1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: to check us out live every weekday from four to 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us every 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Let's get this, Putties, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: That is right in for brother. It is the Odd 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: Coober kelvin Washington. Thoseen polonies, as you heard, who is 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: in for Rob. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Rob is on his extended dak traveling across America and 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: letting us all know old and as you know, he's 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna send us the pictures everywhere he goes. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: He does. 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: You talk about somebody who is gonna give you the 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: details of everything that. 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: Stuff from forty years ago. I don't need to see 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: all that. 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell them about the group chat Alex and Roger. 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Trust me, we get it every day. Hey guys, I 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: just found this you just randomly. I was cleaning out. 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 5: We get young eminem Oh, we get we get refrigerator 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 5: pictures with literally wow, nothing in refrigerator And I'm not 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 5: you know how people exaggerated but they got spread, they 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 5: got some jam, they got no I mean nothing in 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 5: the refrigerator. 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: And he pays for cold air and doesn't use it. 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: He is paying for cold air in his refrigerator either way. 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: He's alious and enjoyed. VAKA love you, Rob. Hopefully you're 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: having a great time again. It is the odd couple, 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: and we have a really, really great show. Obviously, we 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: have the draft coming up in about an hour or so, 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: so a lot too when it comes to that's glad 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: to have you here, Olden, because that fits perfectly. We 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: can talk about some of the stuff that's gonna be happening. 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: We got Matt Babcock, former NBA scout, NBA draft analysts 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: and to join us here in a little bit as well. 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: We have Eddie House guess about an hour hour and 39 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: a half or so will have him. And then we 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: shot Phillips Yoda, owner of Prestige Management Group, author of 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: basketball and he played at you with d so looking 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: forward to hearing all of them as well. 43 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: Let's welcome to they couple. Couldn't do the show without him. 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: Rob G producer extraordinaire, looking slim. What was that sound? 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 6: This? 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: He's the goat it's the goats, the goat, Okay, don't 47 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: know that he is the goat of producers. We got 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Alex on the ones and choos over there. 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: What was that one. 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: For, I'm your horsehold in chill listen, joon't asking where 51 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: he is on Mondays Olden, he never hear becomes sons 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: are out, buns is out. 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: We'll leave that alone right there. 54 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: Mantello is gonna be getting you your updates as well. 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: Let's get into it. 56 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Olden obviously didn't call it the Cooper Flag Day because 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: we all know what's gonna happen with that number one pick, 58 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: and then the rest it gets a little tricky. We 59 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen there. Things can move, guys 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: can get traded, and it seems like the Celtics might 61 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: mess around and do something the way this is going 62 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: right now. But interesting couple of conversations around Cooper Flag. 63 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people say he is a chewing number 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: one pick, can't miss. He's gonna be a Hall of Famer, 65 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: He's that type of guy. Others say, man a few 66 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: All Star Games? What is he gonna be? Carmelo Anthony 67 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: on his podcast seven PM and Brooklyn had something to 68 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: say a few weeks back about Cooper Flagg. I thought 69 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: was interesting. I want you to hear this to me. 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything great. He just do a lot 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: of very good. 72 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 73 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 7: He offensive rebound very good. He in the passing lanes 74 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 7: very good. He's a weak side defender, very good on 75 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 7: ball defender. He got a lot better. I want to 76 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 7: see him against you. I want to see him against Kad. 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 7: I want to see him against Luca. I want to 78 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 7: see him against Ann Edwards because you coming in as 79 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 7: that guy. If he gotta develop the right way, he 80 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 7: got to get a skill set. You can't be in 81 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 7: the pros and don't have a skill set. So you 82 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 7: have to have a skill set, like your skill set 83 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 7: have to be something the wonder pull up, like something 84 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 7: float like. You have to have something that's your go 85 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 7: to right now. He don't have a go to, which 86 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 7: is why when they put all of those games at 87 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 7: the end of the game in five seconds and a 88 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 7: lesson the ball is in your hands, you offer in 89 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 7: those situations because you don't have a go to, you 90 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 7: thinking about a million things to do instead of just 91 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 7: I know I'm. 92 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: Getting to this spot. And if you defended more powerwich 93 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: a lot to impact there. Old and I want to 94 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: start with this one. 95 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: If you tell me the guy you named about five 96 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: things in a row and said he's very good, I'm 97 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: okay with that. Considering he's eighteen years old, he's not 98 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: twenty five, then I will have concerns. By now you 99 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: don't have something that you're really that okay, I'm concerned. 100 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: And by your twenty four you're twenty six. 101 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: Okay. 102 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: That will be concerning a kid who turned eighteen during 103 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: the season, who is hungry, who has elite athleticism, who 104 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: I said this yesterday, his best skill set, in my opinion, 105 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: and is the fact that he is going to work 106 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: incredibly hard and play incredibly hard, which sounds well dull, 107 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: everybody does, it's not the case. And a guy who 108 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: constantly wants to get better, and anytime he was supposed 109 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: to show up, well, you're only playing in Maine. 110 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: You ain't playing nobody in Man. Okay. 111 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: Well we'll show me where the other tournament is with 112 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the other players. He goes and he dominates. All right, 113 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: Well you're only doing that because of this, all right, 114 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: have me play with the pros in the USA team. 115 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: Let watch me play very well against him, all right, 116 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: we'll wait till you get to college. Got to the 117 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: college and played well, was the best player on duke 118 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: in most games. 119 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: So to me, each way. 120 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Along along the way, each time he proved where he 121 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: was and why he was that guy. So I look 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: at him as to me, I'm ecstatic if you're telling 123 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: me he's very good at all of these because if 124 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: you go to a team and you know this, sometimes 125 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: I might just need you to be the best rebounder 126 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: for some time because we got a couple scores. 127 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: We don't need you to necessarily get a bucket like that. 128 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: And I look at a guy like a Pascal Siakam 129 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: always dominating in a multitude of ways. Tonight it's fast 130 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: break points tonight. Just get the ball to me five 131 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: seconds on the shock like I'll get a buck You 132 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: don't have to run plays through me. 133 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: And to me, Cooper Flagg has that ability where night 134 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: in night. 135 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Out, he's gonna outwork, he's gonna outplay, elite athleticism, nice 136 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: mint range, and it's only going to get better. I 137 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: like that for the first few years because I can 138 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: plug and play and I can place you here tonight. 139 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: You can do this tonight. 140 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: You can do that while you're still growing into your 141 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: body and still growing. 142 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: Into who you're gonna be in your capability. 143 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: So for me, an eighteen year old, and you're telling 144 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: me very good, very good, very very good, very good, 145 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: I'll take make those things while we continue to get 146 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: him better and find out what he is amazing at. 147 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess with me. With the draft, it's always this, 148 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: you know, there's so much potential, that's the key word 149 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: that they use, and hopes and dreams. We don't know 150 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: what's going to happen. You know, he has a skill set. Yes, 151 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: I get it, but we've seen and I said this 152 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: last year by women Yama. We've seen this movie before. 153 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: I've seen players like him before, so it's nothing to me. 154 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: He's eighteen, so yes, there's room to grow. But at 155 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: the same time, one key play stood out for me 156 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: more than anything that told me a lot about Cooper 157 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 4: Flag and it was the shot he missed in the tournament, 158 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: that turn around, and that said a lot to me 159 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: because he basically kind of like, you know, it's like 160 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: if you're the man, you're the number one draft pick. 161 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: You have to make that shot. In my opinion, you 162 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: have to make that shot and carry your team. And 163 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: again through our college we've seen Shaquille O'Neal didn't win 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: a title. He had Stanley Roberts with him and so 165 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: and make mood was about, I mean Chris Jackson at 166 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: the time, and so you can put up numbers in 167 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: college and everything else, but how is your game going 168 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: to be defined once you get to the NBA. Another 169 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: perfect example was Grady Dick. You know, in college, he's 170 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: killing in college. Everybody's like, oh, he's the next this, 171 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: he's the next that. I think we heard about Grade 172 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: Dick once or twice, and part of it had to 173 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: do with his name, and so to me, it's like, dude, stop. 174 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: The NBA is a totally different animal than when you 175 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: are in high school and in college. Because the same 176 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: people Cooper Flag were watching the highlights that he's dunking 177 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: on at six three now they're seven feet. They Rudy Gober, 178 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: you know, they call Anthony Todde, they Yiannis, they those guys. 179 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: So it's a way different thing. 180 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: But somebody gotta be good holding somebody coming out of college. 181 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: It's always gonna It's always came out and he was good. 182 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 3: Larry Bird, Michael Jordan. Don't disrespect these men. 183 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Also respect that he took the shot. You know what 184 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, some guys, I don't want to get nervous. 185 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: I liked that he took the shot and say, hey, 186 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: saw me. I'm the best player of the team. Everybody 187 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: in the building knows its gonna go to me. I 188 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: missed the shot. It's okay. I can live from that. 189 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I can grow from that. Kobe Bryant shooting airballs in 190 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: the NBA in the playoffs with the Utah Jazz airballar 191 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: and kept going and became Now when people think of clutch, 192 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Lebron ain't clutch, Kobe's clutch. Now he became the embodiment 193 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: of clutch. So to me, I don't mind if the 194 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: young man took that missed it. I've taken on the 195 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: chin and let's keep moving. And I just think, to me, 196 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: I see a lot of people come in with hype, 197 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: especially nowadays, because they come in with miss but mixtapees 198 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: at thirteen. Oh, they look at his kve and I 199 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: liked that he came in and he kept working. He 200 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: came in and he kept going we don't hear any issues, 201 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: we don't hear any drama. He's not trying to worry 202 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: about this, not worried about that. All he cares about 203 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: is hoop and getting better in his team. And to me, 204 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: I like that. And you mentioned it looks it's a 205 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: crap shoot in any sport, right, everybody tells us this 206 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: number one quarterback would be the next damn marine or 207 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: next and then we don't ever hear from again. So 208 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: it is Ryan Lee, Ryan leif you ain't learning about that, 209 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: so to me. But at least I look at him 210 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: as unlike Carmelo Anthony who said he has to have 211 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: a thing. 212 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: I like the very good at multiple things. 213 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Because if you have a thing and the thing ain't 214 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: working no more, then now to me, you're not doing anything. 215 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: If Ben Simmons came in. 216 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: Oh he's a great point guard, he's a good pass, well, 217 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: he ain't really doing that no more. And you forgot 218 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons within the NBA, Martelle Folts, he forgot how 219 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: to shoot a shot. 220 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: Wein't heard from him since. Yeah, And that's what I'm saying. 221 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: So it is a crap shoot, this whole thing. And 222 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: one of the things I was talking about yesterday with 223 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: my son, was this, Can you imagine if Adam Silva 224 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 4: gets up there and he said, with the number one pick, 225 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: the Dallas Mavericks select and they named somebody else like 226 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: the movie Draft Day. 227 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: Man, the whole where everybody, I don't know Vegas will 228 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: be happy or sad. 229 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: So and I say that to say this. We know 230 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: he's consensus number one, and I get it, but there's 231 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: a lot of pressure that comes with that. Fine, you 232 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: mentioned Markel Fultz and Ben Simmons. These guys don't work hard. Okay, 233 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. I'm not knocking Cooper flag. 234 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm just saying I have to wait and see. I 235 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: can't that for everybody meeting. 236 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: It was everybody. 237 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: I've said it for Polo, I've said it for Anthony Adawards, 238 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: I've said it for Webin Yama. I because I try 239 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,119 Speaker 4: to be as objective as possible. I'm not looking for clickbait. 240 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm giving you the real deal. I can't do the 241 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: coronation of someone that hasn't even touched the basketball in 242 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: the NBA. I just can't do it. So I'm not 243 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: willing to do it. 244 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: But if you're a general manager polonies and we need you. 245 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's part of the job. I gotta grab somebody, like, 246 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: how are you then viewing? Because if I have to 247 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: pick somebodast on my team needs and. 248 00:10:59,320 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: That's to me. 249 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit yesterday. Why I 250 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: like Cooper Flag because he can fill some other holes. 251 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: If I need somebody like right now, to me, j 252 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: edge Combe, to me, I think that's a better player. 253 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: I think he has a longer shelf life. Also, the 254 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 4: kid no not Bairey fears fear. 255 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like him. That's what I was just telling 256 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: rob Giebo. 257 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: I'm telling you there's there's guys and then there's always 258 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: gonna be that the diamond and the rough guy that's 259 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: hidden somewhere, because we've had a ton of those over 260 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: the years. So those are the guys I'm looking for. Yeah, 261 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my due diligence, and I'm not saying 262 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: that I'm I wouldn't take Cooper Flag, you know, but 263 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: based on the question, it's like, hey, I have to 264 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: wait and see, but he's gonna be good, you know, 265 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: based on his work ethic. But again, I always asked 266 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: this question like you mentioned Markael Fulls and Ben Simmons. 267 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: Is he gonna be a Ben Simmons that gets paid 268 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I don't need to work 269 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: no more? No, you know it was he gonna be 270 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 4: that guy. Okay, I don't think someone he's got an upside. 271 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I think I think some of these guys, and I've 272 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: been saying this for you, I haven't quite said as 273 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: much since I've been on this show. I think a 274 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of these guys looked up. Pops played, right, yeah, 275 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta pay play. You know, Pops played 276 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: overseas and be and Ben Simmons played. You're just like, 277 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: all right, I'm playing and the boom you're six two 278 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: in sixth grade. Everybody's like, oh, we see it now, 279 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: we see it. And I think they do love the game. 280 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: But I think at a certain point they don't love 281 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: the game enough to your point what it takes to 282 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: be a pro pro pro. And that's when I'm hurting. 283 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: When I'm not a little little Kim has a recital. 284 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: I can't go you know things, those decisions you have 285 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: to make. Come on, babe. I thought we were going 286 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: to Turks and Kko's turks and no, no, I can't. 287 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: I gotta go to the jumper. The things that it 288 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: takes Manzi Huss, the things that it takes to be 289 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: a pro, as you know, is on another level. And 290 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of guys are really 291 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: committed to that as much. I gotta look at Andrew Bindham. 292 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I think he was walking around seven foot and everybody's like, 293 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: you gotta whop. 294 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: He's like, I got a hoop. 295 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: And I just think I do think there's a contingency 296 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: of kids who and they talk about this all the time. 297 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: American kids burn out in sports more than anybody else 298 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: because we're making them specialize at three, not as if 299 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: other countries don't, but we're like, all right, five years old, 300 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: you can only play tennis. You're going to be a 301 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: tennis player. And they get sixteen, they're burned out and 302 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: I want to play a little soccer. My friends, my 303 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: friends are hooping. I wanted to play football, And they've 304 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: done a study on this. This would be my last point quickly. 305 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: HBO Real Sports didn't think some years ago, and I 306 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: want to say was Sweden, but it was a small 307 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: European country that's not supposed to be winning all these 308 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: medals during the Olympics, and all of a sudden, they 309 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: just each year, every four years, every Olympic, to keep 310 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: medalingtle more. Why is this country? And a lot of 311 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: folks sent people to go study them. What they found was, 312 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: they said, oh, y'all specifically talking about some Americans. Oh, 313 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: y'all got kids who specialize in at five. We don't 314 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: even let our kids specialize who eight ninth grade? They 315 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: have to play everything. They said, we let them play everything. 316 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: You can't play if practice is an hour, that's it. 317 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: We don't make them. They didn't have to do four hours. 318 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: And they said what we is they're healthier, they last longer, 319 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: they're not burned out because they come to you at 320 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: fourteen they say, all right, this is what I want 321 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: to do, and they lock in and they love it. 322 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: They love the joy of it. The work ethic is there. 323 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: And they said, we found so many y'alls. And I 324 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: started thinking about this. I'll say this all the time 325 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: on this show. Look at how many number one picks, 326 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: two number top five picks and the NBA end up 327 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: being hurt Linzo Ball, LaMelo Ball, Zion, joelmb All. These 328 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: got to be my point, they get back because they've 329 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: been playing nothing but basketball since they were three. 330 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: That's it. Nor to say two thousand AU games. It's ridiculous. 331 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: I remember playing AU from Riverside Church. We travel like 332 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: pick Phoenix. We go to Phoenix for a tournament. We 333 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: get that Thursday, we play, Friday, we win, we play Saturday, 334 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: we win, we play Sunday, semi finals, and we play 335 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: the finals. 336 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: That's it. Go home. That's one day. That's it. Now 337 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: they're doing four games a day. It's too much. 338 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: They get in on Thursday, they play Thursday night. Team dreams. 339 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: They played Thursday night. We would land and we would 340 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: have a game at eight thirty. They're played. They're doing 341 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: way too so it's crazy. It's crazy to me whose 342 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: phone is at So there's just too many games. And 343 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: now they're trying to say, oh, it's because the NBA 344 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: season that these guys are having Achilles tears. No, it's 345 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: to your point, specialized training. They're all using the same trainers, 346 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: same crappy dudes that work for these agents. Okay, they 347 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: do the same exact stuff, and they wonder, like I'm 348 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: looking right now with Lillard on the ground, pull see 349 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: they talking about everybody's talking about the achilles we played. 350 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: I remember playing converse. The old dudes wore canvas conver 351 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: They did eighty two games flying commercial middle seat, five 352 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: AM flights, six AM flights. Nobody tore their achilles. We 353 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: went fifty years with maybe five achilles. Said like when 354 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: Dominique got it, I think he was like the first one, 355 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, now Achilles is happening 356 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: five a year. 357 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: I tell people, your body ain't got but that many 358 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: jumps in it, and you're using them up playing through 359 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: your right high school team, AAU team, this team, a 360 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: trivel team, other team, my training team, and it's like, dude, 361 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: you're wasting some of your latter years right now? 362 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: All right? 363 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. You want to 364 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: get in on this Cooper Flag to keep saying. Some 365 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: folks say it's great that he doesn't have a particular 366 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: skill set. Carmelo says that's a bad thing, that he 367 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything, that he's elite. Eight Where do you 368 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: come off when you watch Cooper Flag? Eight seven seven 369 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine on Fox? Also, is you gonna land in 370 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the right spot? 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We're talking about Cooper Flag about thirty five 387 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: minutes or so, give or take, his life is gonna change. 388 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: He'll be the number one pick in the NBA draft, which, 389 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it will blow everybody's mind. If all 390 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden he wouldn't number one. Ace Bailey were 391 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Internet would explode. We'd have to scrap our whole show. 392 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Jay edge Cone, we'd have to be there. The whole 393 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: thing would change, The whole show would change. But we're 394 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: talking about him in that. Camarlo Anthony a few weeks 395 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: back in the podcast on his podcast said he believes 396 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't do anything great or excellent and that that 397 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: could be problematic. He needs to find kind of find 398 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: that thing we had Brian Scalabrin. He talk about the 399 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: fact that that's what makes some great is that he 400 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: does a multitude of things. A seven seven ninety nine 401 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: on Fox taking a couple calls on this as well. 402 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to Drew and New Jersey. Drew, you're on 403 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: with the ot couple of Fox Sports Radio. 404 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I think that he's like a Jason Tatum. 405 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 8: But I have a question for old and So I 406 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 8: was watching, Uh Sports Secretary is on len Bias. I 407 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 8: saw that you played against him. 408 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 9: The one thing I hear is he. 409 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 8: He could have been him and Mike in the acc 410 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 8: where neck and neck. What do you think he would 411 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 8: have been in the NBA had he got tied. 412 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 4: Uh, First of all, it would not have been neck 413 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: and neck. He was above like heads and shoulders above 414 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 4: Mike and that's the guy's honest true six eight. He 415 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: was basically the best way to describe it, he was 416 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: Lebron before Lebron, he was. He was a physical specimen. 417 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: He was he would have dominated, and he was going 418 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: to the Celtics. Oh yeah, that's the crazy part. Playing 419 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: with Bird it was it would have been insane. 420 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: Red Arabucks somehow continuously was getting making moves. Okay, you 421 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: get Bird, but then you get uh, Michale and Parish 422 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: and the same see Okay, then you get this, oh 423 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: and then you get Limby's but he passed that, okay, 424 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and then we get Reggie Lewis. I mean they were 425 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: just he was pulling move for like obviously for decades. 426 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: But that that the. 427 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Eighties and early nineties run was incredible. Let's go to 428 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Antonio and Miami. Antonio, you're on with theat couple of 429 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 430 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 6: Hey guys, real quick, just real quick to Olden. I 431 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 6: just wanted to let her or know he showed up. 432 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 6: This is a long time ago nineteen through it with 433 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 6: Detroit nineteen ninety three four. But it was a Buddies pizzeria. 434 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 6: I believe it was twelve and twelve and Vandyke and Warren, 435 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 6: but he was. You were very gracious you signed my 436 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: weedies box. I might have been ten years old. I 437 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 6: don't know, but I just want to thank you for that. 438 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: Oh you will and. 439 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 6: What it calls to the flag. I think he's gonna 440 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: fall somewhere in the middle. I want to know if 441 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 6: he can play on the ground, because his game, I 442 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 6: could easily see him. I mean, hopefully nothing serious, but 443 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: I could see him getting hurt, maybe like a Marry Johnson. 444 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 6: And you know, I don't know if he can play 445 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 6: on the ground, But I think Olden was right about 446 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 6: that assessment and how we handled the end, and don't 447 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 6: I don't care if he's sixteen, eighteen, twenty two. Eventually 448 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 6: we're going to see the cut version of him in 449 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 6: terms of like the refined version of him in four 450 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: or five years. Sadly we got to wait this long. 451 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 6: But I don't think you know, he's going to come 452 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 6: in and I think he's going to help the team. 453 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 6: He's gonna help Dallas here and there. But I don't 454 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 6: think it's anything to get giddy about. 455 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: Well, we'll see that's not at all, and that you 456 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: know what's so funny about that? To call the funny 457 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: thing is this, Only one guy's ever come in ready 458 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: to go at eighteen, and that's Lebron James. Physically, he 459 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 4: was a specimen. He was ready to play NBA basketball, 460 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: But everybody else took time. Kobe struggled, Gonnet struggled, Germaine 461 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: O'Neil struggled. They all struggled, all of them. Everybody has 462 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 4: struggles at eighteen and nineteen. So what's just He's it's 463 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: gonna be the same. He's gonna struggle. And if you're 464 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 4: not big and strong, it's the NBA becomes a lot harder. 465 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 4: Lebron probably could have played a junior in high school. 466 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: Lebron was forty in high school. 467 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: The best part about it is I can't say you're 468 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: wrong him and Greg Old and I'm convinced we don't 469 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: have BURSTA tickets. 470 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to see birth certificates, man, I want 471 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 4: to see bone density. 472 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: Right especially nowadays with AI, we can make up some 473 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: great versat tickets for sure. All Right On the other side, 474 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: Matt Babcock form NBA Scout, NBA Draft analyst for Babcock 475 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Hoops talk some more of draft with him and just 476 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: admit Montye Blanios right now, she's locked in. 477 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: She just put her headphones on. She ready for you. Yeah, 478 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: ready to go. 479 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 480 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 481 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 482 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: listen live. 483 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: A couple kelvin Washington, Olden Polonies on a worship Wednesday. 484 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: We got Olden in for Rob Rob Gone on VAK. 485 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: Right now we are joined by Matt Babcock, former NBA scout, 486 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: NBA Draft analyst for Babcock who's you can follow him 487 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: on x Matt Babcock eleven. 488 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: Matt, what's going on? How you feeling? 489 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 490 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: Feeling great? 491 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 9: We we got a lot of actions behind the scenes 492 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 9: right now, but it's it's almost go time. 493 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, what okay? Give me? 494 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: Even if it's point zero zero zero zero and a 495 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: million zeros, that we get to one chance that Cooper 496 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Flag all of a sudden, randomly something happens. He's not 497 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: the number one pick. What are the possibility is that? 498 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: Is that absolutely not happening? 499 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of crazy rumors flying that 500 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 9: that is certainly not one of them. I think if 501 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 9: you're if you're betting man that that's probably the one 502 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 9: safe bet you have tonight. 503 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: All right, Olden, Olden and Manzi keep bringing that body 504 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: and maybe there's you know, something crazy can happen and 505 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I changed our whole night. Well, obviously he's gonna be 506 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: the number one pick there, So when you're looking at him, 507 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: you think the mass view him as a star immediately, 508 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: a guy that he can just kind of slowly roll 509 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: in because they have they have Anthony Davis, or are 510 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: they expecting big things from him from the jump. 511 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 9: I think one thing that's interesting with Cooper for being 512 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 9: such a high rated prospect, He's not your typical sort 513 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 9: of like go to score. He's more of just like 514 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 9: a well rounded prospect that does a little bit of everything. 515 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 9: I actually think his biggest impact right off the bat 516 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 9: is probably gonna be on the defensive end of just 517 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 9: being so switchable and uh, you know when one underrated 518 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 9: skill civity. He just plays so dang hard. I mean 519 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 9: every single second of every single possession. So but I 520 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 9: think with with that skill set takes a little little 521 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 9: bit of pressure on him because I don't see him 522 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 9: being a guy where a ton of players are going 523 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 9: to be needed to be run for him. 524 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 4: Hey, Matt, how you doing old in here? So I 525 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: got to ask this question, man, because, and it's maybe 526 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: a little obvious, what is it about, you know, the 527 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: potential aspect of the NBA draft that you know, we 528 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: make decisions and guys have picked but they don't pan out. 529 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: Is anything you can like maybe put your finger on say, Okay, 530 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: it's because of this, It's because of that. 531 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the biggest thing. And things have changed 532 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 9: quite a bit within il and then all that of 533 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 9: guys going back to school. The one thing that stays 534 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 9: the same is if you look at our lottery, our 535 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 9: projected lottery, it's all a bunch of one and done guys. 536 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 9: These guys are all eighteen nineteen years old. And so 537 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 9: for NBA scouts and guys like myself were identifying who 538 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 9: has talent, who has the potential. But as you know, 539 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 9: I mean, you know, it takes time and it takes 540 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 9: a lot of focus and discipline to actually you have 541 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 9: a guy reached his potential so that there's always going 542 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 9: to be some riskit with guys at this age. 543 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm looking at this, I want to ask you about 544 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: Ace Bailey. 545 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: There's been a lot about made about his agent and 546 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: how they're doing things, and is he taking on purpose 547 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: so he can land where he can be the guy 548 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: versus being a guy on a team. What do you 549 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: make of just the last few weeks from him and 550 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: skipping out on visits. Do you maybe like to move 551 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: low key to get where you want to go? Or 552 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: is this kind of crazy? 553 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 9: You know, I mean it's been done before. I think 554 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 9: that the one thing that's really kind of put a 555 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 9: magnifying glass is he's with us smaller agencies. I think 556 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 9: they have a target on their back from that standpoint. 557 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: You know, they. 558 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 9: Obviously have a destination or multiple destinations outside of those 559 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 9: for a few picks, and they're trying to manipulate it. 560 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 9: And this has been this is a tactic that's been 561 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 9: done by agents for years. So I really don't have 562 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 9: a problem with that too much. And honestly, I don't 563 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 9: think he slips a ton. I think there are a 564 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 9: number of teams looking to move up there to get him. 565 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand that he's it's a weird thing 566 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: that he said he's not working out with anybody at all, 567 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: But My question to you is this, and it it 568 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 4: goes back to the first question and to your answer 569 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 4: by nil, because this year is the lowest number of 570 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: draft eligible players one hundred and six, and the year 571 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: before it was like three point fifty three. So my point, 572 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: my question to you is this, is this the new 573 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: trend for us right now? 574 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 6: Oh? 575 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 9: Absolutely, I think for for second round picks. I mean, 576 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 9: as it stands now, Uh, it's too risky for these 577 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 9: guys that enter the draft, and uh you have to 578 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 9: fully negotiate their contract when they've got multiple millions of 579 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 9: dollars on the table for them to return to school. Uh. 580 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 9: And so yeah, I think this is a trend what 581 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 9: we'll be seeing moving forward. 582 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 583 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 9: The one thing though, is keep in mind at a 584 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 9: certain point, Uh, the cycle is going to catch up, 585 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 9: and we're gonna have a number of players, uh that 586 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 9: that that have a lot of talent, that have exhausted 587 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 9: all of their college eligibility and so you know, maybe 588 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 9: a few years from now, we're gonna have a very 589 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 9: deep draft. 590 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: All Right. 591 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: We have Matt Babcock, former NBA scout NBA draft analysts 592 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: for Babcock Hoops on with the odd couple Olden in 593 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: for Rob kelvin Washington. Let me ask you this, Uh, 594 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: we're looking at a draft right now where we kind 595 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: of have some really good players, some good talent up front. 596 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: But other side of that, as you know, is teams 597 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: making some moves maneuver and draft, maybe trading players, current 598 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: players or maybe wanting to move and move back in draft. 599 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 3: What are you thinking right now? 600 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: Are you hearing any rumors right now who might jump 601 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: in this draft, who maybe is lower but wants to 602 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: jump up, or somebody who wants to jump back. 603 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 9: You know, I've been doing this for a long time 604 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 9: and there's always rumors. This this year feels very extra. 605 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 9: And I just did my my final mock draft, you know, 606 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 9: projecting the picks, and it's sort of the analysis of 607 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 9: each pick is that, hey, this this pick can be 608 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 9: on the move, and so I think I'm prepared for 609 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 9: it to be a very wild night. I'm probably gonna 610 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 9: rip up my mock draft quickly into into the draft. It's, uh, 611 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 9: you know, it just it feels like there are so 612 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 9: many different potential moves and it starts really as high 613 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 9: as number three with Philly. I mean, I think if 614 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 9: they stay stampats I expect them to take VJ. Edgecombe, 615 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 9: but they can move that pick, and it's kind of 616 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 9: the same storyline for every pick there on out. 617 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: So, Matt, do you think a lot of this? 618 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: And you're right, I mean, I'm hearing Jalen Brown is 619 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 4: about to be on move because Boston is definitely saying 620 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 4: we they getting ready for the new ownership. They're not 621 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: leaving all this money on the books for them. So 622 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: is it so because of this apron first ape and 623 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: second apron? Do you think that's what's going to cause 624 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: more action in this year's draft? 625 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 9: You know, I think it's a combination of that, you know, 626 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 9: of some some veteran guys being on the table, but 627 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 9: then also just be the Bailey's stuff is really throwing 628 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 9: things off as well, you know, or you know, teams 629 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 9: know who they want to, you know, have their priority 630 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 9: list sets. Now they're just trying to figure out, you know, 631 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 9: how do we navigate this and get guys at the 632 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 9: right spots. And I think there's just a lot of 633 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 9: movers and shakers right now. 634 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: And who's going to be the winner of the draft 635 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: of your mind? Is it simply the Mavericks because you 636 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: get rid of Luca fan base hate you. Now you 637 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: get Cooper Flagg and kind of go at least we 638 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: got somebody, and maybe we can get some fans back. 639 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you can kind of predict? Who 640 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: could be the winner if they land this player? 641 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 9: You know, I mean I think that. I mean Dallas 642 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 9: for sure, I mean, get getting the top prospect. I 643 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 9: mean that's just a huge home run. I mean Santonio, 644 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 9: I mean these are sort of obvious answers. Button getting 645 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 9: second pick and likely taking Dylan Harper. Uh, even though 646 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 9: I don't see him as a you know, a seamless 647 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 9: fit with what they have in place already, but considering 648 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 9: that they're still in rebuild mode, it just gives them 649 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 9: another really talented young player as they look to build 650 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 9: this roster while Wemby moving forward. 651 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: Okay, Matt, I'm a big conspiracy guy, So I'm gonna 652 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: put it on you. 653 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: You know, you grew up. 654 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: You grew up in a basketball household, your dad, your 655 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: two uncles, everybody. You You're a basketball ahead. Dallas getting 656 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: with a Luca and then getting the number one pick. 657 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: What conspiracy? 658 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 6: No, I know I know where this is going. 659 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 9: I don't want to get blackball there. 660 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: What'd you say, frozen frozen envelopes? What do you say, I'm. 661 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 9: Gonna I'm gonna plead the fifth? 662 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you pleaded that fifth. Uh yeah, all right, 663 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: well we'll let it slide there, Matt. Appreciate your mad 664 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Babcock for NBA. Scott makes sure you give a follow 665 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Matt Babcock eleven and check out the Babcock hoops as well. 666 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: Appreciate your maybe map. There's been some moments. 667 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: There was this little I don't know if you know, 668 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: there's this kid coming out of Akron, I don't know 669 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: if you ever heard of him, and Cleveland just happens 670 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: to get the number one pick. 671 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: He plays thirty forty minutes away, but not James. 672 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah that dude, Yeah yeah, there was James. Is that 673 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: as possible? And make sure you know, oh oh oh oh, 674 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Chicago has. 675 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: The number one pick. They've been suffering since Jordan. There's 676 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: this kid. 677 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: We go to the original conspiracy, the Knicks, the Frozen 678 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: Come on, man, the Knicks going again. 679 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: There's this kid coming out of Georgetown. 680 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: We got Cleveland number one, not the Lebron draft. All 681 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: that stuff happened. Yeah, y'all missing Lebron here you go. 682 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: There's about six seven instances we're all right, yeah, come on. 683 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm good. Yeah. But I like this answer. But he 684 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: gave basically answer to that. For me, sometimes a non 685 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: answer is an answer, you know, plead the fifth. All right, 686 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: we got play other day on the way. 687 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: Plus, I want to ask Old in my theory of 688 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: how a trade has happened and made this team maybe 689 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the second best team in their conference. 690 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: I tell you what we're talking about. It's the odd Couple. 691 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 692 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 693 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 694 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 695 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: listen live. 696 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. It is the Odd Couple. 697 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Kelvin Washington, Olden Polynese here for Robin at worship Wednesday. 698 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate you playing with us, hanging with us into little 699 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin. Did you hear Chris Kevin Hart joking him 700 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: at the BT Awards. 701 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: You hear that. 702 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: They couldn't air it on TV, but it's behind basically, 703 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: just stop dancing the way you dancing for Genus by 704 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin or something something like that. Can't keep you know, throwing. 705 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: You know, you can't do something. Dance with Jesus is 706 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: actually funny. All right, we'll get to play a day 707 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: in just a second. I want to throw this at 708 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: you here now that Kevin Durant is a rocket. And 709 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: then for weeks I had said to me that was 710 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: the perfect fit. I just thought what they sometimes in life, 711 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: it's just sitting there, there's a puzzle piece and you're 712 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: a puzzle and you're missing a piece. 713 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: Man, where's the piece? 714 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 6: There? 715 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: It is? It fits perfectly. I thought that was Kevin 716 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: Durant there. 717 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: They have all the athleticism, they have, all the defense, 718 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: all the hustle, all those types of guys. They got 719 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: the post presence with Shongoon, they got the kind of 720 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: veteran floor leader guy who's gonna make big shots at 721 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: Frevan Vliet, so on and so forth. But like man, 722 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: they just need a bucket getter. They need a guy 723 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: who can get eight straight. They need a guy can 724 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: close the game. And Kevin Durant fits perfectly. Kevin Durant 725 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: is not a guy you can come say, change our team. 726 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: He's not that. He's just a hitman for hire. 727 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm coming in, I'm putting in twenty five at night, 728 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: shooting fifty percent forty from three ninety for free throw. 729 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: What more do you want for me? This is what 730 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: I do, and I thought it fit perfectly. Booming happens, 731 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: and now I'm starting to look at it as things 732 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: are changing. We're starting to see people move in and 733 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference. We don't know when Kyle he's 734 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna be BacT so I think Dallas is gonna be, 735 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, not quite there. 736 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: We don't know if the Lakers are gonna make a move. 737 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: They don't. 738 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they have enough with just what they 739 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: have right now. The Warriors, I don't think they have enough. 740 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: They're only gonna get older. Jimmy Butler and Stephen Draymond. 741 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: I think the Rockets have positioned themselves where they can 742 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: look at the Thunder and say, hey, you know, why 743 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: not us? 744 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: And fine, maybe you. 745 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: Win sixty four games, you're the one seed, but we're 746 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: right there winning fifty eight, fifty nine. 747 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: I think the Rockets to me, just jumped above a 748 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: couple of people. They jumped. I think they jumped above 749 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: the Nuggets. 750 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I think they jumped above Minnesota As far as to me, 751 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at them as the second best team right 752 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: now in the Western Conference with KD mixed in with 753 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: you still got I mentioned frev Evliet, you still got Shangoon, 754 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: You still got im and Thompson, who is just I 755 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: think gonna be insane in a couple of years. 756 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: So and a great coach. Am I wrong? 757 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: You're not wrong, but you're not right because my high 758 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: school test this other thing, right, there's other things that 759 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: going to play k doub. Kevin Durant is pretty much 760 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: set in his ways. Like you said, he's a high 761 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 4: gun right now, but he's still Kevin Durant. He still 762 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: has that mentality that I'm like, one of the best ever. 763 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: Perfect example is what happened with OKC. Those guys they 764 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 4: get along, you know what I mean? Yeah almost much, Yeah, 765 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: almost too much. But it's a perfect storm of guys 766 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 4: just getting along, sacrificing for one another. It's Durant willing 767 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: to sacrifice. Is he gonna be okay when Van Fleet 768 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: shoots the three or if Amon does something, or if 769 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: you know, Tabari shoots instead of him? So I don't know, 770 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 4: because he's, you know what, year eighteen. A lot of 771 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 4: these guys, That's why I say like a Paul George 772 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 4: and Kawhile they set in their ways. The game if 773 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 4: you haven't noticed, the game is becoming a big college. 774 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: I've been say one hundred percent of the thunder or 775 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: college fraternity teams. 776 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: It shifted, you know. And I don't want to use AAU, 777 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: but I'll say a big college. And so that's where 778 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: we're at right now. The camaraderie, you know, the friendships 779 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: and all of that, Yeah, that's gonna come into play. 780 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 4: And so the veterans that are setting their ways, they're 781 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: gonna make it difficult because I think KD and it 782 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 4: I don't believe. I don't know what the dynamic. I 783 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 4: know that they quote unquote got along at some point. 784 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what it's going to be now with 785 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 4: KD and Udoka you know, as his coach. So it's 786 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: gonna be stuff like that that I'm gonna watch for 787 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: early on the first road trip will tell me a 788 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: lot about Houston. 789 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I think being a great coach who also kind of 790 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: sets the tone. Sometimes you need your leader to be 791 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: the best player. I think in this case, your leader 792 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: is going to be frev evliet Emai Adoka. You kind 793 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: of have it in different places, because I don't think 794 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: at this point any of us look at Kevin Durant 795 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere ever went where he was the leader. 796 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: It might have been the best player, a might have 797 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: been this, but he wasn't the leader at all in 798 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: my opinion. So I but I like what I like 799 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: with men. I'm and Thompson only gets better. You mentioned 800 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Jamarsmith Junior only getting better hitting shots and uh, and 801 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: some other pieces they still have on Easton. 802 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 6: Uh. 803 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: They gotta I like what they're doing. And you mentioned 804 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: the college too. You better have some depth in the NBA. Now, 805 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: just a guy to guy Luke and Lebron. You're gonna 806 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: need five, six to seven other guys. 807 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 4: You need a bunch of players. You need players. You 808 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: can't have two people and think you're gonna beat eleven. 809 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: Nope, it's a different it's a different day than you know, 810 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: maybe the twenty tens where you can kind of have 811 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: that one guy on the bench and we could be 812 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: all right. 813 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the tire rack play of 814 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 3: the day. 815 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 10: And this one driven the left and deep, this Paul 816 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 10: heading back and it's gone a home run. Per Oltani 817 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 10: an opposite field shot home run number twenty seven, and 818 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 10: it is showtime here in Lodo. 819 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if you knew this, but Shoe hal 820 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 3: Tani is good at baseball. You know what I heard? 821 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: He's okay. You know I've seen him a couple so no, 822 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: I don't know you heard. 823 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: He's all right. Oh my god, I got a great 824 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 4: show here. Tiny story. 825 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: Oh hold on, you gott tell me. I gotta tell 826 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: you about tire Rack. But then I want to hear 827 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: that I'm tire rack. 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It is the way tire buying should be. 835 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: That was, of course, Dodger Radio there a and five seventy. 836 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: All right, so here's what we're gonna do, because I 837 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: want to hear this show hay story. So on the 838 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: other side, all we's gonna tell us this show hay story. 839 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: Plus we're gonna talk about the depth of the NBA. 840 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: We were just discussing that why to me, tonight is 841 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: big for teams in a different way, and I'll explain 842 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: what that is. 843 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: This The Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio