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Speaker 1: J J. Watt in the backfield j J. Watt, Baby

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Speaker 1: Hunter to the ten, to the five and end of

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Speaker 1: solved its touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, Pins Garden, Nobody, Here's Paul caldc.

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Speaker 1: You know, in so many ways, I think it is

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Speaker 1: a crime that we are not a video podcast, least

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Speaker 1: maybe not yet. Hint, hint, foreshadowing. Perhaps a good point

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Speaker 1: because right here, right now, somebody get my picture, because

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Speaker 1: this is as close as I'll ever be. Danny. I

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Speaker 1: know you're looking at me already, but I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: show off his biceps. Right, tight T shirt. No, right now,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that this is close as

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Speaker 1: I'll ever get to being a CEO of anything, being

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Speaker 1: in charge of anything, just being at the head of

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Speaker 1: this table right now, in this meeting room, this conference room,

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Speaker 1: in this hotel on the top floor with a view

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Speaker 1: of downtown Nashville and yours. Truly for some reason unknown,

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Speaker 1: you know, truly random must be honest that I'm at

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Speaker 1: the head of this table. I'm feeling pretty powerful right now.

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Speaker 1: I'll do you know, I might have to, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: issue a decree here by the end of Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Pacific Office Automation Danny Serek And

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Speaker 1: that white Cardinal's T shirt. You look like a CEO, Paul. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where's the tie anything? But we need to get the

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Speaker 1: tie again. Let's see, he's got a T shirt, he's

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Speaker 1: got shorts and tennis shoes. Yeah, he definitely looks the part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you this. This is we're not even on

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Speaker 1: the top floor. I briefly went in the top floor

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Speaker 1: yesterday to kind of inspect the the workout room. I

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Speaker 1: are like right out on like the beautiful downtown, Like

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Speaker 1: it's actually worth like getting on a treadmill or something,

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Speaker 1: the hotel. Can I give you a pro tip on

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Speaker 1: working out at a Cardinals team hotel has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with the workout itself. Just make sure you're not

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Speaker 1: working out when the team is around, because inevitably one

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Speaker 1: or two or three of the ninety guys will be

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Speaker 1: same weight room. I've done that before as a as

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Speaker 1: an NFL player, that happened. That's happened to me a

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Speaker 1: few times. And you want to feel like less of

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Speaker 1: a human being, get in a weight room when there's

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Speaker 1: an NFL player next to you, even if it's the

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Speaker 1: hotel weight room. Okay, it wasn't a Baker in that

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks clip he said he was lived in, Like,

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Speaker 1: what what were those weights? One? Ten? You can't do that, Paul,

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Speaker 1: and Paul Paul insulted him. I made the mistake of

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it came out. It was I

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Speaker 1: realized exactly what you're doing like halfway through, but when

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Speaker 1: you first said it, I thought you were insulting him.

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Speaker 1: To guess. Buddha took it like like I'm going to

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Speaker 1: So I gotta find Buddha at some point and explain myself.

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Speaker 1: Although I did take just just to did take some

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Speaker 1: blowback on camera, that's true, just as a quick refresher.

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Speaker 1: Buddha was doing some weightlifting for the latest Hard Knock Shrug.

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Speaker 1: He was doing shrugs with dumbells, and Paul noted that

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Speaker 1: they were one hundred ten pound dumbbells, but he just

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Speaker 1: said they were one tens, right, And Buddha is like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: then you made the point rightfully, so that one ten

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Speaker 1: You know what, Also, we didn't get we didn't get

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Speaker 1: It's right role reversal. Darren had the bucket hat on,

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Speaker 1: wearing my sunglasses indoors. You know, in all honesty, the

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Speaker 1: bounce these out. What's worse forgetting your bucket hat when

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but Carson Palmer did that

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Speaker 1: and I said that's not allowed. That's not stylish. All right,

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Speaker 1: So things we said about this, we'll go forward in

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Speaker 1: the following fashion. Things we did see and did not

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Speaker 1: we did see DeAndre Hopkins and more than one one

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Speaker 1: he said? He's content for his ig right, So there

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Speaker 1: you go. I means Instagram, Paul, thank you, And so

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Speaker 1: he went on YouTube. Man, okay, so it just it

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Speaker 1: is it a little bit depressing? After today that okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: play six games. You know what's interesting. We were leaving

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Speaker 1: But the guy a lot of people wanted the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Justin Pugh. You know, there are a couple of teams

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked didn't make a trade for Cody Ford. I'm surprised,

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Speaker 1: all right now. Absolutely, And you wonder a little bit

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Speaker 1: about you know, everybody said old fifth round, fifth round,

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Speaker 1: don't have to wonder about, right knock on this mahogany

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Speaker 1: wood conference table over here smells of rich mahogany. Dennis Gardeck.

425
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: What do we make of Denis Gardeck? What do I

426
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: need to ask Dennick Scardick on the big red rage

427
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Speaker 1: here in less than twenty four hours, because man is he?

428
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: Is he look good or what? And he was given

429
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 1: Taylor Luan. Taylor Luan was having some Chandler Jones flashbacks

430
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 1: based on Dennis Gardeck coming around the edge with abandoned today,

431
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Dennis has looked good throughout. I don't know if this

432
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: is technically still training camp or not, but throughout training

433
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: camp in a pre season has looked good. And I

434
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: feel like almost every practice he is getting verbal praise

435
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: from a defensive coach special teams. Something he is getting

436
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: pointed out of how well, he is practicing, and I

437
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: think that that is a good sign for somebody who

438
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, had that ACL injury two years ago and

439
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: was working through that, and somebody who's going to be

440
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: having a much larger role than he's used to. That's

441
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Speaker 1: what you want to see. And I feel like he's

442
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: been practicing well up until this point. When I look

443
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Speaker 1: at Dennis, I mean, you got a guy who went

444
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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty thinking he was never going to play defense.

445
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: Probably then Chandler gets hurt, he's forced to play defense,

446
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: has the unbelievable production of seven sacks and what was

447
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: at ninety four defensive snapps? I had ninety three? And

448
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: then I now I'm reading ninety four. Do we have

449
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: some revisions history going on? Here? Is this concerning to you?

450
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: Your anal is whatever? But anyways, um so, so let's

451
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Speaker 1: say it's ninety three. Whatever it is. It was amazing

452
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: and then he and then he hurts his knee and

453
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: he was clearly not the same last year. And it

454
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Speaker 1: feels to me like you're getting a guy who is

455
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Speaker 1: now completely healthy, but he also has that mental not

456
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: only knowledge but confidence that he gained through that whole

457
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: year To go back with that body, and that's what

458
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: it looks like to me. Now, is he going to

459
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: be a guy that's going to get you ten to

460
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: twelve sacks every year? I'm not going to go that

461
00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: far yet, but I do think he can give you

462
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: a lot more than a lot of people might think.

463
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: And obviously that's super crucial. And the fact that Marcus

464
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: Golden hasn't practiced since August first has given Dennis Gardack

465
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: a ton of reps, a lot of them with the

466
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Speaker 1: first unit, and I just I like to be able

467
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: to put him out there. I agree with Danny. I

468
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: think he's looked fantastic and I hope he stays healthy,

469
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: which I don't see why he wouldn't, because I think

470
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: this guy has got the mentality and the ability, even

471
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Speaker 1: at his size, to get some things done in the

472
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Speaker 1: past round. If you talk about that confidence, I mean

473
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: he had that contract extension as sure, that plays a

474
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: large role. Not as well, is that three years? Yes,

475
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if Marcus Golden is wondering about himself, Well,

476
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: guess what, He's scheduled to make more money this year

477
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: than Marcus Golden. Yeah, well, so hence, yes, you know

478
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: what might be the toe injury. So look, it's just

479
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: the way, junk It's just the way. So if you

480
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: look at that outside linebacker spot, because there's a couple

481
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: of assistant coaches who are adamant from day one the

482
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: most competitive rooms on the field going into camp, we're

483
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: running back and outside linebacker, outside linebacker. What are you

484
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: talking about? Well, so now you have Marcus Golden, you

485
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: have Devon Kannard. I think showed up pretty dang well

486
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: against the Ravens. He showed up in the stat sheet

487
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: all over. I think he's regular season ready. We just

488
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: talked about Dennis Gardeck Victor de mukg as anybody made

489
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: more progress in the last year, the number fifty two.

490
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Speaker 1: And it's funny bringing up you talking about Gardeck and Luan.

491
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: There the one time that I saw something out there

492
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: today that had a chance of sparking. Never quite did

493
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: tell Luan and de Mukagi. And I think de Mukagi's

494
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: got a little bit of that that and so many

495
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: people have compared him to Marcus Golden, a little bit

496
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: of that junkyard dog. I think I think Victor's got

497
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: a little bout that too, And he's got a really

498
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: cool name I like Victor mug he him say that

499
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: a lot. Him and Marquis Hays, towards the end of

500
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: camp were this close to going. They were John. We

501
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: know about Marquis. They were John and they were going

502
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: at it. And Marquis says, was doing with his hand

503
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: like keep talking and flapping his hand, and Victor D.

504
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: McCage said, I'm right here, you can come after me.

505
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: And there was all bunch of back and forth, and yes,

506
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Speaker 1: I agree with him. In terms of the body type.

507
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: It was interesting some of the old linemen compared to

508
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: him to Elvis Dumerville. Oh, that's a that'd be I mean, obviously,

509
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: if you we know, Wolf likes to talk about James Harrison. Yeah,

510
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: and that's the other one. A lot of James Harrison. Now,

511
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: Elvis Dumerville and James Harrison. We're just talking body types.

512
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: But inevitably when you bring those names up for body types,

513
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: people start saying, oh, are you saying it could be

514
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: like that? All right, we were not going to get

515
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. But if he could be a little

516
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: bit like those two guys, those are those are two

517
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: really good pass rushers. So again, things we've seen and

518
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: haven't seen we've seen those four guys show up at

519
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker spot. We haven't really seen much from

520
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: my J Sanders and Cameron Thomas and Jesse Luketta had

521
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: a nice start, Tom, but it's sort of I don't

522
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: know a plateau a little bit, if you will, So

523
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: I think the inexperience, just their state as rookies and

524
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: making a position switch, especially for a Cameron Thomas and

525
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: my J Sanders being asked to do some different things

526
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: that he didn't necessarily do at Cincinnati. I think there's

527
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: a bigger learning curve for those guys, and maybe we

528
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: had anticipated at least I'm not expecting any of those

529
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: three to be a situational pass rusher week one. I

530
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: would agree with that. I do think from what I

531
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Speaker 1: can gather from what we've heard from you know, coaches

532
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: and whatnot, is that MAJ Sanders seems to be ahead

533
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: of Cam Thomas in that sense, a little more comfortable.

534
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: But it's pretty much all come off as just being

535
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: really raw. You're right, Paul of there's a big learning

536
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: curve and it's just going to take time and it's

537
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: going to take reps. But unfortunately, I don't feel like

538
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: we're going to see that immediate impact from those two.

539
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't, at least not for the first couple of weeks.

540
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: And that's what's hard is if this defense is going

541
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: to have to start doing things by committee to fill

542
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: that void of Chandler Jones and just roped the passer,

543
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: it's pretty thin at the moment. Well, and you know,

544
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Devon Knard wasn't out there today. I don't believe. I

545
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: don't believe I sell him out there. I didn't see him.

546
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what his situation is. Um, I'm thinking

547
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: he's good. He was our post game guests after the

548
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: Ravens game. So yeah, I'm guessing was VET Day. I'm

549
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: keeping fingers place on that would have been VET Day.

550
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, most guys who were not doing much were

551
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: still out there. I mean even Marcus Golden was out there. Uh,

552
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: it's true watching his teammates. And by the way, the

553
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: Titans big pass rushers were going, Bud Dupree, Harold Landry,

554
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, Jeffrey Simmons, Derre Tart there, they're a big

555
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: TI mean, there were there were some good battles. Cody

556
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Ford against Jeffrey Simmons, h D j Ford looked pretty good. Yeah,

557
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: and DJ Humphreys against Bud Dupree. Those are DJ look

558
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: I thought looked good as well in a lot of

559
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: those one on ones. I just I think when it

560
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: comes to the younger pass rushers for the Cardinals, it

561
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise. I mean to me, you're either you come

562
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: out of college. You're either like next level Chase young,

563
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: one of the Bosas something like that, or you take

564
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: some time to get there. And I when you're talking

565
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: about two third round picks, I'm thinking it was going

566
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: to take a little time for Cameron Thomas and my

567
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: J Sanders to get there. I always kind of looked

568
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: with everything everybody talked about with Sanders that he was

569
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: kind of raw anyways, So this does not surprise me.

570
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: And the question becomes then, like you said, like can

571
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: they make it work with Guardek and Kennard and Marcus

572
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Golden and Demo KG in the short term? Now, I

573
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: think you you're gonna throw some Isaiah Simmons in there

574
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: once in a while, maybe even some Zavin Collins in

575
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: there once in a while and kind of do some things.

576
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it was interesting. Ryan Tannehill told

577
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: told reporters that the Cardinals got a little more compkated

578
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: defensively then you would normally see in a joint practice.

579
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I heard that which felt like very much of a

580
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: backhanded kind of comment. And was it an observation, a

581
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: backhanded comment, or an excuse? Maybe because they didn't look

582
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: very good? Drill? But see, the question is then becomes

583
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: where the Cardinal where the Cardinals a little bit more complicated?

584
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Was Vance Joseph. It's on the flip side of what

585
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: you're saying being an excuse. Was Vance Joseph trying to

586
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: do some things to make his guys feel good about

587
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: where they are right now because they're not gonna And

588
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: this is what I struggle so much. I got a

589
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: couple of tweets after the after practice, Hey, how are

590
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: the rookies looking at this? Something? I can tell you

591
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: some of this, But like every year we get we

592
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: get to the regular season, we watched a little bit

593
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: of stuff and I'm like, wow, I never saw that coming. Now,

594
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: didn't really see that coming. I mean even last year

595
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: in a good way. Did I see the Cardinals coming

596
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: out and stopping the Titans? No, no, no, no, So

597
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just so hard to know until

598
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: you actually get out there for reels. I will say, though,

599
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: not just the two minute drill. I mean, look, there

600
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: was a lot going on when it was one on

601
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: ones because the times much the Titans have three practice fields,

602
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: and so you've got essentially like one sometimes two drills

603
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: going on on both sides of all three fields. So

604
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: I felt like I was just constantly walking back and forth.

605
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: But I will say it looked like the Cardinals were out,

606
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: We're beating and out playing, and a lot of those

607
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: one on ones, I felt like the wide receivers you're

608
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: talking about, that d hop catch Javonte Peyton had a

609
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: really nice he beat his guy, he like put them

610
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: on skates and fell, and he had like a really

611
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: good one on one. I also really liked what I

612
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: saw from our dbs going up against the Titans wide receivers.

613
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: I just felt like, as a whole, yes, the two

614
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: minute drill, but I felt like, as a whole in

615
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: those one on ones as well, that the Cardinals looked good.

616
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, although it did make me

617
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: think a little bit, especially when it looked because I

618
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: was trying to watch the Cardinals dbs and how they did.

619
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to confuse the Titans pass

620
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: receiving corps with yeah, anything good. And I didn't see

621
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: Robert Woods out there. I didn't. And Treylon Burke's left

622
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: before the eleven on eleven, so you know, and the

623
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: guy the other guy they have listed as a starter,

624
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: and I can't even pronounce his last name, and I

625
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: note to self, I'd better figure that out by Saturday night,

626
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: number fifteen. He wasn't out there busy, So you know,

627
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: so you got any plans you want to hang out?

628
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: You know, Danny's looking forward to standing outside in the humidity. Darren, Darren,

629
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: we are. We are walking out to practice, and it

630
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: was beautiful when we got out there. And I don't

631
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: know how I knew, but Darren started his sentence and

632
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: was like, so did you know like on Saturday? And

633
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: he paused for a second. I looked him because I'm

634
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: doing sideline out on the field, which for our broadcast,

635
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: and I looked at him. I said, I know you're

636
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: not about to tell me that it's expected to be

637
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: like ninety percent humidity during the game when I'm going

638
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: to be out on the field, are you When he

639
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: goes no, I was just going to tell you how

640
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: like excited I have to be out here, you know,

641
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: because she started talking about how nice it is. And

642
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Chris Melvine, the media relations guy who stands on the

643
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: sidelines of the whole game, had already mentioned to me

644
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: how potentially miserable it was going to be, and I

645
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: was just gonna use it. She had said how nice

646
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: it was in the morning, and I was going to

647
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: use it all. Yeah, Chris was talking about how and

648
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: it totally I just in my head that Danny was

649
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to be out there for a chunk of

650
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: time too. How disappointed would you be if it was raining, Danny,

651
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: because I don't want that. I remember what was it

652
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Seattle or Chicago or where this past season where you

653
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: had that game got too many together, but the Jacksonville

654
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville last year in Week three. You want heat and humidity,

655
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: and of course you're on the visiting sidelines, so the

656
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: sun is just drowing you, I mean for four hours.

657
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: And and Chris Melbourne's credit, he will wear that suit

658
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: and he will stand there like he's a guard at

659
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace. I mean, it is amazing. He does not

660
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: break for alms. I need you to cut that so

661
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: I can send it to him. I will say he does.

662
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: He does a lot better handling the elements in his

663
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: suit than than I ever do walking up and down

664
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: there with a headset on. Put it that way. So

665
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: so yes, you know, get yourself mentally. It's in the evening. No,

666
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: it's an evening game. The sun will be down, Danny.

667
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: What do you have to worry about it? I mean,

668
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: you were out last night, oh last night, after dark.

669
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: Nothing that we talk about is nothing off limit. You

670
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: had no problem walking up and down Broadway last night?

671
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: What about the sideline? I mean, right right, Okay. It

672
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: took me to task. Now it's just open fire. Speaking

673
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: in Nashville. We came out here. In fact, it was

674
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: twenty ten when the last time the Cardinals came out

675
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: here for a for joint practice. And this is how

676
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: long ago was. I had a freaking BlackBerry, and uh,

677
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it was the middle of the day

678
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: and Fitz had asked us to meet with his social

679
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: media guy, and so we're down there. It was me

680
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: almost you were there, and I may have partaken in

681
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Broadway the night before, and I had may have mentioned it.

682
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: I was fine, but I may have mentioned it to Fitz,

683
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: which was the dumbest thing ever. And he while we're

684
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: talking to this guy, I put my BlackBerry down. Another

685
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: dumb thing to do. He took my BlackBerry, went on

686
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: my Twitter account and tweeted out having kind of a

687
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: rough day after going out on Broadway last night. That's great.

688
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it's really good. That's not right, that's solid. Well,

689
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: so I take you I mentioned on the podcast more

690
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: than going out on my twitter feed. That's sorry. We

691
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: were doing a big red rage some five, six, ten

692
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: years ago whenever it was, and he gave away one

693
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: of Tim Howick's cars unannounced at the end of the show.

694
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Tim Movick was giving away a

695
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: brand new car he wasn't aware of and Fitz was

696
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: just on air. I'm sending it to one lucky member

697
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: of the audience. I think we've all got some foot stories.

698
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: That was solid. So, but you're Larry. You get away

699
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff, you know, I mean, he's

700
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: got to get out of jail free card for life.

701
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: It just works. You know who else? Sorry, getting back

702
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: to football, because I'm sure you know, as fun as

703
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: it is talking about how I went out on broadaway.

704
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: I was still very punctual down to the lobby to

705
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: get a minute early, I believe, thank you very much. Um.

706
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: You know who else yet again looked good at practice

707
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: was Greg Dortch. Yeah, continues continues to look good. And

708
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I was when the three of us were standing watching

709
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: the two minute rolls and he had I don't even

710
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: remember what the play was, but he had a play.

711
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: And I looked the two of you and it just

712
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: kind of clicked for me that I hadn't thought about

713
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: how Christian Kirk leaving this off season free agency was

714
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: directly affecting Greg Dorch because now Rondel Moore was going

715
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: to have a larger role on offense and see Kirk's absence,

716
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: so that not only gives Greg Dortch the opportunity to

717
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: have more time on special teams returning, he's also had

718
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: a really good camp and can now play that role

719
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: maybe that Rondo Moore had. He can have more snaps

720
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: than last year. And it all comes back from Christian

721
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Kirklevia and I hadn't really thought about that until today.

722
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: But he yet again had another good practice. He yet

723
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: again received praise from AJ Green when AJ Green was

724
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: talking to the media, a really good camp for Greg Dortch,

725
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: and if Rondale Moore doesn't get back on the practice field,

726
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna need him. I'm not saying that that's

727
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: what they're gonna be. I noticed AJ Green mentioned when

728
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I asked him about all the wide receivers banged up

729
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: right now, and he goes, most of us are back

730
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: in three to five days. And I'm like, okay, Doc,

731
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: we're at the Joseph. We're not at a holiday in Express.

732
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I trust that. Well, you

733
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: know what, since teams, yeah, team teams are not required

734
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: to put out the injury reports, as we've already stated

735
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: a nauseum. But I mean, we just go to aj Green.

736
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: He'll give us the report, he'll let us know exactly

737
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: who's scheduled, on what timetable and so forth. But he

738
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: was genuine when you who asked him about Greg anyway,

739
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: it was Jim. It was a genuine response to me, Jaker,

740
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: you can tell oh no, no, yeah, you can just

741
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: sell when it's okay, all right, I'm pumping up a

742
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: teammate or if he really meant it. And that's why

743
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: I've asked the follow up of like, so do veterans, like,

744
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: do you guys end up with favorites yourselves that you're

745
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of rooting for? Yeah, because that's the first thing.

746
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: That's why I asked the question, because the way his

747
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: face lit up talking about Greg Dortch and then later

748
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: he was also talking about Andy Isabella to a certain extent,

749
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: but it was just you usually don't see players, especially

750
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: in the same room, like talk about the He definitely

751
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: likes likes to see it when Greg Doorge succeeds. And

752
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: unlike the three of us, what do you say about

753
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Greg Doorge and Andy Isabella? They don't complain, right, They

754
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: just come out, They show up every day, they go

755
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: to work, no whining, nothing. Well, we didn't even haven't

756
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: even talked about Andy Isabella. Thee what he said after

757
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens game. That is right. I'll tell you what

758
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: during that Ravens game, and what do you have three

759
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: at least three first down catches and Ravens game, including

760
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: including a sliding grab for a first down. Speaking of Holmes,

761
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: I said in the headset in the talkback, sometime in

762
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: the second half, I said, you know what, He's made

763
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: a fifty three. If he hasn't made the Cardinals, he's

764
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: made someone's fifty three because this game's on national TV

765
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of teams that aren't nearly

766
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: as loaded a receiver as a Cardinals, and if he

767
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: hits the street, somebody's picking them up. Let me ask

768
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: the two of you a question, because I started Week

769
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: four last season, so this is my first training camp

770
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals. But from what I have learned, it

771
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: seems like Andy Isabella always has a good camp. So

772
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: what is not translate it? Is it not good at you?

773
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: You're good at camp, You're not good enough to play

774
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: in the regular season? Is it because the wide receiver's

775
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: core is just so good here? What do you think

776
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: has been I would say he's having a better camp

777
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: than I've said. Well, he's catching the ball a lot.

778
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: He did not have a good camp last year. He

779
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: had COVID and then he I think he got hurt.

780
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: It was not good last year, and last year was

781
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: the year everybody's like, Okay, you either have a good camper,

782
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna cut you. And I think that's what been

783
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: kind of the weird thing with Andy Isabella is is

784
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: they've kept him through all this and and that's what

785
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: I when he said the other day. And you know,

786
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: obviously his draft status has a lot to do his

787
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: draft status has a lot to do with it. But

788
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: there's there is obvious frustration from Andy Isabella that he's

789
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: still here and I don't. I mean, he made it

790
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: pretty clear the other day when he was talking. He's like,

791
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, they're not going to break me.

792
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: And he didn't do it in a mean way, but

793
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's a reality. Like he put out on

794
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: an Instagram right before training camp about how much he's grown,

795
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: and I think he's trying to embrace whatever he's in.

796
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: But he said the other day, he goes, I know

797
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I can play. It's just a question of where it is.

798
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: It might be too late here. He gets lost in

799
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: the show. He's Look, he's he's not ahead of DeAndre Hopkins.

800
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be ahead of Hollywood Brown, he's not

801
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna be ahead of aj Green, he's not gonna be

802
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: ahead of Rondale Moore, and he's probably not going to

803
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: be ahead of Antoine Wesley. So at best, that's your

804
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: sixth receiver. And we haven't even talked about Greg Dortch,

805
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: So the question becomes, do you keep him here in

806
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: the short term to have a sixth receiver because DeAndre

807
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: Hopkins is suspended, or do you just move on from him.

808
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: He asked for a trade, They gave him permission to

809
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: look for a trade. Nothing came out of that this

810
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: offseason that the Cardinals were okay with. But let me

811
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: ask you, this d hop is not going to be

812
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: there for the first six games. We don't know the

813
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: status of Antoine Wesley with a hip slash groin. So,

814
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Natalie, could he make the team? Do you

815
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: think he's gonna dress Week one against Kanca c Just

816
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: based on the state of the receiver room, he might

817
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: have to. He might have to. And it's a little

818
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: concerning just from the standpoint of so who are you

819
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: dressing that first week? Let's say you dress five receivers,

820
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: probably tops okay, So let's say even if you want

821
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: to dress five, AJ Green's pretty big, it would Brown's not, Randell,

822
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: Moore's not. Andy Isabella is not. Greg Dorch is not.

823
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: I mean, because they brought in Marcel Aitman, but then

824
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: he's gone. Yeah, I'm still holding out hope that Antoine

825
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: Wesley can come back, but they've got such a small

826
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: receiving room. You know, I don't know if zach Ertz

827
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: is their tall guy. But getting back to your question, Isabella,

828
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: I just I think they keep hoping that he turns

829
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: into something that for whatever reason, he hasn't turned the corner.

830
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, his two the two biggest thing knocks on

831
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella has been too many body catches, doesn't catch

832
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: enough with his hands, and struggles getting off press coverage.

833
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't, And I would add

834
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: he at times loses confidence and he's admitted that. Yes,

835
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: so it was, But I think the confidence thing, I

836
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: don't think that's a problem anymore. No. In fact, that

837
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: was part of his quotes. I called him up right here, quote,

838
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: this is the best football I've been playing. I have

839
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: complete confidence. He said that unprompted, and he looks that's

840
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: key because he knows. He's admitted on the big Red

841
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Razor Revore that has been an issue. Well, it's it's

842
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: a little bit like a Liner. Now, Matt Liner had

843
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: other issues, but one of the biggest things that happened

844
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: to Matt Liner was Ken Wi't Hunt was a was

845
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: a yell in your face, not a pat you and

846
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: the butt kind of guy with quarterbacks. And Matt Liner

847
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: was a guy who needed pats on the butt. And

848
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's it's tough to go through what

849
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella went through and not completely lose your your confidence.

850
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: And I get that. And between that and and I

851
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: don't think Cliff Kingsbury's lying when he says it's or

852
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson when he calls it a numbers game with

853
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella. That's true. Now, part of the reason it's

854
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: a numbers game is because Andy Isabel isn't good enough

855
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: to surpass the guys in front of him, or hasn't

856
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: been good enough. But I mean, who were you putting?

857
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: You know, the dorche thing, I think really crystallize everything.

858
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean Greg Dortch came in and then he was

859
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: the guy getting reps last year, getting snaps, getting game

860
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: day dressed. Not Andy Isabella wasn't getting those snaps. It

861
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: was Greg Dortch, so was shown up and shown out. Yeah,

862
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was wrong on the out team,

863
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was wrong. But but then what

864
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: really I think when he when he says and I'm

865
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: quoting him now. They stack the odds against me, but

866
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't phase me. They can do whatever they want.

867
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: They ain't going to break me. Yes, I think when

868
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: they also signed Victor Bolden Junior, No, that's also true.

869
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about. Hey, it's another Victor good name,

870
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: so right there, you're like, oh my goodness, where does

871
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: he figure? Well? And sorry, and John Trey Kirkland has

872
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: had a couple of good plays at the training camp

873
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: as well. Absolutely, it's I mean, there's if he's the

874
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: first guy they're going to sign to the practice squad,

875
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: probably John Trey Kirkland. If Andy Isabel is on the

876
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: fifty three to start the year, I'm not one hundred

877
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: percent sure he's on the fifty three to end the

878
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: year and thinks, well, okay, so if you could get it,

879
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: But I'm still rooting for him. I like Andy c.

880
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: If you could get a six or seventh round pick

881
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: for Andy Isabel right now, would you do it? I

882
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: would I would say yes, But and I would think

883
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: he would embrace the trade. I think I think you

884
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: have to know exactly what direction you're going in. I

885
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: think you have to feel pretty confident zach Ertz is

886
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: going to be fine when the season starts. I think

887
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: you have to feel pretty confident. Rondale Moore is going

888
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: to be fine to start the season. Those both maybe

889
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: already givens. I just don't get to know those things

890
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: because Cliff's not gonna tell me. I thought you had

891
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: more pull than that, Darren. I don't know why you

892
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: think it's funny that I like the name Victor. Do

893
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: you know we talked about naming my son d'Artagnan. Probably

894
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: not very seriously, come on, we could talk about it. Well,

895
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: you're a big fan of from some movie or something.

896
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, you like the candy Bar. Now, we're

897
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: just that's one of those things you do when you're

898
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: trying to figure out names for your your first kid,

899
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: and you're screwing around and you're trying to find stuff,

900
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: and in my case, trying to find names that I

901
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: knew my wife would be like hell no and still

902
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: want to like push him. Everyone would call him Dart,

903
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: So that's what she said, We'll call him little Dart,

904
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, we're Natan m where everybody's got

905
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: to call him d'Artagnan. And there's a damn apostrophe, and

906
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: that's how it's going to be. Okay, and what day

907
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: did you hup? Going with Alec? Okay, a little easier

908
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: and I got ripped by Buddha. What's going on around here?

909
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean, is there no justice out there? I'm you know,

910
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: come on, what's going on around here? Getting a little

911
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: slap happy here, Paul? Okay? So what else have we

912
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: missed from this joint practice? That is newsworthy, not worthy?

913
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: Anything else? Pretty much? There was no fighting. Are you

914
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: disappointed or not? Yes or no? Danny Serek, No fans

915
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: are gonna hear me say no, and they're going to

916
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: be disappointed to me that I'm not disappointed that there

917
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: wasn't any fighting. That's not what you want. I mean,

918
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast from the beginning. You've talked about

919
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: how banged up this team are. Cliff, I'm sorry. I

920
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: understand maybe as a fan that could whatever, but that's

921
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: that's not That's not what you want when you're entering

922
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: the final days of the preseason, get ready for your

923
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: home opener. I'll be honest, we've seen anne of them

924
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: when I started from stadium, when I started writing down

925
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: all the names of guys that weren't practicing and are

926
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: hurt and everything. I'm thinking of myself, don't anybody get hurt?

927
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: And the last thing you wanted is somebody to get

928
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: hurt in a fight. And I mean like like, for example,

929
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: in Lion's camp, how like two thirds of the roster

930
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: isn't already just banged up and I mean out with injury.

931
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Um. So, by the way, isn't

932
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: it rich when Dan Campbell says he's doing a better

933
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: job this year of keeping his emotions in check. Really,

934
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you just just go through the NFL film's

935
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Twitter feed. Is he really keeping his emotions in check?

936
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: I need to go watch Hard Knocks because I just

937
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: see the clips on Twitter. But there was one clip

938
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: in a meeting room. He had a pair of pants

939
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: and he had them covered in like sand, just to

940
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: have a visual of shaking the sand off the pants.

941
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: It's very creative. I mean, then again, he's having so

942
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: much caffeine and whatever his morning drink was that came

943
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: out a couple months ago. It's like the equivalence of

944
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: however many red bulls every morning? You know what? The

945
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't even like go into the beach in San

946
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Diego because I'm always getting sand out. I would never

947
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: intentionally put sand on any of my clothes and then

948
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: shake it out in the meeting room. It was more

949
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: like two powder or something. It was like baby powders

950
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: whatever that was. Yeah, because it was still a mess.

951
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: It was like a Lebron effect him throwing the powder

952
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: in the air. That's basically what it was. And it's just, um,

953
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: you know the downside to make me watch it. The

954
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: downside is that you don't want to be the team

955
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: following the Lions and Dan Campbell and Hard Knocks. What

956
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: team is following hard Knocks? I don't know. One player

957
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: only weighs one hundred ten pounds, Paul. Would it be

958
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: the better option if Hard Knocks had been following the

959
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals throughout the beginning of training camp up until this point? Goodness? Wow,

960
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: you know you know those producers, by the way, I've

961
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: never seen a group of employees so invested into their

962
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: job as ANFL films. They're good at their jobs, They're

963
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: very good at their jobs. Well, we know a lot

964
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: of them from all or nothing, and you can't tell

965
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: me that they're not archiving all this good footage, all

966
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: these good storylines, sensational, sellacious, and also what he was

967
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: trying to say, it's gonna be all the sound bites.

968
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be all unearthed and rehashed. In episode one,

969
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna do Last Dance esque where it's gonna we're

970
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: gonna play in the present and then you're gonna dial

971
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: it back to then and then playing the present and

972
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: then dial them telling you the first two segments, the

973
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: A and B block of episode one is going to

974
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: be all about all the Cardinals drama in the all season.

975
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: And here's what and there the Kyler press conference is

976
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: going to come back. Everything's gonna call LVC Mustache. It's

977
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: just it's all gonna come back. You should have grown

978
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: out your mustache. You know, there's a couple videographers in

979
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: our department who are purposely growing mustaches because they're saying

980
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: they are in Stashville. I had to flex. Is that

981
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: way they're doing it? I've been weighing Kyle Jeroni. Yes, Kyle,

982
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: I had to show Kyle my stash from the summer vacation.

983
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: This is like six days worth. Oh really, I can't

984
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: grow mustache though, so uh yeah, it's comment. I mean,

985
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: just just get ready for that coverage, um coming back

986
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: through hard Knocks in uh in November. That's just my prediction, okay,

987
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: because that's the way those producers roll, you know, Danny.

988
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: They love that stuff. It's all about the clicks. Oh, absolutely, absolutely,

989
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: So okay, anything else? What else? Uh? You know, nobody, Danny.

990
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: You know, if you weren't going to use y'all after

991
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: growing up in Texas, you're not going to get into

992
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: starting to use y'all now here in Nashville, are you.

993
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: By the end of the week, we haven't heard that

994
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: out of you yet. I'm still surprised, you know, as

995
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: as someone from Texas, you don't use the term y'all.

996
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: I've never heard you say. I feel like I feel

997
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: like every I feel like almost every week out here,

998
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: somebody makes a comment about saying, I guess I'm not

999
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: paying attention too. Oh. You know, as I had some

1000
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: cousins when I was a kid, and they were born

1001
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: and raised in Michigan, and they moved to Austin, and

1002
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: then I saw him at a family or union like

1003
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: six months later, and all three of them were saying

1004
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: y'all every other word. And so I'm like, okay, come

1005
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: on now. That's the thing is usually I don't think

1006
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: I have a very thick accent, and so that's usually

1007
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: when people realize, like, oh, I didn't realize you were

1008
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: from Texas until I heard you just sprinkle in the

1009
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: word y'all. Now, I don't have cowboy boots. I don't

1010
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: have a cowboy hat. I'm not a big country music fan.

1011
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: But he was going to make you get all those things.

1012
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: If he's going to buy them for me, that's fine. No,

1013
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to buy them. Um, but I do say, y'all, well,

1014
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: here's your story, idea, here's your your sideline exchange with

1015
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: Trey McBride. Right our Jim Olmahona asked Tray McBride from

1016
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: small town Colorado about going out buying a cowboy hat

1017
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: and boots. You need to go out shopping. There's another

1018
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: excuse to hit Broadway. You just go out with Tray McBride,

1019
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: hit Broadway. That's what you should. I'm gonna go to Broadway.

1020
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to buy a hat and boots, and then

1021
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna walk right back to the hotel and

1022
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm just stay in my room. I'm not saying one

1023
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: word about Danny, because my story is in Nashville, over

1024
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: our road trips here the few times is we're not

1025
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: going you guys, just wait till the end of the

1026
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: week when you actually will see me wearing my sunglasses indoors.

1027
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Maybe what I'll do is I'll alert the NFL Films

1028
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: producers daring about your sorted past here in Nashville. Maybe

1029
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: that'll come up, and you know, when they can, they

1030
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: can go ahead and they can put the Fits tweet

1031
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: up on the screen as well. That'll be good. So

1032
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: let's hope everybody out of another man's account. Why would

1033
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: you do that because you can, because because Fits can

1034
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: get away with it. That's exactly why. And he recently

1035
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: bought your lunch, so you know what I mean. He

1036
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: came back, he made amends. So there you go. And

1037
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: that is Cardinals Underground from Nashville High Top, the Cardinals

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00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: team Hotel. I'll present him by Pacific Office automation