well

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Speaker 1: then then maybe hold on, let me, let me. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll have to call you back. But I think you

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Speaker 1: look gorgeous. Yeah, well you look you look gorgeous. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: So so when did you get the idea for and

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Speaker 1: how do you even say it? And how do you say?

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Speaker 1: I always say n y X yeah, which most people do,

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Speaker 1: and I don't mind. Um, it's Nicks, it's nicks. Yep.

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Speaker 1: NIX has got us a night for Greek mythology, like

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Speaker 1: word knicks. So and I remember the first time I

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Speaker 1: saw it. I walked by I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: was a pop up something in Union Square or one

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Speaker 1: of your stores, and I was like, you know, for

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Speaker 1: was like, what is this? So tell me about how

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Speaker 1: you got the idea? Um the store actually is a

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Speaker 1: post my exit. By the time I sold a company

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Speaker 1: was we had a concept of an individual like offline

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Speaker 1: retail stores. It had not been launched yet. But then

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Speaker 1: the idea behind the entire brand was because I was

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Speaker 1: really looking for something that I would be proud of

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Speaker 1: using and my friends would be proud of using. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I started the company when I was twenty six. I

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Speaker 1: was in my twenties and young, and I had a

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Speaker 1: great quality cosmetics that didn't break my bank. So where

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Speaker 1: did you Where did you start? You didn't have a

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Speaker 1: So where did you start? I started? So the reason

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Speaker 1: my culture, in the Asian culture, at least back then,

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Speaker 1: like you were expected to go work at your family

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Speaker 1: was twenty five years old and I was only allow

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Speaker 1: ones I've never like, so I've never officially worked for

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Speaker 1: I've always worked in a family business, but I've never

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Speaker 1: officially worked for anybody, so I've never officially made money.

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Speaker 1: I've never had a salary. I never had to check

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Speaker 1: why I was always poored. Not many twenty five year

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Speaker 1: their rent. So you had this idea, and what did

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Speaker 1: you do with it? My so, my mother was my

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Speaker 1: first investor. So say, so, you know, family, family money,

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Speaker 1: family seed money. And when I talked about my business

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Speaker 1: idea my mom, she glad run me a check and

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Speaker 1: how many years like top plus years of of employment

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Speaker 1: that I have free employment that I've given her. But

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Speaker 1: she wrote me a track, and you know, she said

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Speaker 1: something really amazing. Um, she said, all right, like now

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Speaker 1: he said, do whatever you wanna do, don't be afraid

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Speaker 1: younger rather than we're older. But then how did you

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Speaker 1: know where to begin? Like what was your first step?

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make lipliners and eyeliners. If you remember,

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Speaker 1: like in the early nineties, um uh, we we all

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Speaker 1: used to wear like these dark brown lip liners with

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Speaker 1: clothes and took a cab out to the factory and

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Speaker 1: had a meeting and came back the same day. That's home. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then how did you market and sell? And what

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Speaker 1: and things like that. It's like marketing and things like that,

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Speaker 1: like if you take two days marketing concept the method

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Speaker 1: Like marketing back then was your traditional advertisement on vook

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Speaker 1: or like your TV TV ads that right, which was

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Speaker 1: But my marketing is word of mouth. And how do

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Speaker 1: you get word of mouth? You sell great product at

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Speaker 1: a great price. But where did you sell? Trade shows?

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Speaker 1: Trade shows? Okay, you started trade shows? Yeah, so um,

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Speaker 1: I hit the I hit the trade shows. And there

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Speaker 1: first three years I received like zero orders from like

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Speaker 1: Uh last year. I've seen that gal last year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: be here ready for you when you are. So who

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Speaker 1: wrote your first order the Alta not from a trade

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Speaker 1: show like this is later on, but anyone like recognizable

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Speaker 1: name will be Alta will be my first order. But

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Speaker 1: the year I launched Alta, we're about twenty million dollars

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Speaker 1: in revenue. Wow? So how long was your line out

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Speaker 1: before you sold it? Like? How many years? Years? Fifteen years? Okay?

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Speaker 1: My success? And why did you decide that it was

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Speaker 1: time to sell? You know? I like so lived mixed cosmetics,

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Speaker 1: I literally had no life. Um, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it was like. One day I was in uh

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Speaker 1: it's spread wider. But women are obsessed with skincare and

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Speaker 1: all things beauty and like they look like they're not

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Speaker 1: wearing anything on their face. Trust me, they're wearing like

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Speaker 1: twenty different items on their face. They put so many

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Speaker 1: items on to look like they're not wearing anything. And

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Speaker 1: but skincare. Let me tell you my mom maybe where

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Speaker 1: I cream starting like eighteen years old and my mom,

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Speaker 1: like my first image of my mom from my childhood

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Speaker 1: is her with cucumber slices on their face. And it's

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Speaker 1: like the best, like the easiest, chipest, cheapest, like the

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Speaker 1: quickest like beauty of routine that you could do is

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Speaker 1: like you either like great grind great uh this is

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Speaker 1: my yes English second eguige moment, or like you like

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Speaker 1: thinly sliced cucumbers, um, uh, fresh cucumbers and you just

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Speaker 1: put pieces on your face and it's amazing for your skin.

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Speaker 1: Um or like her like massaging her skin all the time.

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Speaker 1: She my mom is seventy six years old. You should

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Speaker 1: see this woman like she looks like at least like

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Speaker 1: fifteen years younger than she does. And uh um, she

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Speaker 1: would not step out of the house without being fully done,

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Speaker 1: like her hair, makeup, like everything. Well, you got good

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Speaker 1: jeans and tell your tell your mom. She did a

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Speaker 1: really great job with you. Thank you, thank you. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: be safe and I look forward to connecting next time

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